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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on November 10, 2022, 09:09:15 PM
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1. A change of pace for the students. They had the place rocking.
2. Felt like an extended jazz jam where all the different musicians have opportunities for solos.
3. Kicking cupcake butt is always fun.
4. Yes, there were slow moments. And? There was never any doubt.
5. I know what JB is going to say. I don't care. Make free throws.
6. Would have liked Keeyan to get more run.
7. On the other hand, Gold had a nice night.
8. I hope Wrightsil can go against Purdue.
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That was some fun basketball. Nice to see Joplin, Gold, and Sean Jones play with some confidence. Need Kam Jones to get going.
Now the fun begins. Let’s see what we’ve got next week.
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Maybe we should play all our home games at the AL.
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And keep the sweater vests away.
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And keep the sweater vests away.
Let's drop down to D3!
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One of the most entertaining games in recent memory. Students crushed it. Team crushed it. Shaka with the right decision at every turn. Let’s build on this. The team has talent and more importantly (in college) they have CULTURE and play TOGETHER. Something we have not been treated to for a LONG time.
Any feasibility to turning The Al into our own Paulie Pavilion (i.e. 3 home games per year)?
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One of the most entertaining games in recent memory. Students crushed it. Team crushed it. Shaka with the right decision at every turn. Let’s build on this. The team has talent and more importantly (in college) they have CULTURE and play TOGETHER. Something we have not been treated to for a LONG time.
Any feasibility to turning The Al into our own Paulie Pavilion (i.e. 3 home games per year)?
They wouldn't do that. Too much revenue lost. I could maybe see them doing it once a year for a guarantee game like tonight, but MU puts a lot of stock in attendance and this won't help it.
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They wouldn't do that. Too much revenue lost. I could maybe see them doing it once a year for a guarantee game like tonight, but MU puts a lot of stock in attendance and this won't help it.
Maybe once W**o's buy-out dries up there will be some extra headroom for a few games at The Al. Could really benefit the program.
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Confused on #8…..even if he can go, hes not getting much run.
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One of the most entertaining games in recent memory. Students crushed it. Team crushed it. Shaka with the right decision at every turn. Let’s build on this. The team has talent and more importantly (in college) they have CULTURE and play TOGETHER. Something we have not been treated to for a LONG time.
Any feasibility to turning The Al into our own Paulie Pavilion (i.e. 3 home games per year)?
Finneran Pavilion**
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Excited by this team - won’t be bottom three in BE. Wont be top 3. 3-4 very good players, 3-4 good players, 3 freshman.
No “great” players that are needed to take over or carry the team.
Now the next two years - look out (provided no major exodus).
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Cameras were much tighter than usual games.
Took a little while to get used to.
Glad no one was injured.
Get ready for Purdue.
Road game and a much much better team.
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One of the most entertaining games in recent memory. Students crushed it. Team crushed it. Shaka with the right decision at every turn. Let’s build on this. The team has talent and more importantly (in college) they have CULTURE and play TOGETHER. Something we have not been treated to for a LONG time.
Any feasibility to turning The Al into our own Paulie Pavilion (i.e. 3 home games per year)?
Wish the buy games were at the Al. Those December cupcakes can be brutal, though they only have 1 this year. Crean and Buzz years there were like 5 or 6.
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Wish the buy games were at the Al. Those December cupcakes can be brutal, though they only have 1 this year. Crean and Buzz years there were like 5 or 6.
3700 people per game. That doesn’t seem practical.
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Wish the buy games were at the Al. Those December cupcakes can be brutal, though they only have 1 this year. Crean and Buzz years there were like 5 or 6.
I would be careful about just blindly assigning all buy games to The Al. You have to make it "special". Otherwise, rather than last night's atmosphere, you'll have an empty Al and be at risk of a scrimmage atmosphere.
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Wish the buy games were at the Al. Those December cupcakes can be brutal, though they only have 1 this year. Crean and Buzz years there were like 5 or 6.
More conference and inter major conference play now then before.
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I would be careful about just blindly assigning all buy games to The Al. You have to make it "special". Otherwise, rather than last night's atmosphere, you'll have an empty Al and be at risk of a scrimmage atmosphere.
Agreed, but I think if they made one of the games student only then it would retain its novelty. The season tickets holders would also be more inclined to go to those cupcakes for the other games. Just look at the NIT. Not really worth talking about though as it’s not going to happen. Fiserv is a fantastic venue and MU is lucky to play there.
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5dollar
Spot on. It has to be a special event and done when it makes sense. It was great tonight and time to go to the Fiserv. Hopefully some young fans had a blast and head East for the remaining games. Tonight is how you build excitement.
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5dollar
Spot on. It has to be a special event and done when it makes sense. It was great tonight and time to go to the Fiserv. Hopefully some young fans had a blast and head East for the remaining games. Tonight is how you build excitement.
Spot on
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They wouldn't do that. Too much revenue lost. I could maybe see them doing it once a year for a guarantee game like tonight, but MU puts a lot of stock in attendance and this won't help it.
If they do one game a year at the Al and keep the season ticket price the same, aren’t they bringing in the same money and spending less by using the Fiserv for one fewer game?
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What’s the deal with Wrightsil?
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Joplin with a fun postgame interview.
Jop on Chase Ross: "that boy fast as S**t."
Jop's favorite dunk of the night: "Ben's (dunk), fellow wing, we have a real tight relationship, and he put his A** in the rim."
https://youtu.be/3NwwTJWddJc
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What’s the deal with Wrightsil?
Knee soreness, officially day to day
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Knee soreness, officially day to day
Expected to play Tuesday and back at practice this weekend per Shaka.
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That game was a blast to watch. It was especially fun seeing our youngest players show so well. Lots of energy and enthusiasm from the whole team all night, and a great crowd.
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Knee soreness, officially day to day
But then again, aren’t we all?
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Game was mostly awesome all around. One concern I did leave with was our interior defense. We let the Chips shoot 54.3% from two. And unlike the Radford game where they were hitting long contested twos, a lot of the Chips scoring was at the basket....and a lot of their misses had nothing to do with us and everything to do with them being terrible. And it wasn't their bigs. Their two main big guys went 2/9. It was their wings and guards being able to penetrate and us being unable to erase them when they got there.
Now some of that I'm sure is because we were whooping them from the word go so they got a little lax. But I imagine that this will be the focus of the film sessions before the next game.
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If they do one game a year at the Al and keep the season ticket price the same, aren’t they bringing in the same money and spending less by using the Fiserv for one fewer game?
If they do it for one game, they can probably justify it. Take 3-5 games off the STH schedule and there will be some pissed off donors.
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If they do it for one game, they can probably justify it. Take 3-5 games off the STH schedule and there will be some pissed off donors.
Isn't the season ticket price actually based on the total of the price of single - game tickets? If so, that means if you keep the season ticket price the same for fewer games, it raises the price for individual games and scares off the casual fans who only attend a game or two.
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TAMU
The interior D was not good last night and definitely a concern moving forward. I do think some of it had to do with having a big lead and getting sloppy, but they need to improve the interior D in a big way. On a positive note, an awful lot of excitement and highlights for a weeknight game against a low-end opponent on November 10th. There is going to be no shortage of excitement this season.
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Such a fun game. CMU was a weak opponent but opposed to our first game against Radford, we stomped on them and asserted ourselves. Great to see Joplin show everyone else what he's capable of. He's big and sturdy enough to take smaller guys inside while a good enough shooter to knock down anything outside.
I do hope Kam begins to develop that mid range game to make his outside shot even more dangerous. You saw it last night that kam struggled a bit with the quickness of the defense on closeouts. Never found his shot and wasn't very comfortable taking dribbles inside off the shot fake. For him to really succeed this year, he needs to get more comfortable getting into the paint. Will unlock a completely different game for him.
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Isn't the season ticket price actually based on the total of the price of single - game tickets? If so, that means if you keep the season ticket price the same for fewer games, it raises the price for individual games and scares off the casual fans who only attend a game or two.
My prices have only gone up, whether it's 19 home dates or 16 or something in between. That's one of the main reasons I was disappointed with the loss of the exhibition and CMU games. I paid the same for 15 dates this year as I did for 17 last year.
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I don't really mind about losing a game like CMU in the season ticket plan, especially if it produces a night like yesterday. I get season tix for games like Baylor, Wisconsin, Villanova and weekend conference games. I'd probably pay the same price even if they eliminated the garbage buy games.
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TAMU
The interior D was not good last night and definitely a concern moving forward. I do think some of it had to do with having a big lead and getting sloppy, but they need to improve the interior D in a big way. On a positive note, an awful lot of excitement and highlights for a weeknight game against a low-end opponent on November 10th. There is going to be shortage of excitement this season.
As much as I loved watching last night's game, I saw the same problem regarding interior D, but I think we all did. Agree that it's going to be a fun season.
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I don't really mind about losing a game like CMU in the season ticket plan, especially if it produces a night like yesterday. I get season tix for games like Baylor, Wisconsin, Villanova and weekend conference games. I'd probably pay the same price even if they eliminated the garbage buy games.
I like being able to bring my daughter to games, and she absolutely loves going to the ballgame with Daddy. But if I am going to be a respectful fan to my neighbors, I need to dedicate as much time to keeping the 4-year-old happy and respectful as I do watching the game. I love the buys and exhibitions because it lets me make her day with the trip while not requiring the attention I'd pay to a Wisconsin or Baylor.
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My prices have only gone up, whether it's 19 home dates or 16 or something in between. That's one of the main reasons I was disappointed with the loss of the exhibition and CMU games. I paid the same for 15 dates this year as I did for 17 last year.
I hope Broeker sends you a nice cheese and cracker spread this holiday season to accompany your whining.
Maybe start realizing that this isn’t about you?
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I like being able to bring my daughter to games, and she absolutely loves going to the ballgame with Daddy. But if I am going to be a respectful fan to my neighbors, I need to dedicate as much time to keeping the 4-year-old happy and respectful as I do watching the game. I love the buys and exhibitions because it lets me make her day with the trip while not requiring the attention I'd pay to a Wisconsin or Baylor.
Same boat so I understand - I bring my kids to women's games. They don't know the difference, it's cheaper and I don't feel as I'm missing out when my kids are more interested in Iggy and the band than the action on the court.
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Game was mostly awesome all around. One concern I did leave with was our interior defense. We let the Chips shoot 54.3% from two. And unlike the Radford game where they were hitting long contested twos, a lot of the Chips scoring was at the basket....and a lot of their misses had nothing to do with us and everything to do with them being terrible. And it wasn't their bigs. Their two main big guys went 2/9. It was their wings and guards being able to penetrate and us being unable to erase them when they got there.
Now some of that I'm sure is because we were whooping them from the word go so they got a little lax. But I imagine that this will be the focus of the film sessions before the next game.
...but will they be able to execute.
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I hope Broeker sends you a nice cheese and cracker spread this holiday season to accompany your whining.
Maybe start realizing that this isn’t about you?
Actually, it IS about me. It's about all the season ticket holders. We've already seen numbers decline in the past decade because the value hasn't been there. Many aren't coming back. If inventory drops as well, that's another reason to leave.
Marquette has been terrible at marketing their program. Terrible. Our social media accounts are poorly managed, communication is too little, too late, and eroding the value of the product we pay for is a poor answer.
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Actually, it IS about me.
Is it though?
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I hold onto one ticket, mainly because I live in Indianapolis. I have never once cared what the social medias are up to.
If you argue social media is a decline for walk up tickets…I’ll give it to you. But not a STH.
If it is an issue, there is always a smaller ticket package or single game tickets.
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Actually, it IS about me. It's about all the season ticket holders. We've already seen numbers decline in the past decade because the value hasn't been there. Many aren't coming back. If inventory drops as well, that's another reason to leave.
Marquette has been terrible at marketing their program. Terrible. Our social media accounts are poorly managed, communication is too little, too late, and eroding the value of the product we pay for is a poor answer.
What exactly would you like MU to do differently with their social media?
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What exactly would you like MU to do differently with their social media?
I think Marquette Basketball Social Media is pretty fantastic.
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Actually, it IS about me. It's about all the season ticket holders.
No offense but I'm guessing there are some STHs/donors that give waaaaaaaay more money that they'd be more inclined to listen to.
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Well, to be fair, brew may or may not have helped get the last guy fired. With his contribution to the cracked sidewalks missive.
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Actually, it IS about me. It's about all the season ticket holders. We've already seen numbers decline in the past decade because the value hasn't been there. Many aren't coming back. If inventory drops as well, that's another reason to leave.
Marquette has been terrible at marketing their program. Terrible. Our social media accounts are poorly managed, communication is too little, too late, and eroding the value of the product we pay for is a poor answer.
#NoMoreSweaterVests
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Well, to be fair, brew may or may not have helped get the last guy fired. With his contribution to the cracked sidewalks missive.
Lmao ::)
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Speaking of scheduling kerfuffles, how in the living Kolek does Jurassic World Cosplay have priority over Marquette in FiFo scheduling priority? Someone screwed the pooch on contract negotiations.
MU was third at the BC behind the Bucks and Admirals and we bitched. At Fiserv, it seems MU is behind Seasame Street Live even.
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What exactly would you like MU to do differently with their social media?
Well, the person that runs Twitter didn't even have a Twitter account when he got the job. You do a better job of promoting MU on there than they do. Far more interactions. Far more tweets. When you have an event like a block party before last night's game, mention it earlier than 24 hours before the game. The pics online show tens of people out enjoying themselves. Push it for 1-2 weeks, get more food truck options, you'll actually get people there.
They have a TikTok they never use. I'm not regularly on that app, but young alumni are. Use that to reach out to them. Focus on the staff, the players, and the events. Teach history and cool things that make the program worth following. Maybe have a Marquette Mondays where a player runs the account for 24 hours.
Push the other sports. Volleyball is the best program on campus and the main Marquette athletics barely acts like they exist, only posting post-match results and not hyping it beforehand. Which goes for many of the non-BB sports.
When it comes to emails, more frequency and more notice. They announce the picnic last minute then get virtually no attendance (just like last night's block party).
But the biggest problem is that Marquette treats customers just out Retire0 said. "It's not about you" is a terrible customer service mindset, but that's progressively how it's felt over the past decade as the on-court quality declined and the fans went away. And for the love of god, get Shaka out front more often pushing the program. He is a great speaker who could draw attention describing the process of paint drying. Hopefully Jen Lada gets more from him than Homer did, which was frankly embarrassing to hear a host with zero advanced statistical knowledge try to interview people like Smart and Smith.
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Same boat so I understand - I bring my kids to women's games. They don't know the difference, it's cheaper and I don't feel as I'm missing out when my kids are more interested in Iggy and the band than the action on the court.
#sexist
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Exhibitions versus secret scrimmages? It’s about better practice competition for the team to develop. Not your 4-year-old daughter getting to watch the dance team at the 8 minute TV timeout as you distractingly watch the team.
Doing away with midnight madness and Haunted Hoops? Better practice time for the team instead of showing off for the limited fans that show up.
You’ve developed a misplaced sense of entitlement with your blogger status. Let the professionals do their jobs, let Shaka steer the program.
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Well, the person that runs Twitter didn't even have a Twitter account when he got the job. You do a better job of promoting MU on there than they do. Far more interactions. Far more tweets. When you have an event like a block party before last night's game, mention it earlier than 24 hours before the game. The pics online show tens of people out enjoying themselves. Push it for 1-2 weeks, get more food truck options, you'll actually get people there.
They have a TikTok they never use. I'm not regularly on that app, but young alumni are. Use that to reach out to them. Focus on the staff, the players, and the events. Teach history and cool things that make the program worth following. Maybe have a Marquette Mondays where a player runs the account for 24 hours.
Push the other sports. Volleyball is the best program on campus and the main Marquette athletics barely acts like they exist, only posting post-match results and not hyping it beforehand. Which goes for many of the non-BB sports.
When it comes to emails, more frequency and more notice. They announce the picnic last minute then get virtually no attendance (just like last night's block party).
But the biggest problem is that Marquette treats customers just out Retire0 said. "It's not about you" is a terrible customer service mindset, but that's progressively how it's felt over the past decade as the on-court quality declined and the fans went away. And for the love of god, get Shaka out front more often pushing the program. He is a great speaker who could draw attention describing the process of paint drying. Hopefully Jen Lada gets more from him than Homer did, which was frankly embarrassing to hear a host with zero advanced statistical knowledge try to interview people like Smart and Smith.
100%
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Guys, Marquette needs to get on Truth Social more.
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#sexist
Can’t be true. Some of my favorite people are women
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More like #kidist.
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You’ve developed a misplaced sense of entitlement with your blogger status. Let the professionals do their jobs, let Shaka steer the program.
As soon as they start doing their jobs, I'll be happy to stop complaining about it.
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They have a webseries. Posted introductions to the new signees and the incoming players. They post in game highlights and post game highlights. They send out a digital game program. They post off-court content. They wish past and present players happy birthday. Tweet highlights of MU alum in the NBA. They send out where to watch and listen to games.
I'm not really sure what more they could do.
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As soon as they start doing their jobs, I'll be happy to stop complaining about it.
I’m sure you’ll find something new to move on to.
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Great video right on cue: https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1591196831027019776?s=20&t=pf1rViN82PB3CC89U39F_A
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As soon as they start doing their jobs, I'll be happy to stop complaining about it.
I hate to say it, but Cheeks ran the best STH engagement programs when he was here. Pintens upped the marketing levels as well.
Been so so since they moved on and certainly since COVID it's been lacking. I think some years we got 19 home games, now 15. At that point, I might as well buy two lower packs and not have to donate.
Cords and Cottingham used to have smaller STH donor events you'd get invited randomly to where they'd give you the state of the Union for example. Is it a big deal? I guess not but in a good-better-best pricing tier, there is not much differentiation as a consumer. But it creates a buzz.
And, it is a bit annoying they cannot provide lead time on events and if they are or not occurring.
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Did Homer’s radio show with Shaka get more than 25 total listeners? Crying that the athletic department is incompetent because they don’t have Homer asking Shaka about advanced analytics? Yeah, I’m sure that’s why season tickets are down!
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I hate to say it, but Cheeks ran the best STH engagement programs when he was here. Pintens upped the marketing levels as well.
Been so so since they moved on and certainly since COVID it's been lacking. I think some years we got 19 home games, now 15. At that point, I might as well buy two lower packs and not have to donate.
Cords and Cottingham used to have smaller STH donor events you'd get invited randomly to where they'd give you the state of the Union for example. Is it a big deal? I guess not but in a good-better-best pricing tier, there is not much differentiation as a consumer. But it creates a buzz.
And, it is a bit annoying they cannot provide lead time on events and if they are or not occurring.
I agree. It feels like at their best, they are trying to replicate things that worked well 10-20 years ago. At their worst, they are scaling back and offering less than what we had 10-20 years ago. But across the board, they are resting on the laurels of the 2002-2013 success. When you haven't won an NCAA game in a decade, you need to try a little harder. Doing less and expecting more money for it is simply not a recipe for success.
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Winning is the only thing that matters in terms of ticket sales. Can you pick up an extra 100 STHs by inviting people to a block party? Sure. But they could do 0 events if they were top 3 in the BE every year and it wouldn’t matter. Just like they could give out a free pizza to every person in attendance every game, with a signed basketball by the entire team, and Final Four team reunions every home game with them going around and high fiving everyone all game and the arena would be empty if we produced like Georgetown is.
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And if we win tourney games in each of the next five tourneys with a couple second or third weekend runs, then they'll be able to rest on those laurels. But since we have been doing nothing but lose in March for the past decade, they need to do more, not less to attract fans.
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And if we win tourney games in each of the next five tourneys with a couple second or third weekend runs, then they'll be able to rest on those laurels. But since we have been doing nothing but lose in March for the past decade, they need to do more, not less to attract fans.
Or do less pandering and let the team practice.
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Or do less pandering and let the team practice.
Yeah, because having Marquette Madness really hurt the 2003 team. or the 2013 team. Or any of the teams in between ::)
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It IS about the money, hey?
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Yeah, because having Marquette Madness really hurt the 2003 team. or the 2013 team. Or any of the teams in between ::)
Madness was a lot different and the anticipation was on another level. Thanks for finally circling back on my post though.
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What exactly would you like MU to do differently with their social media?
I think Marquette Basketball Social Media is pretty fantastic.
I agree...think they put out really good content, and A LOT of it. I personally hate content creation and think MU does a great job with its content creation creativity/variety/production/aesthetic/volume.
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My prices have only gone up, whether it's 19 home dates or 16 or something in between. That's one of the main reasons I was disappointed with the loss of the exhibition and CMU games. I paid the same for 15 dates this year as I did for 17 last year.
Last year and this season 16 regular season game. 17, last year adding an exhibition.
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We had 20 in 2018-19. 17 in 2020 and 2022. The last time we had this few was 2013-14.
If people choose not to care about what's in the season ticket holder package and just want to pay whatever Marquette charges for whatever Marquette schedules, that's your prerogative. But any assertion that this STH package with fewer games and fewer events isn't a downgrade from what we've had in the past is simply being dishonest. Again, if you don't care that they give you value for your money, that's your choice, but the value of the purchased product is not as high as it's been in any recent years.
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the value of the purchased product is not as high as it's been in any recent years.
Have you adjusted for inflation? (Which includes the firing of Wojo - which you called for - and Hiring of Shaka)
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The more higher level non conference games, wherever they are played, the better.
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We had 20 in 2018-19. 17 in 2020 and 2022. The last time we had this few was 2013-14.
If people choose not to care about what's in the season ticket holder package and just want to pay whatever Marquette charges for whatever Marquette schedules, that's your prerogative. But any assertion that this STH package with fewer games and fewer events isn't a downgrade from what we've had in the past is simply being dishonest. Again, if you don't care that they give you value for your money, that's your choice, but the value of the purchased product is not as high as it's been in any recent years.
It's about quality over quantity for me.
In 2018-2019, MU played K-State, Badgers, Buffalo and 9 conference games for a total of 12 quality games. I'm being very generous in including Buffalo in here because it was an absolute fluke of how good they were and how electric of a home game that turned out to be.
In 2022-2023, MU plays Baylor, Wisconsin and 10 conference games for a total of 12 quality games.
Even as a diehard fan who loves attending games, those schedules are the same to me and should have the same value in price. Those buy games are worth almost nothing and you'd have a hard time giving your tickets away for free to them.
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It's about quality over quantity for me.
In 2018-2019, MU played K-State, Badgers, Buffalo and 9 conference games for a total of 12 quality games. I'm being very generous in including Buffalo in here because it was an absolute fluke of how good they were and how electric of a home game that turned out to be.
In 2022-2023, MU plays Baylor, Wisconsin and 10 conference games for a total of 12 quality games.
Even as a diehard fan who loves attending games, those schedules are the same to me and should have the same value in price. Those buy games are worth almost nothing and you'd have a hard time giving your tickets away for free to them.
Buffalo was not a fluke. It was known that they were going to be a top25 team abs that's why they were scheduled
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Buffalo was not a fluke. It was known that they were going to be a top25 team abs that's why they were scheduled
Well, ok that's fair. It was a very unusual buy game to say the least. My point is that the number of quality home games Marquette plays is not that different year over year.
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Have you adjusted for inflation? (Which includes the firing of Wojo - which you called for - and Hiring of Shaka)
The firing of Wojo didn't come from STH dollars. And if the price was going up while the product value remained the same, fine, but that's not the case.
Well, ok that's fair. It was a very unusual buy game to say the least. My point is that the number of quality home games Marquette plays is not that different year over year.
Actually, at the time it wasn't. Buffalo wasn't a preseason top-25 team, but they were expected to be a conference favorite and easy top-100 team. It was the WVU win that really catapulted them up. But that was in a stretch with games like Belmont, Fresno, Vermont, and North Dakota State at home, all expected top-100 buy games. So that's additional value lost as everyone this year was sub-250 preseason.
I guess to each their own, but for me Marquette basketball is a year-round hobby. I enjoy the exhibition games, the buy games, the preseason kickoff events, and all the other events that have been put on the back burner or shelved and not replaced. If you want to overpay for 12 games, that's your choice, but I'm not going to pretend the value isn't eroding when it obviously is.
And that's the thing. There's no real disagreement that we aren't getting less for more. The only argument seems to be "shut up and accept what you get." And that's a crappy argument.
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I think Country Roads made the argument. He cares about the quality of the slate - the BE plus the marquee games - and doesn’t care how many buy games there really are. He isn’t saying “shut up and accept it.” He’s saying “I don’t care cause the buy games have little value to me.” I don’t think he’s alone.
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The bigger issue for me is not the number of games, or who they play, but the way the game experience at Fiserv has eroded post-COVID. Being charged a premium for a mediocre and inconvenient experience. The concession setup is a joke. Marquette, as a tenant that pays a fckload in rent every year, needs to be up the Bucks ass if they aren't already.
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The bigger issue for me is not the number of games, or who they play, but the way the game experience at Fiserv has eroded post-COVID. Being charged a premium for a mediocre and inconvenient experience. The concession setup is a joke. Marquette, as a tenant that pays a fckload in rent every year, needs to be up the Bucks ass if they aren't already.
Yuuuuuuuup. This isn’t limited to Fiserv. I’m not sure why this is happening but the gameday experiences across the board have gotten bad the last few years. My desire to go to a random game is quite low and it isn’t the product. I’ve seen a lot of mediocre Marquette in my life and crappy Bucks teams. That didn’t stop me from going
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The firing of Wojo didn't come from STH dollars. And if the price was going up while the product value remained the same, fine, but that's not the case.
Actually, at the time it wasn't. Buffalo wasn't a preseason top-25 team, but they were expected to be a conference favorite and easy top-100 team. It was the WVU win that really catapulted them up. But that was in a stretch with games like Belmont, Fresno, Vermont, and North Dakota State at home, all expected top-100 buy games. So that's additional value lost as everyone this year was sub-250 preseason.
I guess to each their own, but for me Marquette basketball is a year-round hobby. I enjoy the exhibition games, the buy games, the preseason kickoff events, and all the other events that have been put on the back burner or shelved and not replaced. If you want to overpay for 12 games, that's your choice, but I'm not going to pretend the value isn't eroding when it obviously is.
And that's the thing. There's no real disagreement that we aren't getting less for more. The only argument seems to be "shut up and accept what you get." And that's a crappy argument.
Byyyyyeeeeeeee.
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I think Country Roads made the argument. He cares about the quality of the slate - the BE plus the marquee games - and doesn’t care how many buy games there really are. He isn’t saying “shut up and accept it.” He’s saying “I don’t care cause the buy games have little value to me.” I don’t think he’s alone.
He can buy the packs then which I will be doing unless there is more value added for STHs. 25% less games for a higher price and less experience leads to a tipping point in consumer value for season ticket holders. I spend $10k now for tickets so I am happy to cut that to $632 for 10 games by buying the packs.
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The bigger issue for me is not the number of games, or who they play, but the way the game experience at Fiserv has eroded post-COVID. Being charged a premium for a mediocre and inconvenient experience. The concession setup is a joke. Marquette, as a tenant that pays a fckload in rent every year, needs to be up the Bucks ass if they aren't already.
Agreed. I remember the first year being excited to have seats by the Jack Daniel’s bar, and then it hardly ever being open. The lack of concessions for even marquee games is crazy.
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Agreed. I remember the first year being excited to have seats by the Jack Daniel’s bar, and then it hardly ever being open. The lack of concessions for even marquee games is crazy.
I only go to two games a year as I am out of state. But that is pretty bad. Why wouldn’t they have concessions open for a stadium that is usually 3/4 full and sometimes sold out. MU should complain loudly about that.
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Great video right on cue: https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1591196831027019776?s=20&t=pf1rViN82PB3CC89U39F_A
Damn that’s awesome
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Damn that’s awesome
Now where's the volleyball video?
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Now where's the volleyball video?
Only crappy highlights
https://youtu.be/ehQD4YMs4Sk
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Agreed. I remember the first year being excited to have seats by the Jack Daniel’s bar, and then it hardly ever being open. The lack of concessions for even marquee games is crazy.
My guess is that they are having trouble finding workers more than anything.
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He can buy the packs then which I will be doing unless there is more value added for STHs. 25% less games for a higher price and less experience leads to a tipping point in consumer value for season ticket holders. I spend $10k now for tickets so I am happy to cut that to $632 for 10 games by buying the packs.
Which makes sense to me and completely understand.
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My guess is that they are having trouble finding workers more than anything.
No it’s to spite brew
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#TEV
Team Eroding Value
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Yeah, because having Marquette Madness really hurt the 2003 team. or the 2013 team. Or any of the teams in between ::)
I get it. Madness is/was an annual thing, but I really miss college game day which Crean brought to MU. Too bad Fox does not have something similar.
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100%
i’d add that when FF opened, the momentum around the program that I thought would be there never really materialized, imo. Team wasn’t great, but not bad. Great team, new great venue, uptick in recruiting talent = momentum/excitement was missing, it seemed. There’s more excitement after a game at The AL! Winning is a cure-all so hopefully the W’s will stack up. And, getting a couple W’s between the likes of Purdue, ND, Wisconsin and Baylor would be big momentum builders.
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There’s more excitement after a game at The AL!
Thousands of students. Zero sweater-vests. Offensive show vs. cupcake.
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My guess is that they are having trouble finding workers more than anything.
That’s fair, although I’d say it was an issue before the pandemic too.
Overall, I’m not too worried about losing a game to the Al every year if it is a buy game. I don’t make it to every game as it is.
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My guess is that they are having trouble finding workers more than anything.
I thought that was the case too. But the Bucks want this online ordering/central delivery model so they don't have to pay to staff each stand.
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We need more bobbleheads. What happened to the bobbleheads?
Milwaukee is home to the National Bobblehead Hall of Fame & Museum, how is Marquette not embracing this opportunity?
Do your jobs, Marquette.
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We need more bobbleheads. What happened to the bobbleheads?
Ha! I know you are kidding but for young families they were great. It’s part of brainwashing young kids to be future life long fans.
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Ha! I know you are kidding but for young families they were great. It’s part of brainwashing young kids to be future life long fans.
Maybe they don't have them anymore because students were decapitating the Father Wild ones and drinking shots out of his head.
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Maybe they don't have them anymore because students were decapitating the Father Wild ones and drinking shots out of his head.
That’s fair. Didn’t know that. Was just saying younger kids liked them. I know mine did.
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Maybe they don't have them anymore because students were decapitating the Father Wild ones and drinking shots out of his head.
OH THE HORROR!
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Seems like Marquette missed another marketing (marquetting?) opportunity by not stocking the spirit shop with "wild" shot glasses.
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OH THE HORROR!
I thought it was funny, but maybe the PTB didn't
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I thought it was funny, but maybe the PTB didn't
It does sound very on brand.
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Another example of why Marquette's social media efforts are pathetic. This week, Marquette faces a top-10 Baylor team at home in MBB and has home NCAA Tournament games for volleyball. What has Marquette done to promote this and sell tickets on Cyber Monday?
Instagram: MBB has nothing about the Baylor game, VB hasn't posted since before the Big East Tournament, and MU Athletics hasn't posted since before the NCAA Volleyball Selection Show.
Twitter: MBB's only promotion was for games starting in mid-December. They finally mentioned the Baylor game at 2:47 pm, after their negligence to promote this had been mentioned by multiple accounts but did not offer a ticket sales link. VB finally posted the ticket sales link at 3:22 pm. MU Athletics shared the ticket link at the same time as VB.
Email: Nothing about Baylor. VB offer came out at 8:43 last night, so they had it ready to go but for some reason waited to promote it on Cyber freaking Monday.
Quite simply, they suck at this.
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What about tik tok? That's where all the kids are now days
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What about tik tok? That's where all the kids are now days
Nothing. Most recent post from MBB was about Juan Anderson. Athletics and Volleyball don't have accounts, though individual VB players do.
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Another example of why Marquette's social media efforts are pathetic. This week, Marquette faces a top-10 Baylor team at home in MBB and has home NCAA Tournament games for volleyball. What has Marquette done to promote this and sell tickets on Cyber Monday?
Instagram: MBB has nothing about the Baylor game, VB hasn't posted since before the Big East Tournament, and MU Athletics hasn't posted since before the NCAA Volleyball Selection Show.
Twitter: MBB's only promotion was for games starting in mid-December. They finally mentioned the Baylor game at 2:47 pm, after their negligence to promote this had been mentioned by multiple accounts but did not offer a ticket sales link. VB finally posted the ticket sales link at 3:22 pm. MU Athletics shared the ticket link at the same time as VB.
Email: Nothing about Baylor. VB offer came out at 8:43 last night, so they had it ready to go but for some reason waited to promote it on Cyber freaking Monday.
Quite simply, they suck at this.
Thankfully, Broeker jumped in to assure us that the marketing staff is working very hard.
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Quite simply, they suck at this.
Agree that their efforts have been pathetic. At least from what I can see as a consumer.
Though, I’m interested most in seeing the student turnout. If it’s less than 95% full, then that’s a huge disappointment.
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It could have been better, but they decided to pull their advertising from twitter.
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I got the "Be a Student" Cyber Monday message this AM. Not a bad deal, btw. $50 for four Big East break games.
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i’d add that when FF opened, the momentum around the program that I thought would be there never really materialized, imo. Team wasn’t great, but not bad. Great team, new great venue, uptick in recruiting talent = momentum/excitement was missing, it seemed. There’s more excitement after a game at The AL! Winning is a cure-all so hopefully the W’s will stack up. And, getting a couple W’s between the likes of Purdue, ND, Wisconsin and Baylor would be big momentum builders.
I was so excited for the Fiserv & to get an arena built for basketball. But maybe someone can help me understand this -- between a sold-out BC and a sold-out Fiserv -- somehow the BC seemed way louder and more alive. And this is coming from someone who attended Game 6 of the NBA Finals at Fiserv (humblebrag).
Additionally, there's way less of ... everything. Timeouts are a snore. How many times can we watch a dog catch a frisbee or something at halftime? The place is absolutely dead most of the time.
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Time for brew to get the Marquette Social Media Director job … and time for MU to get an on-campus arena that won’t be absolutely dead!
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Ok so here's my thoughts. If MU is doing paid social then anyone who has their social platform settings to "hot" (or equivalent trending etc) should see it multiple times. If they're smart they have a dashboard measuring reach and repeat touches and finally would have a metric of conversion rate of views/click that could be adjusted to remove first time viewers (who were likely going to purchase anyways). They should also have an adobe path flow chart of Social entries and what the conversion is, if it's low then I don't see the point in greater paid social campaigns.
Now if theyre not treating this as a paid social campaign and just posting as an ordinary page then Brew's 100% correct that there should be wayyy more posts to help improve general consideration (maybe it doesn't achieve conversion here but down the line).
It's certainly plausible that MU is banking in Fox's publicity that the game will already be well known and perhaps Fox is contracted to send them analytics on MU marketing as well?
Regarding emails, I'd imagine those are essentially warm leads. Anyone who's on that list previously attended an MU game so they might think "well theyre already inclined to go" probably not the best thought process to have from an Emarketing perspective but that might be why there's not much there.
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I took my 4 year old to the Chicago State game on Saturday and usually she's very into the games, she leads chants of We Are!" and gets very excited. However, this time she was pretty quiet after the start of the game and about 10 minutes into the game she leans in very close and whispers to me "Why is it so quiet?" and followed up saying she wants to yell.
I know this is a terrible opponent on Thanksgiving weekend, but it was a Saturday night game... expected a little more.
Not to mention, she LOVES getting popcorn at the games. Last year they had a popcorn stand open for all games on the 200 level. It was closed on Saturday, so I had to use the Bucks app to order... only to have it tell me popcorn was in a 100 level section. So we trekked it down to 100 level and back up (after just walked quite a ways from where we parked because the escalators are not convenient to the skywalk bridge) and she was pooped out... only to find popcorn was right at the concessions behind our section. WTH, why did the app send me downstairs?! I hate the concession ordering at the FF...
She still had a great time, but the Fiserv has not be a value add for us lately.
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Title thread should change to Mope Thread
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Title thread should change to Mope Thread
No kidding….. if you dont like it so quiet….stand up and yell.
Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch.
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Concessions at FF is a joke.
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I was at the game Saturday and it was really quiet, but mostly because there were only a couple hundred students there. The sweatervests were their usually moderate selves for a November buy game at +27 points. I made some noise on a coupla dunks that got me out of my seat.
I have to agree on the Fiserv's food/drink service. It's awful and super inconvenient. It took my buddy, a guy in his 50s, almost a half hour to get food due to the app not working for him. He had help from people at the stand, but they refused (or were unable) to conduct a credit card transaction outside of the Bucks App ordering system. Ridiculous. Granted, he's a UWM grad... (LOL)
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Some of you clearly need to head to the Wintrust more. It'll really make you appreciate the concessions we have.
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Some of you clearly need to head to the Wintrust more. It'll really make you appreciate the concessions we have.
So true……..now Wintrust is a joke.
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Students were on Thanksgiving break and about 800 fervent and sun burned Vesties were in SWF. Hell, if I was leaving 85 degree weather for the Chicago Teacher College game.
I did my loyal duty, however, and gave my tickets away to willing takers and loyal MU fans.
As to the BC vs. FiFo, I think two things. The BC had a lot fewer seats in the lower bowl, so even for the cupcakes, it would get loud (and it was easier to keep the concentration of concessions open). Two, the FF student bow tie and the expanded BE schedule means there are many games that are very empty in the lowers as the students are not there.
Yes, Marquette tries to fill those seats during Xmas, but there are also mid term, spring break, and Thanksgiving breaks were those seats are not filled. At the BC, those were filled by season ticket holders under one basket at least.
Then there is COVID...
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No kidding….. if you dont like it so quiet….stand up and yell.
Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch.
Out of curiosity, were you at the game Saturday?
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I took my 4 year old to the Chicago State game on Saturday and usually she's very into the games, she leads chants of We Are!" and gets very excited. However, this time she was pretty quiet after the start of the game and about 10 minutes into the game she leans in very close and whispers to me "Why is it so quiet?" and followed up saying she wants to yell.
I know this is a terrible opponent on Thanksgiving weekend, but it was a Saturday night game... expected a little more.
Not to mention, she LOVES getting popcorn at the games. Last year they had a popcorn stand open for all games on the 200 level. It was closed on Saturday, so I had to use the Bucks app to order... only to have it tell me popcorn was in a 100 level section. So we trekked it down to 100 level and back up (after just walked quite a ways from where we parked because the escalators are not convenient to the skywalk bridge) and she was pooped out... only to find popcorn was right at the concessions behind our section. WTH, why did the app send me downstairs?! I hate the concession ordering at the FF...
She still had a great time, but the Fiserv has not be a value add for us lately.
You know, every four year old needs to learn the lessons that not every Marquette game is a festival and sometimes you just gotta walk to get your popcorn. Life is hard sometimes.
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Does MU do anything with groups (companies, high schools, non-profits, etc.) to do outings?
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Title thread should change to Mope Thread Mopin' 'bout the FF
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One year, didn't Marquette give tickets to Milwaukee HS during breaks to fill the Bradley Center and introduce MUBB to possible new/future MUBB fans?
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One year, didn't Marquette give tickets to Milwaukee HS during breaks to fill the Bradley Center and introduce MUBB to possible new/future MUBB fans?
They did…..but the kids left crying because their food apps didn’t work. They will never come back.
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You know, every four year old needs to learn the lessons that not every Marquette game is a festival and sometimes you just gotta walk to get your popcorn. Life is hard sometimes.
HAHA yeah, this is true. I think the Bucks owners know I coddle her too much and just wanted to help toughen her up both physically (in the 15 minute round trip walk) and mentally (missing the start of the game).
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They did…..but the kids left crying because their food apps didn’t work. They will never come back.
And they all got shot, so it was pointless since dead people can only vote
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Title thread should change to Mope Thread
After the last ten years I think they should change MUScoop to MUMope. If you want to stop the Mope; Win, Convincingly!
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I think if you were to graph MU fandom over the past ~decade years, you'd see a steady decline.
Fiserv + Wojo + Covid sent a material chunk of MU fans onto an apathetic path. Not to mention so many years of students who graduated not ever seeing meaningful victories in March = fewer young fans ready to plunk down dough for real seats.
MU could have promoted the living daylights out of the Baylor game and it would have generated maybe a couple hundred more sales.
Across the nation, across all sports, too many fans have fallen out of love with witnessing live sports.
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And they all got shot, so it was pointless since dead people can only vote
didn't think you could hit another low point reeeko, but -10/10 brutally bad. references (i think) to campus crime and making fun of it? tell that to idaho students and parents. voting? uh uh uhhh...politics are a rocky no-no.
trying to hard to be class clown
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didn't think you could hit another low point reeeko, but -10/10 brutally bad. references (i think) to campus crime and making fun of it? tell that to idaho students and parents. voting? uh uh uhhh...politics are a rocky no-no.
trying to hard to be class clown
You’re not very good at this.
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didn't think you could hit another low point reeeko, but -10/10 brutally bad. references (i think) to campus crime and making fun of it? tell that to idaho students and parents. voting? uh uh uhhh...politics are a rocky no-no.
trying to hard to be class clown
Seriously?