MUScoop
MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Merit Matters on May 20, 2022, 10:02:19 AM
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MU82 posts a picture of Hitler and all rocket does is reference it and Rocky blames Rocket? What a farce.
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There’s a little known fact about scoop. You don’t have to post here.
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There’s a little known fact about scoop. You don’t have to post here.
Just saying I don’t think someone should get blamed for something they didn’t do.
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Quit playing in the snow and have a grape soda
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MU82 posts a picture of Hitler and all rocket does is reference it and Rocky blames Rocket? What a farce.
Look man, I reported the post at like 6am. He admitted he didn't read the thread. 82 gets plenty of threads locked. No one is keeping score except you.
This is a FREE message board and all complaints can be filed directly to the proper authorities, the people who run the FREE board.
Door is that'a'way ------>
Don't let it hit ya where the good lord split ya, aina?
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Look man, I reported the post at like 6am. He admitted he didn't read the thread. 82 gets plenty of threads locked. No one is keeping score except you.
This is a FREE message board and all complaints can be filed directly to the proper authorities, the people who run the FREE board.
Door is that'a'way ------>
Don't let it hit ya where the good lord split ya, aina?
He'll just be back with his 15th user name in a few weeks.
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roqqet can be blamed for a lot of things, but probably not Hitler.
Probably.
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roqqet can be blamed for a lot of things, but probably not Hitler.
Probably.
Hitler built roads but the lame stream media never mentions that
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roqqet can be blamed for a lot of things, but probably not Hitler.
Probably.
Biden blames Putin. And price gauging.
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Biden blames Putin. And price gauging.
I hate railroads, too
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Biden blames Putin. And price gauging.
Remind us, Lenny, how disappointed you are when people get tribalistic around here, and how you're above all that.
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Remind us, Lenny, how disappointed you are when people get tribalistic around here, and how you're above all that.
Remind us, Pakuni, about how and when you lost your sense of humor. Probably has something to do with giving into your worst (tribalistic) impulses.
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Biden blames Putin. And price gauging.
I blame Putin, too, but not for roqqet. Rupert is to blame for roqqet.
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I blame Putin, too, but not for roqqet. Rupert is to blame for roqqet.
🐷🐷
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Remind us, Pakuni, about how and when you lost your sense of humor. Probably has something to do with giving into your worst (tribalistic) impulses.
Sure you were joking, Lenny. Ha ha.
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He'll just be back with his 15th user name in a few weeks.
How many name changes are you up to Sultan? Five? Six?
Odd that you would comment on someone who oft changes his namr.
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How many name changes are you up to Sultan? Five? Six?
Odd that you would comment on someone who oft changes his namr.
Just two accounts. Haven’t used the other one for years.
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MU82 posts a picture of Hitler
Not many people know it, but the Fuhrer was a terrific dancer.
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Just two accounts. Haven’t used the other one for years.
Sultan of Fort Wayne
Sultan of something else
Fluffy
Clarissa
These weren’t all you?
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Sultan of Fort Wayne
Sultan of something else
Fluffy
Clarissa
These weren’t all you?
Its all the same account, he's just changing his display name, like anyone can.
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Its all the same account, he's just changing his display name, like anyone can.
Yep yep.
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Yep yep.
Well, he did ask you how many name changes, and you told him how many accounts you had.
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Well, he did ask you how many name changes, and you told him how many accounts you had.
I have no idea how many names I have used. Chico's OTOH has used multiple accounts because he keeps getting banned.
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Sure you were joking, Lenny. Ha ha.
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You got me Pak. I was being totally serious that Biden blamed Putin and price gouging for Adolf Hitler.
WTF?
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Joseph Mengele originally wanted to be a dentist!
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MU82 posts a picture of Hitler and all rocket does is reference it and Rocky blames Rocket? What a farce.
thank you buddy! i have been scratching my head about the same since last night...then i go to read a different thread, the baby food shortage and the same guy inserts poli out of no where and nothing is said. no way i can switch jerseys though, but it is the playoffs and the refs do tend to call it a little different. can you say home cookin?
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Look man, I reported the post at like 6am. He admitted he didn't read the thread. 82 gets plenty of threads locked. No one is keeping score except you.
This is a FREE message board and all complaints can be filed directly to the proper authorities, the people who run the FREE board.
Door is that'a'way ------>
Don't let it hit ya where the good lord split ya, aina?
seriously? did you report post #46 in baby formula too snow flake queenie? or how about all the others on your team that hurt your feelings...oh, but they post stuff that you agree with? classic. i barely scratched the surface of poli and you fill your diaper
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seriously? did you report post #46 in baby formula too snow flake queenie? or how about all the others on your team that hurt your feelings...oh, but they post stuff that you agree with? classic. i barely scratched the surface of poli and you fill your diaper
Did Joy Behar scare you in your dreams last night?
8 out of 10 “snow flake queenie”
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seriously? did you report post #46 in baby formula too snow flake queenie? or how about all the others on your team that hurt your feelings...oh, but they post stuff that you agree with? classic. i barely scratched the surface of poli and you fill your diaper
He admits his mistake, and here you are whining about it nearly a day later, and you call *him* the snowflake?
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Well, he did ask you how many name changes, and you told him how many accounts you had.
Yep yep.
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thank you buddy! i have been scratching my head about the same since last night...then i go to read a different thread, the baby food shortage and the same guy inserts poli out of no where and nothing is said. no way i can switch jerseys though, but it is the playoffs and the refs do tend to call it a little different. can you say home cookin?
I was more responsible for getting that thread locked than you were. I certainly didn’t post a picture of Adolf Hitler, however.
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rocket
It is a complete farce. There is no doubt that there is home cooking for the left wing side of things on scoop.
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This thread is a foot deep with snow.
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rocket
It is a complete farce. There is no doubt that there is home cooking for the left wing side of things on scoop.
Its not a democracy.
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Its not a democracy.
I’m still waiting for the new Marquette message board that was promised two years ago or so. Maybe that’s what Keefe is working on instead of doxxing posters?
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I’m still waiting for the new Marquette message board that was promised two years ago or so. Maybe that’s what Keefe is working on instead of doxxing posters?
In addition to, not instead of.
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rocket
It is a complete farce. There is no doubt that there is home cooking for the left wing side of things on scoop.
Are you saying Scoop favors the side that didn’t attempt a coup against the U. S. Government?
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Holy cow the self-victimization on this thread is embarrassing. Get over yourselves and stop posting here if you’re feeling so attacked.
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The guys with racist signatures feel they are treated unfairly?
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I’m still waiting for the new Marquette message board that was promised two years ago or so. Maybe that’s what Keefe is working on instead of doxxing posters?
Hey MUPoop made their last blog entry...nine months ago.
https://www.mupoop.com/
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Unlike some of you, I've actually got a life and don't obsess over things on scoop. When I get an email that something may be awry, I take a quick look and either take decisive action or not.
Y'all ought to stop letting politics define you. Maybe focus more effort on Marquette Basketball if you've got the time.
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Hey MUPoop made their last blog entry...nine months ago.
https://www.mupoop.com/
That’s Chico’s baby. He made that in response to the Cracked Sidewalks/Paint Touches/Anonymous Eagle joint venture that called for Marquette to move on from Wojo. Amazingly, he was wrong about that, too. His batting average of being wrong is wild
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He admits his mistake, and here you are whining about it nearly a day later, and you call *him* the snowflake?
That wasn't a "mistake" by 82.
But keep carrying water for your buddy.
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That wasn't a "mistake" by 82.
But keep carrying water for your buddy.
You should read the entire topic before triggering your response next time.
I’ll accept your apology but I’m not expecting you to humble yourself.
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Its not a democracy.
And yet rocket and Chicos want it overthrown.
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And yet rocket and Chicos want it overthrown.
A Scoop coup?
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A Scoop coup?
Scoo coup or Scoop coupe?
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British royal car dealership that only sells coupes? The house of Two-doors?
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Scoo coup or Scoop coupe?
Cracked me up, Tony. As for the answer to your question, I don't have the poop on whether it's a coop or a coup.
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Y'all ought to stop letting politics define you.
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I try to define myself by bad puns.
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I try to define myself by bad puns.
And dad jokes
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Potato, potahto.
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Let's hit Hitler where he lives
America never forgives
Let's force him to surrender
In incendiary splendor
Let's hit Hitler where he lives
-- Lyrics for "To A Sour Kraut," by Felix Unger
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seriously? did you report post #46 in baby formula too snow flake queenie? or how about all the others on your team that hurt your feelings...oh, but they post stuff that you agree with? classic. i barely scratched the surface of poli and you fill your diaper
I reported it because literal idiots like you try to ruin the board at every turn. If you want to have a full on politics discussion, that's fine, but legitimate threads get locked up all the time by your buddy 4ever. Of course, others do it as well.
I report them so that it doesn't turn into a dumpster fire mess and you have to cry 'unfair!" all the god damn time.
Personally, I can talk poli all day and run circles around your "arguments", but that's not the point. If a thread is about topic A and in two posts someone tries to hijack the thread with absolutely unrelated politics I report it. I've done it for people who argue about it from both sides of the spectrum.
It has nothing to do with fear, child.
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Say what you want about Hitler, but he did shoot Hitler.
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Say what you want about Hitler, but he did shoot Hitler.
Hitler is technically a hero for ending the Nazi regime with that assassination
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Say what you want about Hitler, but he did shoot Hitler.
That reminds me of a great bit Ricky Gervais did with Jerry Seinfeld.
"On the last day, the Russians were advancing. They were 200 yards down the road. He married Eva Braun. They had a cake and some champagne. Then retired to bed early. In the morning, he poisoned her and shot himself, and the gardener burned the bodies.
Now, say what you would about Hitler, but that’s a terrible honeymoon isn’t it?"
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Remember when Michael Jordan had a Hitler moustache? A bold choice for an underwear ad, but if anyone can bring back the "toothbrush" facial hair, I suppose it's his Airness.
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That reminds me of a great bit Ricky Gervais did with Jerry Seinfeld.
"On the last day, the Russians were advancing. They were 200 yards down the road. He married Eva Braun. They had a cake and some champagne. Then retired to bed early. In the morning, he poisoned her and shot himself, and the gardener burned the bodies.
Now, say what you would about Hitler, but that’s a terrible honeymoon isn’t it?"
He also killed his beloved German Shephard. That was totally unnecessary .
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He also killed his beloved German Shephard. That was totally unnecessary .
Wow, Rocket responsible not only for MJ's questionable grooming choices but also the untimely end of a German Shepherd. Not cool man.
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I reported it because literal idiots like you try to ruin the board at every turn. If you want to have a full on politics discussion, that's fine, but legitimate threads get locked up all the time by your buddy 4ever. Of course, others do it as well.
I report them so that it doesn't turn into a dumpster fire mess and you have to cry 'unfair!" all the god damn time.
Personally, I can talk poli all day and run circles around your "arguments", but that's not the point. If a thread is about topic A and in two posts someone tries to hijack the thread with absolutely unrelated politics I report it. I've done it for people who argue about it from both sides of the spectrum.
It has nothing to do with fear, child.
You “report” people to the moderator because you like to report people. Some people are like that. Most aren’t. Thank God.
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You “report” people to the moderator because you like to report people. Some people are like that. Most aren’t. Thank God.
We're in agreement here Lenny. I have been offended countless times - I have never reported anyone.
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We're in agreement here Lenny. I have been offended countless times - I have never reported anyone.
Collaborators with enemy occupiers, hall monitors in high school, etc. - tattletales in grade school, squealers after that. There’s a time and place for legit whistle blowing, but Scoop? LOL.
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Agreed. Much more productive to just clog up threads whining about how everyone is out to get you
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We're in agreement here Lenny. I have been offended countless times - I have never reported anyone.
Good grief, the report feature is a positive. I've even reported my own posts when I created a near identical thread to someone else so the mods would know to merge them. Sometimes reports call attention to problematic posts, sometimes they call attention to posts that are simply problems or errors. No need for an "I don't report" high horse, it's a feature to make the site better and should be used as such, and it makes moderating much easier as it's difficult to keep up with every post in every thread, even on a medium or low traffic site.
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Good grief, the report feature is a positive. I've even reported my own posts when I created a near identical thread to someone else so the mods would know to merge them. Sometimes reports call attention to problematic posts, sometimes they call attention to posts that are simply problems or errors. No need for an "I don't report" high horse, it's a feature to make the site better and should be used as such, and it makes moderating much easier as it's difficult to keep up with every post in every thread, even on a medium or low traffic site.
Eliminating the 'high horse' argument would cut about 50% of posts from scoop. Of course its probably 100% of the badger board....so I guess we are better than them.
:)
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Eliminating the 'high horse' argument would cut about 50% of posts from scoop. Of course its probably 100% of the badger board....so I guess we are better than them.
:)
Sounds like you're elevated on your equine.
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Good grief, the report feature is a positive. I've even reported my own posts when I created a near identical thread to someone else so the mods would know to merge them. Sometimes reports call attention to problematic posts, sometimes they call attention to posts that are simply problems or errors. No need for an "I don't report" high horse, it's a feature to make the site better and should be used as such, and it makes moderating much easier as it's difficult to keep up with every post in every thread, even on a medium or low traffic site.
If you self reported your own post calling every gun owner in the United States someone who celebrates mass shootings - I’ll agree you have a point. If not, I’ll stick with the idea it’s mostly a function for snowflakes to whine about posters they don’t like.
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If you self reported your own post calling every gun owner in the United States someone who celebrates mass shootings - I’ll agree you have a point. If not, I’ll stick with the idea it’s mostly a function for snowflakes to whine about posters they don’t like.
You're right there should be no moderation.
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The moderators have actually asked for people to report posts because they can't read everything. This is a very lightly moderated board. Reporting a post that is out of bounds for whatever reason isn't a morality play.
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I report posts just to give the Mods something to do. If they're not editing/deleting/banning, then why are we paying them so much?
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You're right there should be no moderation.
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Not what I said. Hope you’re more careful and actually read/comprehend posts before you hit the “report” button. LOL
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Not what I said. Hope you’re more careful and actually read/comprehend posts before you hit the “report” button. LOL
Hards is such an internet and real life badass, he don't need no report button. He'll fight you, just like Brandon.
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This sidebar on reporting posts is fine and all, but can we please get back to the point of the thread which is blaming roqqet for Hitler?
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Hards is such an internet and real life badass, he don't need no report button. He'll fight you, just like Brandon.
I love how you boys are always ride each other's dicks. It's so darn cute.
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This sidebar on reporting posts is fine and all, but can we please get back to the point of the thread which is blaming roqqet for Hitler?
I don't think that's the point of the thread. I think the point OP made is that Rocky is losing his touch as a moderator in his old age, which I think is indisputable.
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Not what I said. Hope you’re more careful and actually read/comprehend posts before you hit the “report” button. LOL
They've explicitly asked for help. I know you probably can't remember everything at your age, but Sultan also just pointed it out as well.
I only report posts that take the thread incredibly far off topic. Content doesn't bother me, but carpet bombing threads to intentionally derail a conversation will catch a report from me without regard for the name on the left side of the post.
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Rocky is losing
FIFY
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I blame mental health
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I love how you boys are always ride each other's dicks. It's so darn cute.
Homophobe.
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Homophobe.
I just told you it was cute, not disgusting, calm down Sir Galahad.
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I just told you it was cute, not disgusting, calm down Sir Galahad.
I had a family friend who had a cat named Galahad. And while I like cats, this thing was quite possible the biggest dickhead feline in existence. Cranky, irritable, and hell bent on torturing and fighting with their other cat and both their dogs. I found it hilarious given its name
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I blame mental health
I blame this fun-loving scamp:
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Good grief, the report feature is a positive. I've even reported my own posts when I created a near identical thread to someone else so the mods would know to merge them. Sometimes reports call attention to problematic posts, sometimes they call attention to posts that are simply problems or errors. No need for an "I don't report" high horse, it's a feature to make the site better and should be used as such, and it makes moderating much easier as it's difficult to keep up with every post in every thread, even on a medium or low traffic site.
I get your point.
I was referring to posts that offend me is some way. If that is the case, I give myself 2 options. I can respond in kind - or - I can close Scoop. Well there is a 3rd option as well - quit whining and recognize that everything isn't about me.
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I get your point.
I was referring to posts that offend me is some way. If that is the case, I give myself 2 options. I can respond in kind - or - I can close Scoop. Well there is a 3rd option as well - quit whining and recognize that everything isn't about me.
You should try number 3 sometime. First time for everything.
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I blame light rail.
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come on man! covid and that dude who started the war
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FIFY
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Good piece on Americans relationship to guns that is irrational but comforting in modern society that can feel to some like its all beyond their control:
"To grasp the deep resonance of this American Carnage message in certain circles, it helps to understand what it’s like to grow up in the gun-culture bubble — in families and communities who believe that more firearms equal more safety. People outside this world often cannot fathom such an equation. With frustration bordering on fury, they point to studies and data suggesting that owning a gun is more likely to result in the death of a loved one — or oneself — than in the successful defense against an assailant or intruder.
But facts and figures can’t compete with the gut-level craving for a sense of control over one’s surroundings and fate. Consider the difference between people’s attitudes toward flying and driving a car. Statistically, the latter is far more dangerous. But air travel tends to unsettle or even terrify people more, in part because of the feeling that they have no control over the situation. With driving, by contrast, people tell themselves that they are masters of their surroundings, that they will always have the skill, sense and panther-like reflexes to avoid a collision. Even really awful drivers believe this.
Plenty of gun owners operate with an even stronger delusion of being the exception to the rule — the singular driver in perfect control, if you will. They send friends and family members news stories about the rare instances in which an armed citizen took down an intruder or potential assailant. They tell themselves that, in a situation like Uvalde — or Buffalo or Parkland or Las Vegas or Pittsburgh or El Paso — they would be the one to beat the odds, to emerge not just unscathed but quite possibly a hero."
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How many people that keep guns for "safety" EVER use guns to actually keep themselves or their families safe?
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I never heard the driving/flying comparison to gun ownership. That makes sense. It's flawed logic but I understand the thought process. So is the better path to gun control focusing on the benefits of handguns for self defense over an AR rifle?
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I never heard the driving/flying comparison to gun ownership. That makes sense. It's flawed logic but I understand the thought process. So is the better path to gun control focusing on the benefits of handguns for self defense over an AR rifle?
The best way to step mass shootings is for teachers to quit teaching wokeness and CRT and start teaching more American values
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The best way to stop mass shootings is for PARENTS start teaching more American values
FIFY ! ! ! 8-)
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Like those paragons of virtue in Oxford.
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How many people that keep guns for "safety" EVER use guns to actually keep themselves or their families safe?
most(if not all) don't EVER want to use guns to keep themselves or their families safe. they are however, their first and best first responder. because it still our constitutional right, some people choose to arm themselves. no, not everyone should arm themselves just because they can. they should be trained to some level for their own safety and that of their family's.
i'm getting broken into, my family is being assaulted and worse-a phone call? how long a wait, not to mention how badly the texas police first responders f'ed up that situation. too bad there wasn't a capable police liaison or teacher trained and armed with a gun. that once in a life time situation could have saved a lot of lives...woulda, coulda...
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most(if not all) don't EVER want to use guns to keep themselves or their families safe. they are however, their first and best first responder. because it still our constitutional right, some people choose to arm themselves. no, not everyone should arm themselves just because they can. they should be trained to some level for their own safety and that of their family's.
i'm getting broken into, my family is being assaulted and worse-a phone call? how long a wait, not to mention how badly the texas police first responders f'ed up that situation. too bad there wasn't a capable police liaison or teacher trained and armed with a gun. that once in a life time situation could have saved a lot of lives...woulda, coulda...
Well, it’s clear the cops won’t help unless it’s a black guy breaking in.
Who will pay to train teachers? Texas hates paying teachers to teach. Now they’re going to pay for them to be trained.
Gun Lives Matter
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most(if not all) don't EVER want to use guns to keep themselves or their families safe. they are however, their first and best first responder. because it still our constitutional right, some people choose to arm themselves. no, not everyone should arm themselves just because they can. they should be trained to some level for their own safety and that of their family's.
i'm getting broken into, my family is being assaulted and worse-a phone call? how long a wait, not to mention how badly the texas police first responders f'ed up that situation. too bad there wasn't a capable police liaison or teacher trained and armed with a gun. that once in a life time situation could have saved a lot of lives...woulda, coulda...
You are so stupid. I can’t believe that anyone after this incident would actually suggest “more guns” is the best repose.
But…you know…there’s always rocket.
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i gave a very reasonable, cool headed response and the vitriol and lame ass remarks from the usual suspects who think they own the board...shocker. you guys(used loosely) are sounding more and more like the ladies on the view. grow a pair snowflakes. so many mistakes were made in texas that could have prevented tragedy. you're not going to change the 2nd amendment over this so let's talk about reasonable measures that would actually work instead of your situational bandwagon jumping because, umm, that's what we're supposed to say, duhhhh, erp
who's gonna train the teachers? oh, i don't know, but there's still $100 million out there burning holes in school budgets. how about we take some time away from all the social b.s wasting time and teach them how to save lives. i'm sure there would be more people than you could count who would train the teachers how to defend our kids-i can't believe anyone would even question this-who would train the teachers...seriously??
lesson #1-lock all doors from the outside getting in
lesson #2-check to see all doors are locked from the outside to get in
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no, not everyone should arm themselves just because they can. they should be trained to some level for their own safety and that of their family's.
Seriously, I am glad you favor a law making training a prerequisite for gun ownership. That would help solve a lot of problems right there.
You want to own a gun, you must take a series of training courses from a certified professional in the field. No exceptions. No loopholes. We can even call it the "rocket law," if you want.
Now add in universal background checks, red-flag laws, must be 21 to own a gun (just like must be 21 to drink), laws mandating that guns must stay locked up in a safe in homes that have minor children, no bump stocks, no guns allowed in drinking establishments, and no weapons that can fire dozens of rounds in seconds ... and we have a good start toward legislation that might actually save a few lives without the "they're taking away all of our guns" hysteria.
Well done on the "rocket law," sir.
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"Arming the teachers" and "make sure the doors are locked" are not serious responses to this issue. They are dumb talking points made by dumb people because they know their audience will lap it up and vomit it back out later.
There are sensible ways to attempt to control dangerous people's access to guns. Ones that fall within the bounds of the second amendment. No right is absolute. Maybe its time we try some of those because the other stuff we are doing just isn't working.
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Seriously, I am glad you favor a law making training a prerequisite for gun ownership. That would help solve a lot of problems right there.
You want to own a gun, you must take a series of training courses from a certified professional in the field. No exceptions. No loopholes. We can even call it the "rocket law," if you want.
Now add in universal background checks, red-flag laws, must be 21 to own a gun (just like must be 21 to drink), laws mandating that guns must stay locked up in a safe in homes that have minor children, no bump stocks, no guns allowed in drinking establishments, and no weapons that can fire dozens of rounds in seconds ... and we have a good start toward legislation that might actually save a few lives without the "they're taking away all of our guns" hysteria.
Well done on the "rocket law," sir.
How about a buy back law, where people can turn in their guns for a free home security system with monitoring.
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i gave a very reasonable, cool headed response and the vitriol and lame ass remarks from the usual suspects who think they own the board...shocker. you guys(used loosely) are sounding more and more like the ladies on the view. grow a pair snowflakes. so many mistakes were made in texas that could have prevented tragedy. you're not going to change the 2nd amendment over this so let's talk about reasonable measures that would actually work instead of your situational bandwagon jumping because, umm, that's what we're supposed to say, duhhhh, erp
who's gonna train the teachers? oh, i don't know, but there's still $100 million out there burning holes in school budgets. how about we take some time away from all the social b.s wasting time and teach them how to save lives. i'm sure there would be more people than you could count who would train the teachers how to defend our kids-i can't believe anyone would even question this-who would train the teachers...seriously??
lesson #1-lock all doors from the outside getting in
lesson #2-check to see all doors are locked from the outside to get in
Yes, you’re clearly not parroting any talking points whatsoever.
And no, I don’t want to train teachers how to use firearms to protect their students. The school budgets BS you’re spouting is more nonsensical garbage. If there is $100 million burning a hole, and there isn’t, that money goes to education, the same education that terrifies you. How about we take money out of the law enforcement budget since it seems these good guys with guns are overpaid?
We have a gun problem in this country because of responses like this. More guns and more pro-gun rhetoric has failed this nation for decades but keep talking about idiotic things like arming teachers and freaking locking doors. Wonder why it’s so easy for bad guys to get guns? Because we protect guns more than we protect kids and make it easy to access them. Enjoy more dead kids in this country because God, Guns, America
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I mean, John freaking Voight of all people thinks we need stricter ownership and training requirements.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1530533221980594176
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"Arming the teachers" and "make sure the doors are locked" are not serious responses to this issue. They are dumb talking points made by dumb people because they know their audience will lap it up and vomit it back out later.
There are sensible ways to attempt to control dangerous people's access to guns. Ones that fall within the bounds of the second amendment. No right is absolute. Maybe its time we try some of those because the other stuff we are doing just isn't working.
if they are talking points, at least they are "points" in an attempt to open up a real discussion, but you guys, with your vitriolic snap backs only inhibit what could be an open and honest discussion at all. so what's so wrong about locking the doors and training some teachers to be the potential first lines of defense. even though the police were on the scene very quickly(minutes), they obviously proved to be horribly and inept
just a day after the tragic school shooting, chuck schumer blocked a potential bipartisan vote to attempt to make schools more safe-
"Schumer blocked the Luke and Alex School Safety Act to push a doomed vote on another piece of legislation, the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act, which passed the House after the racially motivated May 14 shooting at a Buffalo grocery store that left 10 dead"
demagoging as usual saying it would only put more guns into schools. we need to start somewhere, but the pols are afraid someone may get credit for doing something good. in this case, the "d's" have the power, but are not willing to help because it wasn't their idea
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/111
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we need to start somewhere
Agreed, so let's start with "rocket's law":
You want to own a gun, you must take a series of training courses from a certified professional in the field. No exceptions. No loopholes.
Thank you for your contribution.
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It gets my vote.
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I mean, John freaking Voight of all people thinks we need stricter ownership and training requirements.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1530533221980594176
We need less guns
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Agreed, so let's start with "rocket's law":
You want to own a gun, you must take a series of training courses from a certified professional in the field. No exceptions. No loopholes.
Thank you for your contribution.
As I said in the other thread, there is way more common ground than most people think.
* Universal background check
* Red flag laws
* Mandatory waiting period
* Training requirements
I think all of those are favored by strong majorities.
Really, a simple system like driver's licenses would greatly improve gun safety:
* Initial licensing process to prove you are a responsible owner, which includes the mandatory training requirement above
* Annual owners tag
* Periodic re-training requirements
* Insurance requirement
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if they are talking points, at least they are "points" in an attempt to open up a real discussion, but you guys, with your vitriolic snap backs only inhibit what could be an open and honest discussion at all. so what's so wrong about locking the doors and training some teachers to be the potential first lines of defense. even though the police were on the scene very quickly(minutes), they obviously proved to be horribly and inept
just a day after the tragic school shooting, chuck schumer blocked a potential bipartisan vote to attempt to make schools more safe-
"Schumer blocked the Luke and Alex School Safety Act to push a doomed vote on another piece of legislation, the Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act, which passed the House after the racially motivated May 14 shooting at a Buffalo grocery store that left 10 dead"
demagoging as usual saying it would only put more guns into schools. we need to start somewhere, but the pols are afraid someone may get credit for doing something good. in this case, the "d's" have the power, but are not willing to help because it wasn't their idea
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/111
You do not have the ability to have an open and honest discussion because even when you are shown to be wrong, you claim to be right. That’s the sign of an automaton. Not an intelligent man.
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We need less guns
Which would be the effect of stronger ownership and training requirements. And those that have guns would be more likely to be responsible owners.
I can't believe I am agreeing with John Voight about something.
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You do not have the ability to have an open and honest discussion because even when you are shown to be wrong, you claim to be right. That’s the sign of an automaton. Not an intelligent man.
That's rich, from you.
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So because the professionals who are trained on how to use firearms and handle an active shooter situation had absolutely no idea how to (or interest in doing so) handle an active shooter situation, our solution is to…train teachers how to use firearms for an active shooter situation?
Hmm.
But yeah. These teachers aren’t asked to do enough while being terribly underpaid. Let’s add “decide if the stranger walking into your room might have a firearm and shoot them to death before they might shoot you and then shoot all the kids in your classroom” to their job responsibilities.
As if there aren’t already problems with teacher shortages.
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Rocket, it seems like you’re demonstrating the same flying/driving fallacy with guns—it’s not based on rationality or logic, but emotion and the desire for control. It’s understandable. But we shouldn’t organize policy decisions around such fallacies.
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https://news.yahoo.com/north-dakota-gop-sen-kevin-142641928.html
"A Morning Consult/Politico poll conducted immediately after the Uvalde shooting showed that 65 percent of respondents either "strongly" or "somewhat" backed additional gun control in the country, while 28 percent opposed such actions.
In the same poll, a staggering 88 percent of respondents supported background checks on gun sales, with 73 percent of respondents "strongly" endorsing the position.
But despite most surveys in recent years consistently showing near-universal support for these measures, Republicans have remained unmoved.
When asked this week if he could get behind any bipartisan gun control legislation, GOP Sen. Kevin Cramer — a former House member who defeated pro-gun Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp in 2018 — told The New York Times that he would suffer at the polls if he did so.
"Most would probably throw me out of office," he told the newspaper."
Chickensh!ts.
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Once again, I disagree with most of you. You believe the polls and think a huge majority was sensible gun laws. A large number of those people are simply lying so they can feel good about themselves.
If you voted for candidates that want no restrictions- you are choosing guns over kids.
I realize that is a very simplistic statement, but it is absolutely true.
I have always made fun of ‘one issue’ voters, but this is beyond that. Our children are dying. The choice is simple in November. Vote for guns or vote for our kids. There is no middle ground.
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Our current system allows for minority rule. The will of the American people is being subverted. This should piss everyone off, regardless of their political leanings.
Gerrymandering, primary elections, voter suppression, unlimited senate/house terms, and the electoral college all combine to create a system where the far right is overepresented in our government and holds the rest of us hostage. 50% of our senators are catering to the wishes of 10% of our population.
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I blame jumping worms.
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I blame jumping worms.
19 fourth graders are dead. Not really the time for jokes.
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There is plenty of blame to go around.
I agree, lots of change needed. Period.
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19 fourth graders are dead. Not really the time for jokes.
Not making fun of this at all. Criticizing the All R’s Bad crowd. Otherwise, a huge issue.
Just a stupid as saying if you are pro abortion, you are pro murder. Equally stupid.
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Our current system allows for minority rule. The will of the American people is being subverted. This should piss everyone off, regardless of their political leanings.
Gerrymandering, primary elections, voter suppression, unlimited senate/house terms, and the electoral college all combine to create a system where the far right is overepresented in our government and holds the rest of us hostage. 50% of our senators are catering to the wishes of 10% of our population.
Yup, yup, yup.
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Not making fun of this at all. Criticizing the All R’s Bad crowd. Otherwise, a huge issue.
Just a stupid as saying if you are pro abortion, you are pro murder. Equally stupid.
List for me below the federal R's that will vote for any gun safety laws. I'll wait.
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List for me below the federal R's that will vote for any gun safety laws. I'll wait.
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4 out of 10
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Third thread on this topic being locked in 3….2….1…
Look forward to this convo being transferred and sensibly discussed in the Hauser thread
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On brand pathetic
Ed: not your post, wags, yours just popped in between
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Third thread on this topic being locked in 3….2….1…
Look forward to this convo being transferred and sensibly discussed in the Hauser thread
If ever there was a thread that has run its course it's that one.
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That's rich, from you.
Thanks!
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I still blame rocket for hitler.
Or do I blame hitler for rockets?
Doesn't really matter does it.