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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: BallBoy on January 16, 2022, 10:44:05 AM

Title: Foul at the end
Post by: BallBoy on January 16, 2022, 10:44:05 AM
A lot of the coverage today is Marquette won on a controversial call at the end so I want to pose the question, was it a foul? 

My opinion is yes.  Not just because the ref called it but Bryce was jumping out not straight up. Though Elliott initiated the contact, Bryce hadn’t established position at the time of contact and that’s a foul. Unfortunately for him, his face took the impact on Elliot’s elbow which is no different than if it was his hand.

It would have been more controversial if they didn’t call it or called it an offensive foul.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on January 16, 2022, 10:47:45 AM
Are you kidding me? A new thread for this? Just go visit all 9 pages in the post game thread. It’s been well documented already
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 16, 2022, 11:05:06 AM
A lot of the coverage today is Marquette won on a controversial call at the end so I want to pose the question, was it a foul? 

My opinion is yes.  Not just because the ref called it but Bryce was jumping out not straight up. Though Elliott initiated the contact, Bryce hadn’t established position at the time of contact and that’s a foul. Unfortunately for him, his face took the impact on Elliot’s elbow which is no different than if it was his hand.

It would have been more controversial if they didn’t call it or called it an offensive foul.

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Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: forgetful on January 16, 2022, 11:21:51 AM
Wait, there was a foul at the end of the game? Who knew?
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: MU82 on January 16, 2022, 11:25:59 AM
So ... on-campus arena ... yep or nope?
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: cheebs09 on January 16, 2022, 11:30:37 AM
So ... on-campus arena ... yep or nope?

Hopefully adjacent to the new football field.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: jesmu84 on January 16, 2022, 11:34:15 AM
It was a medieval style foul at best
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: MU82 on January 16, 2022, 11:35:17 AM
The logo MU uses sometimes is fowl.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: We R Final Four on January 16, 2022, 11:39:24 AM
I would PM Fluffy and get his opinion.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: mu_hilltopper on January 16, 2022, 11:42:05 AM
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=62784.msg1406653#msg1406653
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: dajudge on January 16, 2022, 12:17:06 PM
I would PM Fluffy and get his opinion.
This made laugh!!!
When I got done reading the game thread, I went back to threads telling how to ignore a poster!!!
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 16, 2022, 12:18:28 PM
This made laugh!!!
When I got done reading the game thread, I went back to threads telling how to ignore a poster!!!

😍😍😍
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: wadesworld on January 16, 2022, 01:03:13 PM
The OP is correct. Aiken moved about 3 feet into Greg. Greg moved about 6.75 inches forward on his shot attempt. The way MU was reffed on jump shooters all day, it was an obvious whistle.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: willie warrior on January 16, 2022, 01:31:37 PM
Are you kidding me? A new thread for this? Just go visit all 9 pages in the post game thread. It’s been well documented already
Dont worry. Fluffy will have at least 10 posts more establishing that it was not a foul. Cue the picture of the guy flogging the dead horse.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: Balrogs on January 16, 2022, 02:04:28 PM
Dont worry. Fluffy will have at least 10 posts more establishing that it was not a foul. Cue the picture of the guy flogging the dead horse.

Plus a count of how many times he has acknowledged the non-call hand grab foul (but only cause he got called out for not acknowledging it originally and is trying to save face - at least whatever is left)
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 16, 2022, 02:15:39 PM
Plus a count of how many times he has acknowledged the non-call hand grab foul (but only cause he got called out for not acknowledging it originally and is trying to save face - at least whatever is left)


Here is where I first acknowledged the arm grab:

Yep. No foul on the shot though.


Here is where you "called me out" for not acknowledging it.  Over 45 minutes after I actually did.

But you constantly ignore the grab on the arm prior to the shot.  That's where you have a problem in integrity.  You just roll over that to lamblast others on the final call.


So someone here needs to save face...but it ain't me.

(And it wasn't a foul.)
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 16, 2022, 02:16:54 PM
Dont worry. Fluffy will have at least 10 posts more establishing that it was not a foul. Cue the picture of the guy flogging the dead horse.


(https://c.tenor.com/mHWZoNUt2M0AAAAM/dead-horse-beating-a-dead-horse.gif)
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: Pakuni on January 16, 2022, 02:22:27 PM
I think with another 30-40 posts, you guys might be able to reach a consensus on this.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 16, 2022, 02:26:36 PM
I think with another 30-40 posts, you guys might be able to reach a consensus on this.


I actually was done.  Planted my victory flag and moved on in glory long ago.  I just think its funny that "Ballrogs" thinks he called me out for not acknowledging something I did actually acknowledge....repeatedly.

Gotta be kind of embarrassing for him actually.  Hope he can "save face - at least what is left of it."
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: forgetful on January 16, 2022, 02:29:41 PM

I actually was done.  Planted my victory flag and moved on in glory long ago.  I just think its funny that "Ballrogs" thinks he called me out for not acknowledging something I did actually acknowledge....repeatedly.

Gotta be kind of embarrassing for him actually.  Hope he can "save face - at least what is left of it."

Fluff planting his victory flag and moving on in glory.

(https://tenor.com/bcoc3.gif)

Well crap. Wanted the Hassleback "we want the ball and we're gonna score gif," but apparently I don't know how to link it properly.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: panda on January 16, 2022, 02:34:34 PM
Fluff planting his victory flag and moving on in glory.

(https://tenor.com/bcoc3.gif)

Well crap. Wanted the Hassleback "we want the ball and we're gonna score gif," but apparently I don't know how to link it properly.

(https://thumbnails.texastribune.org/B5IBvIFyVRk4Heq7SZpqMQzdmqo=/1200x804/smart/filters:format(webp):quality(75)/https://static.texastribune.org/media/files/9ffe11c414f13ce4a8fba58ba9ea8e33/Trump%20Election%202020%20REUTERS%20TT%2002.jpg)

“I did win!!”

Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 16, 2022, 02:36:10 PM
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/08/obama_170156-520x320.jpg?quality=80&strip=all)
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 16, 2022, 02:40:00 PM
Well crap. Wanted the Hassleback "we want the ball and we're gonna score gif," but apparently I don't know how to link it properly.

(https://c.tenor.com/aoIClacp3R8AAAAC/whoops-we-want-the-ball.gif)
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: Pakuni on January 16, 2022, 02:48:56 PM

I actually was done.  Planted my victory flag and moved on in glory long ago.  I just think its funny that "Ballrogs" thinks he called me out for not acknowledging something I did actually acknowledge....repeatedly.

Gotta be kind of embarrassing for him actually.  Hope he can "save face - at least what is left of it."

Disagree. This is far from settled.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 16, 2022, 02:54:02 PM
Disagree. This is far from settled.


(https://media.giphy.com/media/OBuyIUMHO6yVq/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: forgetful on January 16, 2022, 02:54:51 PM
(https://c.tenor.com/aoIClacp3R8AAAAC/whoops-we-want-the-ball.gif)

Thanks. Still one of my favorite sports moments.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 16, 2022, 03:40:22 PM
I would PM Fluffy and get his opinion.






Nah, jesmu84 instead, he knows all things covid, hey?
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: willie warrior on January 16, 2022, 05:14:56 PM
I think with another 30-40 posts, you guys might be able to reach a consensus on this.
We did. It was either not a foul on Elliot or not a foul on Aiken.
Title: Re: Foul at the end
Post by: 94Warrior on January 17, 2022, 02:35:16 PM
We did. It was either not a foul on Elliot or not a foul on Aiken.

And,

The missed call of Aiken’s arm grab on Elliott = MU not getting screwed.

The foul called on Aiken with Elliott jumping into him a second after the arm grab = SHU getting screwed.

SHU getting a ‘do over’ after taking 10 steps on the baseline = MU not getting screwed.

That was a bad 3 seconds for the zebras, with 2 of the 3 calls going against MU.  But The Hall got screwed!!!!  Makes sense.  👌