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Title: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: brewcity77 on November 01, 2022, 06:36:40 AM
The Friars won the 2022 Big East* but five starters from that team are gone. Will Cooley pull off transfer magic again?

https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2022/11/providence-preview-2022-23.html?m=1
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: mubb3434 on December 19, 2022, 04:21:10 PM
Looks like MU opens up -1 for this one
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: NCMUFan on December 19, 2022, 05:08:31 PM
Someone has to win. 
Hope it is Marquette!
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 19, 2022, 05:09:34 PM
Someone has to win. 
Hope it is Marquette!

Providence covers this one easy
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: Newsdreams on December 19, 2022, 05:52:26 PM
Providence covers this one easy
Unfortunately no ties like in regular soccer matches.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: NCMUFan on December 19, 2022, 07:48:57 PM
Providence starts three redshirt seniors.
Definitely has the experience advantage.
Hopefully well coached and motivated prevails for Marquette.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: tower912 on December 19, 2022, 07:53:31 PM
Providence beat Seton Hall by attacking the paint and attacking the offensive boards.    Going to be a different kind of challenge than ND or Creighton.   
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: mileskishnish72 on December 19, 2022, 08:00:55 PM
They are an excellent offensive rebounding team that could create problems and wear out our defense. We are not a strong rebounding team.
We'll have to rebound by committee to try to stave them off. They don't defend as well as we do - if we get the shots to drop, we can do this.
Hope my first visit to the AMP results in a big fat MU win.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: wadesworld on December 20, 2022, 12:06:38 AM
We had a bat disrupt the game at our place. We had a human disrupt the game at their place. And we played on an ice skating rink in a game we decided not to call travels for a half at their place. And we had a game delayed by a game for a snow storm at their place. What will it be tomorrow?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: Daniel on December 20, 2022, 12:35:51 AM
We had a bat disrupt the game at our place. We had a human disrupt the game at their place. And we played on an ice skating rink in a game we decided not to call travels for a half at their place. And we had a game delayed by a game for a snow storm at their place. What will it be tomorrow?

A Golden Eagle swoops into the building and feasts on Friars?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: brewcity77 on December 20, 2022, 06:00:29 AM
I'm interested to see their offensive rebounding. They look like an elite unit on paper, but they have yet to face a defense that rebounds the ball as well as we do.

That's not to say we're a great defensive rebounding team, but they have faced some truly wretched opposition to build their top-10 offensive rebounding rank.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: NCMUFan on December 20, 2022, 07:31:14 AM
It will take a complete team effort to win. 9 or 10 eagles playing flat out for 40 minutes or more.
Can Oso and O-Max get the upper hand on Hopkins and Croswell?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: DegenerateDish on December 20, 2022, 08:27:50 AM
Under 149.5
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: #UnleashSean on December 20, 2022, 08:32:29 AM
A Golden Eagle swoops into the building and feasts on Friars?

I think we left that cgi abomination at home.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 20, 2022, 08:57:23 AM
I've watched a few Friars games this season. Their general offensive strategy is to:

1. Get points in transition (Hopkins in particular is electric in transition)
2. Drive wildly towards the hoop and throw it up hoping for a foul or offensive rebound
3. Have Bynum penetrate and kick or dump off to a camped out Croswell or Hopkins
4. Dump it into Croswell and hope he can score on his own (he doesn't pass out of the post)

Don't turn it over (we're the second best ball protecting team they've played, they lost to the top one, SLU) and I'm not sure they can score enough to win. Bynum this season has been like a last season Kolek, very deadly passing but a limited threat to score. When he drives, we need to stay home on his teammates. Do that and chances are he'll biff the layup or throw it away. If Oso/Omax leave Croswell/Hopkins to help, Bynum will find them for easy dunks. I would hard double Croswell when he puts the ball on the floor. Once he dribbles, he's putting up a shot come hell or high triple team.

As Brew mentioned, their offensive rebounding numbers may be a mirage. They've played a slate of truly terrible defensive rebounding teams to start the season: 276th, 197th, 319th, 289th, 121st, 361st, 274th, 178th, 191st, 356th, 253rd, and 229th. For comparison, we're 162nd in DR%, making us the second best defensive rebounding team they've face (they lost to the first, SLU again). This may have inflated their numbers a bit or maybe they are the real deal and they can't help who they play. I'm more concerned with them racking up a lot of fouls on us. They are top 45 in that category and we've been foul prone at times.

Defensively, they pack the paint and hope you don't beat them outside. We'll need our shooters to hit shots in order to open up room for drivers. Big things on this side of the ball is to not turn it over to limit their transition points. Even if are shots aren't falling, I think we can win a defensive slugfest.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: 🏀 on December 20, 2022, 09:09:06 AM
I've watched a few Friars games this season. Their general offensive strategy is to:

1. Get points in transition (Hopkins in particular is electric in transition)
2. Drive wildly towards the hoop and throw it up hoping for a foul or offensive rebound
3. Have Bynum penetrate and kick or dump off to a camped out Croswell or Hopkins
4. Dump it into Croswell and hope he can score on his own (he doesn't pass out of the post)

Don't turn it over (we're the second best ball protecting team they've played, they lost to the top one, SLU) and I'm not sure they can score enough to win. Bynum this season has been like a last season Kolek, very deadly passing but a limited threat to score. When he drives, we need to stay home on his teammates. Do that and chances are he'll biff the layup or throw it away. If Oso/Omax leave Croswell/Hopkins to help, Bynum will find them for easy dunks. I would hard double Croswell when he puts the ball on the floor. Once he dribbles, he's putting up a shot come hell or high triple team.

As Brew mentioned, their offensive rebounding numbers may be a mirage. They've played a slate of truly terrible defensive rebounding teams to start the season: 276th, 197th, 319th, 289th, 121st, 361st, 274th, 178th, 191st, 356th, 253rd, and 229th. For comparison, we're 162nd in DR%, making us the second best defensive rebounding team they've face (they lost to the first, SLU again). This may have inflated their numbers a bit or maybe they are the real deal and they can't help who they play. I'm more concerned with them racking up a lot of fouls on us. They are top 45 in that category and we've been foul prone at times.

Defensively, they pack the paint and hope you don't beat them outside. We'll need our shooters to hit shots in order to open up room for drivers. Big things on this side of the ball is to not turn it over to limit their transition points. Even if are shots aren't falling, I think we can win a defensive slugfest.

Basically, you're saying MU needs to be more like SLU to win?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: panda on December 20, 2022, 09:17:18 AM
PC game preview with a famous Marquette fan

Interview starts at 22 minutes

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7ktxzBud0x0WoNrdVdxpVo
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 20, 2022, 09:20:05 AM
Providence now a 1 go 1.5 point favorite depending on where you look.

Around 75% of the bets on Marquette.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: jfp61 on December 20, 2022, 09:46:23 AM
Providence is a weird matchup for Marquette. They always play better in the big east. They typically win close. They offensive rebound really well. Providence is more similar to Mississippi State than any other MU opponent, but their opponents have sucked at defensive rebounding so i don't know how real it is.

Providence has been mildly "unlucky" with in game Luck so far. By that i mean their opponents have shot well from the free throw line and from three.  Their opponents have been made providence 239th in defensive 3FG% despite being 49th in 3PA/FGM. That's a really high percentage of threes made despite denying attempts relatively well. Also Providence is are 356th in FT% defense. Marquette's free throw percentage is one of their few offensive weaknesses, and Marquette is an average three point shooting team (and a little above average without Kam's moon balls.)

It's probably one of the tougher mid conference matchups. Just gotta shoot well from 3 and the FT line.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: Milkshakes on December 20, 2022, 11:03:46 AM
I’m concerned that this might be the first game we see Oso in foul trouble. Hopefully not too early in the game.

Also, I do think free throws will matter tonight despite conventional Scoop wisdom…
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: barfolomew on December 20, 2022, 11:22:24 AM
Folks, it doesn't matter what Marquette does or what Providence does tonight.
Steve Lappas is on the call.

We all lose.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 20, 2022, 12:01:19 PM
Folks, it doesn't matter what Marquette does or what Providence does tonight.
Steve Lappas is on the call.

We all lose.

I was going to say the same thing. Noticed it a bit ago. Bummer
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: panda on December 20, 2022, 12:58:39 PM
Pc stinks. Marquette by at least 8
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: nyg on December 20, 2022, 12:59:05 PM
I’m concerned that this might be the first game we see Oso in foul trouble. Hopefully not too early in the game.

Also, I do think free throws will matter tonight despite conventional Scoop wisdom…

I have the same thoughts, but also to include Omax.  Joplin will be the first in if either gets in early foul trouble, then probably Gold.  Those guys would really have to step it up, especially Gold, who also is prone to foul issues. 

I also believe Oso could get Croswell in foul trouble with his offensive moves.  Comes down to who gets them first. 
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: Viper on December 20, 2022, 03:24:59 PM
I was going to say the same thing. Noticed it a bit ago. Bummer
radio or on-line, go w/TSmith & Homer.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 20, 2022, 03:34:05 PM
A couple of announcers were saying Hopkins may be the most pro-ready prospect in the Big East.  I don't know a ton about his game other than he looked really really good against Seton Hall.

This could be a tough matchup for OMax and Jop.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: MuggsyB on December 20, 2022, 03:50:10 PM
I'm hoping someone is on top of things and doing a semi play by play on the game thread.  My stupid flight is delayed.  Beyond inexcusable.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: 🏀 on December 20, 2022, 04:00:15 PM
https://twitter.com/kingcarter2225/status/1605309580438900736?s=46&t=JG9G89L0vTlccGM6QmM11g
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: tower912 on December 20, 2022, 04:06:28 PM
I'm hoping someone is on top of things and doing a semi play by play on the game thread.  My stupid flight is delayed.  Beyond inexcusable.

Elonsmusk will accuse you of not being a real fan.    ::)


   Safe travels.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: NCMUFan on December 20, 2022, 04:11:29 PM
https://twitter.com/kingcarter2225/status/1605309580438900736?s=46&t=JG9G89L0vTlccGM6QmM11g
That twitter should fire up Marquette.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: DoctorV on December 20, 2022, 05:07:14 PM
A couple of announcers were saying Hopkins may be the most pro-ready prospect in the Big East.  I don't know a ton about his game other than he looked really really good against Seton Hall.

This could be a tough matchup for OMax and Jop.

Haven’t seen Providence play yet this year but after doing some digging it seems like this Hopkins kid from oak park can really ball.

This might be OMax biggest/most important defensive assignment on the young season.

Time to earn that rep on the defensive end and show some scouts that he’s better than that guy on both ends if he wants to turn some more heads his way.

Would also be nice if Wrightsil came back tonight, any news on that?
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 20, 2022, 05:13:13 PM
Haven’t seen Providence play yet this year but after doing some digging it seems like this Hopkins kid from oak park can really ball.

This might be OMax biggest/most important defensive assignment on the young season.

Time to earn that rep on the defensive end and show some scouts that he’s better than that guy on both ends if he wants to turn some more heads his way.

Would also be nice if Wrightsil came back tonight, any news on that?

So much potential and went to Fenwick 👎
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: DegenerateDish on December 20, 2022, 05:17:04 PM
I know this is a ridiculous ask because it’s on CBSSN, does anyone know if the Reddit stream thread still exists? Or if anyone knows of a decent stream? I’m stuck in the hospital after a minor procedure this afternoon, and needless to say, their cable channel package isn’t thrilling. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: BM1090 on December 20, 2022, 05:34:50 PM
I know this is a ridiculous ask because it’s on CBSSN, does anyone know if the Reddit stream thread still exists? Or if anyone knows of a decent stream? I’m stuck in the hospital after a minor procedure this afternoon, and needless to say, their cable channel package isn’t thrilling. Thanks in advance.

Check your PMs
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: Daniel on December 20, 2022, 05:37:28 PM
I know this is a ridiculous ask because it’s on CBSSN, does anyone know if the Reddit stream thread still exists? Or if anyone knows of a decent stream? I’m stuck in the hospital after a minor procedure this afternoon, and needless to say, their cable channel package isn’t thrilling. Thanks in advance.

Not sure if this will work but saw this:

Live Stream: CBSSports.com or fuboTV (Try for free. Regional restrictions may apply.)

Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: DoctorV on December 20, 2022, 06:03:09 PM
Zach appeared to be dressed and worming up. Hopefully he can have a positive impact if needed
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: tower912 on December 20, 2022, 06:06:17 PM
Zach appeared to be dressed and worming up. Hopefully he can have a positive impact if needed

Worming up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8mmBGWv9iM
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: Magnum on December 20, 2022, 10:36:45 PM
Providence now a 1 go 1.5 point favorite depending on where you look.

Around 75% of the bets on Marquette.

If 75% of the bets were on Marquette but the line shifted from MU -2 to MU +1.5 there must have been some big money put on the Friars. Now the FT difference makes sense. 😕
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 21, 2022, 03:41:32 PM
Before we turn the page on the awful Providence result, I wanna take a second to appreciate the dominant performance of Tyler Kolek.

He went home where a lot of people who once loved watching him play are now rooting against him and put up 29, 5, and 5. Pretty spectacular stuff.  Saw a postgame interview where he was teared up almost unable to speak.  Really cool to see.  I'm sure he's gutted that they couldn't hang on.  I hope he leads this team to the Tournament and we get a 3rd game against Providence at MSG where he can beat them on the biggest stage.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: NCMUFan on December 21, 2022, 03:43:55 PM
I like that positive thinking.
We for sure get them in MKE.
Title: Re: [Cracked Sidewalks] Providence Preview
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on December 21, 2022, 03:47:05 PM
Before we turn the page on the awful Providence result, I wanna take a second to appreciate the dominant performance of Tyler Kolek.

He went home where a lot of people who once loved watching him play are now rooting against him and put up 29, 5, and 5. Pretty spectacular stuff.  Saw a postgame interview where he was teared up almost unable to speak.  Really cool to see.  I'm sure he's gutted that they couldn't hang on.  I hope he leads this team to the Tournament and we get a 3rd game against Providence at MSG where he can beat them on the biggest stage.

In case anyone didn't see...

Damnit I wish they pulled that one out...

https://twitter.com/IanSteeleABC6/status/1605433061923061761?t=TwcW8vZ4BVxIJw7iYP5BUQ&s=19