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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MarquetteMike1977 on November 11, 2022, 12:38:08 PM

Title: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on November 11, 2022, 12:38:08 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 8, 2022
•   After beating Radford 79-69 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 15-15 (8-12 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are down to 23%, a decrease of 5% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #77 team in the country, and the #8 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Thu, Nov 10 vs. #319 Central Mich. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 94% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 23%   
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 3%   
Projected Seed if selected 10
•   Marquette probably won't get an at-large bid to the NCAA tournament, although they have an outside shot.
•   As for an automatic bid ... Marquette has a 3% chance to win the conference tournament. The outlook is bleak, but stranger things have happened.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 3% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen, but essentially no chance to reach the Final Four.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on November 11, 2022, 12:39:42 PM
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Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 11, 2022
•   After beating Central Mich 97-73 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 15-15 (9-11 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 27%, an increase of 4% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #65 team in the country, and the #8 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Tue, Nov 15 at #21 Purdue. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 22% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 27%   
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 3%   
Projected Seed if Selected 10
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 11, 2022, 12:44:02 PM
Not quite sure where this info is coming from, but I would imagine a win at Purdue would alter their data significantly.

Tough to read into any projections like this early in a season with so many unknowns, but it will be interesting to see how this changes from week to week based on single game results.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: NCMUFan on November 11, 2022, 02:21:32 PM
A wise old man named Kolek once said "F-em"
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 14, 2022, 08:46:19 AM
Marquette shows up in Jon Rothsteins Top 45, at 45.

"45. Marquette: This feels like one of Shaka Smart’s teams from VCU."
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on November 14, 2022, 10:18:08 AM
Marquette shows up in Jon Rothsteins Top 45, at 45.

"45. Marquette: This feels like one of Shaka Smart’s teams from VCU."
Going to FF
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: jfp61 on November 14, 2022, 10:34:03 AM
Going to FF

1/6 chance. 1/3 out in round 1. 1/3 out in R of 32. 1/6 chance not to make the tourney.

MATH
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: tower912 on November 14, 2022, 11:04:14 AM
Marquette shows up in Jon Rothsteins Top 45, at 45.

"45. Marquette: This feels like one of Shaka Smart’s teams from VCU."
Hopefully the one that won tourney games.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 14, 2022, 01:23:13 PM
KenPom says tomorrow will be an ugly day for MUBB, as does Haslametrics.

Marquette also 1-9 against Purdue All Time.  Road games can be impossible. Marquette will likely be an underdog in Vegas as well.

All of that to say..."F*** em." -Tyler Kolek
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 14, 2022, 01:39:30 PM
Going to FF

Fiserv Forum?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 14, 2022, 01:46:12 PM
KenPom says tomorrow will be an ugly day for MUBB, as does Haslametrics.

Marquette also 1-9 against Purdue All Time.  Road games can be impossible. Marquette will likely be an underdog in Vegas as well.

All of that to say..."F*** em." -Tyler Kolek

Classic slow vs. fast tempo matchup. If MU can jump on them early and make Purdue play from behind, we have a chance. A game of attrition would be bad news for MU.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on November 14, 2022, 01:59:01 PM
Fiserv Forum?
That is FIFO. If we're VCU final 4 all the way.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: mubb3434 on November 14, 2022, 02:02:19 PM
Classic slow vs. fast tempo matchup. If MU can jump on them early and make Purdue play from behind, we have a chance. A game of attrition would be bad news for MU.

Speed them up, get Edey uncomfortable, and hit some shots. Let's go!
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MuggsyB on November 14, 2022, 02:26:55 PM
Purdue
is
very
beatable.

Listen to the Scoopers who have written about tempo and not getting cheap fouls on Edey. Obviously it will be a challenge but we're not playing the Bucks.  Control tempo, collective rebound, speed them up, force sone turns, get the three ball cooking and attack them all over the floor. 
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: panda on November 14, 2022, 02:35:36 PM
Purdue is 97-11 at Mackey in its last 108 games. Unstoppable big against the lack of our interior and competent guards. Not getting my hopes up.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Jay Bee on November 14, 2022, 02:37:41 PM
Last time they lost a home non conf game was to Shaka. The following game they lost at MU (to Wojo no less!)
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Elonsmusk on November 14, 2022, 02:38:26 PM
I believe we can (and will) beat Purdue.  Edey will be a one-man wrecking crew for them, but they have young guards and I think our guards/O-Max will give them trouble.  The best way we can slow Edey is to apply intense ball pressure on their guards and make it difficult for them to make quality post-entry passes.

I think we go 10 deep tomorrow night and see a lot of Chase Ross, Sean Jones, and Stevie rotating onto their guards.  The road game factor is the part that gives me pause on a victory, yet I think we pull an upset.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: tower912 on November 14, 2022, 03:01:31 PM
We agree on the way MU is going to have to play.   I hope Wrightsil is healthy.    And I think MU needs all 11.       
Speed them up, pressure the guards.    When Edey gets the ball under the basket, let him score.    Don't pointlessly foul him in a vain attempt to stop a dunk.  Stay out of foul trouble.     Front him.    Use athleticism and jumping ability to disrupt lob passes to him.  Hope MU can make it rain from 3.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 14, 2022, 03:29:26 PM
This is a huge loss.  Keep it within 30
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on November 14, 2022, 03:50:50 PM
This is a huge loss.  Keep it within 30
I'll be happy if 20 pt loss
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: WhiteTrash on November 14, 2022, 04:22:01 PM
I'll be happy if 20 pt loss
I'd bet on a 20 point loss

I'd be happy with a 10 point loss
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: BrewCity83 on November 14, 2022, 04:36:30 PM
I will not be happy with a loss.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on November 14, 2022, 04:40:30 PM
I will not be happy with a loss.
Sad
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 14, 2022, 04:43:28 PM
I'll be happy if 20 pt loss

Edey might score 100
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on November 14, 2022, 05:02:00 PM
Edey might score 100
He reminds me of Wilt
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 14, 2022, 05:08:16 PM
He reminds me of Wilt

We need to send some goons out there
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Goose on November 14, 2022, 05:11:34 PM
I am hoping for a respectable loss. My hopes are not too high and would love to see them stay in the game. Anything around 10-12 point loss is what I am expecting.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 14, 2022, 06:19:55 PM
I am hoping for a respectable loss. My hopes are not too high and would love to see them stay in the game. Anything around 10-12 point loss is what I am expecting.

On the road at Mackey that’s likely Goose.  Going to the game anyway.  Once in a while as a fan you get to see a great road win in person.  I’m hoping this is one of those times. 
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MuggsyB on November 14, 2022, 07:02:53 PM
I am hoping for a respectable loss. My hopes are not too high and would love to see them stay in the game. Anything around 10-12 point loss is what I am expecting.

Goose, what do you expect our line-up to be when Oso is off the floor?  How can we muck this up a bit and get them to kick the rock away like Illinois did last year?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 14, 2022, 07:06:03 PM
We need to send some goons out there




Ewe goin', hey?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 14, 2022, 07:11:19 PM



Ewe goin', hey?

No, West Lafayette terrifies me
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Goose on November 14, 2022, 07:53:02 PM
Muggsy

I think the lineups are going to be crazy all season. One thing I know, there will be a lot of guards on the court.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on November 16, 2022, 12:40:18 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 16, 2022
•   After losing to Purdue 75-70 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 15-15 (9-11 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are currently 32%.up 5% from 27%
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #62 team in the country, and the #7 team in the Big East up from #9
•   Next game: Thu, Nov 17 vs. #317 LIU. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 96% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 32%   
Get Automatic Bid 4%   
Projected Seed (if selected) 9
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on November 18, 2022, 01:43:12 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 18, 2022
•   After beating LIU 95-58 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 17-13 (10-10 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 48%, an increase of 14% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #51 team in the country, and the #6 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Mon, Nov 21 vs. #25 Miss State. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 37% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 48%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 6%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 9
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on November 22, 2022, 10:15:06 AM

Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 22, 2022
•   After losing to Miss State 58-55 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 16-14 (10-10 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are down to 41%, a decrease of 3% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #47 team in the country, and the #7 team in the Big East.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 41%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 5 %
Projected Seed (if Selected) 9
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on November 24, 2022, 08:52:23 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 24, 2022
•   After beating GA Tech 84-60 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 18-13 (11-9 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 50%, an increase of 9% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #40 team in the country, and the #6 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Nov 26 vs. #347 Chicago St. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 99% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 50%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 7%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 9
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on November 24, 2022, 08:56:14 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 24, 2022
•   After beating GA Tech 84-60 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 18-13 (11-9 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 50%, an increase of 9% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #40 team in the country, and the #6 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Nov 26 vs. #347 Chicago St. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 99% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 50%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 7%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 9
Good bump. Only 99% chance to win? Disappointed.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MU82 on November 24, 2022, 09:32:18 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 24, 2022
•   After beating GA Tech 84-60 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 18-13 (11-9 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 50%, an increase of 9% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #40 team in the country, and the #6 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Nov 26 vs. #347 Chicago St. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 99% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 50%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 7%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 9

So a neutral-court victory over a crappy Georgia Tech team got us a projected 2 more wins and a 50/50 shot at an NCAAT bid? Nice!

Beat Chicago State, and we'll be #1!!
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: mu_hilltopper on November 24, 2022, 09:36:59 AM
What website are these rankings from?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: jfp61 on November 24, 2022, 09:38:08 AM
So a neutral-court victory over a crappy Georgia Tech team got us a projected 2 more wins and a 50/50 shot at an NCAAT bid? Nice!

Beat Chicago State, and we'll be #1!!

When you beat Georgia Tech by 24 when the spread was 5ish. I implies that you will win more games in the future.

We're currently a similar team to last year with bad luck.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: barfolomew on November 24, 2022, 10:09:16 AM
Good bump. Only 99% chance to win? Disappointed.

Call that the "Georgetown 1%"
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 24, 2022, 01:12:37 PM
What website are these rankings from?

Something called teamrankings.com
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: real chili 83 on November 24, 2022, 01:21:14 PM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 24, 2022, 03:31:07 PM
Interesting.

Rumrankings.com would be more interesting
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on November 24, 2022, 04:12:53 PM
Rumrankings.com would be more interesting
Yeah
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: mu_hilltopper on November 24, 2022, 04:49:11 PM
Something called teamrankings.com

I went there, but didn't find the same type of info, so I asked.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/projections
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 24, 2022, 04:55:29 PM
I went there, but didn't find the same type of info, so I asked.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/projections

Scoop needs a post breathalyzer
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 24, 2022, 06:36:05 PM
I went there, but didn't find the same type of info, so I asked.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/projections

I think you have to sign up for updates and they email them to you
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on November 24, 2022, 10:41:30 PM
Purdue up 10 with 11 minutes left on West Virginia.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on November 27, 2022, 02:46:07 PM
 Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 27, 2022
•   After beating Chicago St 82-68 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 18-13 (11-9 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are down to 44%, a decrease of 8% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #43 team in the country, and the #5 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Tue, Nov 29 vs. #7 Baylor. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 33% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 44%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 6%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 9
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on November 30, 2022, 12:24:28 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Nov 30, 2022
•   After beating Baylor 96-70 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 20-11 (12-8 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 71%, an increase of 25% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #34 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Dec 3 vs. #53 Wisconsin. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 72% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 71%   
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 9%   
Projected Seed (if Selected) 8
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on November 30, 2022, 01:16:50 PM
That's even more of a bump than I expected.
I do question how we are ranked 19 spots ahead of Wisconsin. If that's the case, I hope that there's a lot of chalk in the air Saturday.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: cheebs09 on November 30, 2022, 01:20:03 PM
That's even more of a bump than I expected.
I do question how we are ranked 19 spots ahead of Wisconsin. If that's the case, I hope that there's a lot of chalk in the air Saturday.

I think outlier performances will skew the data a bit early on due to small sample size.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 02, 2022, 10:49:25 AM
Bracketology Joe Lunardi had Marquette in his Next Four Out the morning prior to the Marquette Baylor game.
Marquette’s Kenpom was # 33 Yesterday.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 02, 2022, 01:36:16 PM
Marquette is ranked #20 in the nation in todays CBS Sports Top 25 And 1
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: mu_hilltopper on December 02, 2022, 04:00:43 PM
I hope the team is ignoring a potential #20 ranking and keeps remembering they were picked 9th in the Big East.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 02, 2022, 04:13:27 PM
I hope the team is ignoring a potential #20 ranking and keeps remembering they were picked 9th in the Big East.

100%
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on December 02, 2022, 08:20:11 PM
Marquette is ranked #20 in the nation in todays CBS Sports Top 25 And 1
Well that sucks, jinx! Ya
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 04, 2022, 11:11:25 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Dec 4, 2022
•   After losing to Wisconsin 80-77 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 19-12 (12-8 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are down to 63%, a decrease of 9% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #33 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Tue, Dec 6 vs. #220 NC Central. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 95% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 63%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 8%
Projected Seed 9 (if Selected)
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 04, 2022, 11:13:40 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Dec 4, 2022
•   After losing to Wisconsin 80-77 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 19-12 (12-8 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are down to 63%, a decrease of 9% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #33 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Tue, Dec 6 vs. #220 NC Central. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 95% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 63%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 8%
Projected Seed 9 (if Selected)

If a 19-12 (12-8) Big East record is only a 63% chance of making it, I gotta say I don't like our odds of getting in this year.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 04, 2022, 10:42:03 PM
If a 19-12 (12-8) Big East record is only a 63% chance of making it, I gotta say I don't like our odds of getting in this year.

Yes Geagle03. We know, we know.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 04, 2022, 10:44:12 PM
If a 19-12 (12-8) Big East record is only a 63% chance of making it, I gotta say I don't like our odds of getting in this year.

That's not what that means
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 04, 2022, 10:44:46 PM
Yes Geagle03. We know, we know.

Moreso just pointing out that 19-12, 12-8 would be a lock to get in than anything else.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: brewcity77 on December 04, 2022, 10:59:37 PM
Moreso just pointing out that 19-12, 12-8 would be a lock to get in than anything else.

19-12, 12-8 would likely be the bubble this year. I'd put the over/under on Big East bids at 4.5 right now. Probably lean the under with a couple close NIT teams.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 04, 2022, 11:16:51 PM
19-12, 12-8 would likely be the bubble this year. I'd put the over/under on Big East bids at 4.5 right now. Probably lean the under with a couple close NIT teams.

If that proves to be true the a ton would have to go right for MU to get in and I don't understand why that is an opinion that gets such fierce pushback.  Not saying it is impossible but having to go 12-8 or 13-7 to get in seems like a long shot.  Idk.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: DoctorV on December 04, 2022, 11:47:17 PM
19-12, 12-8 would likely be the bubble this year. I'd put the over/under on Big East bids at 4.5 right now. Probably lean the under with a couple close NIT teams.

Very hard to doubt your opinion here, for obvious reasons.

There are only 3 teams on the schedule that have a better KenPom ranking than UW, so 6 games total versus UConn, Creighton, and X.

StJ, Nova, SH, Providence and ND are all currently in the top 75, so that’s 9 additional games against current top 75 teams.

Then there’s Butler&DePaul in the top 100 and the ugly outlier Gtown around 150ish, so 6 games there.

Let’s make an educated guess and say 5 wins in the 6 games versus the bottom tier, 4/5 wins versus the middle tier, and conservatively 1 win versus the top tier.
That’s right around that 10/11 win mark in conference.
IMO that middle tier of 9 games versus  current KenPom teams lower than Marquette currently in the top 75 (which includes ND) will likely decide MUs ncaa fate. Win 5/6 of those 9 and they should be sitting pretty.

It is a bit difficult to buy that a 12-8 conference season wouldn’t be enough in a year when Marquette is ranked in the top 40/45 going into conference play.

When do the first NET rankings come out? It’s typically early December no?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: brewcity77 on December 05, 2022, 07:13:45 AM
If that proves to be true the a ton would have to go right for MU to get in and I don't understand why that is an opinion that gets such fierce pushback.  Not saying it is impossible but having to go 12-8 or 13-7 to get in seems like a long shot.  Idk.

Because based on this season's data, Marquette has been the second-best team in the Big East and is very safely in the top-four. It's worth looking at this piece (https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63841.msg1487220;topicseen#new) that I wrote about unbiased data this season. While things could change, and the Big East hasn't been good, that likely benefits Marquette because we have a schedule that is weak compared to how our team has performed. Using this season's data on T-Rank, we are favored to win every game but four. We are underdogs in both UConn games and on the road at Xavier (+0.7) and Creighton (+2.4) Obviously the projected record wouldn't match completely because of percentages, but that's a raw favorite record of 24-7 (16-4) come the Big East Tournament.

In this Big East, looking at how bad St. John's, Providence, Villanova, DePaul, and Georgetown have been, 12 or 13 wins feels like a pretty low bar to clear. I think a number of people are both underrating how good Marquette has been while overrating how good the rest of the league is.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Shooter McGavin on December 05, 2022, 07:25:41 AM
Because based on this season's data, Marquette has been the second-best team in the Big East and is very safely in the top-four. It's worth looking at this piece (https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=63841.msg1487220;topicseen#new) that I wrote about unbiased data this season. While things could change, and the Big East hasn't been good, that likely benefits Marquette because we have a schedule that is weak compared to how our team has performed. Using this season's data on T-Rank, we are favored to win every game but four. We are underdogs in both UConn games and on the road at Xavier (+0.7) and Creighton (+2.4) Obviously the projected record wouldn't match completely because of percentages, but that's a raw favorite record of 24-7 (16-4) come the Big East Tournament.

In this Big East, looking at how bad St. John's, Providence, Villanova, DePaul, and Georgetown have been, 12 or 13 wins feels like a pretty low bar to clear. I think a number of people are both underrating how good Marquette has been while overrating how good the rest of the league is.

This could be the perfect league for this young team to develop while still being able to win and get to the NCAA tournament.  A down year for the conference with an ascending young team seems like a great opportunity.  Hopefully that’s the case. 

Let’s beat ND and go into conference play on a high note.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: withoutbias on December 05, 2022, 07:34:11 AM
The Baylor game was quite the outlier. If we do that 1 out of every 9 games we play this season I will be absolutely floored. That’s boosting our current year numbers quite a bit.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 07, 2022, 01:51:19 AM
On Monday Joe Lunardi ESPN had Marquette as a 9 Seed playing 8 Seed West Virginia
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Mu8891 on December 07, 2022, 02:00:57 PM
And in Lunardi’s prediction …

MU would get a rematch w / Purdue in the 2d round.  I will take that and run any day of the week
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 07, 2022, 02:35:00 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Dec 7, 2022
•   After beating NC Central 90-78 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 19-12 (11-9 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are currently 61%.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #36 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sun, Dec 11 at #85 Notre Dame. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 59% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 61%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 8%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 9
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: barfolomew on December 07, 2022, 02:44:16 PM
•   After beating NC Central 90-78 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 19-12 (11-9 Big East).

Looks like they docked us one Big East game because of that 2nd half performance.
Seems excessive.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: lawdog77 on December 07, 2022, 04:18:38 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Dec 7, 2022
•   After beating NC Central 90-78 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 19-12 (11-9 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are currently 61%.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #36 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sun, Dec 11 at #85 Notre Dame. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 59% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 61%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 8%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 9
When reading these, am i the only one who reads these with an internal.voice sounding like the Wizard of Oz?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on December 08, 2022, 06:25:22 AM
When reading these, am i the only one who reads these with an internal.voice sounding like the Wizard of Oz?
I thought that was the voice inside every lawyer's head.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Scoop Snoop on December 08, 2022, 08:47:49 AM
I thought that was the voice inside every lawyer's head.

Cue the lawyer jokes.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 12, 2022, 09:36:40 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Dec 12, 2022
•   After beating Notre Dame 79-64 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 20-11 (12-8 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 68%, an increase of 13% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #32 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Fri, Dec 16 vs. #27 Creighton. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 57% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 68%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 8%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 8
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: nycwarrior on December 12, 2022, 11:52:12 AM
I love these game by game updates. Thank you for posting them.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Goose on December 12, 2022, 12:04:25 PM
nycwarrior

I enjoy these posts as well, especially when trending the right direction.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 12, 2022, 12:38:41 PM
Marquette #26 in Coaches Poll
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: The Thing on December 12, 2022, 01:00:06 PM
I know it may depend on which games are won and lost but if MU were to go 20-11 (12-8) would that really be only an 8 seed?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: PointWarrior on December 12, 2022, 01:00:37 PM
to be complete - a 3 way tie for 26th with Iowa and Iowa State :)


Marquette #26 in Coaches Poll
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: LloydsLegs on December 12, 2022, 01:26:21 PM
@newsie cease and desist
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on December 13, 2022, 05:58:16 AM
@newsie cease and desist
Why would I listen to a corrupt lawyer  ;D
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: brewcity77 on December 13, 2022, 06:06:25 AM
I know it may depend on which games are won and lost but if MU were to go 20-11 (12-8) would that really be only an 8 seed?

At 12-8, I think 8 would be the high mark. I'm looking at the Big East as a 4-bid league at the moment. 8 losses means at least 2 outside the field, and likely more in the event we get some good wins. This is the drawback to a weak Big East. Unless we're neck and neck with UConn, our ceiling is probably in the 5-6 range because they league just isn't that great. Could've really used a better record than 0-3 in our games decided by 5 or fewer points.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 13, 2022, 12:05:47 PM
Joe Lunardi ESPN has Marquette as an 8 Seed Playing 9 Seed San Diego State in Today’s Bracketology
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 13, 2022, 12:16:04 PM
Joe Lunardi ESPN has Marquette as an 8 Seed Playing 9 Seed San Diego State in Today’s Bracketology

MU is #20 in Haslam.  #3 in Big East behind UCONN(1) and Xavier(19).  Maybe the Big East isn't so down versus others?

As a reminder, Haslam is based on play by play data (transactional) so it provides more sample size than Pomeroy (aggregated).

https://haslametrics.com/ratings.php
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 17, 2022, 08:34:22 AM
I love these game by game updates. Thank you for posting them.
As Marquette Dean Bausch would say Thank You for saying Thank You. Like posting anything that has do with Marquette as a team.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 17, 2022, 08:35:56 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Dec 17, 2022
•   After beating Creighton 69-58 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 20-11 (12-8 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 77%, an increase of 12% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #29 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Tue, Dec 20 at #73 Providence. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 58% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 77%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 9%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 8
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 17, 2022, 08:40:21 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Dec 17, 2022
•   After beating Creighton 69-58 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 20-11 (12-8 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 77%, an increase of 12% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #29 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Tue, Dec 20 at #73 Providence. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 58% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 77%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 9%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 8

  from #9 (F'em) to #3 hell yeah and F'em sideways
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 17, 2022, 03:38:31 PM
Joe Lunardi ESPN S Curve has Marquette at #29 today

https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/1604116230016729095?s=46&t=8G1Y2z3CXNITAePRdJ7gBA
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: LloydsLegs on December 17, 2022, 04:55:26 PM
Why would I listen to a corrupt lawyer  ;D

Ok 🦵 has had it with this guy
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on December 17, 2022, 05:21:52 PM
Ok 🦵 has had it with this guy
You know exactly where to find me...
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: LloydsLegs on December 17, 2022, 05:27:09 PM
You know exactly where to find me...

😂
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on December 17, 2022, 05:36:28 PM
😂
Send the invoice
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 17, 2022, 07:03:16 PM
^^^ Ban dez guys
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on December 17, 2022, 07:07:09 PM
^^^ Ban dez guys
Stay in your lane
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 17, 2022, 07:11:41 PM
Stay in your lane

Okay, Half Load
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 17, 2022, 08:08:11 PM
F...'em any witch wey ya kan, aina?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on December 17, 2022, 10:01:26 PM
Okay, Half Load
I'm unleashing Muggsy
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: rocket surgeon on December 18, 2022, 06:49:32 AM
Ok 🦵 has had it with this guy

i feel your pain man
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on December 18, 2022, 07:41:07 AM
i feel your pain man
He doesn't feel pain. His invoices are painful.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 22, 2022, 10:59:42 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Dec 21, 2022
•   After losing to Providence 103-98 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 20-11 (12-8 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are down to 62%, a decrease of 10% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #32 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Tue, Dec 27 vs. #61 Seton Hall. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 72% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 62%
 Get Automatic NCAA Bid 8%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 8
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Mu8891 on December 22, 2022, 12:59:30 PM
I think 12 - 8 is very doable….

Need to beat SH next week.   


And … I’m hoping UCONN comes in undefeated and ranked No. 1 in a few weeks.   
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 28, 2022, 11:15:11 AM
MarquetteBasketballPredictionsUpdateDec28,2022
•   After beating Seton Hall 83-69 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 20-11 (12-8 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 72%, an increase of 8% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #29 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Dec 31 at #54 Villanova. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 50% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament  72%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 9%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 8
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 28, 2022, 11:19:38 AM
Joe Lunardi ESPN Bracketology has Marquette as a 8 seed today playing 9 seed Kansas State

https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/1607783350504415232?s=46&t=RZsBmy521T2yA7GmK4ytFg
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on December 30, 2022, 12:06:15 PM
Marquette is #27 in the latest Joe Lunardi S Curve  today

https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/1608874112969224193?s=46&t=RZsBmy521T2yA7GmK4ytFg
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 01, 2023, 01:07:17 PM
Marquette Basketball Predictions Update
Jan 1, 2023
•   After beating Villanova 68-66 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 21-10 (13-7 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 78%, an increase of 5% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #30 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Tue, Jan 3 at #72 St Johns. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 57% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 78%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 10%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 8
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 04, 2023, 02:23:59 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Jan 4, 2023
•   After beating St Johns 96-85 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 21-10 (13-7 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 85%, an increase of 7% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #27 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Jan 7 vs. #179 Georgetown. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 94% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 85%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 11%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 7
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: copious1218 on January 04, 2023, 02:29:55 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Jan 4, 2023
•   After beating St Johns 96-85 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 21-10 (13-7 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 85%, an increase of 7% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #27 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Jan 7 vs. #179 Georgetown. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 94% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 85%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 11%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 7

Appreciate the updates. A couple questions: 1)  what site is this coming from; and 2) who are the three big east teams ranked ahead of us (I assume UConn and Xavier are two of them?)
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 04, 2023, 02:33:08 PM
Appreciate the updates. A couple questions: 1)  what site is this coming from; and 2) who are the three big east teams ranked ahead of us (I assume UConn and Xavier are two of them?)

I believe its: https://www.teamrankings.com/ncb/

They have UConn (3), Xavier (17), and Creighton (18) ahead of us.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 04, 2023, 02:39:48 PM
I believe its: https://www.teamrankings.com/ncb/

They have UConn (3), Xavier (17), and Creighton (18) ahead of us.

I do not understand how so many are still this high on Creighton. I mean I get their star was out but woof those were some ugly games
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 04, 2023, 02:42:59 PM
Joe Lunardi ESPN Bracketology has Marquette as a # 5 Seed playing # 12 Seed UAB in yesterdays Bracketology
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Goose on January 04, 2023, 02:44:28 PM
Galway

I think Creighton is going to be a tough out the rest of the way. I am happy we played them when we did at home.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 04, 2023, 03:06:02 PM
Galway

I think Creighton is going to be a tough out the rest of the way. I am happy we played them when we did at home.

Definitely agree they're going to be tough the rest of the way. But I think it should take more than a few throw away games against Butler, DePaul, Seton Hall to offset 6 straight losses, many against pathetic competition, to get back to the acclaim they had earlier in the year.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 04, 2023, 03:11:20 PM
I do not understand how so many are still this high on Creighton. I mean I get their star was out but woof those were some ugly games

I think the site is a betting site, so from that standpoint I think it makes sense to rank based on how teams will be moving forward, not how they were when their star was out
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 04, 2023, 03:58:59 PM
Joe Lunardi ESPN Bracketology has Marquette as a # 5 Seed playing # 12 Seed UAB in yesterdays Bracketology

Loss
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: tower912 on January 04, 2023, 04:05:29 PM
At least it isn't a 6-11 matchup, a la MU vs Washington.   
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 04, 2023, 04:09:37 PM
At least it isn't a 6-11 matchup, a la MU vs Washington.

 :'(

Still too soon... as is Mizzou... as is Stanford. One think to look like we don't belong there Like the two UNC losses, Florida, Syracuse, South Carolina and Murray st. But man it's painful when we're already looking at the next round at the end of the game and the other team takes it away from us.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 04, 2023, 04:14:05 PM
Joe Lunardi ESPN Bracketology has Marquette as a # 5 Seed playing # 12 Seed UAB in yesterdays Bracketology

Attempting a CUSA reunion?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 04, 2023, 04:17:25 PM
Attempting a CUSA reunion?

Ironically, it was a Mike Anderson UAB team that knocked the Wade 2003 team out of the CUSA tournament.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Dickthedribbler on January 04, 2023, 06:12:25 PM
Ironically, it was a Mike Anderson UAB team that knocked the Wade 2003 team out of the CUSA tournament.

I was at that 2003 C-USA Tournament at Freedom Hall. Very. ugly and disappointing game with UAB.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 06, 2023, 03:17:04 PM
Joe Lunardi ESPN has Marquette as a  # 6 Seed Playing # 11 Pittsburgh in Denver in the South Louisville Region. Winner plays # 3 Seed Texas # 14 Seed Cornell Winner
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 06, 2023, 03:22:27 PM
I was at that 2003 C-USA Tournament at Freedom Hall. Very. ugly and disappointing game with UAB.

IIRC they blew us out and DWade had a ton of turnovers.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 06, 2023, 03:32:04 PM
Joe Lunardi ESPN has Marquette as a  # 6 Seed Playing # 11 Pittsburgh in Denver in the South Louisville Region. Winner plays # 3 Seed Texas # 14 Seed Cornell Winner

The Greg Elliot bowl. Followed by the "sorry not sorry for taking Shaka" bowl. Fun.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: zcg2013 on January 06, 2023, 03:33:21 PM
Joe Lunardi ESPN has Marquette as a  # 6 Seed Playing # 11 Pittsburgh in Denver in the South Louisville Region. Winner plays # 3 Seed Texas # 14 Seed Cornell Winner

Slightly convinced Lunardi looks at what could be an intriguing matchup when doing these early brackets. Playing Greg w/ a chance to play Shaka's old team.

That or i'm just looking to hard into this.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 06, 2023, 03:37:09 PM
Slightly convinced Lunardi looks at what could be an intriguing matchup when doing these early brackets. Playing Greg w/ a chance to play Shaka's old team.

That or i'm just looking to hard into this.

No he does this routinely.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: PointWarrior on January 06, 2023, 03:51:41 PM
cool, is it too early to book flights for Denver?


Joe Lunardi ESPN has Marquette as a  # 6 Seed Playing # 11 Pittsburgh in Denver in the South Louisville Region. Winner plays # 3 Seed Texas # 14 Seed Cornell Winner
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 08, 2023, 08:46:28 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Jan 8, 2023
•   After beating Georgetown 95-73 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 22-9 (14-6 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 85%, an increase of 2% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #23 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Wed, Jan 11 vs. #3 Connecticut. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 40% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 85%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 12%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 7
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 12, 2023, 11:46:53 AM
   
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Jan 12, 2023
•   After beating Connecticut 82-76 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 22-9 (14-6 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 94%, an increase of 12% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #22 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sun, Jan 15 at #15 Xavier. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 35% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 94%
 Get Automatic NCAA Bid 14%
Projected Seed(if Selected) 6
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 12, 2023, 05:48:42 PM
ESPN Which Team has surprised You in a good way Why
Medcalf: I'll take Marquette here. Shaka Smart's squad was picked to finish ninth in the Big East, over Georgetown (10th) and DePaul (11th), in the preseason poll. The Golden Eagles lost their top two scorers from last season (Darryl Morsell and Justin Lewis) after reaching the NCAA tournament in Smart's first season. In his second, they're off to a 5-1 start in Big East play, with two of their four overall losses (Providence, Wisconsin) unfolding in overtime. They also have a five-point road loss to Purdue. But, Marquette has just one loss since Dec. 3. In a crowded conference, it's easy to overlook its success thus far. But this team is playing good, entertaining basketball -- sixth in adjusted offensive efficiency on KenPom -- right now. PS Edit This was written yesterday. Marquette is # 4 in adjusted offensive efficiency on KenPom today
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 16, 2023, 11:10:51 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Jan 16, 2023
•   After losing to Xavier 80-76 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 22-9 (14-6 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are down to 90%, a decrease of 3% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #26 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Wed, Jan 18 vs. #40 Providence. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 70% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 90%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 15%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 7
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 19, 2023, 12:06:25 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Jan 19, 2023
•   After beating Providence 83-75 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 22-9 (14-6 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 93%, an increase of 2% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #23 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Jan 21 at #48 Seton Hall. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 51% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 93%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 15%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 6
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: tower912 on January 19, 2023, 01:10:01 PM
Torvik says that the closest comp to this year's team is the 2017 MU team.   The 2018 MU team is also in the top 10 comparable teams


https://www.barttorvik.com/profile-compare.php?team=Marquette&year=2023&cov=1&o=4&d=4&tt=4&efg_w=1&oreb_w=1&tov_w=1&ftr_w=1&defg_w=1&doreb_w=1&dtov_w=1&dftr_w=1&threerate_w=1&talent_w=1&exp_w=1&ht_w=1
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2023, 03:36:55 PM
Torvik says that the closest comp to this year's team is the 2017 MU team.   The 2018 MU team is also in the top 10 comparable teams


https://www.barttorvik.com/profile-compare.php?team=Marquette&year=2023&cov=1&o=4&d=4&tt=4&efg_w=1&oreb_w=1&tov_w=1&ftr_w=1&defg_w=1&doreb_w=1&dtov_w=1&dftr_w=1&threerate_w=1&talent_w=1&exp_w=1&ht_w=1

😬
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 19, 2023, 04:12:40 PM
Torvik says that the closest comp to this year's team is the 2017 MU team.   The 2018 MU team is also in the top 10 comparable teams


https://www.barttorvik.com/profile-compare.php?team=Marquette&year=2023&cov=1&o=4&d=4&tt=4&efg_w=1&oreb_w=1&tov_w=1&ftr_w=1&defg_w=1&doreb_w=1&dtov_w=1&dftr_w=1&threerate_w=1&talent_w=1&exp_w=1&ht_w=1

Let’s hope not.  Those teams did not go very far. 
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Mu8891 on January 19, 2023, 05:14:34 PM
If the bids went out today, MU is a
4 or 5 seed, NOT a 6.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 19, 2023, 05:19:04 PM
If the bids went out today, MU is a
4 or 5 seed, NOT a 6.

I'd rather be a 6 than a 4 or 5.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 19, 2023, 05:21:04 PM
I'd rather be a 6 than a 4 or 5.

What's your reasoning behind that?

Being a 4 or better should be the goal.  13 seeds are 'typically' where the talent disparity is noticable. 5/12s have shown to be tossups.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: brewcity77 on January 19, 2023, 07:02:35 PM
What's your reasoning behind that?

Being a 4 or better should be the goal.  13 seeds are 'typically' where the talent disparity is noticable. 5/12s have shown to be tossups.

It's about the second/third round matchups. Playing into a 3 and 2 and not seeing a 1 until the E8 can be an easier road, especially as upsets (and thus easier paths) are more likely for those 3s and 2s than 1s.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 19, 2023, 08:19:31 PM
It's about the second/third round matchups. Playing into a 3 and 2 and not seeing a 1 until the E8 can be an easier road, especially as upsets (and thus easier paths) are more likely for those 3s and 2s than 1s.

I guess I'm mostly interested in winning game 1 and worrying about a 2nd round matchup if we get there.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: brewcity77 on January 20, 2023, 05:07:42 AM
I guess I'm mostly interested in winning game 1 and worrying about a 2nd round matchup if we get there.

There's an argument for 6 there too, but the data doesn't bear it out. The theory goes that you'd rather see the worst qualifying high majors (typically 11s) than the best mid-majors. At one point, I think 12s on the whole were doing better than 11s, which was where the 5/12 narrative came from, but over time that's shifted back. Here's the historic seed vs seed data:

https://mcubed.net/ncaab/seeds.shtml
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MU82 on January 20, 2023, 07:17:54 AM
I want Marquette to be the highest seed possible, with the exception that I'd rather be a 10 than an 8 or 9.

If we keep playing like this, we won't have to worry about 8, 9 or 10.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: noblewarrior on January 20, 2023, 11:40:19 AM
Some dudes on the youtubes... contenders

https://youtu.be/r78vufA-KWQ
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 22, 2023, 08:28:40 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Jan 22, 2023
•   After beating Seton Hall 74-53 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 23-8 (15-5 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are up to 98%, an increase of 4% since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #18 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Jan 28 at #120 DePaul. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 78% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 98%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 18%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 5
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 22, 2023, 11:13:06 PM
Who's still projected as better?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on January 23, 2023, 08:16:55 AM
Who's still projected as better?
I would imagine Xavier & UConn
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 29, 2023, 08:46:59 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Jan 29, 2023
•   After beating DePaul 89-69 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 23-8 (15-5 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are currently 99%.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #15 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Wed, Feb 1 vs. #61 Villanova. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 80% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 99%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 19%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 5
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: pbiflyer on January 29, 2023, 09:07:41 PM
COLE.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: We R Final Four on January 29, 2023, 09:09:34 PM
Slightly convinced Lunardi looks at what could be an intriguing matchup when doing these early brackets. Playing Greg w/ a chance to play Shaka's old team.

That or i'm just looking to hard into this.
Some scoopers do the same.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 30, 2023, 08:58:39 AM
COLE.

This confuses me. 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cole

Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on January 30, 2023, 09:49:18 AM
This confuses me. 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cole

Used 'round these parts as a shorthand for a member of the Cult Of Low Expectations
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: oldwarrior81 on January 30, 2023, 10:33:25 AM
After the DePaul game, I believe MU is sitting at 12 in the NET ratings.

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Newsdreams on January 30, 2023, 11:14:34 AM
After the DePaul game, I believe MU is sitting at 12 in the NET ratings.

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette
There is a thread devoted to NET
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 31, 2023, 03:37:06 PM
Regular Season Record Projection
Current Record17-5 (9-2 Big East )
Projection Remaining Games 6-3 (6-3 Big East)
Projected Final Record 23-8 (15-5 Big East)
•   The more precise final record expectation for Marquette is 23.3 wins and 7.7 losses, slightly better than the rounded projection above.
•   Based on our projections, the Golden Eagles will most likely finish the regular season either 24-7 or 23-8.
•   Marquette has a 3% chance to win all 9 of their remaining scheduled games.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 31, 2023, 03:46:58 PM
After the DePaul game, I believe MU is sitting at 12 in the NET ratings.

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2023/team-net-sheet?team=Marquette

Thanks it is Great to see the Break Down.
Started the Bracketology thread last year and people put all sorts of team rankings on it which is fine. It is all good. All Team rankings are awesome.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on January 31, 2023, 03:50:22 PM
Big East Tournament Projections
Get Big East #1 Seed   39%
Projected Seed 1
Win Big East Tournament 19%
•   The odds for Marquette to earn the #1 seed in the Big East tournament are up 11% since yesterday.
•   The chance of Marquette winning the Big East tournament has increased by 1% since yesterday.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on February 02, 2023, 12:30:56 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Feb 2, 2023 5 Seed seems off
•   After beating Villanova 73-64 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 24-7 (16-4 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are 99%, unchanged since yesterday.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #15 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Feb 4 vs. #95 Butler. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 89% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 99%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 19%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 5
•   Marquette is a lock to make the NCAA tournament, regardless of whether they win the Big East tournament.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 41% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen and a 9% chance to reach the Final Four.
•   Marquette has a 2% chance to win the NCAA Tournament. That may not sound like much, but few teams even have this good of a chance.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on February 02, 2023, 08:59:53 PM
Remaining Games & Win Odds
Feb 4
vs. #95 Butler
89.1%
Feb 7
@ #5 Connecticut
29.0%
Feb 11
@ #180 Georgetown
88.0%
Feb 15
vs. #21 Xavier
64.3%
Feb 21
@ #12 Creighton
36.3%
Feb 25
vs. #122 DePaul
92.7%
Preview
Feb 28
@ #95 Butler
74.6%
Mar 4
Vs #72 Saint Johns
74.2%
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: fjm on February 02, 2023, 09:04:24 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on February 05, 2023, 12:45:59 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Feb 5, 2023
•   After beating Butler 60-52 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 24-7 (16-4 Big East).
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #17 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Tue, Feb 7 at #5 Connecticut. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 29% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 100%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 19%
Projected Seed 5
•   Marquette is a lock to make the NCAA tournament, regardless of whether they win the Big East tournament.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 39% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen and a 8% chance to reach the Final Four.
•   Marquette has a 2% chance to win the NCAA Tournament. That may not sound like much, but few teams even have this good of a chance.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: BLWarrior91 on February 05, 2023, 12:51:50 PM
We need at least a four seed. 
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on February 07, 2023, 08:00:30 AM
Jeff Borzello ESPN Power Rankings

12. Marquette Golden Eagles (19-5)
Previous ranking: 13
 This week: at UConn (Tuesday), at Georgetown (Saturday)
We've talked about Tyler Kolek before, but he's beginning to become more consistently aggressive offensively as some of his teammates hit mini scoring slumps. After hitting double figures five times in the first 18 games of the season, he's hit that mark in five of his last six. Remember, this was a player who averaged nearly 11 points as a freshman at George Mason before he became one of the elite passers in the country. Over the last six games, though, Kolek is averaging 18.0 points and shooting 41.4% from 3 while still dishing out 7.2 assists a night. At this point, there's a strong argument for him as Player of the Year in the Big East.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MU82 on February 07, 2023, 08:02:15 AM
Jeff Borzello ESPN Power Rankings

12. Marquette Golden Eagles (19-5)
Previous ranking: 13
 This week: at UConn (Tuesday), at Georgetown (Saturday)
We've talked about Tyler Kolek before, but he's beginning to become more consistently aggressive offensively as some of his teammates hit mini scoring slumps. After hitting double figures five times in the first 18 games of the season, he's hit that mark in five of his last six. Remember, this was a player who averaged nearly 11 points as a freshman at George Mason before he became one of the elite passers in the country. Over the last six games, though, Kolek is averaging 18.0 points and shooting 41.4% from 3 while still dishing out 7.2 assists a night. At this point, there's a strong argument for him as Player of the Year in the Big East.

Agree. If he can keep up that pace, and we win most of our games, he should be BEPOY.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on February 10, 2023, 05:09:19 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Feb 8, 2023
•   After losing to Connecticut 87-72 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 23-8 (15-5 Big East).
•   The odds that the Golden Eagles make the NCAA tournament are currently 99%.
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #20 team in the country, and the #4 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Feb 11 at #173 Georgetown. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 87% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 99%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 17%
Projected Seed (if Selected) 5
•   Marquette is a lock to make the NCAA tournament, regardless of whether they win the Big East tournament.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 35% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen and a 7% chance to reach the Final Four.
•   Marquette has a 1% chance to win the NCAA Tournament. That may not sound like much, but few teams even have this good of a chance.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on February 12, 2023, 11:31:59 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Feb 12, 2023
•   After beating Georgetown 89-75 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 23-8 (15-5 Big East).
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #17 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Wed, Feb 15 vs. #20 Xavier. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 63% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 100%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 18%
Projected Seed 5
•   Marquette is a lock to make the NCAA tournament, regardless of whether they win the Big East tournament.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 38% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen and a 8% chance to reach the Final Four.
•   Marquette has a 1% chance to win the NCAA Tournament. That may not sound like much, but few teams even have this good of a chance.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MU82 on February 13, 2023, 08:15:50 AM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Feb 12, 2023
•   After beating Georgetown 89-75 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 23-8 (15-5 Big East).
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #17 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Wed, Feb 15 vs. #20 Xavier. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 63% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 100%
Get Automatic NCAA Bid 18%
Projected Seed 5
•   Marquette is a lock to make the NCAA tournament, regardless of whether they win the Big East tournament.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 38% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen and a 8% chance to reach the Final Four.
•   Marquette has a 1% chance to win the NCAA Tournament. That may not sound like much, but few teams even have this good of a chance.

This says we'll be 15-5 in the Big East. I'm curious about which 2 games we're supposed to lose in this model. At Creighton, obviously, but it also says MU has a 63% chance to win at home against X. Is this service projecting a loss to DePaul, Butler or St. John's?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 13, 2023, 08:18:38 AM
This says we'll be 15-5 in the Big East. I'm curious about which 2 games we're supposed to lose in this model. At Creighton, obviously, but it also says MU has a 63% chance to win at home against X. Is this service projecting a loss to DePaul, Butler or St. John's?


Remember that's not how odds work.  If they have a 75% chance of winning each of the five games remaining, they still would only have a 24% chance of going 5-0.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on February 22, 2023, 02:28:03 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Feb 22, 2023
•   After beating Creighton 73-71 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 25-6 (17-3 Big East).
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #14 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Feb 25 vs. #124 DePaul. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 93% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 100%.                   Get Automatic NCAA Bid 19%
Projected Seed 4
•   Marquette is a lock to make the NCAA tournament, regardless of whether they win the Big East tournament.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 45% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen and a 9% chance to reach the Final Four.
•   Marquette has a 2% chance to win the NCAA Tournament. That may not sound like much, but few teams even have this good of a chance.
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Coleman on February 22, 2023, 02:31:14 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Feb 22, 2023
•   After beating Creighton 73-71 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 25-6 (17-3 Big East).
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #14 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Feb 25 vs. #124 DePaul. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 93% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 100%.                   Get Automatic NCAA Bid 19%
Projected Seed 4
•   Marquette is a lock to make the NCAA tournament, regardless of whether they win the Big East tournament.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 45% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen and a 9% chance to reach the Final Four.
•   Marquette has a 2% chance to win the NCAA Tournament. That may not sound like much, but few teams even have this good of a chance.

We are projected to win out the Big East schedule, making it mathematically impossible for anyone else to win it, but we are the 3rd best team in the Big East? This model is weird
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 22, 2023, 02:38:58 PM
Yep .. every time I see UConn and Creighton ranked above MU, it's maddening.

According to them, when MU wins the Big East title, they'll be the third best team.  Bogus!
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MuggsyB on February 22, 2023, 02:43:21 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Feb 22, 2023
•   After beating Creighton 73-71 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 25-6 (17-3 Big East).
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #14 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Feb 25 vs. #124 DePaul. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 93% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 100%.                   Get Automatic NCAA Bid 19%
Projected Seed 4
•   Marquette is a lock to make the NCAA tournament, regardless of whether they win the Big East tournament.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 45% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen and a 9% chance to reach the Final Four.
•   Marquette has a 2% chance to win the NCAA Tournament. That may not sound like much, but few teams even have this good of a chance.

The "#3 team in the BEast"?  Oh.....okay.  What clown outfit is spewing this nonsense?
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: Warrior Code on February 22, 2023, 02:43:28 PM
Marquette Basketball
Predictions Update
Feb 22, 2023
•   After beating Creighton 73-71 yesterday, Marquette is now projected to finish the regular season 25-6 (17-3 Big East).
•   We currently rank Marquette as the #14 team in the country, and the #3 team in the Big East.
•   Next game: Sat, Feb 25 vs. #124 DePaul. Our power ratings give the Golden Eagles a 93% chance to win.
Bracketology Projections
Make NCAA Tournament 100%.                   Get Automatic NCAA Bid 19%
Projected Seed 4
•   Marquette is a lock to make the NCAA tournament, regardless of whether they win the Big East tournament.
•   We project the Golden Eagles with a 45% chance to make the Sweet Sixteen and a 9% chance to reach the Final Four.
•   Marquette has a 2% chance to win the NCAA Tournament. That may not sound like much, but few teams even have this good of a chance.

Lol
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: CountryRoads on February 22, 2023, 02:46:48 PM
The "#3 team in the BEast"?  Oh.....okay.  What clown outfit is spewing this nonsense?

It just comes from here:

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/

Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: MuggsyB on February 22, 2023, 02:51:33 PM
It just comes from here:

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/marquette-golden-eagles/

So I guess I havd no use for that website. 
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 22, 2023, 03:21:32 PM
So I guess I havd no use for that website.


cue in tyler kolek
Title: Re: Team Rankings
Post by: muwarrior69 on February 22, 2023, 03:27:23 PM
We are projected to win out the Big East schedule, making it mathematically impossible for anyone else to win it, but we are the 3rd best team in the Big East? This model is weird

Like free throws, winning doesn't matter.