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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2021, 08:18:48 PM

Title: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2021, 08:18:48 PM
In 31 mins??  This seems egregious to me.  How exactly did this happen?
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Goose on January 23, 2021, 08:20:19 PM
Fluff or BLM will have the answer.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: The Big East on January 23, 2021, 08:23:00 PM
In 31 mins??  This seems egregious to me.  How exactly did this happen?
MuggsY:
The team played like a bunch of guys at the rec center. They were chucking the ball every time they came down the court, provided they didn't turn it over.

I watched a lot of Big East basketball over the years, and I would say our team did a great imitation of DePaul type basketball today.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 23, 2021, 08:23:07 PM
Fluff or BLM will have the answer.

It’s simple. We have decided for some stupid reason to have our “paint touch” run through Theo instead of Dawson. No idea why.

I mean why give it to a McD AA when you can give it to a guy with such limited offensive ability instead? 

It’s a mystery.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Goose on January 23, 2021, 08:24:02 PM
Fluff

No one gives a f*ck what you think why Garcia had only four shots.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 23, 2021, 08:25:00 PM
Fluff

No one gives a f*ck what you think why Garcia had only four shots.

Fluff or BLM will have the answer.

Actually it looks like you do.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2021, 08:25:59 PM
Was Theo forcing doubles when he got the ball?  I'm stunned DG took 4 freaking shots.  Are you saying he wasn't even trying to low or mid-post?
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: CountryRoads on January 23, 2021, 08:29:32 PM
Was Theo forcing doubles when he got the ball?  I'm stunned DG took 4 freaking shots.  Are you saying he wasn't even trying to low or mid-post?

I can’t stomach to watch the game again but I can’t remember one time DG got the ball in the low post or even at the elbow. He was the designated screener at the top of the key tonight it seemed.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on January 23, 2021, 08:30:44 PM
I can’t stomach to watch the game again but I can’t remember one time DG got the ball in the low post or even at the elbow. He was the designated screener at the top of the key tonight it seemed.

Yep. Horrible misuse of talent.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2021, 08:31:20 PM
Why are posters attacking each other?  I just asked a question.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Johnny B on January 23, 2021, 08:32:38 PM
Why are posters attacking each other?  I just asked a question.
ur still pretty new here :0. Youll get used to it eventually
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 23, 2021, 08:32:56 PM
Actually it looks like you do.
Lol
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on January 23, 2021, 08:34:49 PM
Why are posters attacking each other?  I just asked a question.
You must be new here.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: We R Final Four on January 23, 2021, 08:35:31 PM
Why are posters attacking each other?  I just asked a question.
Hahaha—-really?

Welcome to Scoop!
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: wadesworld on January 23, 2021, 08:35:38 PM
Fluff or BLM will have the answer.

I’m not allowed to partake. I don’t know ball.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Goose on January 23, 2021, 08:36:28 PM
BLM


+1
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 23, 2021, 08:36:44 PM
Why are posters attacking each other?  I just asked a question.



Its watt wee due heer. Sum call it Scoop incest, hey?
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: drbchilds on January 23, 2021, 08:40:23 PM
It happened because our “offense” typically consists of this:
1) Carton walks the ball up the floor
We get into our “offense” with about 22 seconds left in the shot clock
2) Theo sets a ball screen which accomplishes absolutely nothing.  DJ dribbles back to the top of the key.  There is now about 15 seconds left in the shot clock.  Nobody is moving.  No cuts. No screens. No passing. No ball movement.
 The  other team is able to rest on defense, because there is no passing or ball movement and none of our guys are moving
DJ now passes to someone, anyone out on the wing.  Now about 8 seconds left in the shot clock.  Nobody is moving.  Couple dribbles and a forced shot by someone at the end of the shot clock

If Dawson happens to be the guy with the ball in his hands at the end of the shot clock, he gets a shot.  Otherwise, he gets no shot as there are no plays ever called for our McDonalds All-American
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2021, 08:42:58 PM
ur still pretty new here :0. Youll get used to it eventually

Okay.  Ty.

Meanwhile, it sounds like we played our worst game of the year....and that's saying something.  It's incredibly frustrating that our teams the past 4/5 years have not gotten better come Feb/March.  But the biggest thing that sticks out to me is that at one point we had 15 turns in like 22 mins.  There's just no way to sugarcoat this prob and we see it constantly.  Drives me absolutely nuts... and they are sloppy and careless.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Viper on January 23, 2021, 08:44:44 PM
Why are posters attacking each other?  I just asked a question.
posters only attack Fluffy and BLM. You’ll figure out why in time.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 23, 2021, 08:47:09 PM
It happened because our “offense” typically consists of this:
1) Carton walks the ball up the floor
We get into our “offense” with about 22 seconds left in the shot clock
2) Theo sets a ball screen which accomplishes absolutely nothing.  DJ dribbles back to the top of the key.  There is now about 15 seconds left in the shot clock.  Nobody is moving.  No cuts. No screens. No passing. No ball movement.
 The  other team is able to rest on defense, because there is no passing or ball movement and none of our guys are moving
DJ now passes to someone, anyone out on the wing.  Now about 8 seconds left in the shot clock.  Nobody is moving.  Couple dribbles and a forced shot by someone at the end of the shot clock

If Dawson happens to be the guy with the ball in his hands at the end of the shot clock, he gets a shot.  Otherwise, he gets no shot as there are no plays ever called for our McDonalds All-American




Sew, wee know offense after nearly 7 years? But, ther's still tyme. Wright didn't win until his 24th yeer at Villanova. Just gotta bea moore patient. This season wheel focus on other issues, hey?
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Goose on January 23, 2021, 08:49:04 PM
4ever

This is a year to learn about life issues. Please show a little more patience.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 23, 2021, 08:51:06 PM
I'm just gonna shut up and dribble, hey?
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: wadesworld on January 23, 2021, 08:51:33 PM
posters only attack Fluffy and BLM. You’ll figure out why in time.

Because snowflakes like you get triggered when someone says that black lives matter. Crazy that you disagree with that. Very sad actually.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2021, 08:52:16 PM
posters only attack Fluffy and BLM. You’ll figure out why in time.

Alright...thx for the info.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Boston Warrior on January 23, 2021, 08:57:44 PM
Our bigs ...  of Lewis, Garcia and Theo were 6 for 22... DePaul seemed to want it more and athletically they were more aggressive. Several shots were blocked and Garcia wasn’t looking for his shot or was out of position for his shot..

Greg and Jamal were ok but they don’t create their own shot.

Symir isn’t a shooter yet, Koby and carton were the only guys that can create today and they played well in spurts. We need more from them and the bigs.


It was not a great game.. next.

Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 23, 2021, 08:58:41 PM
Great game? Sucked major ass, hey?
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: The Big East on January 23, 2021, 09:00:17 PM
Why are posters attacking each other?  I just asked a question.
That is the trade off of posting here. Freedom of speech is allowed and people frequently attack each other.

On Mr. Dodds site, he does not allow posters to attack each other ( or if they do he won't tolerate it  for very long) However, Dodds also restricts speech. That is why all the best post on Dodds  site are the off topic ones where there is a little more freedom of speech versus the  MU posts which must adhere to the company line .
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2021, 09:03:28 PM
That is the trade off of posting here. Freedom of speech is allowed and people frequently attack each other.

On Mr. Dodds site, he does not allow posters to attack each other ( or if they do he won't tolerate it  for very long) However, Dodds also restricts speech. That is why all the best post on Dodds  site are the off topic ones where there is a little more freedom of speech versus the  MU posts which must adhere to the company line .

That's fair but I just thought it was a bit hostile. 
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: The Big East on January 23, 2021, 09:15:13 PM
Great game? Sucked major ass, hey?
I think Circle Jerk would be a good description.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 23, 2021, 09:47:52 PM
That's fair but I just thought it was a bit hostile.

Folks do get a bit hostile here on occasion.  That's generally OK, we're all passionate about MU hoops.  Much like the country, some here like to sperate folks into one camp or the other.   But  much like reality, we've got hundreds of little camps, all with their own mind.  Disagreement is allowed.  We don't appreciate attacks against one another, but we kinda learn who can take it and who can't.  We don't like to moderate.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Jockey on January 23, 2021, 10:01:44 PM
Fluff

No one gives a f*ck what you think why Garcia had only four shots.

I’ve had plenty of arguments with Fluff - but I’ll take his opinion over yours 8 days a week.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Bad_Reporter on January 23, 2021, 10:05:20 PM
I’ve had plenty of arguments with Fluff - but I’ll take his opinion over yours 8 days a week.

And I’ll take the guy who has MU blood in his veins.  Not some f*** who gets bent out of shape on everything, and attacks people personally.

Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: withoutbias on January 23, 2021, 10:08:48 PM
And I’ll take the guy who has MU blood in his veins.  Not some f*** who gets bent out of shape on everything, and attacks people personally.

Oh my god the irony. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: MuggsyB on January 23, 2021, 10:10:00 PM
Folks do get a bit hostile here on occasion.  That's generally OK, we're all passionate about MU hoops.  Much like the country, some here like to sperate folks into one camp or the other.   But  much like reality, we've got hundreds of little camps, all with their own mind.  Disagreement is allowed.  We don't appreciate attacks against one another, but we kinda learn who can take it and who can't.  We don't like to moderate.

I appreciate that Rocky.  Occasionally I can be in attack mode and somewhat relentless.  But I don't personally attack anyone unless I am forced to defend myself.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 23, 2021, 10:20:20 PM
I don't personally attack anyone unless...

I should mention as a PSA - There can be lot of post volume here.  The "report to moderator" button is pretty much an anonymous hotline - we can't look at everything.  We don't care who clicks, or how many we have to look at, we'll take a look when we have time and deal with it then.  It doesn't necessarily mean the "reporter" gets their way.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: LastWarrior on January 24, 2021, 12:22:48 AM
Folks do get a bit hostile here on occasion.  That's generally OK, we're all passionate about MU hoops.  Much like the country, some here like to sperate folks into one camp or the other.   But  much like reality, we've got hundreds of little camps, all with their own mind.  Disagreement is allowed.  We don't appreciate attacks against one another, but we kinda learn who can take it and who can't.  We don't like to moderate.

Nice work Rocky!!  You are the founder of the site and your acceptance of multiple viewpoints is very much appreciated.  Hope you are well!!  Is Cos98 still around?!   ?-(
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Goose on January 24, 2021, 01:18:29 AM
Jockey

That is fair enough. Plus, I would have no idea on why Garcia only had four shots. I am not going to make comments on that question because I would be guessing. I would agree you should listen to Fluff because he definitely will offer his guess, on this topic and most topics.
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 24, 2021, 01:56:48 AM
Nice work Rocky!!  You are the founder of the site and your acceptance of multiple viewpoints is very much appreciated.  Hope you are well!!  Is Cos98 still around?!   ?-(

Last - been a LONG time!  Haven't talked to Cos since we were selling the "New Warrior" dream!
Title: Re: 4 Shots for Garcia?
Post by: Jockey on January 24, 2021, 10:51:39 AM
Jockey

That is fair enough. Plus, I would have no idea on why Garcia only had four shots. I am not going to make comments on that question because I would be guessing. I would agree you should listen to Fluff because he definitely will offer his guess, on this topic and most topics.

As I said, he and I have argued many times. But when he is in 'good" Fluff mode, he has some very astute opinions.

My opinion is that it is mostly on Garcia, but the players and coaches bear some responsibility.