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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Johnny B on January 27, 2021, 09:12:14 PM

Title: wojo post game
Post by: Johnny B on January 27, 2021, 09:12:14 PM
for gluttons  of punishment, here ya go
https://youtu.be/95_F-yPrjFI
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: GoldenZebra on January 27, 2021, 09:14:08 PM
ugh. I think ultimately this is a perfect storm of way too high expectations coinciding with lots of Ls.
It hurts the fan perspective when a team beats 2 top 10 opponents early on and then "collapses".
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 09:22:54 PM
Ughhh.  What a waste of 5:38.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: Boone on January 27, 2021, 09:25:28 PM
What a waste of 7 years
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: Silent Verbal on January 27, 2021, 09:27:02 PM
Wojo just seems like he wants the season to be over at this point.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: Daniel on January 27, 2021, 09:39:59 PM
Wojo just seems like he wants the season to be over at this point.

It sounds like he is frustrated with the players.  Why?  Because they don’t run the plays he calls or don’t listen?  They don’t practice hard enough?   They don’t try hard enough?   If any of that is true, I start Oso and dexter and 3 walk ons next game.  Why nit.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: mug644 on January 27, 2021, 09:57:50 PM
Wojo just seems like he wants the season to be over at this point.

Isn’t that how Buzz seemed in his last year?
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: Silent Verbal on January 27, 2021, 09:59:43 PM
Isn’t that how Buzz seemed in his last year?

Yes, it's very much like that, with the difference being that Wojo has nowhere to go.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: mug644 on January 27, 2021, 10:05:12 PM
Yes, it's very much like that, with the difference being that Wojo has nowhere to go.

Wojo will have options and opportunities, possibly as decent as VTech was when Buzz went. Do you recall that it was accurately considered a step down from MU? Wasn’t there recently a thread of Wojo going to Penn St?
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: Silent Verbal on January 27, 2021, 10:07:30 PM
Wojo will have options and opportunities, possibly as decent as VTech was when Buzz went. Do you recall that it was accurately considered a step down from MU? Wasn’t there recently a thread of Wojo going to Penn St?

That was just one poster speculating.  When Buzz left for Virginia Tech, he had been to the Sweet 16 or better in 3 of the last 4 seasons.  What's funny is he probably could've had the Texas job if he'd waited it out one more year at MU, but the way things were behind the scenes, that wasn't going to happen.

Wojo will have no P6 opportunities after the season.  That ship has sailed.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: #UnleashSean on January 27, 2021, 10:16:45 PM
Maybe wojo should coach in a white t?
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: mug644 on January 27, 2021, 10:33:15 PM
That was just one poster speculating.  When Buzz left for Virginia Tech, he had been to the Sweet 16 or better in 3 of the last 4 seasons.  What's funny is he probably could've had the Texas job if he'd waited it out one more year at MU, but the way things were behind the scenes, that wasn't going to happen.

Wojo will have no P6 opportunities after the season.  That ship has sailed.

Solid points. While I believe that Wojo will have options and opportunities, if he (hopefully) is willing to explore them, I accept that you are correct that they won’t be P6 possibilities, especially in COVID times.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: Viper on January 28, 2021, 06:59:08 AM
Wojo will have options and opportunities, possibly as decent as VTech was when Buzz went. Do you recall that it was accurately considered a step down from MU? Wasn’t there recently a thread of Wojo going to Penn St?
wojo is similar to Tommy Amaker. Dud at Michigan, doing well at Harvard. I see there’s an opening at Fordham. Might be a better fit. Jesuit school like MU, with no expectations.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: tower912 on January 28, 2021, 07:39:02 AM
He isn't happy with the effort.   
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: The Lens on January 28, 2021, 08:20:29 AM
He isn't happy with the effort.

It's pretty clear, Wojo does not know how to motivate.  This might be akin to Ted Williams not being able to coach hitting.  Wojo obviously never needed motivation on effort as a player.

I went to the MU game at Butler during Henry's season.  Henry had twisted his ankle the game prior (a win over GTown).  We had won 3 of 4.  The loss was to Nova.  A win at Butler on the last day of the season gets us to 9-9 and more on the bubble.  I arrive early to show my son around Hinkle.  Henry's warming up.  He's going to play!  I thought this is it, we're back, we're rising.  We lost by 21.  Finish conference 8-10.

I should have known then.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: cheese ball chaser on January 28, 2021, 09:44:15 AM
Yes, it's very much like that, with the difference being that Wojo has nowhere to go.

Don't cha know, Wojo is taking over for K at Duke!
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 28, 2021, 10:35:21 AM
He isn't happy with the effort.



Yeah butt, der still tired, hey?
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 28, 2021, 10:37:26 AM
I don't think motivation is Wojo's problem at all.  I think tactics and adjustments are his problem. 
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: cheebs09 on January 28, 2021, 10:52:34 AM
I don't think motivation is Wojo's problem at all.  I think tactics and adjustments are his problem.

Not exactly a glowing review of Wojo’s thought processes.

https://twitter.com/thegoldenbreak/status/1354819537019957255?s=21
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 28, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
There was a reason he sat next to K for all those years, aina?
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: NolongerWarriors on January 28, 2021, 11:03:46 AM
He isn't happy with the effort.

And we shouldn't be happy with Wojo's effort if he really did say he ran the last play in regulation because it had gotten a dunk for Carton the possession before.

The problem is the dunk came well into OT.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 28, 2021, 11:07:02 AM
I don't think Wojo is going anywhere, but frankly, at this point I don't see how the admin can't make a move.

I've never been on the fire wojo bandwagon, but moreso because I was worried about what it would do to our recruiting class and returning players.  Well, next years recruiting class isn't impressive at all IMO, and I think that Carton/Garcia are probably a coinflip to stay regardless of what happens.

It is time to move on.   
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 28, 2021, 11:11:18 AM
Neva delay a personnel move 'cuz of ramifications. If da move feels right. Strap it on and go for it, hey?
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: The Lens on January 28, 2021, 11:12:34 AM
I don't think motivation is Wojo's problem at all.  I think tactics and adjustments are his problem.

I would disagree because I don't think there's a hunger or fire in his teams.  Effort wanes at times.  We never play like our backs are to the wall.  The closest we come to that is "2 minute drill Koby".
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 28, 2021, 11:14:06 AM
I would disagree because I don't think there's a hunger or fire in his teams.  Effort wanes at times.  We never play like our backs are to the wall.  The closest we come to that is "2 minute drill Koby".


Yeah I don't see that.  Yesterday the effort was really good.  Sure they sucked it up offensively but defensively they were pretty solid, and that's where effort shows. 
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: MUfan12 on January 28, 2021, 11:17:14 AM
They got a dunk for Theo to tie at 59, on what essentially ended up being a slip screen. Both defenders went to Carton, and Theo recognized it and cut to the hoop.

On the last possession, they had Koby fake to set a high ball screen, then he went opposite block to screen for Theo, who set a screen up top. Problem is his roll went right into the passing lane. Koby was open, his defender was in the lane. A clean pass and he either has a shot, or if help comes, and extra pass to Jamal in the corner.

Koby is on the ground with the ball at 2.4. Why no one on the bench was screaming for a timeout then is beyond me.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 28, 2021, 11:32:30 AM
And we shouldn't be happy with Wojo's effort if he really did say he ran the last play in regulation because it had gotten a dunk for Carton the possession before.

The problem is the dunk came well into OT.

The Golden Breakdown guys made a mistake. The possession before they did run a play and it did get dunk for Theo, assisted by Carton. They assumed that Wojo was talking about Carton getting a dunk but it was Carton setting up a dunk for Theo.
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: muwarrior97 on January 28, 2021, 12:50:40 PM
That was just one poster speculating.  When Buzz left for Virginia Tech, he had been to the Sweet 16 or better in 3 of the last 4 seasons.  What's funny is he probably could've had the Texas job if he'd waited it out one more year at MU, but the way things were behind the scenes, that wasn't going to happen.

Wojo will have no P6 opportunities after the season.  That ship has sailed.

Sailed? OR Sunk?
Title: Re: wojo post game
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 28, 2021, 04:59:57 PM
It's pretty clear, Wojo does not know how to motivate.  This might be akin to Ted Williams not being able to coach hitting.  Wojo obviously never needed motivation on effort as a player.

I went to the MU game at Butler during Henry's season.  Henry had twisted his ankle the game prior (a win over GTown).  We had won 3 of 4.  The loss was to Nova.  A win at Butler on the last day of the season gets us to 9-9 and more on the bubble.  I arrive early to show my son around Hinkle.  Henry's warming up.  He's going to play!  I thought this is it, we're back, we're rising.  We lost by 21.  Finish conference 8-10.

I should have known then.

Great example. That is the game we always seem to lose.  Right when you think we have a chance to get back in the tournament picture or do something special the rug gets pulled out from under the fan base.