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Title: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: jesmu84 on January 27, 2021, 08:19:05 PM
Nm
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: NickelDimer on January 27, 2021, 08:20:05 PM
Amazing how many have seen the light. We’re all just waiting him out at this point. He’s the same trash coach he was the day he was hired.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: NCMUFan on January 27, 2021, 08:20:44 PM
Get him a donut and a coffee.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: CountryRoads on January 27, 2021, 08:21:24 PM
May be bottoming out here the rest of the way. I don’t see many more wins.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Silent Verbal on January 27, 2021, 08:23:08 PM
Arkansas Pine Bluff's coach is Wojo without Markus.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: MUeng on January 27, 2021, 08:23:39 PM
May be bottoming out here the rest of the way. I don’t see many more wins.
a classic Wojo end of season losing streak is upon us. We peaked vs wisc
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: warriors141 on January 27, 2021, 08:24:32 PM
steve.wojciechowski@marquette.edu

maybe ask him to try and find a different job????
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: cheese ball chaser on January 27, 2021, 08:25:09 PM
Can't wait for the postgame press conference. "we suck, not much else to say"
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 27, 2021, 08:26:15 PM
Amazing how many have seen the light. We’re all just waiting him out at this point. He’s the same trash coach he was the day he was hired.

This goes well beyond well beyond Wojo.

Basically every coach in America with a guard with Cartons athleticism and talent would play out that final possession.

95% of guards with Carton's skillset are taking that ball to the hole with absolute no hesitation. Unfortunately he would probably miss the free throws but thats a different issue.

You gotta have dogs that want the moment as a coach too.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: NickelDimer on January 27, 2021, 08:27:32 PM
This goes well beyond well beyond Wojo.

Basically every coach in America with a guard with Cartons athleticism and talent would play out that final possession.

95% of guards with Carton's skillset are taking that ball to the hole with absolute no hesitation. Unfortunately he would probably miss the free throws but thats a different issue.

You gotta have dogs that want the moment as a coach too.
I mean a coach is never solely responsible but nah this is mostly Wojo. Different season, different players, same shiit results
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: CountryRoads on January 27, 2021, 08:27:59 PM
a classic Wojo end of season losing streak is upon us. We peaked vs wisc

Looking to be 3 years in a row. Although, these “late season collapses” are starting to begin earlier and earlier in the year. It’s over though. You can tell Wojo doesn’t have this team anymore. No leadership out there either from the players. Talented kids so you’ll see good plays like Cartons dunk, but will still end with the loss.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on January 27, 2021, 08:28:04 PM
Don't think wojo can coach 8th grade.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Silent Verbal on January 27, 2021, 08:33:29 PM
I think the BOT and Admin may be starting to sweat a little.  They were probably hoping for something similar to last year, where we were just mediocre enough for Wojo to squeak by.  That way they could justify giving him one more post-pandemic year and wait until March 2022 to deal with it.  However, with the way things are going now, it may be so obvious Wojo has to go that they'll either have to can him or face holy hell from the STHs and fan base in general.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: MUeng on January 27, 2021, 08:34:40 PM
Looking to be 3 years in a row. Although, these “late season collapses” are starting to begin earlier and earlier in the year. It’s over though. You can tell Wojo doesn’t have this team anymore. No leadership out there either from the players. Talented kids so you’ll see good plays like Cartons dunk, but will still end with the loss.
agreed. Hard to call it a collapse when you weren't good to begin with. Then it's just...bottom feeding? I dunno, not a good state we're in
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on January 27, 2021, 08:35:15 PM
I think the BOT and Admin may be starting to sweat a little.  They were probably hoping for something similar to last year, where we were just mediocre enough for Wojo to squeak by.  That way they could justify giving him one more post-pandemic year and wait until March 2022 to deal with it.  However, with the way things are going now, it may be so obvious Wojo has to go that they'll either have to can him or face holy hell from the STHs and fan base in general.

Agreed.  Seat is getting warmer by the game.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 27, 2021, 08:35:41 PM
The thing is SOP is an extension for recruiting purposes. They either have to drop him now or give him something.

But even a year will go over very poorly at this point.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: panda on January 27, 2021, 08:36:07 PM
I think the BOT and Admin may be starting to sweat a little.  They were probably hoping for something similar to last year, where we were just mediocre enough for Wojo to squeak by.  That way they could justify giving him one more post-pandemic year and wait until March 2022 to deal with it.  However, with the way things are going now, it may be so obvious Wojo has to go that they'll either have to can him or face holy hell from the STHs and fan base in general.

Fiserv with fans next season will be UGLY. People are worried about a fan walk out. It’ll probably be worse if fans stay the entire game.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: NolongerWarriors on January 27, 2021, 08:39:36 PM
Wojo's not going anywhere.

MU loves the "clean program" and Wojo's political views line up with the administration.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: jaygall31 on January 27, 2021, 08:42:04 PM
Whats the buyout?
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 27, 2021, 08:42:22 PM
MU loves the "clean program" and Wojo's political views line up with the administration.

OK, first political warning of your "young" posting life.  Don't do it.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Big Papi on January 27, 2021, 08:43:12 PM
The seat is getting warm.  Money talks.  He was already getting booed at home games last year.  Imagine if we had fans this year.  My guess is that he is around next year but my God if there are fans in the stands, its going to get ugly next year. 
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 08:43:23 PM
No rational person could watch our last two games and think our head coach is doing a good job.  We need to start the process tomorrow.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 27, 2021, 08:43:36 PM
Can't wait for the postgame press conference.

- the Big East is tough
- the guys are tired
- it's hard to prepare with Covid
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Class71 on January 27, 2021, 08:45:45 PM
Seriously, is anyone surprised at how this season is going? I
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Warrior of Law on January 27, 2021, 08:48:11 PM
Wojo's not going anywhere.

MU loves the "clean program" and Wojo's political views line up with the administration.

Seems like a nice guy, friendly, father-type, etc.  He's not cut out for competing at a P6 school as a head coach.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 08:55:15 PM
My take is the tremendous MU fans are done.  Book it.  If a change is not made you will see Fiserv 1/2 full at best.  This simply cannot continue.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Johnny B on January 27, 2021, 08:57:53 PM
My take is the tremendous MU fans are done.  Book it.  If a change is not made you will see Fiserv 1/2 full at best.  This simply cannot continue.
Wats on tap tonight muggs
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Daniel on January 27, 2021, 08:58:34 PM
Wojo's not going anywhere.

MU loves the "clean program" and Wojo's political views line up with the administration.

We’d hire some assistant somewhere anyway and start the 4 year rebuild.  We won’t go get a hot D1 head coach.  So it appears the program is in trouble.   Wojo needs an ex head coach on the bench who might help.   
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Silent Verbal on January 27, 2021, 08:58:53 PM
Yeah, I'm at the point where I *might* try to attend the UCLA or Nova games if they're on a Saturday.  Other than that, I don't have any interest in going until we have a new coach. 
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 09:01:29 PM
Wats on tap tonight muggs

I'm having a St. Bernadus 12.  Extremely upset and trying to calm down.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Johnny B on January 27, 2021, 09:04:19 PM
I'm having a St. Bernadus 12.  Extremely upset and trying to calm down.
yep got some flieshmans goin. tastes like gasoline but feels alright ya know
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: willie warrior on January 27, 2021, 09:04:45 PM
I think the BOT and Admin may be starting to sweat a little.  They were probably hoping for something similar to last year, where we were just mediocre enough for Wojo to squeak by.  That way they could justify giving him one more post-pandemic year and wait until March 2022 to deal with it.  However, with the way things are going now, it may be so obvious Wojo has to go that they'll either have to can him or face holy hell from the STHs and fan base in general.
Doubt if those bozos have the sacks to pull the trigger on this crapshow. "Sweat a little"? Doubt if they even would sweat if somebody pushed a hand grenade up their kielbasa. This program is assuming the circular swirl down the toilet and if somebody has not figured that out by now, condolences
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 27, 2021, 09:05:11 PM
Wojo, year 7:

55-63 in Big East
0 tournament wins
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: cheebs09 on January 27, 2021, 09:05:58 PM
Seriously, is anyone surprised at how this season is going? I

I definitely anticipated some ups and downs. The Creighton and UW wins got my hopes up a bit. But we aren’t improving as the year goes on. It’s not that we are making young mistakes. We are maki by the same mistakes as every Wojo team does.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: NickelDimer on January 27, 2021, 09:06:00 PM
Wojo, year 7:

55-63 in Big East
0 tournament wins
Trash coach
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Billy Hoyle on January 27, 2021, 09:09:26 PM
We’d hire some assistant somewhere anyway and start the 4 year rebuild.  We won’t go get a hot D1 head coach.  So it appears the program is in trouble.   Wojo needs an ex head coach on the bench who might help.

I thought Judson was supposed to fill that role.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 27, 2021, 09:22:06 PM
Wojo needs an ex head coach on the bench who might help.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LgaU1h0QiLo/maxresdefault.jpg)

“Hi, Jerry Wainwright its Woj”
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: CountryRoads on January 27, 2021, 09:22:12 PM
Wojo, year 7:

55-63 in Big East
0 tournament wins

Yeah, it’s time to pull the plug. I actually think Wojo will be successful at his next stop, but both parties need a fresh start as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: MUfan12 on January 27, 2021, 09:23:38 PM
Wojo, year 7:

55-63 in Big East
0 tournament wins

Since blowing out Providence in 2019, to get one win away from a BE title... MU has gone 12-20 (.375) in regular season league games.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 09:25:09 PM
yep got some flieshmans goin. tastes like gasoline but feels alright ya know

I'm a light drinker...but I may pop open another one
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Viper on January 27, 2021, 09:29:36 PM
Wojo's not going anywhere.

MU loves the "clean program" and Wojo's political views line up with the administration.
yup
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Viper on January 27, 2021, 09:35:49 PM
Doubt if those bozos have the sacks to pull the trigger on this crapshow. "Sweat a little"? Doubt if they even would sweat if somebody pushed a hand grenade up their kielbasa. This program is assuming the circular swirl down the toilet and if somebody has not figured that out by now, condolences
spot freakin’ on
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Japabound on January 27, 2021, 09:37:08 PM
I don’t see a lot of defending of the indefensible here. This guy is trash. Wow he can recruit! Too bad he can’t coach those recruits. His record speaks for itself. He stinks, fact. Time to move on.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: MuggsyB on January 27, 2021, 09:37:48 PM
Since blowing out Providence in 2019, to get one win away from a BE title... MU has gone 12-20 (.375) in regular season league games.

Astounding.  Ty for pointing this out.  Enough said.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Anti-Dentite on January 27, 2021, 09:39:30 PM
I think the BOT and Admin may be starting to sweat a little.  They were probably hoping for something similar to last year, where we were just mediocre enough for Wojo to squeak by.  That way they could justify giving him one more post-pandemic year and wait until March 2022 to deal with it.  However, with the way things are going now, it may be so obvious Wojo has to go that they'll either have to can him or face holy hell from the STHs and fan base in general.
Dont bank on either doing the right thing, both are a disaster for the university.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: mug644 on January 27, 2021, 09:54:56 PM
Dont bank on either doing the right thing, both are a disaster for the university.

This. I’m glad I don’t have to be part of the decision. As a fan, I’m totally ready to move on from Wojo, even though the likely major shake up of the team scares the bejesus out of me.

Yet, as someone who hopes to see MU ride out the financial crises associated with COVID, I hate to take on additional financial burden involved with a buy-out and the hiring of a new coach.

It’s a shi**y dilemma. Just like whether to keep watching games this season. I don’t know what I’d do if I’m decision maker about the coach, but I will keep watching. With booze.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Aughnanure on January 27, 2021, 09:59:35 PM
Since blowing out Providence in 2019, to get one win away from a BE title... MU has gone 12-20 (.375) in regular season league games.

Oh. My. God.

That was actually the last game I was went to (east coast). So much hope that day.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: BM1090 on January 27, 2021, 10:04:09 PM
He's not a terrible coach. It would be easier if he was truly terrible.

But he's not good enough and he should be let go as soon as the university is able.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Johnny B on January 27, 2021, 10:08:42 PM
He's not a terrible coach. It would be easier if he was truly terrible.

But he's not good enough and he should be let go as soon as the university is able.
given this type of program and it being the big east how much worse does it get lol
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 27, 2021, 10:12:27 PM
Since blowing out Providence in 2019, to get one win away from a BE title... MU has gone 12-20 (.375) in regular season league games.

4 of the 12 being from Depaul & Johnnies
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: HutchwasClutch on January 27, 2021, 10:32:56 PM
Seriously, is anyone surprised at how this season is going? I

Not in the least. 
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: HutchwasClutch on January 27, 2021, 10:37:32 PM
Since blowing out Providence in 2019, to get one win away from a BE title... MU has gone 12-20 (.375) in regular season league games.

Oof.  DePaul like. 
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: AlphaBanguara on January 28, 2021, 02:05:14 AM
OK, first political warning of your "young" posting life.  Don't do it.

Things have certainly changed around these parts. A little quick on the draw wouldn't you say? How is this comment political? Do we even know Wojo's political leanings?
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: 1SE on January 28, 2021, 02:14:57 AM
Oof.  DePaul like.

And not an anomaly, basically 2 full seasons worth of.games.

Pool our WSB winnings to fund the buyout? If they can solve the collective action problem we can too
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: AlphaBanguara on January 28, 2021, 02:18:33 AM
It's frustrating to think that Wojo may have never had a clue what he was doing running this program. He has stumbled his way into varying degrees of success, I but it's worth reflecting on whether that success was largely a product of player talent rather than any game planning. Now, the player talent is either missing or disengaged, so his own lack of talent is more obvious than ever. I'm tempted to watch his older press conferences to determine if there is anything behind the eyes. I don't think there is. The incomprehensible decisions he has made make more sense when you start to realize he has been exploring a new land without a map. It's like when you're trying to weigh whether someone is an eccentric genius or just a crazy person. They almost have to crap the bed before you can make a final decision. It ticks me off that he has steered the program so far off course for so long.
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: AlphaBanguara on January 28, 2021, 02:20:52 AM
Since blowing out Providence in 2019, to get one win away from a BE title... MU has gone 12-20 (.375) in regular season league games.

Dodds:  "Why don't you...pick a streak....like....the last two losses....0-2....isn't that....better....
Title: Re: Leave Wojo in Providence
Post by: Hards Alumni on January 28, 2021, 06:21:39 AM
- the Big East is tough
- the guys are tired
- it's hard to prepare with Covid

1.  Two ranked teams
2.  They've played 15 games, give me a break
3.  Sounds like an excuse.  How is it hard to prepare?  They still have all the time and facilities.  There is as much equal footing in cbb this year as there usually is.