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Title: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 30, 2022, 06:38:59 AM
https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/headline-17036974.php (https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/headline-17036974.php)

Allegedly, former MU Assistant (now Albany HC) Killings struck Luke Fizulich, an MU transfer.  He is under investigation. Doesn't look good.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Merit Matters on March 30, 2022, 07:44:36 AM
Everything and everyone associated with Wojo sucks. No shock here.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 30, 2022, 07:47:11 AM
Everything and everyone associated with Wojo sucks. No shock here.

Be less obsessed.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 30, 2022, 08:10:38 AM
Everything and everyone associated with Wojo sucks. No shock here.

Black Lives Matter
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 30, 2022, 09:34:45 AM
https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/headline-17036974.php (https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/headline-17036974.php)

Allegedly, former MU Assistant (now Albany HC) Killings struck Luke Fizulich, an MU transfer.  He is under investigation. Doesn't look good.

How could someone be so dumb?

In your first year on a dream career path.  If found to be true he'll probably never get another opportunity.

Just senseless.  I guess we will wait and see.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Dickthedribbler on March 30, 2022, 12:42:40 PM
The implication in the article is that the "investigation" is in it's early stages. How the hell important could this be in the first place if it takes 4+ months to move on it??
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Mu8891 on March 30, 2022, 12:57:03 PM
I got to know Killings a bit while he was in MILW.  Really good guy, and pretty mild mannered. 

I hope it’s not true.  And, it’s very odd to be starting an investigation of something that allegedly happened 4 months ago..
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 30, 2022, 01:06:01 PM
BTW, A+ for thread title.  Assumed Dahmer v2.0 was on campus.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Skip Intro on March 30, 2022, 01:06:57 PM
The implication in the article is that the "investigation" is in it's early stages. How the hell important could this be in the first place if it takes 4+ months to move on it??

The timing/delay is odd.  You wonder if Fizulich only brought it up to the admin when he announced he was transferring?  Or, it could be a case of the admin knowing about it for 4 months, but only now launching an investigation because they're looking to move on from Killings, for free, after a sub-par season. 

Also odd that it was Fizulich.  Clearly he had a pretty good relationship with Killings, enough so that he was willing to walk on at two schools just to be around him. 
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: HouWarrior on March 30, 2022, 01:08:48 PM
Given the topic heading ...

I am simply relieved this was not about some multiple murder investigation

PS
sorry rocky we were typing the same thoughts at the same time
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 30, 2022, 01:30:19 PM
The implication in the article is that the "investigation" is in it's early stages. How the hell important could this be in the first place if it takes 4+ months to move on it??

It's not uncommon for students to sit on things like this for awhile. Assuming the allegation is true (not saying it is, just giving an explanation for why there may be a delay if its true), my guess would be that Fizluch didn't feel comfortable accusing his coach and feared that it would result in retaliation. Now that he's transferring, Killings can't retaliate (or at least not as easily) so Fizluch feels safe coming forward.

That being said, depending on the facts of the case and the specific allegation, university investigations can easily go 4+ months. Hell, I've worked on investigations that took 2+ years
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 30, 2022, 01:38:57 PM
That being said, depending on the facts of the case and the specific allegation, university investigations can easily go 4+ months. Hell, I've worked on investigations that took 2+ years

Add that "Killings claims it was accidental" - and unless a couple other teammates witnessed that there was intent and decide to speak out, it could take a while.  None of the athletes have spoken publicly about it so far.  So, who knows...
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 30, 2022, 02:04:29 PM
Yeah and I don't think they are simply trying to get out from under his contract.  He had a mediocre season no doubt, but unless something else has happened, it wasn't a dumpster fire.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: MU82 on March 30, 2022, 06:04:00 PM
And here we thought Marquette was the only campus where Killings and assaults took place!
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Herman Cain on March 30, 2022, 07:07:16 PM
Back in the Day at MU Players and Coaches Fought each other.....

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/sports/2015/08/13/day-player-punched-al-mcguire/31644255/
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: NCMUFan on March 30, 2022, 08:41:33 PM
Yawn
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Merit Matters on March 31, 2022, 04:39:53 AM
Black Lives Matter
*Except to killings
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2022, 05:06:08 AM
*Except to killings

Black Lives Matter
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 31, 2022, 09:41:44 AM
BTW, A+ for thread title.  Assumed Dahmer v2.0 was on campus.

Eek.  I could have titled it better...
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: MU82 on March 31, 2022, 10:58:54 AM
BTW, A+ for thread title.  Assumed Dahmer v2.0 was on campus.

Doc Dribble woulda started that thread.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: GB Warrior on March 31, 2022, 06:03:58 PM
Maybe Killings mistook him for a whiteboard
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Don_Kojis on April 02, 2022, 12:04:02 PM
All lives matter
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: jfp61 on April 02, 2022, 01:57:26 PM
Luke's head matters
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 02, 2022, 02:36:30 PM
Killings has been reinstated.  Smart for the school to investigate and glad it was apparently a mistake and isolated.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 02, 2022, 03:48:42 PM
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capital-region/sports/2022/04/02/dwayne-killings-to-remain-ualbany-men-s-basketball-coach-after-investigation
Quote
The University at Albany says it has concluded its investigation after the school received a complaint against head men’s basketball coach Dwayne Killings.

A UAlbany investigation concluded there was “inappropriate physical contact between Coach Killings and a student-athlete during a pre-game hype circle immediately prior to a road game on November 24, 2021, and that the incident was never reported to administration,” according to a statement released by the school on Saturday.

UAlbany says that the incident was isolated, and that Killings has acknowledged it, apologized and expressed regret.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2022, 04:12:48 PM
So, the pre-game slaps of five got a little out of hand?
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Newsdreams on April 02, 2022, 04:17:54 PM
So, the pre-game slaps of five got a little out of hand?
Vander Orange like
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Newsdreams on April 02, 2022, 04:20:13 PM
Weird no forever comment
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: JWags85 on April 02, 2022, 05:49:48 PM
Killings has been reinstated.  Smart for the school to investigate and glad it was apparently a mistake and isolated.

Knowing that it was a pregame hype circle and not a practice adds a little more color for sure.  Kudos to Albany for the process.  Everyone can learn and move on.

Ts and Ps for that radio host who was all so certain
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 02, 2022, 05:56:08 PM
Knowing that it was a pregame hype circle and not a practice adds a little more color for sure.  Kudos to Albany for the process.  Everyone can learn and move on.

Ts and Ps for that radio host who was all so certain

Which radio host?
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Mu8891 on April 02, 2022, 07:48:10 PM
“ inappropriate contact “ … in the
Pre game hype circle??  Huh ?

Based on that it was obviously not a punch/ hit … so ?

Glad it’s resolved.  I’ve met DK multiple times.  He’s pretty mild mannered.  I hope he turns their program around
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: MU82 on April 02, 2022, 10:59:35 PM
I'm glad for DK that this was resolved in this way, and I wish him great success going forward.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2022, 12:44:15 AM
I've always wondered what would happen if a player reported a coach for smacking them on the a$$ to Title IX. By the letter of the law, if the coach didn't have the player's consent, that's sexual assault. Maybe we just found out.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2022, 12:56:41 AM
I've always wondered what would happen if a player reported a coach for smacking them on the a$$ to Title IX. By the letter of the law, if the coach didn't have the player's consent, that's sexual assault. Maybe we just found out.

You've mentioned this at least once before (the good old athlete ass slap). I have a feeling the circumstances don't line up 100% (or even 80%), but nonetheless, I think coaches are understanding that you have to appreciate the situation. Unless of course, you're a hall of fame coach, or better at covering your tracks than killings was.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2022, 12:58:33 AM
You've mentioned this at least once before (the good old athlete ass slap). I have a feeling the circumstances don't line up 100% (or even 80%), but nonetheless, I think coaches are understanding that you have to appreciate the situation. Unless of course, your a hall of fame coach, or better at covering your tracks than killings was.

The other time wasn't the athlete ass slap. It was reporting Davison for groping Joey Hauser.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2022, 01:42:53 AM
The other time wasn't the athlete ass slap. It was reporting Davison for groping Joey Hauser.

Sure there's this one:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=62915.msg1414038#msg1414038

But I swear you theorized / fantasized about the the ass slap one time  8-)

I'm probably wrong.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2022, 01:47:40 AM
Sure there's this one:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=62915.msg1414038#msg1414038

But I swear you theorized / fantasized about the the ass slap one time  8-)

I'm probably wrong.

It's certainly possible though the one you quoted is the only one I remember.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2022, 01:53:51 AM
It's certainly possible though the one you quoted is the only one I remember.

Just to be fair, this is one of the top MUScoop results for "ass slap". And oldy but, oddity
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=23042
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: MU82 on April 03, 2022, 08:28:38 AM
Ass slap fever (duh duh duh) ... ass slap fever (duh duh duh)
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: 94Warrior on April 03, 2022, 10:28:41 AM
“ inappropriate contact “ … in the
Pre game hype circle??  Huh ?

Based on that it was obviously not a punch/ hit … so ?

Glad it’s resolved.  I’ve met DK multiple times.  He’s pretty mild mannered.  I hope he turns their program around
I’m confused, too.  WTH went on.  I can’t imagine a 25k fine, suspension and public apology for an ass slap.  Weird.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 03, 2022, 06:23:44 PM
I’m confused, too.  WTH went on.  I can’t imagine a 25k fine, suspension and public apology for an ass slap.  Weird.

*baseless speculation* - He probably gave Luke a hyped up chest punch - and it wasn't received in the way it was intended.
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: jfp61 on April 03, 2022, 07:10:26 PM
*baseless speculation* - He probably gave Luke a hyped up chest punch - and it wasn't received in the way it was intended.

As it it was enough to make Luke transfer, and have Albany suspend their coach for 5 games and fine him
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 03, 2022, 07:22:54 PM
*baseless speculation* - He probably gave Luke a hyped up chest punch - and it wasn't received in the way it was intended.

I think he showed him how Brad Davison fights through a screen. #baseless_speculation
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: lawdog77 on April 04, 2022, 09:48:26 AM
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capital-region/sports/2022/04/02/dwayne-killings-to-remain-ualbany-men-s-basketball-coach-after-investigation
Ban hype circles. Make them parallelograms and call them a rumpus rhombus
Title: Re: Killings Under Investigation
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 06, 2022, 08:25:58 PM
How could someone be so dumb?

In your first year on a dream career path.  If found to be true he'll probably never get another opportunity.

Just senseless.  I guess we will wait and see.

You apparently have never seen Hoosiers.