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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MuggsyB on January 11, 2022, 08:10:57 PM
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It's stupid and serves no purpose whatsoever. Get rid of it.
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Very entertaining.
Do it every game
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Why did this need a new thread?
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Disagree. I think with some adjustments it could be better. The main issue is Stubblefield was terrible.
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Why did this need a new thread?
Because it's an important discussion.
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Why did this need a new thread?
Muggsy's specialty.
It improved after they stopped having them both yell in concert. Didn't miss the ads.
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It was chaotic and stressful and I loved it. Give me a dual broadcast so I can just listen to my guys.
I want the video of Shaka asking why we're the only ones called for touch fouls
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Didn’t love it. But not brutal.
I hate the 3/4 screen and both coaches talking at the same time. So if they tweaked that a bit it’d be way better.
It’s interesting for a game though.
I’d absolutely not want it for any sort of big time game tho DePaul was a good game for it. Nova or SHU? No thanks.
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There should have at least been an alternate way to view the game normally. I thought there were some good moments in the broadcast from both coaches…none of which occurred during gameplay though.
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There should have at least been an alternate way to view the game normally. I thought there were some good moments in the broadcast from both coaches…none of which occurred during gameplay though.
Agreed.
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The production values in the past were better when they alternated the coach’s . both at the same time is too much.
I enjoy this format as a special event. The true personality of the coaches really stands out .
I loved seeing Shaka work the refs. Stubblefield channeled his inner Wojo
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My audio was in and out.
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The production values in the past were better when they alternated the coach’s . both at the same time is too much.
I enjoy this format as a special event. The true personality of the coaches really stands out .
I loved seeing Shaka work the refs. Stubblefield channeled his inner Wojo
You should be able to turn it off Herman. if people really want to watch coaches and not the game? Well....we live in a free country.
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Loved the locker room portions
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You should be able to turn it off Herman. if people really want to watch coaches and not the game? Well....we live in a free country.
To me this format is like McRib or Shamrock Shakes. Not a staple but a special event.
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Sucked like a Wojo inbounds play…
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There should have at least been an alternate way to view the game normally. I thought there were some good moments in the broadcast from both coaches…none of which occurred during gameplay though.
I thought it was really cool from a never before seen perspective. I’m usually very tuned into the game, but this time was even more so and I love that.
I think most of that attention getter, and far and away the best part of the setup, was the timeouts and halftime/postgame look-ins. No commercials is amazing, the more basketball insight the better.
So at the end of the day I think the move is to not actually show the coaches during live play, except during stoppages, but you can still have the audio mic’ed to get their insight, just maybe not the entire time. Then go all-in access during timeouts and HT, postgame. Maybe do it for 1-2 games per BE team per season to give the fans the extra access that they never get.
In the postgame analysis one of the announcers made a comment about Shaka that I think is easy to see during one of these types of broadcasts- the guy just seems to get it. He’s got something special about him that just makes one think Marquette is in great hands
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Loved it. Not for every game, but 1-2 times per season would be great.
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I would like a special MU channel that only shows Shaka during the game, time-outs and locker room. Turns out I don’t really care what the other coach is saying.
I’m sure Fox could pull that together, right?
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It's stupid and serves no purpose whatsoever. Get rid of it.
Fox does it once a year. I was at the game tonight so I didn't see it. I remember the timeouts are excellent. Didn't like the three screens.
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My audio was in and out.
Them's was cuss words,doc.
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To me this format is like McRib or Shamrock Shakes. Not a staple but a special event.
This. Once a year is plenty.
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Information overload for me. Eventually just tuned out the coaches' windows and focused on the game and muted the volume.
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Could’ve had Dicky Simpkins announcing. Huge miss on fox sports part IMO
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They should just mix up DePaul’s opponent’s coach every game. Gives every BE team 2 games just hearing their coach, and it’s always against DePaul. And there are no DePaul fans, so they don’t miss out on hearing their own coach.
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Loved it when they were focused on one coach at a time. Both of them talking over each other didn't work. But as others have said, I only want it once a year.
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There were a few interesting moments. When Stubblefield told his team in the first half that they were on pace to give up 100 points, it cracked me up. A few other snippets.
But I came away thinking it was just too much. I wanted to see the action on my full screen, not have those two coaches taking up 40% of the screen, yammering away simultaneously, just about the whole game. Some of the time-out stuff was OK, but they were mostly filled with cliches and jargon, and then the play-by-play guy would translate it for the masses.
Had it been a close game that resulted in 5 time-outs being called in the final minute, and we had to listen to the cliches being yelled over and over and over again, it would have been borderline unbearable IMHO ... so thanks to Morsell and Elliott for making it a laugher with plenty of time to spare.
Agree with all those who say that if they're gonna do this, it would be nice to offer a "regular" feed, too.
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I enjoyed it, especially hearing Shaka really coaching during the TO's. Felt bad for the DePaul players, they were getting very little useful advice during their timeouts... much like what we saw in the past from MU's previous coach.
I wonder how this would work in a close game with an out of bounds play and a few seconds left... would we (and the other team) get to see and hear the play as it's drawn up?
i would imagine there's some delay because I think the few times the audio cut-out was elimination of some words not suitable for prime time... Can anyone confirm this?
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I want KO to come back just so he could do a game like this.
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I want KO to come back just so he could do a game like this.
That would be too cruel to the guy who is in charge of the bleeping button.
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DePaul is entrenched in the basement of the Big East for as long as Stubblefield is coach. The guy has literally nothing to say. His players were just glossed over during timeouts all game long. Screaming "blue, blue", and "Guys, guys" "Listen up", and then proceeding to say nothing does not inspire confidence. Another poor hire by DePaul, how do they do it?
Shaka is impressive, and we are lucky to have him. The team is engaged, he is inspiring, we are in great hands. I really enjoyed listening to him. He challenges guys, and demands ownership.
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I was at the game so I am watching the recording now and am enjoying it.
I’m pretty much focusing on the Shaka and ignoring the game though since I was there. I could see it being annoying while trying the follow the game live.
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Sucked like a Wojo inbounds play…
+1
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I really liked it, probably because I grew up around that kind of environment but I can understand why people didn’t.
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I got a sore throat listening to those guys.
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I got a sore throat listening to those guys.
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Omicron
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Omicron
but, but, I wore a mask!
(Joking, just joking, no reason for anyone to get fired-up.)
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That would be too cruel to the guy who is in charge of the bleeping button.
2:30 of pure silence e or the bleep button.
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I like it 'cuz it keeps us safe from covid, hey?
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Hands down the best way to watch a game. Audio of one coach at a time would make sense. I used to coach a bit of HS ball, and have a number of friends (mostly Badger fans...3 that played D1...1 for the Badgers). They all watched this game...they all loved it. Everyone impressed with Shaka.
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Coach Lombardi used to argue that on game day, he was the most useless guy on the field.
If last night was any indication, I understand why. The coaches spent their evening yelling motivational yarns at their players. Maybe because we played so well in the second half, but they did not have to plan strategy or tactics. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see it.
With Stubblefield, it may be less that he's a bad coach and more that he does not have a lot of respect for most of his team. He's rebuilding and has some work to do tto get "his" kind of players at DePaul.
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I liked it. Would not want it every game but it was a nice change. And interesting to hear Shaka in the huddles. The odd thing is hearing them yell the entire game. How much do players even hear them and how much to they do what he is yelling?
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That would be too cruel to the guy who is in charge of the bleeping button.
I remember when Kevin went to USC. Had an acquaintance that had USC basketball tickets near the team bench. Told him not to bring any of his young nieces and nephews to the games. He said, I've heard it all. After the first game, he came back and said "Holy *&%&*^%, I didn't think anyone could swear that much. He swore more than he breathed."
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I would have preferred hearing selected portions of what the coaches were saying rather than everything. Partial access rather than all access. Some judicious editing would have made it easier to listen to. No need at all for split screen during the game. Voices alone is all that is needed (except half time/locker rooms of course). At least Fox does not conduct rambling interviews on split screens with guest athletes while the game is in progress like ESPN does. I hate that!
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If the choice is limited announcers and no commercials vs full-go announcers AND commercials? I'm picking no commercials 100% of the time.
I thought it was a neat format and a cool change of pace relative to a "normal" broadcast. Maybe it would wear thin if I watched it night in and night out. Bear in mind I though the Bill Walton commentary was fantastic, probably because I'd never heard him do a game before. I understand Walton's schtick wears out if you have to listen to him for more than a game or two, so this might be like that.
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I agree with most here that I thought it was cool for a Tuesday game vs DePaul in January, but wouldn't want it all the time. I also thought it was too much to have both coaches yelling over each other for in game action. Maybe next time only have the mic on for the coach on offense in the first half and on defense in the second? Or go all one team and switch each commercial break or something.
Also a dumb question I had - is it normal for a coach at the D-1 college level to be calling out his team's defense every possession? Blue and Black were clearly for DePaul's zone vs man, and Stubblefield was yelling one out every time Marquette had the ball. I totally get coaching the guys on when to switch defensive schemes, but I don't know that I recalled seeing a coach screaming out the defense on the fly every possession like that.
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You should be able to turn it off Herman. if people really want to watch coaches and not the game? Well....we live in a free country.
Fox is a private business.....
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Also a dumb question I had - is it normal for a coach at the D-1 college level to be calling out his team's defense every possession? Blue and Black were clearly for DePaul's zone vs man, and Stubblefield was yelling one out every time Marquette had the ball. I totally get coaching the guys on when to switch defensive schemes, but I don't know that I recalled seeing a coach screaming out the defense on the fly every possession like that.
Kids do need to be reminded all the time, but agree that it seemed way more than necessary. And these aren't middle-schoolers, they're men. It's not as if he was yelling out one of a dozen different looks. They only had a couple. Put it this way: You didn't hear anything similar from the Marquette bench.
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If last night was any indication, I understand why. The coaches spent their evening yelling motivational yarns at their players. Maybe because we played so well in the second half, but they did not have to plan strategy or tactics. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see it.
I think fans have a romanticized idea about what coaching is. They think that coaching is very strategic Xs and Os and the coaches telling player exactly what to do each possession and the players executing it. I think there are coaches that try that but it causes most players to play rigid because they are more worried about remembering and executing the plan than they are about playing the game.
Great coaches establish a culture and allow their players to play within that culture, they make the game simple for their players rather than more complicated. What I saw Shaka doing was strategy and tactics just not of the Xs and Os variety. He consistently reminded the players of how Marquette basketball is supposed to play and pointed out the little adjustments they needed to make to stay on culture. I enjoyed seeing the players chime in as much as they did because it tells me that they understand Shaka's vision to the point that they can coach each other.
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I would like a special MU channel that only shows Shaka during the game, time-outs and locker room. Turns out I don’t really care what the other coach is saying.
I’m sure Fox could pull that together, right?
It might be the wave of the future where you can subscribe to get all the games of your favorite team.
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It might be the wave of the future where you can subscribe to get all the games of your favorite team.
I'd like this utopian world
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I think fans have a romanticized idea about what coaching is. They think that coaching is very strategic Xs and Os and the coaches telling player exactly what to do each possession and the players executing it. I think there are coaches that try that but it causes most players to play rigid because they are more worried about remembering and executing the plan than they are about playing the game.
Great coaches establish a culture and allow their players to play within that culture, they make the game simple for their players rather than more complicated. What I saw Shaka doing was strategy and tactics just not of the Xs and Os variety. He consistently reminded the players of how Marquette basketball is supposed to play and pointed out the little adjustments they needed to make to stay on culture. I enjoyed seeing the players chime in as much as they did because it tells me that they understand Shaka's vision to the point that they can coach each other.
The first paragraph is why Crean has struggled. Run a zillion sets and call out four of them in a possession.
Spot on on the second point. It was rooted in Xs and Os, but distilled to a feel level. They're in a zone, get in the action faster. Make cuts off the high post/elbow catch. They're cutting across face up to the passer, block the cut off. Easily digestible for the guys.
Twice the players more or less took over the clipboard in huddles. Kolek, and I forget who else (Oso?). Pointing out what the defense was doing, and how they wanted guys to move to exploit it. That's really good stuff.
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I think fans have a romanticized idea about what coaching is. They think that coaching is very strategic Xs and Os and the coaches telling player exactly what to do each possession and the players executing it. I think there are coaches that try that but it causes most players to play rigid because they are more worried about remembering and executing the plan than they are about playing the game.
Great coaches establish a culture and allow their players to play within that culture, they make the game simple for their players rather than more complicated. What I saw Shaka doing was strategy and tactics just not of the Xs and Os variety. He consistently reminded the players of how Marquette basketball is supposed to play and pointed out the little adjustments they needed to make to stay on culture. I enjoyed seeing the players chime in as much as they did because it tells me that they understand Shaka's vision to the point that they can coach each other.
Absolutely, to all of that.
Most coaching is done in practice. If players don't "get it" by the opening tip, it's probably too late. The coaches whose teams are great at inbounds plays ... those are designed and rehearsed through hours and hours and hours of practice; they aren't just cooked up on the fly. There's no "hey, let's run the picket fence" out of thin air.
After a team loses a game they "should have won" against an inferior opponent, we'll hear fans say stuff like, "Didn't they know how important that was?" Of course they knew. But most coaches don't emphasize that kind of macro view during a game. They coach in the moment. To yell "This game is crucial! We HAVE to make a play here!" at players would be counterproductive.
One thing I really like that Shaka did was, when we were really getting killed in the rebounding dept, he emphasized: "All 5 have to hit the defensive boards! All 5!" In other words, don't drift out, hoping to get a home-run pass; get your arse in there and rebound, even if you're a guard who was defending on the perimeter. Yes, they practice all 5 rebounding constantly, but in the action, it's easy to find oneself just watching others battle.
And like you, I LOVED that he gave several players a voice during cuddles.
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I think fans have a romanticized idea about what coaching is. They think that coaching is very strategic Xs and Os and the coaches telling player exactly what to do each possession and the players executing it. I think there are coaches that try that but it causes most players to play rigid because they are more worried about remembering and executing the plan than they are about playing the game.
Great coaches establish a culture and allow their players to play within that culture, they make the game simple for their players rather than more complicated. What I saw Shaka doing was strategy and tactics just not of the Xs and Os variety. He consistently reminded the players of how Marquette basketball is supposed to play and pointed out the little adjustments they needed to make to stay on culture. I enjoyed seeing the players chime in as much as they did because it tells me that they understand Shaka's vision to the point that they can coach each other.
I think it is also a contrast to how football coaches operate. They call specific plays on every possession because that's what football is. That's not what basketball is, which is best played more "free form" with various principles in place.
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Absolutely, to all of that.
Most coaching is done in practice. If players don't "get it" by the opening tip, it's probably too late. The coaches whose teams are great at inbounds plays ... those are designed and rehearsed through hours and hours and hours of practice; they aren't just cooked up on the fly. There's no "hey, let's run the picket fence" out of thin air.
After a team loses a game they "should have won" against an inferior opponent, we'll hear fans say stuff like, "Didn't they know how important that was?" Of course they knew. But most coaches don't emphasize that kind of macro view during a game. They coach in the moment. To yell "This game is crucial! We HAVE to make a play here!" at players would be counterproductive.
One thing I really like that Shaka did was, when we were really getting killed in the rebounding dept, he emphasized: "All 5 have to hit the defensive boards! All 5!" In other words, don't drift out, hoping to get a home-run pass; get your arse in there and rebound, even if you're a guard who was defending on the perimeter. Yes, they practice all 5 rebounding constantly, but in the action, it's easy to find oneself just watching others battle.
And like you, I LOVED that he gave several players a voice during cuddles.
IMHO...you are vastly underestimating in-game coaching, half-time adjustments, situational split-second decisions, etc.
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I think it is also a contrast to how football coaches operate. They call specific plays on every possession because that's what football is. That's not what basketball is, which is best played more "free form" with various principles in place.
I think a Crean or definitely Majerus got more into playing calling in the huddles. I also think that Fox would cut away often last night when the coaches started drawing up a play. It seemed that every time Shaka grabbed his board last night they switched to the DePaul huddle. Also, they ran commercials at half while teams went over adjustments and just showed the rah rah recap parts by the head coaches. I also noticed the assistant coaches doing 1:1 nuanced teaching after the head coaches spoke.
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My final takes:
- I really liked it and would be perfectly happy to see it two or three times per season
- Like pretty much everyone else, I think hearing both coaches during play was a bit much...I'd prefer it if they just did one at a time
- Unlike some others, I liked the split screen. I enjoyed watching the coaches as much as I enjoyed listening to them...maybe more
- The timeouts and the halftime were the best part (aside from the cut to the team dancing which was the best part)
- I liked the way that Shaka talks to the team and, like someone else said, I liked the way he let them talk to each other
- Every now and then Stubblefield would seem to start to say something specific and then just drop it mid-sentence. On one TO he started several different specific statements and didn't finish any of the thoughts and eventually just fell into vague comments. it must be frustrating for his guys.
- Favorite Shaka comment: "The math is simple. If they don't score, they won't defend."
- Favorite Stubblefield comment: "Blue blue. No...regular blue." I know what he was saying, but it cracked me up.
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IMHO...you are vastly underestimating in-game coaching, half-time adjustments, situational split-second decisions, etc.
We'll respectfully agree to disagree that I am vastly underestimating those things at all.
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My final takes:
Favorite Stubblefield comment: "Blue blue. No...regular blue." I know what he was saying, but it cracked me up.
I'm imagining him really stressing employees out at Sherwyn Williams
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Did anyone else catch the time (at some point in the second half) when Stubblefield called a timeout, then as he sat down in front of his players, he turned over his shoulder and asked an assistant "who has the ball?" and then "where?" (as in where with they be throwing in from)? If I'm correct that that is what was going on, well, wow.
If someone has the game recorded, I see from ESPN's play-by-play that DePaul called a timeout with 4:50 remaining. That might be a place to check.
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People commenting on the guys being vocal during timeouts... I'm 99% sure that there was a postgame interview that Fanta did with Kolek where Kolek said something along the lines of how Shaka wants the players to take charge of the beginning of timeouts. Watch almost every time out, Shaka walks out from the bench/huddle, says something to the refs or consults w/ the assistants, and only after a chunk of time goes back in and takes his seat at the center of the huddle. I'm pretty sure, by design, he's giving space to the team to become leaders among themselves and trying to foster an environment where you get things like when Kolek was calling out opportunities he saw in the game.
I don't have any basketball coaching experience, but I'm extremely impressed by the cultural environment that creates situations for guys to take ownership of the game and to have the space to voice those opinions. It strikes me as a fantastic leadership environment and I can see it paying serious dividends both down the line in the program, later this season, and already (given our improvement now vs SIU-E)
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The first paragraph is why Crean has struggled. Run a zillion sets and call out four of them in a possession.
Spot on on the second point. It was rooted in Xs and Os, but distilled to a feel level. They're in a zone, get in the action faster. Make cuts off the high post/elbow catch. They're cutting across face up to the passer, block the cut off. Easily digestible for the guys.
Twice the players more or less took over the clipboard in huddles. Kolek, and I forget who else (Oso?). Pointing out what the defense was doing, and how they wanted guys to move to exploit it. That's really good stuff.
Greg, Oso, and Kolek all had points of taking charge in the huddles when the cameras were on. Lots of ownership on this team. Gives you a lot of insight on what Shaka means when he says "play for each other."
Loved Greg's presser after too--the guys are rooting for each other and buying in that making everyone better is the way to win. Greg was AMPED that Tyler got 10 dimes last night (said he told Tyler before teh game they were gonna get him 10). And the passing certainly looks contagious all of a sudden (Greg with 5 dimes, Kam and Stevie with some great passes--even Kur had a good one that TKo just didn't finish).
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Did anyone else catch the time (at some point in the second half) when Stubblefield called a timeout, then as he sat down in front of his players, he turned over his shoulder and asked an assistant "who has the ball?" and then "where?" (as in where with they be throwing in from)? If I'm correct that that is what was going on, well, wow.
If someone has the game recorded, I see from ESPN's play-by-play that DePaul called a timeout with 4:50 remaining. That might be a place to check.
He 100% said that. I believe it was after the foul when he tried to call TO but couldn't.
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I'd like this utopian world
I don't think I would. Reminds me of how people used to want their cable packages ala carte because they didn't like paying for channels they never watched. Well, now you have to pay for ESPN, Netflix, Prime, Hulu, HBOMax, Showtime, Peacock, Paramount, etc etc etc. Instead of saving money, you end up spending more because the batched content is so small. If we got team-only subscriptions, before long you would have to subscribe to every team and suddenly you couldn't tune in to Alabama/Auburn on a Tuesday unless you subscribe to one of the teams.
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I don't think I would. Reminds me of how people used to want their cable packages ala carte because they didn't like paying for channels they never watched. Well, now you have to pay for ESPN, Netflix, Prime, Hulu, HBOMax, Showtime, Peacock, Paramount, etc etc etc. Instead of saving money, you end up spending more because the batched content is so small. If we got team-only subscriptions, before long you would have to subscribe to every team and suddenly you couldn't tune in to Alabama/Auburn on a Tuesday unless you subscribe to one of the teams.
Agree. There is definitely an economy of scale with these packages.
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People commenting on the guys being vocal during timeouts... I'm 99% sure that there was a postgame interview that Fanta did with Kolek where Kolek said something along the lines of how Shaka wants the players to take charge of the beginning of timeouts. Watch almost every time out, Shaka walks out from the bench/huddle, says something to the refs or consults w/ the assistants, and only after a chunk of time goes back in and takes his seat at the center of the huddle. I'm pretty sure, by design, he's giving space to the team to become leaders among themselves and trying to foster an environment where you get things like when Kolek was calling out opportunities he saw in the game.
I don't have any basketball coaching experience, but I'm extremely impressed by the cultural environment that creates situations for guys to take ownership of the game and to have the space to voice those opinions. It strikes me as a fantastic leadership environment and I can see it paying serious dividends both down the line in the program, later this season, and already (given our improvement now vs SIU-E)
Great point about letting the guys take ownership instead of a "I talk, you listen!" approach 100% of the time. I founded a small manufacturing company and when I challenged my employees take ownership of production, productivity improved and everyone was happier, having had a say. My guess is that our team, like my employees, become their own critics and know what they need to do. The contrast between Shaka's and Stubblefield's approach was dramatic.
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People commenting on the guys being vocal during timeouts... I'm 99% sure that there was a postgame interview that Fanta did with Kolek where Kolek said something along the lines of how Shaka wants the players to take charge of the beginning of timeouts. Watch almost every time out, Shaka walks out from the bench/huddle, says something to the refs or consults w/ the assistants, and only after a chunk of time goes back in and takes his seat at the center of the huddle. I'm pretty sure, by design, he's giving space to the team to become leaders among themselves and trying to foster an environment where you get things like when Kolek was calling out opportunities he saw in the game.
I don't have any basketball coaching experience, but I'm extremely impressed by the cultural environment that creates situations for guys to take ownership of the game and to have the space to voice those opinions. It strikes me as a fantastic leadership environment and I can see it paying serious dividends both down the line in the program, later this season, and already (given our improvement now vs SIU-E)
Every coach seems to do this in one way or another. Watch just about any game, and as they go to a timeout, coaches huddle briefly, as players are brought chairs, sit down and are given water. Gotta believe that players are talking to each other then. Then the coaches break up their little huddle and the head coach sits down with the players.
This is not to say that Shaka's style of listening and encouraging players to speak up is not valuable, just that those few moments with other coaches before sitting is not so unique.
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Did not enjoy. I liked a few aspects like the huddle and locker room bits but I could go without it. Honestly don't need to listen to that (especially hearing BLUE yelled 300 times) and feel it's maybe better left private between the teams and coaches.
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I don't think I would. Reminds me of how people used to want their cable packages ala carte because they didn't like paying for channels they never watched. Well, now you have to pay for ESPN, Netflix, Prime, Hulu, HBOMax, Showtime, Peacock, Paramount, etc etc etc. Instead of saving money, you end up spending more because the batched content is so small. If we got team-only subscriptions, before long you would have to subscribe to every team and suddenly you couldn't tune in to Alabama/Auburn on a Tuesday unless you subscribe to one of the teams.
You have a great point about the content platforms but with sports I think it's a bit different. I'm not saying destroy ESPN or FS1 but I don't watch sports talk shows so I think there's a demographic that'd pay for the Marquette (or Big East package. Any other sport I watch (rugby, GAA, Boxing) I'm already paying for streaming services anyways.
The scenario you provide, correct me if I'm wrong, assumes that Marquette wouldn't be available and then you'd have to pay for another package and another package till it's like you had cable anyways. Right?
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The scenario you provide, correct me if I'm wrong, assumes that Marquette wouldn't be available and then you'd have to pay for another package and another package till it's like you had cable anyways. Right?
Yes, I feel like they would find ways to give us less content for a higher price, which is basically what happens with cutting the cable. A number of shows I used to be able to get through my cable package now require an extra subscription, and when it's one NBC show, one Paramount show, one ABC show, suddenly I have to pay three subscription fees to watch three shows that used to be all under one subscription umbrella. Guessing they would do the same with sports, allowing you to subscribe to each team, say $2.99/month per team, or $7.99 for an entire league, or $99.99 for all the CBB games you want, and suddenly you're paying way more than you did in the past.
If there's one thing companies are great at, it's convincing us to ask for less and less while charging more and more.
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This should be an alternative feed on fox sports go. I'd occasionally watch, but prefer traditional.
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This should be an alternative feed on fox sports go. I'd occasionally watch, but prefer traditional.
I can’t imagine that coaches would go for this as a regular thing. Shaka, in his post-game comments to the team, seemed to acknowledge the awkwardness of the cameras, and I’m guessing that he somehow tempered his behavior or language in some ways due to the microphone.
I sure hope that Stubblefield’s “advisors” are telling him to avoid participating in all-access games from here on out.
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I liked listening on the time out talks. At times it was hard to understand what was being said because of the background noise. The audio system needs to be corrected to cit down the crowd noise.
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I liked listening on the time out talks. At times it was hard to understand what was being said because of the background noise. The audio system needs to be corrected to cit down the crowd noise.
This. During one segment you heard the team happy birthday video on the jumbotron clearer than the timeout
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This should be an alternative feed on fox sports go. I'd occasionally watch, but prefer traditional.
Chicos?
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The fact that this thread pivoted into an analysis of Shaka's coaching style and culture-building with the team proves that the all-access format has some merit. Some room for improvement as others have pointed out, and not as an everyday thing. But there was a lot more to take away from a Tuesday night DePaul game than there ever would've been otherwise and that says something. I approve.
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I was okay with it. It was cool to see how a full timeout operates.
One of my favorite moments was listening to Kolek talk to the team. Explaining how DePaul was lazy on screens and if that happens again he was going to drive to the basket and him telling Kur to just follow him down the lane. Another example of Kolek's high basketball IQ.
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My final takes:
- Favorite Stubblefield comment: "Blue blue. No...regular blue." I know what he was saying, but it cracked me up.
Haha—yes. For a stretch there Stubby said “blue blue” about 15 times in a row.
He has offensive and defensive sets both named “Blue Blue” Cmon.
What was most apparent to me was how much of a better coach Shaka is than Stubby. [/list]
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We all continue to mock (even in other threads) Stubblefield for how he looked on all-access. Anyone know what is being said on any DePaul messages boards? (Yea, yea, I imagine someone will say "the DePaul fan was pretty embarrassed but believes that Stubby is the one to wake the sleeping giant.")
I'm genuinely curious if others see his "performance" as we do (in part because I think what The Equalizer said in another thread about how it may have gone differently if the game had been different).
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Anyone know what is being said on any DePaul messages boards?
Are there enough DePaul fans that care enough to still post on a message board?
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Are there enough DePaul fans that care enough to still post on a message board?
There's actually a couple on their 247 board though I believe a Nova fan runs it
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While it's easy to criticize Stubblefield, he is a first year coach finding his way. It's a lot different sitting next to Dana Altman as opposed to doing it yourself. Who knows where DePaul will be in 5 years, but I'm not ruling him out because he didn't impress me in his first mic'd up.
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There's actually a couple on their 247 board though I believe a Nova fan runs it
I really, really like college basketball. I simply cannot fathom liking college basketball so much that I'd be willing to run a DePaul basketball message board.
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I really, really like college basketball. I simply cannot fathom liking college basketball so much that I'd be willing to run a DePaul basketball message board.
OK. How about running a No Dick basketball message board?
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While it's easy to criticize Stubblefield, he is a first year coach finding his way. It's a lot different sitting next to Dana Altman as opposed to doing it yourself. Who knows where DePaul will be in 5 years, but I'm not ruling him out because he didn't impress me in his first mic'd up.
Stop with the reasonableness, brewski.