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Title: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 24, 2022, 04:10:45 PM
Profile of each player and an unfortunate MU mention in the article. Cannot help but root for the under dog, unless its against MU, eh? They are playing in Philly so I am sure there will be a huge "home crowd" for the game tomorrow against Purdue.

https://usatodayhss.com/lists/star-destroyers-st-peters-cinderella-story-continues-with-players-who-were-low-ranked-prospects
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 24, 2022, 04:21:47 PM
All the other fans in attendance will be rooting for them, but IMO Purdue's size is going to be tough for them to deal with. 
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: jesmu84 on March 24, 2022, 05:02:42 PM
Superbar
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 24, 2022, 05:07:29 PM
0% chance
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2022, 05:09:29 PM
The son of Bo Eillis plays for St. Peter’s
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Goose on March 24, 2022, 05:11:02 PM
Rico

I have to admit you get a smile out of me from time to time. Not saying you're one of my favorite posters, but you are quicker than most.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 24, 2022, 05:14:14 PM
Rico

I have to admit you get a smile out of me from time to time. Not saying you're one of my favorite posters, but you are quicker than most.

I think that's a Scoop compliment... :-\
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Jockey on March 24, 2022, 05:19:59 PM
The son of Bo Eillis plays for St. Peter’s

Any other poster, I would have corrected.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Goose on March 24, 2022, 05:28:31 PM
Dr. B

Rico is a perfect example of how life is supposed to be, I seldom agree with his non basketball stuff, but Rico is high on the clever meter in my book. Rico and I might not have much in common, yet I think we share a similar sense of humor.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 24, 2022, 05:58:30 PM
Superbar

Only if the MODS swap the Women basketball thread for this one and while their at it the US News College rankings thread. Both have nothing to do with all things MU basketball. Though this thread had a MU mention in the article.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: jesmu84 on March 24, 2022, 06:44:32 PM
Only if the MODS swap the Women basketball thread for this one and while their at it the US News College rankings thread. Both have nothing to do with all things MU basketball. Though this thread had a MU mention in the article.
MU women's basketball
MU usnwr rankings

St Peter's basketball

One of these is not like the other
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: sailwi on March 24, 2022, 06:54:32 PM
Superbar
Really, its the off season for MU.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: dgies9156 on March 24, 2022, 08:10:05 PM
No
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 24, 2022, 09:18:21 PM
Not a chance
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: LAZER on March 24, 2022, 11:29:07 PM
How much y’all putting on Purdue -1000?
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: BM1090 on March 25, 2022, 12:07:27 AM
How much y’all putting on Purdue -1000?

I have quite a bit on -12.5 and don’t feel great about it.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 25, 2022, 06:36:23 AM
Dr. B

Rico is a perfect example of how life is supposed to be, I seldom agree with his non basketball stuff, but Rico is high on the clever meter in my book. Rico and I might not have much in common, yet I think we share a similar sense of humor.

I also agree that humor is funny.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 25, 2022, 08:24:00 PM
0% chance

Haha who is this idiot.

Lets goooooooooooo
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 25, 2022, 08:24:43 PM
Yes!!!!!
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Johnny B on March 25, 2022, 08:26:43 PM
how does such a small slow and scrwny team beat elete teams like UK and purdue. how do they beat the elete talent size and speed it just defies logic. might be the craziest run ive ever seen.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: oldwarrior81 on March 25, 2022, 08:37:50 PM
I like the reference to Lee's father as Alfred.

Around these parts he was known as Butch.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: nyg on March 25, 2022, 08:40:04 PM
Making all those free throws even with their best guy missing a front end was the dagger.

Limited turnovers and smart offensive sets. Ivey with nine points, three of which on last bomb shot and six turnovers.

Purdue going with Williams as opposed to Edey was strange.

Fantastic story, but gonna end. UCLA or UNC will smoke them next game.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 25, 2022, 08:45:52 PM
Making all those free throws even with their best guy missing a front end was the dagger.

Limited turnovers and smart offensive sets. Ivey with nine points, three of which on last bomb shot and six turnovers.

Purdue going with Williams as opposed to Edey was strange.

Fantastic story, but gonna end. UCLA or UNC will smoke them next game.

Edey was missing a ton of bunnies early in the second half. Williams went on a personal 8-0 run to give Purdue the lead back
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Jables1604 on March 25, 2022, 08:47:51 PM
My dad grew up during the Depression. He was a very proud graduate of St. Peter’s College. Went there at night on the GI Bill after getting out of the Navy at the very end of WW2.

His family never would have been able to afford college.

April 18 will be the fourth anniversary of his passing. He died just short of his 91st birthday. I know for sure he is dancing and having a cold one in heaven right now.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 25, 2022, 08:48:02 PM
Edey was missing a ton of bunnies early in the second half. Williams went on a personal 8-0 run to give Purdue the lead back

Edey only missed 2 shots.

He did have 5 Tos though and balls kept going through hands.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: dgies9156 on March 25, 2022, 08:49:17 PM
No

Shows how much I know.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 25, 2022, 08:53:59 PM
Making all those free throws even with their best guy missing a front end was the dagger.

Limited turnovers and smart offensive sets. Ivey with nine points, three of which on last bomb shot and six turnovers.

Purdue going with Williams as opposed to Edey was strange.

Fantastic story, but gonna end. UCLA or UNC will smoke them next game.

Hmm...everyone was been saying that the last 3 games.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 25, 2022, 08:56:31 PM
I know this is absolutely ridiculous, but imagine a path to the championship that includes:

Kentucky
UNC/UCLA
Duke
Kansas


A guy can dream…
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 25, 2022, 08:57:16 PM
My dad grew up during the Depression. He was a very proud graduate of St. Peter’s College. Went there at night on the GI Bill after getting out of the Navy at the very end of WW2.

His family never would have been able to afford college.

April 18 will be the fourth anniversary of his passing. He died just short of his 91st birthday. I know for sure he is dancing and having a cold one in heaven right now.

Great story
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: nyg on March 25, 2022, 09:00:41 PM
Hmm...everyone was been saying that the last 3 games.

Hmm…..That’s my belief for the next game. 
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Herman Cain on March 25, 2022, 09:42:08 PM
how does such a small slow and scrwny team beat elete teams like UK and purdue. how do they beat the elete talent size and speed it just defies logic. might be the craziest run ive ever seen.
Heart cannot be measured
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: LAZER on March 25, 2022, 09:48:44 PM
Hmm…..That’s my belief for the next game.
Who do you think St Peter’s matches up better against? Pretty different teams
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: JWags85 on March 25, 2022, 10:01:38 PM
Who do you think St Peter’s matches up better against? Pretty different teams

UCLA, only cause UNC can run/blow you off the court, IMO
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 25, 2022, 10:06:04 PM
Who do you think St Peter’s matches up better against? Pretty different teams

Ehhh, I think probably NC. They’ve proven they can deal with big men.

I think Campbell, Juzang, and Jaquez would be a major issue for St. Peter’s
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 25, 2022, 10:45:37 PM
I know this is absolutely ridiculous, but imagine a path to the championship that includes:

Kentucky
UNC/UCLA
Duke
Kansas


A guy can dream…
Ummm? What about the all time great Murry State? They beat the Racers too.

Can't forget how a waaay under-seeded Murry State humiliated us a few years ago on their way to the Championship, I mean the Championship Game, oops, Final Four, wait no the Elite Eight, uhg, the Sweet Sixteen, oh wait now I remember, the Second Round.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: MU82 on March 26, 2022, 12:03:44 AM
Shaheen Holloway didn't foul up 3.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 12:29:00 AM
My dad grew up during the Depression. He was a very proud graduate of St. Peter’s College. Went there at night on the GI Bill after getting out of the Navy at the very end of WW2.

His family never would have been able to afford college.

April 18 will be the fourth anniversary of his passing. He died just short of his 91st birthday. I know for sure he is dancing and having a cold one in heaven right now.

Awesome Jables!!  I'm sorry for your loss but what a fabulous story. 
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: PointWarrior on March 26, 2022, 01:44:34 AM
Murray State fans thought they won the championship


 8-)
Ummm? What about the all time great Murry State? They beat the Racers too.

Can't forget how a waaay under-seeded Murry State humiliated us a few years ago on their way to the Championship, I mean the Championship Game, oops, Final Four, wait no the Elite Eight, uhg, the Sweet Sixteen, oh wait now I remember, the Second Round.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Goose on March 26, 2022, 03:43:15 AM
Jables

Thank you for sharing that story. I hope your Dad is having more than one cold one up there while he is enjoy this unbelievable run. Your post gave me an extra reason to cheer for St. Peter’s. Again, I love your post.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 26, 2022, 08:05:17 AM
Shaheen Holloway didn't foul up 3.

That was unbelievably risky.  Ivey had a wide open three at the top of the key about 30 seconds after he’d just seen one go in.  It was the exact shot Purdue wanted and Holloway is damn lucky it didn’t go in.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 26, 2022, 09:23:47 AM
Heart cannot be measured

Add smart, disciplined play and I agree. I noticed they are especially good at being in exactly the right place at the right time, whether for rebounds, helping on defense, spacing etc. But yes, heart is a very big part of it and cannot be measured. One more thing- they are fearless.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 26, 2022, 09:48:01 AM
Add smart, disciplined play and I agree. I noticed they are especially good at being in exactly the right place at the right time, whether for rebounds, helping on defense, spacing etc. But yes, heart is a very big part of it and cannot be measured. One more thing- they are fearless.

V I O L E N C E
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 26, 2022, 09:51:27 AM
Coach K: Saint Peter's run worth up to $100 million".

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/coach-k-saint-peters-cinderella-run-will-translate-to-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-for-the-n-j-school/amp/
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 09:52:38 AM
The Peacocks are well disciplined both offensively and defensively.  They also have drained free throws at like a 90% clip.  And they're getting to the line because they know how to attack off the bounce and use the shot fake  and draw contact like Nova.

Carolina is going to be a huge challenge primarily because Justin Love in particular has elevated his game.   He's scoring pretty much on his own and has been the most explosive player in the tournament.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: wadesworld on March 26, 2022, 09:55:02 AM
The Peacocks are well disciplined both offensively and defensively.  They also have drained free throws at like a 90% clip.  And there getting to the line because they know how to attack off the bounce and use the shot fake  and draw contact like Nova.

Carolina is going to be a huge challenge primarily because Justin Love in particular has elevated his game.   He's scoring pretty much on his own and has been the most explosive player in the tournament.

Caleb Love has been better.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 09:58:03 AM
Caleb Love has been better.

Oh...did I get the name wrong?  My bad.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: CTWarrior on March 26, 2022, 10:19:41 AM
how does such a small slow and scrwny team beat elete teams like UK and purdue. how do they beat the elete talent size and speed it just defies logic. might be the craziest run ive ever seen.
It does defy logic, but they are not slow, particularly their guards.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: tower912 on March 26, 2022, 10:30:15 AM
https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2022/03/25/saint-peters-sweet-sixteen-242686
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 26, 2022, 10:31:37 AM
Coach K: Saint Peter's run worth up to $100 million".

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/coach-k-saint-peters-cinderella-run-will-translate-to-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-for-the-n-j-school/amp/

Lol. No. Every mid major thinks that, but it doesn’t really happen.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: cheebs09 on March 26, 2022, 10:42:58 AM
That was unbelievably risky.  Ivey had a wide open three at the top of the key about 30 seconds after he’d just seen one go in.  It was the exact shot Purdue wanted and Holloway is damn lucky it didn’t go in.

Yea. Him dribbling up gave them a pretty good opportunity to foul. The only thing I could think is Edey has a good shot to get the rebound. Although, I think I’d take my chances with a rushed shot by Edey over a reasonable look from Ivey.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 26, 2022, 10:45:44 AM
Lol. No. Every mid major thinks that, but it doesn’t really happen.

Coach K, Gonzaga, Butler and LUC disagree over the long run. But, is St. Peter's even a mid-major?

https://es.pn/2If1HZs
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 26, 2022, 11:55:08 AM
https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2022/03/25/saint-peters-sweet-sixteen-242686

I don't believe a word of that article. Everyone knows Catholics are just a bunch of podophiles. Just a hateful group of people.


Seriously, that was a great piece. St. Peter's is easy to root for. Go Peacocks!
 
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: JWags85 on March 26, 2022, 12:16:16 PM
Coach K, Gonzaga, Butler and LUC disagree over the long run. But, is St. Peter's even a mid-major?

https://es.pn/2If1HZs

Other than Iona, no other MAAC school was in the top 150 of the NET rankings.  I'd argue that is pretty decidedly low major.  The conference comps are the Ivy League and the Big West
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 26, 2022, 12:17:00 PM
I don't believe a word of that article. Everyone knows Catholics are just a bunch of podophiles. Just a hateful group of people.


Seriously, that was a great piece. St. Peter's is easy to root for. Go Peacocks!

Sex with a bunch of whales? This is a new perversion.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: GB Warrior on March 26, 2022, 12:18:22 PM
Sex with a bunch of whales? This is a new perversion.

Don't bring Ginni Thomas into this
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 26, 2022, 12:19:23 PM
"Sex with a bunch of whales? This is a new perversion."

 :D LOL!!! I almost spit my coffee out my nose I laughed so hard.

I'm not going to edit it because of your post.  Well played Sir.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: MU82 on March 26, 2022, 12:21:58 PM
That was unbelievably risky.  Ivey had a wide open three at the top of the key about 30 seconds after he’d just seen one go in.  It was the exact shot Purdue wanted and Holloway is damn lucky it didn’t go in.

Yep, I would have had two men in the backcourt to immediately foul Ivey or whoever got the ball.

But it wasn't an "easy" shot. Ivey was on full sprint, faced time pressure and basically just had to launch. Given all that, and Ivey being a 36% 3-point shooter, Purdue would have been more "lucky" had the shot gone in than St. Peter's was that it didn't. And, as cheebs said, not fouling made it so Edey and Williams wouldn't be contesting for a FT rebound; not surprisingly, Purdue had dominated the boards.

So although I'd have fouled, I certainly can see why Holloway didn't.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 26, 2022, 12:22:13 PM
Now we know what the Bible story about Jonah staying inside the whale for three days was all about.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 26, 2022, 12:29:25 PM
I hope St. Peter's keeps winning so that Holloway gets a better offer than Seton Hall. If he can take a small school to the level he has, it scares me what SHU might soon be with him as their coach,

I'm admittedly talking out of both sides of my mouth as I have often supported the concept that the stronger the BE is top to bottom, the better for us (although others have rightfully explained the cannibal effect as seen in the Big 12).

Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2022, 12:40:14 PM
Don't bring Ginni Thomas into this

I tip my hat to you, good sir.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 26, 2022, 12:40:17 PM
Coach K, Gonzaga, Butler and LUC disagree over the long run. But, is St. Peter's even a mid-major?

https://es.pn/2If1HZs


Coach K is wrong, and Gonzaga, Butler and LUC aren't comparable to St. Peter's.  Those three schools have had sustained success.  K claimed that "this run" is worth perhaps $100 million.  And that's just not accurate.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Jay Bee on March 26, 2022, 01:11:26 PM
Saint Peter’s.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 26, 2022, 01:25:39 PM

Coach K is wrong, and Gonzaga, Butler and LUC aren't comparable to St. Peter's.  Those three schools have had sustained success.  K claimed that "this run" is worth perhaps $100 million.  And that's just not accurate.
In Coach K defense, he's just a college basketball coach. He has spent the batter part of his life thinking about teenage boys playing basketball. He's not a university administrator and far from a college president. I don't think anyone should expect him to understand the impact of a big run the the NCAA. Plus he has a bias for promoting sports and basketball.

Outside of high school recruiting and how to defend the pick and roll, his opinions don't mean much. He is 100% entitled to his opinions just as you are, but that doesn't carry much weight.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 26, 2022, 01:36:08 PM
In Coach K defense, he's just a college basketball coach. He has spent the batter part of his life thinking about teenage boys playing basketball. He's not a university administrator and far from a college president. I don't think anyone should expect him to understand the impact of a big run the the NCAA. Plus he has a bias for promoting sports and basketball.

Outside of high school recruiting and how to defend the pick and roll, his opinions don't mean much. He is 100% entitled to his opinions just as you are, but that doesn't carry much weight.


I don't disagree at all.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Jockey on March 26, 2022, 03:20:54 PM
how does such a small slow and scrwny team beat elete teams like UK and purdue. how do they beat the elete talent size and speed it just defies logic. might be the craziest run ive ever seen.

They are all tough city kids off the playgrounds.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Jockey on March 26, 2022, 03:23:49 PM
Sex with a bunch of whales? This is a new perversion.

Whales can't talk - even when they grow up.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 26, 2022, 03:25:05 PM
Whales can't talk - even when they grow up.

Oh, so since they never say "no" it makes it ok?  Sicko!
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 26, 2022, 04:06:37 PM
I hope St. Peter's keeps winning so that Holloway gets a better offer than Seton Hall. If he can take a small school to the level he has, it scares me what SHU might soon be with him as their coach,

I'm admittedly talking out of both sides of my mouth as I have often supported the concept that the stronger the BE is top to bottom, the better for us (although others have rightfully explained the cannibal effect as seen in the Big 12).

So Holloway would be more scary at Seton Hall than Shaka at MU?
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 04:51:39 PM
Sex with a bunch of whales? This is a new perversion.

Well done S-Scoop.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 26, 2022, 04:51:59 PM
So Holloway would be more scary at Seton Hall than Shaka at MU?

Here's my exchange with Goose on the Next Viilanova thread:

Goose: I like the St. Peter’s coach and hope he makes a big haul after this season. That said, I think there will be a very sorry buyer for his services in a few years. I hope I am wrong, but not much of resume prior to the last few weeks.

Me: If he goes to SH, I sure hope you are right Goose. I'm fine with a good, solid SH team- provided that we beat them on a fairly regular basis- but a BE version of what he has done at St. Peter's? No thank you. With Nova and UCONN, we have enough to deal with.

Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: JWags85 on March 26, 2022, 05:50:10 PM
Here's my exchange with Goose on the Next Viilanova thread:

Goose: I like the St. Peter’s coach and hope he makes a big haul after this season. That said, I think there will be a very sorry buyer for his services in a few years. I hope I am wrong, but not much of resume prior to the last few weeks.

Me: If he goes to SH, I sure hope you are right Goose. I'm fine with a good, solid SH team- provided that we beat them on a fairly regular basis- but a BE version of what he has done at St. Peter's? No thank you. With Nova and UCONN, we have enough to deal with.

I’d agree with you.  I don’t know if Goose is being fair.

St Peters isn’t a great job, even in the MAAC.  He took over a team that finished in the bottom half of the conference 6 out of the previous 8 seasons. In 2 seasons, he turned them around and had 3 straight top 3 finishes.

Does that equal a Big East job? Maybe not.  But he’s certainly deserving of a step up to an A-10/MVC/AAC level at a minimum.
Title: Re: Can St. Peters make it to the elite eight?
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 05:52:12 PM
Whales can't talk - even when they grow up.

Uh... no.  They can actually talk thousands of miles away.