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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: The Big East on January 13, 2021, 05:43:16 PM
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What was your favorite English Super Band ?
The Beatles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otrH5hxJ2GE
Led Zepplin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bv_ALKkTjQ
The Kinks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTsY-oz6Go
The Rolling Stones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbmS3tQJ7Os
The Who
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q&list=PLer6HEZnCnBtiZ8y7JNlbsk_vKin1pKFz&index=3
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Kind of wild to include the Kinks in here and not Pink Floyd or Queen. Very influential group, but not on the same level as the other 4 in my opinion.
I’ve never cared much for the Stones, the Beatles I appreciate their trailblazing but they’ve always been a bit repetitive for me. I liked The Who quite a bit for a time, but don’t find myself revisiting them much.
Zepplin on the other hand I adore. I dabbled when I was younger but have gained so much more appreciation over time. And that’s with thinking that Jimmy Page was probably the sloppiest soloist of the guitar icons of his day. But the brilliance of so many pieces of their songs, Bonham’s insane drum fills (parts of When the Levee Breaks are just silly), and the ambitious dreaminess of their lyrics. They get my vote hands down
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The correct answer is The Clash.
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How old do you have to be to fully appreciate this thread?
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The correct answer is The Clash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krl-2hgFrJU
Though I'm partial to London Calling
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Absolutely Queen for me
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Another vote for Zepplin, with Pink Floyd a photo finish away.
And yeah - Pink Floyd and Queen should definitely be on the list instead of the Kinks.
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How old do you have to be to fully appreciate this thread?
My daughter is 24, and Queen is her favorite band. Makes her daddy proud. 🥲
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U2.
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U2.
Uh oh...
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Zeppelin
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Uh oh...
None of the aforementioned move me. I could have gone with none of the above, I guess.
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Stones by a wide margin, then kinks and Super Tramp for me.
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None of the aforementioned move me. I could have gone with none of the above, I guess.
It's a geography thing
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Oasis. In the UK they were as big as the Beatles. 2.5 million people applied for tickets to see them at Knebworth in 1996. The sold out the England Be Here Now tour dates in 10 minutes.
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Zeppelin for me.
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Floyd and Zep.
Stones for most overrated.
The Kinks? GTFO.
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The Stones for me
Unless Europe 72 counts
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Herman's Hermits just can't get no respect.
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U2.
Then I guess my answer is The Pogues.
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Floyd and Zep.
Stones for most overrated.
The Kinks? GTFO.
LaLaLaLa Lola
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Oasis. In the UK they were as big as the Beatles. 2.5 million people applied for tickets to see them at Knebworth in 1996. The sold out the England Be Here Now tour dates in 10 minutes.
Oasis had a monster peak, but they were a shooting star. Their run was real only only 5 years from late 94 to the end of the 90s. By Standing on the Shoulders of Giants they lost 2 founding members and the album did ok by their standards, and then Heathen Chemistry was largely forgotten. They went from selling millions of albums outside the UK to 100-200K. And that was still early 2000s so streaming wars hadn’t begun in earnest.
Compare that to The Who or Zepplin who lasted a decade plus at their heights.
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Oasis had a monster peak, but they were a shooting star. Their run was real only only 5 years from late 94 to the end of the 90s. By Standing on the Shoulders of Giants they lost 2 founding members and the album did ok by their standards, and then Heathen Chemistry was largely forgotten. They went from selling millions of albums outside the UK to 100-200K. And that was still early 2000s so streaming wars hadn’t begun in earnest.
Compare that to The Who or Zepplin who lasted a decade plus at their heights.
Saw Oasis on the Brotherly Love Tour with Black Crowes and Spacehog.
I’ve probably seen close to a thousand live shows and that sticks out as the singular loudest.
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Yipes!
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Oasis had a monster peak, but they were a shooting star. Their run was real only only 5 years from late 94 to the end of the 90s. By Standing on the Shoulders of Giants they lost 2 founding members and the album did ok by their standards, and then Heathen Chemistry was largely forgotten. They went from selling millions of albums outside the UK to 100-200K. And that was still early 2000s so streaming wars hadn’t begun in earnest.
Compare that to The Who or Zepplin who lasted a decade plus at their heights.
Oasis helped define my college years at MU, so they mean more to me. Be Here Now came out my sophomore year, then I studied abroad in the UK my junior year and discovered some not released tracks here in the US. My senior year, I’m sure I probably blasted Go Let It Out! onto Wells Street. I’ll have Alexa play Oasis and forget how much I enjoyed most of their catalog.
They don’t belong on this list with the other bands here, but I sure do still enjoy them.
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Not to be that guy, but you spelled Zeppelin wrong...
But they are the answer. For me, for you, for everyone. Any other answer is wrong.
Individually, they were all supremely talented. Each of them better than their counterpart in any of the other bands mentioned, and the only ones that could even be argued would be Daltry and Mick over Plant, and of course Moon v Bonham is a matchup of the ages.
Each of Zeppelin's first 4 albums are iconic. A veritable playlist for what Rock and Roll means. They were great at everything. Songs that were just rock from the first note like Good Times Bad Times. Songs that were acoustic masterpieces, like Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You. Blues tunes like You Shook Me, and Rock legends that just freaking burn it up like Dazed and Confused. And man, that's just the first 4 tracks on Led Zeppelin I.
And while they have an entire catalog of great songs, so do some of the others on the list, what Zeppelin really doesn't have is the bad songs. The Stones have a million great songs, but they have a ton of terrible ones too. The Who, same way. Zeppelin really doesn't have any bad songs until what Presence? Their 7th album?
Transcendent talent? Check. Perfect blending of those talents? Check. Varied catalog from acoustic folk songs to reggae to surf rock to face melting guitar and drum solos? Check. Legendary live sets? Check.
Rock was perfected in Led Zeppelin.
But Floyd should be on the list, Black Sabbath for sure and Cream maybe?
For my top 5 I'd go:
Zeppelin
Stones
Who
Black Sabbath
Floyd
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U2.
Pretty sure Ireland is its own country.
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Herman's Hermits just can't get no respect.
“I’m Into Something Good” is a classic.
But when the title of the thread was “Super Band” I thought it was referring to a group like The Traveling Wilburys, where a bunch of stud musicians got together to write some music for the hell of it.
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Cream? Blind Faith?
From this list, Zeppelin of course... and by a large margin. But this list without Cream is like Clapton without a Guitar.
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Radiohead is a top 4 here.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/the-20-greatest-british-rock-bands-of-all-time-a3655391.html%3famp
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Cream? Blind Faith?
From this list, Zeppelin of course... and by a large margin. But this list without Cream is like Clapton without a Guitar.
Cream was extremely talented but not really a super band.
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Radiohead is a top 4 here.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/the-20-greatest-british-rock-bands-of-all-time-a3655391.html%3famp
I’m a huge music/concert guy. A couple years ago I had to go to Radiohead for work and it was by far the worst concert I’ve ever been to. Just not my style. Going into it I had an open mind and was actually kind of excited because I knew they had a cult following, but the show sucked.
I fully understand this is probably an unpopular opinion and maybe I caught them on a bad night but I did not enjoy the show
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Seriously, of those listed, I'd go with The Beatles and The Who. But I'd vote for Queen if listed and would probably also consider Pink Floyd for my second spot.
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Oasis. In the UK they were as big as the Beatles. 2.5 million people applied for tickets to see them at Knebworth in 1996. The sold out the England Be Here Now tour dates in 10 minutes.
I watched the pilot of Ted Lasso last night. One of the funnier throw-away lines was when the owner of the team referred to the coach's balls as "Liam and Noel."
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Cream? Blind Faith?
From this list, Zeppelin of course... and by a large margin. But this list without Cream is like Clapton without a Guitar.
At the time, Cream was definitely a huge group. Very influential.
The problem though is their music just really hasn't stood the test of time as well. Maybe its because they only lasted about five years, put out four albums. Or maybe it's because Clapton kind of overtook Cream's legacy when he came out with his own iconic album soon after.
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U2.
Adam Clayton's the only British one. Band was formed in Ireland and the other three are from Dublin.
To the main post logically it is the Beatles but I would argue The Who have had a longer lasting effect on rock music with the major introduction of power chords, playing at faster speeds and breaking their instruments you can hear the pre-punk influence. While Baba O'Reily and Won't get fooled again directly influenced arena rock.
Personally though it's the Kinks from that list. I'm Not Like Everybody Else was a banger way before it's time.
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Adam Clayton's the only British one. Band was formed in Ireland and the other three are from Dublin.
To the main post logically it is the Beatles but I would argue The Who have had a longer lasting effect on rock music with the major introduction of power chords, playing at faster speeds and breaking their instruments you can hear the pre-punk influence. While Baba O'Reily and Won't get fooled again directly influenced arena rock.
Personally though it's the Kinks from that list. I'm Not Like Everybody Else was a banger way before it's time.
Also, U2 sucks ass.
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Adam Clayton's the only British one. Band was formed in Ireland and the other three are from Dublin.
To the main post logically it is the Beatles but I would argue The Who have had a longer lasting effect on rock music with the major introduction of power chords, playing at faster speeds and breaking their instruments you can hear the pre-punk influence. While Baba O'Reily and Won't get fooled again directly influenced arena rock.
Personally though it's the Kinks from that list. I'm Not Like Everybody Else was a banger way before it's time.
Yeah, pretty sure this isn't true. Power chords like just everything else in terms of rock guitar, began with the blues, and pretty much Robert Johnson. Heck, you can look at this list and see the Kinks using power chords to perfection on their biggest hit( You Really Got Me), years before the Who recorded a song. But the use of power chords in rock and roll goes right to Chuck Berry, continues through Buddy Holly and through today. I don't think the Who have any claim to an introduction, or even proliferation, of power chords.
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Also, U2 sucks ass.
I like a handful of their songs (I Will Follow has a great post punk riff) but overall not my cup of tea.
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At the time, Cream was definitely a huge group. Very influential.
The problem though is their music just really hasn't stood the test of time as well. Maybe its because they only lasted about five years, put out four albums. Or maybe it's because Clapton kind of overtook Cream's legacy when he came out with his own iconic album soon after.
I completely agree. Cream was great, and I would even say they have lasting songs that hold up, but they were just too short lived to be with the others on this list.
Same for Blind Faith. Both Clapton and Winwood had their genius spread out over so many projects (Yardbirds, Bluesbreakers, Cream, Blind Faith, Derek and the Dominoes, and Solo for Clapton, and I'm probably missing something. And Spencer Davis, Bind Faith, Traffic and solo for Winwood).
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Yeah, pretty sure this isn't true. Power chords like just everything else in terms of rock guitar, began with the blues, and pretty much Robert Johnson. Heck, you can look at this list and see the Kinks using power chords to perfection on their biggest hit( You Really Got Me), years before the Who recorded a song. But the use of power chords in rock and roll goes right to Chuck Berry, continues through Buddy Holly and through today. I don't think the Who have any claim to an introduction, or even proliferation, of power chords.
a lot of credit is given to Townsend for being an early pioneer of writing full songs around power chords (or at least he claimed it in his bio) so I just figured I'd mention it with them.
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Adam Clayton's the only British one. Band was formed in Ireland and the other three are from Dublin.
To the main post logically it is the Beatles but I would argue The Who have had a longer lasting effect on rock music with the major introduction of power chords, playing at faster speeds and breaking their instruments you can hear the pre-punk influence. While Baba O'Reily and Won't get fooled again directly influenced arena rock.
Personally though it's the Kinks from that list. I'm Not Like Everybody Else was a banger way before it's time.
+1. For me The Who and The Kinks would be 1-2, but The Who would be number 1.
The older I get the less I like the Beatles, though I couldn't tell you why.
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Oasis had a monster peak, but they were a shooting star. Their run was real only only 5 years from late 94 to the end of the 90s. By Standing on the Shoulders of Giants they lost 2 founding members and the album did ok by their standards, and then Heathen Chemistry was largely forgotten. They went from selling millions of albums outside the UK to 100-200K. And that was still early 2000s so streaming wars hadn’t begun in earnest.
Compare that to The Who or Zepplin who lasted a decade plus at their heights.
plus Blur>Oasis from an influence perspective not from a hight of popularity perspective
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+1. For me The Who and The Kinks would be 1-2, but The Who would be number 1.
The older I get the less I like the Beatles, though I couldn't tell you why.
I've never really liked them. They have some good songs, but most of it is popish stuff that doesn't really interest me.
I also don't think its a coincidence that right after they left the stage, that bands like the Who and the Stones came out with their best albums, and others like Zeppelin started to emerge.
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a lot of credit is given to Townsend for being an early pioneer of writing full songs around power chords (or at least he claimed it in his bio) so I just figured I'd mention it with them.
Hmm. Didn't know that. Interesting. I'll have to do some further reading. Thanks!
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I’m a huge music/concert guy. A couple years ago I had to go to Radiohead for work and it was by far the worst concert I’ve ever been to. Just not my style. Going into it I had an open mind and was actually kind of excited because I knew they had a cult following, but the show sucked.
I fully understand this is probably an unpopular opinion and maybe I caught them on a bad night but I did not enjoy the show
I completely agree with this unpopular opinion.
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Then I guess my answer is The Pogues.
"Hi, this is Rocky O'Riordan, welcome to U2-X Radio."
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Then I guess my answer is The Pogues.
Hahaha nice
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plus Blur>Oasis from an influence perspective not from a hight of popularity perspective
Damon Albarn is a treasure to the human race. Musical genius, influential as hell, and wholly underappreciated for his contributions to state of music today.
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plus Blur>Oasis from an influence perspective not from a hight of popularity perspective
The Manchester band breakout happened in sync with the Seattle Grunge breakout. A great era of music.
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I completely agree with this unpopular opinion.
Yeah Radiohead is vastly overrated. Even Creep for everything it's worth isn't that great of a song.
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Also, U2 sucks ass.
Cmon.
I don't think they "suck" but I definitely liked them more in 1990 than I do today.
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I like all listed. I would list the Beatles first from the list.
I used to dislike Led Zeppelin, but their music aged well and grew on me the last 15-20 years and I really like them now. (It helped that my wife had the CD box set.)
The Kinks have one the best Christmas songs that never gets old, Father Christmas.
Pink Floyd thrown in by some they are just OK, although I can say "back in the day" as a kid I used to love Another Brick in The Wall.
I would take U2, of course, over all although they are not from the UK but Ireland. I'll let you know when U2-X Radio runs my "Desire" list.
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course Moon v Bonham is a matchup of the ages.
Bonham destroys Moon. The greatest thing to ever happen to Moon’s legacy was his untimely death. He was innovative with the double bass drum to be sure, but he was so sloppy, chaotic, and spastic. It worked with The Who, but he’s not someone people emulate. Bonham creates a standard so many drummers try to emulate and inspire by. Technically, he drummed circles around Moon.
Cmon.
I don't think they "suck" but I definitely liked them more in 1990 than I do today.
U2 in the early to mid 80s was awesome. They were a good band till the early 90s, then they became self indulgent twats and their music become schlock. I still think The Edge is a guitar genius, but the hate towards them is merited IMO.
Damon Albarn is a treasure to the human race. Musical genius, influential as hell, and wholly underappreciated for his contributions to state of music today.
Co-sign 1000%. Heck, I don’t even like Gorillaz and I marvel at how ahead of the time that project was and how influential it was. I feel like Albarn/Blur is gonna be like Brian Ferry and Roxy Music. Not as hyped and revered as other bands of the era, but every bit as monumental and influential.
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plus Blur almost every band known to exist>Oasis from an influence perspective not from a hight of popularity perspective
fixed it
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Cmon.
I don't think they "suck" but I definitely liked them more in 1990 than I do today.
I mean, it's just my opinion, but they're the one band that I will turn off every time they come on. Repetitive riffs, a guitarist that goes by "The Edge", and Bono's total lack of self awareness always struck me the wrong way. I understand other people love U2 (my wife, God help me) but I never cared for them in the least.
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I mean, it's just my opinion, but they're the one band that I will turn off every time they come on. Repetitive riffs, a guitarist that goes by "The Edge", and Bono's total lack of self awareness always struck me the wrong way. I understand other people love U2 (my wife, God help me) but I never cared for them in the least.
Out of curiousity have you given them a fair shake? I mean I'll be the first to admit How to Dismantle and Atomic Bomb is the most overrated album in my lifetime. And With or Without you is unbelievably over played. But have you gone back to their first album or two with an open mind?
Because in my mind if you write off those then you have to write off The Cure, Joy Division, New Order, Modern English, etc
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Out of curiousity have you given them a fair shake? I mean I'll be the first to admit How to Dismantle and Atomic Bomb is the most overrated album in my lifetime. And With or Without you is unbelievably over played. But have you gone back to their first album or two with an open mind?
Nope. Can't stand their hits, so I'm not digging into the deep cuts. The only thing I'll leave on is streets, and that is for obvious nostalgic reasons.
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Nope. Can't stand their hits, so I'm not digging into the deep cuts. The only thing I'll leave on is streets, and that is for obvious nostalgic reasons.
Fair enough. If you're even on a kick listening to The Cure then I'd suggest tossing on the album Boy and keeping an open mind.
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I mean, it's just my opinion, but they're the one band that I will turn off every time they come on. Repetitive riffs, a guitarist that goes by "The Edge", and Bono's total lack of self awareness always struck me the wrong way. I understand other people love U2 (my wife, God help me) but I never cared for them in the least.
I agree, but I actually used to like u2 at one time. Bands you instantly turn off sounds like another list.
1. Oasis
2. U2
3. Dave Matthews
4. Green Day
5. Blind melon
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I agree, but I actually used to like u2 at one time. Bands you instantly turn off sounds like another list.
1. Oasis
2. U2
3. Dave Matthews
4. Green Day
5. Blind melon
Woah woah woah have you seen them live? Changes this whole take.
Also Green Day is vastly overrated as a pop punk band, punk band, rock band, Broadway writers, and just generally sucks (exception: welcome to paradise)
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Woah woah woah have you seen them live? Changes this whole take.
Also Green Day is vastly overrated as a pop punk band, punk band, rock band, Broadway writers, and just generally sucks (exception: welcome to paradise)
I know Dave Matthews has a huge almost Grateful dead like cult following for the live shows, but something about the music I can’t stand.
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No Genesis love, hey?
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Yeah Radiohead is vastly overrated. Even Creep for everything it's worth isn't that great of a song.
Everything post Kid A is too much for me but pre Kid A......they were fantastic. The Bends is one of the best albums ever IMHO
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Cmon.
I don't think they "suck" but I definitely liked them more in 1990 than I do today.
There are definitely different eras of U2. 1980 to 1989 U2 is incredible. I still think Joshua Tree is among the best albums ever. Achtung Baby was a departure from their previous stuff, Zooropa a further departure then Pop was a "WTF" album (I was living in Ireland when "Discotecque" came out and people there didn't know what to think about it). All That You Can't Leave Behind and How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb were a semi-return to their 80's roots. After that, it's been just coasting off their past success.
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I know Dave Matthews has a huge almost Grateful dead like cult following for the live shows, but something about the music I can’t stand.
Comparing Dave to the Dead is criminal
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There are definitely different eras of U2. 1980 to 1989 U2 is incredible. I still think Joshua Tree is among the best albums ever. Achtung Baby was a departure from their previous stuff, Zooropa a further departure then Pop was a "WTF" album (I was living in Ireland when "Discotecque" came out and people there didn't know what to think about it). All That You Can't Leave Behind and How To Dismantle an Atomic Bomb were a semi-return to their 80's roots. After that, it's been just coasting off their past success.
The 20-teens Songs of Innocence and Songs of Experience are great and their best since Achtung Baby.
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I agree, but I actually used to like u2 at one time. Bands you instantly turn off sounds like another list.
1. Oasis
2. U2
3. Dave Matthews
4. Green Day
5. Blind melon
Ha! This is fun. How often is Blind Melon coming on?
I'd go:
Rush
Queen
Dave Matthews
Grateful Dead
Nickelback
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Woah woah woah have you seen them live? Changes this whole take.
No, and why??? Hey, I hate this band. It sounds like cats fighting to a stupid saxophone. Can I please pay money to be forced to listen to them for 2 hours? Yeah, I don't think so.
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Woah woah woah have you seen them live? Changes this whole take.
Also Green Day is vastly overrated as a pop punk band, punk band, rock band, Broadway writers, and just generally sucks (exception: welcome to paradise)
Been listening to the DMB XM station lately, totally got me back into their live stuff.
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No, and why??? Hey, I hate this band. It sounds like cats fighting to a stupid saxophone. Can I please pay money to be forced to listen to them for 2 hours? Yeah, I don't think so.
I can't even argue this the metaphor cracked me up too much.
Comparing Dave to the Dead is criminal
Yeah Dave is much better.
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Ha! This is fun. How often is Blind Melon coming on?
I'd go:
Rush
Queen
Dave Matthews
Grateful Dead
Nickelback
I agree entirely with Rush Queen and Grateful Dead. I have a couple guilty pleasure exceptions with Nickelback but overall agree on them to.
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I can't even argue this the metaphor cracked me up too much.
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Ironically, bands I always turn off...
Led Zeppelin
Rolling Stones
Beatles
Cars
Any prog-rock 70s
Almost any disco
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1. Queen
2. Rush
3. Guns N' Roses
4. Iron Maiden
5. Grateful Dead
I have a few exceptions for the dead GnR & Queen each have one as well but overall that's my immediately turn off list.
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Ironically, bands I always turn off...
Led Zeppelin
Rolling Stones
Beatles
Cars
Any prog-rock 70s
Almost any disco
They just don't give you no satisfaction?
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And they definitely don't start me up.
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Gimme Shelter is completely amazing. Probably my favorite song ever. Its a perfect song.
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Gimme Shelter is completely amazing. Probably my favorite song ever. Its a perfect song.
It is what they ended with two years ago in Chicago. Quite the atmosphere.
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1. Queen
2. Rush
3. Guns N' Roses
4. Iron Maiden
5. Grateful Dead
I have a few exceptions for the dead GnR & Queen each have one as well but overall that's my immediately turn off list.
Boy, I sure do love me some Maiden. I just think they're so fun. And man, talk about a live show, 10 foot robot walking around stage? Pyrotechnics, Guitars swinging around in unison and Bruce Dickenson sprinting all around everywhere while singing? So fun. I think it was Moe Szyslak that said, "Its good to see the spectacle back in rock."
But I completely get how they aren't everyone's jam.
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1. Queen
2. Rush
3. Guns N' Roses
4. Iron Maiden
5. Grateful Dead
I have a few exceptions for the dead GnR & Queen each have one as well but overall that's my immediately turn off list.
Where are you that Iron Maiden randomly comes on? That’s not exactly standard crowd music ;D
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Gimme Shelter is completely amazing. Probably my favorite song ever. Its a perfect song.
IMO it is *the* quintessential classic rock song.
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And I will say this, the string of four albums the Stones put out in five years (Beggar's Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street) is about a great a stretch of music for one band to put out in such a short time frame.
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1. Queen
2. Rush
3. Guns N' Roses
4. Iron Maiden
5. Grateful Dead
I have a few exceptions for the dead GnR & Queen each have one as well but overall that's my immediately turn off list.
Same except for GnR. I'd substitute iron maiden for anything Ozzy.
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I mean, it's just my opinion, but they're the one band that I will turn off every time they come on. Repetitive riffs, a guitarist that goes by "The Edge", and Bono's total lack of self awareness always struck me the wrong way. I understand other people love U2 (my wife, God help me) but I never cared for them in the least.
Watch "This Might Get Loud" with Page, Jack white and the edge. The edge is embarrassing.
I do like U2 but not for the Edge's guitar chops.
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I agree, but I actually used to like u2 at one time. Bands you instantly turn off sounds like another list.
1. Oasis
2. U2
3. Dave Matthews
4. Green Day
5. Blind melon
I can't say I have an "instantly turn off" band since many have at least a few good songs to listen too. However, when we're in the car I have to instantly turn off The Beatles as my wife absolutely detests them. Well, other than Blind Melon from your list, they just have one song which sucks.
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Watch "This Might Get Loud" with Page, Jack white and the edge. The edge is embarrassing.
I do like U2 but not for the Edge's guitar chops.
Yeah that grouping is definitely "one of these doesn't belong".
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Where are you that Iron Maiden randomly comes on? That’s not exactly standard crowd music ;D
Breweries and dive bars mostly 🤗 and whenever I'm in the middle of nowhere WI there's a station that seemingly plays endless stream of hair metal.
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Ah, another instant turn it off for me is anything from any of the CSNY group, except the Hollies oddly enough.
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Same except for GnR. I'd substitute iron maiden for anything Ozzy.
Really? Man. I'm the only thing close to a metal guy on here at all huh? Black Sabbath is so cool to me. They basically invented a genre. There are so many bands, especially from the 70s-80s that owe their existence to Sabbath. They had to develop their style around Tony Iommi, who lost a couple of fingertips in a factory accident. So he tuned his guitar down, and played a lot of sliding barre chords, and thus metal was born. Great story of persistence and determination on his part. He was literally told he would never play again as like a 18 year old or something.
And Ozzy, man, well, I'm a fan, though I don't listen to him as much as I used to. And I love that he went from Tony Iommi, to Randy Rhodes, and eventually to Zakk Wylde. That guy has sang with some monster guitar players.
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Kind of wild to include the Kinks in here and not Pink Floyd or Queen. Very influential group, but not on the same level as the other 4 in my opinion.
The Kinks should definitely be on the list if we are talking about most influential bands from the UK.
First, for their popularization of power chords. Link Wray used them earlier and probably some early electric blues guys, but both Davies' brothers made them a staple of rock music. Secondly, they were an early band that made social commentary a big part of their music.
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U2.
Bingo!!
They are a clear #1 for me.
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I'll just put this here, its kinda fun
https://youtu.be/rwhvFLHIlBs
Zakk Wylde playing Black Sabbath on a toy pink hello kitty guitar.
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Also, U2 sucks ass.
Now it's clear. I finally understand why you disagree with me all the time :)
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Bingo!!
They are a clear #1 for me.
Ireland Still not part of the UK.
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Watch "This Might Get Loud" with Page, Jack white and the edge. The edge is embarrassing.
I do like U2 but not for the Edge's guitar chops.
Edge is one of my favorite guitarists. I'm a minimalist when it comes to guitar players. I have no use for the Eddie Van Halen style gymnastics (yes, I recognize he is a great player). It's the same thing that makes Richards/Wood so great. I really don't care how fast they can go up and down the fretboard. It's about playing what the song demands.
Everything Edge plays is about the song and the feeling it is trying to evoke. One might even say that what Edge does on guitar is as pompous as what Bono does with vocals. But it works.
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Ireland Still not part of the UK.
I know, Galway. But we're arrogant Americans who lump entire regions together. 8-)
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I know, Galway. But we're arrogant Americans who lump entire regions together. 8-)
Oh in that case my favorite American band is The Guess Who or Rush
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The Kinks should definitely be on the list if we are talking about most influential bands from the UK.
First, for their popularization of power chords. Link Wray used them earlier and probably some early electric blues guys, but both Davies' brothers made them a staple of rock music. Secondly, they were an early band that made social commentary a big part of their music.
Link Wray is a visionary. Rumble is a great tune especially for the era.
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Edge is one of my favorite guitarists. I'm a minimalist when it comes to guitar players. I have no use for the Eddie Van Halen style gymnastics (yes, I recognize he is a great player). It's the same thing that makes Richards/Wood so great. I really don't care how fast they can go up and down the fretboard. It's about playing what the song demands.
Everything Edge plays is about the song and the feeling it is trying to evoke. One might even say that what Edge does on guitar is as pompous as what Bono does with vocals. But it works.
1 note and 15 echoes isn't guitar music, sorry.
U2 is unique and that's why i like them. Their overall sound is what makes them good.
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1 note and 15 echoes isn't guitar music, sorry.
U2 is unique and that's why i like them. Their overall sound is what makes them good.
You're obviously exaggerating, but your point is well made. But, while they have a great rhythm section, Edge ties it all together.
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Oh in that case my favorite American band is The Guess Who or Rush
Well done!
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Edge is one of my favorite guitarists. I'm a minimalist when it comes to guitar players. I have no use for the Eddie Van Halen style gymnastics (yes, I recognize he is a great player). It's the same thing that makes Richards/Wood so great. I really don't care how fast they can go up and down the fretboard. It's about playing what the song demands.
Everything Edge plays is about the song and the feeling it is trying to evoke. One might even say that what Edge does on guitar is as pompous as what Bono does with vocals. But it works.
I wouldn't say Edge is minimalist at all. In fact, I can't think of a guitarist that uses more effects than he does.
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I wouldn't say Edge is minimalist at all. In fact, I can't think of a guitarist that uses more effects than he does.
Ummm Ed Sheehan?
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I wouldn't say Edge is minimalist at all. In fact, I can't think of a guitarist that uses more effects than he does.
I can think of 10 immediately.
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Ummm Ed Sheehan?
Hahaha. Well, I never think of Ed Sheeran at all, so that explains that.
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I can think of 10 immediately.
Cool. Shoot.
Tom Morello. OK. But even like the aforementioned EVH used fewer effects.
Everything is just so produced for them. Idk. I'm not a person that dislikes u2, quite the opposite though.
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I can't pick any single band as my favorite. Zep was OK, I've always been a big fan of the Kinks and probably have more albums and CDs of theirs than most even know existed, even their late 70's like Misfits and Low Budget have great songs. Muswell Hillbillies would be my favorite Kinks LP.
No mentions of Deep Purple, the Faces or (Peter Green's) Fleetwood Mac?
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Ironically, bands I always turn off...
Led Zeppelin
Rolling Stones
Beatles
Cars
Any prog-rock 70s
Almost any disco
Zeppelin?
Wow - Covid really did mess with your taste. ;D
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Cool. Shoot.
Tom Morello. OK. But even like the aforementioned EVH used fewer effects.
Everything is just so produced for them. Idk. I'm not a person that dislikes u2, quite the opposite though.
Since you mentioned Tom, I'll do 9
Matthew Bellamy - Muse
John Fruschantie (sp) - RHCP
Andy Summers - The Police
St. Vincent
Mike Einzinger - Incubus
David Gilmour - Pink Floyd
Jack White
John Mayer
Slash - GnR
Okay, to be fair, I think I'm placing a lot of my bias against The Edge here, but these are great examples of effects players... Especially Matt Bellamy
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Since you mentioned Tom, I'll do 9
Matthew Bellamy - Muse
John Fruschantie (sp) - RHCP
Andy Summers - The Police
St. Vincent
Mike Einzinger - Incubus
David Gilmour - Pink Floyd
Jack White
John Mayer
Slash - GnR Velvet Revolver
Okay, to be fair, I think I'm placing a lot of my bias against The Edge here, but these are great examples of effects players... Especially Matt Bellamy
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I still think Joshua Tree is among the best albums ever.
Seeing the Joshua Tree anniversary tour in 2017 is probably my favorite concert. It's an album I really liked* and also is really nostalgic because it was my senior year of HS. They started with a few of their classic songs, then played the entire Joshua Tree album in order, then played a bunch more of their classics. I took my oldest daughter the summer after she graduated HS and she loved it. It started a mini-tradition of taking my daughters to a concert the summer before they go to college -- just me and them -- their pick.
*Interestingly, that concert reminded me how different it was listening to songs in a specific order. That's something my kids really don't understand...how when you hear one song end your brain immediately moves shifts to the next song on the album. It also reminded how I used to listen to CDs just starting at the beginning and often didn't make it past the first 4 or 5 tracks. Although I had obviously heard them, I wasn't nearly as familiar with the later tracks to Joshua Tree which are now some of my favorites on that album.
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Since you mentioned Tom, I'll do 9
Matthew Bellamy - Muse
John Fruschantie (sp) - RHCP
Andy Summers - The Police
St. Vincent
Mike Einzinger - Incubus
David Gilmour - Pink Floyd
Jack White
John Mayer
Slash - GnR
Okay, to be fair, I think I'm placing a lot of my bias against The Edge here, but these are great examples of effects players... Especially Matt Bellamy
There's a big difference in using effects to create your tone (Gilmour) and using it as your style (The Edge).
Every guitarist uses effect of some kind or another, some just rely on them more.
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Seeing the Joshua Tree anniversary tour in 2017 is probably my favorite concert. It's an album I really liked* and also is really nostalgic because it was my senior year of HS. They started with a few of their classic songs, then played the entire Joshua Tree album in order, then played a bunch more of their classics. I took my oldest daughter the summer after she graduated HS and she loved it. It started a mini-tradition of taking my daughters to a concert the summer before they go to college -- just me and them -- their pick.
*Interestingly, that concert reminded me how different it was listening to songs in a specific order. That's something my kids really don't understand...how when you hear one song end your brain immediately moves shifts to the next song on the album. It also reminded how I used to listen to CDs just starting at the beginning and often didn't make it past the first 4 or 5 tracks. Although I had obviously heard them, I wasn't nearly as familiar with the later tracks to Joshua Tree which are now some of my favorites on that album.
Incredible concert. I got Joshua Tree in 5th grade. And, of course, no MU fan could not clap along with the intro to Streets. What I liked most about that concert was that it was about the music front and center. I'd been to the 360 tour and it was more about the spectacle. Joshua Tree was not.
Fun fact: that tour was the first time they'd ever played "Red Hill Mining Town" live. it was supposed to be their third single released off of JT and had a video filmed. But, Bono couldn't hit the high notes in rehearsals so they went with "I Still Haven't Found" and they never played Red Hill live. That was always one of my favorite songs from that album.
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Since you mentioned Tom, I'll do 9
Matthew Bellamy - Muse
John Fruschantie (sp) - RHCP
Andy Summers - The Police
St. Vincent
Mike Einzinger - Incubus
David Gilmour - Pink Floyd
Jack White
John Mayer
Slash - GnR
Okay, to be fair, I think I'm placing a lot of my bias against The Edge here, but these are great examples of effects players... Especially Matt Bellamy
For the most part, and I can't claim to be completely familiar with all of these guys, but most of them were primarily just using distortion. Slash, Gilmour, the Police, RHCP, I don't think those guys used near the electronics that the Edge used to get his sound. Those guys are in many cases, just using a distortion pedal (or on the head of the amp) and some reverb (especially Gilmour). Maybe that's just semantics and how we are viewing different effects. I could be completely off base and just thinking too much of Achtung Baby.
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Velvet Revolver. GTFO.
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There's a big difference in using effects to create your tone (Gilmour) and using it as your style (The Edge).
Every guitarist uses effect of some kind or another, some just rely on them more.
Yes. this is much more succinct way of saying what I was trying to say.
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Velvet Revolver. GTFO.
😂 I recently watched an interview where slash and duff said how happy they were when someone recognized them and said "oh you're the guys from velvet revolver!" Rather than GnR
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😂 I recently watched an interview where slash and duff said how happy they were when someone recognized them and said "oh you're the guys from velvet revolver!" Rather than GnR and how they both were happy that happened.
Hahaha. That's great. Probably anything to not be associated with Axl at this point.
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If we're going to allow U2, I want to enter a vote for AC/DC.
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If we're going to allow U2, I want to enter a vote for AC/DC.
For what, recycling riffs? Shallow lyrics?
Sure its fun the first couple of times, but they've made a killing off of very little... just my snobby opinion.
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For what, recycling riffs? Shallow lyrics?
Sure its fun the first couple of times, but they've made a killing off of very little... just my snobby opinion.
It was just a joke piling on to the geography thing...at least I didn't say KISS.
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For what, recycling riffs? Shallow lyrics?
Sure its fun the first couple of times, but they've made a killing off of very little... just my snobby opinion.
AC/DC is like a line of coke. Fun every now and then but too much will give you a headache.
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For the most part, and I can't claim to be completely familiar with all of these guys, but most of them were primarily just using distortion. Slash, Gilmour, the Police, RHCP, I don't think those guys used near the electronics that the Edge used to get his sound. Those guys are in many cases, just using a distortion pedal (or on the head of the amp) and some reverb (especially Gilmour). Maybe that's just semantics and how we are viewing different effects. I could be completely off base and just thinking too much of Achtung Baby.
If you haven't listened to Muse ever, I can't recommend them enough... but more the earlier albums, Origin of Symmetry and Absolution are amazing. Blackholes and Revelations is really good too, but after that I think things just get okay. 2nd Law and Resistance are pretty good... but I seriously dislike Drones... almost killed the band for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI&list=OLAK5uy_mTXse5jJpNyu8P51L13nUPgceUnZKBzX8&index=11
They're really fantastic live too. Sound quality is always amazing... something I can't say for quite a few shows I've been to.
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Thanks, I'll check them out more. I think the only song I know is the one from Guitar Hero. Haha.
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Thanks, I'll check them out more. I think the only song I know is the one from Guitar Hero. Haha.
Ha, of course, and its the one I posted.
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Seeing the Joshua Tree anniversary tour in 2017 is probably my favorite concert. It's an album I really liked* and also is really nostalgic because it was my senior year of HS. They started with a few of their classic songs, then played the entire Joshua Tree album in order, then played a bunch more of their classics. I took my oldest daughter the summer after she graduated HS and she loved it. It started a mini-tradition of taking my daughters to a concert the summer before they go to college -- just me and them -- their pick.
*Interestingly, that concert reminded me how different it was listening to songs in a specific order. That's something my kids really don't understand...how when you hear one song end your brain immediately moves shifts to the next song on the album. It also reminded how I used to listen to CDs just starting at the beginning and often didn't make it past the first 4 or 5 tracks. Although I had obviously heard them, I wasn't nearly as familiar with the later tracks to Joshua Tree which are now some of my favorites on that album.
Saw U2 on the original Joshua Tree tour at Rosemont. Definitely one of the best concerts I've ever seen (Early Pink Floyd w/ Syd and early Deep Purple rank up there). Bare white stage. Bodeans were opening act.
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Motley crue. Lock it mods.
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Motley crue. Lock it mods.
Do they kickstart your heart?
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There's a big difference in using effects to create your tone (Gilmour) and using it as your style (The Edge).
Every guitarist uses effect of some kind or another, some just rely on them more.
I get what you're saying. Gilmour's guitar sounds pure, but very much the same from song to song.
Whereas you're saying The Edge changes his up more frequently? Correct?
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I get what you're saying. Gilmour's guitar sounds pure, but very much the same from song to song.
Whereas you're saying The Edge changes his up more frequently? Correct?
The edge relies on electronic effects more than Gilmour.
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Gimme Shelter is completely amazing. Probably my favorite song ever. Its a perfect song.
Rape....Murder....it’s just a shot away, it’s just a shot away.
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Rape....Murder....it’s just a shot away, it’s just a shot away.
Not a fan of the Peas, but Mick & Fergie did a killer Gimme Shelter.
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The edge relies on electronic effects more than Gilmour.
Not only with his pedals, but he has a full time effects man backstage doing his thing while Edge is playing + swapping out brands of guitars almost every song.
Don't imagine we'll ever hear him on a Rickenbacker, though.