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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: JakeBarnes on October 27, 2022, 02:31:52 PM
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This is the thread for people who are going to the open gym to tell us whether we can be COLEs, MOPES or those with HOPES.
I expect a walking boot count, heavy monitoring of how well slapping of fives are, and a vote for who wins the Magic Dawson award. Bonus points will be awarded if you can locate Sacar.
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Bonus points will be awarded if you can locate Sacar.
https://twitter.com/tripledoublesm/status/1577770667235315713
He's playing for Pallac Reggiana in Regio Emilia, Italy
Give me my bonus points ;D
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Looking forward to the practice tonight.
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Looking forward to the practice tonight.
Excited to hear all about it. We're so close to meaningful games!
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Who's streaming it for us?
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Cost of a Budweiser?
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COLEs, MOPES or those with HOPES.
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Or KenPomer’s ?
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How have we looked tonight?
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Marquette won.
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Marquette won.
Haha—well done.
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You guys are going to be screaming "REBOUND!!" a lot this year.
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Marquette won.
Undefeated since April Fool’s Day!
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What's the verdict this evening?
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Chase Ross can dunk
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Ben Gold isn't it.
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Ben Gold isn't it.
Sweet Jesus. Details? Is there hope down the line?
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Ben Gold isn't it.
Is it too late to replace him with Jose Perez?
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This team is better than ninth in the Big East, how much will depend on their commitment to rebounding the ball and keeping teams out of the paint defensively.
Kam and Tyler have put on noticeable weight and were willing to drive and take on contact at the rim. In my opinion, Kam has taken the biggest step forward of anyone on the team. Still not a great defender yet, but definitely a more committed defender. Tyler’s shot looks improved. More arc with less side spin, hit all three attempts within the game. He’s a clear leader of the team, I’m excited to see him continue to grow in that role.
Oso was the other player that really stood out as taking a step forward. Oso made multiple passes tonight that big guys are typically incapable of doing, both off the dribble and off the catch. His vision is special and Shaka mentioned again that Oso will handle the ball as much as anyone else on the team. Oso will have to stay out of foul trouble and stay healthy because there isn’t much help behind him at the 5. Keeyan is so athletic, but still needs to put on some size to play in the BE.
All three freshman will likely play, but especially Sean Jones and Chase Ross, as I believe their defense is closer to BE caliber right now than Ben Gold’s. I’m excited to see how these guys complement what the team already has. In a perfect world, Gold would probably RS to build up some more size but with the lack of frontline depth, I think he’ll get some minutes.
I don’t know where they will finish in the conference, but I’m positive they are not a 9th place team.
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The Mopes catch phrase.
Ben Gold isn't it.
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Ben Gold isn't it.
oh no, the tenth man looks like a tenth man
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Sweet Jesus. Details? Is there hope down the line?
Dude, you gotta have a little awareness of who you are replying to
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Sweet Jesus. Details? Is there hope down the line?
Muggsy, when NoLongerWarriors, says:
You guys are going to be screaming "REBOUND!!" a lot this year.
he means "you guys" as Marquette fans. Meaning he doesn't count himself amongst Marquette fans.
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Keeyan is so athletic, but still needs to put on some size to play in the BE.
I liked that Shaka said that their goal weight for Keeyan is 255 lbs and that he's currently at 217. Not sure I can see 38lbs of muscle being added to that frame but would love to see it.
Tyler's shot looks so much better than it did last season...and he actually used a floater! It didn't go in, but I don't know that I've seen him attempt one before.
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Any Stevie Mitchell news?
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There was on the other board.
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What's the verdict this evening?
Guilty on all counts, aina?
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Sweet Jesus. Details? Is there hope down the line?
No hope....
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Marquette won.
Did we beat the spread?
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Did we beat the spread?
No. Good teams win. Great teams beat the spread. Sad!
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I liked that Shaka said that their goal weight for Keeyan is 255 lbs and that he's currently at 217. Not sure I can see 38lbs of muscle being added to that frame but would love to see it.
Tyler's shot looks so much better than it did last season...and he actually used a floater! It didn't go in, but I don't know that I've seen him attempt one before.
How are you able to get to the scrimmage, the open practice, etc if you live in Texas? Not only is it impressive but as a guy who lives outside Wisconsin I’m jealous. Also, thanks for the info
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How are you able to get to the scrimmage, the open practice, etc if you live in Texas? Not only is it impressive but as a guy who lives outside Wisconsin I’m jealous. Also, thanks for the info
He is a wizard
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TAMU
Kolek stood out to me for his shooting, but more importantly, he looked stronger and it better shape. He definitely looks more like big time BE player body wise, IMO. I was impressed with Oso's ball handling and passing. Chase Ross was better than expected and I love everything about Sean Jones.
I have been very high on Omax and it was hard to tell how big of a step forward he made last night. I still think he makes a big impact this season, but he did nothing special last night. In fairness, there were a million drills and hard to judge guys off of last night.
That being said, I am far more optimistic going into this season over last season. Aside from Gold, this team is stacked with athletes and lot of guys fighting for playing time. Plus, it seems like every guy has bought in their role and the system. I am a system guy and happen to love Shaka's approach in style of play.
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Thanks for the reports, Goose and Wiz (and others). Excited about our team's potential heading into the season.
If Kolek and Oso have improved as much as those who have seen them this preseason say they have, I like our chances of being better than we were last season.
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TAMU
Kolek stood out to me for his shooting, but more importantly, he looked stronger and it better shape. He definitely looks more like big time BE player body wise, IMO. I was impressed with Oso's ball handling and passing. Chase Ross was better than expected and I love everything about Sean Jones.
I have been very high on Omax and it was hard to tell how big of a step forward he made last night. I still think he makes a big impact this season, but he did nothing special last night. In fairness, there were a million drills and hard to judge guys off of last night.
That being said, I am far more optimistic going into this season over last season. Aside from Gold, this team is stacked with athletes and lot of guys fighting for playing time. Plus, it seems like every guy has bought in their role and the system. I am a system guy and happen to love Shaka's approach in style of play.
Do you expect Sean Jones to play 20+ mins? Is he sort of a Peyton Siva speed wise but a better shooter? If Kolek can score and shoot a decent percentage we could surprise people.
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Muggsy
Siva is one of my favorite players over past couple of decades and that is a high bar. That said, it would not surprise me if Jones is around 20 minutes a game. I’m not sure how fast he is, but I cannot remember anyone being that fast on MU.
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So who are the players who are going to be the "go to guys" to replace Lewis and Morsell? Good teams have two, great teams have three.
It sounds like posters think we have one or two identified (Tyler, Kam). (Note: I am a COPER. I think we are like Shaka's second year at Texas where MU has less wins but we see more potential at the end).
For the record, I think Sean and Jop are in the mix for later this season.
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So who are the players who are going to be the "go to guys" to replace Lewis and Morsell? Good teams have two, great teams have three.
It sounds like posters think we have one or two identified (Tyler, Kam). (Note: I am a COPER. I think we are like Shaka's second year at Texas where MU has less wins but we see more potential at the end).
For the record, I think Sean and Jop are in the mix for later this season.
Kolek, Kam, KOmax.
Those are my picks.
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The Jones brothers are my picks.
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The Jones brothers are my picks.
Does that make Milwaukee the de facto Jonestown?
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Does that make Milwaukee the de facto Jonestown?
Only if we're all drinking the Kool-Aid.
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Does that make Milwaukee the de facto Jonestown?
We have gone from Hiroshima to Jonestown on our Scoop Journey, a step up from when Pilarz wanted us to be like St. Louis.
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No. Good teams win. Great teams beat the spread. Sad!
Al Davis: “Just win, baby!”
Al’s brother Dominic (the bookie): “Just cover, baby!”
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I liked that Shaka said that their goal weight for Keeyan is 255 lbs and that he's currently at 217. Not sure I can see 38lbs of muscle being added to that frame but would love to see it.
What was Keeyan going during his redshirt? Training for a marathon?
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Sean Jones will be starting PG by conference play - he can play with Kolek.
Sean Jones, Kolek, Kam, Omax, Oso is starting and closing lineup.
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What was Keeyan going during his redshirt? Training for a marathon?
He was 190 when he got on campus. He put on a healthy 27 lbs.
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Sean Jones will be starting PG by conference play - he can play with Kolek.
Sean Jones, Kolek, Kam, Omax, Oso is starting and closing lineup.
Appreciate the take. Given the strong passing proclivity of both Kolek and S Jones, that's a lineup I like. It already seems that Sean can create some buckets when he needs to. If TKo is also hitting, that really opens up the PnR and leads to efficient scoring.
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Muggsy
Siva is one of my favorite players over past couple of decades and that is a high bar. That said, it would not surprise me if Jones is around 20 minutes a game. I’m not sure how fast he is, but I cannot remember anyone being that fast on MU.
Ya...I loved Siva. He was sort of a poor man's Muggsy with tremendous speed of the bounce. Guys with jets that are immune to full-court presses, can control tempo and the entire game, are valuable assets Goose. Some also cut off the head of the snake defensively.
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Sean Jones will be starting PG by conference play - he can play with Kolek.
Sean Jones, Kolek, Kam, Omax, Oso is starting and closing lineup.
I have to say, the more we hear about Sean Jones and the closer I get to proclaiming him Marquette’s Trey Burke
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Ya...I loved Siva. He was sort of a poor man's Muggsy with tremendous speed of the bounce. Guys with jets that are immune to full-court presses, can control tempo and the entire game, are valuable assets Goose. Some also cut off the head of the snake defensively.
One of the worst coaching moves Buzz made was trying to use Junior to guard Siva in the 2012 BET while Vander was standing over in the corner.
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What are the beer prices this year?
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Any Stevie Mitchell news?
Stevie looked good, ball defense was fantastic as to be expected. Had multiple deflections off the ball too. Definitely looked bigger physically than last year, maybe not as much as Tyler or Kam though. Had a couple turnovers driving in the paint, but also made some nice plays as well. Shot looks more confident than last year. Really shined when he played the 2G with Sean playing PG.
Another tidbit, Shaka mentioned Stevie nearly has a 4.0 gpa!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmOroJC8LDE
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How are you able to get to the scrimmage, the open practice, etc if you live in Texas? Not only is it impressive but as a guy who lives outside Wisconsin I’m jealous. Also, thanks for the info
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TAMU
Kolek stood out to me for his shooting, but more importantly, he looked stronger and it better shape. He definitely looks more like big time BE player body wise, IMO. I was impressed with Oso's ball handling and passing. Chase Ross was better than expected and I love everything about Sean Jones.
I have been very high on Omax and it was hard to tell how big of a step forward he made last night. I still think he makes a big impact this season, but he did nothing special last night. In fairness, there were a million drills and hard to judge guys off of last night.
That being said, I am far more optimistic going into this season over last season. Aside from Gold, this team is stacked with athletes and lot of guys fighting for playing time. Plus, it seems like every guy has bought in their role and the system. I am a system guy and happen to love Shaka's approach in style of play.
Good call on Ross. I liked what he was putting down. I think he could be really good in a year or two
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Stevie looked good, ball defense was fantastic as to be expected. Had multiple deflections off the ball too. Definitely looked bigger physically than last year, maybe not as much as Tyler or Kam though. Had a couple turnovers driving in the paint, but also made some nice plays as well. Shot looks more confident than last year. Really shined when he played the 2G with Sean playing PG.
Another tidbit, Shaka mentioned Stevie nearly has a 4.0 gpa!
Stevie is a superb young man. Tremendous representative for MU hoops.
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I have to say, the more we hear about Sean Jones and the closer I get to proclaiming him Marquette’s Trey Burke
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmOroJC8LDE
* Crean quote - uh oh!
* Talk of Oso not wanting to stick around? Presumably was considering transfer - maybe I missed that
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* Crean quote - uh oh!
* Talk of Oso not wanting to stick around? Presumably was considering transfer - maybe I missed that
After the coaching change he was considering it.
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Finally, Joplin's practice habits.
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After the coaching change he was considering it.
Ah yes, just went back and listened - I initially missed the first part of the question "When you first got here...Oso was deciding...". Nevermind!
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Stevie looked good, ball defense was fantastic as to be expected. Had multiple deflections off the ball too. Definitely looked bigger physically than last year, maybe not as much as Tyler or Kam though. Had a couple turnovers driving in the paint, but also made some nice plays as well. Shot looks more confident than last year. Really shined when he played the 2G with Sean playing PG.
Another tidbit, Shaka mentioned Stevie nearly has a 4.0 gpa!
Thanks. Tower mentioned another board. I don’t go to another board. Is there more to the story?
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https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1586013548689358848?t=Q88I1MBGAi7IUZXPZD-5eQ&s=19
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Finally, Joplin's practice habits.
I will be interesting to see if Shaka's "could be our best player" materializes.
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Sean Jones will be starting PG by conference play - he can play with Kolek.
Sean Jones, Kolek, Kam, Omax, Oso is starting and closing lineup.
What about Zach Wrightsil--how's he looking? I thought we were going to be leaning on him pretty heavily for some rebounding...
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and a "KenPom Tempo" reference....
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Shaka: ...... Wrightsil had surgery over the summer. Plus the adjustment from NAIA. He will get better as the season goes on.
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What about Zach Wrightsil--how's he looking? I thought we were going to be leaning on him pretty heavily for some rebounding...
I wasn't there last night but to me Wrightsill contributes 15 minutes a night with pure hustle plays
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Did we have the requisite number of deflections?
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I wasn't there last night but to me Wrightsill contributes 15 minutes a night with pure hustle plays
Hm, if you watch Shaka's video, it sounds like he may get there by the end of the season, and is giving max effort now, but might not be ready for the step up in competition...yet.
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Crean sucks
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Hm, if you watch Shaka's video, it sounds like he may get there by the end of the season, and is giving max effort now, but might not be ready for the step up in competition...yet.
You may be right. Clearly has a motor. I'm very skeptical of the move from NAIA which is really level lower than DIII so we'll see. Motors travel I suppose, just not buying the stock.
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You may be right. Clearly has a motor. I'm very skeptical of the move from NAIA which is really level lower than DIII so we'll see. Motors travel I suppose, just not buying the stock.
The level he played at is much higher than d3. I’d compare his championship squad to low level d1 hoops.
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The level he played at is much higher than d3. I’d compare his championship squad to low level d1 hoops.
No.
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No.
Yes
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Yeah I would say NAIA at that level is high D2 / low major D1. He was getting a full ride there. Much better than D3.
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Yeah I would say NAIA at that level is high D2 / low major D1. He was getting a full ride there. Much better than D3.
Correct - I think d1 naia hoops has 10 scholarships to give out each season.
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There is “low major” NAIA too. Like Viterbo. But that’s not what Zach was playing.
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People are actually saying NAIA, is worse than D3 HAHAHAHAHA
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Correct - I think d1 naia hoops has 10 scholarships to give out each season.
One of his teammates from last year is now on Ole Miss, so it's some quality basketball.
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You may be right. Clearly has a motor. I'm very skeptical of the move from NAIA which is really level lower than DIII so we'll see. Motors travel I suppose, just not buying the stock.
No. NAIA is comparable to D2. Like D2, the top NAIA teams can usually compete with the bottom quarter of D1 teams. Still a big jump in competition but it is not like the jump from "below D3" to D1.
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No. NAIA is comparable to D2. Like D2, the top NAIA teams can usually compete with the bottom quarter of D1 teams. Still a big jump in competition but it is not like the jump from "below D3" to D1.
Wizzo knows all!
https://www.ncsasports.org/recruiting/how-to-get-recruited/college-divisions/naia-vs-ncaa
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_dUkQDfCNo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmOroJC8LDE
Already playing "the we are young" card, SAD!
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Already playing "the we are young" card, SAD!
KOHLER!
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KOHLER!
Excellent plumbing fixtures, we going down the drain?
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Excellent plumbing fixtures, we going down the drain?
Toto
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Shaka has really stressed the jump in competition for Wrightsill. Would he do that as aggressively for a high dII low dI transfer? Not sure. Also talked to some former video coordinators from dI programs and they were saying naia is below dIII. Also Just looking at the opponents in the Wrightsill highlight videos…😬. Just saying my expectations are high energy motor guy and that’s great but nothing more.
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Shaka has really stressed the jump in competition for Wrightsill. Would he do that as aggressively for a high dII low dI transfer? Not sure. Also talked to some former video coordinators from dI programs and they were saying naia is below dIII. Also Just looking at the opponents in the Wrightsill highlight videos…😬. Just saying my expectations are high energy motor guy and that’s great but nothing more.
Definitely a head scratcher pick up if that is all he winds up being. We needed and impact transfer that could rebound with a promise of plenty of playing time. Shaka was able to get some impressive transfers last year with the same playing time promise. Will be interesting following Wrightsills progress.
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Toto
Africa
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Already playing "the we are young" card, SAD!
It's no secret Shaka is building primarily through high school/prep school players with 3 grad transfers his first two years and transfers Kolek and Prosper. There are more than a few people on here who don't agree with this and all I can say is that for this to change, you will probably have to wait until the next head coach.
Compared to many programs now, this is a young team. Wrightsill will be the only 22 year old at seasons end. Kolek and Kam Jones will be 21. As a contrast, Cooley at Providence has gone heavy into the transfer market and will have something like (4) 23 year olds and I think Bynum turns 24 in mid March. Shaka is basically done recruiting for 2023 and Cooley might have to hit the transfer market again.
Two ways to do things.
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'we are young'? Fun
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It's no secret Shaka is building primarily through high school/prep school players with 3 grad transfers his first two years and transfers Kolek and Prosper. There are more than a few people on here who don't agree with this and all I can say is that for this to change, you will probably have to wait until the next head coach.
Compared to many programs now, this is a young team. Wrightsill will be the only 22 year old at seasons end. Kolek and Kam Jones will be 21. As a contrast, Cooley at Providence has gone heavy into the transfer market and will have something like (4) 23 year olds and I think Bynum turns 24 in mid March. Shaka is basically done recruiting for 2023 and Cooley might have to hit the transfer market again.
Two ways to do things.
I like Shakas way better if he is hitting the mark on the right guys and we can pay them to stay. When we do go transfer portal to fill out the roster I would hope it would be an impact transfer, however. Hope Wrighsill is the real deal. Shaka thinks so or he wouldn’t have wasted a scholarship l would hope.
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Toto
The last house we bought in Chicago was very nice but one of the toilets had a crack in the bowl. Consumer Reports recommended Toto as the top brand in toilets, so I decided to buy one. But you couldn't get Toto products in Home Depot or Lowe's, so you had to go through specialty plumbing stores or wholesalers ... and I found that it was almost impossible to get one.
I finally thought I located one in a warehouse near the United Center but when I went to pick it up, the guy said, Sorry but it was gone. I asked him what was going on, why couldn't I get a freakin' Toto toilet? He said something like, "I know you're not gonna believe this, but there's almost like a black market for them. They don't make enough, and it creates more demand and higher prices, and they end up getting sold before we can even get them in, and they go for way above list price."
Well, Toto might make incredible products, but I wasn't gonna flush $1,000 for an effen black-market toilet. Ended up buying a Kohler and it worked perfectly.
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It's no secret Shaka is building primarily through high school/prep school players with 3 grad transfers his first two years and transfers Kolek and Prosper. There are more than a few people on here who don't agree with this and all I can say is that for this to change, you will probably have to wait until the next head coach.
Compared to many programs now, this is a young team. Wrightsill will be the only 22 year old at seasons end. Kolek and Kam Jones will be 21. As a contrast, Cooley at Providence has gone heavy into the transfer market and will have something like (4) 23 year olds and I think Bynum turns 24 in mid March. Shaka is basically done recruiting for 2023 and Cooley might have to hit the transfer market again.
Two ways to do things.
Markus is only 23 yrs old
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The last house we bought in Chicago was very nice but one of the toilets had a crack in the bowl. Consumer Reports recommended Toto as the top brand in toilets, so I decided to buy one. But you couldn't get Toto products in Home Depot or Lowe's, so you had to go through specialty plumbing stores or wholesalers ... and I found that it was almost impossible to get one.
I finally thought I located one in a warehouse near the United Center but when I went to pick it up, the guy said, Sorry but it was gone. I asked him what was going on, why couldn't I get a freakin' Toto toilet? He said something like, "I know you're not gonna believe this, but there's almost like a black market for them. They don't make enough, and it creates more demand and higher prices, and they end up getting sold before we can even get them in, and they go for way above list price."
Well, Toto might make incredible products, but I wasn't gonna flush $1,000 for an effen black-market toilet. Ended up buying a Kohler and it worked perfectly.
Back then in Chicago, everything related to the trades "fell of the back of the truck".
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Back then in Chicago, everything related to the trades "fell of the back of the truck".
I mean, I'm only talkin' 2005. It wasn't the Capone era!
And BTW, I have no idea if it's still difficult to get a Toto toilet or if it's easy-peasy now. Haven't needed to find out.
Anyhoo, sorry that I spun this thread a different direction. It had been so interesting reading the debate about whether NAIA is below the D3 level, at the D3 level, below the D2 level, at the D2 level, at the upper-D2 level, etc.
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Shaka has really stressed the jump in competition for Wrightsill. Would he do that as aggressively for a high dII low dI transfer? Not sure. Also talked to some former video coordinators from dI programs and they were saying naia is below dIII. Also Just looking at the opponents in the Wrightsill highlight videos…😬. Just saying my expectations are high energy motor guy and that’s great but nothing more.
High energy motor guy is exactly the prototype this team needs no ? That’s the type of skill set that translates from the comparable lower d1 level of naia ball he played at previously.
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Pretty sure Toto toilets are reserved for pristine piss and chit, hey?
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Years ago scoop was good.
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Pretty sure Toto toilets are reserved for pristine piss and chit, hey?
https://youtu.be/7CQpvc8quQ8