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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: #UnleashSean on March 20, 2022, 08:06:36 PM

Title: Wisconsin
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 20, 2022, 08:06:36 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2022, 08:40:37 PM
Choked against a horrible Nebraska team, failing to win an outright Big Ten title.

Barely survived against a 14 seed.

Lost what effectively was a home game to the 11 seed.

March Fade!

That after a double-digit loss to Baylor in R2 last year ... which was after getting crushed by Oregon in R1 in 2019 ... which was after failing to make the tournament in 2018.

They have become an immaterial college basketball program under Greg Gard.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 20, 2022, 09:14:05 PM
Choked against a horrible Nebraska team, failing to win an outright Big Ten title.

Barely survived against a 14 seed.

Lost what effectively was a home game to the 11 seed.



March Fade!

That after a double-digit loss to Baylor in R2 last year ... which was after getting crushed by Oregon in R1 in 2019 ... which was after failing to make the tournament in 2018.

They have become an immaterial college basketball program under Greg Gard.

Excellent points!  And do not forget the refs tried as hard as they could to hand them this game.  :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: CountryRoads on March 20, 2022, 09:18:04 PM
Hepburn, Wahl, and Crowl are decent pieces but the rest of their roster are just a bunch of stiffs. They will need to hit the portal.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2022, 09:18:35 PM
Just realized I forgot Madison’s loss to MSU in the B14 tournament.

So Madison’s March Fade included a 1-3 finish, with the one win being the narrow decision over a Patriot League team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: warriors141 on March 20, 2022, 09:19:47 PM
Choked against a horrible Nebraska team, failing to win an outright Big Ten title.

Barely survived against a 14 seed.

Lost what effectively was a home game to the 11 seed.

March Fade!

That after a double-digit loss to Baylor in R2 last year ... which was after getting crushed by Oregon in R1 in 2019 ... which was after failing to make the tournament in 2018.

They have become an immaterial college basketball program under Greg Gard.

yea, happy they lost but do we really have any right to be talking smack. I would take their last couple seasons over ours in a heartbeat
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 20, 2022, 09:21:38 PM
yea, happy they lost but do we really have any right to be talking smack. I would take their last couple seasons over ours in a heartbeat
Lighten up. It's a MU fan board.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 20, 2022, 09:22:18 PM
Whisky's 3pt shooting was the definition of futility:

2


For



22



:)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 20, 2022, 09:23:36 PM
yea, happy they lost but do we really have any right to be talking smack. I would take their last couple seasons over ours in a heartbeat

We are entitled to enjoy their pathetic performance.  :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 20, 2022, 09:25:51 PM
Hepburn, Wahl, and Crowl are decent pieces but the rest of their roster are just a bunch of stiffs. They will need to hit the portal.

Ben Carlson has had injury issues and has failed to live up to his recruiting rank.

A couple freshman redshirted, but who knows how good they'll be.

They definitely need to hit the portal but need to do better than Jachobi Neath.  Wow, was he bad this season.

PS- I will be interested to see what happens to Jordan Davis after Johnny turns pro.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on March 20, 2022, 09:28:25 PM
yea, happy they lost but do we really have any right to be talking smack. I would take their last couple seasons over ours in a heartbeat

We have no right to talk smack to anyone, but we can take pleasure in others joining in our pain.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 20, 2022, 09:33:00 PM
PS- I will be interested to see what happens to Jordan Davis after Johnny turns pro.

As Mrs. Ellenson once said, “Smoke and mirrors.”
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on March 20, 2022, 09:35:20 PM
yea, happy they lost but do we really have any right to be talking smack. I would take their last couple seasons over ours in a heartbeat

It's schadenfreude, and it's fun.

Davison went 2-3 against Marquette, and was as a major choker in two of the losses. So that's fun to know, too.

It was great seeing him whine and complain and beg and plead with the refs even though he was mugging people out there. His last airball was a delight.

I didn't think anybody could top the Kelly Tripuckas and David Rivers of my ND-hating past, but Floppy McNutpuncher might be my least favorite college basketball player ever ... and he won a grand total of 2 more NCAA games than you and I did.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 20, 2022, 09:51:38 PM
It's schadenfreude, and it's fun.

Davison went 2-3 against Marquette, and was as a major choker in two of the losses. So that's fun to know, too.

It was great seeing him whine and complain and beg and plead with the refs even though he was mugging people out there. His last airball was a delight.

I didn't think anybody could top the Kelly Tripuckas and David Rivers of my ND-hating past, but Floppy McNutpuncher might be my least favorite college basketball player ever ... and he won a grand total of 2 more NCAA games than you and I did.

His bitching about his 4th foul call was an all-timer.  Pulls the guy down while falling on his ass and then  complains like a 4yr old.  The sad thing is he was a pretty damn good player but his antics are a total embarrassment to the sport. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 20, 2022, 09:59:52 PM
Ben Carlson has had injury issues and has failed to live up to his recruiting rank.

A couple freshman redshirted, but who knows how good they'll be.

They definitely need to hit the portal but need to do better than Jachobi Neath.  Wow, was he bad this season.

PS- I will be interested to see what happens to Jordan Davis after Johnny turns pro.

Does he get the wojo treatment like Wally?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 20, 2022, 10:14:04 PM
His bitching about his 4th foul call was an all-timer.  Pulls the guy down while falling on his ass and then  complains like a 4yr old.  The sad thing is he was a pretty damn good player but his antics are a total embarrassment to the sport.
I could read the Twitter reaction to McNutpuncher all night long
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: JWags85 on March 20, 2022, 10:27:03 PM
His bitching about his 4th foul call was an all-timer.  Pulls the guy down while falling on his ass and then  complains like a 4yr old.  The sad thing is he was a pretty damn good player but his antics are a total embarrassment to the sport.

Was he though? What’s one thing he did “great” other than play dirty and flop? He became a decent 3P shooter this year, but otherwise he was volume shooter who wasn’t exactly efficient and didnt really fill up the stat sheet otherwise.

It’s not just being a hater, I just don’t think he’s in the top 10 or 15 Badgers who played under Gard
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Silent Verbal on March 20, 2022, 10:27:50 PM
Does he get the wojo treatment like Wally?

One of the few things I’ll give Wojo credit for is cutting Wally shortly after Henry went pro.  The Ellensons thought they could use Marquette and play Wojo for a sucker, and he wasn’t having it.

It’ll be mildly interesting to see if Jordan Davis is allowed to remain on scholarship after Johnny leaves.  He clearly isn’t a high major player.  My guess is the Badgers will just eat it and let him stick around. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 20, 2022, 10:35:15 PM
Was he though? What’s one thing he did “great” other than play dirty and flop? He became a decent 3P shooter this year, but otherwise he was volume shooter who wasn’t exactly efficient and didnt really fill up the stat sheet otherwise.

It’s not just being a hater, I just don’t think he’s in the top 10 or 15 Badgers who played under Gard

I dunno if he was top 15 under Gard but he rarely made mistakes, hit some big shots, and displayed leadership qualities.  You have to be pretty good if you start for a decade in the B14.  He got away with a lot of garbage but the refs allowed his bcrap. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Viper on March 20, 2022, 10:38:52 PM
Choked against a horrible Nebraska team, failing to win an outright Big Ten title.

Barely survived against a 14 seed.

Lost what effectively was a home game to the 11 seed.

March Fade!

That after a double-digit loss to Baylor in R2 last year ... which was after getting crushed by Oregon in R1 in 2019 ... which was after failing to make the tournament in 2018.

They have become an immaterial college basketball program under Greg Gard.
I love it. But compared to MU? Not saying I’d take their end results…but I’m on desperate island.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: AlumKCof93 on March 20, 2022, 10:52:39 PM
I despised Floppy as much as everyone else, even more so.  I hate to give him credit as I never thought he was all that good but he did play his ass off.  I’ll give him that much.

That said, I’m glad his career ended in this game.  His awfulness was on full display.  He played the refs as much as the other team.  So much of it was a con as created contact and bitched to the refs.  I’m shocked neither the refs or those calling the game didn’t call out his bs.  He was bad for the game
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 20, 2022, 10:55:17 PM
I was alerted that Gard and the Whisky players at the postgame press conf did not congratulate Iowa St. on their victory. I was also told that Pdouchetrykus was fighting back tears when he asked Gard a question.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: wadesworld on March 20, 2022, 10:59:28 PM
Was he though? What’s one thing he did “great” other than play dirty and flop? He became a decent 3P shooter this year, but otherwise he was volume shooter who wasn’t exactly efficient and didnt really fill up the stat sheet otherwise.

It’s not just being a hater, I just don’t think he’s in the top 10 or 15 Badgers who played under Gard

Raised the roof.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Shark on March 20, 2022, 11:04:52 PM
Whoever drafts Davis in the 1st round is going to be in for a surprise. That guys shot is gross
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: jfp61 on March 20, 2022, 11:51:27 PM
Whoever drafts Davis in the 1st round is going to be in for a surprise. That guys shot is gross

Live… jaden Ivey looks like a bigger and less flamboyant rose. Davis looks like a more athletic Jared Rowden.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 21, 2022, 06:23:43 AM
Jordan Davis isn’t great. But he’s better than Wally.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Goose on March 21, 2022, 07:53:40 AM
I very much enjoyed seeing the Badgers lose at the FF yesterday. I try very hard not to watch UW play outside of against us and made a point to watch yesterday. Davison is very high on my all time dislike list. He makes the game very difficult to watch.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 21, 2022, 08:01:04 AM
Whisky's 3pt shooting was the definition of futility:

2


For



22



:)

C'mon Muggsy! It was that bad shooting background that Dodds has explained to anyone who he can get to listen to his theory.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2022, 08:05:27 AM
I very much enjoyed seeing the Badgers lose at the FF yesterday. I try very hard not to watch UW play outside of against us and made a point to watch yesterday. Davison is very high on my all time dislike list. He makes the game very difficult to watch.

Was it the 13 fouls he committed yesterday that made him hard to watch or his shooting?  I could see a case for both
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Warrior_2002 on March 21, 2022, 08:18:41 AM
As a Wisconsinite and MU alum, I often wonder how much hate there actually is between the two schools. Would be interesting to know if it is just the MU alums that hate UW or if it goes both ways between alumna. When I was a kid I liked them both but favored MU because UW sucked in the 80s and early 90s. Now I’m kind of apathetic to UW but don’t feel extreme hate towards them. Maybe the Wisconsinite in me? There is a tweet out there by local sports radio host calling it little bro syndrome for MU fans that hate UW. Is this true or does the hate go both ways? Is this hate from MU alumni that are Wisconsin residents or non? I don’t feel like it’s hate from non-alumna as I have friends that may favor one but support both. Overall just pondering this as a curiosity as this rivalry doesn’t seem as deep as other inner state rivalries. Maybe because we don’t have football which would deepen that rivalry. Maybe worth a poll. Interested in thoughts on this one.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: 1SE on March 21, 2022, 08:24:36 AM
His bitching about his 4th foul call was an all-timer.  Pulls the guy down while falling on his ass and then  complains like a 4yr old.  The sad thing is he was a pretty damn good player but his antics are a total embarrassment to the sport.

Narrator: "He was not a pretty damn good player"
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Goose on March 21, 2022, 08:26:00 AM
Warriorr

It definitely is a one sided hatred, IMO. Over the past 20+ years UW has bigger fish to fry then worry about MU. That said, if MU gains the success on the court I would think UW might not look past MU as they do today. My dislike started with a hatred of UW basketball and has grow to dislike everything UW related.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 21, 2022, 08:30:17 AM
Narrator: "He was not a pretty damn good player"


Yeah he was better than average with some intangibles.  I thought the announcers comments about him were over the top strange. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 21, 2022, 08:32:41 AM
As a Wisconsinite and MU alum, I often wonder how much hate there actually is between the two schools. Would be interesting to know if it is just the MU alums that hate UW or if it goes both ways between alumna. When I was a kid I liked them both but favored MU because UW sucked in the 80s and early 90s. Now I’m kind of apathetic to UW but don’t feel extreme hate towards them. Maybe the Wisconsinite in me? There is a tweet out there by local sports radio host calling it little bro syndrome for MU fans that hate UW. Is this true or does the hate go both ways? Is this hate from MU alumni that are Wisconsin residents or non? I don’t feel like it’s hate from non-alumna as I have friends that may favor one but support both. Overall just pondering this as a curiosity as this rivalry doesn’t seem as deep as other inner state rivalries. Maybe because we don’t have football which would deepen that rivalry. Maybe worth a poll. Interested in thoughts on this one.

Just poke your head over to Buckyville sometime, they hate us.

Wisconsin football fans and Wisconsin alums who don't follow sports don't hate us.  But Wisconsin bball fans certainly do
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Warrior_2002 on March 21, 2022, 08:37:12 AM
TAMU
Wisconsin bball fans or UW alum bball fans? Feel like there is a difference. But maybe across the state the Milwaukee hate for non alumna transcends into the MU hate.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 21, 2022, 08:40:46 AM
Just poke your head over to Buckyville sometime, they hate us.

Wisconsin football fans and Wisconsin alums who don't follow sports don't hate us.  But Wisconsin bball fans certainly do


Buckyville, like Scoop, isn't really representative of the two fanbases.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: cheebs09 on March 21, 2022, 08:42:08 AM
Just poke your head over to Buckyville sometime, they hate us.

Wisconsin football fans and Wisconsin alums who don't follow sports don't hate us.  But Wisconsin bball fans certainly do

Agreed. As a Wisconsinite, the most posting on FB I see about Badger basketball is after the MU game or the tournament. They like to say they don’t care, but their actions say differently.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: mubb3434 on March 21, 2022, 08:45:36 AM
Agreed. As a Wisconsinite, the most posting on FB I see about Badger basketball is after the MU game or the tournament. They like to say they don’t care, but their actions say differently.

Exactly. All of my UW friends say there is no rivalry and don't care about MU, but they are always the first to trash on MU and talk about MU when the opportunity presents itself. Quite funny actually.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 21, 2022, 08:46:55 AM
Exactly. All of my UW friends say there is no rivalry and don't care about MU, but they are always the first to trash on MU and talk about MU when the opportunity presents itself. Quite funny actually.

Your what?

Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on March 21, 2022, 08:47:35 AM
Exactly. All of my UW friends say there is no rivalry and don't care about MU, but they are always the first to trash on MU and talk about MU when the opportunity presents itself. Quite funny actually.

My experience as well.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: The Lens on March 21, 2022, 08:48:07 AM
I was in the building yesterday and it was absolutely glorius.  I have never seen so many dejected UW-Oshkosh alums in my life (I think Oshkosh slightly outdrew UW Whitewater yesterday).

I cheered for the local team

Iowa State...

HC: TJO - Thomas More HS
AC: JR Blount - WFB Dominican
PG Tyrese Hunter - Racine St. Cates

Great to see the Metro stand up.  What an atmosphere. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MUfan12 on March 21, 2022, 08:56:40 AM
Exactly. All of my UW friends say there is no rivalry and don't care about MU, but they are always the first to trash on MU and talk about MU when the opportunity presents itself. Quite funny actually.

Yup.

As I've said here before, I've never had a problem with actual Madison alumni. It's the Walmart Badgers that are the most vocal in their hatred for MU.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: TJ on March 21, 2022, 09:18:17 AM
Choked against a horrible Nebraska team, failing to win an outright Big Ten title.

Barely survived against a 14 seed.

Lost what effectively was a home game to the 11 seed.

March Fade!

That after a double-digit loss to Baylor in R2 last year ... which was after getting crushed by Oregon in R1 in 2019 ... which was after failing to make the tournament in 2018.

They have become an immaterial college basketball program under Greg Gard.
last time MU lost an NCAA tournament game by less than 20 was 2013. Maybe consider we should not throw so many stones from our glass house.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 09:33:50 AM
Narrator: "He was not a pretty damn good player"

Damn good was an overstatement but he was definitely above overage. Now, I think part of the reason he was valuable is because the refs allowed him to foul 15 times a game.  Someone asked "what did he do very well??  The answer is he didn't turn the ball over.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: wadesworld on March 21, 2022, 09:37:47 AM
Did he sing Varsity last night?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 21, 2022, 09:40:32 AM
last time MU lost an NCAA tournament game by less than 20 was 2013. Maybe consider we should not throw so many stones from our glass house.
::)
The post didn't really 'throw stones', it was almost all facts. This is a MU fan board, it not like they went to a Badger board to gloat. This happens 1,000+ times per day on other fan boards.

MU ending their season with a thud should not and does not preclude them from 'enjoying' Madison blowing a golden opportunity to go to the S16 on a virtual home court.

Personally, I don't care about Madison. I find it funny that, like others here, Madison alum I've met are smart fans who respect and / or like MU. I think the "Wisconsin" fans who never went to Madison or maybe any college are the ones dislike MU. It's the "rich kids" school to them.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BM1090 on March 21, 2022, 09:41:50 AM
last time MU lost an NCAA tournament game by less than 20 was 2013. Maybe consider we should not throw so many stones from our glass house.

It was 2019, actually.  :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 09:50:43 AM
Yup.

As I've said here before, I've never had a problem with actual Madison alumni. It's the Walmart Badgers that are the most vocal in their hatred for MU.

It's a complex mix.  My boss is a UW-madison alum and season ticket holder and he has said on numerous occasions "man, I really hate Marquette".  I never miss an opportunity to stoke the rivalry once I learned of this irrational hatred.

I think that many of the WalMart badger fans hate MU because they are afraid of the "big city" (and there may be some underlying racism involved).

Finally, none of the badger fans I know, except the aforementioned boss, will admit they have any hate towards MU, but like others have said, they always take potshots at us any chance they get. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: withoutbias on March 21, 2022, 09:52:32 AM
Anytime you have to tell someone that they aren't you're rival, you know that they definitely are not your rival.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MUfan12 on March 21, 2022, 10:00:26 AM
I think that many of the WalMart badger fans hate MU because they are afraid of the "big city" (and there may be some underlying racism involved).

There's that, and they don't view MU as "Wisconsin" enough to support as a local team. Too many rich kids from Illinois, I've heard.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 21, 2022, 10:03:58 AM
Did he sing Varsity last night?

Through the tears.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: JWags85 on March 21, 2022, 10:04:08 AM
There's that, and they don't view MU as "Wisconsin" enough to support as a local team. Too many rich kids from Illinois, I've heard.

As opposed to the hoards of rich kids from the East Coast at UW  ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: The Lens on March 21, 2022, 10:07:11 AM
There's that, and they don't view MU as "Wisconsin" enough to support as a local team. Too many rich kids from Illinois, I've heard.

It's our F'd up German / Protestant / Lutheran culture.  Investment in "private" education seems foolhardy to them.  But damn if they don't mind refinancing to trick out their basement or buy a boat. 

You tell a Chicago person of any stripe you're going to MU and they say:  that's cool your parents must be really sacrificing to get you a great education.  You tell the same to a Wisconsinite and they call you rich...while they wax poetic about their place in Waupaca and their ski-doos.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2022, 10:17:46 AM
I don’t particularly care what Badger fans think about Marquette at the moment.  I do enjoy Milwaukee’s own, coaching Iowa State past them in a Milwaukee facility in front of a lot of Cardinal and White.

I’d liken it to the feeling I get when Cubs fans leave AmFam after a loss.  Thanks for your patronage and money.  Drive home safely
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Goose on March 21, 2022, 10:19:52 AM
Rico

The Badgers losing in MKE was the best part. I am a TJ fan and that added to the mix.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: The Lens on March 21, 2022, 10:23:46 AM
The Badgers are 1-3 at the Fiserv.  Uncool of the selection committe to put them in a building where they always struggle. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: willie warrior on March 21, 2022, 10:27:01 AM
Good to see them lose, but we were smacked down by a landsie.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 10:32:07 AM
I love this thread. 

I enjoyed watching madison lose that rock fight.

I chuckled seeing that sour look on Johnny Davis's sour mug every time they showed him.  He always looks like he's about to burst into tears. That kid clearly does not enjoy playing the game. 

And I especially reveled in the tears flowing down the 27-year-old 8th-year senior Nutpuncher's face after the buzzer.  Go away already you clown.  You've long overstayed your welcome.

That team already struggles to score.  Imagine them next year without Sourpuss Davis.

;D
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on March 21, 2022, 10:35:57 AM
I was cheering openly for Colgate. Went to session one, Sold my tickets for session two at a nice profit.
I was ok with the first win, which secured my ability to sell session three for an equally nice profit. Then they lost.
Great weekend!
Make $ off Badger fan and they lose?
Sign me up!
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Viper on March 21, 2022, 10:54:46 AM
Just poke your head over to Buckyville sometime, they hate us.

Wisconsin football fans and Wisconsin alums who don't follow sports don't hate us.  But Wisconsin bball fans certainly do
100%. I have some UW ‘friends’. They hate Marquette. Which I love! Sometimes a little hate is…good!
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MUDPT on March 21, 2022, 11:24:20 AM
There was lots of dog whistling during the Buzz years, led by the WSJ staff. It seems they’ve lost most of their high school sports coverage now, so they can’t leak athletes grades from the UW coaches anymore.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 11:25:14 AM
Wisconsin had a worse postseason than MU did.

Top seed in the Big14Ten Tourney and they're upset in the 1st round.

3 seed in the NCAAs and they squeak past 14 seed Patriot League Colgate before being sent home by an 11 seed in front of their home crowd.

A fart in the wind, one might say.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 21, 2022, 11:36:19 AM
As opposed to the hoards of rich kids from the East Coast at UW  ::)
Thank god the NE has Harvard, Yale and Princeton as 'safe' schools for those kids that get rejected by Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: buckchuckler on March 21, 2022, 11:36:39 AM
Wisconsin had a worse postseason than MU did.

Top seed in the Big14Ten Tourney and they're upset in the 1st round.

3 seed in the NCAAs and they squeak past 14 seed Patriot League Colgate before being sent home by an 11 seed in front of their home crowd.

A fart in the wind, one might say.

Is a fart in the wind worse than a crap down one's pants?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 11:41:22 AM
Is a fart in the wind worse than a crap down one's pants?

It's an easier cleanup, and also more easily forgotten.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: JWags85 on March 21, 2022, 11:42:41 AM
There was lots of dog whistling during the Buzz years, led by the WSJ staff. It seems they’ve lost most of their high school sports coverage now, so they can’t leak athletes grades from the UW coaches anymore.

The old Tom Oates special. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: mubb3434 on March 21, 2022, 11:54:33 AM
Thought of the day....

MU fans (and/or MU) should come together and put a billboard up on I-94 coming into Milwaukee suburbs saying "Milwaukee, Home of the Golden Eagles", or "You are in Marquette Country".

When I went to the 2013 NCAA tournament in Kentucky, Louisville had a massive one that said "You are in Cards Country" along the stretch that connects Louisville and Lexington. Thought that was pretty cool.

Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 21, 2022, 11:58:58 AM
It's our F'd up German / Protestant / Lutheran culture.  Investment in "private" education seems foolhardy to them.  But damn if they don't mind refinancing to trick out their basement or buy a boat. 

You tell a Chicago person of any stripe you're going to MU and they say:  that's cool your parents must be really sacrificing to get you a great education.  You tell the same to a Wisconsinite and they call you rich...while they wax poetic about their place in Waupaca and their ski-doos.

And name them the Panty Dropper.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on March 21, 2022, 12:01:55 PM
last time MU lost an NCAA tournament game by less than 20 was 2013. Maybe consider we should not throw so many stones from our glass house.

Thoroughly enjoyed watching Madison lose a home game to an 11 seed coached by a Milwaukee guy. It was especially enjoyable watching Floppy McNutpuncher cry after his Foul-And-Whine-Athon failed.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 12:34:35 PM
I decided to read a few Buckyville threads and haven't done so for a long time.  You want to know why people really despise this fanbase and program?  Peruse some of the total nonsense and drivel from clearly delusional people.  "95% of the time Brad Davison doesn't get a call."  I know I and many Scoopers have MU bias  but we're not living in la-la-land and conjuring things out of thin air.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on March 21, 2022, 12:42:08 PM
I know I and many Scoopers have MU bias  but we're not living in la-la-land and conjuring things out of thin air.
Maybe not conjuring things out of thin air……but lala land was achieved by those on here who said they felt good about this team before March madness and felt good about a win in the tourney.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: withoutbias on March 21, 2022, 12:42:33 PM
The video of Brad Davison waiting out on the court an extra 15 seconds looking around and then like starting to waive to the crowd only to realize nobody's giving him the ovation he's so desperately looking for is hilarious.  He twice tries to waive and gets very little response, so finally he moves on.

Then the attempt to get some sort of tears out while walking down the hallway.  That guy just wants the "win or lose" line in One Shining Moment for himself so bad.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 12:47:42 PM
Maybe not conjuring things out of thin air……but lala land was achieved by those on here who said they felt good about this team before March madness and felt good about a win in the tourney.

I don't recall many here not having serious worries about our team after the BET loss.  You try to be optimistic of course but that's different than being delusional.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on March 21, 2022, 12:50:51 PM
I'll admit to being optimistic about beating UNC. Turns out I was overly optimistic. Oh well ... I can live with that.

Looking forward to Shaka leading us to a better 2022-23 season, one that will include Floppy's former team getting stomped in Fiserv again!
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 01:03:13 PM
I decided to read a few Buckyville threads and haven't done so for a long time.  You want to know why people really despise this fanbase and program?  Peruse some of the total nonsense and drivel from clearly delusional people.  "95% of the time Brad Davison doesn't get a call."  I know I and many Scoopers have MU bias  but we're not living in la-la-land and conjuring things out of thin air.

Davison grabs, shoves, hooks, pushes, stiffarms, flops, runs over, or crashes into someone on every single play.  After watching that clown disgrace the game for almost a decade, I still cannot figure out how the refs let him stay in any game past halftime.  He gets away with more crap than anyone I've ever seen.  Including LeBron.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Miss Katie’s on March 21, 2022, 01:11:35 PM
Ben Carlson has had injury issues and has failed to live up to his recruiting rank.

A couple freshman redshirted, but who knows how good they'll be.

They definitely need to hit the portal but need to do better than Jachobi Neath.  Wow, was he bad this season.

PS- I will be interested to see what happens to Jordan Davis after Johnny turns pro.

Lorne Bowman definitely has potential, but it remains to be seen if he will return next season after what has been rumored to be mental health struggles. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Miss Katie’s on March 21, 2022, 01:19:14 PM
I was in the building yesterday and it was absolutely glorius.  I have never seen so many dejected UW-Oshkosh alums in my life (I think Oshkosh slightly outdrew UW Whitewater yesterday).

I cheered for the local team

Iowa State...

HC: TJO - Thomas More HS
AC: JR Blount - WFB Dominican
PG Tyrese Hunter - Racine St. Cates

Great to see the Metro stand up.  What an atmosphere.

Agreed.  I was there with my daughter who is a TM alum and former Metro player.  Represent!
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Dickthedribbler on March 21, 2022, 01:35:16 PM
Ben Carlson has had injury issues and has failed to live up to his recruiting rank.

A couple freshman redshirted, but who knows how good they'll be.

They definitely need to hit the portal but need to do better than Jachobi Neath.  Wow, was he bad this season.

PS- I will be interested to see what happens to Jordan Davis after Johnny turns pro.

As I understood it, coming out of high school, Johnny was more the basketball star and Jordan was the football star. I assume Paul Chryst could find room on the football team for Jordan if that would keep everyone happy.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 21, 2022, 01:35:36 PM
Davison grabs, shoves, hooks, pushes, stiffarms, flops, runs over, or crashes into someone on every single play.  After watching that clown disgrace the game for almost a decade, I still cannot figure out how the refs let him stay in any game past halftime.  He gets away with more crap than anyone I've ever seen.  Including LeBron.

And you left out punches someone in the nuts, moves his foot under a rebounder coming down, kicks his legs out, and slides his foot to trip someone.

Yet, at Buckyville they are delusional and think he "is a great representative of the university". Meanwhile, everyone else in the country think he is a scumbag for his on-court actions.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 01:40:24 PM
And you left out punches someone in the nuts, moves his foot under a rebounder coming down, kicks his legs out, and slides his foot to trip someone.

Yet, at Buckyville they are delusional and think he "is a great representative of the university". Meanwhile, everyone else in the country think he is a scumbag for his on-court actions.

Thank you, I did forget some of those. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 21, 2022, 01:49:42 PM
As I understood it, coming out of high school, Johnny was more the basketball star and Jordan was the football star. I assume Paul Chryst could find room on the football team for Jordan if that would keep everyone happy.

Wisconsin football recruited Jordan a bit but I don't believe they ever offered.

My read was that Chryst didn't want to use a football scholarship to help primarily the basketball team, so Gard was forced to make Jordan an offer.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2022, 02:09:28 PM
Wisconsin football recruited Jordan a bit but I don't believe they ever offered.

My read was that Chryst didn't want to use a football scholarship to help primarily the basketball team, so Gard was forced to make Jordan an offer.

I’ve been told Gard is incredible at molding 2 and 3* recruits into All-Americans, so Jordan should be fine
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Dickthedribbler on March 21, 2022, 02:16:23 PM
I have been watching this Marquette/Wisconsin love/hate debate for 55+ years. Do UW basketball fans hate MU basketball as much as MU basketball fans hate UW basketball????

The answer is "yes" , and then some.

That's why every year the week before the game there's a 10 page thread on Buckyville explaining why they don't care about MU basketball. The old time UW fans especially despised MU and I will cite 3 of many reasons :

1. From the late 1960s and through the 1970s MU spent virtually every week in the AP and UPI Top 10. UW spent that entire time trying to escape the B10 second division ( during that period Al's record against UW was something like 19-2).

2. That 1974 picture of All standing on the scorers table at the old Arena after a buzzer beating win has a lasting effect. To this day, every year before the game that picture appears in some newspaper in the State of Wisconsin, to the glee of all MU fans and the horror of UW fans.

3. There were a handful of years in the 1960s and 1970s when the Badgers played MU twice per season, with BOTH games being played in Milwaukee on MU's home court. Imagine the indignity. No team would ever agree to that arrangement today. Ever.

UW put up with a lot back in the day, and many haven't forgotten.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: GB Warrior on March 21, 2022, 02:19:31 PM
Was he though? What’s one thing he did “great” other than play dirty and flop? He became a decent 3P shooter this year, but otherwise he was volume shooter who wasn’t exactly efficient and didnt really fill up the stat sheet otherwise.

It’s not just being a hater, I just don’t think he’s in the top 10 or 15 Badgers who played under Gard

Really inefficient, always had to have his hand on the ball.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: avid1010 on March 21, 2022, 02:31:10 PM
I don't trash college kids...and I get Davison is a grown man (by age not behavior)...but he is an absolute a$$ and garbage player. 

I could pull for UW under Bennett...the Barry and Bo show was disgusting...and Gard lands guilty by association.  The only thing I enjoy about Gard remaining at UW is there couldn't be a more polar opposite to Shaka.  Those recruiting battles should be easy for Shaka.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 03:37:23 PM
I don't have some detailed analysis of whether most UW fans consider us a rival or vice versa.  Frankly, I don't even care.  But I could easily write a 200 page dissertation about why I hate that program with a passion. 

The funny thing is during my first year of grad school in Madison I was totally willing to root for them as my 2nd favorite hoops team behind Marquette.  Let's just say that ship sailed pretty quickly for a myriad of reasons.  I know I shared this story on the other MU website but perhaps I have not here.   This is what brought me to a full fledged  hater with zero apologies:

About 11-12 years ago I was having dinner at the Avenue Bar with friends and sitting next to me was a member of the Madison Sports Media (a.k.a the trio of trash/ignominious triumvirate).    I was enjoying my wedge salad  and a nice Oktoberfest brew until I couldn't help overhear the conversation next to me.  I honestly didn't know who the guy was initially, but he was clearly a local sports writer as he was obnoxiously talking about his relationship with Bo Ryan and a number of other things for the purpose of letting everyone know his "celebrity" in Madison. 

It didn't bother me and I continued eating my salad until he started waxing poetic about Marquette and in particular Darius Johnson Odom.  He proceeded to rip the young man to shreds, calling him a Juco moron, a head case, overrated, and a number of additional derogatory remarks.  He also added and I quote "Marquette has a terrible APR score and probably won't be eligible for the tournament come the Spring."

This is when I had enough.  I stood up, looked him straight in the eye, and said "You realize you have no fking idea what you're talking about and are a colossal a-hole"....with a few additional colorful words.  He proceeded to be stunned as I am not a large individual and he just didn't see this coming at all.  Anyway, he got his fat ass off his chair, was very close to starting a physical altercation with me, until he saw my friend  beside me.  :)  You see my buddy (while a peaceful individual) is 6'4 225 and not exactly a person you fk with.  :)

Anyhow, that brought me to absolutely loathing that program.  I also alerted that piece of garbage that APR scores are public knowledge and that lying as a "media member" should result in his immediate termination.  This I just one of 100+ stories I have that has increased my hostility for the Badgers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Viper on March 21, 2022, 03:41:48 PM
I don't have some detailed analysis of whether most UW fans consider us a rival or vice versa.  Frankly, I don't even care.  But I could easily write a 200 page dissertation about why I hate that program with a passion. 

The funny thing is during my first year of grad school in Madison I was totally willing to root for them as my 2nd favorite hoops team behind Marquette.  Let's just say that ship sailed pretty quickly for a myriad of reasons.  I know I shared this story on the other MU website but perhaps I have not here.   This is what brought me to a full fledged  hater with zero apologies:

About 11-12 years ago I was having dinner at the Avenue Bar with friends and sitting next to me was a member of the Madison Sports Media (a.k.a the trio of trash/ignominious triumvirate).    I was enjoying my wedge salad  and a nice Oktoberfest brew until I couldn't help overhear the conversation next to me.  I honestly didn't know who the guy was initially, but he was clearly a local sports writer as he was obnoxiously talking about his relationship with Bo Ryan and a number of other things for the purpose of letting everyone know his "celebrity" in Madison. 

It didn't bother me and I continued eating my salad until he started waxing poetic about Marquette and in particular Darius Johnson Odom.  He proceeded to rip the young man to shreds, calling him a Juco moron, a head case, overrated, and a number of additional derogatory remarks.  He also added and I quote "Marquette has a terrible APR score and probably won't be eligible for the tournament come the Spring."

This is when I had enough.  I stood up, looked him straight in the eye, and said "You realize you have no fking idea what you're talking about and are a colossal a-hole"....with a few additional colorful words.  He proceeded to be stunned as I am not a large individual and he just didn't see this coming at all.  Anyway, he got he got his fat ass off his chair, was very close to starting a physical altercation with me, until he saw my friend  beside me.  :)  You see my buddy (while a peaceful individual) is 6'4 225 and not exactly a person you fk with.  :)

Anyhow, that brought me to absolutely loathing that program.  I also alerted that piece of garbage that APR scores are public knowledge and that lying as a "media member" should result in his immediate termination.  This I just one of 100+ stories I have that has increased my hostility for the Badgers.
ranch or thousand island?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: brewcity77 on March 21, 2022, 03:42:47 PM
I know I shared this story on the other MU website but perhaps I have not here.

Other Marquette website? What do you mean? There is Scoop and there is Arby's. That's it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 03:43:06 PM
ranch or thousand island?

Ranch.  :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 03:45:24 PM
Other Marquette website? What do you mean? There is Scoop and there is Arby's. That's it.

My bad brew. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Miss Katie’s on March 21, 2022, 03:48:44 PM
ranch or thousand island?

A wedge needs bleu cheese!
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: withoutbias on March 21, 2022, 03:59:06 PM
I had a friend who was a Badger fan that was at some kind of conference for athletic directors.  He had a table set up for his non-profit organization and saw Barry Alveraz walk by.  He decided he'd go up to him and just give him his card and explain his organization quickly.  So he did, and Barry's response was, "What do you think I'll do with this?" and threw my friend's card in the trash.

If you're in Barry's shoes how hard is it to say, "Thanks" and walk away and then throw it away when you get out of sight even if you think the guy is wasting your very important time.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: wadesworld on March 21, 2022, 03:59:58 PM
Ranch.  :)

This is the correct answer.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MUDPT on March 21, 2022, 04:04:48 PM
I don't have some detailed analysis of whether most UW fans consider us a rival or vice versa.  Frankly, I don't even care.  But I could easily write a 200 page dissertation about why I hate that program with a passion. 

The funny thing is during my first year of grad school in Madison I was totally willing to root for them as my 2nd favorite hoops team behind Marquette.  Let's just say that ship sailed pretty quickly for a myriad of reasons.  I know I shared this story on the other MU website but perhaps I have not here.   This is what brought me to a full fledged  hater with zero apologies:

About 11-12 years ago I was having dinner at the Avenue Bar with friends and sitting next to me was a member of the Madison Sports Media (a.k.a the trio of trash/ignominious triumvirate).    I was enjoying my wedge salad  and a nice Oktoberfest brew until I couldn't help overhear the conversation next to me.  I honestly didn't know who the guy was initially, but he was clearly a local sports writer as he was obnoxiously talking about his relationship with Bo Ryan and a number of other things for the purpose of letting everyone know his "celebrity" in Madison. 

It didn't bother me and I continued eating my salad until he started waxing poetic about Marquette and in particular Darius Johnson Odom.  He proceeded to rip the young man to shreds, calling him a Juco moron, a head case, overrated, and a number of additional derogatory remarks.  He also added and I quote "Marquette has a terrible APR score and probably won't be eligible for the tournament come the Spring."

This is when I had enough.  I stood up, looked him straight in the eye, and said "You realize you have no fking idea what you're talking about and are a colossal a-hole"....with a few additional colorful words.  He proceeded to be stunned as I am not a large individual and he just didn't see this coming at all.  Anyway, he got his fat ass off his chair, was very close to starting a physical altercation with me, until he saw my friend  beside me.  :)  You see my buddy (while a peaceful individual) is 6'4 225 and not exactly a person you fk with.  :)

Anyhow, that brought me to absolutely loathing that program.  I also alerted that piece of garbage that APR scores are public knowledge and that lying as a "media member" should result in his immediate termination.  This I just one of 100+ stories I have that has increased my hostility for the Badgers.

Surprised Oates was at Avenue Bar and not Babe’s.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 04:13:26 PM
Surprised Oates was at Avenue Bar and not Babe’s.

Both I've been told don't exist anymore.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 21, 2022, 04:17:12 PM
I don't have some detailed analysis of whether most UW fans consider us a rival or vice versa.  Frankly, I don't even care.  But I could easily write a 200 page dissertation about why I hate that program with a passion. 

The funny thing is during my first year of grad school in Madison I was totally willing to root for them as my 2nd favorite hoops team behind Marquette.  Let's just say that ship sailed pretty quickly for a myriad of reasons.  I know I shared this story on the other MU website but perhaps I have not here.   This is what brought me to a full fledged  hater with zero apologies:

About 11-12 years ago I was having dinner at the Avenue Bar with friends and sitting next to me was a member of the Madison Sports Media (a.k.a the trio of trash/ignominious triumvirate).    I was enjoying my wedge salad  and a nice Oktoberfest brew until I couldn't help overhear the conversation next to me.  I honestly didn't know who the guy was initially, but he was clearly a local sports writer as he was obnoxiously talking about his relationship with Bo Ryan and a number of other things for the purpose of letting everyone know his "celebrity" in Madison. 

It didn't bother me and I continued eating my salad until he started waxing poetic about Marquette and in particular Darius Johnson Odom.  He proceeded to rip the young man to shreds, calling him a Juco moron, a head case, overrated, and a number of additional derogatory remarks.  He also added and I quote "Marquette has a terrible APR score and probably won't be eligible for the tournament come the Spring."

This is when I had enough.  I stood up, looked him straight in the eye, and said "You realize you have no fking idea what you're talking about and are a colossal a-hole"....with a few additional colorful words.  He proceeded to be stunned as I am not a large individual and he just didn't see this coming at all.  Anyway, he got his fat ass off his chair, was very close to starting a physical altercation with me, until he saw my friend  beside me.  :)  You see my buddy (while a peaceful individual) is 6'4 225 and not exactly a person you fk with.  :)

Anyhow, that brought me to absolutely loathing that program.  I also alerted that piece of garbage that APR scores are public knowledge and that lying as a "media member" should result in his immediate termination.  This I just one of 100+ stories I have that has increased my hostility for the Badgers.

Good story Muggs....please give us more!  Keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 21, 2022, 04:28:06 PM
Both I've been told don't exist anymore.

Both are gone.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Norm on March 21, 2022, 04:37:17 PM
I don't have some detailed analysis of whether most UW fans consider us a rival or vice versa.  Frankly, I don't even care.  But I could easily write a 200 page dissertation about why I hate that program with a passion. 

The funny thing is during my first year of grad school in Madison I was totally willing to root for them as my 2nd favorite hoops team behind Marquette.  Let's just say that ship sailed pretty quickly for a myriad of reasons.  I know I shared this story on the other MU website but perhaps I have not here.   This is what brought me to a full fledged  hater with zero apologies:

About 11-12 years ago I was having dinner at the Avenue Bar with friends and sitting next to me was a member of the Madison Sports Media (a.k.a the trio of trash/ignominious triumvirate).    I was enjoying my wedge salad  and a nice Oktoberfest brew until I couldn't help overhear the conversation next to me.  I honestly didn't know who the guy was initially, but he was clearly a local sports writer as he was obnoxiously talking about his relationship with Bo Ryan and a number of other things for the purpose of letting everyone know his "celebrity" in Madison. 

It didn't bother me and I continued eating my salad until he started waxing poetic about Marquette and in particular Darius Johnson Odom.  He proceeded to rip the young man to shreds, calling him a Juco moron, a head case, overrated, and a number of additional derogatory remarks.  He also added and I quote "Marquette has a terrible APR score and probably won't be eligible for the tournament come the Spring."

This is when I had enough.  I stood up, looked him straight in the eye, and said "You realize you have no fking idea what you're talking about and are a colossal a-hole"....with a few additional colorful words.  He proceeded to be stunned as I am not a large individual and he just didn't see this coming at all.  Anyway, he got his fat ass off his chair, was very close to starting a physical altercation with me, until he saw my friend  beside me.  :)  You see my buddy (while a peaceful individual) is 6'4 225 and not exactly a person you fk with.  :)

Anyhow, that brought me to absolutely loathing that program.  I also alerted that piece of garbage that APR scores are public knowledge and that lying as a "media member" should result in his immediate termination.  This I just one of 100+ stories I have that has increased my hostility for the Badgers.

I too went to UW-Madison for grad school after finishing my undergraduate yeas at Marquette. This was in the early 1990's. I was enjoying the Union Terrace on a nice spring day, having a brat and some beers, when the conversation at the table suddenly started turning to Marquette. One guy at the table did not realize I had gone there and started to bitch about the state legislature given the Marquette Dental School some funding in the state education budget. He proceeded to complain about a private university getting state funds. I asked him what public dental schools exist in the state of Wisconsin and of course he didn't know. I told him that Marquette had the only dental school and that anyone can come in and get free dental services as part of the condition for the funding. He then proceed to complain that even so, the state shouldn't be giving any money to a school full of rich kids. Now, this may have changed over the years, but at the time Marquette only had about the 8th or 9th highest per capita family income among student families among Wisconsin colleges. The school with the highest per-capita family income at the time? UW-Madison.
I again proceeded to tell this guy he had absolutely no idea what he was talking about and that he might want to beef up on some facts rather than stupid stereotypes.

I have a son who is now considering both Marquette and UW-Madison for college. I have told him that he is fine to pick either one but that if he does go to UW that he knows I will never root for Badger basketball even while he is there.


Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2022, 04:38:08 PM
I don't have some detailed analysis of whether most UW fans consider us a rival or vice versa.  Frankly, I don't even care.  But I could easily write a 200 page dissertation about why I hate that program with a passion. 

The funny thing is during my first year of grad school in Madison I was totally willing to root for them as my 2nd favorite hoops team behind Marquette.  Let's just say that ship sailed pretty quickly for a myriad of reasons.  I know I shared this story on the other MU website but perhaps I have not here.   This is what brought me to a full fledged  hater with zero apologies:

About 11-12 years ago I was having dinner at the Avenue Bar with friends and sitting next to me was a member of the Madison Sports Media (a.k.a the trio of trash/ignominious triumvirate).    I was enjoying my wedge salad  and a nice Oktoberfest brew until I couldn't help overhear the conversation next to me.  I honestly didn't know who the guy was initially, but he was clearly a local sports writer as he was obnoxiously talking about his relationship with Bo Ryan and a number of other things for the purpose of letting everyone know his "celebrity" in Madison. 

It didn't bother me and I continued eating my salad until he started waxing poetic about Marquette and in particular Darius Johnson Odom.  He proceeded to rip the young man to shreds, calling him a Juco moron, a head case, overrated, and a number of additional derogatory remarks.  He also added and I quote "Marquette has a terrible APR score and probably won't be eligible for the tournament come the Spring."

This is when I had enough.  I stood up, looked him straight in the eye, and said "You realize you have no fking idea what you're talking about and are a colossal a-hole"....with a few additional colorful words.  He proceeded to be stunned as I am not a large individual and he just didn't see this coming at all.  Anyway, he got his fat ass off his chair, was very close to starting a physical altercation with me, until he saw my friend  beside me.  :)  You see my buddy (while a peaceful individual) is 6'4 225 and not exactly a person you fk with.  :)

Anyhow, that brought me to absolutely loathing that program.  I also alerted that piece of garbage that APR scores are public knowledge and that lying as a "media member" should result in his immediate termination.  This I just one of 100+ stories I have that has increased my hostility for the Badgers.

I had an online Oates occurrence when he took a shot at Iowa for losing to Villanova in the 2016 NCAA Tournament saying it was a bad look to lose to a Jay Wright coached team in March.  He was pretty quiet after the national title game
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 21, 2022, 04:40:02 PM
I too went to UW-Madison for grad school after finishing my undergraduate yeas at Marquette. This was in the early 1990's. I was enjoying the Union Terrace on a nice spring day, having a brat and some beers, when the conversation at the table suddenly started turning to Marquette. One guy at the table did not realize I had gone there and started to bitch about the state legislature given the Marquette Dental School some funding in the state education budget. He proceeded to complain about a private university getting state funds. I asked him what public dental schools exist in the state of Wisconsin and of course he didn't know. I told him that Marquette had the only dental school and that anyone can come in and get free dental services as part of the condition for the funding. He then proceed to complain that even so, the state shouldn't be giving any money to a school full of rich kids. Now, this may have changed over the years, but at the time Marquette only had about the 8th or 9th highest per capita family income among student families among Wisconsin colleges. The school with the highest per-capita family income at the time? UW-Madison.
I again proceeded to tell this guy he had absolutely no idea what he was talking about and that he might want to beef up on some facts rather than stupid stereotypes.

I have a son who is now considering both Marquette and UW-Madison for college. I have told him that he is fine to pick either one but that if he does go to UW that he knows I will never root for Badger basketball even while he is there.

Badger fans love to bitch about any public assistance going to any private school. I think it’s a merit badge
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Daniel on March 21, 2022, 04:42:28 PM
I don't have some detailed analysis of whether most UW fans consider us a rival or vice versa.  Frankly, I don't even care.  But I could easily write a 200 page dissertation about why I hate that program with a passion. 

The funny thing is during my first year of grad school in Madison I was totally willing to root for them as my 2nd favorite hoops team behind Marquette.  Let's just say that ship sailed pretty quickly for a myriad of reasons.  I know I shared this story on the other MU website but perhaps I have not here.   This is what brought me to a full fledged  hater with zero apologies:

About 11-12 years ago I was having dinner at the Avenue Bar with friends and sitting next to me was a member of the Madison Sports Media (a.k.a the trio of trash/ignominious triumvirate).    I was enjoying my wedge salad  and a nice Oktoberfest brew until I couldn't help overhear the conversation next to me.  I honestly didn't know who the guy was initially, but he was clearly a local sports writer as he was obnoxiously talking about his relationship with Bo Ryan and a number of other things for the purpose of letting everyone know his "celebrity" in Madison. 

It didn't bother me and I continued eating my salad until he started waxing poetic about Marquette and in particular Darius Johnson Odom.  He proceeded to rip the young man to shreds, calling him a Juco moron, a head case, overrated, and a number of additional derogatory remarks.  He also added and I quote "Marquette has a terrible APR score and probably won't be eligible for the tournament come the Spring."

This is when I had enough.  I stood up, looked him straight in the eye, and said "You realize you have no fking idea what you're talking about and are a colossal a-hole"....with a few additional colorful words.  He proceeded to be stunned as I am not a large individual and he just didn't see this coming at all.  Anyway, he got his fat ass off his chair, was very close to starting a physical altercation with me, until he saw my friend  beside me.  :)  You see my buddy (while a peaceful individual) is 6'4 225 and not exactly a person you fk with.  :)

Anyhow, that brought me to absolutely loathing that program.  I also alerted that piece of garbage that APR scores are public knowledge and that lying as a "media member" should result in his immediate termination.  This I just one of 100+ stories I have that has increased my hostility for the Badgers.

Nice story, Muggsy!  Pompous asses are hard to deal with. And you let him have it.    Good thing your busy was with.   How was the Oktoberfest brew?   Loo
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 21, 2022, 04:45:43 PM
Note to self: Never, ever screw with Muggsy.

Edit: especially when he is accompanied by his bodyguard.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: dgies9156 on March 21, 2022, 04:57:08 PM
A wedge needs blue cheese!

DITTO  +100000000000
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 21, 2022, 06:19:21 PM
DITTO  +100000000000

Blu Cheese, btw, for those of us who are cultured. And it smells like Yadi's decade old catcher's gear.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 21, 2022, 06:32:47 PM
I don't have some detailed analysis of whether most UW fans consider us a rival or vice versa.  Frankly, I don't even care.  But I could easily write a 200 page dissertation about why I hate that program with a passion. 

The funny thing is during my first year of grad school in Madison I was totally willing to root for them as my 2nd favorite hoops team behind Marquette.  Let's just say that ship sailed pretty quickly for a myriad of reasons.  I know I shared this story on the other MU website but perhaps I have not here.   This is what brought me to a full fledged  hater with zero apologies:

About 11-12 years ago I was having dinner at the Avenue Bar with friends and sitting next to me was a member of the Madison Sports Media (a.k.a the trio of trash/ignominious triumvirate).    I was enjoying my wedge salad  and a nice Oktoberfest brew until I couldn't help overhear the conversation next to me.  I honestly didn't know who the guy was initially, but he was clearly a local sports writer as he was obnoxiously talking about his relationship with Bo Ryan and a number of other things for the purpose of letting everyone know his "celebrity" in Madison. 

It didn't bother me and I continued eating my salad until he started waxing poetic about Marquette and in particular Darius Johnson Odom.  He proceeded to rip the young man to shreds, calling him a Juco moron, a head case, overrated, and a number of additional derogatory remarks.  He also added and I quote "Marquette has a terrible APR score and probably won't be eligible for the tournament come the Spring."

This is when I had enough.  I stood up, looked him straight in the eye, and said "You realize you have no fking idea what you're talking about and are a colossal a-hole"....with a few additional colorful words.  He proceeded to be stunned as I am not a large individual and he just didn't see this coming at all.  Anyway, he got his fat ass off his chair, was very close to starting a physical altercation with me, until he saw my friend  beside me.  :)  You see my buddy (while a peaceful individual) is 6'4 225 and not exactly a person you fk with.  :)

Anyhow, that brought me to absolutely loathing that program.  I also alerted that piece of garbage that APR scores are public knowledge and that lying as a "media member" should result in his immediate termination.  This I just one of 100+ stories I have that has increased my hostility for the Badgers.

You're friends with Jack Reacher?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 21, 2022, 06:55:07 PM
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(I'm glad it's a giant sized image!)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Viper on March 21, 2022, 07:00:41 PM
I too went to UW-Madison for grad school after finishing my undergraduate yeas at Marquette. This was in the early 1990's. I was enjoying the Union Terrace on a nice spring day, having a brat and some beers, when the conversation at the table suddenly started turning to Marquette. One guy at the table did not realize I had gone there and started to bitch about the state legislature given the Marquette Dental School some funding in the state education budget. He proceeded to complain about a private university getting state funds. I asked him what public dental schools exist in the state of Wisconsin and of course he didn't know. I told him that Marquette had the only dental school and that anyone can come in and get free dental services as part of the condition for the funding. He then proceed to complain that even so, the state shouldn't be giving any money to a school full of rich kids. Now, this may have changed over the years, but at the time Marquette only had about the 8th or 9th highest per capita family income among student families among Wisconsin colleges. The school with the highest per-capita family income at the time? UW-Madison.
I again proceeded to tell this guy he had absolutely no idea what he was talking about and that he might want to beef up on some facts rather than stupid stereotypes.

I have a son who is now considering both Marquette and UW-Madison for college. I have told him that he is fine to pick either one but that if he does go to UW that he knows I will never root for Badger basketball even while he is there.
my Dad was head of Perio at MU back in the day. F the Badger
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 07:02:41 PM
You're friends with Jack Reacher?

Ziggy, what can I say?  I like to have large friends around me that can take out douchebags in seconds if the need arises.  :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 07:04:24 PM
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(I'm glad it's a giant sized image!)

This appeara tp be the correct answer and what I had that day before I was so rudely interrupted.  My wedge had ranch but with a nice amount of blue cheese crumbles.  Although grape and cherry tomatoes are highway robbery and there are better options.  :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 21, 2022, 07:05:11 PM
Smithy will probably chime in with some ignorant, inappropriate analysis of his mental health, aina?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 07:23:59 PM
I too went to UW-Madison for grad school after finishing my undergraduate yeas at Marquette. This was in the early 1990's. I was enjoying the Union Terrace on a nice spring day, having a brat and some beers, when the conversation at the table suddenly started turning to Marquette. One guy at the table did not realize I had gone there and started to bitch about the state legislature given the Marquette Dental School some funding in the state education budget. He proceeded to complain about a private university getting state funds. I asked him what public dental schools exist in the state of Wisconsin and of course he didn't know. I told him that Marquette had the only dental school and that anyone can come in and get free dental services as part of the condition for the funding. He then proceed to complain that even so, the state shouldn't be giving any money to a school full of rich kids. Now, this may have changed over the years, but at the time Marquette only had about the 8th or 9th highest per capita family income among student families among Wisconsin colleges. The school with the highest per-capita family income at the time? UW-Madison.
I again proceeded to tell this guy he had absolutely no idea what he was talking about and that he might want to beef up on some facts rather than stupid stereotypes.

I have a son who is now considering both Marquette and UW-Madison for college. I have told him that he is fine to pick either one but that if he does go to UW that he knows I will never root for Badger basketball even while he is there.

Very interesting story Norm.  Ty.  I have great friends in Madison and am grateful for my professors there.  But I will tell you I heard quite a bit of nonsensical elitism and vitriol towards Marquette while I was there.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU24 on March 21, 2022, 07:26:36 PM
The fact that so many Badgers fans sitting near me at the games on Friday were so thrilled about watching that disgrace of a game just solidified my dislike of the program. Here were thousands of people getting excited for making a comeback vs Colgate University...when they should have blown the doors off of that team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 21, 2022, 07:29:17 PM
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(I'm glad it's a giant sized image!)

Looks normal on phone.  No bacon. Lettuce looks wilted. Not a Golden Sweet Cherry tomato (looks like Costco). No Blu Cheese chunks so processed dressing. I give it a 2. Wojoesque.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 07:38:26 PM
Looks normal on phone.  No bacon. Lettuce looks wilted. Not a Golden Sweet Cherry tomato (looks like Costco). No Blu Cheese chunks so processed dressing. I give it a 2. Wojoesque.

Fair points.  I missed the no bacon.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Afroman on March 21, 2022, 08:02:03 PM
As a Wisconsinite and MU alum, I often wonder how much hate there actually is between the two schools. Would be interesting to know if it is just the MU alums that hate UW or if it goes both ways between alumna. When I was a kid I liked them both but favored MU because UW sucked in the 80s and early 90s. Now I’m kind of apathetic to UW but don’t feel extreme hate towards them. Maybe the Wisconsinite in me? There is a tweet out there by local sports radio host calling it little bro syndrome for MU fans that hate UW. Is this true or does the hate go both ways? Is this hate from MU alumni that are Wisconsin residents or non? I don’t feel like it’s hate from non-alumna as I have friends that may favor one but support both. Overall just pondering this as a curiosity as this rivalry doesn’t seem as deep as other inner state rivalries. Maybe because we don’t have football which would deepen that rivalry. Maybe worth a poll. Interested in thoughts on this one.

Wisconsin is the only Division I football team in the state.
UW fans hate that they aren't the only Division I basketball team in the state.
They hate even more when they lose to Marquette.
They hate when Marquette gets any kind of attention.
But their fans call Marquette "little brother."
It's cute.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 21, 2022, 08:11:42 PM
I had an online Oates occurrence when he took a shot at Iowa for losing to Villanova in the 2016 NCAA Tournament saying it was a bad look to lose to a Jay Wright coached team in March.  He was pretty quiet after the national title game

What a complete fkbag.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 22, 2022, 07:17:49 AM
You're friends with Jack Reacher?

OMG!  Exactly what I was thinking when I read his post.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Eye on March 22, 2022, 08:58:15 AM
As I understood it, coming out of high school, Johnny was more the basketball star and Jordan was the football star. I assume Paul Chryst could find room on the football team for Jordan if that would keep everyone happy.

As a guy who calls games on radio in their HS conference, Johnny was a QB and the better football player. Jordan was a WR. Neither played on defense.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Jockey on March 23, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
I don't understand the obsession with UW. Mostly sounds like an inferiority complex.

I grew up in Wisconsin and have been a Marquette fan since I was a little kid. The only time I ever had any interest in Wisconsin was when a couple guys I knew and had played against went there. Really, though, the interest was in the guys I knew - not the team. I just never cared if they won or lost.

It is so nuts here that one poster went on about the reason he hates UW is because of a..., sportswriter? We have poster after poster trash talking UW while others here post that they hate UW fan for, you guessed it, trash talking.

Get over it, guys. I don't know what is worse - the UW obsession by Marquette fans or the vitriol towards Marquette after they lost in the tourney.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 23, 2022, 02:29:38 PM
You clearly don't work in an office crawling with asshat badger fans.  They never shut up.  They keep the rivalry alive even when we try to mind our own business.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Jockey on March 23, 2022, 02:38:41 PM
You clearly don't work in an office crawling with asshat badger fans.  They never shut up.  They keep the rivalry alive even when we try to mind our own business.

Don't get triggered so easily. Live with the knowledge that you have better taste than they do. And when we are the better team in a year or two, let the MU memorabilia in your office do the talking for you.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: 🏀 on March 23, 2022, 02:40:47 PM
You clearly don't work in an office crawling with asshat badger fans.  They never shut up.  They keep the rivalry alive even when we try to mind our own business.

Just tell them Whitewater isn't eligible for the tournament.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 23, 2022, 02:49:01 PM
Don't get triggered so easily. Live with the knowledge that you have better taste than they do. And when we are the better team in a year or two, let the MU memorabilia in your office do the talking for you.

Yeah, I'm not easily triggered.  But they are relentless.  You know, like rodents tend to be.  And so arrogant.

And most of them are actually from the UW-Madison extension, not the UW-boonies.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: cheebs09 on March 23, 2022, 03:05:23 PM
I think it’s beyond sports too. I remember making my college decision. As someone who had decent grades and lived in Wisconsin the expectation was you go to UW. Even teachers asking “Well, why wouldn’t you go to Madison?” Almost making you justify your decision.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: JWags85 on March 23, 2022, 03:11:36 PM
I think it’s beyond sports too. I remember making my college decision. As someone who had decent grades and lived in Wisconsin the expectation was you go to UW. Even teachers asking “Well, why wouldn’t you go to Madison?” Almost making you justify your decision.

I had a friend I ran CC with decide against going to Madison.  I remember specifically the parent of a mutual friend AND a student advisor make a comment like "Madison is very competitive, most can't get in" with the assumption that clearly that was the reason...he chose to go to Michigan cause they offered more money than Wash U, clearly didn't have what it takes  ::)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Viper on March 23, 2022, 03:24:38 PM
Don't get triggered so easily. Live with the knowledge that you have better taste than they do. And when we are the better team in a year or two, let the MU memorabilia in your office do the talking for you.
that endless highlight video loop in the office lobby during their Finals appearance has left an ugly mark, bro. Haunts me to this day. The insufferable Badger fan. Ugh
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Jockey on March 23, 2022, 03:33:14 PM
Yeah, I'm not easily triggered.  But they are relentless.  You know, like rodents tend to be.  And so arrogant.

And most of them are actually from the UW-Madison extension, not the UW-boonies.

Understand.

But fans everywhere are relentless. Go down to SEC country during football season for a taste. But, yeah - UW fans are as bad as any.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 23, 2022, 03:40:27 PM
I think it’s beyond sports too. I remember making my college decision. As someone who had decent grades and lived in Wisconsin the expectation was you go to UW. Even teachers asking “Well, why wouldn’t you go to Madison?” Almost making you justify your decision.

A tech school grad once asked me "Why did you go to Marquette?  Twice the price for half the education (of Wisconsin)!"

He was being dead serious.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: wadesworld on March 23, 2022, 03:52:49 PM
I think it’s beyond sports too. I remember making my college decision. As someone who had decent grades and lived in Wisconsin the expectation was you go to UW. Even teachers asking “Well, why wouldn’t you go to Madison?” Almost making you justify your decision.

Exactly.  If you live in Wisconsin and don't have ties to Marquette, everyone is stunned and offended if you don't live and die by Badger football (especially) and basketball.  It's absurd.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 23, 2022, 04:43:48 PM
Understand.

But fans everywhere are relentless. Go down to SEC country during football season for a taste. But, yeah - UW fans are as bad as any.

I assume there are levels of asshatness  Jockey among fan bases.  As others have pointed out this goes well beyond the sports teams, certainly exists at a number of schools, and permeates many campuses.

With regards to Wisconsin it would be interesting to compare some of the top State schools and their vibe like Virginia, UCLA, UNC, California, Mich etc.  It's possible success in sports has exacerbated for some their douchebaggery and hubris. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 23, 2022, 06:06:28 PM
I assume there are levels of asshatness  Jockey among fan bases.  As others have pointed out this goes well beyond the sports teams, certainly exists at a number of schools, and permeates many campuses.

With regards to Wisconsin it would be interesting to compare some of the top State schools and their vibe like Virginia, UCLA, UNC, California, Mich etc.  It's possible success in sports has exacerbated for some their douchebaggery and hubris.

I fully believe that Wisconsin is no different than Alabama, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc. Mostly rural without much going on except the state football/basketball team. I've not seen university obsession in places like the Northeast, Illinois, California, Colorado or Texas.  Crazy fandom, especially by non-alums, seems typical in states like Wisconsin, Nebraska, etc.

I'm not making a value judgment about it, just the way it is.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: JWags85 on March 23, 2022, 06:20:28 PM
I fully believe that Wisconsin is no different than Alabama, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc. Mostly rural without much going on except the state football/basketball team. I've not seen university obsession in places like the Northeast, Illinois, California, Colorado or Texas.  Crazy fandom, especially by non-alums, seems typical in states like Wisconsin, Nebraska, etc.

I'm not making a value judgment about it, just the way it is.

I went to college in Ohio.  I saw the Buckeye fervor first hand.  Knew tons of MAC alumni and current students who would root against their own school if they played OSU in football or basketball or would skip games to prep for an OSU broadcast.  Not to mention the legions of OSU fans with jerseys from Target or the like.  Walmart Wolverines are much the same in Michigan I’m sure.  And definitely in SEC country.

The main difference between them and Wisconsin that I’ve experienced is that non-alumni Wisconsin fans have this bizarre infatuation with how INCREDIBLE UW is as an institution.  The Ohio State fans couldn’t care less about the academics as long as Day and the Boys win on Saturday, but it always comes up in Wisconsin arguments whether it be recruiting, or digs at Marquette or other B10 institutions
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 23, 2022, 06:43:30 PM
I went to college in Ohio.  I saw the Buckeye fervor first hand.  Knew tons of MAC alumni and current students who would root against their own school if they played OSU in football or basketball or would skip games to prep for an OSU broadcast.  Not to mention the legions of OSU fans with jerseys from Target or the like.  Walmart Wolverines are much the same in Michigan I’m sure.  And definitely in SEC country.

The main difference between them and Wisconsin that I’ve experienced is that non-alumni Wisconsin fans have this bizarre infatuation with how INCREDIBLE UW is as an institution.  The Ohio State fans couldn’t care less about the academics as long as Day and the Boys win on Saturday, but it always comes up in Wisconsin arguments whether it be recruiting, or digs at Marquette or other B10 institutions

Very interesting observation JWags and I would agree with you.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 23, 2022, 07:36:25 PM
I went to college in Ohio.  I saw the Buckeye fervor first hand.  Knew tons of MAC alumni and current students who would root against their own school if they played OSU in football or basketball or would skip games to prep for an OSU broadcast.  Not to mention the legions of OSU fans with jerseys from Target or the like.  Walmart Wolverines are much the same in Michigan I’m sure.  And definitely in SEC country.

The main difference between them and Wisconsin that I’ve experienced is that non-alumni Wisconsin fans have this bizarre infatuation with how INCREDIBLE UW is as an institution.  The Ohio State fans couldn’t care less about the academics as long as Day and the Boys win on Saturday, but it always comes up in Wisconsin arguments whether it be recruiting, or digs at Marquette or other B10 institutions

That’s the great thing about the Ivy League.  If it wasn’t for that league, a lot of people rejected by Madison would have to go to Minnesota or Iowa
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Scoop Snoop on March 23, 2022, 07:54:49 PM
I fully believe that Wisconsin is no different than Alabama, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc. Mostly rural without much going on except the state football/basketball team. I've not seen university obsession in places like the Northeast, Illinois, California, Colorado or Texas.  Crazy fandom, especially by non-alums, seems typical in states like Wisconsin, Nebraska, etc.

I'm not making a value judgment about it, just the way it is.

I'm mostly in agreement with you, but it varies within areas of a state and from one school to another within a state. For example, residents in a metro area like Kansas City have a pro FB team they are devoted to. My guess is that college basketball is of limited interest to them, but maybe not.

Northern Virginia has... whatever the team's name is now... for pro football and the DC area and its residents live in their own, very private little world. They really do not care about Virginia or Maryland much outside the beltway. As you go west in Virginia, Virginia Tech fans are everywhere. In Richmond, UVA alums refer to their school simply as "the" university. Outside of Charlottesville and Richmond, I doubt that many people cared about UVA's natty. Just a guess, but I suspect the Virginia narrative I just presented could be rescripted for many other states.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 23, 2022, 08:06:43 PM
That’s the great thing about the Ivy League.  If it wasn’t for that league, a lot of people rejected by Madison would have to go to Minnesota or Iowa

Lol.  I think this is part of the problem.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 24, 2022, 06:20:40 AM
I went to college in Ohio.  I saw the Buckeye fervor first hand.  Knew tons of MAC alumni and current students who would root against their own school if they played OSU in football or basketball or would skip games to prep for an OSU broadcast.  Not to mention the legions of OSU fans with jerseys from Target or the like.  Walmart Wolverines are much the same in Michigan I’m sure.  And definitely in SEC country.

The main difference between them and Wisconsin that I’ve experienced is that non-alumni Wisconsin fans have this bizarre infatuation with how INCREDIBLE UW is as an institution.  The Ohio State fans couldn’t care less about the academics as long as Day and the Boys win on Saturday, but it always comes up in Wisconsin arguments whether it be recruiting, or digs at Marquette or other B10 institutions

Culture.  UW fans are taught to believe that UW is the best school in the midwest from a very young age.  It is, by all metrics, a great school to attend, but as with many things, culture plays a huge factor.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2022, 07:25:44 AM
Culture.  UW fans are taught to believe that UW is the best school in the midwest from a very young age.  It is, by all metrics, a great school to attend, but as with many things, culture plays a huge factor.

It’s the same culture that proudly puts foam cheese on their heads and thinks 7 DUI’s is something to be proud of
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 24, 2022, 07:26:24 AM
It’s the same culture that proudly puts foam cheese on their heads and thinks 7 DUI’s is something to be proud of

Every state has their own problems.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 24, 2022, 07:39:52 AM
Every state has their own problems.

That was a shot at Badgers fans
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: 1SE on March 24, 2022, 08:11:01 AM
That was a shot at Badgers fans

From an academic standpoint, UW is probably the 3rd best school in the BIG14 after UMich and NW. But it's a much bigger gap between them and those two than it is between them and the others on their tier (like OSU, ILL, UMN).
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: PointWarrior on March 24, 2022, 08:29:08 AM
My favorite is my UW-directional school friends consider themselves as “graduating  from Wisconsin”. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: buckchuckler on March 24, 2022, 08:37:08 AM
From an academic standpoint, UW is probably the 3rd best school in the BIG14 after UMich and NW. But it's a much bigger gap between them and those two than it is between them and the others on their tier (like OSU, ILL, UMN).

A real quick google search shows UW number 42 in the US news rankings, and Illinois 47.  That seems pretty close.  Northwestern was 9.  Not so close. 

Northwestern is pretty elite academically.  Wisconsin isn't in the same category. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 24, 2022, 08:38:27 AM
From an academic standpoint, UW is probably the 3rd best school in the BIG14 after UMich and NW. But it's a much bigger gap between them and those two than it is between them and the others on their tier (like OSU, ILL, UMN).

It's a much more nuanced discussion but I would say Illinois is very comparable to Wisconsin.  Also, as a whole, the gap between Northwestern and  the presumed 2, 3, 4, schools is probably greater than the gap between 2-4 and everyone else.  And this has very little to do with the "rankings".
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 24, 2022, 08:42:42 AM
Scoop needs a staff psychologist.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: buckchuckler on March 24, 2022, 08:44:44 AM
It's a much more nuanced discussion but I would say Illinois is very comparable to Wisconsin.  Also, as a whole, the gap between Northwestern and  the presumed 2, 3, 4, schools is probably greater than the gap between 2-4 and everyone else.  And this has very little to do with the "rankings".

Hahaha, yeah, I agree, I just wanted something more than "Wisconsin is closer to Northwestern than Illinois???? Are you serious????"
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 24, 2022, 08:47:39 AM
A real quick google search shows UW number 42 in the US news rankings, and Illinois 47.  That seems pretty close.  Northwestern was 9.  Not so close. 

Northwestern is pretty elite academically.  Wisconsin isn't in the same category. 


Sure. But they are completely different types of schools so of course they are ranked differently.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 24, 2022, 08:54:47 AM

Sure. But they are completely different types of schools so of course they are ranked differently.

100% correct but I just think Buck was comparing the rankings within the B14 and they're similar minus NW.  A pianist or violinist at the Curtis School of Music is at a better school than Harvard, Princeton, and MIT combined for their skillset.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 24, 2022, 08:56:47 AM
100% correct but I just think Buck was comparing the rankings within the B14 and they're similar minus NW.  A pianist or violinist at the Curtis School of Music is at a better school than Harvard, Princeton, and MIT combined for their skillset.

Maybe. Depends on the student.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 24, 2022, 09:03:50 AM
Maybe. Depends on the student.

It presumably could  turn out worse.   For example, if they don't go into the field of music or have a psychological breakdown.  However, since they go there specifically to become classical and trained musicians, and to work  in those fields, the students aren't there for other academic endeavors.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: panda on March 24, 2022, 09:11:38 AM
Scoop needs a staff psychologist.

Lol yep - this thread is pathetic.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: willie warrior on March 26, 2022, 06:40:02 AM
It’s the same culture that proudly puts foam cheese on their heads and thinks 7 DUI’s is something to be proud of
That is because 7 has always been considered a lucky number
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 26, 2022, 07:21:44 AM
I don't understand the obsession with UW. Mostly sounds like an inferiority complex.

I grew up in Wisconsin and have been a Marquette fan since I was a little kid. The only time I ever had any interest in Wisconsin was when a couple guys I knew and had played against went there. Really, though, the interest was in the guys I knew - not the team. I just never cared if they won or lost.

It is so nuts here that one poster went on about the reason he hates UW is because of a..., sportswriter? We have poster after poster trash talking UW while others here post that they hate UW fan for, you guessed it, trash talking.

Get over it, guys. I don't know what is worse - the UW obsession by Marquette fans or the vitriol towards Marquette after they lost in the tourney.

Well, living a thousand miles away my perspective is somewhat different. Fans will be fans. When MU would play Rutgers or Seton Hall I would get to talk to many alums many who have spouses or they themselves who attended both MU and UW as grads or undergrads. They cheer for MU basketball and UW football. I think the animus toward UW for many here is that over the last 20 years they have been more consistently successful than MU when it comes to basketball and if you look at it objectively there are many academic disciplines where MU does not have the financial resources to compete equally with a large state funded institution like UW.

Why go to MU when you can go to UW for less is a legitimate question. Why go to UW when you can go to an in state community college for 2 years than go to UW for your BS/BA and save money is also a legitimate question.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: dgies9156 on March 26, 2022, 07:22:09 AM
Understand.

But fans everywhere are relentless. Go down to SEC country during football season for a taste. But, yeah - UW fans are as bad as any.

Grew up in Tennessee and the devotion to the Vols knows no bounds. Vol football in the fall basically shuts the state down — even when the Vols are bad. When Uncle Phil brought home a natty, the state was giddy beyond giddy.

In the past, nobody ever claimed Tennessee was the Harvard of the Hills. It’s become a much better school in recent years but make no mistake, the state’s loyalty is to football, not the institution.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Viper on March 26, 2022, 08:10:35 AM
Well, living a thousand miles away my perspective is somewhat different. Fans will be fans. When MU would play Rutgers or Seton Hall I would get to talk to many alums many who have spouses or they themselves who attended both MU and UW as grads or undergrads. They cheer for MU basketball and UW football. I think the animus toward UW for many here is that over the last 20 years they have been more consistently successful than MU when it comes to basketball and if you look at it objectively there are many academic disciplines where MU does not have the financial resources to compete equally with a large state funded institution like UW.

Why go to MU when you can go to UW for less is a legitimate question. Why go to UW when you can go to an in state community college for 2 years than go to UW for your BS/BA and save money is also a legitimate question.
I don’t necessarily disagree. However, for some perspective, I have a future bro-in-law UW grad texting me daily the score of the UW/MU game, or the score of the UNC/MU game. These texts are random…6am, 3pm, midnight, doesn’t matter.  This will continue until next December’s UW/MU game. Oh, since we lost in Madison, tics this year are on me. Feeding the beast. Ugh
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: real chili 83 on March 26, 2022, 08:24:17 AM
There’s a level of smugness to many UW fans that is not flattering.

My BIL was prez of the UW alum association. I was talking to his wife back when Ellenson committed to MU.  She responded with “he must have not had the grades to get an offer from Wisconsin”. She was dead serious. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 26, 2022, 08:28:30 AM
There’s a level of smugness to many UW fans that is not flattering.

My BIL was prez of the UW alum association. I was talking to his wife back when Ellenson committed to MU.  She responded with “he must have not had the grades to get an offer from Wisconsin”. She was dead serious.

A lot of the Wisconsin is perpetuated by the media that covers them.  The academic hurdles for “certain” athletes.  The impeccable “culture” of doing things “the right way”.  You’ll also see the smugness from Potrykus and Oates when talking about other programs, coaches or players.  Potrykus dumped on Grayson Allen and Adam Woodbury from Iowa whenever he could but put Davison on the white stallion racing down the beach and tsk, tsk’d anyone who criticized him or how Gard handled discipline.  When stuff like this gets repeated enough, the morons in the fan base don’t know any better
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: real chili 83 on March 26, 2022, 09:02:20 AM
A lot of the Wisconsin is perpetuated by the media that covers them.  The academic hurdles for “certain” athletes.  The impeccable “culture” of doing things “the right way”.  You’ll also see the smugness from Potrykus and Oates when talking about other programs, coaches or players.  Potrykus dumped on Grayson Allen and Adam Woodbury from Iowa whenever he could but put Davison on the white stallion racing down the beach and tsk, tsk’d anyone who criticized him or how Gard handled discipline.  When stuff like this gets repeated enough, the morons in the fan base don’t know any better

You’re absolutely right. The Media covering Madison go through knee pads like no one’s business. The hypocrisy rivals South Bend. 

Love how they tried to co-opt Shaka in an article the week of the Euwe Dubyah game this  past season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 10:11:53 AM
There’s a level of smugness to many UW fans that is not flattering.

My BIL was prez of the UW alum association. I was talking to his wife back when Ellenson committed to MU.  She responded with “he must have not had the grades to get an offer from Wisconsin”. She was dead serious.

You hear this kind of stuff all the time.  That's why I got so upset when DJO was disparaged.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: cheebs09 on March 26, 2022, 10:37:35 AM
You hear this kind of stuff all the time.  That's why I got so upset when DJO was disparaged.

Exactly. Bill Michaels saying DJO put a guy in the hospital and the video comes out that they are pretty calmly leaving the club.

But no mention of a recruit getting their stomach pumped on a UW recruiting visit.

Then you have the random people saying between the Apt 720 and JUCO stigma that was perpetuated that MU had a bunch of bad characters on the team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 11:01:40 AM
Exactly. Bill Michaels saying DJO put a guy in the hospital and the video comes out that they are pretty calmly leaving the club.

But no mention of a recruit getting their stomach pumped on a UW recruiting visit.

Then you have the random people saying between the Apt 720 and JUCO stigma that was perpetuated that MU had a bunch of bad characters on the team.

It's pretty ubiquitous in Dane County Cheebs.  I like to wear Marquette gear.  I have about 20 or so sweatshirts, fleeces, hoodies, golf and t-shirts, etc.  When I would go to bars to watch hoops I would get into a number of very interesting conversations with Badger fans.  About half of then would just randomly say things clearly not knowing what in the H they were talking about.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2022, 11:49:32 AM
You’re absolutely right. The Media covering Madison go through knee pads like no one’s business. The hypocrisy rivals South Bend. 

Love how they tried to co-opt Shaka in an article the week of the Euwe Dubyah game this  past season.

Ehhhhhhhhhh, I'm going to disagree.  The media here in Madison does have a UW bias, but it isn't remotely close to the flat out propaganda that you'd witness in South Bend, or most SEC schools.
It's pretty ubiquitous in Dane County Cheebs.  I like to wear Marquette gear.  I have about 20 or so sweatshirts, fleeces, hoodies, golf and t-shirts, etc.  When I would go to bars to watch hoops I would get into a number of very interesting conversations with Badger fans.  About half of then would just randomly say things clearly not knowing what in the H they were talking about.

I have literally never had a negative encounter unless I sought it out.  There is a section of Marquette fans that are perpetually aggrieved that we get very little respect in our home state, and I get that.  But I've seen jag offs from both fan bases.  UW just has a lot more fans (for obvious reasons) so we will always have a chip on our shoulder.  Which I'm fine with.  Builds character.

Basically, I live in the hornet's nest, refuse to wear UW stuff, and proudly wear my MU gear... And I've never had a bad experience.  I've had people make comments, but in the age of phones it is easy to disprove the people who make things up.  When they bring up the 'UW grades' BS, I remind them that Ron Dayne could barely read, and that UW has had near the top most NCAA infractions of any school in the NCAA.  And that they'd have gladly taken any of the players that chose another school, and defended them all the same.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on March 26, 2022, 11:52:42 AM
Since the 2017-18 season, Madison has won 2 NCAA tournament games. They've also been stomped by a 12-seed (Oregon in 2019, the same year we got stomped by Morant). Despite having an experienced team that included a top-10 draft pick, they faded at the end of this season, eventually losing to an 11-seed while scoring 49 points. They've gone 2-3 vs. Marquette these last 5 years. And a couple years before that, their all-time winningest coach was forced out in a sex scandal.

Has Madison been better than Marquette these last 5 years? Sure, and it pisses me off. But they aren't the program I long for Marquette to be. There are many, many, many others I look to when I say, "Damn, I wish our program could be that."
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 11:56:47 AM
Ehhhhhhhhhh, I'm going to disagree.  The media here in Madison does have a UW bias, but it isn't remotely close to the flat out propaganda that you'd witness in South Bend, or most SEC schools.
I have literally never had a negative encounter unless I sought it out.  There is a section of Marquette fans that are perpetually aggrieved that we get very little respect in our home state, and I get that.  But I've seen jag offs from both fan bases.  UW just has a lot more fans (for obvious reasons) so we will always have a chip on our shoulder.  Which I'm fine with.  Builds character.

Basically, I live in the hornet's nest, refuse to wear UW stuff, and proudly wear my MU gear... And I've never had a bad experience.  I've had people make comments, but in the age of phones it is easy to disprove the people who make things up.  When they bring up the 'UW grades' BS, I remind them that Ron Dayne could barely read, and that UW has had near the top most NCAA infractions of any school in the NCAA.  And that they'd have gladly taken any of the players that chose another school, and defended them all the same.

I had a totally different experience but perhaps you didn't have extensive conversations with people around the UW campus.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2022, 12:04:05 PM
I had a totally different experience but perhaps you didn't have extensive conversations with people around the UW campus.

You're much more emotional than I am.  Probably something to do with it.  As I've mentioned, I live here, and talk to UW fans every single day.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 26, 2022, 12:08:47 PM
Ehhhhhhhhhh, I'm going to disagree.  The media here in Madison does have a UW bias, but it isn't remotely close to the flat out propaganda that you'd witness in South Bend, or most SEC schools.

Look anyone who thinks they will find honest reporting in places like Madison or South Bend, etc. has their head in the sand. UW is the engine (fueled by tax dollars) that runs Madison. Why bite the hand that feeds you? I don't care about UW-Madison any more than I care about Mississippi State or Indiana State, but if I lived there I would kiss the university's ass regardless if I owned a bar, insurance company or worked for the media. Even as a die hard MU fan, I'd become a Badger fan in a second to make money.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 26, 2022, 04:41:28 PM
Ehhhhhhhhhh, I'm going to disagree.  The media here in Madison does have a UW bias, but it isn't remotely close to the flat out propaganda that you'd witness in South Bend, or most SEC schools.
I have literally never had a negative encounter unless I sought it out.  There is a section of Marquette fans that are perpetually aggrieved that we get very little respect in our home state, and I get that.  But I've seen jag offs from both fan bases.  UW just has a lot more fans (for obvious reasons) so we will always have a chip on our shoulder.  Which I'm fine with.  Builds character.

Basically, I live in the hornet's nest, refuse to wear UW stuff, and proudly wear my MU gear... And I've never had a bad experience.  I've had people make comments, but in the age of phones it is easy to disprove the people who make things up.  When they bring up the 'UW grades' BS, I remind them that Ron Dayne could barely read, and that UW has had near the top most NCAA infractions of any school in the NCAA.  And that they'd have gladly taken any of the players that chose another school, and defended them all the same.

I worked for a small business (about 200 employees) which was head quartered in Waltham, Mass; a Boston suburb. One time for a training session ( casual dress ) I walked in with all my Yankee gear. If looks could kill I would be dead.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 04:46:19 PM
You're much more emotional than I am.  Probably something to do with it.  As I've mentioned, I live here, and talk to UW fans every single day.

I can be emotional but I believe my MU gear triggered a lot of them. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 26, 2022, 05:36:24 PM
I can be emotional but I believe my MU gear triggered a lot of them.

I guess that is a possibility.  I wore an MU mask for the entire pandemic, and have around the same number of MU shirts etc as you do.

I never get bothered.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MuggsyB on March 26, 2022, 05:44:48 PM
I guess that is a possibility.  I wore an MU mask for the entire pandemic, and have around the same number of MU shirts etc as you do.

I never get bothered.

I may instigate stuff....I'll admit I can be confrontational if something bothers me.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Viper on March 26, 2022, 07:06:12 PM
I may instigate stuff....I'll admit I can be confrontational if something bothers me.
a shot of jack, maybe view a DWade highlight reel or Christie Brinkley SI archive. A cure-all for anything bothering you.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 26, 2022, 08:42:49 PM
I may instigate stuff....I'll admit I can be confrontational if something bothers me.

Plus, you have Jack Reacher with you.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Tha Hound on March 27, 2022, 10:11:57 AM
If you have a Twitter account you would be well aware that Wisconsin scumbags tweet just as much if not more vitriol about MU than we do them.

Any attempt to convince otherwise is just one more reason to never trust that anyone from that fan base
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2022, 10:13:00 AM
If you have a Twitter account you would be well aware that Wisconsin scumbags tweet just as much if not more vitriol about MU than we do them.

Any attempt to convince otherwise is just one more reason to never trust that anyone from that fan base

I don't disagree.  And as I mentioned earlier, there are many more of them than there are of us.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Boone on March 27, 2022, 10:38:35 AM
I'm with Norm. Son attends Madison. Next year our daughter, a high school senior, will join him there. Fortunately, neither like/care about UW hoops, but even if they did they know that me rooting for that program will always be a bridge too far.   
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on April 01, 2022, 09:12:22 AM
https://uwbadgers.com/news/2022/3/31/mens-basketball-davison-to-return-to-wisconsin-for-sixth-season.aspx
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Pakuni on April 01, 2022, 09:21:05 AM
https://uwbadgers.com/news/2022/3/31/mens-basketball-davison-to-return-to-wisconsin-for-sixth-season.aspx

What's the date?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: lawdog77 on April 01, 2022, 09:42:29 AM
Watched a little of the three point contest. Davison's first rack included two air balls. That made me smile.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 01, 2022, 09:49:22 AM
https://uwbadgers.com/news/2022/3/31/mens-basketball-davison-to-return-to-wisconsin-for-sixth-season.aspx

I did not expect UW to have a sense of humor like that, I'll give them that one.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on April 01, 2022, 10:06:39 AM
I did not expect UW to have a sense of humor like that, I'll give them that one.
Me as well. Didn’t tjink they had it in them.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2022, 10:40:09 AM
Too bad it's not a real story. It would have been fun to see Floppy drop to 2-4 vs. MU. Maybe he could have choked away one more game, as he did 2 others in the series.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 01, 2022, 10:50:25 AM
My favorite annoying Wisconsin fan story doesn’t even have to do with Marquette.

Was up at Camp Randall for a Northwestern game, Northwestern ended up beating them but the fans were angry they started throwing snow balls at their own cheerleaders.

Also got pelted in back of the the head by a little kid, (I was wearing northwestern stuff) as I turned around to bitch to his parents (Not him, I mean he was literally probably just 10 years old) his parents were laughing at it. They teach them young out there.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2022, 10:55:06 AM
My favorite annoying Wisconsin fan story doesn’t even have to do with Marquette.

Was up at Camp Randall for a Northwestern game, Northwestern ended up beating them but the fans were angry they started throwing snow balls at their own cheerleaders.

Also got pelted in back of the the head by a little kid, (I was wearing northwestern stuff) as I turned around to bitch to his parents (Not him, I mean he was literally probably just 10 years old) his parents were laughing at it. They teach them young out there.

It’s all part of their L’il Red Dirtbag program.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 01, 2022, 11:42:29 AM
My favorite annoying Wisconsin fan story doesn’t even have to do with Marquette.

Was up at Camp Randall for a Northwestern game, Northwestern ended up beating them but the fans were angry they started throwing snow balls at their own cheerleaders.

Also got pelted in back of the the head by a little kid, (I was wearing northwestern stuff) as I turned around to bitch to his parents (Not him, I mean he was literally probably just 10 years old) his parents were laughing at it. They teach them young out there.

Oh, no snowballs!
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on April 01, 2022, 11:56:32 AM
Saw this resurface on Twitter a few weeks ago or so, but they chanted 'cyclops' at Chris Otule years back at Wisconsin.

I remember hearing that and my blood boiled.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 01, 2022, 11:57:38 AM
Saw this resurface on Twitter a few weeks ago or so, but they chanted 'cyclops' at Chris Otule years back at Wisconsin.

I remember hearing that and my blood boiled.

Surely, no Marquette student has ever said a mean thing ever.  Surely.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 01, 2022, 12:00:04 PM
One of the most embarrassing chants I've heard at a Marquette game is "Public School!!!" directed towards UW fans.

As if it was somehow insulting to them that they went to a public school that is higher ranked than Marquette.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Viper on April 01, 2022, 12:53:23 PM
One of the most embarrassing chants I've heard at a Marquette game is "Public School!!!" directed towards UW fans.

As if it was somehow insulting to them that they went to a public school that is higher ranked than Marquette.
they exist due to the people, true. But they hate hearing about it, trust me. Hacks off RED?, go for it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on April 01, 2022, 01:00:34 PM
One of the most embarrassing chants I've heard at a Marquette game is "Public School!!!" directed towards UW fans.

As if it was somehow insulting to them that they went to a public school that is higher ranked than Marquette.
Ya sound just like a vadger fan
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 01, 2022, 06:06:06 PM
Ya sound just like a vadger fan

I'm not one.  But I still maintain the ability to recognize stupid.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 01, 2022, 08:33:35 PM
One of the most embarrassing chants I've heard at a Marquette game is "Public School!!!" directed towards UW fans.

As if it was somehow insulting to them that they went to a public school that is higher ranked than Marquette.

  why is that "embarrassing"?  you may not have found it amusing, but embarrassing?  passing around a blow-up doll may be embarrassing, but this?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on April 01, 2022, 09:32:40 PM
I'm not one.  But I still maintain the ability to recognize stupid.
Defending at every turn.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Balrogs on April 02, 2022, 07:44:07 AM
  why is that "embarrassing"?  you may not have found it amusing, but embarrassing?  passing around a blow-up doll may be embarrassing, but this?

Because it is an elitist chant that is stupid.  Just because you go to a private school doesn't mean you're better than them.  Given my experience (nearly a fight at a UW fb game, broken windshield, denying anything that "detracts" (like Bo Ryan massage therapist, poor graduation rates), rodents are one of the worst behaved fan bases around and it makes me cringe when we act like them.  If you think you're better than them, then be better.  I had my rodent PhD BIL, nearly yelling at me because I said Joe Krabbenhoft should have been punished in the recent Michigan dust up as it was clear he escalated.  Even his wife and daughter thought he embarrassed himself.  I paid my own way through Marquette twice as my parents didn't have money so maybe I especially think this chant is stupid.  Have some self respect and don't act like a badger fan (aka a douche)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Viper on April 02, 2022, 08:20:06 AM
Because it is an elitist chant that is stupid.  Just because you go to a private school doesn't mean you're better than them.  Given my experience (nearly a fight at a UW fb game, broken windshield, denying anything that "detracts" (like Bo Ryan massage therapist, poor graduation rates), rodents are one of the worst behaved fan bases around and it makes me cringe when we act like them.  If you think you're better than them, then be better.  I had my rodent PhD BIL, nearly yelling at me because I said Joe Krabbenhoft should have been punished in the recent Michigan dust up as it was clear he escalated.  Even his wife and daughter thought he embarrassed himself.  I paid my own way through Marquette twice as my parents didn't have money so maybe I especially think this chant is stupid.  Have some self respect and don't act like a badger fan (aka a douche)
dang dude. And what’s up with the beavers?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 02, 2022, 08:23:11 AM
Making fun of people who have college degrees from a public university is dumb.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Balrogs on April 02, 2022, 10:16:35 AM
dang dude. And what’s up with the beavers?

That's an old Buzz Williams quote that apparently has some special characters that don't display correctly.  I hardly ever post (just lurk and read) and should replace it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Sir Lawrence on April 02, 2022, 11:46:22 AM
Because it is an elitist chant that is stupid.  Just because you go to a private school doesn't mean you're better than them.  Given my experience (nearly a fight at a UW fb game, broken windshield, denying anything that "detracts" (like Bo Ryan massage therapist, poor graduation rates), rodents are one of the worst behaved fan bases around and it makes me cringe when we act like them.  If you think you're better than them, then be better.  I had my rodent PhD BIL, nearly yelling at me because I said Joe Krabbenhoft should have been punished in the recent Michigan dust up as it was clear he escalated.  Even his wife and daughter thought he embarrassed himself.  I paid my own way through Marquette twice as my parents didn't have money so maybe I especially think this chant is stupid.  Have some self respect and don't act like a badger fan (aka a douche)

Bravo!  Well said. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 02, 2022, 02:08:42 PM
Because it is an elitist chant that is stupid.  Just because you go to a private school doesn't mean you're better than them.  Given my experience (nearly a fight at a UW fb game, broken windshield, denying anything that "detracts" (like Bo Ryan massage therapist, poor graduation rates), rodents are one of the worst behaved fan bases around and it makes me cringe when we act like them.  If you think you're better than them, then be better.  I had my rodent PhD BIL, nearly yelling at me because I said Joe Krabbenhoft should have been punished in the recent Michigan dust up as it was clear he escalated.  Even his wife and daughter thought he embarrassed himself.  I paid my own way through Marquette twice as my parents didn't have money so maybe I especially think this chant is stupid.  Have some self respect and don't act like a badger fan (aka a douche)

   it may be stupid, rude, uncalled for, etc etc etc, but as i said, i've heard and seen much much worse.  big deal.  bullsheet bullsheet bullsheet, when they use the "F" bomb, those are worse.  but what are you going to do?  over rated over rated...very disrespectful  your experiences are very unfortunate.  no need for anyone to go all "will smith" over someone for what is said.  alcohol no doubt plays in here as well.  i paid for my undergrad, grad and 2 kids ways thru MU and i feel fortunate i could do that

btw, i wasn't in the crowd leading the aforementioned chant and wouldn't join in, but that one is so very tame to the many others that have been chanted throughout the college university venues  all part of the college experience
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Newsdreams on April 02, 2022, 04:02:00 PM
I worked for a small business (about 200 employees) which was head quartered in Waltham, Mass; a Boston suburb. One time for a training session ( casual dress ) I walked in with all my Yankee gear. If looks could kill I would be dead.
Well that is different that is like Real Madrid / Barcelona, some of the biggest rivalries in sport.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Newsdreams on April 02, 2022, 04:07:43 PM
Oh, no snowballs!
At your own cheerleaders? Really? Stop being an apologist.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 02, 2022, 10:25:15 PM
Because it is an elitist chant that is stupid.  Just because you go to a private school doesn't mean you're better than them.  Given my experience (nearly a fight at a UW fb game, broken windshield, denying anything that "detracts" (like Bo Ryan massage therapist, poor graduation rates), rodents are one of the worst behaved fan bases around and it makes me cringe when we act like them.  If you think you're better than them, then be better.  I had my rodent PhD BIL, nearly yelling at me because I said Joe Krabbenhoft should have been punished in the recent Michigan dust up as it was clear he escalated.  Even his wife and daughter thought he embarrassed himself.  I paid my own way through Marquette twice as my parents didn't have money so maybe I especially think this chant is stupid.  Have some self respect and don't act like a badger fan (aka a douche)

Correct.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 02, 2022, 10:26:12 PM
Defending at every turn.

(https://c.tenor.com/43riVRFX3HMAAAAM/jennifer-lawrence-j-law.gif)
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 02, 2022, 10:27:04 PM
  why is that "embarrassing"?  you may not have found it amusing, but embarrassing?  passing around a blow-up doll may be embarrassing, but this?

A blow up doll embarrasses you?  How sexually repressed are you?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 02, 2022, 10:28:02 PM
At your own cheerleaders? Really? Stop being an apologist.

Bro, they're snowballs, not batteries.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on April 03, 2022, 07:10:19 AM
(https://c.tenor.com/43riVRFX3HMAAAAM/jennifer-lawrence-j-law.gif)
You literally have defended the actions of Badger fans as acceptable/not a big deal and have criticized MU fan at every turn.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2022, 08:48:28 AM
It might just be that chanting "public school" at Wisconsin fans and throwing snowballs at your own cheerleaders (or anyone else) are both stupid.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 03, 2022, 09:30:58 AM
It might just be that chanting "public school" at Wisconsin fans and throwing snowballs at your own cheerleaders (or anyone else) are both stupid.

All part of the college experience which is about 75% stupidity, but HEY!!  Pakman and I agree on something!!
     
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 03, 2022, 11:06:52 AM
You literally have defended the actions of Badger fans as acceptable/not a big deal and have criticized MU fan at every turn.

Life must be difficult when you don't understand nuance.  Let me lay it out for you.

If Marquette fans had been throwing snowballs I'd defend them having some fun.  If UW kids had been chanting "PRIVATE SCHOOL" as in my story, they'd also be idiots.

I have 5k posts on this board, if you think I'm a badger fan, I can't help you.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2022, 11:18:47 AM
Life must be difficult when you don't understand nuance.  Let me lay it out for you.

If Marquette fans had been throwing snowballs I'd defend them having some fun.  If UW kids had been chanting "PRIVATE SCHOOL" as in my story, they'd also be idiots.

I have 5k posts on this board, if you think I'm a badger fan, I can't help you.

What other potentially harmful projectiles are fun to throw at people on the field of play? Bottles? Batteries? Coins?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: We R Final Four on April 03, 2022, 11:38:38 AM
What other potentially harmful projectiles are fun to throw at people on the field of play? Bottles? Batteries? Coins?
It depends which fan base is throwing them.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 03, 2022, 11:39:10 AM
What other potentially harmful projectiles are fun to throw at people on the field of play? Bottles? Batteries? Coins?

blow up dolls
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Newsdreams on April 03, 2022, 04:01:09 PM
Bro, they're snowballs, not batteries.
LOL ok.....
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: JWags85 on April 03, 2022, 05:25:23 PM

I have 5k posts on this board, if you think I'm a badger fan, I can't help you.

I don’t think you’re a Badger fan by any stretch, but you’re going a bit hard into being contrarian to make people here seem silly and irrational that you’re bordering on being an apologist
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Pops Sims on April 03, 2022, 07:37:23 PM
not to mention having won 2 B1G championship and won 2 B1G COY awards...

If you want to go back to the last time MU won a game in the NCAA tournament---

UW has won 15 tournament games, made 4 Sweet 16s, 2 Elite 8s, 2 FFs, 1 championship game

To be historically accurate, UW has been the better program over the last 30 years but let's "look at the last 5 years" right???

You forgot to reference the infamous Chicago Tribune article which exposed the program in several "unflattering" ways right...

Maybe Shaka gets the program back to a consistenly good footing on par with UW...

Since the 2017-18 season, Madison has won 2 NCAA tournament games. They've also been stomped by a 12-seed (Oregon in 2019, the same year we got stomped by Morant). Despite having an experienced team that included a top-10 draft pick, they faded at the end of this season, eventually losing to an 11-seed while scoring 49 points. They've gone 2-3 vs. Marquette these last 5 years. And a couple years before that, their all-time winningest coach was forced out in a sex scandal.

Has Madison been better than Marquette these last 5 years? Sure, and it pisses me off. But they aren't the program I long for Marquette to be. There are many, many, many others I look to when I say, "Damn, I wish our program could be that."
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on April 03, 2022, 07:44:11 PM
not to mention having won 2 B1G championship and won 2 B1G COY awards...

If you want to go back to the last time MU won a game in the NCAA tournament---

UW has won 15 tournament games, made 4 Sweet 16s, 2 Elite 8s, 2 FFs, 1 championship game

To be historically accurate, UW has been the better program over the last 30 years but let's "look at the last 5 years" right???

You forgot to reference the infamous Chicago Tribune article which exposed the program in several "unflattering" ways right...

Maybe Shaka gets the program back to a consistenly good footing on par with UW...

Eff Madison. They suck.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 03, 2022, 08:03:27 PM
Nads, sour grapes is for losers, aina?
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 03, 2022, 08:27:09 PM
I don’t think you’re a Badger fan by any stretch, but you’re going a bit hard into being contrarian to make people here seem silly and irrational that you’re bordering on being an apologist

If you say so.  The over arching point I was making is that all fan bases have idiots, we (Marquette) are not immune. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: MU82 on April 03, 2022, 09:17:31 PM
Nads, sour grapes is for losers, aina?

Crean sucks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 03, 2022, 10:18:36 PM
What about the eat sh!t, f*ck you chant?

Title: Re: Wisconsin
Post by: Hards Alumni on April 04, 2022, 06:13:13 AM
What about the eat sh!t, f*ck you chant?

If you're looking for my opinion, it's clearly a stupid chant.  Not nearly as stupid as 'public school', but it isn't far.