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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 1SE on February 27, 2021, 10:09:16 PM
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Ooof.
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ive only been around for the 2014 season so guess ill pic that. this is worse tho
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ahh that 1915 squad.. good times. always fun to watch. anyone else concur?
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Being on ESPN.com and other National sites, and the front page of Chicago Tribune regarding sexual assault cover up is our program low.
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The Coaching and Team are not the best but the Program itself was lower after we entered the New Big East. In 13-14 And yes the Program was even lower than that in 87-89. As far as decisions go Hiring AL was one of the best for MU winning. Forgoing ESPN’s Deal and control and going to the New Big East with no control was not the Best. In 1989 I suggested to Mr Cords we go with the Best Recruiter out there. Mr Cords took a survey at the Final Four in 1989 and the best
recruiter was Identified as Kevin O’Neil who
Mr Cords hired as our new coach.
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1987-89 was worse than this. By a long shot. We hadn't been in the NCAAs for awhile, just joined what is now the Horizon Conference, and had a bad coach.
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1987-89 was worse than this. By a long shot. We hadn't been in the NCAAs for awhile, just joined what is now the Horizon Conference, and had a bad coach.
For a fans who grew up and or went to school during the Crean and Buzz years, this is far and away the low point.
But yes you are correct, the original question was program low point. Dukiet takes the cake.
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For me it is now. Dukiet was bad, but I still remember being interested in games.
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The Coaching and Team are not the best but the Program itself was lower after we entered the New Big East. In 13-14 And yes the Program was even lower than that in 87-89. As far as decisions go Hiring AL was one of the best for MU winning. Forgoing ESPN’s Deal and control and going to the New Big East with no control was not the Best. In 1989 I suggested to Mr Cords we go with the Best Recruiter out there. Mr Cords took a survey at the Final Four in 1989 and the best
recruiter was Identified as Kevin O’Neil who
Mr Cords hired as our new coach.
you reference control. Where was MU to go when football blew up basketball? ESPN? Please elaborate. MU sucks because of MU. No one to blame. It comes down to coaching and players. MU’s problem? Michael Lovell, poor coaching and short a player or two on talent. It’s all on MU. Self accountability.
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I was at MU during the Dukiet years. I think the difference between then and now - as I perceived it both then and now, is that back then everyone knew Cords was a clown and that his hiring capability was akin to throwing darts blindfolded. Everyone - including Dukiet - knew Dukiet was not good enough for the level MU wanted to be at and it was just a matter of time. Fortunately it was pretty fast.
Now, with Wojo coming from a blue blood program with very high expectations for his ability - and despite the fact that Cords was once again involved - he's gotten a much longer rope. The fact that he runs a clean program in an era when that's incredibly important helps him a lot. The administration - because they are blinded by his cleanliness and his resume - have been (or still are) slow to realize he's not the man for the job IF winning basketball games consistently is part of the objective.
The problem now is more difficult. MU needs to decide (again) if it wants to be a consistent top 25 program, and a consistent NCAA Tournament attendee. I think they decided that when they hired Wojo, and thought he could make it happen. Now, if they're Ok with "clean, but not very good" then they make no changes and we become St. Bonaventure or USF. If they decide (again) to be elite, then a lot of things need to happen, the first of which is a coaching change.
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I was at MU during the Dukiet years. I think the difference between then and now - as I perceived it both then and now, is that back then everyone knew Cords was a clown and that his hiring capability was akin to throwing darts blindfolded. Everyone - including Dukiet - knew Dukiet was not good enough for the level MU wanted to be at and it was just a matter of time. Fortunately it was pretty fast.
Cords is a clown?
Cords didn't hire Dukiet, but he did hire O'Neil and Crean. Cords got us into the MCC for sure, but he also got us out of there and into the Great Midwest, CUSA and eventually the BE.
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Wojo still has work to do to put us in a program low position. Sadly, he likely will be given the time to work on taking the program lower. In his defense, he has better talent than the Dukiet low and I do not think we can go much lower. He must really lack coaching chops or there is something else going on. This is not a top twenty team but definitely not the second worst team in the BE.
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I was at MU during the Dukiet years. I think the difference between then and now - as I perceived it both then and now, is that back then everyone knew Cords was a clown and that his hiring capability was akin to throwing darts blindfolded. Everyone - including Dukiet - knew Dukiet was not good enough for the level MU wanted to be at and it was just a matter of time. Fortunately it was pretty fast.
The problem here is that Hank fired Dukiet, Bill fired him.
Cords hired KO (saved the program), Deane (ok, not terrible. We got a NCAA win and conference title), and Crean (home run).
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/46677352.html/
After a 10-18 finish in 1987-'88, a 13-15 finish in 1988-'89 and no more post-season appearances, Dukiet was shown the door by new athletic director Bill Cords, who'd replaced Hank Raymonds following Dukiet's first year.
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The Coaching and Team are not the best but the Program itself was lower after we entered the New Big East. In 13-14 And yes the Program was even lower than that in 87-89. As far as decisions go Hiring AL was one of the best for MU winning. Forgoing ESPN’s Deal and control and going to the New Big East with no control was not the Best. In
1989 I suggested to Mr Cords we go with the Best Recruiter out there. Mr Cords took a
survey at the Final Four in 1989 and the best
recruiter was Identified as Kevin O’Neil who
Mr Cords hired as our new coach.
The reason 2014 is worse than now, is I feel it will not be 8 or more years until we get a Big Dance win.
But 87-89 was even worse. The reasons are I was told from the Son of a board member in
87 Marquette received only 3 applications for the head coach job. Versace, Newell and Dukiet. After Newell accepted then walked away, Mr Raymonds who coached my Father In Law, hired Dukiet. Mr Cords fired Dukiet and Mr Cords hired Kevin O’Neil.
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1987-89 was worse than this. By a long shot. We hadn't been in the NCAAs for awhile, just joined what is now the Horizon Conference, and had a bad coach.
This. So much this. MU had one future NBAer trying to carry the team, a half-way decent Robin to his batman, and almost no other high major talent.
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The players hated and feared the coach.
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I wasn’t there during Dukiet years, but it seemed pretty dismal and probably the worst.
The end of the Deane years was a lot worse than today. They had no good recruits and literally didn’t see a transition dunk in a game . Absolutely marginal athletes.
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Wasn't there a year, either at the end of Deane or the beginning of Crean, that there was no dunk contest during midnight madness because there weren't enough guys on the team who could dunk?
And Dukiet was the absolute nadir. When you are concerned about losing to Hartford at home, etc...
https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/1987
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Wasn't there a year, either at the end of Deane or the beginning of Crean, that there was no dunk contest during midnight madness because there weren't enough guys on the team who could dunk?
And Dukiet was the absolute nadir. When you are concerned about losing to Hartford at home, etc...
https://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/1987
Polo won the first dunk contest when TC was coach. He joked to some of us the contest was how many pieces of paper they could slip underneath the guy dunking.
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I think Bart Miller win the dunk contest. Google him, younger fans. It was a lot worse 20 years ago with Deane.
Crean turned it around very quick.
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I think Bart Miller win the dunk contest. Google him, younger fans. It was a lot worse 20 years ago with Deane.
Crean turned it around very quick.
John Mueller, Mike Bargen, “Biggie” Clausen. It definitely was not great.
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The problem here is that Hank fired Dukiet, Bill fired him.
Cords hired KO (saved the program), Deane (ok, not terrible. We got a NCAA win and conference title), and Crean (home run).
http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/46677352.html/
After a 10-18 finish in 1987-'88, a 13-15 finish in 1988-'89 and no more post-season appearances, Dukiet was shown the door by new athletic director Bill Cords, who'd replaced Hank Raymonds following Dukiet's first year.
Marquette had this thing called the Marquette Athletics Board who did the hiring back then. Hank actually wanted to return as coach due to Rick's late resignation. That board was akin to letting a MU Scoop poll hire our next coach.
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Marquette had this thing called the Marquette Athletics Board who did the hiring back then. Hank actually wanted to return as coach due to Rick's late resignation. That board was akin to letting a MU Scoop poll hire our next coach.
Man, if we let scoop hire the next coach, we’d get Erik Spoelstra
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Marquette had this thing called the Marquette Athletics Board who did the hiring back then. Hank actually wanted to return as coach due to Rick's late resignation. That board was akin to letting a MU Scoop poll hire our next coach.
That would end well.
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Man, if we let scoop hire the next coach, we’d get Erik Spoelstra
Hologram Al
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This is certainly the low point for me as someone who was a freshman at the end of the Crean era.
The lack of any real success for 8 years along with the university’s financial position basically keeping us stuck. At least in Wojo’s first year, there was some optimism he could turn things around with how his early recruiting was going.
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Not sure if it means anything and Someone on here already said it. But most all the coaches offered golf outings at the Blue And Gold auction last night but not Coach Wojo.
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Not sure if it means anything and Someone on here already said it. But most all the coaches offered golf outings at the Blue And Gold auction last night but not Coach Wojo.
Dude can’t handle criticism, clearly. He has it made.
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Dude can’t handle criticism, clearly. He has it made.
Why would anyone want to play golf with a guy who’s probably not going to be the coach next year?
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Celtics soon to launch Brad Stevens. MU, place the call!
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None of my buddies are going to be the coach next year and I love golfing with them.
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Not sure if it means anything and Someone on here already said it. But most all the coaches offered golf outings at the Blue And Gold auction last night but not Coach Wojo.
It may be reading too much into things, but it’s certainly interesting. If nothing else, Wojo seems like a company man. I’d figure despite the general opinion of the fan base, there’s some people that like Wojo enough to shell out some cash. Pair him with someone like Novak or Diener if you’re all that worried.
I’m just hanging on anything that could point to a mutual separation at this point.
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None of my buddies are going to be the coach next year and I love golfing with them.
I laughed.
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Not sure if it means anything and Someone on here already said it. But most all the coaches offered golf outings at the Blue And Gold auction last night but not Coach Wojo.
Easier to just keep him out of it altogether than risk the embarrassment of having no one bid on an outing with him, or have all the bids be ridiculously low. MU has turned off comments on all tweets, and this isn’t much different. They know how the majority of the fan base feels.
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Pilarz and Williams started the death. Recent admin finished the job.
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1987-89 was worse than this. By a long shot. We hadn't been in the NCAAs for awhile, just joined what is now the Horizon Conference, and had a bad coach.
I began my Marquette tenure with the 1987-88 team. That season was at the MECCA. At least we had the Bradley Center to look forward to in 88-89.
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Cords is a clown?
Cords didn't hire Dukiet, but he did hire O'Neil and Crean. Cords got us into the MCC for sure, but he also got us out of there and into the Great Midwest, CUSA and eventually the BE.
My bad. I stand corrected on Cords... he hired Deane but not Dukiet. Neither is one to be proud of, however.
As mentioned by another post, the "athletic board" was really the problem (my source was on the board at the time) however there was little/no respect for Cords but a lot of kissing up to maintain their prestigious position on the board, and reverse kissing a__ by Bill to keep his job. It was all very dysfunctional.
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My bad. I stand corrected on Cords... he hired Deane but not Dukiet. Neither is one to be proud of, however.
As mentioned by another post, the "athletic board" was really the problem (my source was on the board at the time) however there was little/no respect for Cords but a lot of kissing up to maintain their prestigious position on the board, and reverse kissing a__ by Bill to keep his job. It was all very dysfunctional.
Deane wasn't great and his firing was justified but he took us to two NCAA tournaments (actually winning a game!) and one conference title.
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Deane wasn't great and his firing was justified but he took us to two NCAA tournaments (actually winning a game!) and one conference title.
Better hire than Wojo and also fired sooner than Wojo. The fact that Wojo has produced so little and been here so long is mind boggling.
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I know that Deane had to go, but I have a hard time hating on the guy. I thought his teams were well-prepared and played to their potential. Granted, the players were O'Neill recruits, but he kept them and had success that we can only dream of now.
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Krunti Hester.
Mitchell, Jones, Aidoo.
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Krunti Hester.
Mitchell, Jones, Aidoo.
You hear about all these great Wojo recruits year after year yet the team just keeps trending in the wrong direction. You can throw out all the recruit names you want but that’s meaningless unless it translates into success. Deane’s teans had more success overall than Wojo’s but that still wasn’t good enough to keep Deane here yet we’re perfectly happy with Wojo’s continued ineptitude. Times have certainly changed.
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You hear about all these great Wojo recruits year after year yet the team just keeps trending in the wrong direction. You can throw out all the recruit names you want but that’s meaningless unless it translates into success. Deane’s teans had more success overall than Wojo’s but that still wasn’t good enough to keep Deane here yet we’re perfectly happy with Wojo’s continued ineptitude. Times have certainly changed.
Staying the course for another year should not be confused with “perfectly happy”.
I’m not too sure you can identify any recent posters or University officials that are publicly taking that position.
If a contract extension is granted, it will be for reasons other than “ a job well done”.
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You hear about all these great Wojo recruits year after year yet the team just keeps trending in the wrong direction. You can throw out all the recruit names you want but that’s meaningless unless it translates into success. Deane’s teans had more success overall than Wojo’s but that still wasn’t good enough to keep Deane here yet we’re perfectly happy with Wojo’s continued ineptitude. Times have certainly changed.
I don't think there are many here who think that Wojo should continue as the coach at Marquette. Most of us are simply resigned to the fact that he will be.
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I said 2014-15 because that team was worse than this one and had less future promise on the roster, or at least it seemed that way at the time.
The Dukiet era was worse than either. Kevin O'Neill can never get enough credit for pulling is out of the abyss, as far as I'm concerned.
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You hear about all these great Wojo recruits year after year yet the team just keeps trending in the wrong direction. You can throw out all the recruit names you want but that’s meaningless unless it translates into success. Deane’s teans had more success overall than Wojo’s but that still wasn’t good enough to keep Deane here yet we’re perfectly happy with Wojo’s continued ineptitude. Times have certainly changed.
Trajectory under Deane was always negative. Trajectory under Wojo was positive until 2/12/20. It's been so bad since then that a change would be justified
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Trajectory under Deane was always negative. Trajectory under Wojo was positive until 2/12/20. It's been so bad since then that a change would be justified
*In your opinion* the trajectory has been bad since 2/12/20. You’re stating that like it’s a fact. I’d say the downward spiral started almost exactly one year prior to the date you mentioned, when MU began its first of what would become an annual late season collapse.
But again, you’re stating the 2/12/20 thing like it’s a fact. It’s not. It’s your opinion.
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*In your opinion* the trajectory has been bad since 2/12/20. You’re stating that like it’s a fact. I’d say the downward spiral started almost exactly one year prior to the date you mentioned, when MU began its first of what would become an annual late season collapse.
But again, you’re stating the 2/12/20 thing like it’s a fact. It’s not. It’s your opinion.
Sure it's an opinion. An educated one backed by facts instead of emotion.
On 2/11/20 we were 17-6, had won 6 of our last seven games, with the one loss being in OT on the road to a top 25 teams and were being projected as a 4 - 6 seed by most bracketolgists. We were ranked 23rd in KenPom, which was higher than we were ever ranked in the previous year. We were projected as a favorite in 6 out of our 7 remaining games and projected to go 5-2 down the stretch. Recruiting looked good at that point too with three four stars signed up, including a burger boy. It was the height of the Wojo era....and the fall from there to now has been spectacularly bad in a very short amount of time.
We took a step back at the end of Year 5 but we rose past it in the beginning of Year 6. Despite Hausergate, we were on track to exceed Year 5 until 2/12/20.
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Wojo needs Mike Deane as an assistant on the bench?
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Wojo needs Mike Deane as an assistant on the bench?
As long as Deane brings his seatbelt, I'm on board!
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As long as Deane brings his seatbelt, I'm on board!
Add KO to the mix and kiss the cuddles good-bye.
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Sure it's an opinion. An educated one backed by facts instead of emotion.
On 2/11/20 we were 17-6, had won 6 of our last seven games, with the one loss being in OT on the road to a top 25 teams and were being projected as a 4 - 6 seed by most bracketolgists. We were ranked 23rd in KenPom, which was higher than we were ever ranked in the previous year. We were projected as a favorite in 6 out of our 7 remaining games and projected to go 5-2 down the stretch. Recruiting looked good at that point too with three four stars signed up, including a burger boy. It was the height of the Wojo era....and the fall from there to now has been spectacularly bad in a very short amount of time.
We took a step back at the end of Year 5 but we rose past it in the beginning of Year 6. Despite Hausergate, we were on track to exceed Year 5 until 2/12/20.
Marquette was 23-4 with a high point of 24 in KenPom in 2019. That team was overachieving until that point and regressed to the mean. The losses down the stretch were still brutal since they were favorites in all of them except Villanova.
Last year was worse because at worst, they should have finished 2-1 heading into Big East tourney play.
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Trajectory under Deane was always negative. Trajectory under Wojo was positive until 2/12/20. It's been so bad since then that a change would be justified
Disagree, you can look back and say that based on recruiting but the team on the court went from an NIT team to a 4 seed in the NCAA tourney in year 2. Also won a conference tourney in year 3. I wasn’t a Deane fan and thought he should be fired but not going to rewrite history in order to make Wojo look better.
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Marquette had this thing called the Marquette Athletics Board who did the hiring back then. Hank actually wanted to return as coach due to Rick's late resignation. That board was akin to letting a MU Scoop poll hire our next coach.
I was a member of Athletic Board.it was never our job to hire or fire. It was all budget work. Hires were done by AD and Administration.
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Disagree, you can look back and say that based on recruiting but the team on the court went from an NIT team to a 4 seed in the NCAA tourney in year 2. Also won a conference tourney in year 3. I wasn’t a Deane fan and thought he should be fired but not going to rewrite history in order to make Wojo look better.
No rewriting needed. He peaked in year 2 with KOs players and slid downward for three years. We were in a negative trajectory for over half of Deanes tenure.
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No rewriting needed. He peaked in year 2 with KOs players and slid downward for three years. We were in a negative trajectory for over half of Deanes tenure.
Wasn't the NIT considered a big disappointment too? I feel like that's been mentioned a lot from people who were there around then.
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Wasn't the NIT considered a big disappointment too? I feel like that's been mentioned a lot from people who were there around then.
They lost Key, McIlvaine and Logterman but did have Eford, Pieper and Miller back. FWIW, Sporting News picked them to finish 6th in the Great Midwest that year and finished t-3.
Had losses to Illinois-Chicago and UWGB and not one of the better UWGB teams (though they made the tournament).
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I was a member of Athletic Board.it was never our job to hire or fire. It was all budget work. Hires were done by AD and Administration.
You didn't interview potential coaches? Turn down Hank's return?
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This is the saddest, most brutal, most honest thread I have ever read on Scoop.
All the facts, trends, and history are right there in the open.
It's obviously not just Wojo, or this team or some meaningless statistic.
It is systemic, it is long term, a very long time, a slow motion train reck over decades.
There is no quick fix, that I can see, no miracle to expect, no savior on the horizon.
In some strange way Marquette basketball never really wanted to play with the big dogs.
It is what it is and always has been. I suppose there is nothing wrong with being a Northwestern, Princeton, St. Bonaventure, Wake Forest, or Bucknell.
Sad, very sad.
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You didn't interview potential coaches? Turn down Hank's return?
I was there when Al left and Hank came on board as HC and AD. We worked with all varsity sports. We never interviewed a coach in any sport. That was done by Hank and his staff. Then it went to Fr Raynor and BOT.
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At any rate, it looks like most people agree this is in the top-5 of all-time MU program low-points, with a solid majority agreeing this is the lowest point in the program in over 30 years.
A mutual deal with BC would be so wonderful - it really seems win-win-win.
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You left out 1977. Everything after that was a low point for the program.
All kidding aside if Nova can have an elite program there is no reason why MU cannot as well. We just have to find the next Jay Wright or Mark Few. Nova was successful under Rollie Massimino and then hired Jay. We should be able to do the same, but is the administration willing.
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You left out 1977. Everything after that was a low point for the program.
All kidding aside if Nova can have an elite program there is no reason why MU cannot as well. We just have to find the next Jay Wright or Mark Few. Nova was successful under Rollie Massimino and then hired Jay. We should be able to do the same, but is the administration willing.
Remember there was a "Steve Lappas Era" in between Rollie and Jay. And they moved on from him when it wasn't going well.
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Has a school ever hired a head coach and before firing the existing head coach?
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You left out 1977. Everything after that was a low point for the program.
All kidding aside if Nova can have an elite program there is no reason why MU cannot as well. We just have to find the next Jay Wright or Mark Few. Nova was successful under Rollie Massimino and then hired Jay. We should be able to do the same, but is the administration willing.
100% correct
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Hiring coaches is a crapshoot.
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'nother fookin' ridiculous statement by hour current hed koach: From tadey's Urinal-Sentinel
After an 80-62 loss at Connecticut on Saturday, MU head coach Steve Wojciechowski was asked what he will be looking for from his team this week.
"We're going to prepare to win, Wojciechowski said. We're looking for guys that can compete and try to win the game."
Unfookin' reel. Keep on lookin'...at sum udder school, hey?
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'nother fookin' ridiculous statements by hour current hed koach: From tadey's Urinal-Sentinel
After an 80-62 loss at Connecticut on Saturday, MU head coach Steve Wojciechowski was asked what he will be looking for from his team this week.
"We're going to prepare to win, Wojciechowski said. We're looking for guys that can compete and try to win the game."
Unfookin' reel. Keep on lookin'...at sum udder school, hey?
Honestly, if we are looking for anything from Wojo interviews that’s not coach speak pulled from his Coaching for Dummies book, it’s more our fault. He is about as boring of a quote you can get.
I’ve stopped reading too much into anything other than the “we are young” and his answers that start “this is not an excuse” followed by a few excuses.
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Honestly, if we are looking for anything from Wojo interviews that’s not coach speak pulled from his Coaching for Dummies book, it’s more our fault. He is about as boring of a quote you can get.
I’ve stopped reading too much into anything other than the “we are young” and his answers that start “this is not an excuse” followed by a few excuses.
Let's face it, there's ZERO pressure being put on Wojo by the only paper in town. If you listen to Steele in the postgame press conferences, or watch him if the Zoom happens to show him, you can tell he feels like he's really walking on egg shells with Wojo. I can't say as I blame him too much; he needs to stay in Wojo's good graces if he wants any access to the program, and as a professional journalist, he likely knows the signs of an interview subject who's about to pop off at the first perceived slight. And it's also been said on here that Wojo hasn't been afraid to cut off access to his program.
Basically, Milwaukee is the cat bird seat for Wojo right now. With his record these past seven years, he'd be getting eaten alive at a place like Indiana or Kentucky.
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Let's face it, there's ZERO pressure being put on Wojo by the only paper in town. If you listen to Steele in the postgame press conferences, or watch him if the Zoom happens to show him, you can tell he feels like he's really walking on egg shells with Wojo. I can't say as I blame him too much; he needs to stay in Wojo's good graces if he wants any access to the program, and as a professional journalist, he likely knows the signs of an interview subject who's about to pop off at the first perceived slight. And it's also been said on here that Wojo hasn't been afraid to cut off access to his program.
Basically, Milwaukee is the cat bird seat for Wojo right now. With his record these past seven years, he'd be getting eaten alive at a place like Indiana or Kentucky.
All of the above is true. The thinnest of the thin skinned for a guy in a highly paid, performance based, public role.
For all of the ridiculous talk that the UNC game saved his job (totally disagree with the fact it had any impact), losing tonight will probably move the needle.
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Wojo is our Steve Lappas.
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And it's also been said on here that Wojo hasn't been afraid to cut off access to his program.
Whose access to the program has Wojo cut off?
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Whose access to the program has Wojo cut off?
Pretty sure someone stated that the "insider forums" like IWB and Dodds have indicated they get less access than when Buzz was around.
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Pretty sure someone stated that the "insider forums" like IWB and Dodds have indicated they get less access than when Buzz was around.
This is what I was referring to. Brew alluded to it in a thread a while back.
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Pretty sure someone stated that the "insider forums" like IWB and Dodds have indicated they get less access than when Buzz was around.
Reason enough to let Wojo stay.
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Pretty sure someone stated that the "insider forums" like IWB and Dodds have indicated they get less access than when Buzz was around.
Not sure that was entirely Wojo's doing. I think that was more about the athletic department's reaction to #donedeal.
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Not sure that was entirely Wojo's doing. I think that was more about the athletic department's reaction to #donedeal.
Gotcha. Just was trying to shed some light on that perception.
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Pretty sure someone stated that the "insider forums" like IWB and Dodds have indicated they get less access than when Buzz was around.
This is what I was referring to. Brew alluded to it in a thread a while back.
I'm pretty sure that's just Wojo's general policy and has run things that way since he got here. I don't think that matches with the statement of "he's not afraid to cut off access to his program" which implied that he as maliciously cutting off access in response to criticism.
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The Milwaukee Journal Sports section is a shell of its former self. Steele and Potrykus can’t afford to burn bridges. It’s as simple as that. Editors don’t care
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Wojo is our Steve Lappas.
Here's hoping.
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For all of the ridiculous talk that the UNC game saved his job (totally disagree with the fact it had any impact), losing tonight will probably move the needle.
"All the ridiculous talk" didn't exist. No one said it saved his job.
Hopefully you and silent verbal got a package deal on that strawman.
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"All the ridiculous talk" didn't exist. No one said it saved his job.
Hopefully you and silent verbal got a package deal on that strawman.
It did from several posters.
The wonderful thing about this site is that you can look back through my posts and actually see in real time when I said how ridiculous that talk was. I’d suggest you do that before saying anything about me in the future.
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I'm not gonna go through posts because I don't want to waste the time, but there were at least a few Scoopers who seemed to think Wojo was quite possibly gone after the Seton Hall loss, got new life after the Butler win, got his job saved by the UNC win, but could be in trouble again after the UConn loss, and very well will get the boot if we lose again to DePaul.
They seem to think that Lovell, Scholl and BOT members haven't already made up their minds and actually are judging Wojo game-by-game. And these fine fans say that anybody who has the temerity to root for Marquette to win any game is guilty of accepting mediocrity and of accepting having Wojo as coach forever no matter how shytty things get.
It's such a fun, albeit clueless, narrative.
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If he was being judged on a game by game basis he’d be gone already. They will keep him another year because they suck and don’t have the will or motivation to truly rectify the program’s situation. Or pit us in this position in the first place.
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It did from several posters.
The wonderful thing about this site is that you can look back through my posts and actually see in real time when I said how ridiculous that talk was. I’d suggest you do that before saying anything about me in the future.
Due to the wonderfulness of the site, I was able to look back through your posts to before the UNC game even got scheduled and couldn't find a single instance of you saying how ridiculous that talk was.
Now, it is possible I missed it, and if so I'm sure you can correct me. But I suspect the lack of such posts was because no one seriously posted that the UNC game saved Wojo's job.
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The Milwaukee Journal Sports section is a shell of its former self. Steele and Potrykus can’t afford to burn bridges. It’s as simple as that. Editors don’t care
Poky is on the UW system payroll.
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Poky is on the UW system payroll.
I don’t think that. I do think he’s lazy and mails it in and wouldn’t know how to report news that isn’t spoon fed him by the athletic department
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Wojo needs Mike Deane as an assistant on the bench?
If Mike Deane was an assistant the way this team plays defense, we'd be out of timeouts before the first commercial timeout!
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If Deane was coaching this team,
I think he would have a stroke