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Title: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 04, 2022, 04:32:33 PM
Why isn't this a Federal holiday???  I guess I have to change my dinner plans later. 
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: JWags85 on October 04, 2022, 05:48:32 PM
Worth a reminder that if you don't appreciate a simple street taco with pork/chicken/beef and diced onion and cilantro, without a bunch of shredded cheese or sour cream, you don't actually love tacos.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MU82 on October 04, 2022, 06:02:35 PM
Just finished the delicious pork quesadillas my wife made -- pork loin, sauteed peppers and onions, my homemade guac, a nice salsa.

Gonna have to be close enough to tacos.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 04, 2022, 06:30:22 PM
Trayf, aina?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 04, 2022, 06:36:10 PM
Just finished the delicious pork quesadillas my wife made -- pork loin, sauteed peppers and onions, my homemade guac, a nice salsa.

Gonna have to be close enough to tacos.

I'm gonna.side with JWags here.  He's 100% correct on the street taco (carnitas, carne asada) with onion and cilantro .  It also must be on a soft corm tortilla with a splash of a hot salsa being optional. 

While your quesadillas sound delicious, they are not tacos and may be illegal or at least a disqualification on National Taco Day. 
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 04, 2022, 06:39:33 PM
I only eat American food
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MU82 on October 04, 2022, 06:58:59 PM
Trayf, aina?

It was served on a platef, not a trayf.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: jficke13 on October 04, 2022, 08:25:51 PM
I'm gonna.side with JWags here.  He's 100% correct on the street taco (carnitas, carne asada) with onion and cilantro .  It also must be on a soft corm tortilla with a splash of a hot salsa being optional. 

While your quesadillas sound delicious, they are not tacos and may be illegal or at least a disqualification on National Taco Day.

But is a taco a sandwich?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: NCMUFan on October 04, 2022, 09:04:00 PM
Supper tonight was blue tortilla chips, salsa, guacamole, pinto beans, cheddar cheese and taco flavored ground beef.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 04, 2022, 09:19:16 PM
But is a taco a sandwich?

Only if you're a heretic
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 04, 2022, 09:28:13 PM
I had three carnitas tacos, some mex street 🌽, and a Negra Modelo.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 04, 2022, 09:37:13 PM
What is the best Mexican beer?  Maybe I should have gotten a Tecate.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 04, 2022, 10:15:11 PM
What is the best Mexican beer?  Maybe I should have gotten a Tecate.

Pacifico
Sol
Negro Modelo

that order... imo
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 04, 2022, 10:42:02 PM
Pacifico
Sol
Negro Modelo

that order... imo

I'm not sure I've had Sol. 
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2022, 09:33:45 AM
I'm not sure I've had Sol.

Muggsy you are a lot of things but I would have never pegged you for being Sol-less
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Jockey on October 05, 2022, 09:47:20 AM
I only eat American food

A lot of the tacos are here illegally. Get a certificate when you buy one.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 05, 2022, 09:51:42 AM
A lot of the tacos are here illegally. Get a certificate when you buy one.

I videotape the local taco truck and send it to the INS daily
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MU82 on October 05, 2022, 10:40:00 AM
Pacifico
Sol
Negro Modelo

that order... imo

My faves are Modelo Negra and Dos Equis Amber.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: jficke13 on October 05, 2022, 12:23:51 PM
Only if you're a heretic

I say it's a sandwich and only those with an unflinchingly orthodox definition of "sandwich" can say otherwise.

As the internet has so sagely determined, a hotdog is a sandwich. Therefore, a taco can be a sandwich as well.

Time and the evolution of language stop for no man. Get with the times.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2022, 12:33:54 PM
I say it's a sandwich and only those with an unflinchingly orthodox definition of "sandwich" can say otherwise.

As the internet has so sagely determined, a hotdog is a sandwich. Therefore, a taco can be a sandwich as well.

Time and the evolution of language stop for no man. Get with the times.

I'm in an ingredient rebel and structure orthodox. I don't care what you put in it, but it has to be something between two separate pieces of the same thing. A hot dog is only a sandwich if you separate the bun.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: JWags85 on October 05, 2022, 12:38:48 PM
I say it's a sandwich and only those with an unflinchingly orthodox definition of "sandwich" can say otherwise.

As the internet has so sagely determined, a hotdog is a sandwich. Therefore, a taco can be a sandwich as well.

Time and the evolution of language stop for no man. Get with the times.

I say it is not a sandwich due to the existence of Tortas, so its not as if its just the cultural version of a sandwich for a region.  The same way I don't consider a gyro to be a sandwich.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 05, 2022, 12:44:48 PM
I say it is not a sandwich due to the existence of Tortas, so its not as if its just the cultural version of a sandwich for a region.  The same way I don't consider a gyro to be a sandwich.

Exactly.  This is absurd. If a taco is a sandwich then why is there a distinction between breakfast tacos and breakfast sandwiches?  You can't just make up definitions.  And a wrap whether it's a pita or a tortilla isn't a sandwich either.  I mean seriously if you fold NY pizza and eat it that way is it a sandwich??  Please.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: lawdog77 on October 05, 2022, 12:57:59 PM
I'm in an ingredient rebel and structure orthodox. I don't care what you put in it, but it has to be something between two separate pieces of the same thing. A hot dog is only a sandwich if you separate the bun.
What if the bun accidentally comes apart? Did your meal transform right in front of your eyes?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on October 05, 2022, 01:08:39 PM
Rico identifies as a taco.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2022, 01:21:34 PM
What if the bun accidentally comes apart? Did your meal transform right in front of your eyes?

Yes
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Jay Bee on October 05, 2022, 01:51:56 PM
I'm in an ingredient rebel and structure orthodox. I don't care what you put in it, but it has to be something between two separate pieces of the same thing. A hot dog is only a sandwich if you separate the bun.

A Philly cheesesteak isn’t a sandwich to you??  Unless you break apart the bread into two pieces??
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 05, 2022, 02:03:20 PM
Rico identifies as a taco.

Corn or flour?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: jficke13 on October 05, 2022, 02:41:39 PM
I'm in an ingredient rebel and structure orthodox. I don't care what you put in it, but it has to be something between two separate pieces of the same thing. A hot dog is only a sandwich if you separate the bun.

Are the ingredients not between the sides of the tortilla? Are you eating your tacos lying open and flat with a knife and fork? Who's the heretic now?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on October 05, 2022, 02:49:27 PM
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Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: lawdog77 on October 05, 2022, 02:55:20 PM
Are the ingredients not between the sides of the tortilla? Are you eating your tacos lying open and flat with a knife and fork? Who's the heretic now?
So, would a quesadilla be a sandwich?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: warriorchick on October 05, 2022, 02:56:43 PM
A Philly cheesesteak isn’t a sandwich to you??  Unless you break apart the bread into two pieces??

And what about Subway?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: NCMUFan on October 05, 2022, 02:58:04 PM
So, would a quesadilla be a sandwich?
Mexican grilled cheese, absolutely.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Skatastrophy on October 05, 2022, 03:03:29 PM
And what about Subway?

This is all covered by the cube rule

https://cuberule.com/
(https://cuberule.com/assets/15_cube_rule.jpg)

Subway, cheesesteaks, and hot dogs are all forms of tacos unless you break the bun apart.

A quesadilla, if it's closed like a mexican quesadilla, is a calzone (much like poptarts). If it's open like american quesadillas then its a taco
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: rocky_warrior on October 05, 2022, 03:06:15 PM
This is all covered by the cube rule

Yup.  World is doomed, now people need rules for their food.  Eat & enjoy...until we can't.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 05, 2022, 03:10:02 PM
Excuse me but if a taco or quesadilla is a sandwich why do tortas exist? If a taco is a sandwich is moo shu pork as well?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on October 05, 2022, 03:12:15 PM
And what about Subway?

My Sandwich Artist has an opinion on that one.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: jficke13 on October 05, 2022, 03:16:04 PM
This is all covered by the cube rule

https://cuberule.com/
(https://cuberule.com/assets/15_cube_rule.jpg)

Subway, cheesesteaks, and hot dogs are all forms of tacos unless you break the bun apart.

A quesadilla, if it's closed like a mexican quesadilla, is a calzone (much like poptarts). If it's open like american quesadillas then its a taco

what about sashimi or nigiri?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2022, 03:21:35 PM
And what about Subway?

Those are subs. A close cousin of the sandwich
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2022, 03:23:20 PM
Are the ingredients not between the sides of the tortilla? Are you eating your tacos lying open and flat with a knife and fork? Who's the heretic now?

If you make your taco into a torta it's a sandwich. But one tortilla equals a taco, a second cousin of the sandwich
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 05, 2022, 03:44:00 PM
What is the best Mexican beer?  Maybe I should have gotten a Tecate.

Monzon Brewery Puerto Vallarta

Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 05, 2022, 03:46:20 PM
Celebrated with a Fried Willapa Bay oyster, Salsa Veracruzana made with tomato, olives, capers, orange and guajillo on a hand-pressed squid ink tortilla taco

And grilled Amish chicken thighs en adobo, fresh fennel slaw, radish, pina-habanero salsa. Served with three hand rolled chicken fat flour tortillas

With a mezcal Paloma

Also a hot dog, taco, Italian beef, Philly cheese steak are all not sandwiches till the bread breaks.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: jficke13 on October 05, 2022, 03:48:03 PM
If you make your taco into a torta it's a sandwich. But one tortilla equals a taco, a second cousin of the sandwich

what about a street taco that uses two tortillas thusly:

tortilla-tortilla-fillings

?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: wadesworld on October 05, 2022, 03:56:34 PM
This is all covered by the cube rule

https://cuberule.com/
(https://cuberule.com/assets/15_cube_rule.jpg)

Subway, cheesesteaks, and hot dogs are all forms of tacos unless you break the bun apart.

A quesadilla, if it's closed like a mexican quesadilla, is a calzone (much like poptarts). If it's open like american quesadillas then its a taco

Who the hell gets a salad in a bread bowl?!
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 05, 2022, 04:21:13 PM
Monzon Brewery Puerto Vallarta

Ty Galway!  How have you been?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2022, 04:46:21 PM
what about a street taco that uses two tortillas thusly:

tortilla-tortilla-fillings

?

If I'm reading correctly,  that's an open faced sandwich, sandwiches most awkward cousin
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: tower912 on October 05, 2022, 04:58:15 PM
In honor of this thread, I did not cut all of the way through the hamburger bun I had for dinner so the burger would not be a sandwich.   


The silly things we do argue about.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on October 05, 2022, 05:41:47 PM
I like my tacos pink, eh?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: real chili 83 on October 05, 2022, 08:01:13 PM
We should ask Earl for a ruling.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 05, 2022, 08:18:19 PM
And what about Subway?

I prefer a hoagie from Jersey Mikes.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: jficke13 on October 05, 2022, 09:18:24 PM
If I'm reading correctly,  that's an open faced sandwich, sandwiches most awkward cousin

If that’s the case then a traditional taco is just a folded up open faced sandwich.

Boom
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on October 05, 2022, 09:23:23 PM
This may be heresy but our house has become big fans of Trader Joe soy chorizo.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Jay Bee on October 05, 2022, 09:25:04 PM
This may be heresy but our house has become big fans of Trader Joe soy chorizo.

^^^ ban dis guy
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Post by: Billy Hoyle on October 05, 2022, 09:30:09 PM
Ty Galway!  How have you been?

I’ve been. Good stuff (owners are Seattleites so more IPAs and hazies) but beer is pricey for PV. Los Muertos in PV is solid beer and has a great happy hour. When I was there in 2021 happy hour pints were under $2.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 05, 2022, 10:04:17 PM
This may be heresy but our house has become big fans of Trader Joe soy chorizo.

You had their cinnamon rolls? Blew our minds
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 05, 2022, 11:30:13 PM
I’ve been. Good stuff (owners are Seattleites so more IPAs and hazies) but beer is pricey for PV. Los Muertos in PV is solid beer and has a great happy hour. When I was there in 2021 happy hour pints were under $2.

Didn't care for los muertos imo was a great environment and enjoyed one beer but the rest of them were very "meh"

Ty Galway!  How have you been?

Good, doing well just lost pride in my alma mater from coming here so wanted to take a step away after a decade plus newly married and me not on here as much was in her prenup. Hope all is well and that the animals are flourishing.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 06, 2022, 06:31:03 AM
I'm not sure I've had Sol.

I also forgot Victoria.

I'm a bigger fan of some of the Caribbean island beers.  Piton, Carib, Presidente, and Banks.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 06, 2022, 08:17:02 AM
I also forgot Victoria.

I'm a bigger fan of some of the Caribbean island beers.  Piton, Carib, Presidente, and Banks.

I like Presidente.  That was my beer of choice in the Keys last year. 
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: warriorchick on October 06, 2022, 08:37:49 AM
How does a chalupa fit into the cube rule? Its got a starch layer in the middle of two fillings
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: jficke13 on October 06, 2022, 09:17:00 AM
How does a chalupa fit into the cube rule? Its got a starch layer in the middle of two fillings

Chalupa is lasagna.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Skatastrophy on October 06, 2022, 10:40:39 AM
Chalupa is lasagna.

This is advanced cube rule application
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on October 06, 2022, 11:57:59 AM
^^^ ban dis guy

I know. I think I'll do the honorable thing and ban myself.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 06, 2022, 12:24:42 PM
Didn't care for los muertos imo was a great environment and enjoyed one beer but the rest of them were very "meh"

Good, doing well just lost pride in my alma mater from coming here so wanted to take a step away after a decade plus newly married and me not on here as much was in her prenup. Hope all is well and that the animals are flourishing.

Glad you're doing well.  Hang in there Galway.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 06, 2022, 12:50:26 PM
Just a heads up that Saturday is National Pierogi Day.  If you don't have a potato ricer you better get one as well as break out your rolling pins.  :)
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Skatastrophy on October 06, 2022, 12:54:07 PM
Just a heads up that Saturday is National Pierogi Day.  If you don't have a potato ricer you better get one as well as break out your rolling pins.  :)

Idahoan potatoes and velveta. Don't @ me.
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Post by: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2022, 12:54:26 PM
Just a heads up that Saturday is National Pierogi Day.  If you don't have a potato ricer you better get one as well as break out your rolling pins.  :)

That’s not an American holiday.  Hard pass
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: jficke13 on October 06, 2022, 01:12:02 PM
but is a pierogi a sandwich?
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 06, 2022, 01:20:38 PM
but is a pierogi a sandwich?

Calzone, read the rules, young man!
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: lawdog77 on October 06, 2022, 01:31:35 PM
but is a pierogi a sandwich?
Side note: If you like pierogis,you have to attend Pierogi fest in Whiting Indiana in July.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: jficke13 on October 06, 2022, 02:24:58 PM
Side note: If you like pierogis,you have to attend Pierogi fest in Whiting Indiana in July.

Calzone Fest.
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: MuggsyB on October 06, 2022, 03:47:37 PM
but is a pierogi a sandwich?

Pierogies are of course part of the dumpling family and score quite well on the UDS (Ultimate Dumpling Scale).  But there is a caveat because people mess with the classic potato/onion filling.  It's also worth noting that dumpling ratings and competition is cut-throat and there are only a handful a people with expertise in dumplingology. 
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 06, 2022, 04:53:08 PM
Pierogies are of course part of the dumpling family and score quite well on the UDS (Ultimate Dumpling Scale).  But there is a caveat because people mess with the classic potato/onion filling.  It's also worth noting that dumpling ratings and competition is cut-throat and there are only a handful a people with expertise in dumplingology.

Boiled or pan fried
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 06, 2022, 05:39:28 PM
Boiled or pan fried

Both. 
Title: Re: It's National 🌮 Day!!
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on October 06, 2022, 10:55:48 PM
Pan fried with chopped up bacon. Yum!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F9co_a215H4/T49cDB_zTXI/AAAAAAAAD1o/BTpZbmxk8KA/s640/DSC01375.JPG)
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Post by: MuggsyB on October 06, 2022, 11:09:53 PM
Pan fried with chopped up bacon. Yum!

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F9co_a215H4/T49cDB_zTXI/AAAAAAAAD1o/BTpZbmxk8KA/s640/DSC01375.JPG)

You quick boil first and then pan fry.