MUScoop
MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: MuggsyB on April 22, 2022, 01:30:44 PM
-
I honestly don't know much about boxing but didn't realize Tyson Fury is undefeated. Will this fight tomorrow be competitive?
-
I honestly don't know much about boxing but didn't realize Tyson Fury is undefeated. Will this fight tomorrow be competitive?
I think he's kind of been hurt by the fact that the Heavyweight class is a bit watered down. He's definitely top 10 of all time in his class, probably sniffing around top 5. Behind Foreman, Holmes, and Ali. Then you got that cluster of Lennox Lewis, Joe Frazer, Tyson, and Fury, IMO.
I don't think tomorrow will be much of a fight. I would really like to see him take on Usyk, thats about all he's got left.
-
I think he's kind of been hurt by the fact that the Heavyweight class is a bit watered down. He's definitely top 10 of all time in his class, probably sniffing around top 5. Behind Foreman, Holmes, and Ali. Then you got that cluster of Lennox Lewis, Joe Frazer, Tyson, and Fury, IMO.
I don't think tomorrow will be much of a fight. I would really like to see him take on Usyk, thats about all he's got left.
I admit I couldn't identify Fury if he sat down next to me, it's been so long since I watched boxing.
But are you really saying that this guy is one of the top 10 heavyweights in the history of boxing? I'm not doubting you because I don't know, but that's something.
-
While it's always hard to compare eras, not sure I'd rate him top 10, maybe 11-15. Other than Wilder, who besides being a big puncher was very mechanical, not particularly high skilled, his best win is against Wlad Klitschko, but he was also a couple years past his prime. He took about a 3 year break in his career to sort out some mental health issues, so that also works against him in an all time list, he only has 32 pro fights to this point. As he accomplishes more I could see him breaking into a top 10, but not yet.
Fighters I would rate higher in no particular order due to skills and accomplishments, Ali, Louis, Marciano, Frazier, Foreman, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Teofilo Stevenson, Holmes.
-
I admit I couldn't identify Fury if he sat down next to me, it's been so long since I watched boxing.
But are you really saying that this guy is one of the top 10 heavyweights in the history of boxing? I'm not doubting you because I don't know, but that's something.
He's REALLY damn good, and just has an incredible chin. The worst thing for his legacy will be the weakness of the weight class, which is out of his control. Its not like he's ducked anyone.
While it's always hard to compare eras, not sure I'd rate him top 10, maybe 11-15. Other than Wilder, who besides being a big puncher was very mechanical, not particularly high skilled, his best win is against Wlad Klitschko, but he was also a couple years past his prime. He took about a 3 year break in his career to sort out some mental health issues, so that also works against him in an all time list, he only has 32 pro fights to this point. As he accomplishes more I could see him breaking into a top 10, but not yet.
Fighters I would rate higher in no particular order due to skills and accomplishments, Ali, Louis, Marciano, Frazier, Foreman, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Teofilo Stevenson, Holmes.
That Klitschko fight was also before Fury really had come into his own as a fighter, and he still dominated it.
Nobody is gonna confuse him for Joe Lewis, but Derek Chisora was a really respected fighter who got a title shot against Klitschko in Chisora's prime, and Fury absolutely took him apart twice.
There are a bunch of decent to good heavyweights in the last decade who have 1 or 2 losses total in their career, and they are all Fury.
I expect Whyte to be the same sort of situation as Otto Wallin or Tom Schwarz
-
Okay. Again, I have no idea but he is 6'9 280 with apparently solid overall skills. I wonder how good Shaq would have been as a boxer? If you can stick a consistent jab with that height and length it can't be easy for your opponent. From the little I've seen he can unload his right hand with lethal force pretty consistently. I suppose it's too late to add him to my entourage and staff of bodyguards. :)
-
He's REALLY damn good, and just has an incredible chin. The worst thing for his legacy will be the weakness of the weight class, which is out of his control. Its not like he's ducked anyone.
That Klitschko fight was also before Fury really had come into his own as a fighter, and he still dominated it.
Nobody is gonna confuse him for Joe Lewis, but Derek Chisora was a really respected fighter who got a title shot against Klitschko in Chisora's prime, and Fury absolutely took him apart twice.
There are a bunch of decent to good heavyweights in the last decade who have 1 or 2 losses total in their career, and they are all Fury.
I expect Whyte to be the same sort of situation as Otto Wallin or Tom Schwarz
No doubt he's been the best HW the last 5 years or so, but when trying to rank him from a historical standpoint, I said 11-15, and listed 10 I would rank above him due to overall accomplishments, longevity, impact on the sport, etc.
His 3 year hiatus after beating Wlad takes away from his overall standing in my opinion. Only 5 real world title fights and 3 of those against Wilder.
-
One hell of a horse and TV series, aina?
-
While it's always hard to compare eras, not sure I'd rate him top 10, maybe 11-15. Other than Wilder, who besides being a big puncher was very mechanical, not particularly high skilled, his best win is against Wlad Klitschko, but he was also a couple years past his prime. He took about a 3 year break in his career to sort out some mental health issues, so that also works against him in an all time list, he only has 32 pro fights to this point. As he accomplishes more I could see him breaking into a top 10, but not yet.
Fighters I would rate higher in no particular order due to skills and accomplishments, Ali, Louis, Marciano, Frazier, Foreman, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Teofilo Stevenson, Holmes.
Fury has size and skills and definitely is in top 20 all time He does get knocked down a lot though. However he does have a strong chin and a lot of endurance .
-
Three of the 5 greatest pound for pound fighters ever were under 150 lbs. :)