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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: shoothoops on January 10, 2021, 01:20:46 PM
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The PGA ia removing the 2022 PGA Championship from Trump's course:
https://www.nj.com/sports/2021/01/pga-will-strip-trump-bedminster-of-2022-pga-championship-insider-says.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
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Figured it would happen. Surprised it happened so quickly.
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https://twitter.com/angry__saint/status/1348350058861797376?s=19
I couldn't find a 2nd source, so take with a grain of salt.
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https://twitter.com/angry__saint/status/1348350058861797376?s=19
I couldn't find a 2nd source, so take with a grain of salt.
That one is false. There is no current lifetime ban for DT on the table. (Hopefully that will change at some point.)
A follow up to 2022 post above:
https://twitter.com/AlanShipnuck/status/1348415912236339200?s=19
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PGA of America decided to not to wait until DT left office, and decided to do it tonight.
https://twitter.com/PGA/status/1348464912729780231?s=19
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And Trump Turnberry out of the Open rotation as well for now. I think this stuff hurt him more than regular folks think because he always wanted one of his name courses to get a major.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/30692122/trump-turnberry-host-open-foreseeable-future-ra-announces
On another note, is there a more picturesque view than coming down the 18th hole at the Plantation Course? If I get back to Hawaii I'm going to do my best to play that course.
(https://golfdigest.sports.sndimg.com/content/dam/images/golfdigest/fullset/2016/02/01/56afdf9dd407c40706679cb6_Kapalua-18th-hole.jpg.rend.hgtvcom.966.544.suffix/1573392892050.jpeg)
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I was getting a severe case of wanderlust watching Kapalua. Moreso than usual.
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Has anybody had a chance to watch the new Tiger Woods documentary? Also, does anyone have a home golf simulator? I'm in the process of building a new garage and looking at adding a Uneekor eye xo simulator in it.
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I hope they can move it to Whistling Straits. It was a huge loss for the local economy here to lose the PGA last year.
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I hope they can move it to Whistling Straits. It was a huge loss for the local economy here to lose the PGA last year.
The Ryder Cup was to have been at WS last year. It was rescheduled for 2021.
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The Ryder Cup was to have been at WS last year. It was rescheduled for 2021.
You're right it was Ryder, it was PGA a few years back.
Well maybe Blackwolf Run could host it. They are also trying to build a brand new course on the south side of Sheboygan with the intent of having it host large PGA tournaments.
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Moving the PGA Championship to May effectively eliminates the upper midwest from hosting it.
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Moving the PGA Championship to May effectively eliminates the upper midwest from hosting it.
I’m kind of curious what happens next for Whistling Straits after the Ryder Cup. Unless the PGA gets moved back to August, I don’t think they ever get another major.
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Has anybody had a chance to watch the new Tiger Woods documentary? Also, does anyone have a home golf simulator? I'm in the process of building a new garage and looking at adding a Uneekor eye xo simulator in it.
My soon to be BIL has a facility with a pair of TrackMan simulators. They are incredible, obviously a bit pricier, but he used to have a Uneekor at his parents house which got him thinking and leading to the facility he has now. The putting is a bit weird to get used to, but otherwise they are fantastic and fun to play.
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Started watching the Tiger doc. Good so far, but haven't seen much of it yet.
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I’m kind of curious what happens next for Whistling Straits after the Ryder Cup. Unless the PGA gets moved back to August, I don’t think they ever get another major.
Not on the men's side, no.
Women's PGA, maybe? Erin Hills is getting the women's Open in 2025.
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I’m kind of curious what happens next for Whistling Straits after the Ryder Cup. Unless the PGA gets moved back to August, I don’t think they ever get another major.
They don’t really need to host a major.
I’d just like if Chicago/Milwaukee had a regular tour stop again.
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They don’t really need to host a major.
I’d just like if Chicago/Milwaukee had a regular tour stop again.
It is insane that Chicago doesn't have a tour event. Tens of thousands of fans packed Cog Hill every single year. There were people calling the Western Open "the 5th major."
And now, Chicago doesn't have a tour event?
I know ... it all comes down to an advertiser willing to pony up the big bucks. Surprised that hasn't happened, either, with all the bazillion-dollar corporations there.
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They don’t really need to host a major.
I’d just like if Chicago/Milwaukee had a regular tour stop again.
The BMW has been in Chicago recently.
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My thinking on attending a professional golf tournament has always been if I have 5 hours free to go watch others play golf, I'd rather just go play a round of golf myself.
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Tigers career is over.
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Tigers career is over.
Probably, but the usually suspects will still be out here saying he looks great whenever he hits a good drive and will win another 5 majors
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Probably, but the usually suspects will still be out here saying he looks great whenever he hits a good drive and will win another 5 majors
I hope he breaks the record for PGA tour wins and most majors. I've always been a tiger fan.
But he's now had multiple microdiscs (we don't know which levels) and 1 fusion. Then now another microdisc (has to be at least one additional level beyond the fusion). All within a few years?
As someone with extensive spine experience, it would be a miracle if he can continue to compete with the best in the game with how thoroughly and quickly his back is breaking down. (Not to mention his knee history)
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The BMW has been in Chicago recently.
Six of the last 10 have been in Chicago. Not really a 'regular PGA stop' at all.
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It is insane that Chicago doesn't have a tour event. Tens of thousands of fans packed Cog Hill every single year. There were people calling the Western Open "the 5th major."
And now, Chicago doesn't have a tour event?
I know ... it all comes down to an advertiser willing to pony up the big bucks. Surprised that hasn't happened, either, with all the bazillion-dollar corporations there.
Butler or Bust!!!!!!
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I hope he breaks the record for PGA tour wins and most majors. I've always been a tiger fan.
But he's now had multiple microdiscs (we don't know which levels) and 1 fusion. Then now another microdisc (has to be at least one additional level beyond the fusion). All within a few years?
As someone with extensive spine experience, it would be a miracle if he can continue to compete with the best in the game with how thoroughly and quickly his back is breaking down. (Not to mention his knee history)
Based on your medical experience, is this a case where Tiger has to stop playing PGA level tournaments or is it a case where he can play tournaments with a compromised physical level of play?
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Based on your medical experience, is this a case where Tiger has to stop playing PGA level tournaments or is it a case where he can play tournaments with a compromised physical level of play?
My hypothesis is his spine will continue to be bothersome enough to him that he won't be able to compete at the necessary level due to physical limitations.
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Butler or Bust!!!!!!
I don't know what's going on at Butler now, but it was their discriminatory policies - and their robust defense of those policies - that led them to lose the Western Open. Maybe they've changed. I never got a chance to play Butler, but I have heard it's an amazing track.
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I don't know what's going on at Butler now, but it was their discriminatory policies - and their robust defense of those policies - that led them to lose the Western Open. Maybe they've changed. I never got a chance to play Butler, but I have heard it's an amazing track.
Played it twice. Once in the group behind MJ. Still the best all in golf experience of my life.
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Moving the PGA Championship to May effectively eliminates the upper midwest from hosting it.
It didn’t stop them from having the event at Bethpage in May. Of course that was already booked in the schedule .
I think if the Ryder Cup goes well in September , a PGA is still possible at Whistling Straits in May.
They may also now be on consideration for a US Open.
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A PGA Championship in the midwest in May would be fine. A PGA Championship on the shores of Lake Michigan in May could be really chilly.
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A PGA Championship in the midwest in May would be fine. A PGA Championship on the shores of Lake Michigan in May could be really chilly.
I agree it could be chilly. But would be any different than mid September ? I think the feedback from the players at The Ryder Cup will be a one factor in a decision by the PGA to host the event in May.
Oak Hill in Rochester NY is hosting 2023 PGA. They are about 38 miles from Lake Ontario and it is not necessarily always good weather at the time in upstate NY
The future big events at Whistling straights are likely to be USGA championships which are in June and July
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It didn’t stop them from having the event at Bethpage in May. Of course that was already booked in the schedule .
I think if the Ryder Cup goes well in September , a PGA is still possible at Whistling Straits in May.
They may also now be on consideration for a US Open.
When is the last time you spent hours next to Lake Michigan in May? Particularly golfing?
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I agree it could be chilly. But would be any different than mid September ?
Tremendously different. Mid May in Wisconsin is oftentimes nice but occasionally really cool. Especially on Lake Michigan.
Mid September is the best weather around, and is just as nice next to the Lake.
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The Kohler properties are aligned with the PGA. They have no chance at a USGA event unless that changes, it won’t.
Erin Hills will have another Open before WS.
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When is the last time you spent hours next to Lake Michigan in May? Particularly golfing?
2 Weeks before Christmas this year. Jackson Park. Walked 18. Frost warning. Got up to low 40s.
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A PGA Championship in the midwest in May would be fine. A PGA Championship on the shores of Lake Michigan in May could be really chilly.
The agronomy will not allow a PGA Championship at Whistling Straits again. I believe all contracts between the PGA and Kohler end with this Ryder Cup. On top of that, all PGA sites are scheduled through 2031.
I don’t believe the USGA will choose to host the Open at any Kohler property, though. The only appealing thing about the Straits is how many people it can hold but the professionals tear it apart. If the wind isn’t blowing, it has no defense unless you pinch the fairways and grow the rough and fescue way up and then that takes away from what the course is supposed to be. Problem is, it’s not a true links course though it pretends to be.
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I was about 3 miles inland on this side of the lake on December 11. All of the hardy souls. Golf course making money hand over fist and running out of carts. I was walking. You never know when the season is GOI g to end so you have to take advantage.
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The agronomy will not allow a PGA Championship at Whistling Straits again. I believe all contracts between the PGA and Kohler end with this Ryder Cup. On top of that, all PGA sites are scheduled through 2031.
I don’t believe the USGA will choose to host the Open at any Kohler property, though. The only appealing thing about the Straits is how many people it can hold but the professionals tear it apart. If the wind isn’t blowing, it has no defense unless you pinch the fairways and grow the rough and fescue way up and then that takes away from what the course is supposed to be. Problem is, it’s not a true links course though it pretends to be.
Right. A links course allows for the ground game. WS does not. It is a beautiful lakeside course, like Arcadia Bluffs on the Michigan side.
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Right. A links course allows for the ground game. WS does not. It is a beautiful lakeside course, like Arcadia Bluffs on the Michigan side.
Quite frankly, out of all the world class courses that have opened in the last 25 years in Wisconsin, the Straits might be the worst of them.
I’d take Sand Valley courses and Erin Hills over it from a playing perspective. No doubt it’s a stunning course and challenge for the average golfer but I don’t think it stands up to the others as bang for your buck. I’m playing all of them this June except the Straits (It’s closed and I’m playing the Irish instead) and missing the Straits is, eh.
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I hope he breaks the record for PGA tour wins and most majors. I've always been a tiger fan.
But he's now had multiple microdiscs (we don't know which levels) and 1 fusion. Then now another microdisc (has to be at least one additional level beyond the fusion). All within a few years?
As someone with extensive spine experience, it would be a miracle if he can continue to compete with the best in the game with how thoroughly and quickly his back is breaking down. (Not to mention his knee history)
'Roids are a bitch, hey?
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Watching the comparative body language between Jessica Korda and Danielle Kang as they prepared to play the 18th hole the first time yesterday, it was obvious who was going to win. Jessica was singing along and bopping a little bit to the music they were playing. Danielle, who had seen her lead slip away, was very intense.
I thought that Danielle might have a chance before the first playoff hole when I saw her talking on her phone walking to the tee for the playoff hole. She hit a good shot. But when Jessica dropped her birdie putt bomb, it was pretty obvious from the body language that Danielle was going to miss. She hit a decent putt, one that no one could really get upset about, but one that was never going in.
Jessica clearly was enjoying the moment more than Danielle, even before the putt went in.
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Tower, any recommendations for courses in Northwest Michigan like Arcadia/Frankfort area.
Gonna be up there in July. As much as I would love to play Arcadia Bluffs, don’t wanna spend $220 a round.
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Inexpensive golf and northwest michigan in the summer are mutually exclusive concepts.
Check out Champion Hill. Mistwood is basic golf a bit of a drive from there. Manistee National. None are actually cheap.
And if you have the money to spend for Arcadia, spend it.
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Inexpensive golf and northwest michigan in the summer are mutually exclusive concepts.
Check out Champion Hill. Mistwood is basic golf a bit of a drive from there. Manistee National. None are actually cheap.
And if you have the money to spend for Arcadia, spend it.
Yea, that’s fair enough. When I was younger I would always go to Pinecroft when I’m up there but since I’ve gotten a little better/more consistent I’ve tried to explore some new courses.
May just have to bit the bullet for Arcadia.
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Watching the comparative body language between Jessica Korda and Danielle Kang as they prepared to play the 18th hole the first time yesterday, it was obvious who was going to win. Jessica was singing along and bopping a little bit to the music they were playing. Danielle, who had seen her lead slip away, was very intense.
I thought that Danielle might have a chance before the first playoff hole when I saw her talking on her phone walking to the tee for the playoff hole. She hit a good shot. But when Jessica dropped her birdie putt bomb, it was pretty obvious from the body language that Danielle was going to miss. She hit a decent putt, one that no one could really get upset about, but one that was never going in.
Jessica clearly was enjoying the moment more than Danielle, even before the putt went in.
I couldn't believe how bad that phone call had to be mentally. I'd love to know if she was calling Mav, swing coach, NetJets? Imagine Stafford pulling out a cell phone during the coin toss for overtime football.
Weird all around.
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Yea, that’s fair enough. When I was younger I would always go to Pinecroft when I’m up there but since I’ve gotten a little better/more consistent I’ve tried to explore some new courses.
May just have to bit the bullet for Arcadia.
Really bite the bullet and play the south course, too.
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Tower, any recommendations for courses in Northwest Michigan like Arcadia/Frankfort area.
Gonna be up there in July. As much as I would love to play Arcadia Bluffs, don’t wanna spend $220 a round.
This is a very scenic and challenging set of courses with incredible views of Lake Michigan and Torch Lake and will not cost you an arm and a leg.
https://www.a-ga-ming.com/
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A-Ga-Ming is lovely. I was trying to avoid the 90 minute drive from Frankfort-Empire. If we are going to open it up to 90 minute drives, that brings everything from Traverse City, Gaylord, Cadillac, and Grayling into play.
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Interesting thing I found this off-season. Was testing some new putters out, just for fun I tried out a left handed putter.
Turns out, my control and distance felt so much better putting left handed than right handed, but with a cross handed grip Ended up just buying a cheap left handed putter to test out this season but even just putting around my house, I’ve seen a noticeable improvement with my putting.
Anybody else play right handed and putt lefty? Or is that just me?
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Blaine McAllister, Mac O'Grady, Notah Begay. I think Notah had a bullseye putter and alternated R/L handed, depending on the break of the putt. I have been putting left hand low for 25 years. Being somewhat ambidextrous, it felt natural as soon as I started.
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Eye always putt left handed, hey?
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Reed with another shady move Saturday. Glad to see his round torpedo after that.
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Like a wrestling heel, it won't affect him long. But yes, karma bit him a little.
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Reed with another shady move Saturday. Glad to see his round torpedo after that.
To be fair to Reed, it looks like Rory did the same thing. Granted, Rory’s reputation is really good compared to Reed’s. Both balls bounced, so maybe Reed’s actually was embedded.
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I know that Reed has a clear conscience. The optics look bad because the video showed the ball bounce. He completely believes he handled it correctly.
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NBC analysts unanimously trashed Reed for what he did. Didn't like Reed playing with the lie before the decision. Kind of gave Rory a pass based on reputation.
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NBC CBS analysts unanimously trashed Reed for what he did. Didn't like Reed playing with the lie before the decision. Kind of gave Rory a pass based on reputation.
Fixed it.
Reed sucks as a human. If he wasn't such trash scum he could be the actual peoples champ when just looking at his game. He's poofy short hitter who isn't a stellar irons guy but he a wizard scrambler who is putts lights out. He seemingly plays like the every man but holy hell him and Justine are just hot garbage.
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Golf has their heel. During the Ryder Cup, it is Poulter or Sergio. Week in, week out, it is Patrick Reed.
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Has anyone tried the Costco putter or wedges?
I'm potentially in the market for a new putter. Also, what's the advantage of that huge grip?
I've been using an old ping anser for 20+ years. No reason to need to switch, but if it helps, why not?
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Tower, have you played Spyglass? I'm hoping to get on 1/2 off in a few weeks.
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Muggsy, no.
Jesmu84, huge grip theoretically helps take the wrists out of the stroke. And putting is as much belief as it is equipment.
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Muggsy, no.
Jesmu84, huge grip theoretically helps take the wrists out of the stroke. And putting is as much belief as it is equipment.
That explains why I've always been a good putter. Although I'm not sure you can teach touch Tower? I never had a problem lag putting or with the floater a la Tony Parker. I also have a wicked slice dropshot in tennis. Maybe somebody up there is helping me out and compensating for my diminutive stature.
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If I had Woosy's pop?? Uh-Oh. It would be very similar to Happy G learning how to putt.
:)
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Tower, have you played Spyglass? I'm hoping to get on 1/2 off in a few weeks.
I’ve played Spyglass, Spanish Bay and Pebble. All the same weekend. Stayed at the Inn at Spanish Bay. Golf nirvana.
Spring for the fore caddy.
My favorite of the three was actually Spanish Bay but they are all close to perfection.
Before you check in at the pro shop stop at the financing department and take out a home equity loan. I played a few years back and I can only imagine how costly it is now.
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anyone else in a golf pool where you pick one player to win each week and can't reuse that player again for rest of season? I'm wondering who I should pick at the waste management open.
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anyone else in a golf pool where you pick one player to win each week and can't reuse that player again for rest of season? I'm wondering who I should pick at the waste management open.
That sounds fun.
Too bad Phil isn't playing (last I heard, anyway). He has had success there and you probably wouldn't pick him otherwise.
How 'bout Kuchar or Fowler? Goodness knows neither will be the right choice for any of the majors!
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I’m looking at Will Zalatoris, Max Homa and Russel Henley for longer odds at WMPO.
Hideki always plays well here.
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I looked at all those names and went with Daniel Berger. Currently tied for 11th
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rocket
I am in similar pool. Took Webb Simpson this week.
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anyone else in a golf pool where you pick one player to win each week and can't reuse that player again for rest of season? I'm wondering who I should pick at the waste management open.
Yup. I am in one every year like this.
Goes off money earned with some side pots as well.
Went Rahm right off the bat.
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If I had Woosy's pop?? Uh-Oh. It would be very similar to Happy G learning how to putt.
:)
When I lived in Chicago, we had 3 regulars who went golfing every Friday from mid-April to mid-November. We rotated the fourth. One was a local sportswriter of very small stature who nonetheless could hit the ball a ton because he had perfect mechanics. We called him Woosie. (Or, alternately, The Wee Welshman).
I miss those games. I often was the least proficient golfer in the group and the other guys liked to put together all kinds of crazy betting games. Before we'd start, I'd say: "At the end, just tell me how much I owe everybody."
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It's 2.5 rounds of golf, but....
I really hope this is Spieth getting back to being a top flight golfer.
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It's 2.5 rounds of golf, but....
I really hope this is Spieth getting back to being a top flight golfer.
What a F'ing round
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Should be a fun head to head match up today. Not sure who I am rooting for. Probably won't know until I actually start watching. Maybe Koepka shoots his 61 today and makes it really fun.
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Should be a fun head to head match up today. Not sure who I am rooting for. Probably won't know until I actually start watching. Maybe Koepka shoots his 61 today and makes it really fun.
Koepka!
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Koepka!
Nice call, Tower!
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Looks like the Players Championship will have fans this year. 20 percent of capacity.
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2021/01/25/players-championship-2021-spectators.html
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Looks like the Players Championship will have fans this year. 20 percent of capacity.
https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2021/01/25/players-championship-2021-spectators.html
Any word on the Chainsmokers concert?
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Tied for the lead on 16. 4 putt 7 later. Ouch.
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Dude costs himself mucho dineros, aina?
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Dude costs himself mucho dineros, aina?
Putting a crater into the green might make his bank account a little lighter too.
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Berger with the walk off eagle.
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Tied for the lead on 16. 4 putt 7 later. Ouch.
$500,000 hole. Oy.
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MU golf off to a great start-
http://digital.wsga.org/wisconsin-golfer-february-2021/page/6
just announced senior open championship to be held at sentry world 2023
we golfed there a few years ago and i asked them why there hasn't been any big ones there. he said because they weren't really set up for spectators. i'm assuming covid will be taken care of by then so golf will become a spectator event again along with most other sports
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I enjoy watching the best in the world bet their butts kicked by a 300 yard par 4.
Riviera is playing US Open firm and fast. The very rare wind delay this afternoon.
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Wind delay just putting out how deaf the Tour is.
Riv playing fast and firm, you know the wind is going to blow, water the greens down a couple stimps before the rounds start.
Jordan, DJ, Cantlay, Jaco looking to chase down Sam Burns under really tough conditions. Golf Twitter was buzzing, it was going to be a great Saturday.
Instead, you do nothing. Call a wind delay while showing cuts of people playing volleyball on the beach. Caddies laying on the bags getting some sun rays. Blimps out over LA lazily flying about.
To top it all off, your west coast, golden hour prime time golf broadcast gets shoved over to Golf Channel. Tide went out, wind went down, greens were drenched and the typical Live Under Par Dartboard returned.
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https://twitter.com/oma_golf/status/1363208956970209287
I don't need wind and fast greens to do this.
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They blew the horn about a minute after that.
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What a shot by Homa on the first playoff hole. Shot making is not dead.
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Whata putt on 18, hey?
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Winning a tour event in your hometown has to be a great feeling.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/02/21/max-homa-defeats-tony-finau-playoff-genesis-invitational/
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I've been a fan of Max for a while now. He's just a refreshing personality in the game of golf. His podcast with Shane Bacon (Get A Grip) just provides such a great and HONEST look into the tour. Also the things he's done with the guys at No Laying Up are amazing. Got one of the best tips from watching him play is to always try and leave yourself below the hole on approach / chips vs. trying to be closer to the hole.
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USGA announces it’ll allow amateurs earn off their name, image and likeness.
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Great! Anybody wanting to pay me for my likeness, please let me know.
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Tiger supposedly in a really bad car accident today.
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Tiger supposedly in a really bad car accident today.
Singel car rollover accident, jaws for life required
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Why is he still driving his own car? He looked in rough shape on Sunday in his interview. This seems a lot like when he had his DUI after back surgery.
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Career over. (Though I think it was over after his recent spine surgery)
Trauma surgery for compound leg fracture.
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Played golf with Dwyane Wade and others yesterday. It was a few day thing with Golf Digest. Agent says leg injuries/surgery.
https://twitter.com/GolfChannel/status/1364277773443948554?s=19
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Wow......career likely over.
Was he drunk?
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Wow......career likely over.
Was he drunk?
Cops are saying no alcohol, but wouldn't comment on other substances.
A bit too soon to say his career is over. We don't even know the extent of his injuries.
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Hope he's okay. Not so sure his career is necessarily over. These days he can play with a cart if necessary (though I doubt he would). Ben Hogan came back from a horrific crash 70 years ago to win golf tournaments. We'll see (though Tiger needs to start letting someone else do the driving).
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Why is he still driving his own car? He looked in rough shape on Sunday in his interview. This seems a lot like when he had his DUI after back surgery.
This is so true. Hire a driver. Heck, he could hire three drivers to work around the clock.
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Just saw a picture of the aftermath of the wreck. That is a very difficult extrication. Looking at the car, multiple leg injuries is the minimum.
https://www.golfchannel.com/news/tiger-woods-hospitalized-after-serious-car-accident-near-los-angeles
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Sad news. Hope he recovers to live a normal life. Golf is secondary.
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It sounds pretty brutal but you're right, I shouldn't jump to conclusions.
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He looked awful on Sunday. It’s time for him to be Tiger the dad. Golf isn’t worth it
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Looks like he crossed over the road, over the medium strip, over next road, then into the wooded embankment.
Maybe he passed out due to painkillers for back or past addiction. Maybe he swerved to miss a deer. Toxicology will decide that. Hope it was the deer/animal thing, but not betting on it. He did not look very good on CBS interview Sunday, looked beat up and tired.
Didn't medivac him, so that's a good sign, unless hospital was close.
Probably over on PGA Tour, but who knows. Watch, he will have two broken legs, sit out a year, then win at Augusta. Ben Hogan story as mentioned.
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Prayers out to Tiger and his family. As much I have loved following his career, I hope he recovers and enjoys his family. Time to recover and focus on his kids.
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Prayers out to Tiger and his family. As much I have loved following his career, I hope he recovers and enjoys his family. Time to recover and focus on his kids.
You said it the best.
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Can anyone tell what kind of SUV that is?
(https://static.independent.co.uk/2021/02/23/20/PRI183992117.jpg?width=982&height=726&auto=webp&quality=75)
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Yes. He has climbed every mountain. Get well, enjoy your kids, become a philanthropist and personality.
How about Tiger and Phil together in an announcing booth?
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Can anyone tell what kind of SUV that is?
(https://static.independent.co.uk/2021/02/23/20/PRI183992117.jpg?width=982&height=726&auto=webp&quality=75)
Badge looks like a Genesis...Hyundai's recent luxury spin-off
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Can anyone tell what kind of SUV that is?
(https://static.independent.co.uk/2021/02/23/20/PRI183992117.jpg?width=982&height=726&auto=webp&quality=75)
It has the Genesis logo on the door.
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Badge looks like a Genesis...Hyundai's recent luxury spin-off
It was a Genesis. They sponsored the tournament this weekend and he’s the host
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Yes. He has climbed every mountain. Get well, enjoy your kids, become a philanthropist and personality.
How about Tiger and Phil together in an announcing booth?
Love, Tiger but he’s personality zero. Hate, Phil and think he’d be terrific in the booth
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Love, Tiger but he’s personality zero. Hate, Phil and think he’d be terrific in the booth
Phil would be fantastic agreed. Tiger just isn’t nearly gregarious and charismatic enough. Phil and Tiger both have legendary stories from all their years on tour, celebrity intereactions, games, etc... I can’t think of multiple times I’ve heard Phil in podcasts or interviews or responses where he relayed stuff like that amazingly. Cant think of the same for Tiger. I feel like the “must watch” Tiger on camera stuff is Tiger fans who would get excited about him reading a phone book or just more him sharing something for once than it actually being communicated well.
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Probably right. Or, knowing he is done competing, he could pull a Faldo and become outgoing.
Or, he can relax, enjoy his family, and count his money.
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Thx. Makes sense. GV80. Only make one model SUV. Not a bad looking SUV but too much grill for my taste.
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Reports now suggest jaws of life were not needed. He's incredibly lucky to be alive.
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Yes. He has climbed every mountain. Get well, enjoy your kids, become a philanthropist and personality.
How about Tiger and Phil together in an announcing booth?
He's not wired that way. Literally, his entire life has been about golf and being the best. If he stepped away he'd always look to come back.
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He's not wired that way. Literally, his entire life has been about golf and being the best. If he stepped away he'd always look to come back.
Yup, Tiger has a ridiculous competitive edge but his pops is also to blame for his entire life revolving around golf.
I gotta imagine this is it. Really, really strange seeing the two most dominant athletes I grew up watching (Tiger and Serena) going out at the same time. Getting older is weird.
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His career was over when he had the most recent back surgery. Almost for sure now though
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He's not wired that way. Literally, his entire life has been about golf and being the best. If he stepped away he'd always look to come back.
If he really had a compound femur fracture, on top of his other injuries, on top of his recent back surgery, two years minimum. And if he did more damage to his back, forget about it.
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If he really had a compound femur fracture, on top of his other injuries, on top of his recent back surgery, two years minimum. And if he did more damage to his back, forget about it.
Yup, the mind may be willing but that body has been through hell and back
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Yup, the mind may be willing but that body has been through hell and back
Many used to say that JoPa kept coaching because if he wasn't he die without it, and that's what happened. Tiger won't die but does he even know what to do with himself without golf?
It's hard to feel sorry for anyone who has made a billion dollars but watching the HBO documentary I did feel bad for what his dad put him through as a child. Seeing those videos of him with his HS GF was the most surprising thing in there as outside of that, he was a robot doing what his dad told him to do. Even the break up letter to the girl was obviously dictated by Earl.
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Phil would be fantastic agreed. Tiger just isn’t nearly gregarious and charismatic enough. Phil and Tiger both have legendary stories from all their years on tour, celebrity intereactions, games, etc... I can’t think of multiple times I’ve heard Phil in podcasts or interviews or responses where he relayed stuff like that amazingly. Cant think of the same for Tiger. I feel like the “must watch” Tiger on camera stuff is Tiger fans who would get excited about him reading a phone book or just more him sharing something for once than it actually being communicated well.
Tiger is a killer. Phil’s a dog.
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It was unlikely Tiger ever came back to form with all of his pervasive back issues. Maybe a couple of moments of yesteryear. But today sealed it. A complex human figure to be sure, but some of my favorite moments in all of sports belong to him
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Just as Jordan found avenues for his uber-competitiveness outside of basketball, Tiger can and will find avenues for his outside of golf. He could be a course designer (already has done some), a top Tour official (next commissioner?), owner of a sports franchise (like Jordan), CEO of a company, a competitive poker player, whatever.
His career was going to end, and I'm pretty sure he knew it. He had to have already been thinking about this some.
First and foremost, I hope he emerges from this physically, mentally and emotionally OK -- just as I would wish that for anybody in a horrific accident. The rest will take care of itself. Unlike others who might have been in a crash like that, Tiger has the kind of financial means just about nobody else does, as well as (hopefully) loving family support. He is a lucky man.
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If he really had a compound femur fracture, on top of his other injuries, on top of his recent back surgery, two years minimum. And if he did more damage to his back, forget about it.
In the statement I saw (https://twitter.com/TigerWoods/status/1364447580520738820?s=20), it does not mention a femur fracture. It does sound like he busted up his lower right leg really bad, however. Nasty stuff...but better than a femur. Wishing him well and a speedy recovery.
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In the statement I saw (https://twitter.com/TigerWoods/status/1364447580520738820?s=20), it does not mention a femur fracture. It does sound like he busted up his lower right leg really bad, however. Nasty stuff...but better than a femur. Wishing him well and a speedy recovery.
Tibia, fibula, ankle, foot. Plus compartment syndrome.
Dude is done
Hope he can walk normally again
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In the statement I saw (https://twitter.com/TigerWoods/status/1364447580520738820?s=20), it does not mention a femur fracture. It does sound like he busted up his lower right leg really bad, however. Nasty stuff...but better than a femur. Wishing him well and a speedy recovery.
Yes. I referenced an early report that turned out to be inaccurate. Compound tibia/fibula. Pins, latest, screws. Still brutal. Slightly less brutal than the femur.
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Yes. I referenced an early report that turned out to be inaccurate. Compound tibia/fibula. Pins, latest, screws. Still brutal. Slightly less brutal than the femur.
Yea. Between some NBA guys and Alex Smith, it seems like it could be done to come back. However, Tiger’s body has gone through a lot. I think it was his left knee that had all the issues.
Is this the extent of his surgeries? A doctor friend said anytime the bone is showing, it’s an emergency surgery. But will he need others that aren’t emergency?
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Yea. Between some NBA guys and Alex Smith, it seems like it could be done to come back. However, Tiger’s body has gone through a lot. I think it was his left knee that had all the issues.
Is this the extent of his surgeries? A doctor friend said anytime the bone is showing, it’s an emergency surgery. But will he need others that aren’t emergency?
compound fx breaks thru skin shows bone-typically
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My friend is Ortho surgeon. Said injuries are severe, but the leg should be fine. He has done many of the same break procedures. It’s the ankle and where he smashed it up as a problem. How many bones had to be repaired and where. Were the bones smashed to point that plates had to replace bones. The higher up the worse due to probable future motion issues and nerve damage.
Said the next two weeks are critical due to infections. That is what happened to Alex Smith. Tiger probably getting pumped with IV antibiotics to the strongest degree.
He finally stated that Tiger has had five back surgeries, the last being 45 days ago and considering the velocity of the vehicle rolling, etc., he would not be surprised if his back was re-damaged in some manner.
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Interesting info, thanks nyg.
As been mentioned before, his career is over, especially if that back was tweaked at all. Hopefully he can walk and play normally so he can enjoy golfing with his son.
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I think that the tib/fib comminuted fractures into the ankle joint are worse than any femoral fracture. And it sounds like he also had a fasciotomy to release pressure from soft tissue swelling. It will take a year or so for full healing, but with his resources I wouldn't rule out a return to golf just because of the leg injuries. The status of his pre-accident back surgery recovery, and whether it was re-injured (the back) might be the answer regarding a return to competitive golf. In an odd way, the additional time away from golf and getting rehab for the leg might be beneficial to his recovery from the last back surgery.
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Apparently Tiger didn't remember driving?? Huh? Explanation?
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I am not sure what you are referring to. It is fairly common that people don't remember bad traffic accidents or the events immediately preceding or following them.
I've never been a Tiger fan, but this seems normal and almost to be expected, considering the nature and severity of the accident.
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Just gotta figure ders moore two dis story, hey?
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I am not sure what you are referring to. It is fairly common that people don't remember bad traffic accidents or the events immediately preceding or following them.
I've never been a Tiger fan, but this seems normal and almost to be expected, considering the nature and severity of the accident.
I think given Tiger’s history, his high profile, and a variety of other things, it’s just worthy of a slight eye brow raise, along with no alcohol or drug testing being done, when normally it would be
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Bryson just hit a 350 yard CARRY to clear the water on the Par 5 6th at Bay Hill. 70 yards to the green. Unreal stones and unreal shot
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Bryson just hit a 350 yard CARRY to clear the water on the Par 5 6th at Bay Hill. 70 yards to the green. Unreal stones and unreal shot
And likely unreal levels of Winstrol.
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Two aces at Bay Hill today.
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And likely unreal levels of Winstrol.
Tiger was juicing for years and never did it. Don’t be a hater of fun
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Tiger was juicing for years and never did it. Don’t be a hater of fun
So by your logic Sosa and McGuire’s juicing should be ignored because it made the game fun?
And you have to concede that Tiger (who I actively rooted against during his domination) is paying the long-term price for all the HGH and juicing he did. He’s got the spine of an 80 year old guy.
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So by your logic Sosa and McGuire’s juicing should be ignored because it made the game fun?
And you have to concede that Tiger (who I actively rooted against during his domination) is paying the long-term price for all the HGH and juicing he did. He’s got the spine of an 80 year old guy.
Steroids turned Sosa white
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Do they have steroid testing on the pga tour? Excuse my ignorance.
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Do they have steroid testing on the pga tour? Excuse my ignorance.
I don’t believe so
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So by your logic Sosa and McGuire’s juicing should be ignored because it made the game fun?
And you have to concede that Tiger (who I actively rooted against during his domination) is paying the long-term price for all the HGH and juicing he did. He’s got the spine of an 80 year old guy.
If you actively rooted against Tiger, fair play and that’s more justifiable. I just see plenty of people hating on Bryson and his distance or making steroid cracks, but they are giddy Tiger fanboys who were delighted to rave marvel at “Tiger-proofing” and gleefully at how powerful his swing was. And those people are obnoxious hypocrites
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If you actively rooted against Tiger, fair play and that’s more justifiable. I just see plenty of people hating on Bryson and his distance or making steroid cracks, but they are giddy Tiger fanboys who were delighted to rave marvel at “Tiger-proofing” and gleefully at how powerful his swing was. And those people are obnoxious hypocrites
To be completely honest, my dislike of Tiger had little to do with his game. I actually loved to root for him when he broke into the professional game.
But then he became a robot. Canned responses. Trying to control who could and couldn’t interview him.
I get that the guy was living under a microscope and was under tremendous pressure. But almost all of the other guys on tour were living event or event and trying to keep their card every year. At least pretend like you appreciate all of the adulation you get. Mickelson at least acted like he was having fun. He at least acknowledged the crowd.
That’s why I actually started to take interest in Tiger’s second act. He actually seemed like he was getting some pleasure out of competing again.
And for the record, I have an acquaintance who plays on the PGA Tour who said that Tiger is actually a decent guy and that Mickelson (with the exception of Patrick Reed) is the biggest jackass on tour and almost universally disliked by other players.
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Do they have steroid testing on the pga tour? Excuse my ignorance.
No, they don’t even test drivers like they’re supposed to.
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To be completely honest, my dislike of Tiger had little to do with his game. I actually loved to root for him when he broke into the professional game.
But then he became a robot. Canned responses. Trying to control who could and couldn’t interview him.
I get that the guy was living under a microscope and was under tremendous pressure. But almost all of the other guys on tour were living event or event and trying to keep their card every year. At least pretend like you appreciate all of the adulation you get. Mickelson at least acted like he was having fun. He at least acknowledged the crowd.
That’s why I actually started to take interest in Tiger’s second act. He actually seemed like he was getting some pleasure out of competing again.
And for the record, I have an acquaintance who plays on the PGA Tour who said that Tiger is actually a decent guy and that Mickelson (with the exception of Patrick Reed) is the biggest jackass on tour and almost universally disliked by other players.
I completely agree with you actually. Had Tiger gear and loved watching him all through the late 90s and early 2000s. Soured on him for the same reasons. And also then the fan effect where people were freaking out over ANYTHING he did while he walked around like an anti-social robot. I get that he brought in tons of casual fans and people outside of normal golf fans, and that was amazing for the sport, but as an avid young golfer and fan in HS and college, it was beyond obnoxious to have people around you either lose interest immediately if Tiger wasn't leading, or worse yet get pissed about it and talk about how boring golf was if he wasn't winning. All the while he had the on course personality of a ball retriever outside of the occasional fist pump and was the worst interview in sports. Not to mention myriad people like our resident Tiger stan who can twist everything into why Tiger is going to win an event and how quaking in their boots every tour player is at facing him on a leaderboard.
I wasn't delirious over his Master's win for the reasons I listed above, but he's seemed refreshingly human the last 18 months or so. From on camera stuff, to his interactions and chats with some of the younger blogs and media outlets to the father son event. Its a nice change and has brought me back a bit.
As for Mickelson, its varied. Ive heard similar. My sister's BF who's mentor as a teaching pro is a legend in the industry explained it pretty well. Phil, since he was 18-19 was THE MAN. He was an absolute force of nature in college, just nearly unheard of production, and until Tiger, other than Jack, nobody was winning a bunch of tournaments before 25 like Phil did. He got a huge ego and was cocky. And wasn't a traditional quiet golf guy, hence FIGJAM (F** Im Good, Just Ask Me). Among players who are also very good but not quite as good, its beyond annoying.
But, he also added that Phil was great to fans, staff generally enjoyed him, and as someone who loved to gamble, Phil was always good for it, unlike some.
Funny enough, as mentioned before, Bryson is similar. His approach and antics annoy a lot of pros, but he's a really good guy, generally always has time for media and fans. Ive mentioned before here, when he was the star at SMU, the golf coach booked time with my sister's BF, who at the time had gained a name as teaching pro at one of Dallas' better clubs, and they worked together for awhile. Well the coach stiffed him, was generally unavailable, and ghosted further conversations. BF was soured on SMU and while it wasn't directly Bryson's (still a college kid) doing, didn't view him super fondly. Fast forward to a few years ago, Bryson had toured pro, ran into the BF at DFW. Excitedly came up to him, called him "Mr. BF" which is funny considering they are only 6-7 years apart in age, and wanted to catch up. BF made reference to the situation kind of jokingly, Bryson was mortified, said he'd pay everything plus interest (and had a check sent a few days later) and told him he would gladly do recos or any marketing speak for a new golf venture BF was launching, free of charge. Changed his perspective on him totally. Was golfing with him and my sister in the fall during the US Open and he was pumped for him following along, which is not something Ive seen him do much with golfers at all.
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Generally - yes it's a generalization, and there are exceptions - most top pros like Tiger and tolerate/dislike Phil.
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I got my first two rounds of the year in. British Open weather on a flat, open course. Inventing shots and ball flights.
Sergio with 65 for the first round of the Players. Impressive.
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When do we think tiger actually began juicing?
Also, at this point I'm a convert to the school of thinking that PGA needs to play a distance-limited ball.
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I see courses like Sawgrass and I disagree. Pete Dye was an evil genius.
As to Tiger, look at pictures over the years.
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I see courses like Sawgrass and I disagree. Pete Dye was an evil genius.
As to Tiger, look at pictures over the years.
So we agree Tiger was dominant early in his career and likely wasn't using anything?
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In the early aughts, he decided he wanted a beach body. And started doing army ranger drills. He got big and buff.
He changed his swing. Ostensibly to protect his knee, which had already been operated on a couple of times.
It worked for a while. Then his body and personal life went pfft. I don't know if he juiced. I know he trained harder than anybody and his body broke down.
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So we agree Tiger was dominant early in his career and likely wasn't using anything?
I think he was saying courses like Sawgrass make him think a distance limiting ball isn’t a good idea.
As for Tiger juicing, I’m not sure exactly when, but the way his body comp exploded and the way he broke down points to it. A number of smart people experienced with it have written about it, especially with the breaking down of his back and joints.
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Yes, courses like TPC Sawgrass generally neutralize distance.
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To be completely honest, my dislike of Tiger had little to do with his game. I actually loved to root for him when he broke into the professional game.
But then he became a robot. Canned responses. Trying to control who could and couldn’t interview him.
I get that the guy was living under a microscope and was under tremendous pressure. But almost all of the other guys on tour were living event or event and trying to keep their card every year. At least pretend like you appreciate all of the adulation you get. Mickelson at least acted like he was having fun. He at least acknowledged the crowd.
That’s why I actually started to take interest in Tiger’s second act. He actually seemed like he was getting some pleasure out of competing again.
And for the record, I have an acquaintance who plays on the PGA Tour who said that Tiger is actually a decent guy and that Mickelson (with the exception of Patrick Reed) is the biggest jackass on tour and almost universally disliked by other players.
I completely agree with you actually. Had Tiger gear and loved watching him all through the late 90s and early 2000s. Soured on him for the same reasons. And also then the fan effect where people were freaking out over ANYTHING he did while he walked around like an anti-social robot. I get that he brought in tons of casual fans and people outside of normal golf fans, and that was amazing for the sport, but as an avid young golfer and fan in HS and college, it was beyond obnoxious to have people around you either lose interest immediately if Tiger wasn't leading, or worse yet get pissed about it and talk about how boring golf was if he wasn't winning. All the while he had the on course personality of a ball retriever outside of the occasional fist pump and was the worst interview in sports. Not to mention myriad people like our resident Tiger stan who can twist everything into why Tiger is going to win an event and how quaking in their boots every tour player is at facing him on a leaderboard.
I wasn't delirious over his Master's win for the reasons I listed above, but he's seemed refreshingly human the last 18 months or so. From on camera stuff, to his interactions and chats with some of the younger blogs and media outlets to the father son event. Its a nice change and has brought me back a bit.
As for Mickelson, its varied. Ive heard similar. My sister's BF who's mentor as a teaching pro is a legend in the industry explained it pretty well. Phil, since he was 18-19 was THE MAN. He was an absolute force of nature in college, just nearly unheard of production, and until Tiger, other than Jack, nobody was winning a bunch of tournaments before 25 like Phil did. He got a huge ego and was cocky. And wasn't a traditional quiet golf guy, hence FIGJAM (F** Im Good, Just Ask Me). Among players who are also very good but not quite as good, its beyond annoying.
But, he also added that Phil was great to fans, staff generally enjoyed him, and as someone who loved to gamble, Phil was always good for it, unlike some.
Funny enough, as mentioned before, Bryson is similar. His approach and antics annoy a lot of pros, but he's a really good guy, generally always has time for media and fans. Ive mentioned before here, when he was the star at SMU, the golf coach booked time with my sister's BF, who at the time had gained a name as teaching pro at one of Dallas' better clubs, and they worked together for awhile. Well the coach stiffed him, was generally unavailable, and ghosted further conversations. BF was soured on SMU and while it wasn't directly Bryson's (still a college kid) doing, didn't view him super fondly. Fast forward to a few years ago, Bryson had toured pro, ran into the BF at DFW. Excitedly came up to him, called him "Mr. BF" which is funny considering they are only 6-7 years apart in age, and wanted to catch up. BF made reference to the situation kind of jokingly, Bryson was mortified, said he'd pay everything plus interest (and had a check sent a few days later) and told him he would gladly do recos or any marketing speak for a new golf venture BF was launching, free of charge. Changed his perspective on him totally. Was golfing with him and my sister in the fall during the US Open and he was pumped for him following along, which is not something Ive seen him do much with golfers at all.
Generally - yes it's a generalization, and there are exceptions - most top pros like Tiger and tolerate/dislike Phil.
Just to add my perspective and amplify on Phil to those above. We had a non golf related business relationship with Phil for many years that was profitable. However, I would agree with these posts above. Phil not the easiest guy to be around. However, he was generous with stuff like letting us hang around and take pics with the Claret Jug that he won etc.
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I think he was saying courses like Sawgrass make him think a distance limiting ball isn’t a good idea.
As for Tiger juicing, I’m not sure exactly when, but the way his body comp exploded and the way he broke down points to it. A number of smart people experienced with it have written about it, especially with the breaking down of his back and joints.
I understood the Sawgrass stuff.
I also understand tiger's body morph.
I was simply saying that Tiger was dominant early with a "normal" body.
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Sawgrass mitigates distance because the driver goes too far on many holes. Pete Dye didn’t have that in mind when he built the course.
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I understood the Sawgrass stuff.
I also understand tiger's body morph.
I was simply saying that Tiger was dominant early with a "normal" body.
I never implied that steroids were the reason he dominated. It arguably hurt him more in the long run than it helped him
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I never implied that steroids were the reason he dominated. It arguably hurt him more in the long run than it helped him
We're on the same page.
All good, fam.
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In the early aughts, he decided he wanted a beach body. And started doing army ranger drills. He got big and buff.
He changed his swing. Ostensibly to protect his knee, which had already been operated on a couple of times.
It worked for a while. Then his body and personal life went pfft. I don't know if he juiced. I know he trained harder than anybody and his body broke down.
After the Tiger Slam, Tiger wanted to be seen by the public as an athlete, not a golfer. But, he didn't have the look. So began his workout regime. And, it worked. Unfortunately, it also killed his body and shorten the prime of his career.
Rory has done the same thing. Luckily so far, his body has held up. But, his game isn't better.
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It will be interesting to see if Bryson's back and body are able to stand up to the changes he has made and how hard he swings.
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It will be interesting to see if Bryson's back and body are able to stand up to the changes he has made and how hard he swings.
I doubt it.
That said, the game is changing. Both Rory and Jason Day have talked about how younger guys will likely have shorter careers. Guys will go harder and faster in their primes and accept the trade-off. With the cash available, there's no reason for the top guys to have to grind it out year after year on the Tour.
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The Tour absolutely should be using a ball that spins more.
There’s no argument against it that is valid.
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After the Tiger Slam, Tiger wanted to be seen by the public as an athlete, not a golfer. But, he didn't have the look. So began his workout regime. And, it worked. Unfortunately, it also killed his body and shorten the prime of his career.
Rory has done the same thing. Luckily so far, his body has held up. But, his game isn't better.
Rory admitted he played terrible last week - still finished T10. He & DJ essentially just make the game to damn easy.
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I doubt it.
That said, the game is changing. Both Rory and Jason Day have talked about how younger guys will likely have shorter careers. Guys will go harder and faster in their primes and accept the trade-off. With the cash available, there's no reason for the top guys to have to grind it out year after year on the Tour.
It's not only that but the speed game that coaches like GG preach puts a lot more force on the wrist and back. It's going to shorten a lot of careers.
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The Tour absolutely should be using a ball that spins more.
There’s no argument against it that is valid.
Bifurcation is the answer but the big manufactures don't want that obviously.
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I doubt it.
That said, the game is changing. Both Rory and Jason Day have talked about how younger guys will likely have shorter careers. Guys will go harder and faster in their primes and accept the trade-off. With the cash available, there's no reason for the top guys to have to grind it out year after year on the Tour.
Just keep your card year after year. That’s what it’s about.
Charles Howell has been on tour 20 years. Has won only three times and has earned over 40 million dollars. That does not include his endorsement money over the years.
Howell has played in 50 majors and has one top ten finish. One. No top fives.
Was never a member of a Ryder Cup or President Cup team. But 40 million in bank, a consistent player and one of the best liked guys on tour.
Others are Stewart Cink and the next to be is Tony Finau. Finau has one win, in a lower field, since the win was same week as WGC event. May win once every 6 years, but making cuts and keeping card will make you millions.
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Just keep your card year after year. That’s what it’s about.
Charles Howell has been on tour 20 years. Has won only three times and has earned over 40 million dollars. That does not include his endorsement money over the years.
Howell has played in 50 majors and has one top ten finish. One. No top fives.
Was never a member of a Ryder Cup or President Cup team. But 40 million in bank, a consistent player and one of the best liked guys on tour.
Others are Stewart Cink and the next to be is Tony Finau. Finau has one win, in a lower field, since the win was same week as WGC event. May win once every 6 years, but making cuts and keeping card will make you millions.
Probably 10–15 years ago Golf Digest had a great article where they figured out how much money a tour pro would make if he shot even par for every round.
I was amazed at how much it was. But this was back when even par or maybe +1 or +2 could earn a Top 5 at Augusta or one of the other majors.
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Rory admitted he played terrible last week - still finished T10. He & DJ essentially just make the game to damn easy.
I think Rory has one the best golf swings ever. He's a generational talent.
But, like Tiger, after some success, he wanted to be seen as an athlete, not just a golfer. But, he didn't have the body for that image. So, he hit the gym hard. However, I don't think that has made him a better golfer. I wouldn't say worse, but certainly not better.
Rory frustrates me as a golf fan. It is hard to believe we have gone six full seasons since his last major championship. He just can't tighten up his short iron/full wedge shots and putter enough.
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Just keep your card year after year. That’s what it’s about.
Charles Howell has been on tour 20 years. Has won only three times and has earned over 40 million dollars. That does not include his endorsement money over the years.
Howell has played in 50 majors and has one top ten finish. One. No top fives.
Was never a member of a Ryder Cup or President Cup team. But 40 million in bank, a consistent player and one of the best liked guys on tour.
Others are Stewart Cink and the next to be is Tony Finau. Finau has one win, in a lower field, since the win was same week as WGC event. May win once every 6 years, but making cuts and keeping card will make you millions.
No question guys like CHIII, Kevin Kisner, even a Matt Kuchar have made a ton of cash just playing good golf and making cuts week after week. The Tour is always going to have guys like this.
However, I was talking about the guys, especially the young guys, that are striving to be the best in the world. To achieve that, players are going to pushing their bodies much harder than the generation prior. And, with that, a far greater chance of injuries and shorter careers.
Jason Day is the perfect example of this. Day is 33 and has a horrible back from his restrict the hips golf swing. I don't see Day on the Tour in his 40s. For years, people have been saying Day's swing was going to cause him major back issues. Sure enough, it happened. But, he never changed his swing. He made that sacrifice to win a major and became a world #1. It was the kind of trade-off I think we will see more and more of.
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It will be interesting to see if Bryson's back and body are able to stand up to the changes he has made and how hard he swings.
Not a chance
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Great video of the "fun" at No. 17 yesterday ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFAJL5BS36k
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There was carnage. They had better water that green today.
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Just keep your card year after year. That’s what it’s about.
Charles Howell has been on tour 20 years. Has won only three times and has earned over 40 million dollars. That does not include his endorsement money over the years.
Howell has played in 50 majors and has one top ten finish. One. No top fives.
Was never a member of a Ryder Cup or President Cup team. But 40 million in bank, a consistent player and one of the best liked guys on tour.
Others are Stewart Cink and the next to be is Tony Finau. Finau has one win, in a lower field, since the win was same week as WGC event. May win once every 6 years, but making cuts and keeping card will make you millions.
I know it's fun to poke at Finau being the living embodiment of the Puerto Rico Open Curse but in his last 11 starts he has 6 top 10s (2, T2, 4, T5, T8, T8) with his worst finish being a T38.
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Yeah, Finau has one problem. Being average on Sunday when he needs to finish. Give me the 'disappointing' golf he has been playing lately any time.
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I think Rory has one the best golf swings ever. He's a generational talent.
But, like Tiger, after some success, he wanted to be seen as an athlete, not just a golfer. But, he didn't have the body for that image. So, he hit the gym hard. However, I don't think that has made him a better golfer. I wouldn't say worse, but certainly not better.
Rory frustrates me as a golf fan. It is hard to believe we have gone six full seasons since his last major championship. He just can't tighten up his short iron/full wedge shots and putter enough.
Totally agree with the McRib frustrating everyone. I heard this I think on Shotgun Start but that Rory is probably the player most hurt by the all the equipment advances. If the tour does the rollbacks I think he would rise up. He's one of the few players who doesn't have a real weakness.
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Yeah, Finau has one problem. Being average on Sunday when he needs to finish. Give me the 'disappointing' golf he has been playing lately any time.
His 64 in LA showed he can do it which shows a sign of something new. Though I am glad Max got the win.
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His 64 in LA showed he can do it which shows a sign of something new. Though I am glad Max got the win.
I was rooting for Finau in LA. Homa should have won in regulation. If Homa had made that 3 foot putt, no one piles on Finau. Go to extra holes, hit a bad shot on the second, and the 'choke' narrative gets reinforced. Ah, well.
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When do we think tiger actually began juicing?
Also, at this point I'm a convert to the school of thinking that PGA needs to play a distance-limited ball.
A few years before he started losing his hair. BTW, It was widely suspected that Annika Juiced too, hey?
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Totally agree with the McRib frustrating everyone. I heard this I think on Shotgun Start but that Rory is probably the player most hurt by the all the equipment advances. If the tour does the rollbacks I think he would rise up. He's one of the few players who doesn't have a real weakness.
Rory’s wedge game is awful. I also have a theory on golf greatness that very few can maintain the desire, talent and work ethic to accomplish true greatness. That means money and family can be part of your life but golf is still all consuming. The money is so great today, that a few good years basically can set you up for life and I can imagine grinding at the range and gym can seem silly at a certain point. I don’t think Rory shirks on working hard but I also believe Rory doesn’t concern himself with how the golf world will remember him. Rory is very much about being the best Rory the person versus Rory the golfer.
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He's one of the few players who doesn't have a real weakness.
Putts between 8' and 4' are Rory's weakness.
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what has happened to rickie fowler??
it does seem since he got married, chit went down hill from there...and i've been married for 36 years...what the...now i know why my game sucks so bad :D
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I know it's fun to poke at Finau being the living embodiment of the Puerto Rico Open Curse but in his last 11 starts he has 6 top 10s (2, T2, 4, T5, T8, T8) with his worst finish being a T38.
Not poking fun, just stating facts. Finau cannot close the deal. He is a great ball striker, but has some putting woes and when close to the lead on day 4, he falters. Putter, nerves, who knows, but once a guy wins a close one on day 4 after all the runner-ups, usually goes on a good streak. I like Finau, good family man, etc. and would love to see him win. Looks like a lock for Ryder Cup and hope he does well representing.
Point is if he keeps up this pace he may win 100 million in earnings by the time his career ends, wins or no wins.
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I played 9 Tuesday and had my typical dopey round -- a few great drives, a few horrible ones, some nice irons, some fat and thin irons, and lots of terrible chips.
But I still had my best "round" (if 9 can be called a round) in at least 6 months because I had my best putting round in years.
I've been an OK-to-good putter but this was beyond that. 5 one-putts, including drainos from 50, 25 and three 8-12. And three of the ones I missed either hit the flag or burned the edge. I only had two bad putts the entire round, and one was a downhill 5-footer.
I can think of two reasons for the dramatic improvement:
1. It was the first round I played with the new prescription Oakley sunglasses I just got. I usually don't like to wear shades because I can see out the sides and bottoms of the frames and it's distracting, but these are wraps. Because the glasses both corrected my vision and blocked the glare, I really read the greens well all day. Several of the putts had pretty big breaks, and I read them nicely.
2. It was my second round with my re-gripped putter. I finally got one of those oversized grips, this one from Odyssey, and it really helped keep everything smooth. I felt in control on every putt, no wrist hitch. After I did well on my first couple of putts, my confidence in the putter was high.
I'm playing 18 next week, so we'll see if I'm really onto something or if it was a total fluke - which is very possible!
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what has happened to rickie fowler??
it does seem since he got married, chit went down hill from there...and i've been married for 36 years...what the...now i know why my game sucks so bad :D
Too many commercials and endorsement appearances. Butch Harmon asked him if he wants to be a Khardasian or a pro golfer.
But real issue is the old “swing change” and he left Harmon and got a new coach.
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Too many commercials and endorsement appearances. Butch Harmon asked him if he wants to be a Khardasian or a pro golfer.
But real issue is the old “swing change” and he left Harmon and got a new coach.
He’s also a head case. A bit different than Finau, but at least 1, sometimes 2 majors a year, feature Fowler playing well on Thursday and usually Friday. Then he implodes into Saturday, falls out of contention, then has a strong final round on Sunday when he’s out of it.
Plenty of great golfers didn’t win their first major until their 30s, and I bet he still gets one if not more, but he’s been rough to follow in majors
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He’s also a head case. A bit different than Finau, but at least 1, sometimes 2 majors a year, feature Fowler playing well on Thursday and usually Friday. Then he implodes into Saturday, falls out of contention, then has a strong final round on Sunday when he’s out of it.
Plenty of great golfers didn’t win their first major until their 30s, and I bet he still gets one if not more, but he’s been rough to follow in majors
He’s always had a problem with big numbers during tournaments. When he’s playing well, he avoids those . I think you’re right that he can win a major in his late 30’s, ala Sergio.
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Mea culpa
ESPN: Rory McIlroy says swing has come up short while chasing Bryson DeChambeau's length.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/31053732/rory-mcilroy-says-swing-come-short-chasing-bryson-dechambeau-length
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Mea culpa
ESPN: Rory McIlroy says swing has come up short while chasing Bryson DeChambeau's length.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/31053732/rory-mcilroy-says-swing-come-short-chasing-bryson-dechambeau-length
not to mention bryson's drives, eyn'a?
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Sergio Garcia turned in a 72 today after yesterdays 65. Had 6 close putts that he missed including a 23 inch putter. The ball striking as always with Sergio is spot on. Had an eagle when he hit a 222 yard second shot to 4 inches.
Interesting to see 3 Euros among the leaders Westwood, Sergio and Mathew Fitzpatrick. I think the Europeans tend to learn how to play in the wind and shape shots. This course is a shot making course that requires precise placement.
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Sergio Garcia turned in a 72 today after yesterdays 65. Had 6 close putts that he missed including a 23 inch putter. The ball striking as always with Sergio is spot on. Had an eagle when he hit a 222 yard second shot to 4 inches.
Interesting to see 3 Euros among the leaders Westwood, Sergio and Mathew Fitzpatrick. I think the Europeans tend to learn how to play in the wind and shape shots. This course is a shot making course that requires precise placement.
Tell Sergio to call me about his putting problems.
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Nah. Let Sergio suffer.
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Nah. Let Sergio suffer.
Sergio Garcia is trash
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Life on Westy Island is great right now. I hope he runs away with it tomorrow.
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Life on Westy Island is great right now. I hope he runs away with it tomorrow.
Sicko 😉
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Life on Westy Island is great right now. I hope he runs away with it tomorrow.
The coffee is great.
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The coffee is great.
I was just looking at it. I am large batch cold brew maker at home and was wondering what the grind is from Bixby. I think it will be my next purchase. Good to hear it's actually good.
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What in the name of all that is holy is going on with the final group? Holy hackers.
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What in the name of all that is holy is going on with the final group? Holy hackers.
That was wild
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What in the name of all that is holy is going on with the final group? Holy hackers.
Nothing I have witnessed up close.
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DeChambeau’s drive on No. 4 is one of the worst tee shots I’ve ever seen a PGA Tour pro hit.
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Erik Compton Monday qualified for the Honda. If ever there was a long shot to root for.
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some are calling for the masters to be moved out of georgia...they are putting people in very untenable situations and should just fight for their cause on it's own merits
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It will never happen. And how many are 'some'? Augusta will cancel the tournament before the Masters is played somewhere else.
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some are calling for the masters to be moved out of georgia...they are putting people in very untenable situations and should just fight for their cause on it's own merits
Source?
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Source?
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.o45hduMOR44VISTdnehN0wHaEw&pid=Api&P=0&w=300&h=300)
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A google search turns it up. Also want the all star game moved out of Atlanta. Augusta won't be swayed. They will shut it down first. See: Martha Burk
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A google search turns it up. Also want the all star game moved out of Atlanta. Augusta won't be swayed. They will shut it down first. See: Martha Burk
i was trying to avoid turning this into a "you know what" thing, so i was hoping jesu among others would be able to find it themselves. i hope you are right. the masters cannot be held anywhere else. seemingly, golf has monitored itself quite well without too much outside influence.
i could care less what mlb, nba, nfl, or ncaa do. those have become secondary and tertiary hobbies to follow after i've done the dishes, scrubbed the floors and cleaned the toilets
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I tracked it down. It's a non-story (IMO) in that no group or individual of any influence is making this demand. Moving on.
I guess seeing a post start with the unspecified "some" brought back memories of a recent individual of questionable credibility who utilized the same form of issue introduction. My bad.
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i was trying to avoid turning this into a "you know what" thing, so i was hoping jesu among others would be able to find it themselves. i hope you are right. the masters cannot be held anywhere else. seemingly, golf has monitored itself quite well without too much outside influence.
i could care less what mlb, nba, nfl, or ncaa do. those have become secondary and tertiary hobbies to follow after i've done the dishes, scrubbed the floors and cleaned the toilets
And yet you post on a message board for a team in the NCAA.
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It will never happen. And how many are 'some'? Augusta will cancel the tournament before the Masters is played somewhere else.
There was some protest a while back for which I cannot remember the reason, but many sponsors were pulling ads. So the Masters with CBS ran the tournament ad free rather than cancel. Was it over allowing women to join the club?
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I mean since August National Golf Club owns the Masters and it's their tournament to do whatever they want with. So unless South Carolina annexes part of Georgia, the Masters is staying where Bobby Jones wanted it.
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There was some protest a while back for which I cannot remember the reason, but many sponsors were pulling ads. So the Masters with CBS ran the tournament ad free rather than cancel. Was it over allowing women to join the club?
Google Martha Burk.
And yes, it was about the lack of female members.
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And yet you post on a message board for a team in the NCAA.
suffice it to say, i've got very clean dishes, floors and toilets
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Just went for a driver fitting. The one that I had the best numbers with would have cost me $100 per yard gained and per yard closer to the center line. Meh. The dispersion pattern was basically a single line, but no miracle stick.
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I am replacing my irons and went for a fitting last night and the technology is amazing. I am very glad I took the time to figure out the best sticks for me. Only problem is 6-8 week delivery. Golf will keep busy until tip off for the Warriors in the Fall.
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I am probably going to start trying out irons after spring break. I don't know that I need more distance. I would just like some more forgiveness and consistency. Where did you land on irons, goose?
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You guys are getting blades right? YOTB.
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No. Hell, no. Not enough game.
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Just went for a driver fitting. The one that I had the best numbers with would have cost me $100 per yard gained and per yard closer to the center line. Meh. The dispersion pattern was basically a single line, but no miracle stick.
Club head won't make a ton a difference but getting in the right shaft will. Since I went to Accra Tour Z TZ6 on all my woods I added 25-30 yards plus a much tighter dispersion. The shaft is even 1.5-2" shorter than stock since I am 5-7" on a good day. Worth the pennies IMO.
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You guys are getting blades right? YOTB.
Remember, Callaway doesn't make a blade.
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Remember, Callaway doesn't make a blade.
Preach brother.
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No. Hell, no. Not enough game.
I’ve been playing MP-33s in the few holes I’ve got in this year. Such fun when you pure a blade.
They’ll help the ball striking and lessons will be learned.
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6 rounds in. All in the 70s. Most in the wind. Love hitting 3/4 knock down pitching wedges from 80 yards into the wind.
Keep your blades. Give me my hybrids.
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6 rounds in. All in the 70s. Most in the wind. Love hitting 3/4 knock down pitching wedges from 80 yards into the wind.
Keep your blades. Give me my hybrids.
Hybrids are allowed, 4 and higher!
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Tower
I went into the fitting hoping the Titleist T200's would be the sticks I ended up with, but I trusted the Trackman and the guy fitting me and went with Taylor Made P790's. I actually like the look of them better and pretty jacked for them to arrive at my house in June.
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Are fittings still free when you purchase the clubs from them? And did you get or ask for a ball fitting while on the Trackman?
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The fitting was free. I did not ask on the ball fitting.
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Tower
I went into the fitting hoping the Titleist T200's would be the sticks I ended up with, but I trusted the Trackman and the guy fitting me and went with Taylor Made P790's. I actually like the look of them better and pretty jacked for them to arrive at my house in June.
Really like the update to the P790s. Slick looking club.
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Is Speith officially "back"? I haven't watched him very much the past few months.
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Is Speith officially "back"? I haven't watched him very much the past few months.
He looks very much like his old self
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I guess his short game is alright. These guys are pretty good.
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I guess his short game is alright. These guys are pretty good.
Good time for him to find his game.
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Riding the rails on the Jordo Train has been a blast.
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I'm going all in on Rory to win The Masters this week. Looking forward to a fun week of golf and great news on the recruiting/transfer front at MU.
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I'm going all in on Rory to win The Masters this week. Looking forward to a fun week of golf and great news on the recruiting/transfer front at MU.
Goose-
Curious why you’re going all in on Rory?
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Feeling Finau.
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Feeling Finau.
That would be some story. Hope it happens.
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Rico
I like Rory because he really is coming in as an underdog, in regards to the odds. The past handful of years he has been a big storyline and pressure of winning has been high. I think he goes back to us swing, not the Bryson swing for the fences and gets it done. I think flying under the radar is going to help him this week.
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I'm going all in on Rory to win The Masters this week. Looking forward to a fun week of golf and great news on the recruiting/transfer front at MU.
I'm on board with all of that, Goose. Big fan of Rory, and hoping for a big week for our alma mater.
With Rory, though, concerned that his realization that he shouldn't try to out-DeChambeau golf's biggest hitter might require a bit of a mental and physical breaking-in period.
So while I'd love to see Rory win, I'm thinking maybe Dustin Johnson again. I just about never predict these right, though.
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I had my first two-birdie round in many years today - part of a par-birdie-bogey-birdie stretch that for a hack like me is akin to winning a major.
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I had my first two-birdie round in many years today - part of a par-birdie-bogey-birdie stretch that for a hack like me is akin to winning a major.
Congratulations. Stuff like that is why you keep coming back.
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Congratulations. Stuff like that is why you keep coming back.
One thing that's fun to me is the different expectations folks have for themselves. You were talking about not being especially happy with your play lately and you usually shoot 73 to 77.
Pros are unhappy if they ever get a bogey. On the other end of the spectrum, I play with a guy who just took up golf last year and has yet to break 100; it will be a day of celebration when he gets that first "honest 99."
I am very happy when I break 90 - something that hasn't happened this year yet on a "big boy course." Had a chance for 40 on the back yesterday but barely missed three 8-15 foot putts on my last three holes after my nice little stretch. It's been at least 3 years since I shot 40 for 9.
And if I shot a 77, tower, I think I'd gold-plate my clubs and give up golf forever knowing that it would never get better than that!
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I shouldn't bother telling you that I chipped in on 18 at my regular course for my first sup par round of the year.
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Anyone wear sunglasses while golfing? I've read that yellow or copper help with contrast for green reading. I've worn transition lenses in the past but have decided to go with my RK corrected naked eyes this year which are pretty close to 20-20. Just wondering what others have experienced.
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I play in prescription Oakley's. I had a pair of Nike sunglasses with golf specific lenses for about 6 years until the frames wore out.
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I play in prescription Ray Bans. My regular glasses are bifocals that makes my line of sight blurry as I swing a club.
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Mine are my distance prescription only. I lose the ball on my downswing when I try to play in bifocals.
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Anyone wear sunglasses while golfing? I've read that yellow or copper help with contrast for green reading. I've worn transition lenses in the past but have decided to go with my RK corrected naked eyes this year which are pretty close to 20-20. Just wondering what others have experienced.
I have Oakley Prizm glasses I wear. I still have better than 20/20 vision but it's getting closer to it now post 40. So no prescription here. 2 big things they help with:
1) Reading greens
2) Seeing my yellow Snell MTB Black in the rough
I love em.
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Playing in bifocals is definitely discouraged.
https://www.swingsurgeon.com/daily-video-tips/dont-wear-bifocals-when-you-play-golf
What color(s) are your lenses? This article suggests brown or amber or rose would be the preferred choice so that is what I would be leaning towards.
https://www.sportrx.com/blog/best-lens-colors-for-golf-sunglasses/
Those Prizms appear to be a good choice.
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Anyone wear sunglasses while golfing? I've read that yellow or copper help with contrast for green reading. I've worn transition lenses in the past but have decided to go with my RK corrected naked eyes this year which are pretty close to 20-20. Just wondering what others have experienced.
I always hated it. My main problem was that I'd see the ball or the grass or the sky or whatever out the bottoms of my frames and it kind of messed me up. Even though my vision is not good in my left eye (but almost 20/20 in my right), I preferred no glasses at all, sunglasses or otherwise.
But about a month ago, I started wearing prescription Oakley wraps. So I don't see around the sides, top and bottom of the frames. I see everything more clearly, too. I credit it with helping my putting for sure, and just making me more comfortable in general golfing.
Hearing what some fellow Scoopers are saying about Prizm lenses, I think that next time I get a new prescription I might give them a whirl.
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I shouldn't bother telling you that I chipped in on 18 at my regular course for my first sup par round of the year.
I'm glad you told me. I root for others to have fun and excel. Congrats on going under par. That's cool.
Like most high-handicappers, I'm not especially good at anything. But I am REALLY bad at chipping. I bet it costs me 5-10 strokes per round. I've taken a couple of lessons, gone to short-game clinics, etc. I think I know what I'm supposed to do, but when I stand over the ball I get the chipping yips; mostly, I believe I tend to decelerate on my downswing. It's very frustrating.
Next time I visit my best MU buddy in suburban Detroit, I'm gonna drop in on you and let you turn me into Chippy McChipperson!
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The best thing that ever happened to my short game was being poor when I got married. We lived in an apartment complex. An old snowbird lived there and the complex allowed him to set up and maintain a putting green that made an L around the swimming pool. I didn't have enough money to golf very often. But I did have a wedge and a lot of time. I happened to read an article on the short game in one of the golf mags about then and took those fundamentals out to the green. It was too slow to really practice long putts on. So I spent hours on chipping and 3 foot putts. I would chip for an hour or until I holed one, whichever came last. I started putting crosshanded in 1992. I broke 90 for the first time in '92 and 80 for the first time in 1993. All short game.
To this day, the strength of my game is short game and making 6' putts. Whenever either goes astray, I can usually fix them with an hour and a couple of balls at one of the local courses.
I have fixed friends short games when they have asked. Nothing would make me happier than playing golf with you, Mike.
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tower
I need a short game lesson badly. Once a strength of my game has became a nightmare. I do believe I need to get "real" glasses and that could help to some degree. My putting on an everyday course costs me a minimum of 4-6 shots a round. Ironically, when I pay big money for a round my putting always rises to the occasion. Could use your help!!!
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Golf summit?
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tower
If it improves my putting, I'm in!
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What is different with your short game and putting compared to the past?
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The best thing that ever happened to my short game was being poor when I got married. We lived in an apartment complex. An old snowbird lived there and the complex allowed him to set up and maintain a putting green that made an L around the swimming pool. I didn't have enough money to golf very often. But I did have a wedge and a lot of time. I happened to read an article on the short game in one of the golf mags about then and took those fundamentals out to the green. It was too slow to really practice long putts on. So I spent hours on chipping and 3 foot putts. I would chip for an hour or until I holed one, whichever came last. I started putting crosshanded in 1992. I broke 90 for the first time in '92 and 80 for the first time in 1993. All short game.
To this day, the strength of my game is short game and making 6' putts. Whenever either goes astray, I can usually fix them with an hour and a couple of balls at one of the local courses.
I have fixed friends short games when they have asked. Nothing would make me happier than playing golf with you, Mike.
Objectively, I would say I am an average to above-average putter -- especially for a 60-year-old. I already was pretty decent, and the oversized grip I recently got helps me keep my wrists in the proper position. And my pitching game is tolerable. But the chipping ... drives me effen crazy!
So I might just take you up on that someday. But you are gonna forgive me for calling you a liar that NOTHING would make you happier - ha! I'll PM you next time I think I'm coming your way. And BTW, Charlotte's a great place for golf!
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Center shafted putters fit my eye the best. I don't like offset at all. I do have a Taylor Made Daddy long legs for when my Bettinardi misbehaves.
Oversize grips rock.
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I have Oakley Prizm glasses I wear. I still have better than 20/20 vision but it's getting closer to it now post 40. So no prescription here. 2 big things they help with:
1) Reading greens
2) Seeing my yellow Snell MTB Black in the rough
I love em.
My man!
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Center shafted putters fit my eye the best. I don't like offset at all. I do have a Taylor Made Daddy long legs for when my Bettinardi misbehaves.
Oversize grips rock.
Hate them. Can't putt with them. Super uncomfortable for me, but no idea why.
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I feel the exact same way about skinny grips. Vive la difference.
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tower
Number of factors in the big picture, I do not play often enough, eyesight, playing more courses and mental.
My chipping is decent, but putting kills me. Short and mid range is my biggest problem. Still a good long range putter, both speed and line.
Like any golfer, I can get streaky on short and mid ranges putts for a round or two but no carryover after that. Big issue on short putts is pulling the ball. Switched putters late last season and saw some improvement but to early to tell.
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When I start pulling short putts, it is usually because my backswing has gotten long and I decelerate coming through. I practice a Snedeker 'pop' stroke to get the feel of not giving the blade a chance to close. And I practice my swearing and excuses.
Finally, I try to buy clubs that float.
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When all else fails, break your putter and use your 5-wood.
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I have Oakley Prizm glasses I wear. I still have better than 20/20 vision but it's getting closer to it now post 40. So no prescription here. 2 big things they help with:
1) Reading greens
2) Seeing my yellow Snell MTB Black in the rough
I love em.
Whaddup Frittelli?
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USGA will require proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative test for any fan wanting to attend either the US Open or the US Women's Open.
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pgat-tour-covid-vaccine-protocols
The rest of the PGA tour is also making adjustments to their testing.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/pga-tour-strongly-encourages-players-caddies-to-get-covid-19-vaccine/ar-BB1fP11Y
A slightly different perspective.
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not sure if anyone posted or saw this this-MU's hunter eichhorn big east player of the year for 2nd time.
https://gomarquette.com/news/2021/5/7/mens-golf-eichhorn-is-two-time-big-east-player-of-the-year.aspx
another local guy doing well-harrison ott from brookfield, 5th year senior at vanderbilt. members at the legends golf clubs in waukesha county plus bergamont(andy north course) in oregon, wi.
https://www.wisconsin.golf/men/wsga/brookfields-harrison-ott-to-play-a-fifth-season-at-vanderbilt-before-turning-pro-allowing-him/article_547ab03e-7238-11eb-812e-137142cdbd00.html
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Reports that the USGA are thinking of pairing Brooks and Bryson for the first two rounds at the US Open. If true.... Dumb. The US Open doesn't need to generate hype.
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Reports that the USGA are thinking of pairing Brooks and Bryson for the first two rounds at the US Open. If true.... Dumb. The US Open doesn't need to generate hype.
Really dumb.
Way better for the rivalry if it happens organically over the weekend due to placement(preferably both would be right at the top too)
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Really dumb.
Way better for the rivalry if it happens organically over the weekend due to placement(preferably both would be right at the top too)
Yup. Plus it kind of punishes Koepka for getting out in front of the slow play stuff, IMO, which the PGA has expressly tried to focus on fixing. If a guy develops a rivalry with someone in part because he's willing to call him out for slow play, you don't respond by going and then making him play with the slow guy.
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The cicadas are making their presence known at Memorial. :)
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Wow. What an absolute disaster for Rahm who was leading the Memorial (by 6 shots) but is now a DQ because he tested positive for COVID. He's asymptomatic and I assume vaccinated.
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Wow. What an absolute disaster for Rahm who was leading the Memorial (by 6 shots) but is now a DQ because he tested positive for COVID. He's asymptomatic and I assume vaccinated.
I’m sure more will come out on Rahm’s situation, but my understanding is that the PGA does not require testing for players who are vaccinated. If Rahm was told he had a close contact that mandated testing that would seem to infer he isn’t vaccinated?
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pgat-tour-covid-vaccine-protocols
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I’m sure more will come out on Rahm’s situation, but my understanding is that the PGA does not require testing for players who are vaccinated. If Rahm was told he had a close contact that mandated testing that would seem to infer he isn’t vaccinated?
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/pgat-tour-covid-vaccine-protocols
I guess that could be right? I also think he had COVID before?
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I don’t feel bad for Rahm in the least. Get the eff’n vaccine already.
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I love it, I got Morikawa. Gives me major life.
Standard quarantine puts Rahm right up to the Us Open
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Is it possible Brooks and Bryson are conspiring to get the $5 million bonus?
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Morikawa wilting to the pressures of Sunday
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Morikawa wilting to the pressures of Sunday
Steadied himself a bit while Cantlay has had similar struggles and no one has surged from the back.
3 holes left to win.
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Cantlay just simply the better putter
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Brutal loss for Lexi Thompson at the USOpen. Ouch. :(
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An Olympic tradition. Blowing big leads on Sunday.
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Playing Pinehurst #2
My over/under is 126
My goal is to shoot 36 over which would be a 108, which would be getting somewhere near the green in regulation and then 4 to get it in the hole. Which would be a herculean effort for me.
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Herman
Enjoy #2. It is definitely in my top five favorite golf courses I have played.
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Everyone should enjoy #2, aina?
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Herman
Enjoy #2. It is definitely in my top five favorite golf courses I have played.
The course was as lush as I have ever seen it. Definitely needed the caddies. Could get it around the green in regulation, but the Greens were very difficult to putt and chipping was impossible.
Everyone should enjoy #2, aina?
Overall, I got the crap kicked out of me by #2. I got lucky and got two natural pars so that helped our team. But the rest of the course I was double and triple bogey every hole. Although I played the same ball the whole round which is crazy considering how high a score I shot.
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Shoulda sed, everywon should enjoy #2 every mornin', hey?
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Herman
I am very jealous that you played there yesterday. It has been quite some time since I have been to Pinehurst, but it was yearly trip for about 15 years in my younger days. Glad you had fun!!
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Playing Pinehurst #2
My over/under is 126
My goal is to shoot 36 over which would be a 108, which would be getting somewhere near the green in regulation and then 4 to get it in the hole. Which would be a herculean effort for me.
remember, "who...does...#2...work...for"...shoulda just bit our lip and gave her hell herman
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Played 36 at Lake Arrowhead on Saturday and then did the Sand Valley 53 on Sunday-Monday. Sand Valley and Mammoth Dunes are so incredible. The Sandbox is a great way to wind down and maybe try and make up some losses. Trappers Turn was Tuesday. Eh. Was going to do SentryWorld but they’re closed until fall and Wild Rock was hosting the boys D1 matches. Did Erin Hills today. Played there after it opened in 2006. Glad I finally went back out there. Worth every penny. Finish the week with 36 at Lawsonia tomorrow
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Played 36 at Lake Arrowhead on Saturday and then did the Sand Valley 53 on Sunday-Monday. Sand Valley and Mammoth Dunes are so incredible. The Sandbox is a great way to wind down and maybe try and make up some losses. Trappers Turn was Tuesday. Eh. Was going to do SentryWorld but they’re closed until fall and Wild Rock was hosting the boys D1 matches. Did Erin Hills today. Played there after it opened in 2006. Glad I finally went back out there. Worth every penny. Finish the week with 36 at Lawsonia tomorrow
How much did you love Lawsonia Links?
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How much did you love Lawsonia Links?
The Links is great and The Woodlands is far better than I remember. I made every dumb mistake you could on the links side but the layout is damn near perfect
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The Links is great and The Woodlands is far better than I remember. I made every dumb mistake you could on the links side but the layout is damn near perfect
The Woodlands is fine.
Headed to SV in two weeks. Very excited.
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It's not the big guns at the top but a fun finish at the Travelers.
Huge putt by English. Kramer follows with one of his own.
Playoff time.
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It's not the big guns at the top but a fun finish at the Travelers.
Huge putt by English. Kramer follows with one of his own.
Playoff time.
Ouch. 102 from the fairway to plugged in the bunker? Wow....just wow.
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Wow what a par! These guys are pretty good.
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This is wild going to a 4th playoff.
Hickok nailing his putts and English killing it with his shots on the green.
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Harris English v Kramer Hickok is the most 2021 PGA playoff. I mean, that’s four last names.
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Haha unreal.
Off to #6
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Alright hole number 8
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24 year old Nelly Korda wins the LPGA Tour PGA Championship, her 6th win on tour, and, she moves to number one in the world. Her older Jessica, 28, also has 6 LPGA Tour wins.
Their 20 year old brother Sebastian recently became the first American in 11 years to win a European Clay Court tennis title. He's one of the best young American players, top 50, 25th in 2021 points race. Playing Wimbledon this week.
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24 year old Nelly Korda wins the LPGA Tour PGA Championship, her 6th win on tour, and, she moves to number one in the world. Her older Jessica, 28, also has 6 LPGA Tour wins.
Their 20 year old brother Sebastian recently became the first American in 11 years to win a European Clay Court tennis title. He's one of the best young American players, top 50, 25th in 2021 points race. Playing Wimbledon this week.
That's truly amazing. A lot of people think Sebastian Korda is the best Americann prospect since Roddick.
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Damn. English finally drills one to win.
Crowd was definitely pro Kramer.
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mick says goodbye detroit...maybe
https://nypost.com/2021/07/01/phil-mickelson-wont-return-to-detroit-after-500k-gambling-report/
then a few hours later, says just kidding, IF enough "good deeds are performed"
i can understand the years of the "media" poking and prodding getting kinda old however
i like the guy, but come on man!
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PM was fair game for the media due to his wagering behavior and associating with persons of questionable repute. But this is an old story and I think it's fair for him to be scratching his head why the reporter would choose now to highlight it. Seems like a cheap way to get eyeballs on your byline. Maybe go do some work and break a new story. PM's reaction understandable.
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mick says goodbye detroit...maybe
https://nypost.com/2021/07/01/phil-mickelson-wont-return-to-detroit-after-500k-gambling-report/
then a few hours later, says just kidding, IF enough "good deeds are performed"
i can understand the years of the "media" poking and prodding getting kinda old however
i like the guy, but come on man!
MU Alum Brad Galli’s tweet is in that article. I think he’s become a very successful sports reporter in Detroit.
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Matsuyama tests positive for COVID. I am not sure he is going to be able to participate in his home country olympics.
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Matsuyama tests positive for COVID. I am not sure he is going to be able to participate in his home country olympics.
Would be heartbreaking. Hideki has been a favorite of mine since getting into golf around 2015.He’s a mega celebrity after Augusta, possibly lighting the Olympic flame.
But it’s not because of ignorance.
Get the shot people.
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Sand Valley is not only the most incredible place in Wisconsin, probably the Midwest and making a run at America once Lido and Sedge Valley are completed.
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Hi All,
Long time lurker first time poster. MU class of 2006. My daughter and I recently launched a casual golf apparel company. We currently have hats and tees, and have windbreakers, polos, crewnecks, and hoodies in production. Plan on producing a wide range of colorways as well.
www.snowmangolfapparel.com
IG @snowman_golf
If interested please use the code SHAKA for 20% off.
Thanks,
Snowman
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Hi All,
Long time lurker first time poster. MU class of 2006. My daughter and I recently launched a casual golf apparel company. We currently have hats and tees, and have windbreakers, polos, crewnecks, and hoodies in production. Plan on producing a wide range of colorways as well.
www.snowmangolfapparel.com
IG @snowman_golf
If interested please use the code SHAKA for 20% off.
Thanks,
Snowman
You need more info esp on your hats. Who makes it? Imperial? Is the shirt tri blend?
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You need more info esp on your hats. Who makes it? Imperial? Is the shirt tri blend?
Thanks for the feedback. I'll get that updated.
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Hi All,
Long time lurker first time poster. MU class of 2006. My daughter and I recently launched a casual golf apparel company. We currently have hats and tees, and have windbreakers, polos, crewnecks, and hoodies in production. Plan on producing a wide range of colorways as well.
www.snowmangolfapparel.com
IG @snowman_golf
If interested please use the code SHAKA for 20% off.
Thanks,
Snowman
good luck snowman! i'll be watching...just a thought-make a caricature of the number 8 swinging a golf club and the face of someone who just took a proverbial "snowman" have fun!
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good luck snowman! i'll be watching...just a thought-make a caricature of the number 8 swinging a golf club and the face of someone who just took a proverbial "snowman" have fun!
Love the idea! We have a double donut tee in the works. Breakfast balls. Would love any feedback (positive or negative going forward). Pre-orders opened up today. Was pleasantly surprised with the orders and website activity.
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Hi All,
Long time lurker first time poster. MU class of 2006. My daughter and I recently launched a casual golf apparel company. We currently have hats and tees, and have windbreakers, polos, crewnecks, and hoodies in production. Plan on producing a wide range of colorways as well.
www.snowmangolfapparel.com
IG @snowman_golf
If interested please use the code SHAKA for 20% off.
Thanks,
Snowman
Yeah down for the 4 putt shirt but brand is key to judge sizing.
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Yeah down for the 4 putt shirt but brand is key to judge sizing.
It's a Bella Canvas shirt. Private branding for the label. We have the Snowman script printed in the neck collar. Products are printed locally here in the Chicago area (not China).
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It's a Bella Canvas shirt. Private branding for the label. We have the Snowman script printed in the neck collar. Products are printed locally here in the Chicago area (not China).
Thanks
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Thanks
Made some updates to the product listings today. Thanks again for the feedback. So far things are going better than expected. I was on a IG cast with a collective group which definitely helped with traction.
We printed and shipped our first batch of shirts today. It was a cool experience.
If interested, I posted a story and reel on IG (@snowman_golf).
Thanks,
Snowman
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Golf Digest did a story on how a Tour Pro would shoot on a regular every day course set up from the whites. Bubba Watson participated on this experiment. Very fun article to read.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/bubba-watson-tour-pro-at-your-course?utm_medium=email&utm_source=072121&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM19696&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Rahm and Bryson to miss the Olympics after testing positive for COVID. Rahm is a puzzler.
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Rahm and Bryson to miss the Olympics after testing positive for COVID. Rahm is a puzzler.
Vaccinated people are getting positive tests. However, few iif any are having serious medical issues or hospitalizations. If the goal is zero positive tests, whether it be for athletes or any other profession, it's not going to happen. Frankly we have no earthly idea what the actual cases were before or are now because of the asymptomatic component of all of this. The obsession with "cases" isn't helpful at all.
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Rahm and Bryson to miss the Olympics after testing positive for COVID. Rahm is a puzzler.
Bryson messed up his steroid cycles, didn’t want to risk a positive test. Got COVID as an out.
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Bryson messed up his steroid cycles, didn’t want to risk a positive test. Got COVID as an out.
That's certainly possible.
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Good stuff from the women at the Evian. Two great swings from Yealimi Noh and Minjee Lee.
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Has anyone played Sand Hills in Nebraska?
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watching olympic golf-camera work is really questionable so far. they're really struggling to follow the ball and i've got it on a big screen
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Sepp Straka?? Has anyone heard of this guy?
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I've mentioned this briefly before, but switching to a stack and tilt swing has completely changed my golf game for the better. Played since I was 4ish. Changed starting last summer at 35.
In addition, conservative course management has also helped greatly.
Combination of the two has made the sport easier by improving consistency of swing and lowered the stress level.
If anyone's interested, I'd be happy to share some resources.
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Sepp Straka?? Has anyone heard of this guy?
Yes.
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Sepp Straka?? Has anyone heard of this guy?
Yes, he’s been on tour for a few years now. Going to be some randos popping up on a leaderboard in a 60-man field with limited top player participation. Marcus Fraser lead after two rounds in Rio
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I've mentioned this briefly before, but switching to a stack and tilt swing has completely changed my golf game for the better. Played since I was 4ish. Changed starting last summer at 35.
If anyone's interested, I'd be happy to share some resources.
At this point I'd try anything. I manage the course pretty well but my ball striking has been all over the map this season.
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At this point I'd try anything. I manage the course pretty well but my ball striking has been all over the map this season.
For swing help, Nick Taylor Golf and Saguto Golf on YouTube have been videos that have helped immensely. Nick is sometimes too focused on certain positions. Saguto breaks things down into very simple, repetitive ideas.
For course management, Golf Sidekick. Specifically, this video: https://youtu.be/sBHUDqyLDR8
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The Olympic Gold medal is now in the Xander zone.
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The Olympic Gold medal is now in the Xander zone.
Winning the gold is just perfect Xander. Guy loves limited field events.
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Winning the gold is just perfect Xander. Guy loves limited field events.
It’s amazing, isn’t it????
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Yeah down for the 4 putt shirt but brand is key to judge sizing.
Gaining quick traction through the Instagram channel. Several influencers have been very helpful.
Released two new hats today. Working the limited release market with t-shirts. Dropping 25 at a time open to subscribers first.
Would love it if you would have a look at our Instagram (@snowman_golf). SHAKA20 still stands for all products.
Thanks!
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I'm confused by De Charcuterie and his explanation for not getting a COVID vaccine. "I don't want to take it because I'm healthy and others need it before I do." Excuse me? I think we can debate mandates and all sorts of things but this is beyond bizarre to me. Did I miss that the elderly are not getting vaccines because younger people are taking them? WTF?
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I think his smarts are pretty limited outside of the physics of hitting a golf ball. Or he’s just trying to justify not getting it and tried to come up with something that sounds good.
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I think his smarts are pretty limited outside of the physics of hitting a golf ball. Or he’s just trying to justify not getting it and tried to come up with something that sounds good.
He gives SMU a bad name
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I think his smarts are pretty limited outside of the physics of hitting a golf ball. Or he’s just trying to justify not getting it and tried to come up with something that sounds good.
I don't have an answer but in his defense I decided not to play NBA basketball because I didn't want to take a spot from someone taller than me.
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Not sure why anyone is shocked the millionaire golfer that loves the Trump family isn’t vaccinated?
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I think his smarts are pretty limited outside of the physics of hitting a golf ball. Or he’s just trying to justify not getting it and tried to come up with something that sounds good.
He was a physics major at a very good school. He can err in judgement in something or have a dumb excuse for something and not be a moron. Not everything has to be a broad brush.
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Yealimi Noh and obviously Nelly Korda have superstar potential. It would be nice to see some Americans dominate the LPGA. Their swings are freaking perfection.
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Stuff happening at Liberty National
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Bryson DeChambeau is going to participate in the World Long Drive Contest
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/bryson-long-drive-championship?utm_medium=email&utm_source=082321&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM20833&uuid=85f898e378d547f4aa114b5572e1ddc5
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Congrats to Finau. A genuinely good guy who was way overdue to get a win.
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Yeah down for the 4 putt shirt but brand is key to judge sizing.
So the company is legit taking off. Will hit order #150 this morning in the first month and a half.
Shopify is running a promo through one of their add-ons (Maven). They are covering $20 on your first order.
Free shirts or other items discounted. Check out our latest post on Instagram for details. @snowman_golf
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De Charcuterie shot a 60 today.
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De Charcuterie shot a 60 today.
Charcuterie is what my wife used to call Chartouny.
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De Charcuterie shot a 60 today.
Preferred lies on a soft course, gonna get torn up.
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Preferred lies on a soft course, gonna get torn up.
Pampered babies
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Pampered babies
Pampered unnatural carnal knowledges. Good to see Cantlay returning to form before the RC though.
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Pampered unnatural carnal knowledges. Good to see Cantlay returning to form before the RC though.
We’ll see if it keeps up. He was gaining over 5 strokes per round on the greens over the first two rounds and losing strokes tee-to-green. I think he’s on the team regardless
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We’ll see if it keeps up. He was gaining over 5 strokes per round on the greens over the first two rounds and losing strokes tee-to-green. I think he’s on the team regardless
Agree he’s on the team. Treadstone.
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Yeaterday, i bumped into 3 young alum (2017) on my favorite course. They had decided to play Cedar Chase on their way to their buddy's cottage near Traverse City. I was wearing my MU hat, as was one of the three. We chatted for a moment and they allowed me to play through.
I put $15 on the counter at the turn to buy them a round when they came in. I stopped in again after my round. They had NOT come in for a beer at the turn.
WTH!?!? What kind of people is MU sending out into the world?
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Yeaterday, i bumped into 3 young alum (2017) on my favorite course. They had decided to play Cedar Chase on their way to their buddy's cottage near Traverse City. I was wearing my MU hat, as was one of the three. We chatted for a moment and they allowed me to play through.
I put $15 on the counter at the turn to buy them a round when they came in. I stopped in again after my round. They had NOT come in for a beer at the turn.
WTH!?!? What kind of people is MU sending out into the world?
Inexcusable.
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These greens are crazy soft. But....De Charcuterie just hit an 8-iron on a 220 yrd Par 3. WTF?
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Probably delofted the club at impact to a 7 iron, aina?
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Bryson b-dunk-a-dunk.
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It looks to me that Bryson's torso and shoulders are sliding forward on his downswing. He is getting a little ahead of the ball at impact. Or coming up and out to compensate. Swaying. On the bad swings on the back 9 today.
I have that glitch, too. Among so many others.
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It looks to me that Bryson's torso and shoulders are sliding forward on his downswing. He is getting a little ahead of the ball at impact. Or coming up and out to compensate. Swaying. On the bad swings on the back 9 today.
I have that glitch, too. Among so many others.
Is Cantlay now a lock for the RC? Don't besmirch your own game Tower because some steroid freak spins around like a top.
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My game sucks just fine on its own. And I think Cantlay is probably in.
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My game sucks just fine on its own. And I think Cantlay is probably in.
You're a very good player. Didn't you say mid 70's?
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Most days.
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Most days.
That's very solid. I'm still not there yet and may never get that good. I wish I could get some extra pop and height on my long irons.
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Hybrids. I have 3. There is nothing like the feel of a purely struck long iron. But it is far too elusive. I can hit my hybrids respectable diatances out of the rough, which helps on long par 4s and par 5s. Hitting a 3 or 4 iron out of the rough is a non starter.
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Hybrids. I have 3. There is nothing like the feel of a purely struck long iron. But it is far too elusive. I can hit my hybrids respectable diatances out of the rough, which helps on long par 4s and par 5s. Hitting a 3 or 4 iron out of the rough is a non starter.
I have a 3 hybrid which serves me pretty well but I can hit my low draw with my 4 iron consistently and I get more roll. Maybe I'll look at some lower loft hybrids. On a moderately long course I almost never get to the green in 2 on a par 5. The issue is what to do if I'm 240 yrds or more from the fairway. I don't think I'll ever get more than 270-275 from the tee which is also a prob. But I don't like the trampoline drivers and am generally super accurate with my old Cleveland. I also can't hit the 3W from the deck which is a mystery.
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Move it back in your stance.
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Move it back in your stance.
The 3W? I'll give it a whirl, ty.
The more I think about it....maybe Strick should go with the young guns. I'm not sure Simpson would be a great choice with the length of Whistling S. And Mickelson is just not playing well enough. I would think Reed is out. If it comes down to picking between Scheffler, Berger, and Burns who gets the nod?
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Damn. Looks like De Charcuterie is going to win in a sudden death playoff.
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Omg. Can we trust De Charcuterie for Ryder Cup? Wow....just wow.
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This has been mesmerizing to watch.
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Woooooooops!!!
Cantlay now in the driver's seat.
I missed what happened before the 2nd playoff hole? Did Bryson miss several putts? He looks rather upset. :)
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Damn. I have to give De Charcuterie credit for that par. 5th playoff hole? Wow.
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This is incredible.
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I don’t even know what to say. I need like 8 packs of cigarettes right now.
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Golf. Fun.
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Do they only play 17/18?
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Do they only play 17/18?
It depends on the venue. They try to use holes that are easiest to move fans around
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I guess this isn't breaking news but....these guys are good. Really good. That's a 475 yrds par 4 btw.
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What a clutch putt!! Bam!!
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Fantastic win for Cantlay!! Yes!! De Charcuterie cannot be happy.
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I vote for DeCharcuterie to be retire prior to the Ryder Cup. That nickname has aged about as well as a charcuterie board left on the first tee all weekend
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I vote for DeCharcuterie to be retire prior to the Ryder Cup. That nickname has aged about as well as a charcuterie board left on the first tee all weekend
I can put it to pasture if it bothers you. I thought it was pretty innocuous.
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I can put it to pasture if it bothers you. I thought it was pretty innocuous.
Muggys I like your nick name for Bryson so I would vote to keep it . You have been using since back in Dodds days.
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Muggys I like your nick name for Bryson so I would vote to keep it . You have been using since back in Dodds days.
Ty Herman. But JWags may be angry? I can always play it by ear.
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Ty Herman. But JWags may be angry? I can always play it by ear.
Haha I’m not angry. Just giving you a little grief. If you want my totally unnecessary opinion, I’d mix it every 3-4 mentions ;D
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I know it's just a little snapshot ... but based on what we saw Sunday, who would you rather have taking important putts in the Ryder Cup, Cantlay or DeChambeau?
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I know it's just a little snapshot ... but based on what we saw Sunday, who would you rather have taking important putts in the Ryder Cup, Cantlay or DeChambeau?
Bryson is a pretty good putter. He putted well in big spots in other tournaments, so a one off doesn’t concern me. The larger concern would be the reluctance with chipping
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Haha I’m not angry. Just giving you a little grief. If you want my totally unnecessary opinion, I’d mix it every 3-4 mentions ;D
Ha!! Alright. Your objection has been noted.
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Bryson is a pretty good putter. He putted well in big spots in other tournaments, so a one off doesn’t concern me. The larger concern would be the reluctance with chipping
I did see him putt one that was way off the green which was odd. Can he and Cantlay play together? The biggest question is who Strick will pair with Bryson? There's no way he sits in group play with his bombs off the tee.
I was listening to PGA radio a little bit and they were quite hard on Bryson. They pretty much called him out for his antics and in particular when he ripped his sponsors. Apparently he used to be a pretty fun guy to be around. Anyway, they suggested he is capable of dialing it back a bit and will be less surly during the Ryder Cup.
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The larger concern would be the reluctance with chipping
Uh-oh ... I guess I'm unlikely to be a captain's pick. Damn!
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I did see him putt one that was way off the green which was odd. Can he and Cantlay play together? The biggest question is who Strick will pair with Bryson? There's no way he sits in group play with his bombs off the tee.
I was listening to PGA radio a little bit and they were quite hard on Bryson. They pretty much called him out for his antics and in particular when he ripped his sponsors. Apparently he used to be a pretty fun guy to be around. Anyway, they suggested he is capable of dialing it back a bit and will be less surly during the Ryder Cup.
Yeah, I have no idea who you pair with Bryson. You probably don’t play him in alternate shot but I don’t think it matters in fourball. I could see him play with Finau in that type of format
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Yeah, I have no idea who you pair with Bryson. You probably don’t play him in alternate shot but I don’t think it matters in fourball. I could see him play with Finau in that type of format
I was mocked but I do believe Finau could sort of keep him in check. I'll be rooting just as hard for Bryson as the rest of the guys but it's on him to adapt to the situation. He's a tremendous player, and I get that he's a little idiosyncratic, but in team play you need that camaraderie. My take is in general he should be having more fun out there
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Can you picture a master of gamesmanship ayimg against Bryson? Someone like Seve? I am thinking that Sergio or Poulter could climb miles inside his head.
Bryson needs to flight his wedges and irons. The problem is that can't be quantified out to the nth degree.
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I was mocked but I do believe Finau could sort of keep him in check. I'll be rooting just as hard for Bryson as the rest of the guys but it's on him to adapt to the situation. He's a tremendous player, and I get that he's a little idiosyncratic, but in team play you need that camaraderie. My take is in general he should be having more fun out there
There is a difference between pairing him with someone who can keep him focused and locked in and encouraged, which may be Finau. You implied Finau would/could threaten to beat Bryson’s a** and physically intimidate him, which was a bit silly
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Finau being so chill and so nice may be more of a factor.
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Finau being so chill and so nice may be more of a factor.
Totally agree. That’s what I think could be the differentiator
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I fear that Bryson has rabbit ears. And there is a portion of people attending events who will troll him just to get a response. It isn't whether they like him or not. It is whether they think they can invade his brain. Think Monty or Sergio, only in 2021. It is going to escalate until Bryson snaps, either at a fan or just steps away for a period of time.
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There is a difference between pairing him with someone who can keep him focused and locked in and encouraged, which may be Finau. You implied Finau would/could threaten to beat Bryson’s a** and physically intimidate him, which was a bit silly
Fair point JWags and I get your take. Tony's chill demeanor should benefit any partner he has for Ryder Cup. I didn't mean to imply Finau would "threaten" to beat Bryson's ass, but more that he could very easily take him out if push came to shove (so to speak). Now this may be silly, but perhaps Bryson realizes this and doesn't want to behave like an unmitigated douchebag because of the tiny chance Finau gets angry. :) Sometimes I like to think outside the box.
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https://www.golfchannel.com/news/pga-tour-commissioner-jay-monahan-brooksie-cheers-disrespectful-could-lead-expulsion
what a baby
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What a sad commentary on meathead fans.
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/brooks-koepka-call-off-bryson-dechambeau-feud-
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/brooks-koepka-call-off-bryson-dechambeau-feud-
Who wins in a physical altercation Herman? Or are they fake tough guys? Brooksy??
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What a bunch of snowflakes
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Thanks Barstool.
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Who wins in a physical altercation Herman? Or are they fake tough guys? Brooksy??
Muggsy :
Depends on the style :
In boxing I would say De Charcuterie because he could land the knockout blow. In MMA, I would give it to Brooksy as he would be more agile. In Raslin I would say a tie since neither could get a pin
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USA with a disastrous opening session at the Solheim Cup.
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USA with a disastrous opening session at the Solheim Cup.
Saw that. WTH? Total lack of focus across the board. All the pairings were in excellent position through 15 holes. They better wake up or it's curtains.
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Someone picked up Bryson's bal!?!
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Nice to see team USA women waking up in the Solheim Cup after a disastrous Saturday. They're about to cut the lead to only down one, 6.5 to 5.5.
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Covid ended up costing Rahm about $11.7 million.
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What in the world is happening to Team USA in the Solheim Cup? Extremely disappointing. Will take a miracle comeback and we have more talent.
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What in the world is happening to Team USA in the Solheim Cup? Extremely disappointing. Will take a miracle comeback and we have more talent.
Interesting story about Bubba Watson helping the US Solheim cup team this week
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2021/09/04/lpga-solheim-cup-bubba-watson-hype-man-inverness-club-team-usa-helper/
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What in the world is happening to Team USA in the Solheim Cup? Extremely disappointing. Will take a miracle comeback and we have more talent.
Do we?
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Do we?
Nope
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Disagree. Look at the rankings. Plus we were on home soil. Disappointing performance imo.
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Is Koepka out for the RC?
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No one officially knows.
A whole lot of matches went to 18. Europe won more of them. And they have won more lately. American superiority in women's golf is an American myth. And God forbid there is ever a women's version of the President's cup. The world team would embarrass either the US or European team.
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No one officially knows.
A whole lot of matches went to 18. Europe won more of them. And they have won more lately. American superiority in women's golf is an American myth. And God forbid there is ever a women's version of the President's cup. The world team would embarrass either the US or European team.
Well, yes. We would have serious issues in a President's Cup. That Irish golfer destroyed our team.
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Curious: How many folks truly get bummed if "we" don't succeed in these international golf competitions (or tennis or the Olympics or whatever)?
I mostly like drama. I want the Ryder Cup to come down to the very end. So I loved it when Justin Leonard hit that putt; but I also have enjoyed watching the Europeans pull off some incredible shots over the years, and the camaraderie they usually have had.
And I appreciate excellence, so I have had no problem watching Rafa, Roger and Novak kicking Americans' butts for the last 2 decades ... while also really applauding Serena's 2 decades of dominance. Had Serena been from Portugal, I wouldn't have appreciated her any less. As a tennis fan, it doesn't matter to me that America doesn't have any men who win majors. I've been a big fan of both McEnroe and Nadal.
I absolutely loved watching Usain Bolt. He didn't need to be an American for me to root for him. But I also rooted for Mary Lou Retton. Etc etc etc.
And of course, like many, I love a good underdog story. So the years where America is expected to win the Ryder Cup in a cakewalk, I get a kick out of "us" getting beaten. And vice versa.
But I just wonder if something is "ruined" for some of y'all because America doesn't win.
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Not really. The finish of the Solheim cup two years ago was incredible. I generally enjoy a good underdog story.
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Curious: How many folks truly get bummed if "we" don't succeed in these international golf competitions (or tennis or the Olympics or whatever)?
I mostly like drama. I want the Ryder Cup to come down to the very end. So I loved it when Justin Leonard hit that putt; but I also have enjoyed watching the Europeans pull off some incredible shots over the years, and the camaraderie they usually have had.
And I appreciate excellence, so I have had no problem watching Rafa, Roger and Novak kicking Americans' butts for the last 2 decades ... while also really applauding Serena's 2 decades of dominance. Had Serena been from Portugal, I wouldn't have appreciated her any less. As a tennis fan, it doesn't matter to me that America doesn't have any men who win majors. I've been a big fan of both McEnroe and Nadal.
I absolutely loved watching Usain Bolt. He didn't need to be an American for me to root for him. But I also rooted for Mary Lou Retton. Etc etc etc.
And of course, like many, I love a good underdog story. So the years where America is expected to win the Ryder Cup in a cakewalk, I get a kick out of "us" getting beaten. And vice versa.
But I just wonder if something is "ruined" for some of y'all because America doesn't win.
I root for my country in sporting events that are pure human. As for the Olympics? It's nonsense because all animals can't compete and many would put a serious ass whooping on the eligible competitors.
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Bryson out in Nevada competing in the Long Drive championships, and actually doing quite well. Multiple 400+ yard drives, 2nd in his group, won a heat or two. He won't win, but its cool that he's doing it and actually hanging with specialists. He's had a fantastic 2 weeks PR wise. Be great if he can continue turning it around and having fun with everything.
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Bryson out in Nevada competing in the Long Drive championships, and actually doing quite well. Multiple 400+ yard drives, 2nd in his group, won a heat or two. He won't win, but its cool that he's doing it and actually hanging with specialists. He's had a fantastic 2 weeks PR wise. Be great if he can continue turning it around and having fun with everything.
Thoughts if he can get to a consistent 400 yrd range? The guy is a tireless worker. I would imagine he's trying for even more distance.
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Thoughts if he can get to a consistent 400 yrd range? The guy is a tireless worker. I would imagine he's trying for even more distance.
Nah. There aren't enough fairways that would give that benefit, plus its an unsustainable swing. Its a fun side project and I'm sure there are learnings to be taken away for his game. But being able to bomb in the 325-350 range consistently is more than enough.
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Nah. There aren't enough fairways that would give that benefit, plus its an unsustainable swing. Its a fun side project and I'm sure there are learnings to be taken away for his game. But being able to bomb in the 325-350 range consistently is more than enough.
Yea, I’m guessing there’s a reason he’s doing it 3 months away from the next meaningful golf he will have to play.
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Yea, I’m guessing there’s a reason he’s doing it 3 months away from the next meaningful golf he will have to play.
Are they testing for steroids in the final quarter of the year?
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Nah. There aren't enough fairways that would give that benefit, plus its an unsustainable swing. Its a fun side project and I'm sure there are learnings to be taken away for his game. But being able to bomb in the 325-350 range consistently is more than enough.
Ya.....I wish I had a little more pop. Every time try one of these trampoline drivers I have no consistency. Another 20 yards and I could probably shave two strokes. :(
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Are they testing for steroids in the final quarter of the year?
My thought was more if he tweaked an oblique or something.
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Are they testing for steroids in the final quarter of the year?
Well, he's knot like Tiger or Annika. Orr iz he, hey?
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It gets tough in the later rounds to get one in play. With his PGA Tour ability, Bryson may actually be able to pop one in play early and then go crazy on his later swings.
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Bones getting back on the bag for JT. I think this will be a really good move for both. JT did pretty well with Bones as a fill-in when Jimmy Johnson was injured, and Bones had the luxury of waiting for the right bag to open up.
What's good for JT is bad for us, however. Bones was an absolute asset on the telecast, he added a lot of insight to the call. I'll definitely miss hearing what he has to say.
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Bones getting back on the bag for JT. I think this will be a really good move for both. JT did pretty well with Bones as a fill-in when Jimmy Johnson was injured, and Bones had the luxury of waiting for the right bag to open up.
What's good for JT is bad for us, however. Bones was an absolute asset on the telecast, he added a lot of insight to the call. I'll definitely miss hearing what he has to say.
I think John Wood is already better than Bones.
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I think John Wood is already better than Bones.
Both are/were very good. Need some fresh perspectives on golf coverage across the board
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Both are/were very good. Need some fresh perspectives on golf coverage across the board
I remember saying that when Johnny retired.
Then Azinger happened.
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I remember saying that when Johnny retired.
Then Azinger happened.
Azinger wasn’t really a fresh voice, though. He was ABC before they lost all golf and was on Fox. He’s terrible on NBC. He makes Faldo look like Romo
I’m sure someone will offer a lot to Phil but I’d bet he’d rather do something like the Manning cast.
I personally like Curt Byrum and Craig Perks but they don’t “move the needle”.
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Azinger wasn’t really a fresh voice, though. He was ABC before they lost all golf and was on Fox. He’s terrible on NBC. He makes Faldo look like Romo
I’m sure someone will offer a lot to Phil but I’d bet he’d rather do something like the Manning cast.
I personally like Curt Byrum and Craig Perks but they don’t “move the needle”.
I played in a golf outing foursome With Curt Byrum and Charley Rymer in 2004. Byrum was an absolute gentleman and every time I hear his voice it reminds of what a good guy he was .
Charley Rymer was a very funny guy . He could hit the ball a mile but he had a very high hook that frequent went OB . Easy to see why he had to stop playing.
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Tiger got his first PGA Tour victory 25 years ago this week - the 1996 Las Vegas Invitational.
Damn ... where does the time go?
I remember when he used to be young. Hell, I remember when I used to be young ... though the passage of time has made that one more difficult to recall!
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Hoo kares, hey?
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Hoo kares, hey?
I do
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Any clue why the Bryson/Brooks match is only 12 holes? So Brooks doesn’t get bored? Better for TV?
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Any clue why the Bryson/Brooks match is only 12 holes? So Brooks doesn’t get bored? Better for TV?
Time constraints. The other ones have been so slow and it’s hard to fill that much airtime
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Any clue why the Bryson/Brooks match is only 12 holes? So Brooks doesn’t get bored? Better for TV?
If they really want to get ratings , they should have made it a 12 round. Icing boxing match. Strap on 16 ounce gloves and have at it
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2030 President’s Cup at Bellerive.
Horrific choice, but that’s the PGA Tour for you.
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2030 President’s Cup at Bellerive.
Horrific choice, but that’s the PGA Tour for you.
Feel terrible for the players that will have to spend a week in St. Louis. Have to assume the international team will name Yadier Molina captain
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Feel terrible for the players that will have to spend a week in St. Louis. Have to assume the international team will name Yadier Molina captain
Archman senses are tingling
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2030 President’s Cup at Bellerive.
Horrific choice, but that’s the PGA Tour for you.
Venue has hosted other big events . St Louis has no pro football team to compete with fan attendance .
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Venue has hosted other big events . St Louis has no pro football team to compete with fan attendance .
It’s a terrible course
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Has anyone golfed near Birmingham, AL in mid November? Thinking about heading down next weekend. Any reco's?
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Has anyone golfed near Birmingham, AL in mid November? Thinking about heading down next weekend. Any reco's?
Try any of these in Robert Trent Jones Trail
https://www.rtjgolf.com/trail/
If you know a club pro see if he/she can get you’ve in Greystone Club
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Thanks, my plan is to play Ross Bridge and Oxmoor Valley...question is, if I can only do one course at Oxmoor, which should I go for....Ridge or Valley?? Or just suck it up and play 36 that day?
Greystone CC looks awesome. Too bad I don't know any golf pros....
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Thanks, my plan is to play Ross Bridge and Oxmoor Valley...question is, if I can only do one course at Oxmoor, which should I go for....Ridge or Valley?? Or just suck it up and play 36 that day?
Greystone CC looks awesome. Too bad I don't know any golf pros....
Ridge is a more mountain type course versus the Valley. Play both of you have the energy.
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May have been my last round of the year. If so, it was a blast. Mid 50's spitting rain blowing sideways. A course that can be benign, but in the conditions gets revealed as an inland links course, with false fronts but room to punch a 3 hybrid from 160 into the wind and let it chase up. Not just geometry or video game golf, but taking ego out of the equation and making up shots in the conditions to get the ball somewhere near where you want it. Starting it 30 yards off line and letting the wind bring it back. I don't know that I ever took a full swing with an iron today, instead taking lots of extra club and hitting choke down knock down 3/4 shots below the wind. 7 irons from 115. 3 Woods from 175. What an absolute hoot. Didn't even take a score card. It would have gotten soaked and disintegrated anyway.
I have played in these conditions a few times. I understand why the British/Scottish/Irish so dearly love their seaside links courses. Just having to invent shots.
Finally, with all of the precipitation, I got to play my own Rain Gear games.
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May have been my last round of the year. If so, it was a blast. Mid 50's spitting rain blowing sideways. A course that can be benign, but in the conditions gets revealed as an inland links course, with false fronts but room to punch a 3 hybrid from 160 into the wind and let it chase up. Not just geometry or video game golf, but taking ego out of the equation and making up shots in the conditions to get the ball somewhere near where you want it. Starting it 30 yards off line and letting the wind bring it back. I don't know that I ever took a full swing with an iron today, instead taking lots of extra club and hitting choke down knock down 3/4 shots below the wind. 7 irons from 115. 3 Woods from 175. What an absolute hoot. Didn't even take a score card. It would have gotten soaked and disintegrated anyway.
I have played in these conditions a few times. I understand why the British/Scottish/Irish so dearly love their seaside links courses. Just having to invent shots.
Finally, with all of the precipitation, I got to play my own Rain Gear games.
That’s what I call proper golf
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Wow . This is incredible . Tiger swinging beautifully
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tiger-woods-swing-video
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RIP Lee Elder, a trailblazer who was the first Black golfer to play in the Masters.
In the run-up to the '75 Masters, Elder received death threats. He rented two houses near Augusta National and moved between them to keep any potential assassins guessing.
He ended up playing in the Masters 6 times, his top finish a tie for 17th place in 1979. He won 4 PGA Tour events and finished second 10 times. He also played for the victorious U.S. team in the 1979 Ryder Cup (though he didn't do that well, going 1-3). He went on to win 8 times on the Senior Tour.
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Does anyone have any recommendations for where one should golf around Los Angeles? I'm heading out that way next week and have no firm plans other than Sandpiper in Santa Barabara.
I presume Angeles National?
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Los Angeles Country Club, hey?
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Los Angeles Country Club, hey?
Riviera Country Club would be fun too.
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What da hell, take a drive down to Torrey Pines, hey?
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What da hell, take a drive down to Torrey Pines, hey?
Could play both courses there
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Does anyone have any recommendations for where one should golf around Los Angeles? I'm heading out that way next week and have no firm plans other than Sandpiper in Santa Barabara.
I presume Angeles National?
Rustic Canyon is the top of the public list if I were in LA.
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Thanks for the suggestions! Torrey Pines might have to be its own trip...we'll see.
Rustic Canyon seems doable...not sure if I can get into the country clubs though.
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Thanks for the suggestions! Torrey Pines might have to be its own trip...we'll see.
Rustic Canyon seems doable...not sure if I can get into the country clubs though.
You can’t get onto Riviera without a member. Don’t know about LACC
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You can’t get onto Riviera without a member. Don’t know about LACC
He ain’t getting on LACC either without a member or a call from a decent club pro.
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Tiger playing a hit and giggle this weekend. Using a cart.
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Tiger playing a hit and giggle this weekend. Using a cart.
I am predicting Tiger will return to the Tour , he will modify his game to be more along the lines of shorter straight hitting and good short game types. I think he can be effective.
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I am predicting Tiger will return to the Tour , he will modify his game to be more along the lines of shorter straight hitting and good short game types. I think he can be effective.
No chance. He’s almost 46, riddled with injuries. He can play token events and majors but any effectiveness he will have will be on the Champions Tour
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No chance. He’s almost 46, riddled with injuries. He can play token events and majors but any effectiveness he will have will be on the Champions Tour
He already said he’s only playing a few events here and there moving forward which probably means majors and things like Memorial. He’s basically going to take the Hogan approach which is fine. At this point, he’s done more than enough for the tour and the game
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The shorter and flatter the course, the more likely he is to play. Other than Augusta.
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Yeah, I hope he picks his spots well. If I’m Tiger, you won’t see me at another US Open.
Tiger at St. Andrews for the 150th Open would be fairytale stuff.
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Yeah, I hope he picks his spots well. If I’m Tiger, you won’t see me at another US Open.
Tiger at St. Andrews for the 150th Open would be fairytale stuff.
A 46 year old with a bad back won't win the Open. By the time the next major begins, there will 1 major winner that was older than Tiger. And Phil didn't have the myriad injuries. This talk of Tiger winning another needs to chill. The '19 Masters was crazy, but he's made no other top 20s, missed cuts in half the Majors he's played and won 1 other tourney in 3 years. And I'd be saying this if he didn't have the car accident.
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A 46 year old with a bad back won't win the Open. By the time the next major begins, there will 1 major winner that was older than Tiger. And Phil didn't have the myriad injuries. This talk of Tiger winning another needs to chill. The '19 Masters was crazy, but he's made no other top 20s, missed cuts in half the Majors he's played and won 1 other tourney in 3 years. And I'd be saying this if he didn't have the car accident.
It sounds to me like Tiger is not really planning on competing to win anymore anyways. He doesn't need to; he has nothing to prove.
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It sounds to me like Tiger is not really planning on competing to win anymore anyways. He doesn't need to; he has nothing to prove.
I don't disagree, he has nothing to prove.
Its just the refrain of everyone that somehow still thinks Tiger is invincible. For whatever reason it can't just be "great to see Tiger healthy and back swinging a club". Its the inevitable hypothetical path or scenario to him being really successful and snatching more majors which is just baffling to me.
It feels like people want to like golf, but can't separate that from their Tiger fandom of the last 25 years, so they need him back to justify caring or something.
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In theory, I could see him doing well at St. Andrews. But as soon as the weather turns cold and damp, everything is going to ache like hell. And if it is warm and dry, the bombers will tear it up.
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I don't disagree, he has nothing to prove.
Its just the refrain of everyone that somehow still thinks Tiger is invincible. For whatever reason it can't just be "great to see Tiger healthy and back swinging a club". Its the inevitable hypothetical path or scenario to him being really successful and snatching more majors which is just baffling to me.
It feels like people want to like golf, but can't separate that from their Tiger fandom of the last 25 years, so they need him back to justify caring or something.
I definitely get what you're saying. Part of me hopes he is invincible because I'm a huge Tiger fan. But I'm just happy that he is healthy, swinging a club, and playing golf with his kid. Anything more is gravy at this point!
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54 holes the last 3 days. God bless global warming.
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Tiger and son Charlie looks good Saturday
I think when Tiger is fully recovered , he will be competitive in the limited schedule he plays.
My guess is he will be able to win again .
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Taylor Made Stealth. Carbon fiber face $600. What is your limit for how much you will spend on a new club? And how much of a gain would you have to see to spend $600?
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Taylor Made Stealth. Carbon fiber face $600. What is your limit for how much you will spend on a new club? And how much of a gain would you have to see to spend $600?
I would need a money-back guarantee of 10 strokes coming off my score!
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Learn to chip.
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Learn to chip.
Or quit after 15.
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looking to demo the ping G425 and the cobra radspeed drivers and fairway woods $450-500
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Or quit after 15.
i should have but you still would have kicked my arse.
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Learn to chip.
Damn straight!
Or quit after 15.
Also damn straight!
Which, by the way, is not how I hit my shots.
Well, actually, I say "Damn!" after I hit them a lot.
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Taylor Made Stealth. Carbon fiber face $600. What is your limit for how much you will spend on a new club? And how much of a gain would you have to see to spend $600?
Hell, I've lost more than that after 3 holes, hey?
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Taylor Made Stealth. Carbon fiber face $600. What is your limit for how much you will spend on a new club? And how much of a gain would you have to see to spend $600?
It’s the Sim 1 with a flashy face and a paint job.
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OK, sitting in quarantine in a blizzard...... the marketing hype is starting to resonate with me. For both TM and Callaway.
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OK, sitting in quarantine in a blizzard...... the marketing hype is starting to resonate with me. For both TM and Callaway.
(https://mizunogolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/221_Workshop.jpg)
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I already went through my Mizuno crush phase.
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I already went through my Mizuno crush phase.
It ends? For irons? Come on
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I already went through my Mizuno crush phase.
I have quite a literal mixed bag, I do love my mizuno wedges though.
Considering getting a mizuno putter as well. One of the more “reasonably” priced brand name putters out there.
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I got a center shafted Bettinardi, put a big grip on it. I won't be changing that any time soon.
Retire0, I have fallen in love with multiple sets of Mizuno irons in the abstract over the years. When I hit them, the difference is never enough for me to pull the trigger. I do the same things with drivers. I actually got fitted for drivers twice last year. Neither time did I gain more than 3 yards. So the eternal question, how much to pay for 3 yards and a slightly tighter dispersion?
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I am 100% in love with TM p790's, best investment I have made in golf equipment in 15+ years. I am getting fitted for new driver this weekend and then I will be all set.
Do any of guys hit the simulator over the winter? I am hooked and will be spending a ton of time working on my game prior to my upcoming trip to Naples next month.
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Those Mizunos look tough to hit but I really like my JPX-825s.
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I got a center shafted Bettinardi, put a big grip on it. I won't be changing that any time soon.
Retire0, I have fallen in love with multiple sets of Mizuno irons in the abstract over the years. When I hit them, the difference is never enough for me to pull the trigger. I do the same things with drivers. I actually got fitted for drivers twice last year. Neither time did I gain more than 3 yards. So the eternal question, how much to pay for 3 yards and a slightly tighter dispersion?
Here's the question though, what shaft did you get fit for? Once I finally got fit into my Accra Tour Z TZ6 shafts I gained about 25-30 yards on both fairway woods and 35-40 on the driver with very marked improvement on the dispersion too. Much better long term investment.
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I am 100% in love with TM p790's, best investment I have made in golf equipment in 15+ years. I am getting fitted for new driver this weekend and then I will be all set.
Do any of guys hit the simulator over the winter? I am hooked and will be spending a ton of time working on my game prior to my upcoming trip to Naples next month.
Getting the Stealth, hey?
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Doc,
I’m leaning that way.
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Check out Taylormade's website. You can see all the options in their build a club feature, hey?
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Doc,
I’m leaning that way.
Get fitted for a shaft. Find a Sim1 head and the same shaft, boom you just built a less ugly Stealth.
Also, beware of indoor swing syndrome. It’s a real thing.
tower, been thinking of heading down to Betti this winter for a fitting. Just need to commit.
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I am 100% in love with TM p790's, best investment I have made in golf equipment in 15+ years. I am getting fitted for new driver this weekend and then I will be all set.
Do any of guys hit the simulator over the winter? I am hooked and will be spending a ton of time working on my game prior to my upcoming trip to Naples next month.
I invested in a uneekor eyeXO simulator last spring. So yes, I hit the simulator... a lot. My wife would say too much. If anyone does splurge for a simulator, make sure to get the GSPro software. It is fantastic!
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Well done, Bo. That is the type of commitment I believe we all should have to our golf games.
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