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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: CAGASS24 on February 03, 2022, 09:29:15 AM
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Too early to start talking about raising big dollars for one more year for JLew? Scoop Angel investor NIL fund - hell I’ll drop the bag of cash off myself at his dorm room. Maybe he can perform at someone’s kids birthday party in consideration….
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Too early to start talking about raising big dollars for one more year for JLew? Scoop Angel investor NIL fund - hell I’ll drop the bag of cash off myself at his dorm room. Maybe he can perform at someone’s kids birthday party in consideration….
I stand for it.
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The last pick of the 2022 NBA draft's first round is guaranteed about $3.6 million for the next two seasons.
Justin is playing himself into that territory.
Good luck with your GoFundMe.
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Or if say an influential alumnus and donor to the University of Maryland would like to have his new coach have a building block his first year and maybe a Baltimore kid would be that guy. Then again. What if Jimbo shares some of his NIL slush fund with Buzz.
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Well let’s hope he promised someone a degree then!
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The last pick of the 2022 NBA draft's first round is guaranteed about $3.6 million for the next two seasons.
Justin is playing himself into that territory.
Good luck with your GoFundMe.
Justin was 33rd in the yesterday's Bleacher Report mock draft. He's playing himself into that 25-45 range.
I'm going to enjoy his play the rest of this season and hope Shaka pulls in replacement through the transfer portal.
O-Max could take a big step forward as well.
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I wish him the best and would love for him to return, but he gone.
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Joplin will be ready to step in and play a similar role.
No one replaces what Justin has brought this season though.
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The last pick of the 2022 NBA draft's first round is guaranteed about $3.6 million for the next two seasons.
Justin is playing himself into that territory.
Good luck with your GoFundMe.
Yeah, he is exceeding that by quite a bit. I think he's playing himself into the first round as of late.
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He gowne
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I thinks he’s definitely gone, BUT,
Staying another year to improve your stock and be a lottery pick becomes a lot easier to stomach for a family when a kid can make 500K in endorsements during that bonus year of college. NIL will keep some kids because it’s no longer all or nothing.
Also, 500K is an absurd dollar amount for a player or Justin’s profile. It will definitely need to be a booster with loose pockets. Top Green Bay Packers don’t pocket 500K / annually in local marketing.
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Fire up the ol' Beer Dice fundraiser tournament. All cash goes towards the Justin Lewis NIL fund, winner gets to hand a giant cardboard check to Mr. Lewis immediately after he wins MVP of the national championship game.
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Too early to start talking about raising big dollars for one more year for JLew? Scoop Angel investor NIL fund - hell I’ll drop the bag of cash off myself at his dorm room. Maybe he can perform at someone’s kids birthday party in consideration….
he’s on a full-ride at Marquette, yes? Want to get paid? I’m on board with that. Go pro.
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Let the young man go make his money in the league. No need to risk getting hurt next season for what is comparatively couch cushion change.
With the way transfers work now, “replacing” him is easier than it used to be.
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Or, we could just let him get drafted make 1.5-2 million in his first two years. And just use the Uncle Bucks nacho's NIL money to get a decent bigman transfer in
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Stop looking ahead and let's just all be grateful that he stuck around for this year. He deserves the payday that's coming to him and then some.
It makes this year all the more enjoyable when you're not worried about where he's going. He's here now, let's appreciate it while we still can. Helluva player.
Go Marquette.
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he’s on a full-ride at Marquette, yes? Want to get paid? I’m on board with that. Go pro.
With all due respect, this is archaic thinking.
I'm happy that athletes have a chance to profit off of their names, images and likenesses as every other college student -- and, well, every other human being, can. It's about effen time.
I know from you're posts that you're a huge Marquette fan who definitely (maybe even desperately) wants to be a top program again. Well, all the other top programs are (or soon will be) doing what they can to help their best players get NIL deals.
All that being said, it will be pretty surprising at this point if JL doesn't go pro. Then I guess, you'll be ... happy?
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Kind of off topic, but is there any data on how NIL has impacted revenue for schools?
For example, if a small business that used to buy ads on Marquette radio broadcasts decides to funnel some money towards a player for NIL, that could mean less money for the school. Or has the pie only gotten bigger for everyone?
I bring this up because while people complain about players making money from NIL, is there any reason to? If the schools are making the same amount of money, and the players are also making money now, then it's a win-win for everyone right? What is there to be bothered by?
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What is there to be bothered by?
Mostly being bothered by any kind of change.
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Kind of off topic, but is there any data on how NIL has impacted revenue for schools?
For example, if a small business that used to buy ads on Marquette radio broadcasts decides to funnel some money towards a player for NIL, that could mean less money for the school. Or has the pie only gotten bigger for everyone?
I bring this up because while people complain about players making money from NIL, is there any reason to? If the schools are making the same amount of money, and the players are also making money now, then it's a win-win for everyone right? What is there to be bothered by?
The only people being bothered by this change are old men who want "amatuers"
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The last pick of the 2022 NBA draft's first round is guaranteed about $3.6 million for the next two seasons.
Justin is playing himself into that territory.
Good luck with your GoFundMe.
I am not a Bleacher Report fan, but he was up to #33 in their latest mock draft - getting close to 1st round territory.
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With all due respect, this is archaic thinking.
I'm happy that athletes have a chance to profit off of their names, images and likenesses as every other college student -- and, well, every other human being, can. It's about effen time.
I know from you're posts that you're a huge Marquette fan who definitely (maybe even desperately) wants to be a top program again. Well, all the other top programs are (or soon will be) doing what they can to help their best players get NIL deals.
All that being said, it will be pretty surprising at this point if JL doesn't go pro. Then I guess, you'll be ... happy?
i just struggle with the idea of paying a student that’s getting a very very expensive education for free. Yes, MU benefits from a guy like Lewis’ basketball talents. And Lewis benefits by getting his education paid. If my thinking is archaic, old school? Maybe so. And yes, I realize NIL is the current and future path in college athletics. But, programs located in certain regions where commercial pursuits are not great will be hurt. Survival of the fittest, I suppose. As for Lewis going pro/my happiness…selfishly I hope he comes back next season. I think MU will be really good. And, not sure I see Lewis being nba caliber, just yet. Close, for sure. But again, I’m not a scout and commenting from a stay-so-MU-is-good perspective.
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Just gotta build a new team every year
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i just struggle with the idea of paying a student that’s getting a very very expensive education for free. Yes, MU benefits from a guy like Lewis’ basketball talents. And Lewis benefits by getting his education paid. If my thinking is archaic, old school? Maybe so. And yes, I realize NIL is the current and future path in college athletics. But, programs located in certain regions where commercial pursuits are not great will be hurt. Survival of the fittest, I suppose. As for Lewis going pro/my happiness…selfishly I hope he comes back next season. I think MU will be really good. And, not sure I see Lewis being nba caliber, just yet. Close, for sure. But again, I’m not a scout and commenting from a stay-so-MU-is-good perspective.
The bolded has always been the case.
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i just struggle with the idea of paying a student that’s getting a very very expensive education for free. Yes, MU benefits from a guy like Lewis’ basketball talents. And Lewis benefits by getting his education paid. If my thinking is archaic, old school? Maybe so. And yes, I realize NIL is the current and future path in college athletics. But, programs located in certain regions where commercial pursuits are not great will be hurt. Survival of the fittest, I suppose. As for Lewis going pro/my happiness…selfishly I hope he comes back next season. I think MU will be really good. And, not sure I see Lewis being nba caliber, just yet. Close, for sure. But again, I’m not a scout and commenting from a stay-so-MU-is-good perspective.
Schools are not paying for NIL's. Private people or entities are. If I am a drama student on scholarship I can also earn money by acting or appearing in commercials. If I am a college basketball player who is on an athletic scholarship and a drama major, I couldn't earn those outside dollars. It wasn't fair and it encouraged under the table payments.
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Okay can someone make an MUScoop NIL fund and make the kids do 90s commercials for scoop
https://www.youtube.com/v/xcJ-xmQqmrA
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Mods need to dig into their pockets for that $4M MUScoop endorsement deal.
"Hi. I'm Justin Lewis and when I want to ride the roller coaster of questionable opinions, I log on to MUScoop."
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Mods need to dig into their pockets for that $4M MUScoop endorsement deal.
"Hi. I'm Justin Lewis and when I want to ride the roller coaster of questionable opinions, I log on to MUScoop."
Now this is funny !
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Now this is funny !
+1
Which reminds, Scoop Takes has been dormant since Wojo left The Quon.
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Which reminds, Scoop Takes has been dormant since Wojo left The Quon.
Are you saying Wojo was the Scoop Takes guy?
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Joplin will be ready to step in and play a similar role.
No one replaces what Justin has brought this season though.
Joplin looks like a stud in the making.
While who wouldn't want Justin back, looking forward to getting Joplin lots of minutes next season!
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Are you saying Wojo was the Scoop Takes guy?
Wojo does strike me as a coach who would read a fans message board. Though no way he would start a parody Twitter account
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Wojo does strike me as a coach who would read a fans message board. Though no way he would start a parody Twitter account
I know who was Scoop Takes and he be appalled at the comparison to Wojo 😂
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I know who was Scoop Takes and he be appalled at the comparison to Wojo 😂
You are Mrs. Wojo?
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You are Mrs. Wojo?
Now I’m appalled
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Lewis has gotten so much better this year, but he has a ways to go. I hope he stays at Marquette to graduate. He will always cherish playing at Marquette for the test of his life. Just think how good he'll be next year and the year after. The money will be there in two more years.
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Lewis has gotten so much better this year, but he has a ways to go. I hope he stays at Marquette to graduate. He will always cherish playing at Marquette for the test of his life. Just think how good he'll be next year and the year after. The money will be there in two more years.
And I wish man would go to the moon
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Do any current players have any deals regarding NIL?
I think they are getting a percentage of their sold jerseys, correct?
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Justin Lewis has stepped up his game to a very high level and I hope he gets money next year, either NIL or playing pro. Good news, I am 100% confident that MU can be competitive in the NIL game. I said earlier this season, only having to get money for ten guys is a lot easier than supporting football and basketball. Who knows, maybe an old friend of the program makes a return and gets the ball rolling.
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I thinks he’s definitely gone, BUT,
Staying another year to improve your stock and be a lottery pick becomes a lot easier to stomach for a family when a kid can make 500K in endorsements during that bonus year of college. NIL will keep some kids because it’s no longer all or nothing.
Also, 500K is an absurd dollar amount for a player or Justin’s profile. It will definitely need to be a booster with loose pockets. Top Green Bay Packers don’t pocket 500K / annually in local marketing.
in the past, sure. But now NBA execs look at you as inferior if you didn't come out as a freshman or sophomore.
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Justin Lewis has stepped up his game to a very high level and I hope he gets money next year, either NIL or playing pro. Good news, I am 100% confident that MU can be competitive in the NIL game. I said earlier this season, only having to get money for ten guys is a lot easier than supporting football and basketball. Who knows, maybe an old friend of the program makes a return and gets the ball rolling.
That last sentence is rather cryptic Goose. I hope you are right again.
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Justin Lewis has stepped up his game to a very high level and I hope he gets money next year, either NIL or playing pro. Good news, I am 100% confident that MU can be competitive in the NIL game. I said earlier this season, only having to get money for ten guys is a lot easier than supporting football and basketball. Who knows, maybe an old friend of the program makes a return and gets the ball rolling.
I have a pretty strong idea who you are talking about.
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I have a pretty strong idea who are talking about.
Sounds like some rock hard funding
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Sounds like some rock hard funding
Don't be a dick
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Don't be a dick
NM.
I think I found the limit for too many phallic puns in my response so just gonna let this one go
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I have no idea how NIL works but if this team re-created the 1977 team photo I'd pay good money for it if I knew the money went to the players.
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When Rowsey was playing, I wanted to get his jersey, but I found out you could not get a jersey with a current player's number. Now you can. With the new NIL rules do the players get a cut of their jersey sales?
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When Rowsey was playing, I wanted to get his jersey, but I found out you could not get a jersey with a current player's number. Now you can. With the new NIL rules do the players get a cut of their jersey sales?
yes, but it's minimal.
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i just struggle with the idea of paying a student that’s getting a very very expensive education for free. Yes, MU benefits from a guy like Lewis’ basketball talents. And Lewis benefits by getting his education paid. If my thinking is archaic, old school? Maybe so. And yes, I realize NIL is the current and future path in college athletics. But, programs located in certain regions where commercial pursuits are not great will be hurt. Survival of the fittest, I suppose. As for Lewis going pro/my happiness…selfishly I hope he comes back next season. I think MU will be really good. And, not sure I see Lewis being nba caliber, just yet. Close, for sure. But again, I’m not a scout and commenting from a stay-so-MU-is-good perspective.
Education no matta, hey?
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My father, God rest his soul, used to make a funny by pointing out that people keep letting money interfere with their decision making.
The days of a VERY talented college hooper staying 4 years are over. The siren call of megabucks is out there. Justin has blossomed and still has upside potential. I don't have any idea of what his or his family's circumstances are, but I know damn well that when I was a college soph and somebody had offered a deal where I got millions I'd have had to send someone back to pack my bags because I would have left so fast.
The only thing that will bring him back is the possibility of moving up in the draft next year (which would come with a more favorable [$$$$} deal. Even then, he'd need an insurance policy to protect him against an injury.
If he goes, God bless. He'll deserve whatever he gets.
If he stays, Goddamn, we could be a force!
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Too early to start talking about raising big dollars for one more year for JLew? Scoop Angel investor NIL fund - hell I’ll drop the bag of cash off myself at his dorm room. Maybe he can perform at someone’s kids birthday party in consideration….
I don't think it's a guarantee he leaves. I don't know that he should stay...still a lot to be determined, but I don't think it matters either way.
Would it be great to have an All American caliber player back? Yup! Would it be great to have another representative in the NBA from Marquette? Yup! Would it be great to get some Front Court Representation from Marquette in the NBA? Yup!
Regardless of what he decides it will be good for both him and the program. Shaka will make it work either way. Enjoy now because this team is good enough to beat anyone at anytime. Worry about that other stuff in April.
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Would it be great to get some Front Court Representation from Marquette in the NBA? Yup!
Great post but Lewis will not be playing in the front court in the NBA.
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Great post but Lewis will not be playing in the front court in the NBA.
Yes he will. He's as big of a body as you are going to find. He has a 7 foot wingspan. Sure he may be a stretch 4 and play 3 at times, but he is going to play in the front court.
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Yes he will. He's as big of a body as you are going to find. He has a 7 foot wingspan. Sure he may be a stretch 4 and play 3 at times, but he is going to play in the front court.
His metrics are nearly identical to Jimmy Butler. NBA teams will ask him to slim down 15 lbs and he will be a tweener 2/3.
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His metrics are nearly identical to Jimmy Butler. NBA teams will ask him to slim down 15 lbs and he will be a tweener 2/3.
Just because of his height? He is nothing like Jimmy Butler aside from that. He is a true stretch 4 at the college level. I agree he will likely be asked to play some 3 at times, but he is going to be primarily a 4 like 80% of the time. He doesn't have the lateral quickness to guard 3's let alone 2's.
I think it is almost even as likely you see him play small ball 5 like the Rockets did at times with PJ Tucker at the 5 as it is to see him play the 3. He will NEVER see anytime at the 2.
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What position does Crowder play in the NBA?
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What position does Crowder play in the NBA?
Defense
Which is why he's there
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Just because of his height? He is nothing like Jimmy Butler aside from that. He is a true stretch 4 at the college level. I agree he will likely be asked to play some 3 at times, but he is going to be primarily a 4 like 80% of the time. He doesn't have the lateral quickness to guard 3's let alone 2's.
I think it is almost even as likely you see him play small ball 5 like the Rockets did at times with PJ Tucker at the 5 as it is to see him play the 3. He will NEVER see anytime at the 2.
In fact his stats are very similar to JFB's last year at MU, as is his game. Strong mid-range jumper, gets to the hoop, can create his own shot, good D, not a jump out of the gym guy, good footwork, rebounds very well, responsible with the ball. He takes more 3's than JFB did, but the percentage is the same. Inasmuch as JFB is an NBA 2, I see Lewis as a 2 or 3 as well.
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Just because of his height? He is nothing like Jimmy Butler aside from that. He is a true stretch 4 at the college level. I agree he will likely be asked to play some 3 at times, but he is going to be primarily a 4 like 80% of the time. He doesn't have the lateral quickness to guard 3's let alone 2's.
I think it is almost even as likely you see him play small ball 5 like the Rockets did at times with PJ Tucker at the 5 as it is to see him play the 3. He will NEVER see anytime at the 2.
Go watch Jimmy Butler’s MU tape. It’s a lot like Lewis and almost nothing like his current NBA tape.
This is a common occurrence for 6’7” do-it-all guys in college - dominate the front court in college, switch to a tweener guard in the NBA. There are numerous other examples I could list if you’re interested.
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If I'm an NBA team, I don't want Lewis to "slim down" and play guard. It's not who he is. I want a powerful 3/4.
If Justin keeps improving, his game will be much more similar to that of Miles Bridges than to Jimmy Butler's IMHO.
Regardless, Justin is giving us a great season so far, and I hope he gets to play in the league for a long time and make a ton of money.
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Lewis has a much bigger, heavier frame than JFB. Look at his legs. He'll always be more of a power player because of his frame.
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Go watch Jimmy Butler’s MU tape. It’s a lot like Lewis and almost nothing like his current NBA tape.
This is a common occurrence for 6’7” do-it-all guys in college - dominate the front court in college, switch to a tweener guard in the NBA. There are numerous other examples I could list if you’re interested.
Jimmy was a lot quicker than Justin. I can't envision Justin checking a Tu Holloway type PG the way Jimmy did.
Jimmy was also a much better dribbler and used his quickness to get to the rim or midrange spots. Jimmy would glide around the court. Justin has more power to his game and depends on his strength to overpower defenders.
At times, Justin loses control of his dribble and struggles in tight spots. Jimmy could knife through a defense. Justin reminds me more of Jae Crowder than Jimmy Butler.
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Jimmy and Justin are not even close to the same player lol
JImmy now or then
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Go watch Jimmy Butler’s MU tape. It’s a lot like Lewis and almost nothing like his current NBA tape.
This is a common occurrence for 6’7” do-it-all guys in college - dominate the front court in college, switch to a tweener guard in the NBA. There are numerous other examples I could list if you’re interested.
LOL, Justin is nothing like Jimmy was in college. Justin is way more like Jae, and that will probably be the role he plays in the NBA.
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LOL, Justin is nothing like Jimmy was in college. Justin is way more like Jae, and that will probably be the role he plays in the NBA.
Agreed there are almost no similarities between Justin and Jimmy aside from height.
Justin is limited with who he can guard defensively. He's far more advanced at this age than Jimmy was, but Jimmy has a guards frame. Justin is a 4 that will see time at the 3 solely due to his height. He's strong in his legs and doesn't move like a guard. More similar to Jae, but his shot isn't quite as consistent as Jae and Justin is better than Jae in the post and more explosive to the rim. Comparisons are fun, but Justin is Justin.
He is meant to be a Forward and that's ok.
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I am watching Florida vs. Ole Miss and they showed Keyontae Johnson on the sidelines. He was the player that passed out last year in what was a very scary situation.
I then googled him to see if there was any medical update on what actually took place and I found an article that stated he had an insurance policy that went into place, which Florida paid premiums on, 5 months before he passed out and the medical condition was discovered. Apparently he has an option to take a $5 million payout if he filed a claim. Is that something that universities commonly do for potential NBA players that decide to come back to school? I didn't even know schools were able to do that.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/32544357/florida-gators-keyontae-johnson-take-5m-insurance-payout-collapsing-court-report-says%3fplatform=amp