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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 20, 2022, 06:06:00 PM
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Contemplating retirement.
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1516915441624662016?s=21&t=LPU8QE_vItoutDvbyMCEZA
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Contemplating retirement.
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1516915441624662016?s=21&t=LPU8QE_vItoutDvbyMCEZA
Now this is news.
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Wow......ughhhh. Say it ain't so.
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Done deal?
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
Sources: Jay Wright is expected to step down at Villanova.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanHoops
Have been told the same. Villanova’s Jay Wright leaning towards retiring, per sources.
John Fanta @John_Fanta
Breaking News: Jay Wright is retiring, I am told by sources.
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yikes
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Running from Shaka
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Called an impromptu team meeting for tonight, per Norlander.
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@ShamsCharania
Fordham University coach Kyle Neptune is expected to be the choice to succeed two-time NCAA champion Jay Wright as the new head coach of Villanova, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.
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just insane news. this came out of NO WHERE. no nova fan thought it was a possibilty hed retire before 65
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Crazy. Health issue?
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It honestly makes sense. Their are 3 real real guys on that roster. Whitmore, Dixon, and Moore. And maybe Armstrong
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Tough to get a good coach at this time. Luckily there’s a former Final Four coach out there with Big East experience.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7DYp20WgAcnMnb.jpg)
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Tough to get a good coach at this time. Luckily there’s a former Final Four coach out there with Big East experience.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7DYp20WgAcnMnb.jpg)
Literal Lol.
Sad news if true.
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It honestly makes sense. Their are 3 real real guys on that roster. Whitmore, Dixon, and Moore. And maybe Armstrong
Longino would been one of those players that woulda really developed under Wright.
Think he still does end up a hell of a player.
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Longino would been one of those players that woulda really developed under Wright.
Think he still does end up a hell of a player.
I assume Nova has a solid recruiting class. Anyone we can snag?
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Hope all is well with Coach Wrights Health. Will be interesting to hear the whole story. Maybe this was in the works for a while. Long time assistant gets a Head Coaching Job and experience, then goes put in as a smooth transition replacement.
Overall, this retirement does not help The Big East Cause.
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Wojo to Nova
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Wardle to Nova.
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Dude is 60 and has done things at Villanova that will be hard for any replacement to replicate. Life’s too short to be grinding on the sideline until you’re a corpse.
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It honestly makes sense. Their are 3 real real guys on that roster. Whitmore, Dixon, and Moore. And maybe Armstrong
I would imagine Wright isn't retiring because he's worried about having a down year.
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Wardle to Nova.
So far, this is the best suggestion 😂
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Makes sense now that almost a third of the conference games against Wojo, Steele, and Jordan won’t be sure wins.
No, but seriously good for Wright. He didn’t make it all about himself like Coach K did. They say he won’t come back but I could see Wright coaching in the NBA in a few years.
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Jay Wright to the Lakers…
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Jay Wright is what every school wants in a HC and I will miss him being part of the BE. If the reports are true, he gets a standing ovation from me for a job well done. Not rile Farley up, but he is everything that I think Shaka will be to MU over the next 15+ years.
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Jay Wright is what every school wants in a HC and I will miss him being part of the BE. If the reports are true, he gets a standing ovation from me for a job well done. Not rile Farley up, but he is everything that I think Shaka will be to MU over the next 15+ years.
Well said.
And rile Farley up.
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Big loss for the conference. I wonder if Fox has sent over a huge deal to his agent to replace Lavin.
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Hey he didn't go on a months long farewell tour a la Coach K. Can this still be considered a legit retirement?
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ESPN reporting Kyle Neptune is the new coach. One year at Fordham with a 16-16 record, but 10 years as Villanova assistant before that.
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Big loss for the conference. I wonder if Fox has sent over a huge deal to his agent to replace Lavin.
I think he does TV for a year or two and then takes over for Greg Gard after Gard gets the Knicks job
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Big loss for the conference. I wonder if Fox has sent over a huge deal to his agent to replace Lavin.
Huge loss. Irreplaceable. I hope he doesn't have a health issue.
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Jay Wright is first-class all the way. Everything you’d want a college coach to be. Tough day fir Nova and the Big East.
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Huge loss. Irreplaceable. I hope he doesn't have a health issue.
Now this is a disaster for college hoops and I think NIL may be the culprit. I've heard rumors that Wright was the most outspoken coach against NIL in the Big East. May not be interested in playing that game
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Now this is a disaster for college hoops and I think NIL may be the culprit. I've heard rumors that Wright was the most outspoken coach against NIL in the Big East. May not be interested in playing that game
This isn't a disaster for college hoops.
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This isn't a disaster for college hoops.
Sure it is. But college hoops will endure and someone else will rise to take Jay's place as top coach
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Sure it is. But college hoops will endure and someone else will rise to take Jay's place as top coach
Right. So it’s not a disaster. It’s how things always operate. Good coaches retire. New coaches rise up.
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Now this is a disaster for college hoops and I think NIL may be the culprit. I've heard rumors that Wright was the most outspoken coach against NIL in the Big East. May not be interested in playing that game
That's an interesting point. Maybe I'm right and Wright agrees with my analysis . :)
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It was Marquette’s season sweep that pushed him over the edge.
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Hey he didn't go on a months long farewell tour a la Coach K. Can this still be considered a legit retirement?
lol. So true.K's ego is so big he just could not go off without fanfare and BS.
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ESPN reporting Kyle Neptune is the new coach. One year at Fordham with a 16-16 record, but 10 years as Villanova assistant before that.
He did a hell of a job at Fordham considering what he took over.
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Now this is a disaster for college hoops and I think NIL may be the culprit. I've heard rumors that Wright was the most outspoken coach against NIL in the Big East. May not be interested in playing that game
NIL is the culprit. He is upset he has to be stuck with the best class in 2022.
His classes
2021- 23
2020- 108
2019- 5
2018- 9
2017- 28
2016- 45
2015 - 29
2014- 48
2013- 36
Jay Wright on NIL via google ”I think the impact of NIL with the transfer portal is going to — eventually when we get it all figured out — benefit college basketball." “Because, I think, guys in the past that have had to leave early because they just had to do it for their families are going to be able to make money and stay, and you’re going to see older players playing.”“If you remember back in the old Big East — I remember Patrick Ewing against Ralph Sampson, the Virginia-Georgetown game — and those guys would have never been in college (for four years) these days,” ”You might see that again in college basketball. I think it’s going to be great for college basketball.“
Some dude's just want to retire loaded at 60.
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Contemplating retirement.
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1516915441624662016?s=21&t=LPU8QE_vItoutDvbyMCEZA
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Thank you, Coach Wright. For being the embodiment of class. Nothing but respect for you. Enjoy your well earned retirement.
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Dude is 60 and has done things at Villanova that will be hard for any replacement to replicate. Life’s too short to be grinding on the sideline until you’re a corpse.
Amen. Wife and I were talking about this yesterday. Good on him for walking away when he's still young enough to enjoy his retirement and life. Good riddance to the bitter clingers, good job Jay Wright. Go have fun, man.
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Amen. Wife and I were talking about this yesterday. Good on him for walking away when he's still young enough to enjoy his retirement and life. Good riddance to the bitter clingers, good job Jay Wright. Go have fun, man.
Too many successful college coaches are afraid to be Bear Bryant. Retire and die a month later.
I hope he stays retired and gets into TV. I think he’d be great at it. My hunch is, he’s coaching again in a few years as someone will make him a godfather offer, looking at you Kentucky
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NIL is the culprit. He is upset he has to be stuck with the best class in 2022.
His classes
2021- 23
2020- 108
2019- 5
2018- 9
2017- 28
2016- 45
2015 - 29
2014- 48
2013- 36
Jay Wright on NIL via google ”I think the impact of NIL with the transfer portal is going to — eventually when we get it all figured out — benefit college basketball." “Because, I think, guys in the past that have had to leave early because they just had to do it for their families are going to be able to make money and stay, and you’re going to see older players playing.”“If you remember back in the old Big East — I remember Patrick Ewing against Ralph Sampson, the Virginia-Georgetown game — and those guys would have never been in college (for four years) these days,” ”You might see that again in college basketball. I think it’s going to be great for college basketball.“
Some dude's just want to retire loaded at 60.
That's all fine, I don't think jay's public comments mean he privately hasn't expressed frustration with the new landscape. Being good for the sport and being preferred by Wright are two different things
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Hey Rico,
Not to bring up Al to you, but he was the ultimate retire, IMO. Stepped away at 47 and never looked back. I have one gripe with Jay Wight's decision, I am two years younger than he is and looking at another ten years of work and I am jealous. Truthfully, I do not jealous bone in my body, and I hope he has a more successful and fun retirement than he the 21 years he spent at Nova.
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Hey Rico,
Not to bring up Al to you, but he was the ultimate retire, IMO. Stepped away at 47 and never looked back. I have one gripe with Jay Wight's decision, I am two years younger than he is and looking at another ten years of work and I am jealous. Truthfully, I do not jealous bone in my body, and I hope he has a more successful and fun retirement than he the 21 years he spent at Nova.
Al burned pretty hot, so his retirement made a lot of sense. No way he survived another decade coaching. I think it says a lot about Al and Jay to leave sooner than later
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Rico
I burn really hot, just missing a comma in my net worth.
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Rico
I burn really hot, just missing a comma in my net worth.
I hear yeah, Goose
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Rico
I burn really hot, just missing a comma in my net worth.
You should have tsmith manage your portfolio. He's never been wrong.
And I wish you luck in retiring in 5-8 years, not 10.
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Zigs
I would rather work 25 more years.
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Im 25 and will be retiring when i die. enjoy ur 70s goose
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You should have tsmith manage your portfolio. He's never been wrong.
And I wish you luck in retiring in 5-8 years, not 10.
Yep him and Lenny Dykstra. Peas in an investing pod.
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You should have tsmith manage your portfolio. He's never been wrong.
Dumberest
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Alright, it's 420 and I'm feeling verbose.
The first time I saw Wright coach, it was in 2002 vs MU. Coaches v cancer game. Wife and I were staying in Algoma on our one and only trip to Door County. Went to a local townie bar in Algoma, $2 bottles, good food.
MU won handily. But you could tell that Wright had "it". Whether it was his style, coolness under pressure, or whatever, I came away impressed.
I've been a Villanova is my 2nd favorite team for 20 years. Cheers to Jay Wright.
💨💨💨
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Johnny B
I want to enjoy my 50’s first, but thanks!
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Zigs
It is 4/20. It my late brother in laws bday and he enjoyed sharing his bday on 4/20 a great deal. He was one of my all time favorite people and he would be celebrating his 45th today. I am celebrating his life and our friendship at the moment.
Enjoying Jamo, his favorite Irish Whiskey.
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Zigs
It is 4/20. It my late brother in laws bday and he enjoyed sharing his bday on 4/20 a great deal. He was one of my all time favorite people and he would be celebrating his 45th today. I am celebrating his life and our friendship at the moment.
Enjoying Jamo, his favorite Irish Whiskey.
Cheers, Goose and BIL.
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Crazy. Health issue?
Nope. He's done it for 35 years and he's probably tired of the year round grind. He's accomplished more than just about any coach in college history and with nary a peep about anything outside the lines at any point of his Hall of Fame career. In my opinion, the best coach in today's game just retired.
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With 20/20 hindsight, most of us here who are old enough to remember Al say, "How cool that he retired on top, in his late-40s, on his own terms, with decades ahead of him for a second act that didn't involve coaching again."
I'm betting Jay Wright is today's version of this. He's rich, he's been coaching for a bazillion years, he's ready for the next chapter ... and it doesn't include coaching some desperate NBA team 3 years from now.
I'll miss having such a classy, talented coach in the Big East.
And no, TAMU ... you and I agree on a LOT ... but this isn't a disaster for college basketball, the Big East or anything else. Guys retire all the time.
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Al burned pretty hot, so his retirement made a lot of sense. No way he survived another decade coaching. I think it says a lot about Al and Jay to leave sooner than later
Like Al, Jay Wright impresses me as a curious, self aware guy. I hope, like Al, he’s ready for the next chapter life will bring. But even if he’s just taking a break to recharge the batteries I wish him nothing but the best.
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“I had my moment on the stage. The trick in life is to know when to leave.”
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Well Woj shoulda bin on da stage crew, aina?
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Nope. He's done it for 35 years and he's probably tired of the year round grind. He's accomplished more than just about any coach in college history and with nary a peep about anything outside the lines at any point of his Hall of Fame career. In my opinion, the best coach in today's game just retired.
Well stated - Wright is first class all the way and will be greatly missed in the Big East.
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“I had my moment on the stage. The trick in life is to know when to leave.”
Correction Coach Wright
The trick of life is getting on that stage and reaching the top.
The icing on the cake is knowing when to leave
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Shocking, indeed. But congrats to Jay, who, even if you didn't think he is the best coach in the game today (you'd be wrong) is unquestionably the most respected.
From a selfish perspective, though, I'm kind of jacked that the Big East just went up for grabs.
If I were Shaka, I'd channel some Herb Brooks: "They just pulled the best goalie in the world, boys."
BTW, nice tribute from another Jay: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33775560/jay-wright-created-best-culture-basketball-game-needs-him (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33775560/jay-wright-created-best-culture-basketball-game-needs-him)
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This is turible. Just turible.
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Correction Coach Wright
The trick of life is getting on that stage and reaching the top.
The icing on the cake is knowing when to leave
That's just what he said! smh....lol
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Now this is a disaster for college hoops and I think NIL may be the culprit. I've heard rumors that Wright was the most outspoken coach against NIL in the Big East. May not be interested in playing that game
Could not agree more. Also, while this has most likely been in the works for awhile, it’s a bit ironic that the decision comes after Nova was eliminated by a special-kind-of-corrupt coach and program. It’s almost like Jay is sticking it to the NCAA for their delayed action/inaction re the schools involved in the FBI probe.
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Shaka with a lifetime career winning percentage of 1.000 against Jay Wright. Hang a banner.
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Could not agree more. Also, while this has most likely been in the works for awhile, it’s a bit ironic that the decision comes after Nova was eliminated by a special-kind-of-corrupt coach and program. It’s almost like Jay is sticking it to the NCAA for their delayed action/inaction re the schools involved in the FBI probe.
Self is corrupt as it gets while the NCAA continues to look the other way. And kudos to Wright for doing this quietly after the season vs another high profile coach who made his retirement all about him and his ego.
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With 20/20 hindsight, most of us here who are old enough to remember Al say, "How cool that he retired on top, in his late-40s, on his own terms, with decades ahead of him for a second act that didn't involve coaching again."
I'm betting Jay Wright is today's version of this. He's rich, he's been coaching for a bazillion years, he's ready for the next chapter ... and it doesn't include coaching some desperate NBA team 3 years from now.
I'll miss having such a classy, talented coach in the Big East.
And no, TAMU ... you and I agree on a LOT ... but this isn't a disaster for college basketball, the Big East or anything else. Guys retire all the time.
60 is the new 47
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It seems to me that a large part of the respect and success of the ‘new’ Big East is due to the consistent success of Villanova. I can only view this as bad for the conference.
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It seems to me that a large part of the respect and success of the ‘new’ Big East is due to the consistent success of Villanova. I can only view this as bad for the conference.
I agree with this but Jay was going to inevitably retire. The conference couldnt be in a better position for that day (Smart, Matta, Miller in the fold - UConn back - solid programs in Creighton and Providence).
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60 is the new 47
All the dinos in here sure do hope so
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It seems to me that a large part of the respect and success of the ‘new’ Big East is due to the consistent success of Villanova. I can only view this as bad for the conference.
This, along with enjoying watching his teams play, is why I personally would like him to stick around a while longer. He's a great ambassador for the conference and has given real juice to the Big East with championships and Final Fours.
That said, if I had his money I would retire and never look back.
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All the dinos in here sure do hope so
You got that right. I am actually quite surprised that he retired, seemed to be enjoying himself and is at the top of his game. Tough to find fault with anything about the guy. Ambassador for the school, coached his players up, and won at the highest level, and hardly a trace of cheating. I guess my wife and sisters will have to find a new coach to swoon over.
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Here's a coach who brags 'bout da size of his Johnson, hey?
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Bad for the conference? Maybe. But it’s an opportunity for a new alpha to emerge
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Jay Wright hardly ever got it wrong. Wish him well.
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The Big East should put Jay Wright’s name in front of its COY award or find some other way to honor him. He saved the conference’s bacon in the first few years after Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, and others bolted and Marquette and Georgetown, who were supposed to step up as premiere teams, crapped the bed.
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The Big East should put Jay Wright’s name in front of its COY award or find some other way to honor him. He saved the conference’s bacon in the first few years after Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, and others bolted and Marquette and Georgetown, who were supposed to step up as premiere teams, crapped the bed.
I think it's weird enough to put active coaches in the HoF but naming an award after a living person?
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Here's a coach who brags 'bout da size of his Johnson, hey?
Post of The Year
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Could not agree more. Also, while this has most likely been in the works for awhile, it’s a bit ironic that the decision comes after Nova was eliminated by a special-kind-of-corrupt coach and program. It’s almost like Jay is sticking it to the NCAA for their delayed action/inaction re the schools involved in the FBI probe.
Jay Wright retiring is "sticking it to the NCAA?"
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Jay Wright retiring is "sticking it to the NCAA?"
It seems like a lot of people want this to be some sort of statement by Jay. Until I hear something compelling otherwise, I'm going to assume that Jay's statement in retiring is, "I feel like now is a good time to retire."
He was one of the greats. I hope he enjoys whatever comes next.
BTW, nice tribute from another Jay (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33775560/jay-wright-created-best-culture-basketball-game-needs-him)
That was an outstanding tribute.
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Could not agree more. Also, while this has most likely been in the works for awhile, it’s a bit ironic that the decision comes after Nova was eliminated by a special-kind-of-corrupt coach and program. It’s almost like Jay is sticking it to the NCAA for their delayed action/inaction re the schools involved in the FBI probe.
"sticking it to the NCAA"???
I doubt the NCAA gives a chit about Jay Wright or about his retirement.
The NCAA does what it does, with or without Jay Wright's approval.
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It seems like a lot of people want this to be some sort of statement by Jay. Until I hear something compelling otherwise, I'm going to assume that Jay's statement in retiring is, "I feel like now is a good time to retire."
He was one of the greats. I hope he enjoys whatever comes next.
He may very well be unhappy where college sports is heading. But him retiring, just like Roy Williams retiring last year, isn't changing anything.
If people have a problem with the current landscape, they should look very closely at the NCAA and its member schools. They dragged their feet for YEARS on this issue. Despite public opinion not being behind them. Despite the Ed O'Bannon lawsuit. Despite numerous state governments passing NIL laws. (Remember when Chicos said that the NCAA should just exclude California schools from its championships???) Their answer was to defend their model at all costs instead of reading the tea-leaves and finding a way to build a sensible, more controllable model.
And they failed. The Emmert tenure has been an absolute DISASTER for the NCAA. It seems like they have made every wrong decision when a key decision needed to be made. Yet here we are.
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He may very well be unhappy where college sports is heading.
Yes. He may be. Counterpoint: he may not be. Personally, I have no idea.
I know TAMU says he's heard rumors, and perhaps those rumors are true. Until I hear something more, I'll choose to credit Jay's public statements.
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It has been said before but I'll add my voice: Jay Wright is the dictionary definition of class.
He did his job extremely well.
He brought recognition and attention to Villanova -- in a great way.
He respected his peers, his players and those around the game.
His players graduated and he never cheated. He didn't have to!
He won with class and he lost with grace.
I found myself quietly rooting for 'Nova when Marquette was eliminated from the tournament. And when we defeated 'Nova, you know our guys had to work their backsides off, which made the win more satisfying.
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It has been said before but I'll add my voice: Jay Wright is the dictionary definition of class.
He did his job extremely well.
He brought recognition and attention to Villanova -- in a great way.
He respected his peers, his players and those around the game.
His players graduated and he never cheated. He didn't have to!*
He won with class and he lost with grace.
I found myself quietly rooting for 'Nova when Marquette was eliminated from the tournament. And when we defeated 'Nova, you know our guys had to work their backsides off, which made the win more satisfying.
*that we know of
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And they failed. The Emmert tenure has been an absolute DISASTER for the NCAA. It seems like they have made every wrong decision when a key decision needed to be made. Yet here we are.
Finally ... the correct usage of "disaster"! The NCAA had numerous chances to get in front of this, get some control, make some rules. But they fought it at every turn because they wanted to keep 100% of the money and power going to the already rich and powerful. And now here we are.
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Finally ... the correct usage of "disaster"! The NCAA had numerous chances to get in front of this, get some control, make some rules. But they fought it at every turn because they wanted to keep 100% of the money and power going to the already rich and powerful. And now here we are.
What sort of rules do you think the NCAA would need to make?
Here's a pretty good recap of where NIL is at the moment
https://www.ropesgray.com/en/newsroom/alerts/2022/March/NCAA-NIL-Update-With-a-Semester-of-NIL-Opportunities-in-the-Books-Trends-Emerge-and-Confusion-Reigns
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To clarify my earlier point, I don't think Jay Wright is against NIL and I don't think he's making a statement. But I do think that he was not personally interested in playing the NIL game and it accelerated his retirement. Looking at my original post, I phrased it poorly and see how it came off. Management regrets the error.
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To clarify my earlier point, I don't think Jay Wright is against NIL and I don't think he's making a statement. But I do think that he was not personally interested in playing the NIL game and it accelerated his retirement. Looking at my original post, I phrased it poorly and see how it came off. Management regrets the error.
(https://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/2021/02/04/monty-python-quotes-inline-1.jpg)
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What sort of rules do you think the NCAA would need to make?
Horse is out of the barn. They had their chance and they blew it.
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Horse is out of the barn. They had their chance and they blew it.
I would argue that no matter what "rule" they tried to make, it would have been challenged. Leave it up to state or federal government to enact the law.
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Shaka with a lifetime career winning percentage of 1.000 against Jay Wright. Hang a banner.
My thoughts exactly! Jay realized he couldn't beat Shaka!
In all seriousness, Jay is a class act on all levels. Gracious in victory and respectful in defeat. I always found myself pulling for Villanova as a representative of the Big East in the NCAA tournament in spite of the fact that my wife is a North Carolina alum.
It's a loss for the game of college basketball and the Big East, but it means that Shaka has an opportunity to stamp his program atop the Big East. He overachieved my expectations in year 1 with 10 new players. The future looks bright without having to face Jay Wright! :)
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I would argue that no matter what "rule" they tried to make, it would have been challenged. Leave it up to state or federal government to enact the law.
more govt? Ah…noooooo!
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more govt? Ah…noooooo!
The NCAA makes the federal government look accurate and efficient.
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There is a picture and video on the internet of Jay Wright and his golden retreiver enjoying "Bark at the Park" night at Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia for a Phillies game. I don't have the technical skills to post it here, but it's a cool picture/video if you're interested.
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Shaka with a lifetime career winning percentage of 1.000 against Jay Wright. Hang a banner.
At Marquette.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=401259857
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There is a picture and video on the internet of Jay Wright and his golden retreiver enjoying "Bark at the Park" night at Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia for a Phillies game. I don't have the technical skills to post it here, but it's a cool picture/video if you're interested.
https://twitter.com/phillies/status/1000380568864018432
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10155908668191773
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Thanks Brew 83. Appreciate it.
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Nice article in the NY Post.
https://nypost.com/2022/04/22/villanovas-jay-wright-reveals-why-he-retired/