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Title: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2022, 04:34:34 PM
Some of you who are fortunate to live in or near Milwaukee and attend games at Fiserv have given differing accounts as to how much the crowd is into the games. I'm especially interested in the student section, as one student is probably equal to 10 average fans in terms of being loud and making their presence felt. Your take on our students? I believe that the TV producers suppress a lot of the crowd noise for the announcers and the camera crew only occasionally pans an expanse of the crowd, preferring instead to focus on individual fans, so I do not get a sense of what it is really like being at Fiserv. So...what do you see and hear that you like or dislike? And what about the band? 
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 24, 2022, 04:36:55 PM
Some of you who are fortunate to live in or near Milwaukee and attend games at Fiserv have given differing accounts as to how much the crowd is into the games. I'm especially interested in the student section, as one student is probably equal to 10 average fans in terms of being loud and making their presence felt. Your take on our students? I believe that the TV producers suppress a lot of the crowd noise for the announcers and the camera crew only occasionally pans an expanse of the crowd, preferring instead to focus on individual fans, so I do not get a sense of what it is really like being at Fiserv. So...what do you see and hear that you like or dislike? And what about the band?

The students have been great for the games I have been to. They're dying for a winner and have been greatly rewarded thus far.  Now that the break is over (if the X game is any representation from what I saw via social media), they will really make their presence felt for the balance of the season.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: BrewCity83 on January 24, 2022, 04:37:29 PM
The students bring a ton of energy to the games.  Yesterday (with the student sections full) it was like night and day compared to the games played over break.  The students are into the game, they're having fun, and they're leading the cheering.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Jay Bee on January 24, 2022, 04:45:00 PM
I'm especially interested in the student section, as one student is probably equal to 10 average fans in terms of being loud and making their presence felt.

I mean… yeah, some are
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: BM1090 on January 24, 2022, 04:51:53 PM
Yesterday was a really good crowd. Students were loud, rest of the crowd was engaged. Seton Hall was pretty good but missed the students. There were a lot of empty seats during the Illinois game but the crowd was loud enough.

Uconn, Providence, and DePaul were not great. Creighton was loud during the comeback but overall the crowd was mediocre. I think people just needed a reason to believe after years of having their hearts ripped out. I expect great crowds going forward other than the midweek Georgetown game.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Goose on January 24, 2022, 04:52:56 PM
I have been to every game against the top competition and think the students have been great. I got the vibe yesterday and everyone is becoming very engaged with this team.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: CountryRoads on January 24, 2022, 05:02:28 PM
It was a good crowd yesterday. Although, to be honest, the game experience is way way way down from the Crean and Buzz years. The arena used to be juiced 30 minutes before tip off all the way until the final buzzer. The energy was palpable.

Not so much anymore. There’s numerous factors that contribute to this watered down game experience in 2022, but it’s very evident. Butts were in seats though yesterday and it’s still a big time environment for a game.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Goose on January 24, 2022, 05:05:50 PM
Country

I agree on that but I think things start to pick up energy wise. It does not help that a lot of folks are in dry January, at least my group.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Uncle Rico on January 24, 2022, 05:07:49 PM
Country

I agree on that but I think things start to pick up energy wise. It does not help that a lot of folks are in dry January, at least my group.

Dry January is for quitters
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: BrewCity83 on January 24, 2022, 05:08:10 PM
It also doesn't help that a beer costs 13 bucks.  And some of these earlier game times don't leave a ton of time for pregaming at area bars.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Miss Katie’s on January 24, 2022, 05:13:29 PM
Season ticket holder here, and I think the students have brought a ton of energy and excitement so far — and it will only get better from here on out.  They are engaged, hungry for a winner, and having fun. Their biggest cheer during the intros always goes to Shaka.   It was great they were back yesterday, as the games over break were just not the same. 

I feel like some of the in game production could/should change though (music choices, game hosts, use of the band, etc.), but I believe that’s been discussed in another thread earlier this season if I recall correctly. 
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Viper on January 24, 2022, 05:16:11 PM
It also doesn't help that a beer costs 13 bucks.  And some of these earlier game times don't leave a ton of time for pregaming at area bars.
$13. Really? Tony Soprano and Uncle Paulie the distributors?
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2022, 05:37:32 PM
Season ticket holder here, and I think the students have brought a ton of energy and excitement so far — and it will only get better from here on out.  They are engaged, hungry for a winner, and having fun. Their biggest cheer during the intros always goes to Shaka.   It was great they were back yesterday, as the games over break were just not the same. 

I feel like some of the in game production could/should change though (music choices, game hosts, use of the band, etc.), but I believe that’s been discussed in another thread earlier this season if I recall correctly.

This is what I was hoping to hear! Even though it was covered in another thread, I think the in game production issues merit further discussion. I really hope that the decision makers engage all fans in the discussion of ideas, but with a special focus on the students, before making changes. This is simply Marketing 101.
   
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: OffTheGlass on January 24, 2022, 05:38:30 PM
$13. Really? Tony Soprano and Uncle Paulie the distributors?

That $13 price is a bit painful and add a bag of popcorn in the clear plastic bag and it's ridic.
My son and I went to the UWM game to see Cain and same size beer was $7.
I realize there is a difference on many fronts from the product on the floor to the facility, etc., but $13 is a bit steep
for a MU game. Just need to hit the locals longer prior to tipoff!
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Its DJOver on January 24, 2022, 05:45:02 PM
UCLA game was the best environment in quite some time, up until the actual game started. 8:00PM tip against a top 5 team.  Even once the game was going it was still one of the better environments of the year, hearing the crowd when we went on that mini run to end the first half, you would not have thought we were down 14.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Oldgym on January 24, 2022, 05:51:15 PM
It was a good crowd yesterday. Although, to be honest, the game experience is way way way down from the Crean and Buzz years. The arena used to be juiced 30 minutes before tip off all the way until the final buzzer. The energy was palpable.

Not so much anymore. There’s numerous factors that contribute to this watered down game experience in 2022, but it’s very evident. Butts were in seats though yesterday and it’s still a big time environment for a game.


I agree.  Crean, in particular, focused on selling the experience.  Remember that whole "largest crowd to see a college hoops game in Wisconsin" shtick?  It worked.  He was a hell of a salesman and he consistently got butts in seats.  The program was on the move then.  Great Alaska Shootout, DWade, the FF, the move to the Big East.  It had people's attention.  Even the buy games, the BC felt like the place to be.

The Wojo era had a few moments, of course.  I have not been to every game, but yesterday's juice reminded me a little of the Friday night game a couple years ago against an excellent Buffalo squad, where Markus went nuts and the packed house followed.  But it hasn't been like that consistently for a long time, and I don't fully understand why. 

I would be surprised, though, if that trend was special to Marquette and not CBB as a whole.

I don't know what Shaka will do as a pitchman, but seeing the progression back into a winner fixes so many things.  Yesterday was fantastic.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 24, 2022, 05:53:50 PM
UCLA game was the best environment in quite some time, up until the actual game started. 8:00PM tip against a top 5 team.  Even once the game was going it was still one of the better environments of the year, hearing the crowd when we went on that mini run to end the first half, you would not have thought we were down 14.

Now that's the mark of loyal, fully engaged fans! Reminds me of the St. Johns fan right behind my wife and me at the BET in '19. Marquette won by over 30 points but if you listened only to her rather than watching the game, you would think St. Johns was blowing us out. I really admired her for that. My ears were ringing afterwards.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Miss Katie’s on January 24, 2022, 06:08:31 PM
This is what I was hoping to hear! Even though it was covered in another thread, I think the in game production issues merit further discussion. I really hope that the decision makers engage all fans in the discussion of ideas, but with a special focus on the students, before making changes. This is simply Marketing 101.

Definitely merits further discussion, especially as the season progresses and people see what they like and don’t like.  I am a fan of some of the contests (like free Shake Shack after two opponent missed free throws and free QDoba after 32 deflections), but the music and game hosts seem like they could use an overhaul. 
   
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: LloydsLegs on January 24, 2022, 06:09:51 PM
Was at Illinois game and yesterday. 

Illinois was fantastic energy - in part the product of (and I think contributing to) the comeback energy and then it being a very close game to the wire.

Yesterday was also very good, but not at top level.

I attended with 2 nephews, one of whom is an MU grad and the other an IU grad (no, he wasn’t there for Crean- MU is is second favorite team-his mom went to MU and we are an MU family, dammit). 

The IU grad had only been to one other game at Fiserv-and it was the Norby game-and I thought his comments on the X game experience were telling.  He was incredibly impressed with the constant engagement of the fans by the MU Gamed Day team- he said that at IU games they get none of that-the game is the experience, and that’s it.  While I’d like to believe that the game should be enough, it isn’t for those fans who are marginal or who have younger kids etc.  As he noted, the MU game experience is more akin to a professional team.  While I sometimes find that annoying, it is another benefit to the infrastructure of Fiserv plus the MU Gameday team effort and budget.  I have been taking that for granted, and I shouldn’t be.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: #UnleashSean on January 24, 2022, 06:11:31 PM
Get rid of dj snack daddy and the girl. That is all.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 24, 2022, 06:12:12 PM
It also doesn't help that a beer costs 13 bucks.  And some of these earlier game times don't leave a ton of time for pregaming at area bars.

Then you're not starting pregaming early enough. At minimum, a hatchback, a case of High Life (the one time I condone cans), and a parking lot should suffice.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 24, 2022, 06:20:19 PM
Then you're not starting pregaming early enough. At minimum, a hatchback, a case of High Life (the one time I condone cans), and a parking lot should suffice.

I actually tried this in a ford 500 for the West Virginia game in 2011 in the lot that was across from the Bradley center. Nobody was interested in having a beer, people looked at us like we were nuts, and we realized that we as 19yr olds had to drive past a bunch of cops back to campus with a trunk full of beer. Would suggest just going to the bars.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: pbiflyer on January 24, 2022, 06:28:41 PM
Country

I agree on that but I think things start to pick up energy wise. It does not help that a lot of folks are in dry January, at least my group.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2022, 06:29:33 PM
Love when the students break into a Shaka chant in the middle of the game.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 24, 2022, 06:38:08 PM
I'm always amused by the beer price angst.  If a $13 beer is gonna kill your budget, plan your drinking appropriately before the game.  If it isn't, buy 2 and give one to a poor looking stranger!
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 24, 2022, 06:40:13 PM
Love when the students break into a Shaka chant in the middle of the game.

Missed opportunity not to rebrand "Shake Shack" to "Shaka Shack"
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 24, 2022, 06:40:57 PM
I don't know,  I was there yesterday and while the students were numerous, I thought they were very stiff. Not that the STHs are better but they've always been more reserved. My section tried to stand on a couple big plays and we were asked to sit by the people behind us. It wasn't until the game was in hand that the crowd really perked up
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: THRILLHO on January 24, 2022, 06:43:09 PM

I agree.  Crean, in particular, focused on selling the experience.  Remember that whole "largest crowd to see a college hoops game in Wisconsin" shtick?  It worked.  He was a hell of a salesman and he consistently got butts in seats.  The program was on the move then.  Great Alaska Shootout, DWade, the FF, the move to the Big East.  It had people's attention.  Even the buy games, the BC felt like the place to be.

The BC was not too full Crean's first 2 years, coinciding with mine, despite his salesmanship. I wouldn't be surprised if his marketing schtick made some marginal difference over the previous year, but what really gets butts in seats is having players like Dwyane Wade and winning tons of games. I guess folks who were going to games in the mediocre period between Wade leaving and the three amigos arriving can tell us how great Crean's salesmanship did at filling the seats then.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 24, 2022, 06:49:24 PM
I don't know,  I was there yesterday and while the students were numerous, I thought they were very stiff. Not that the STHs are better but they've always been more reserved. My section tried to stand on a couple big plays and we were asked to sit by the people behind us. It wasn't until the game was in hand that the crowd really perked up

There was a lot of non-students still in the student section I noticed. They then rolled back the tarps at tip time as the students showed.

That said, game ops is tough during COVID. What do you plan for? Getting people up and yelling with masks on?  I also noticed the Vesties around me are very reserved about getting up and yelling, if they are there at all. Clapping yes. Pretty dull.

After the HOF ceremony at half, people emptied out to hit the head or concessions and I think that hurt the energy to start the half for X's run.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 24, 2022, 06:49:48 PM
I'm always amused by the beer price angst.  If a $13 beer is gonna kill your budget, plan your drinking appropriately before the game.  If it isn't, buy 2 and give one to a poor looking stranger!

If you're offering come national Marquette day...
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 24, 2022, 07:01:22 PM
If you're offering come national Marquette day...

I'll likely be watching that one from an airport, likely drinking > $13 beers, lol.  But if your at the same airport bar and wearing Marquette gear, I'll send a beer your way.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 24, 2022, 07:07:03 PM
or wear really baggy clothes ;)
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: brewcity77 on January 24, 2022, 07:12:37 PM
I don't know,  I was there yesterday and while the students were numerous, I thought they were very stiff. Not that the STHs are better but they've always been more reserved. My section tried to stand on a couple big plays and we were asked to sit by the people behind us. It wasn't until the game was in hand that the crowd really perked up

I feel like masks impact the fan engagement. Muffles the cheers.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: avid1010 on January 24, 2022, 07:16:24 PM
I think we're over-thinking this...win and fans will come and be loud.  Shaka and team are off to a hell of a start. 
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on January 24, 2022, 07:30:52 PM

My son and I went to the UWM game to see Cain and same size beer was $7.
I realize there is a difference on many fronts from the product on the floor to the facility, etc., but $13 is a bit steep

As someone who is in UWMPA 20 times per year for the Panthers & Admirals. Concessions prices are so much better.

Also, I thought the crowd had more energy for Seton Hall than Xavier. Others said it might be Packers fan sadness.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: warriorchick on January 24, 2022, 07:38:54 PM
Get rid of dj snack daddy and the girl. That is all.


The female MC is under 18?  She looks older.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 24, 2022, 07:45:09 PM
I'm always amused by the beer price angst.  If a $13 beer is gonna kill your budget, plan your drinking appropriately before the game.  If it isn't, buy 2 and give one to a poor looking stranger!
This, people, is the proper way to rebate your Scoop membership fees.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: We R Final Four on January 24, 2022, 08:17:59 PM
The student section has been absolutely fantastic IMO this year.
Always cheering loudly for Shaka especially.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: MUfan12 on January 24, 2022, 10:30:41 PM
I don't know,  I was there yesterday and while the students were numerous, I thought they were very stiff. Not that the STHs are better but they've always been more reserved. My section tried to stand on a couple big plays and we were asked to sit by the people behind us. It wasn't until the game was in hand that the crowd really perked up

Yeah the crowd yesterday was disappointing, I thought. The winning streak, the Nova win, a ranked team... That place should have been bouncing from the start.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Shark on January 24, 2022, 10:48:05 PM
I feel like masks impact the fan engagement. Muffles the cheers.

Was waiting to say this but didn't wanna rustle any jimmies
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: StillWarriors on January 24, 2022, 11:45:00 PM
Yeah the crowd yesterday was disappointing, I thought. The winning streak, the Nova win, a ranked team... That place should have been bouncing from the start.

I thought so too. I felt far more energy at the IL and UCLA games. Maybe I just expected too much, but I thought the place would be energized from the jump coming in on such a hot streak, big game and the students just back from break.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 25, 2022, 07:32:51 AM
I think we're over-thinking this...win and fans will come and be loud. 

Shaka and team are off to a hell of a start. 

This is the answer.  Just win.

TBH, though, I don't see any reduction in entertainment operations from the Crean era to now.  The bar was raised and people are used to it.   Not much else to be done besides giving every row their own personal cheerleader.  8-)
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Warrior of Law on January 25, 2022, 08:51:10 AM
I took a non-MU person to the game on Sunday.  He was impressed by the attendance and enthusiasm.  For a Sunday afternoon game, I thought it was a fantastic atmosphere.  There are two Saturday games left on the calendar and I would expect great environments at both. Most importantly, this is all due to Shaka.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: BrewCity83 on January 25, 2022, 09:17:37 AM
I'm always amused by the beer price angst.  If a $13 beer is gonna kill your budget, plan your drinking appropriately before the game.  If it isn't, buy 2 and give one to a poor looking stranger!

I don't like paying $13 for a pint but I won't let that stop me from having a few at the game if I want 'em.  My comment was meant more as a general observation that cheaper beer prices would result in higher arena-wide consumption, which would lead to a more raucous crowd.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 25, 2022, 09:20:14 AM
$13 dollars for a beer is absurd. I'll still pay as i stress drink during games whether I went to the local bars beforehand or not but it's more than the United Center's 12 and Milwaukee's supposedly so much cheaper.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: MUfan12 on January 25, 2022, 09:23:25 AM
TBH, though, I don't see any reduction in entertainment operations from the Crean era to now.  The bar was raised and people are used to it.

I think it's just a far less organized operation. The DJ now has no feel for the game/momentum. Plays some bizarre songs (baby shark still?) and plays over the band.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: BrewCity83 on January 25, 2022, 09:27:31 AM
The DJ now has no feel for the game/momentum. Plays some bizarre songs (baby shark still?) and plays over the band.

This!  Exactly!!
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Ardmore Mug on January 25, 2022, 09:29:44 AM
I think it's just a far less organized operation. The DJ now has no feel for the game/momentum. Plays some bizarre songs (baby shark still?) and plays over the band.

and the woman whom works with him, her voice so squeaky ! ! !  There were a few complaints before and she was removed from the act.  Now she's back ! ! !  AAAggghhh  8-)
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 25, 2022, 09:34:01 AM
I think it's just a far less organized operation. The DJ now has no feel for the game/momentum. Plays some bizarre songs (baby shark still?) and plays over the band.

 Who are the people who make the decisions regarding all this and more?  How much control do MU employees have the activities?
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 25, 2022, 09:49:49 AM
I don't like paying $13 for a pint but I won't let that stop me from having a few at the game if I want 'em.  My comment was meant more as a general observation that cheaper beer prices would result in higher arena-wide consumption, which would lead to a more raucous crowd.

Fair, although I think concessions are completely out of MUs hands now.  At least I think I recall that as a change from the BC -> FF.  Though I do wonder how they organize those $5 beer games?  I'm sure someone here has more info, so I'll just stop.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 25, 2022, 09:51:18 AM
I don't like paying $13 for a pint but I won't let that stop me from having a few at the game if I want 'em.  My comment was meant more as a general observation that cheaper beer prices would result in higher arena-wide consumption, which would lead to a more raucous crowd.


They are pricing it to maximize revenue, not to maximize crowd raucousness.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: BrewCity83 on January 25, 2022, 09:53:59 AM

They are pricing it to maximize revenue, not to maximize crowd raucousness.
I know why they're doing it.  I'm saying that they fact that they are doing it is affecting the amount of drinking at games and therefore the liveliness of the crowd.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on January 25, 2022, 10:38:08 AM
I believe it was $13 since FF opened, probably going up next year.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: MUfan12 on January 25, 2022, 10:39:38 AM
Who are the people who make the decisions regarding all this and more?  How much control do MU employees have the activities?

All the in-game entertainment is controlled by MU. Not sure who the point person is on it.

So much of this is geared towards the students, but the students don't really respond to it outside of the Shake Shack FT thing. The "Student Section Party" timeout is hilarious. No one is into it.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 25, 2022, 11:02:27 AM
I'll likely be watching that one from an airport, likely drinking > $13 beers, lol.  But if your at the same airport bar and wearing Marquette gear, I'll send a beer your way.

What day & game is NMD this year?
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 25, 2022, 11:06:41 AM
What day & game is NMD this year?

Butler on Sat 2/26 - noon game.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: The Lens on January 25, 2022, 11:32:37 AM
This is the answer.  Just win.

TBH, though, I don't see any reduction in entertainment operations from the Crean era to now.  The bar was raised and people are used to it.   Not much else to be done besides giving every row their own personal cheerleader.  8-)

Not so much reduction but some changes, less emphasis.  Crean was big on Hot Timeouts (this was profiled in an article several years ago) --- timeouts that immediately go into music specifically designed to keep the crowd loud.  MU does them to an extent but they may be started after they do a :30 ad read.  That Prof of the Game needs to go or be done at halftime.  That's one suggestion.  The other is if you want a Hot Timeout, make it hot.  Ditch the ad read and go right to your Top 5 music selections, ESPECIALLY if your opponent just called at TO after you made a play.  Keep the party rocking.  Back then they had game ops DJ who is a professional show man and understands events.  Now they just have a DJ who gets music transitions and the like but isn't as in tuned to working the crowd.  Couple that with this stuff was one of TC's top priorities and it was not with Buzz & Wojo so those little details could slide.

I went to the MU women's game (Loss to Nova) and every timeout was hopping.  Fantastic atmosphere.   
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: DienerTime34 on January 25, 2022, 11:49:50 AM
One underrated aspect of the Crean/Buzz years - and a big reason those crowds were a bit rowdier - is the nationally-known (and hated) coaches on the opposing sidelines. Man, did people love booing Pitino, Boeheim, Calhoun & Huggins. Even casual fans knew to be up for those games.

As great as the Big East is basketball-wise now, there was just some added juice to those match-ups you don't get from a Creighton or Butler. Not to mention we played Notre Dame in those days as well.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Wade-A-Minute on January 25, 2022, 02:02:35 PM
Crean was very much in control of songs played during time outs. I had front row seats behind MU's bench at the Bradley Center. I recall an intense 1 point game against Georgetown and a time out was called with about 2 minutes left. The crowd was very loud and into the game. I don't remember what song the dj played but Crean was furious and said something to Broeker. We were amazed that he noticed that in the throws of a tight game heading into a time out. The biggie back then was Cotton Eyed Joe.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 25, 2022, 02:08:47 PM
Crean was very much in control of songs played during time outs. I had front row seats behind MU's bench at the Bradley Center. I recall an intense 1 point game against Georgetown and a time out was called with about 2 minutes left. The crowd was very loud and into the game. I don't remember what song the dj played but Crean was furious and said something to Broeker. We were amazed that he noticed that in the throws of a tight game heading into a time out. The biggie back then was Cotton Eyed Joe.

The OG baby shark song for you kids reading
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: 94Warrior on January 25, 2022, 02:31:10 PM
I loved the
KAR-EN SY-PHER
chants at Pitino while we were routing Looserville. 

May have been loudest during the same game Buzz walked it out following the DJO power jam.

Need more hated rivals with unlikeable coaches on the schedule.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: MUfan12 on January 25, 2022, 02:41:11 PM
Here's that article Lens mentioned. Need to get back to this.

"Todd Scheel, whose Milwaukee company FX in Motion began playing the song at Marquette in 2002 as part of a contract for game entertainment, said he "stumbled" across the song. "It didn't take long to catch on." Scheel took it to Wake Forest for a TV game against Duke on Feb. 13, 2003, which Wake won in double overtime. Hauser said in the days after that game he received calls from schools around the nation wanting to know about that song.

"I had never heard it before," Hauser said. "I think one of the reasons it was successful (for us) is that we played it for a big conference game, we won, and it was a team with Chris Paul."

Scheel and Hauser agree that a song such as this is most effective in basketball at what they call "hot timeouts." That's when the home team has gone on a run to catch up or pull ahead, usually forcing the other team to call a timeout.

"That's the worst time to bring out a promotion or to do something with a sponsor," said Hauser. "In a hot timeout we're going with something like Zombie Nation or the fight song."

Says Scheel, "If you catch the crowd as they are ramping up to its peak or at its peak and you have a song like that, the entire arena claps to it and you can sustain that through the whole timeout."


https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2009-02-19-zombie-nation-arena-music_N.htm
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: The Lens on January 25, 2022, 03:14:04 PM
Here's that article Lens mentioned. Need to get back to this.

"Todd Scheel, whose Milwaukee company FX in Motion began playing the song at Marquette in 2002 as part of a contract for game entertainment, said he "stumbled" across the song. "It didn't take long to catch on." Scheel took it to Wake Forest for a TV game against Duke on Feb. 13, 2003, which Wake won in double overtime. Hauser said in the days after that game he received calls from schools around the nation wanting to know about that song.

"I had never heard it before," Hauser said. "I think one of the reasons it was successful (for us) is that we played it for a big conference game, we won, and it was a team with Chris Paul."

Scheel and Hauser agree that a song such as this is most effective in basketball at what they call "hot timeouts." That's when the home team has gone on a run to catch up or pull ahead, usually forcing the other team to call a timeout.

"That's the worst time to bring out a promotion or to do something with a sponsor," said Hauser. "In a hot timeout we're going with something like Zombie Nation or the fight song."

Says Scheel, "If you catch the crowd as they are ramping up to its peak or at its peak and you have a song like that, the entire arena claps to it and you can sustain that through the whole timeout."


https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2009-02-19-zombie-nation-arena-music_N.htm

Yea, I'm not crazy, this is science.  And I'm not complaining to complain --- we once were great at it and now we're just OK.  And it's totally fixable. 

Honestly, when TC gets fired in 2 months bring him back as Basketball CMO.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 25, 2022, 03:20:24 PM
There is definitely some truth to that. Would always love to hear Zombie Nation after a big momentum swing to timeout.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: connie on January 25, 2022, 03:29:42 PM
I think it's just a far less organized operation. The DJ now has no feel for the game/momentum. Plays some bizarre songs (baby shark still?) and plays over the band.
Sorry, if she's drowning out the band she has to stay.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 25, 2022, 03:31:24 PM
Sorry, if she's drowning out the band she has to stay.

Why? Does she have dirt on someone?
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: jesmu84 on January 25, 2022, 07:20:16 PM

They are pricing it to maximize revenue, not to maximize crowd raucousness.

Wish they'd take the Atlanta falcons approach
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: We R Final Four on January 25, 2022, 07:28:52 PM
Why? Does she have dirt on someone?
I believe Connie is the one who picked seats next to the band……..and doesn’t like the band.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Miss Katie’s on January 25, 2022, 07:38:09 PM
Wish they'd take the Atlanta falcons approach

+1

Wish all venues would do this. 
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 25, 2022, 07:47:20 PM
+1

Wish all venues would do this. 

Well if f course we wish that. But it doesn’t make a lot of sense from the venues perspective.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 25, 2022, 09:08:38 PM
I believe Connie is the one who picked seats next to the band……..and doesn’t like the band.

Lol genius move.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on January 25, 2022, 09:45:34 PM
I think we're over-thinking this...win and fans will come and be loud.  Shaka and team are off to a hell of a start.

Agree with this.  Listen...a lot of these kids (Freshman and Sophomores and any transfer kids) are experiencing in arena basketball for the first time due to COVID.  The traditions and noise will pick back up, especially if Shaka's brand is here to stay.  Win and this will be the class of the Big East in terms of in game home experience.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2022, 08:05:51 AM
The comments here gave me a really good idea of what is going on while I am muting obnoxious ads (e.g., Liberty with that stupid emu and his equally stupid human) and your remarks are a mixed bag, just as would be expected. Thanks for posting.

While I had moved West to the Blue Ridge Mountain area by the time Shaka was VCU, I lived in Richmond for 20 years and in addition to seeing games on TV and highlights on the news, I knew from friends Shaka had taken the city by storm. The energy at the home games was absolutely amazing and VCU's band and students fed off of each other.

The impression I got here is that our band, the DJ and some other factors/players leave plenty of room for improvement. Maybe when Shaka has a moment to spare in between planning yet another victory he can pass on the name(s) of the person(s) who orchestrated VCU's act.     
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 26, 2022, 08:10:25 AM
The comments here gave me a really good idea of what is going on while I am muting obnoxious ads (e.g., Liberty with that stupid emu and his equally stupid human) and your remarks are a mixed bag, just as would be expected. Thanks for posting.

While I had moved West to the Blue Ridge Mountain area by the time Shaka was VCU, I lived in Richmond for 20 years and in addition to seeing games on TV and highlights on the news, I knew from friends Shaka had taken the city by storm. The energy at the home games was absolutely amazing and VCU's band and students fed off of each other.

The impression I got here is that our band, the DJ and some other factors/players leave plenty of room for improvement. Maybe when Shaka has a moment to spare in between planning yet another victory he can pass on the name(s) of the person(s) who orchestrated VCU's act.   

VCU also has a music program.  But yeah, their band was insanely good.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Goose on January 26, 2022, 08:17:51 AM
I love the fact they are engaging the fans with defensive goals. This is another example of building an identity and a brand. Once everyone fully understands the goals, I think the place gets louder and louder. The good news, there is a ton of excitement around this team and that build on itself. Four weeks ago, folks left the FF awfully disappointed, and things have changed to the upside quickly.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Warrior Code on January 26, 2022, 08:30:10 AM
Crean was very much in control of songs played during time outs. I had front row seats behind MU's bench at the Bradley Center. I recall an intense 1 point game against Georgetown and a time out was called with about 2 minutes left. The crowd was very loud and into the game. I don't remember what song the dj played but Crean was furious and said something to Broeker. We were amazed that he noticed that in the throws of a tight game heading into a time out. The biggie back then was Cotton Eyed Joe.

I hope I never hear Cotton Eye Joe again
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2022, 08:30:28 AM
I love the fact they are engaging the fans with defensive goals. This is another example of building an identity and a brand. Once everyone fully understands the goals, I think the place gets louder and louder. The good news, there is a ton of excitement around this team and that build on itself. Four weeks ago, folks left the FF awfully disappointed, and things have changed to the upside quickly.

Please explain. "Defensive goals"?

Hey, on another matter altogether- I am of a similar vintage to you and dgies (class of '70). Aren't you two going to invite me to join you when we are playing for our second Natty? Who are the other members of MUOFA (MU Old Farts Association) on Scoop?
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: tower912 on January 26, 2022, 08:35:51 AM
Deflections.   It could go up on the scoreboard.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2022, 08:41:55 AM
Deflections.   It could go up on the scoreboard.

Got it! Thanks.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Goose on January 26, 2022, 08:45:37 AM
Scoop

Everyone is invited to the 2nd Natty game. They are announcing D kills and deflections during time outs and think it is a great move. This program is being built by the defensive and I think folks will get more and more engaged when they are playing defense.

Also, I am not one of the really old guys on here, but close.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: brewcity77 on January 26, 2022, 08:48:53 AM
Was waiting to say this but didn't wanna rustle any jimmies

It's just reality. I was wearing a mask to some games when it wasn't required and am in favor of the requirement, but it's obvious as a fan that we don't get as loud when everyone is masked. I don't get as loud when I'm masked. If I have to speak up to talk to the person sitting next to me, there's no way my cheers carry as far behind the N95.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 26, 2022, 08:50:42 AM
Scoop

Everyone is invited to the 2nd Natty game. They are announcing D kills and deflections during time outs and think it is a great move. This program is being built by the defensive and I think folks will get more and more engaged when they are playing defense.

Also, I am not one of the really old guys on here, but close.

Goose might be 80, but I swear he doesn't look a day over 95.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 26, 2022, 08:51:48 AM
I hope I never hear Cotton Eye Joe again

I hate cotton eyed joe. If it weren't for him I'd been married long time ago
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2022, 08:52:41 AM
Scoop

Everyone is invited to the 2nd Natty game. They are announcing D kills and deflections during time outs and think it is a great move. This program is being built by the defensive and I think folks will get more and more engaged when they are playing defense.

Also, I am not one of the really old guys on here, but close.

I was just pulling your chain Goose. In another thread dgies and you agreed to meet up for the Natty and you guys did not reply (unless I missed it) to my attempt to crash the party before it was even scheduled. I really hope to see Marquette get another Natty before I croak, and with Shaka as our coach, it may be in the near future. Ummm... Natty, I hope. Not the alternative.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: connie on January 26, 2022, 09:33:31 AM
I believe Connie is the one who picked seats next to the band……..and doesn’t like the band.
I got a fever, and the only cure, is more xylophone!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 26, 2022, 09:58:08 AM
Crean was very much in control of songs played during time outs. I had front row seats behind MU's bench at the Bradley Center. I recall an intense 1 point game against Georgetown and a time out was called with about 2 minutes left. The crowd was very loud and into the game. I don't remember what song the dj played but Crean was furious and said something to Broeker. We were amazed that he noticed that in the throws of a tight game heading into a time out. The biggie back then was Cotton Eyed Joe.




T-Cubed wanted "Save Room in the Lifeboat for Me" played durin' dat TO, hey?
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: wiscwarrior on January 26, 2022, 10:02:37 AM
The comments here gave me a really good idea of what is going on while I am muting obnoxious ads (e.g., Liberty with that stupid emu and his equally stupid human) and your remarks are a mixed bag, just as would be expected. Thanks for posting.

While I had moved West to the Blue Ridge Mountain area by the time Shaka was VCU, I lived in Richmond for 20 years and in addition to seeing games on TV and highlights on the news, I knew from friends Shaka had taken the city by storm. The energy at the home games was absolutely amazing and VCU's band and students fed off of each other.

The impression I got here is that our band, the DJ and some other factors/players leave plenty of room for improvement. Maybe when Shaka has a moment to spare in between planning yet another victory he can pass on the name(s) of the person(s) who orchestrated VCU's act.   

Mostly a lurker, but just curious, whereabout in the Blue Ridge? I just moved to Blowing Rock and I'm of your vintage, class of 68.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: wildbillsb on January 26, 2022, 10:13:52 AM
Please explain. "Defensive goals"?

Hey, on another matter altogether- I am of a similar vintage to you and dgies (class of '70). Aren't you two going to invite me to join you when we are playing for our second Natty?

Who are the other members of MUOFA (MU Old Farts Association) on Scoop?
Me.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2022, 10:33:48 AM
Mostly a lurker, but just curious, whereabout in the Blue Ridge? I just moved to Blowing Rock and I'm of your vintage, class of 68.

Nelson County, which is about midway between Charlottesville and Lynchburg.

Are you going to the BET? My wife and I are planning to go (last time was '19) and we would take Amtrack again. Right into Penn Station just below MSG. 'Would be great to meet up.

Welcome to MUOFA!
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2022, 10:34:22 AM
Me.

Welcome to MUOFA!
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: wiscwarrior on January 26, 2022, 11:13:12 AM
Nelson County, which is about midway between Charlottesville and Lynchburg.

Are you going to the BET? My wife and I are planning to go (last time was '19) and we would take Amtrack again. Right into Penn Station just below MSG. 'Would be great to meet up.

Welcome to MUOFA!

Long time season ticket holder when in Wisconsin. Have always wanted to go to the BET. Right now we're still settling in to our new digs so can't go this year. Would love to go in the future. If you're ever down this way...
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: Scoop Snoop on January 26, 2022, 11:20:02 AM
Long time season ticket holder when in Wisconsin. Have always wanted to go to the BET. Right now we're still settling in to our new digs so can't go this year. Would love to go in the future. If you're ever down this way...

Thanks! Maybe you will change your mind about going to NYC, especially if Shaka keeps our guys rolling. PM me- maybe we know some of the same alumni from our era.
Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 26, 2022, 11:20:51 AM
I love the fact they are engaging the fans with defensive goals. This is another example of building an identity and a brand. Once everyone fully understands the goals, I think the place gets louder and louder. The good news, there is a ton of excitement around this team and that build on itself. Four weeks ago, folks left the FF awfully disappointed, and things have changed to the upside quickly.

Same, Goose. It's something my wife latched onto very quickly with the "kills" concept, which I will use as a loose confirmation bias that it's an engaging and accessible concept for the casual fan.

Title: Re: Fans at Fiserv
Post by: barfolomew on January 26, 2022, 12:52:04 PM
I hope I never hear Cotton Eye Joe again

Agreed, but that song will always remind me of the FF in 2003 because there was some gawky t-shirt store as you entered the Quarter that was blasting it 24/7.