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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: avid1010 on October 08, 2022, 09:53:02 AM

Title: Scrimmage
Post by: avid1010 on October 08, 2022, 09:53:02 AM
@ scrimmage...no joplin?
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Post by: Its DJOver on October 08, 2022, 10:01:20 AM
He’s with Sacar.
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:04:19 AM
No Jop, Ellis, or Ross. Joplin and Ross have minor injuries
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Post by: Elonsmusk on October 08, 2022, 10:04:37 AM
@ scrimmage...no joplin?

Would appreciate hearing your takes on the scrimmage..please share with Scoop.
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:07:19 AM
Blue: Kam, oso, Kolek, wrightsell, and 2 Walk ons

Vs

Gold: Sean, Gold, itejere, Omax, Stevie
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:09:00 AM
Shaka repeats line about oso being a ballhandler.. says were playing faster this season than last season
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Post by: avid1010 on October 08, 2022, 10:09:41 AM
Shaka said Jop back in the near future...referenced ellis coming back as well.  Obviously not sure what "back" means.
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Post by: avid1010 on October 08, 2022, 10:10:17 AM
TAMU...what do you make of the ellis comment?
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:13:00 AM
TAMU...what do you make of the ellis comment?

He's redshirtting
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:14:38 AM
Osos first drive...dribbles oof his foot oob, lol
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:19:13 AM
Kams even crafter. Koleks passes are crisp and hebswished his first three
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:20:27 AM
Blue just throttling Gold. 17 to 4
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Post by: avid1010 on October 08, 2022, 10:21:02 AM
Kam noticeably stronger and better...no doubt.
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:24:10 AM
Oso looking like Kuath early, no easy shots at rim
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:26:06 AM
Blue just throttling Gold. 17 to 4

25 to 4 now
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 08, 2022, 10:39:24 AM
Oso looking like Kuath early, no easy shots at rim

How's his offense?

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Post by: MuggsyB on October 08, 2022, 10:40:23 AM
Kam noticeably stronger and better...no doubt.

Is he attacking the paint a bit?
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:40:30 AM
25 to 4 now

Gold goes on a 14 to 4 run to end the (12 minute) half. 28 to 18 Blue
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 08, 2022, 10:41:30 AM
How does Jones the Younger look?
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:41:55 AM
How's his offense?

So far what we saw last season, in the right spot for an easy dunk. A few nice passes put of the post

Is he attacking the paint a bit?

Yes very aggressive driving and has finished more than he hasn't
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 08, 2022, 10:43:44 AM
So far what we saw last season, in the right spot for an easy dunk. A few nice passes put of the post

Yes very aggressive driving and has finished more than he hasn't

Excellent.  Ty TAMU.  Kam improving is enormous for us moving forward.
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:43:55 AM
How does Jones the Younger look?

Quick. A nice stop and pop from about 18. Drive with a nifty reverse layup around Zach. Made at least one dumb turnover and one extremely dumb turnover. Still a frosh but he'll play a lot
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:48:30 AM
Keeyan is not ready offensively but can hold his own defensively. Can guard 1 thru 5.

Oso just dunked on Golds head for an and one
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:50:08 AM
Gold team can't buy an outside bucket...actually Stevie just hit one. Blue hitting everything.

Sean with a nice drawn change on Oso
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Post by: cheebs09 on October 08, 2022, 10:50:22 AM
Wrightsil looks stronger than I expected.
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 08, 2022, 10:57:50 AM
I expect we will play our four guards s lot.  What are you all seeing from Zack??  Ty.
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 10:58:36 AM
Stevie offense is improves. Omax not having a good scrimmage, looks the same as last season
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 11:00:42 AM
It looks like they fixed Koleks shot. Getting more arc than last season
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 11:02:45 AM
I expect we will play our four guards s lot.  What are you all seeing from Zack??  Ty.

Can guard everyone on our roster. He's strong but don't know how he'll handle the bruisers. Confident ball handler but seems a touch slow
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 08, 2022, 11:02:57 AM
It looks like they fixed Koleks shot. Getting more arc than last season

BAM.  We need the kid
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 11:07:36 AM
Sean heating up. Back to back threes
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 11:10:54 AM
Final after 24 minutes,  65 Blue (Kolek, Kam, Oso, Zach, John Lucas) 46 Gold (Sean, Gold, Stevie, Omax, Keeyan)
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Post by: 4everwarriors on October 08, 2022, 11:18:35 AM
Any opinion on da cheerleaders, hey?
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Post by: Elonsmusk on October 08, 2022, 11:40:10 AM
Final after 24 minutes,  65 Blue (Kolek, Kam, Oso, Zach, John Lucas) 46 Gold (Sean, Gold, Stevie, Omax, Keeyan)

A little surprised by the seeming ease the Blue team had against Gold.  TAMU - What did you see as far as the biggest difference between the two teams/cause for the domination by Blue?
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Post by: YoungMUFan4 on October 08, 2022, 11:47:46 AM
A little surprised by the seeming ease the Blue team had against Gold.  TAMU - What did you see as far as the biggest difference between the two teams/cause for the domination by Blue?

Koleks game management vs S Jones and Mitchell.
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Post by: Elonsmusk on October 08, 2022, 11:51:02 AM
Koleks game management vs S Jones and Mitchell.

Thanks for the insight.  Makes sense.  Big fan of TKO.
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2022, 11:58:57 AM
A little surprised by the seeming ease the Blue team had against Gold.  TAMU - What did you see as far as the biggest difference between the two teams/cause for the domination by Blue?

Young MU is correct also shooting. Gold could t hit the three til late in the second half. Blue hit everything. Even Lucas was 2/2 from deep. I'll type up more thoughts later
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 08, 2022, 12:08:43 PM
Ty all for your insights.
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Post by: wadesworld on October 08, 2022, 12:14:56 PM
Sounds like what I expected from a lot of the guys. Expecting Sean Jones to be a major contributor from day one. Expecting things to not go well if we’re running our offense through Oso/he’s handling the ball. Expecting Gold to be a bit player year one.
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Post by: Pakuni on October 08, 2022, 12:19:51 PM
Any opinion on da cheerleaders, hey?

I'd opine that none of them would give you the time of day, aina.
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Post by: tower912 on October 08, 2022, 12:40:08 PM
Any opinion on da cheerleaders, hey?

The same age as your grandchildren.
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Post by: cheebs09 on October 08, 2022, 01:23:41 PM
I thought it was a really nice event. Pretty simple, but a great way to meet the team. I thought Shaka’s intro of each player was nice.

Not much to add, but I hope the poor free throw shooting was due to nerves/rust. I think Oso is going to make a nice jump. He seems to have the Ellenson green light to bring the ball up if he gets a rebound.

Wrightsill was thicker and shorter than I expected. For some reason I was expecting a Trend Blackledge body type.

Overall fun event. Was able to snag a picture with Shaka and my daughter. The autograph line was fun. The players were engaging with our 2 year old. Seems like a really fun group to root for.
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Post by: Jay Bee on October 08, 2022, 01:29:39 PM
Only 3 guys attempted a ft. And FTs no matta
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Post by: tower912 on October 08, 2022, 01:36:18 PM
Please post the stat sheet like you did on Dodds site. 
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Post by: We R Final Four on October 08, 2022, 01:37:23 PM
 Kam and Stevie were standouts today.
Zach is strong, will be fine.
Gold 0-3 or 0-4 from deep.
Sean is very quick….made a few nice 3s.
Tyler played well also.
Title: Re: Scrimmage
Post by: MU62 on October 08, 2022, 02:08:24 PM
Happy to see some familiar posters were there.  Kam just shot amazingly well. He seems stronger and trying harder on defense.  Sean Jones is going to be playing a lot.  Both Wrightsil and Omax looked better as the game wore on.  There was a lot of effort out there.  I did not know about walk on Jonah Lucas from West Lafayette Indiana.  He held his own in this scrimmage which was nice to see. He probably will not be out there that much in regular games but I will definitely be rooting for him.  Stevie and Tyler looked good on defense.  Tyler had a lot of excellent passes.  Big men were so so.  We will need help underneath.       
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Post by: avid1010 on October 08, 2022, 02:11:29 PM
I like OMax's game...what he did today he can do against anyone.  He didn't play great, but he'll be on the court for many reasons.

Kam looked really good...stronger and even more confident.  The sh1t he was doing in warm-ups (1 v 1 move then pull up nba 3) was done with ease and at a nba level %. 

Oso is what we have down low.  He needs to board, block, and dunk.

Wrightstill (sp?) looked short to me...plays strong...will need him to rebound obviously.

Really wanted to see Jop...Shaka's words on Kam and Jop seem to indicate they'll have green lights...and both had good summers. 

TK was TK...shot was better...no reason he shouldn't take a step forward.  He'll be on the court.

Stevie played well...just has to hit the open 3.

I liked Sean Jones...not to go all herman...but guy has thighs of a running back.  He has the physical make-up of a BEAST guard already.  3 and D is all we need from him this year.  His strength and athleticism should allow him to be a great defender if he wants to be.

Young team...good kids...good coach...should be years of fun ahead of us.  Great to be watching college Bball again.


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Post by: Jay Bee on October 08, 2022, 02:16:52 PM
Please post the stat sheet like you did on Dodds site.
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Post by: tower912 on October 08, 2022, 02:33:24 PM
Thanks.
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 08, 2022, 02:38:44 PM
I like OMax's game...what he did today he can do against anyone.  He didn't play great, but he'll be on the court for many reasons.

Kam looked really good...stronger and even more confident.  The sh1t he was doing in warm-ups (1 v 1 move then pull up nba 3) was done with ease and at a nba level %. 

Oso is what we have down low.  He needs to board, block, and dunk.

Wrightstill (sp?) looked short to me...plays strong...will need him to rebound obviously.

Really wanted to see Jop...Shaka's words on Kam and Jop seem to indicate they'll have green lights...and both had good summers. 

TK was TK...shot was better...no reason he shouldn't take a step forward.  He'll be on the court.

Stevie played well...just has to hit the open 3.

I liked Sean Jones...not to go all herman...but guy has thighs of a running back.  He has the physical make-up of a BEAST guard already.  3 and D is all we need from him this year.  His strength and athleticism should allow him to be a great defender if he wants to be.

Young team...good kids...good coach...should be years of fun ahead of us.  Great to be watching college Bball again.

Tyvm for your insights Avid.  It's no secret that we need to rebound the ball and find a way to defend the interior.  That said it sounds like our guards are pretty solid and multidimensional.
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Post by: NolongerWarriors on October 08, 2022, 02:44:20 PM
I hope everyone is ready for what to expect from Gold.

Yikes.
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Post by: cheebs09 on October 08, 2022, 03:05:41 PM


Looks like my FT observation was wrong. Too much time trying to spot Iggy.
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Post by: Newsdreams on October 08, 2022, 05:49:52 PM
How will our seeding be impacted by scrimmage?
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Post by: jficke13 on October 08, 2022, 08:04:07 PM
If Stevie can develop a shot he's gonna be special. He's a demon on ball defender with absolutely zero fear. We learned that as he was chirping Curbello as a freshman last year. He's fun as hell to watch hound a guy.
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Post by: mileskishnish72 on October 08, 2022, 09:00:10 PM
One wonders why OMax is taking 3's.
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Post by: wadesworld on October 08, 2022, 09:16:09 PM
One wonders why OMax is taking 3's.

Why I’ve never seen the NBA hype with him. Have to be able to shoot in today’s game.
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Post by: jfp61 on October 08, 2022, 09:28:24 PM
Omax shot 82% from the FT last year. College Free Throw percentage is the single biggest indicator as to a future NBA players NBA three point success.

As for his other traits, finished last year as marquette best on ball defender (minus Stevies 10% of minutes). He was out with a knee injury early in the summer that kept him from going to play with Canada. Today, he probably was the only Starter on his team during a scrimmage where he had 11-8 playing below his average.
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Post by: PointWarrior on October 08, 2022, 09:34:44 PM
OMax is the Mope’s new poster child.  Gold in second place. 

Why I’ve never seen the NBA hype with him. Have to be able to shoot in today’s game.
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Post by: MU82 on October 08, 2022, 10:09:28 PM
Interesting apportionment of playing time. I wonder if that means Shaka plans to play everybody the exact same number of minutes this season.

But seriously, folks ...

TAMU wasn't lyin' about the Blue squad's shooting.
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Post by: panda on October 09, 2022, 02:00:48 AM
Omax shot 82% from the FT last year. College Free Throw percentage is the single biggest indicator as to a future NBA players NBA three point success.

As for his other traits, finished last year as marquette best on ball defender (minus Stevies 10% of minutes). He was out with a knee injury early in the summer that kept him from going to play with Canada. Today, he probably was the only Starter on his team during a scrimmage where he had 11-8 playing below his average.

Wouldn’t three point percentage be the best indicator of future nba three point success ?
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Post by: MUDPT on October 09, 2022, 06:12:58 AM
Wouldn’t three point percentage be the best indicator of future nba three point success ?

No, not enough volume usually.
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Post by: jfp61 on October 09, 2022, 07:39:21 AM
Wouldn’t three point percentage be the best indicator of future nba three point success ?
No, there have been multiple math based studies on it because it has been something NBA circles have said for 20+ years.

https://sites.dartmouth.edu/sportsanalytics/2018/02/10/better-indicator-of-nba-success-foul-shooting-or-three-point-shooting/

It has less to do about volume as it once did, and more to do with isolates the players’ shooting stroke.
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Post by: MU82 on October 09, 2022, 10:32:52 AM
For those who haven't seen in yet, our Wizard posted his Paint Touches observations: https://painttouches.com/2022/10/09/quick-observations-from-1st-annual-blue-vs-gold-scrimmage/