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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: #UnleashSean on November 21, 2021, 06:30:57 PM

Title: Bonnie game thread
Post by: #UnleashSean on November 21, 2021, 06:30:57 PM
High on painkillers, why is there soccer instead of marquette basketball!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 21, 2021, 06:35:23 PM
High on painkillers, why is there soccer instead of marquette basketball!

Because you touch yourself at night.
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Post by: Daniel on November 21, 2021, 06:35:57 PM
Yeah soccer game on

Gane supposed to start at 6:39/central now
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 06:36:04 PM
Because you touch yourself at night.
lol woah
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: #UnleashSean on November 21, 2021, 06:36:06 PM
Because you touch yourself at night.

Only in the shower
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Post by: SERocks on November 21, 2021, 06:39:37 PM
How long are soccer games?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 06:40:32 PM
How long are soccer games?

It’s different every game

Stupid sport
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Boone on November 21, 2021, 06:41:04 PM
One minute of soccer is a minute too long
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 06:49:12 PM
how the hell does it seem like they have way more fans there??? sersly st bonny???
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Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on November 21, 2021, 06:50:26 PM
how the hell does it seem like they have way more fans there??? sersly st bonny???

This is their Super Bowl.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 06:50:40 PM
how the hell does it seem like they have way more fans there??? sersly st bonny???

Apparently they out numbered Clemson even more
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: cheebs09 on November 21, 2021, 06:50:50 PM
how the hell does it seem like they have way more fans there??? sersly st bonny???

This seems to be the year to make a trip like this if you’re a fan of the Bonnies.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 06:51:56 PM
I'll cease posting on the other thread.  My bad.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Newsdreams on November 21, 2021, 06:52:28 PM
JFL!!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 06:53:55 PM
Crazy turn by Kolek.  FOCUS!!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Newsdreams on November 21, 2021, 06:54:27 PM
Kolek should have taken that to the rack they gave it to him
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2021, 06:55:12 PM
MU was actually going to run a play on that ball that Kolek threw away.   
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: #UnleashSean on November 21, 2021, 06:55:43 PM
I'll cease posting on the other thread.  My bad.

I tried to give it to you lol
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 06:55:56 PM
Sweet dish by Oso.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 06:57:09 PM
Some sloppy early turns.  Gotta clean that up.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 06:57:12 PM
Gotta stop giving them break away buckets.

Half court D playing pretty well to start. No easy buckets
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 06:58:30 PM
Sweet Jesus!!  Stop yo-yoing with the rock.  Move the basketball.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: DegenerateDish on November 21, 2021, 06:58:45 PM
Ugh with the turnovers.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 06:59:00 PM
This is a bit MU of old type sloppy.

Gotta settle down
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:00:13 PM
Great to see Greg hit one!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:00:44 PM
BAM!!!  GE hits a three.   That could settle us down. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on November 21, 2021, 07:01:18 PM
I'm not liking this. When are we going to get down 12 and sew up the victory?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:01:43 PM
Love our depth.

But not sure I wanna roll with JL, Morsell and Kolek all on the bench very long.

Nice to have at least 1 of the proven buckets in there.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: #UnleashSean on November 21, 2021, 07:01:56 PM
The young guys have been rough with the turnovers all year so far.

It's actually a great sign that they are competing still with those careless mistakes.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:02:59 PM
Longest time-out ever?
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Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:04:09 PM
Man I hate the charge.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:05:59 PM
A bit out of sorts.  Need Kolek and Morsell to wake up.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:07:18 PM
Not a good stretch there
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 07:07:27 PM
I'm not liking this. When are we going to get down 12 and sew up the victory?
on our way
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: DegenerateDish on November 21, 2021, 07:07:32 PM
I’d go zone for a run here.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2021, 07:07:39 PM
Morsell has not been good tonight. Just need to keep it within 10 this half.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:08:04 PM
Getting outplayed right now.  They're dictating everything on both ends.  Need to increase the energy and play with for more poise and force.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2021, 07:08:10 PM
Man I hate the charge.

That was a bad call. If he had shot the ball, they wouldn't have called a foul despite the defender being in the restricted zone. If you wouldn't call it a block on a shot, you shouldn't call it a charge on the pass.

That was a flop.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2021, 07:08:33 PM
SBU is a well oiled machine.    Patience, keep working, try to wear them down at the end. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:09:49 PM
Morsell gotta be smarter

Dumb shot leads to easy bucket.

Don’t force it to get going
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:11:11 PM
They're quicker in all areas right now and a tough team the pressure.  Our guards are going to have to pick up their play.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2021, 07:11:36 PM
Time to start going to the basket.   Settling for 3's.
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Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:14:32 PM
That's it Kur.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:14:37 PM
Good board by Kur and bucket
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Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:15:19 PM
These guys are good at not fouling.

Finally drew number 3
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:17:39 PM
No reason for JLew to be bringing the ball up coast to coast. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: mu.n8ball on November 21, 2021, 07:17:51 PM
dang. we look like the tired team lacking energy
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on November 21, 2021, 07:19:14 PM
Shooting is atrocious right now
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2021, 07:19:41 PM
MU has 6 made 3's, two 2's and a FT in 17 minutes
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:19:49 PM
Omax has got to learn how to shoot

He’s wide open in the corner all the time and can’t hit it.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: muhoops1 on November 21, 2021, 07:20:58 PM
MU needs to get some three’s up.  Man.  Not enough from behind the arc
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: cheebs09 on November 21, 2021, 07:21:52 PM
Omax has got to learn how to shoot

He’s wide open in the corner all the time and can’t hit it.

Maybe there’s a reason he’s open….

I think Kolek needs to look for his shot more. Still in it despite not hitting much.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: JTJ3 on November 21, 2021, 07:22:02 PM
We're running great offense.  All of our 3s are wide open.  Guys just have to make them.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: #UnleashSean on November 21, 2021, 07:22:22 PM
Shooting poorly, but only down 8. They are getting open 3s, they will eventually fall. Morsell  needs to stop forcing though.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 21, 2021, 07:22:41 PM
We're running great offense.  All of our 3s are wide open.  Guys just have to make them.

This. A few funky possessions, but quality is there
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:22:58 PM
Maybe there’s a reason he’s open….

I think Kolek needs to look for his shot more. Still in it despite not hitting much.

That’s my exact point. He’s gonna keep being left open. He’s gonna have to hit it.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:23:13 PM
Amazing we're only down 6.  The D has been decent except for Lewis being late when he's played the 5.  Morrell and Kolek are completely out of sorts.  DM forcing way too much.  If we can keep it within range you have to think we'll eventually hit some open shots.  Can't expect a whole lot if we get goose eggs from Morsell/Kolek.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:24:10 PM
We're running great offense.  All of our 3s are wide open.  Guys just have to make them.

Ya aside from the sloppy TOs we are not doing a bad job getting good looks. A few forces though.

Gotta get Greg some looks
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:24:39 PM
I thought we were down 6 not 8.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:25:12 PM
Love Stevie long term

Not sure this is the game for him though. This is a freshman half if I’ve ever seen one
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: DJO's Jaw on November 21, 2021, 07:25:23 PM
Stevie has a lot of potential, but he plays so out of control right now
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: DegenerateDish on November 21, 2021, 07:25:44 PM
How’s that not an and 1?
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Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 21, 2021, 07:26:10 PM
OMG, Stevie!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Miss Katie’s on November 21, 2021, 07:26:31 PM
Maybe there’s a reason he’s open….

I think Kolek needs to look for his shot more. Still in it despite not hitting much.

Agreed.  He’s an elite passer, but needs to take his own shot more.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:26:44 PM
The suckfest over at ESPN for the Bonnies is a bit too much. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:27:27 PM
How’s that not an and 1?

I thought it should have been.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 07:29:46 PM
need somthing from morsell
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2021, 07:32:06 PM
need somthing from morsell

0 points 1 rebound from your senior leader won’t translate to a win. He needs to step into his role in the second half
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Judge Smails on November 21, 2021, 07:32:29 PM
We got them right where we want them
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 21, 2021, 07:32:51 PM
Bonnie’s scouted us well. We need to make some adjustments for the second half.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:32:55 PM
I could care less what anyone says, we're better than this team.  25 pts, we're getting nothing from 2 of our 3 best players, can't make open shots, and are kicking the ball away like crazy.  We played a very undisciplined and poor first half and that can happen with a young team.  SBU is experienced and pretty good but don't tell me this is a 2nd week tourney team ESPN. Utter nonsense.  We are more than capable of coming back and taking over in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:33:20 PM
Kolek and Morsell basically non existent and only down 8.

Still ok.

But gotta make a run pretty early here
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2021, 07:33:22 PM
We got them right where we want them

True. We are a second half team. Looking forward to see the changes Shaka makes at half
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2021, 07:33:30 PM
Morsell, Kolek and Mitchell have zero total points and six turnovers.

4 for 17 from three.  Only reason game close is that STB is 1 for 10 from three. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 21, 2021, 07:34:36 PM
Down 8 and nothing really from Kolek and Morsell?

Let's do it
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2021, 07:35:34 PM
I could care less what anyone says, we're better than this team.  25 pts, we're getting nothing from 2 of our 3 best players, can't make open shots, and are kicking the ball away like crazy.  We played a very undisciplined and poor first half and that can happen with a young team.  SBU is experienced and pretty good but don't tell me this is a 2nd week tourney team ESPN. Utter nonsense.  We are more than capable of coming back and taking over in the 2nd half.

+1. Only fear is eventually we’re going to come up short, especially with a young team. We can’t keep playing from behind. However, the first half is done. We’re down by 8. Worry about slow starts tomorrow and finish strong!!!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Newsdreams on November 21, 2021, 07:36:18 PM
I could care less what anyone says, we're better than this team.  25 pts, we're getting nothing from 2 of our 3 best players, can't make open shots, and are kicking the ball away like crazy.  We played a very undisciplined and poor first half and that can happen with a young team.  SBU is experienced and pretty good but don't tell me this is a 2nd week tourney team ESPN. Utter nonsense.  We are more than capable of coming back and taking over in the 2nd half.
Calm down, yes they're very disciplined and have good D.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:36:32 PM
Morsell, Kolek and Mitchell have zero total points and six turnovers.

4 for 17 from three.  Only reason game close is that STB is 1 for 10 from three.

They aren't a particularly proficient team from distance.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: GoBonnies on November 21, 2021, 07:37:37 PM
This seems to be the year to make a trip like this if you’re a fan of the Bonnies.

This is nothing new. People are finding out about it now because no one cares when you outdraw Cleveland State at their arena or Saint Joes in Philly…we finally don’t suck and are getting games in color now
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 21, 2021, 07:38:24 PM
Even though they've been able to flip the switch so far this year, I'd rather not be in that position against a team like Bona. Those guys know their system inside and out and it's hard to rattle the. 

We'll see what happens. Either way, this week has been a huge success.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 07:38:28 PM
dude, its COULDNT care less... lol
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2021, 07:38:37 PM
Calm down, yes they're very disciplined and have good D.

NO REASON TO CALM DOWN MUGGSY.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: statnik on November 21, 2021, 07:39:49 PM
I could care less what anyone says, we're better than this team.  25 pts, we're getting nothing from 2 of our 3 best players, can't make open shots, and are kicking the ball away like crazy.  We played a very undisciplined and poor first half and that can happen with a young team.  SBU is experienced and pretty good but don't tell me this is a 2nd week tourney team ESPN. Utter nonsense.  We are more than capable of coming back and taking over in the 2nd half.

They’re 1-10 from 3 though, we were starting to give them more open looks as the half wore on, I felt better from a standpoint of regression to the mean against WV but may not help us here.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Newsdreams on November 21, 2021, 07:40:02 PM
NO REASON TO CALM DOWN MUGGSY.
;D
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:40:10 PM
dude, its COULDNT care less... lol
  My bad.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: AlienWarrior on November 21, 2021, 07:40:21 PM
Let's hope Shakra can pull another rabbit out of his hat in the 2nd half
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 21, 2021, 07:42:23 PM
Let's hope Shakra can pull another rabbit out of his hat in the 2nd half

That would be good Shakra
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2021, 07:42:42 PM
Let's hope Shakra can pull another rabbit out of his hat in the 2nd half
Can he make it 4 in a row. Let’s go!!!!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2021, 07:43:43 PM
Yup, let's see if Shakra can get it aligned.   
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:45:36 PM
11 pts off turns.  Can't happen in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:46:25 PM
Travel???
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Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 07:47:41 PM
wtf was that
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:48:37 PM
Wow insane turn there.   Gotta wake up.  NOW!!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Milkshakes on November 21, 2021, 07:49:34 PM
Here we are at 12 down. Our magic number.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on November 21, 2021, 07:50:26 PM
Our boys are gassed.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: DegenerateDish on November 21, 2021, 07:50:31 PM
Things aren’t going well.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: statnik on November 21, 2021, 07:50:42 PM
This is a Wojo game.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:51:17 PM
Just not playing well..   I also don't think we should full court press them.  We haven't forced many turns. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 07:51:41 PM
they look so bad. just stop pressing. hasnt done a thing
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Milkshakes on November 21, 2021, 07:52:23 PM
Omax. I want to like him but he has a loooong way to go. I think his minutes need to decrease significantly.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2021, 07:52:25 PM
they look so bad. just stop pressing. hasnt done a thing

Have one guy pick up the ball handler right away,  it the rest of the team needs to fall back
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Newsdreams on November 21, 2021, 07:52:31 PM
This is a Wojo game.
So you're saying Shaka=Wojo??
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: mug644 on November 21, 2021, 07:52:38 PM
I really need to be convinced that Prosper is worth the playing time he gets. Especially with Greg back and Joplin starting (a bit) to hit his shots.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: cheebs09 on November 21, 2021, 07:53:15 PM
Looks like a young team playing their 3rd game in 4 days against a super experienced and ranked team.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 21, 2021, 07:53:25 PM
Ran outta gas. They're playing their fourth game in 6 nights, and playing grown men.

Wanted to see a little more, but not terribly surprising.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 07:53:54 PM
omg lol..
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Markusquette on November 21, 2021, 07:54:22 PM
5-1 is still damn good for what most were expecting.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on November 21, 2021, 07:54:37 PM
They weren’t going undefeated. Playing against an experienced team in what is basically a road game. All of us would’ve taken 5-1 to this point with a win over Illinois.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2021, 07:55:19 PM
Our boys are gassed.

We are not gassed. We just aren't running any offense, and are quite simply being outplayed in every facet of the game.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 07:55:22 PM
were already assuming a loss. fun
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:55:27 PM
Completely lost our focus
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:56:04 PM
We are not gassed. We just aren't running any offense, and are quite simply being outplayed in every facet of the game.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 07:56:18 PM
this is pretty embarrsing. damn hate turning off games but its close
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PointWarrior on November 21, 2021, 07:56:22 PM
Scoring in 50’s may be a miracle tonight.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: IL Warrior on November 21, 2021, 07:56:34 PM
We are not gassed. We just aren't running any offense, and are quite simply being outplayed in every facet of the game.
This. I don't see a lack of energy. I see inexperience manifesting itself as a total lack of awareness on both the offensive and defensive ends of the floor.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on November 21, 2021, 07:57:36 PM
1 loss this week is better than any of us expected.

Gotta get better now.

Starting with the Wisco game it’s a 6 game gauntlet.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 21, 2021, 07:57:51 PM
Mama said there’d be nights like these or something
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2021, 07:58:11 PM
This is one of those frustrating games we knew would happen, yikes
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Ardmore Mug on November 21, 2021, 07:58:22 PM
From reading Shaka's lips, it appeared he got the T for slapping the floor ! ! !  He even said, I did it for my team ! ! !
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2021, 07:58:28 PM
These games are going to happen. Good learning experience. Let's see how they compete the rest of the half.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 07:58:33 PM
I think we have like 8 points the last 18 mins?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2021, 07:58:37 PM
We're more talented than the Bonnies.

We're deeper than the Bonnies.

Our coach is at least as good as the Bonnies.

Experience (and lack there of) matters
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: statnik on November 21, 2021, 07:58:40 PM
5-1 is still damn good for what most were expecting.

I just wanted us to make the Bonnies work for it, we basically gave them a free win here.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: seakm4 on November 21, 2021, 07:59:21 PM
I think my predictions will be off tonight.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 21, 2021, 07:59:25 PM
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2021, 07:59:28 PM
I’m at peace with this. It was a good tournament. Let’s beat the 2 bunnies and then try and grab 2 of 3 from Wisc, ucla, and kstate. That would be a huge success.

When you get down double figures every game, you can’t always expect to come back.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: pbiflyer on November 21, 2021, 07:59:40 PM
This. I don't see a lack of energy. I see inexperience manifesting itself as a total lack of awareness on both the offensive and defensive ends of the floor.
Yep we are being beat by a team playing smarter basketball.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: warriors141 on November 21, 2021, 07:59:48 PM
We're more talented than the Bonnies.

We're deeper than the Bonnies.

Our coach is at least as good as the Bonnies.

Experience (and lack there of) matters

and our 1 experienced guy hasn't shown up
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 08:00:30 PM
We're more talented than the Bonnies.

We're deeper than the Bonnies.

Our coach is at least as good as the Bonnies.

Experience (and lack there of) matters

We got out of sorts for some reason including our 5th year player..  It's upsetting but teams do have dud games.  Lots of time...gotta keep fighting.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: 21Jumpstreet on November 21, 2021, 08:00:53 PM
We are not gassed. We just aren't running any offense, and are quite simply being outplayed in every facet of the game.

Wholeheartedly disagree. Short shots, slow to switch and box out, giving up open dunks, sloppy handle, sloppy passes. Add this to an experienced team, not a good outcome. Now, we might be able to turn it on, we have players who are capable, but our guys are gassed.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 08:01:22 PM
Axe the press imo.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 08:01:56 PM
Or maybe not....lol.  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: 79Warrior on November 21, 2021, 08:02:34 PM
We're more talented than the Bonnies.

We're deeper than the Bonnies.

Our coach is at least as good as the Bonnies.

Experience (and lack there of) matters

How are we more talented?  I think the Bonnies are a good team.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 08:03:20 PM
Time to hit some shots. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MUBurrow on November 21, 2021, 08:04:18 PM
With the threes not going down, no one has been kicking out on drives anymore, even though the Bonnies keep collapsing.  I'd like to see them stick with the plan whether the shots are dropping or not. A lot of the missed threes were good looks, and better than forcing it up at the hoop in traffic.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: muhoops1 on November 21, 2021, 08:04:54 PM
Wojo coaching?  Still no basket after 6 full mins of play.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 08:05:12 PM
Brutal game for Morsell.  He got sped up.

Hard to watch this.  I went from anger, to sadness, back to anger. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2021, 08:06:04 PM
Brutal game for Morsell.  He got sped up.

Hard to watch this.  I went from anger, to sadness, back to anger.

Not remotely worth getting angry about.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: PointWarrior on November 21, 2021, 08:06:32 PM
I am hoping for a basket made this half.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Fred Garvin on November 21, 2021, 08:06:42 PM
Morsell 0-7 were not going to win without production from him
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 21, 2021, 08:07:18 PM
Can't win if we don't make shots.  Basically, what this game has come down to.  Morsell not himself, Kolek either.  0/12 between them.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 08:07:51 PM
Not remotely worth getting angry about.
glad u can move on instantly. i dont mind a loss one bit but to play this freaking bad i mean come on... this is humilating. will we make a shot in the 2nd half?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: statnik on November 21, 2021, 08:08:47 PM
glad u can move on instantly. i dont mind a loss one bit but to play this freaking bad i mean come on... this is humilating. will we make a shot in the 2nd half?

I’m with you on that.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: DegenerateDish on November 21, 2021, 08:08:54 PM
Gross tonight, but happy with 5-1.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2021, 08:09:13 PM
glad u can move on instantly. i dont mind a loss one bit but to play this freaking bad i mean come on... this is humilating. will we make a shot in the 2nd half?

House money so far. This is certainly disappointing but perspective matters.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: IL Warrior on November 21, 2021, 08:10:00 PM
glad u can move on instantly. i dont mind a loss one bit but to play this freaking bad i mean come on... this is humilating. will we make a shot in the 2nd half?
Yeah this is pathetic. We look like a Kenpom #300 team facing Gonzaga/Villanova/Duke/etc.

I've been really disappointed by the effort in this one.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2021, 08:10:11 PM
Beginning to realize Morsell is not Lloyd Walton.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: statnik on November 21, 2021, 08:10:31 PM
Also a game officiated like this regularly is going to be the death of college basketball.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: warriors141 on November 21, 2021, 08:10:39 PM
glad u can move on instantly. i dont mind a loss one bit but to play this freaking bad i mean come on... this is humilating. will we make a shot in the 2nd half?


hey, with the last 7 years we are used to games like this
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 08:11:08 PM
We made a shot!!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: mug644 on November 21, 2021, 08:12:13 PM
I suppose a positive spin on this is that it is good to have a tired, poor shooting night in a game they weren’t expected to win.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2021, 08:12:21 PM
Mitchell is in over head tonight.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2021, 08:12:50 PM
We just keep trying to beat them 1 on 1. No offense at all.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 21, 2021, 08:13:33 PM
Why does this always happen on national TV?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: AlienWarrior on November 21, 2021, 08:14:02 PM
Time for some humble pie
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: seakm4 on November 21, 2021, 08:14:14 PM
Our freshman are playing like freshman tonight. The problem is we have 10 of them
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MUeng on November 21, 2021, 08:14:57 PM
Bonnies basically toying with us this whole game. It's OK, good to take a loss for this club, will build some character. Hard getting blown out again on ESPN though
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 08:15:08 PM
We'll be alright despite how frustrating this is to watch.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: statnik on November 21, 2021, 08:15:21 PM

hey, with the last 7 years we are used to games like this

I actually think we’ve only had a handful of performances this stinky the past seven years.  If they were shooting average from 3 St Bona would be up 30-35 points.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 21, 2021, 08:15:29 PM
Bummer. Was a super fun run and we should all be ecstatic to be 5-1 right now. Take these next 2 cupcakes and then find a way to go 2-1 against Wisco, K State and UCLA and we’re in FANTASTIC shape.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: IL Warrior on November 21, 2021, 08:15:33 PM
Aside from Lewis, there are zero MU players with multiple made FG in this game...
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2021, 08:15:37 PM
Lewis showed up. That's it.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: warriorstrack on November 21, 2021, 08:15:43 PM
Of all the times to lay a clunker, got some eyeballs on the mother ship ESPN, and some people looking our way…only to shat the bed, it’s unreal how cold they are shooting wise it totally deflated them, time for 3pt shooting practice and then get ready for N.Illinois
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 21, 2021, 08:15:49 PM
Mitchell is in over head tonight.

Same with everyone not named Justin Lewis.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Judge Smails on November 21, 2021, 08:16:12 PM
A loss is ok but getting blown out like this sucks
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: bona2021 on November 21, 2021, 08:16:53 PM
We're more talented than the Bonnies.

We're deeper than the Bonnies.

Our coach is at least as good as the Bonnies.

Experience (and lack there of) matters

This might be one of the funniest posts I've read in awhile!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: DegenerateDish on November 21, 2021, 08:16:59 PM
Of all the times to lay a clunker, got some eyeballs on the mother ship ESPN, and some people looking our way…only to shat the bed, it’s unreal how cold they are shooting wise it totally deflated them, we’ll time for 3pt shooting practice and then get ready for N.Illinois

We’re up against Steelers/Chargers, and HBO. Not many eyeballs watching this.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2021, 08:17:12 PM
How are we more talented?  I think the Bonnies are a good team.

Never said they weren't a good team.  They're better than us this season. Talent is just one factor that goes into how good a team is. They have experience in spades
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: nyg on November 21, 2021, 08:18:32 PM
On the verge of one of worst performances in years.  Shame it was on national Media

One field goal in eleven minutes.  That’s crazy.  One

More turnovers than field goals made
More fouls than field goals made.

Play the Freshmen now rest of game.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: warriorstrack on November 21, 2021, 08:18:43 PM
We’re up against Steelers/Chargers, and HBO. Not many eyeballs watching this.

That’s the way to spin this, I feel better now 🙄
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 21, 2021, 08:22:08 PM
Kam and Stevie tonight - woof
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: NolongerWarriors on November 21, 2021, 08:22:30 PM
An ass kicking to a decent but not great team on ESPN isn’t great for the brand.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2021, 08:23:01 PM
This sucks but there is some value in getting your ass handed to you early in the season for a young team.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MUBBau on November 21, 2021, 08:23:38 PM
If you aren’t a fan of either team, there is little chance you are tuning in
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 21, 2021, 08:23:43 PM
An ass kicking ti a decent but not great team on ESPN isn’t great fir the brand.

To be fair, the “brand” hadn’t been good for years so it’s not all bad. 5-1 for this squad is a huge W at this point.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Judge Smails on November 21, 2021, 08:23:56 PM
Do we still get ranked after this stinker?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: warriors141 on November 21, 2021, 08:24:26 PM
yea, high hopes finally, and then not even able to play a competitive game. kind of a let down
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: GoldenSmartEagles on November 21, 2021, 08:24:36 PM
This might be one of the funniest posts I've read in awhile!

Hey congrats! You beat an inexperienced team you should beat.

Enjoy the opening round loss come March.

In game news, glad they finally hit this seven foot goof ball with a technical. Why hes constantly showboating and flexing after making layups on an open rim is beyond me.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 21, 2021, 08:24:53 PM
We're more talented than the Bonnies.

We're deeper than the Bonnies.

Our coach is at least as good as the Bonnies.

Experience (and lack there of) matters

Or they're just a lot better.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: LAZER on November 21, 2021, 08:25:44 PM
yea, high hopes finally, and then not even able to play a competitive game. kind of a let down
I’m glad that a let down was even possible tonight. There’s gonna be more ugly games, but pretty excited to be 5-1.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on November 21, 2021, 08:26:13 PM
This might be one of the funniest posts I've read in awhile!
Take it easy.

Nobody knows where St Bonaventure even is.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on November 21, 2021, 08:26:14 PM
An ass kicking to a decent but not great team on ESPN isn’t great for the brand.

To be fair, it’s doubtful that many are watching it.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: brewcity77 on November 21, 2021, 08:26:35 PM
How you lose matter. Need to cut that lead. Louisville missed out last year because of two lopsided losses that killed their NET. Get it to 15-20 and that's a win despite the huge loss.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: warriors141 on November 21, 2021, 08:26:43 PM
I’m glad that a let down was even possible tonight. There’s gonna be more ugly games, but pretty excited to be 5-1.

very true
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 21, 2021, 08:27:37 PM
To be fair, it’s doubtful that many are watching it.

Not any more, at least.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: injuryBug on November 21, 2021, 08:28:31 PM
Hey congrats! You beat an inexperienced team you should beat.

Enjoy the opening round loss come March.

In game news, glad they finally hit this seven foot goof ball with a technical. Why hes constantly showboating and flexing after making layups on an open rim is beyond me.

No kidding the first half he had 2 dunks in which he swung on the rim and deserved a tech on each
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 21, 2021, 08:29:26 PM
An ass kicking to a decent but not great team on ESPN isn’t great for the brand.

Big night for you
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: mug644 on November 21, 2021, 08:29:59 PM
I’m ok with the frustration play that is starting to come in. I want MU to want more than what they are doing.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Johnny B on November 21, 2021, 08:30:41 PM
ellis is long and quick. can see the potential
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Judge Smails on November 21, 2021, 08:31:42 PM
Surprised how much Kolek has sat
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 21, 2021, 08:32:31 PM
Surprised how much Kolek has sat

I'm not. Didn't have it and was getting abused defensively.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: DegenerateDish on November 21, 2021, 08:34:40 PM
Sky isn’t falling, if you told me two weeks ago this team would be 5-1 after tonight, I’d have said you’re insane.

Enjoy Thanksgiving break, take care of some cupcakes, then get ready for Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2021, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: GoldenSmartEagles link

Enjoy the opening round loss come March.
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I predict St Bonaventure will win their opening round game in March.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: jfp61 on November 21, 2021, 08:38:24 PM
We're back boys
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 08:40:45 PM
Keep your head up everyone.  Morsell, Kolek, Jones 1-19.  It was a classic dud game which can happen.  Especially with our youth.  I'm not happy but starting to calm down.  Especially in light of how horrible a day this has been for Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on November 21, 2021, 08:41:02 PM
I'll take 5-1 all day
Bonnies are a Bush league team taking threes up 25 and keeping starters in when game is well won

     

     
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: muhoops1 on November 21, 2021, 08:43:05 PM
Very few fan bases can make MU’s look pretty but SBU’s is one of them…woof.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: forgetful on November 21, 2021, 08:43:31 PM
Pretty trashy move by the Bonnie's. I understand calling timeout to get subs in. Every other time I've seen that, the players just come in, and play on.

They not only did a full huddle, but when the timeout was a over stayed in the huddle celebrating and relishing the crowd's cheers.

Shaka was right to be mad. Most coaches/teams show more respect for the game than the Bonnies did.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: 🏀 on November 21, 2021, 08:43:59 PM
Brew…
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2021, 08:44:23 PM
Going to be bad blood in the handshake line
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: 🏀 on November 21, 2021, 08:45:24 PM
Pretty trashy move by the Bonnie's. I understand calling timeout to get subs in. Every other time I've seen that, the players just come in, and play on.

They not only did a full huddle, but when the timeout was a over stayed in the huddle celebrating and relishing the crowd's cheers.

Shaka was right to be mad. Most coaches/teams show more respect for the game than the Bonnies did.

That’s why they’re a mid-major
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: NolongerWarriors on November 21, 2021, 08:45:39 PM
Wow, MU had their noses rubbed the the feces, too.  Bonnies have an attitude.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2021, 08:46:06 PM
Welcome back
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 21, 2021, 08:47:29 PM
About as much class as I'd expect from them.

I will love seeing them get knocked off in March.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: NolongerWarriors on November 21, 2021, 08:47:38 PM
Not having a pure shooter…not even one…will matter a lot as the season rolls on.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: jfp61 on November 21, 2021, 08:47:56 PM
Horrendous shooting on really open threes could have been less. Stuff happens. Nice of them to finish down 16 instead of 25.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Ardmore Mug on November 21, 2021, 08:47:59 PM
Thank God for IGNORE feature ! ! !   8-)
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: brewcity77 on November 21, 2021, 08:48:05 PM
Getting that to 16 instead of the 30-35 it could've been is much better for our postseason hopes. This wasn't pretty and no one will be celebratory, but considering how bad it looked earlier, that's a positive.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 08:49:26 PM
Wow, MU had their noses rubbed the the feces, too.  Bonnies have an attitude.

I didn't like their hubris all game.  They won't do much in the NCAA tournament imo.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: bona2021 on November 21, 2021, 08:50:51 PM
Hey congrats! You beat an inexperienced team you should beat.

Enjoy the opening round loss come March.

In game news, glad they finally hit this seven foot goof ball with a technical. Why hes constantly showboating and flexing after making layups on an open rim is beyond me.

Funny, but that's not what I heard before the game. This team is good and will go deep into the tournament. No telling where they might end up. Feel bad for you guys. never really had a chance.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2021, 08:51:55 PM
Getting that to 16 instead of the 30-35 it could've been is much better for our postseason hopes. This wasn't pretty and no one will be celebratory, but considering how bad it looked earlier, that's a positive.

Agree, in a way it’s a silly thing to take as a positive, but it’s very true. The final margin doesn’t look that bad. I was pissed Ellis missed those last two free throws.

The Bonnies subs looked completely lost out there.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2021, 08:52:55 PM
Funny, but that's not what I heard before the game. This team is good and will go deep into the tournament. No telling where they might end up. Feel bad for you guys. never really had a chance.

Good team and good luck the rest of the way. Make sure to enjoy every game, because next year you’ll be cheering on a whole new team…with a whole new coach.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 21, 2021, 08:53:16 PM
Funny, but that's not what I heard before the game. This team is good and will go deep into the tournament. No telling where they might end up. Feel bad for you guys. never really had a chance.

Why are you here?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 21, 2021, 08:54:36 PM
To talk.  Meh.  His team played well. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 21, 2021, 08:55:39 PM
To talk.  Meh.  His team played well.

I suppose we also have moron fans that do this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 21, 2021, 08:55:58 PM
How you lose matter. Need to cut that lead. Louisville missed out last year because of two lopsided losses that killed their NET. Get it to 15-20 and that's a win despite the huge loss.

Honestly, thank God they did this
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MUfan12 on November 21, 2021, 08:57:37 PM
To talk.  Meh.  His team played well.

Yep. This is their year in the sun. Kinda like how Creighton fans acted Dougie's senior year.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2021, 08:58:24 PM
Funny, but that's not what I heard before the game. This team is good and will go deep into the tournament. No telling where they might end up. Feel bad for you guys. never really had a chance.

Have to save my anger for Cub fans, Badger fans and Bears fans. You guys are good and i hope you have a great year.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2021, 08:59:32 PM
Funny, but that's not what I heard before the game. This team is good and will go deep into the tournament. No telling where they might end up. Feel bad for you guys. never really had a chance.

Is maybe winning one game "deep"?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 09:02:22 PM
Excuse my ignorance but has SBU made the tournament since Bob Lanier?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: 🏀 on November 21, 2021, 09:02:58 PM
Excuse my ignorance but has SBU made the tournament since Bob Lanier?

Come on man.

Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Jockey on November 21, 2021, 09:05:52 PM
Let's keep the whining to a minimum, guys. I see this here every year about how classless other teams are, how they disrespect the game (gotta follow the unwritten rules, ya' know). how unprofessional the other coach is, blah, blah, blah.

Just knock it off. Whining is for losers.

Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Mutaman on November 21, 2021, 09:06:03 PM
Excuse my ignorance but has SBU made the tournament since Bob Lanier?

They kicked our ass on national TV and earned the right to gloat. Nice school nice team. Save this bs for Wisconsin and Notre Dame.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 21, 2021, 09:10:17 PM
I’m with Jockey and Mutaman. The Bonnies deserve a little gloating.we got whipped - let’s tip our hats and pick up the pieces - and fight another day.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 09:12:51 PM
They kicked our ass on national TV and earned the right to gloat. Nice school nice team. Save this bs for Wisconsin and Notre Dame.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 21, 2021, 09:20:01 PM
They kicked our ass on national TV and earned the right to gloat. Nice school nice team. Save this bs for Wisconsin and Notre Dame.

Same.
Wasn't so long ago that MU fans (and players?) were singing "Country Roads."
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 21, 2021, 09:22:13 PM
Funny, but that's not what I heard before the game. This team is good and will go deep into the tournament. No telling where they might end up. Feel bad for you guys. never really had a chance.

 “Feel bad for you guys. Never really had a chance”? Are you kidding me… you have 5 seniors, we have 10 freshman. Your team is nothing more than a flash in the pan. After this year you’ll go back to be just another buy game for schools to feast on. Enjoy it while lasts
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2021, 09:23:04 PM
Same.
Wasn't so long ago that MU fans (and players?) were singing "Country Roads."

I was about to say the same. Exactly. I would have been pissed as a WVU fan seeing Kolek do that on the free throw line during the game. You have to also be able to take it when you are the fence and not the dog.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: 79Warrior on November 21, 2021, 09:36:42 PM
Funny, but that's not what I heard before the game. This team is good and will go deep into the tournament. No telling where they might end up. Feel bad for you guys. never really had a chance.

Don’t feel bad for us. I will put our tradition and  tourney history against you guys all day every day.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: statnik on November 21, 2021, 09:41:42 PM
Can a starting backcourt put up a worse performance?  0-13 shooting along with 3 assists vs 5 turnovers collectively.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: dad's couch on November 21, 2021, 09:49:50 PM
Who is this little Bonnie Bitch? “Feel bad for you guys. Never really had a chance”? Are you fuc*in kidding me… you have 5 seniors, we have 10 freshman. Your team is nothing more than a flash in the pan. After this year you’ll go back to be just another buy game for schools to feast on. Enjoy it while lasts you fuc*in jerk off.

Can we stop with the 10 freshmen. Three of them played over 20 games last year. We also have 3 five-year seniors and Oso who didn't play much but still has a year of DI experience. We do have 12 guys who played a total of 5 games each with this coach but we are not that inexperienced.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2021, 09:53:42 PM
Can we stop with the 10 freshmen. Three of them played over 20 games last year. We also have 3 five-year seniors and Oso who didn't play much but still has a year of DI experience. We do have 12 guys who played a total of 5 games each with this coach but we are not that inexperienced.

Agreed.  Inexperienced in the system, but starting Morsell, Kuath, OMP, Kolek and Lewis is not an inexperienced team.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: CountryRoads on November 21, 2021, 09:57:58 PM
Can we stop with the 10 freshmen. Three of them played over 20 games last year. We also have 3 five-year seniors and Oso who didn't play much but still has a year of DI experience. We do have 12 guys who played a total of 5 games each with this coach but we are not that inexperienced.

We have 4 freshman playing this year. It’s just a dumb Covid thing that others are considered “freshman”.

Included in the “10” are a walk on, a redshirt, and a couple of guys who saw major minutes last year. It’s silly.

Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 09:59:42 PM
Can a starting backcourt put up a worse performance?  0-13 shooting along with 3 assists vs 5 turnovers collectively.

Not a particularly good performance.  :)
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: JWags85 on November 21, 2021, 10:18:02 PM
Excuse my ignorance but has SBU made the tournament since Bob Lanier?

They haven't won a tourney game that wasn't on a Tuesday in Dayton since Lanier, so there's that. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: GoBonnies on November 21, 2021, 10:23:27 PM
Good Christ.

I’m sorry for the unnatural carnal knowledgeing dummie Bona fan on here.

Happy for the win, but it’s still a win in November.

Always have respect for the hoops-first schools like Marquette and other BE clubs.

CBB is always a funky thing. You guys will be fine. Best of luck the rest of the way.

Please, please understand not all of our fans are this stupid.

He’s probably the guy who was chirping Temple fans saying you don’t want to face the Bonnies any more…mind you, we are 7-52 all time against the Owls.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2021, 10:26:07 PM
Can we stop with the 10 freshmen. Three of them played over 20 games last year. We also have 3 five-year seniors and Oso who didn't play much but still has a year of DI experience. We do have 12 guys who played a total of 5 games each with this coach but we are not that inexperienced.

We are ranked 351st out of 358 in experience. We are extremely inexperienced.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 21, 2021, 10:28:07 PM
Agree with what others have said, Bonnies earned the right to gloat, they handed us our butts.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2021, 10:30:16 PM
I’m sorry for the unnatural carnal knowledgeing dummie Bona fan on here.

Hah, welcome to our humorous word filter.  And we know "unnatural" is not the normal usage.  Being an island on the internet, we don't get enough trash talk sometimes. 

It was a smackdown, but I hope your guys do the same to everyone else and make our guys look better. 
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on November 21, 2021, 10:30:52 PM
We are ranked 351st out of 358 in experience. We are extremely inexperienced.

Our bench is extremely inexperienced.  And that's on Shaka.  Most good D1 teams got older this year via the portal.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: OffTheGlass on November 21, 2021, 10:50:43 PM
Teams got older by bringing in 1 year guys. Why would Shaka do that as that’s not how you rebuild a program. He brought in a few nice older players, but I love the young guys. Let them gain experience as we’re not going deep in March without developing these guys and continuing to recruit high level freshman year in and year out. It’ll happen, but making our team older this year is a bandaid approach.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: MuggsyB on November 21, 2021, 10:53:54 PM
Teams got older by bringing in 1 year guys. Why would Shaka do that as that’s not how you rebuild a program. He brought in a few nice older players, but I love the young guys. Let them gain experience as we’re not going deep in March without developing these guys and continuing to recruit high level freshman year in and year out. It’ll happen, but making our team older this year is a bandaid approach.

You're saying he should have not brought in Morsell or Kuath?
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: pbiflyer on November 21, 2021, 10:56:52 PM
Good Christ.

I’m sorry for the unnatural carnal knowledgeing dummie Bona fan on here.

Happy for the win, but it’s still a win in November.

Always have respect for the hoops-first schools like Marquette and other BE clubs.

CBB is always a funky thing. You guys will be fine. Best of luck the rest of the way.

Please, please understand not all of our fans are this stupid.

He’s probably the guy who was chirping Temple fans saying you don’t want to face the Bonnies any more…mind you, we are 7-52 all time against the Owls.

I met Fr Ross at the game. What a great guy and representative of St Bonnie’s. Congrats on the win and championship!
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 21, 2021, 10:58:59 PM
You're saying he should have not brought in Morsell or Kuath?

Not at all what he was saying, IMO.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Jockey on November 21, 2021, 11:39:51 PM
Who is this little Bonnie Bitch? “Feel bad for you guys. Never really had a chance”? Are you fuc*in kidding me… you have 5 seniors, we have 10 freshman. Your team is nothing more than a flash in the pan. After this year you’ll go back to be just another buy game for schools to feast on. Enjoy it while lasts you fuc*in jerk off.

Grow up! You embarrass us all.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 22, 2021, 06:10:18 AM
Grow up! You embarrass us all.

Listen, I get that you joined this board in 2017, during the height of the Wojo era, and probably think our culture is all sweater vest and letter writing. But don’t go all “dad” mode on me and talk about I embarrassed you.

What’s embarrassing is when a fan from another team creates a name simply to jump onto the boards and kick the MU fan base when we’re down. Last night was ugly, we all know it. We don’t need a Bonnie taking shots at us on our own boards on top of it.

I’m not going to apologize to him our or you for taking 30 seconds out of my day to call his crap out.

Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: tower912 on November 22, 2021, 06:12:10 AM
Bonnies, nice game.  Good team.  Beat Dayton.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Herman Cain on November 22, 2021, 07:33:49 AM
Good Christ.

I’m sorry for the unnatural carnal knowledgeing dummie Bona fan on here.

Happy for the win, but it’s still a win in November.

Always have respect for the hoops-first schools like Marquette and other BE clubs.

CBB is always a funky thing. You guys will be fine. Best of luck the rest of the way.

Please, please understand not all of our fans are this stupid.

He’s probably the guy who was chirping Temple fans saying you don’t want to face the Bonnies any more…mind you, we are 7-52 all time against the Owls.
I like that you guy showed up here . In fact I hope he continues to a show up . I wish mor opponent fans would show up . So need to apologize .


Good luck the rest of your season and hope your team makes it deep into the tournament
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: GoBonnies on November 22, 2021, 07:43:57 AM
Thanks, Herman.

I visit teams boards occasionally. Not to boast, but to answer questions or clear up misconceptions about SBU.

Seems like we always have a few fans that act like clowns when we are having a good year. Hope they don’t leave a sour taste in your mouth of what Bonnies fans are really like.

Best of luck the rest of the OOC and in Big East Play.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on November 22, 2021, 08:15:26 AM
Difficult to find positives from last night but at least our T was not called for having 6 players on the court. Clemson took the bball expression "6th man" literally.  ;D
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 22, 2021, 09:33:25 AM
Can we stop with the 10 freshmen. Three of them played over 20 games last year. We also have 3 five-year seniors and Oso who didn't play much but still has a year of DI experience. We do have 12 guys who played a total of 5 games each with this coach but we are not that inexperienced.

Ok, lets rephrase to Experience and continuity. We'll remove emotions and look at just facts & Stats. See Kenpom stats below.

This is what and how continuity is measured https://kenpom.com/blog/measuring-continuity/

MU ranks 338th in country (in minutes continuity)

As far as experience……

Experience Definition: Uses eligibility class weighted by minutes played. A freshman has no years experience, a sophomore has one year experience, etc.

MU ranks 350th out of 358 D1 teams at  at .79 years


Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: panda on November 22, 2021, 09:48:10 AM
One of our freshmen hit a game winner against Wisconsin last year and another won A10 rookie of the year. Lol

That’s why saying we have 10 freshmen on our roster is misleading.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on November 22, 2021, 09:53:36 AM
One of our freshmen hit a game winner against Wisconsin last year and another won A10 rookie of the year. Lol

That’s why saying we have 10 freshmen on our roster is misleading.


Again, the objective stats show that we are inexperienced.  On top of that, they have hardly played real, competitive games with one another.

It matters.  It will matter less as the season wears on.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: GOO on November 22, 2021, 09:54:25 AM
I've been and am thrilled with the season so far.  It would be a good start for a deep experienced team.

Yesterday's game was what I expected to see this year, at least on the offensive side of the ball.  A team that can't score. I did expect better defense, overall, but there will be lapses with a young team.

So, great start, a loss to a quality team is not a bad thing this time of year.  How the team responds is what will count, and I expect this to be a learning experience with Shaka leading the way.

And, if we have to lose one, losing to St. Bonaventure is a nice one to lose.  I will be pulling for them all year and hoping for the best for them.  Love the smaller schools that put together a great team against all odds.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: 1SE on November 22, 2021, 09:59:08 AM
Eh - good for a young team to get the doors blown off at least once - should build some bounceback.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: panda on November 22, 2021, 10:00:34 AM

Again, the objective stats show that we are inexperienced.  On top of that, they have hardly played real, competitive games with one another.

It matters.  It will matter less as the season wears on.

Thanks ESPN.

It’s quite literally true we have 10 freshmen with covid rules. No one is disputing that.

It’s a lazy narrative from the broadcast dig the poster above toon 30 seconds to dug deeper with one stat, using one sentence.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on November 22, 2021, 10:03:25 AM
Thanks ESPN.

It’s quite literally true we have 10 freshmen with covid rules. No one is disputing that.

It’s a lazy narrative from the broadcast dig the poster above toon 30 seconds to dug deeper with one stat, using one sentence.


Do you understand who watches these games?  They aren't going to be dropping kenpom experience and continuity stats that lend more confusion than clarity.  It's just easier to say they're young.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: panda on November 22, 2021, 10:07:50 AM

Do you understand who watches these games?  They aren't going to be dropping kenpom experience and continuity stats that lend more confusion than clarity.  It's just easier to say they're young.

It also sets up a conversation point to explain where Kolek came from or what Lewis did last season. Although I guess I’m not surprised this ESPN F squad went the extremely lazy route of reporting.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on November 22, 2021, 10:09:35 AM
It also sets up a conversation point to explain where Kolek came from or what Lewis did last season. Although I guess I’m not surprised this ESPN F squad went the extremely lazy route of reporting.


They aren't reporters.  They are game commentators.  You are expecting way too much from them.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: panda on November 22, 2021, 10:14:59 AM

They aren't reporters.  They are game commentators.  You are expecting way too much from them.

Pick a different adjective/verb that means finding slightly interesting fact that tells a deeper story to tell an audience then.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: panda on November 22, 2021, 10:19:36 AM

They aren't reporters.  They are game commentators.  You are expecting way too much from them.

Basically I don’t want this to turn into another “Did you know Markus Howard is only X years old?!”
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on November 22, 2021, 10:36:06 AM
Rich Hollenberg didn't have the best weekend for ESPN.  :-[
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Hards Alumni on November 22, 2021, 10:44:27 AM
Basically I don’t want this to turn into another “Did you know Markus Howard is only X years old?!”

But you've already done that.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Pakuni on November 22, 2021, 10:50:35 AM
Yes, Marquette was the younger and less experienced team.
No, Marquette didn't lose because they were the younger and less experienced team.
They lost because the Bonnies were far better in every facet of the game.
If this had been a competitive game that came down to some key possessions at the end, I'd be more willing to buy the inexperience excuse.
But inexperience didn't cause Kolek, OMax and Morsell to shoot 1-for-18. Or for the defense to part like the Red Sea over and over again.

MU had the same lack of experience against Illinois, Ole Miss and West Virginia. Didn't cause them to poop the bed in those games.
We just got our tails kicked by a team that was much, much better across the board. Learn from it and move on to the next one.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: panda on November 22, 2021, 10:55:34 AM
But you've already done that.

No ESPN did it.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: dad's couch on November 22, 2021, 11:22:01 AM
Didn't mean to turn it in to a pissing match but then again it's Scoop. This team has 5 guys who started last year on their respective teams. How many teams can say they have 5 starters returning? Again. What we have is a bunch of guys for the most part never played together in a system they never played in.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: goldeneagle91114 on November 22, 2021, 12:16:56 PM
Didn't mean to turn it in to a pissing match but then again it's Scoop. This team has 5 guys who started last year on their respective teams. How many teams can say they have 5 starters returning? Again. What we have is a bunch of guys for the most part never played together in a system they never played in.

Argue it how ever you want, but... As far as experience:

Experience Definition: Uses eligibility class weighted by minutes played. A freshman has no years experience, a sophomore has one year experience, etc.

MU ranks 350th out of 358 D1 teams at  at .79 years

Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: brewcity77 on November 22, 2021, 12:31:36 PM
This team has 5 guys who started last year on their respective teams. How many teams can say they have 5 starters returning?

5 starters returning? That feels a bit dubious...

At best, we have 3 "starters" returning. Regardless, this is not an experienced team by any stretch of the imagination and your attempts to say otherwise are at best disingenuous.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 22, 2021, 12:31:59 PM
Lots of thoughts here but in the end, MU had its third worst OE game in their KPom's history. And the Bonnie's had their worst OE game since 2020.

Fix the half court O. Our Defense is elite.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: The Equalizer on November 22, 2021, 12:39:55 PM
Thanks ESPN.

It’s quite literally true we have 10 freshmen with covid rules. No one is disputing that.

It’s a lazy narrative from the broadcast dig the poster above toon 30 seconds to dug deeper with one stat, using one sentence.

I think the problem with the way the networks (and schools) have chosen to frame this in terms of eligibility, not experience. 

Calling Lewis, Kolek, or Ighadoro "freshmen" because they have 3 more years of eligibility after this season is confusing to those to think a freshman is in his first year playing D1 and has zero experience before this season.

I think it's a fair request that when commentators throw out comments like "Marquette has 10 freshmen" they point out that five of them have actually had a season of D1 experience, 1 is redshirting and not playing at all this season, and four are true first-year players with no prior D1 experience.

And this isn't a huge ask--the commentators know this is going to be the case for every team in the country.  When you do your game prep, know the difference between a COVID-related classification freshman, and those really have no D1 experience. 



Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: OffTheGlass on November 22, 2021, 12:49:36 PM
Not at all what he was saying, IMO.

Exactly. My point being that you don’t load up with more than Morsell and Kuath. Great grabs but you dont rebuild by adding much more than what we have done so.
Title: Re: Bonnie game thread
Post by: panda on November 22, 2021, 01:14:19 PM
I think the problem with the way the networks (and schools) have chosen to frame this in terms of eligibility, not experience. 

Calling Lewis, Kolek, or Ighadoro "freshmen" because they have 3 more years of eligibility after this season is confusing to those to think a freshman is in his first year playing D1 and has zero experience before this season.

I think it's a fair request that when commentators throw out comments like "Marquette has 10 freshmen" they point out that five of them have actually had a season of D1 experience, 1 is redshirting and not playing at all this season, and four are true first-year players with no prior D1 experience.

And this isn't a huge ask--the commentators know this is going to be the case for every team in the country.  When you do your game prep, know the difference between a COVID-related classification freshman, and those really have no D1 experience.

Precisely. There is more context and nuance beyond the 10 freshmen comment.