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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Room510 on December 23, 2021, 07:05:15 AM

Title: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Room510 on December 23, 2021, 07:05:15 AM
TJO has this team at 12-0 with wins over Xavier, Creighton and Iowa.  Following a 2-22 season last year and a rebuilt roster this year.  I don't think he was given any serious hiring consideration by MU this spring (other than mentions by a couple of scoopers)

How is he doing it ?  Is he really that good, just lucky, or something else ? 

Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 23, 2021, 07:26:00 AM
He's was very active in the transfer market.  And he's a good coach.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: 🏀 on December 23, 2021, 07:30:16 AM
Quality coach.

Found transfers to fit the existing infrastructure.

Experienced team.

11th easiest schedule in America.

Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 23, 2021, 07:45:39 AM
Recruited da guard outta Racine who wee kneeded ta get, aina?
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: MUDPT on December 23, 2021, 07:50:51 AM
Another plug for the Goodman Hummel podcast, but he was on last week.  Sounds like an awesome dude.  Nate Oats was on the week before, which was another great interview and gave lots of insight on what Marquette is trying to do with their offense.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 23, 2021, 08:00:40 AM
Nate Oats was an assistant during TJO’s senior season at UW-Whitewater.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 23, 2021, 08:09:30 AM
Recruited da guard outta Racine who wee kneeded ta get, aina?

Hard to believe Marquette didn’t recruit him.  I heard it was his dream school but didn’t want to come because it’s too dangerous
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 23, 2021, 08:29:08 AM
Glad ur finally startin' two komprihend, hey?
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: cheebs09 on December 23, 2021, 08:31:58 AM
TJO has this team at 12-0 with wins over Xavier, Creighton and Iowa.  Following a 2-22 season last year and a rebuilt roster this year.  I don't think he was given any serious hiring consideration by MU this spring (other than mentions by a couple of scoopers)

How is he doing it ?  Is he really that good, just lucky, or something else ?

TJO was hired at ISU the day before we fired Wojo. Although, maybe he loves ISU after his time there and would have picked ISU no matter the timing.

I think some were underwhelmed by his time at UNLV. Also, wondering how much of his South Dakota State success was due to Mike Daum.

I would have been excited if we hired him. I’m very excited with Shaka though.

Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: The Lens on December 23, 2021, 08:48:09 AM
TJO works the edges a little too much for MU and probably a little too much for the Big East (except Creighton). He’s going to do great at Iowa State.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: TedBaxter on December 23, 2021, 09:55:22 AM
Hard to believe Marquette didn’t recruit him.  I heard it was his dream school but didn’t want to come because it’s too dangerous

I almost read into your post that Marquette didn't recruit Hunter hard.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 23, 2021, 10:07:30 AM
I almost read into your post that Marquette didn't recruit Hunter hard.

Rico does teal without using teal.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 23, 2021, 10:12:23 AM
Rico does teal without using teal.

Only Grayson McCall pisses teal
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: The Lens on December 23, 2021, 10:37:55 AM
Rico does teal without using teal.

The great ones don't need teal.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: JWags85 on December 23, 2021, 10:43:12 AM
Gonna get a real chance to see what he and ISU are all about in the next month.  Baylor, TTU twice, Texas, Kansas, and Oklahoma all within the first 3 weeks of Jan.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: MU82 on December 23, 2021, 10:49:42 AM
The great ones don't need teal.

Thanks!
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 23, 2021, 10:59:11 AM
(https://digitalmarquette.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/api/singleitem/image/p16280coll1/1186/default.jpg)
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: erubiel on December 23, 2021, 11:05:12 AM
Great photo. I had completwly forgotten about Hoy Ping.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: SaveOD238 on December 23, 2021, 11:53:47 AM
Hard to believe Marquette didn’t recruit him.  I heard it was his dream school but didn’t want to come because it’s too dangerous

Marquette DID recruit Hunter.  And Tyrese said it to my face that Marquette was where he wanted to be (in the fall of 2019).

Then COVID hit.  His recruiting stock kept rising.  I never had a chance to talk to Tyrese again about his recruitment, but I got the sense from his friends that something changed in the relationship between him and Wojo/staff.  Don't know what, but I mentioned (in spring 2021) wishing Tyrese had picked Marquette and his friends laughed at me for thinking he would even think about considering us again.

I love that kid, because he's a decent young man and I've seen him mature a ton.  Plus he's a helluva basketball player.  I really would love to have seen in blue and gold.  But it ain't happening.  Wojo pissed him off and he hasn't forgotten it.  That's how kids are.

On the other hand, y'all need to GET OVER IT.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Jockey on December 23, 2021, 12:07:17 PM
Hard to believe Marquette didn’t recruit him.  I heard it was his dream school but didn’t want to come because it’s too dangerous

His high school is within blocks of a neighborhood that is basically 'gang central' in Racine. So I doubt that was a factor.

IMO, Wojo is the reason he isn't at MU.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 23, 2021, 12:51:32 PM
Eye blame Woj, hey?
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: mileskishnish72 on December 23, 2021, 02:12:06 PM
Great photo. I had completwly forgotten about Hoy Ping.

I used to eat at Hoy Ping a lot. Many times over the years in MKE I'd run out of money before the month was finished. They fed me on credit and weren't very particular about what I owed them when the new month arrived and I had some funds.When I graduated (and had some cash), I stopped in on my way out of MKE to try to give them a present, and they wouldn't take it. I finally got them to take it for the kids. Before I got out of there there were some moist eyes. Beautiful people.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: MUDPT on December 23, 2021, 02:40:50 PM
Nate Oats was an assistant during TJO’s senior season at UW-Whitewater.

TJO said on the pod that Oats came the spring that he was graduating, so they didn't interact much?
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 23, 2021, 03:09:05 PM
TJO used to be really good at organizing softball teams back in the day. 
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Tums Festival on December 23, 2021, 04:19:22 PM
What's the point of this thread?

Some newbie poster is turning against the current coach after 13 games because another new coach at another school has a better record?

Why hasn't the school hired Mark Few and/or Jay Wright?
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Phuket MU Fan on December 23, 2021, 05:49:22 PM
What's the point of this thread?

Some newbie poster is turning against the current coach after 13 games because another new coach at another school has a better record?

Why hasn't the school hired Mark Few and/or Jay Wright?

Ban all people with less than 100 posts. Put people with 100 to 1000 posts on super secret probation. That will solve the problem!
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 23, 2021, 05:57:46 PM
Guess yuled bee on ssp, aina?
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Don_Kojis on December 23, 2021, 06:45:26 PM
TJO was named coach at UWM and was bringing his wife to a press conference when the AD at UWM called him and told him they couldn't hire him and was going to hire
Baldwin instead.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: MU82 on December 23, 2021, 06:57:41 PM
If we hired him, and he brought in one of our former stud players as an assistant ... whattayaknow, we'da gone from Wojo to TJO and DJO.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: blue and gold on December 23, 2021, 07:07:17 PM
TJO was named coach at UWM and was bringing his wife to a press conference when the AD at UWM called him and told him they couldn't hire him and was going to hire
Baldwin instead.

The AD at UWM offered the head coaching job at UWM in 2016 and TJO accepted but the Chancellor at UWM vetoed the AD on hiring TJO. 

After the AD's first choice was was vetoed by the Chancellor, UWM hired LaVall Jordan who coached at UWM for 1 season before leaving in June, 2017 to Butler.

After LaVall Jordan, UWM hired Pat Baldwin who currently has a record of 50-78 at UWM.


Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: tower912 on December 29, 2021, 04:15:35 PM
Just picked up a transfer from Georgetown.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on December 29, 2021, 04:29:06 PM
The AD at UWM offered the head coaching job at UWM in 2016 and TJO accepted but the Chancellor at UWM vetoed the AD on hiring TJO. 

After the AD's first choice was was vetoed by the Chancellor, UWM hired LaVall Jordan who coached at UWM for 1 season before leaving in June, 2017 to Butler.

After LaVall Jordan, UWM hired Pat Baldwin who currently has a record of 50-78 at UWM.

Reminds me of UWGB wanting to hire Greg Gard, but the UW system requires that all jobs are posted for a minimum of two weeks.

After going through applications and interviews, they pivoted to Linc Darner instead.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 29, 2021, 04:44:30 PM
Reminds me of UWGB wanting to hire Greg Gard, but the UW system requires that all jobs are posted for a minimum of two weeks.

After going through applications and interviews, they pivoted to Linc Darner instead.

I don't think that is quite accurate.  I think Gard was in the mix for the UWGB job when Wardle got it due to them publicly interviewing finalists because of how they managed the search.

Gard was pretty much already the coach in waiting in Madison when they hired Darner.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: dad's couch on December 29, 2021, 05:01:20 PM

IMO, Wojo is the reason he isn't at MU.
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Or that DJ Carton was going to be the incumbent. At IA State he would be the starter from day 1.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 29, 2021, 10:38:15 PM
TJO works the edges a little too much for MU and probably a little too much for the Big East (except Creighton). He’s going to do great at Iowa State.

Every successful coach Marquette has ever had “worked the edges”. TBH, just about every successful CBB coach in my lifetime has worked the edges. Lots of unsuccessful ones, too - it’s where a lot of the best players can be found.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: Room510 on January 02, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
Iowa St lost by 5 to Baylor same day MU lost to Creighton by 5. iowa St also beat Creighton on the road in December.  Just Sayin.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: panda on January 02, 2022, 07:53:33 PM
Iowa St lost by 5 to Baylor same day MU lost to Creighton by 5. iowa St also beat Creighton on the road in December.  Just Sayin.

ISU was never in the game. final score line much closer than the actual contest.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 02, 2022, 07:59:57 PM
Iowa St lost by 5 to Baylor same day MU lost to Creighton by 5. iowa St also beat Creighton on the road in December.  Just Sayin.


So?  Iowa State is better than MU.
Title: Re: TJ Otzelberger - Iowa St,
Post by: panda on January 02, 2022, 08:04:12 PM
So?  Iowa State is better than MU.

They’re going to get pretty banged up in the B12. They don’t have enough guys who can make a bucket other than Isaiah.