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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Not A Serious Person on January 04, 2021, 10:54:12 AM
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NCAA men's basketball tournament to be played entirely in Indiana
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30650595/ncaa-men-basketball-tournament-played-entirely-indiana
Games will be played on two courts inside Lucas Oil Stadium as well as at Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Hinkle Fieldhouse, Indiana Farmers Coliseum, Mackey Arena at Purdue and Assembly Hall in Bloomington. Only one game at a time will be played at Lucas Oil Stadium.
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The only thing that worries me is the timeline which has no modifications. It seems like it would be better to move selection day up about ten days and require entry testing.
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The story says two courts in Lucas Oil but only one game at a time.
Then why the need for two courts?
Unless they are expecting fans (so they can fill one-side with fans while a game is being played on the other side). If this is correct, and they are expecting fans, then why bubble the Tourney?
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They aren't bubbling the Tourney. They used the phrase "bubble-like."
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The story says two courts in Lucas Oil but only one game at a time.
Then why the need for two courts?
Unless they are expecting fans (so they can fill one-side with fans while a game is being played on the other side). If this is correct, and they are expecting fans, then why bubble the Tourney?
Sanitize one court while a game is being played on the other court?
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Sanitize one court while a game is being played on the other court?
Makes sense ... thanks
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Different scale, different sport, but that's what they did at a HS wrestling dual I did on the radio last week. Two mats in gym, wrestled on one while cleaning the other and vice versa.
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Will there even be conference tournaments this year? Seems like it'd be way more trouble than it's worth. Easier just to give each conference champion an at-large bid.
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Will there even be conference tournaments this year? Seems like it'd be way more trouble than it's worth. Easier just to give each conference champion an at-large bid.
The BET is scheduled from March 10-13 so it looks like its a go.
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The BET is scheduled from March 10-13 so it looks like its a go.
Ah, thanks. Always glad to see more basketball, but will be interesting to see if they actually happen.
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Is this relevant to MU hoops? Not to be an ass but the NIT format is what I'd like know about.
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Is this relevant to MU hoops? Not to be an ass but the NIT format is what I'd like know about.
If Marquette goes 8-7 the rest of the way, I think they will make the tournament. I think that's doable.
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With all the iconic Indiana high school gyms around the Indianapolis area, they're shipping teams out to Bloomington? Lack of creativity is uninspiring. Could've had an inverse of Hoosiers. A bunch of college kids laughing at the idea of playing in a high school gym, and then the coach measures the dimensions and sees that...they're not the same.
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With all the iconic Indiana high school gyms around the Indianapolis area, they're shipping teams out to Bloomington? Lack of creativity is uninspiring. Could've had an inverse of Hoosiers. A bunch of college kids laughing at the idea of playing in a high school gym, and then the coach measures the dimensions and sees that...they're not the same.
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With all the iconic Indiana high school gyms around the Indianapolis area, they're shipping teams out to Bloomington? Lack of creativity is uninspiring. Could've had an inverse of Hoosiers. A bunch of college kids laughing at the idea of playing in a high school gym, and then the coach measures the dimensions and sees that...they're not the same.
How about the Indiana Farmers Coliseum? Home of the mighty IUPUI Jaguars, Indiana Fuel hockey team, and the Indiana State Fair.
Sounds about as iconic as a HS gym.
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How about the Indiana Farmers Coliseum? Home of the mighty IUPUI Jaguars, Indiana Fuel hockey team, and the Indiana State Fair.
Sounds about as iconic as a HS gym.
It’s at least a regulation court unlike high school gyms.
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With all the iconic Indiana high school gyms around the Indianapolis area, they're shipping teams out to Bloomington? Lack of creativity is uninspiring. Could've had an inverse of Hoosiers. A bunch of college kids laughing at the idea of playing in a high school gym, and then the coach measures the dimensions and sees that...they're not the same.
Two problems with your fantasy: court size and broadcasting capability.
If U Indy’s facility isn’t being used no HS gym is going to be used.
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Two problems with your fantasy: court size and broadcasting capability.
If U Indy’s facility isn’t being used no HS gym is going to be used.
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Two problems with your fantasy: court size and broadcasting capability.
If U Indy’s facility isn’t being used no HS gym is going to be used.
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Despite the fact that my own opinion is that the NCAA is an organization in which the upper echelon spends most of their time with their heads up their asses, I give them credit for trying to come up with a format that will allow themselves, the players, the fans, and the betting public to have a tournament. I hope they are successful.
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That’s what I get for thinking BM was actually serious about something
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That’s what I get for thinking BM was actually serious about something
BLM is probably a member of toastmasters.
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How about the Indiana Farmers Coliseum? Home of the mighty IUPUI Jaguars, Indiana Fuel hockey team, and the Indiana State Fair.
Sounds about as iconic as a HS gym.
I went to a corporate Super Bowl party that was hosted at the Indiana Farmers Coliseum. Steven Tyler and Carrie Underwood were the performers . I thought the venue was iconic in a retro sort of way.
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I went to a corporate Super Bowl party that was hosted at the Indiana Farmers Coliseum. Steven Tyler and Carrie Underwood were the performers . I thought the venue was iconic in a retro sort of way.
Only place in Indiana to ever host the Beatles
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Only place in Indiana to ever host the Beatles
Way before my time, but I think the Beatles played at the Mecca once.
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Way before my time, but I think the Beatles played at the Mecca once.
Before mine too, but they did, in 1964. They stayed at the Coach House Motor Inn? Hotel? Something like that. We know it better as Mashuda Hall.
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Despite the fact that my own opinion is that the NCAA is an organization in which the upper echelon spends most of their time with their heads up their asses, I give them credit for trying to come up with a format that will allow themselves, the players, the fans, and the betting public to have a tournament. I hope they are successful.
I mean, we will see. There is a reason they call it "bubble-like." It's not a true bubble. And they have done nothing to alter the timeline between Selection Sunday and the start of the First Four games.
But it does mitigate risk by cutting down on travel and centralizing testing. Not sure if that's going to be good enough.
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And they have done nothing to alter the timeline between Selection Sunday and the start of the First Four games.
The major problem with moving the dates would be CBS/Turner. If you move it one week out, you have the Final Four issues with the Masters.
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The major problem with moving the dates would be CBS/Turner. If you move it one week out, you have the Final Four issues with the Masters.
Push the Saturday tip times back a bit and there's no conflict. Nantz isn't a great PBP guy for hoops anyway.
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Push the Saturday tip times back a bit and there's no conflict. Nantz isn't a great PBP guy for hoops anyway.
Masters goes until 6pm or 6:30pm on Saturday. The networks like pre-game. You will not be doing a 7 & 9:20pm Final Four. Plus, Nantz is that great. Hello friends!
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The major problem with moving the dates would be CBS/Turner. If you move it one week out, you have the Final Four issues with the Masters.
I get that. But if everyone is on-site, they could easily compress the schedule.
March 14: Selection Sunday
March 16: Teams arrive
March 23: First Four (one week after arrival)
March 24-25: First Round
March 26-27: Second Round
March 28-29: Sweet 16
March 31- April 1: Elite 8
April 3: Semis
April 5: Finals
Obviously this takes out the first big weekend on television, but sticking to the same schedule when everyone is on-site and teams getting 4-7 days off between games doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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Way before my time, but I think the Beatles played at the Mecca once.
Sept of 1964.
they spent the night in what is now Mashuda Hall. Rumor was the block of rooms in the back on the 7th floor.
I believe Mashuda was a Coach Light Motor Inn at the time. Later became a Holiday Inn prior to being purchased by MU.
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Sept of 1964.
they spent the night in what is now Mashuda Hall. Rumor was the block of rooms in the back on the 7th floor.
I believe Mashuda was a Coach Light Motor Inn at the time. Later became a Holiday Inn prior to being purchased by MU.
Mashuda was a Howard Johnsons. West Hall was a Holiday Inn.
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Mashuda was a Howard Johnsons. West Hall was a Holiday Inn.
And it was the Milwaukee Arena. ;D
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Mashuda was a Howard Johnsons. West Hall was a Holiday Inn.
My dad was on a business trip to Milwaukee in the late 1970s and stayed at that Holiday Inn because it was cheap. When he was staying there, someone was shot and killed in the lobby and the Police woke everyone up to interview them.
The first time my mother heard this story was the day they dropped me off at MU in 1986 when he found out it was a residence hall. If you know both my mom and my dad, there was a good reason that story was not told earlier.
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https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1347594672663891968
"On Wednesday the NCAA quietly published its COVID-19 protocols for this year’s NCAAT. One line: "All Tier 1 travel party participants will be required to undergo and document seven consecutive negative COVID-19 tests prior to arrival into Indianapolis."
I'm not sure how you can have conference tournaments with that guideline.
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https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1347594672663891968
"On Wednesday the NCAA quietly published its COVID-19 protocols for this year’s NCAAT. One line: "All Tier 1 travel party participants will be required to undergo and document seven consecutive negative COVID-19 tests prior to arrival into Indianapolis."
I'm not sure how you can have conference tournaments with that guideline.
Yeah, that's the direction I figured it was going to go. It would probably be most prudent to just have each league's regular season champ get the auto bid. Not sure how that will impact Marquette's chances of getting selected.
On a related note, are conference tournaments really necessary? Don't get me wrong, they're a ton of fun and I'll take as much basketball as I can get that time of year, but outside of a few bid stealers in mid major conferences, they seem to have minimal impact on seeding. I like the fact that every team has a shot to make the tournament until they lose their very last game of the season, but how often does a crappy P6 team run the table and get a bid?
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On a related note, are conference tournaments really necessary? Don't get me wrong, they're a ton of fun and I'll take as much basketball as I can get that time of year, but outside of a few bid stealers in mid major conferences, they seem to have minimal impact on seeding. I like the fact that every team has a shot to make the tournament until they lose their very last game of the season, but how often does a crappy P6 team run the table and get a bid?
I mean are any games 'necessary'? I am pretty sure it's all for fun.
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Yeah, that's the direction I figured it was going to go. It would probably be most prudent to just have each league's regular season champ get the auto bid. Not sure how that will impact Marquette's chances of getting selected.
On a related note, are conference tournaments really necessary? Don't get me wrong, they're a ton of fun and I'll take as much basketball as I can get that time of year, but outside of a few bid stealers in mid major conferences, they seem to have minimal impact on seeding. I like the fact that every team has a shot to make the tournament until they lose their very last game of the season, but how often does a crappy P6 team run the table and get a bid?
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My dad was on a business trip to Milwaukee in the late 1970s and stayed at that Holiday Inn because it was cheap. When he was staying there, someone was shot and killed in the lobby and the Police woke everyone up to interview them.
The first time my mother heard this story was the day they dropped me off at MU in 1986 when he found out it was a residence hall. If you know both my mom and my dad, there was a good reason that story was not told earlier.
Anyone that went to MU in the 1980s remembers that it was a rough neighborhood, to say it politely. By the late 1980s, the BOT was considering/talking about the possibility of moving MU (never went further than talk).
Instead of leaving Milwaukee, Father DiUlio decided to double down with its campus circle project and was instrumental in cleaning up the neighborhood.
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I get that. But if everyone is on-site, they could easily compress the schedule.
March 14: Selection Sunday
March 16: Teams arrive
March 23: First Four (one week after arrival)
March 24-25: First Round
March 26-27: Second Round
March 28-29: Sweet 16
March 31- April 1: Elite 8
April 3: Semis
April 5: Finals
Obviously this takes out the first big weekend on television, but sticking to the same schedule when everyone is on-site and teams getting 4-7 days off between games doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
It would make sense to cancel all conference tournaments and have teams isolating on campus before selection Sunday. They could notify all the teams that they are in in advance for quarantine purposes, just not unveil the bracket until selection Sunday.
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Anyone that went to MU in the 1980s remembers that it was a rough neighborhood, to say it politely. By the late 1980s, the BOT was considering/talking about the possibility of moving MU (never went further than talk).
Instead of leaving Milwaukee, Father DiUlio decided to double down with its campus circle project and was instrumental in cleaning up the neighborhood.
Still think it would have been nice to close off Wisconsin. Route traffic around it.
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Some changes to traditional NCAA schedule.
https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/1351611286124113922?s=20
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First round will be friday-Monday instead of Thursday-Sunday.
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Some changes to traditional NCAA schedule.
https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/1351611286124113922?s=20
Makes a lot of sense to compress the schedule like that once they get the teams in the pseudo-bubble.
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First Four: Thu 3/18
First Round: Fri 3/19 and Sat 3/20
Second Round: Sun 3/21 and Mon 3/22
Sweet 16: Sat 3/27 and Sun 3/28
Elite 8: Mon 3/29 and Tue 3/30
National Semis: Sat 4/3
National Championship: Mon 4/5
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First Four: Thu 3/18
First Round: Fri 3/19 and Sat 3/20
Second Round: Sun 3/21 and Mon 3/22
Sweet 16: Sat 3/27 and Sun 3/28
Elite 8: Mon 3/29 and Tue 3/30
National Semis: Sat 4/3
National Championship: Mon 4/5
So they shortened the Tournament by 2 days. I wish they would've just cut the field to 64 and left the schedule alone. Second round games on a Monday sucks, Elite 8 games on Monday and Tuesday sucks.
But, let's just have a Tournament at this point.
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So they shortened the Tournament by 2 days. I wish they would've just cut the field to 64 and left the schedule alone. Second round games on a Monday sucks, Elite 8 games on Monday and Tuesday sucks.
But, let's just have a Tournament at this point.
Yeah I am glad to have a tourney at all but these are really pointless changes.
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Second round games on a Monday sucks, Elite 8 games on Monday and Tuesday sucks.
Eh, For second round you're just trading a Thur of no work to a Mon of no work. For E8, the 2 games per day can mostly be in the evening anyway, so no real work impact.
Yeah I am glad to have a tourney at all but these are really pointless changes.
But also this. Though I am appreciative that they're removing overlapping games from the S16.
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Eh, For second round you're just trading a Thur of no work to a Mon of no work. For E8, the 2 games per day can mostly be in the evening anyway, so no real work impact.
Looking forward to having no work on all of these days. We'll be bringing home a new baby less than a week before tourney time, so I'll be home on paternity leave and can watch almost every minute!
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Mashuda was a Howard Johnsons. West Hall was a Holiday Inn.
Mashuda was a Holiday Inn when the Beatles stayed in 1964, also known as the Coach House Motor Inn. The suite where they stayed was (when I lived there) the Hall Director's suite.
https://www.wisn.com/article/beatles-stayed-at-what-is-now-a-marquette-dorm-in-1964-1/6316527
Still think it would have been nice to close off Wisconsin. Route traffic around it.
Lost by one vote - the alderperson who represented MU cast the deciding vote.
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Looking forward to having no work on all of these days. We'll be bringing home a new baby less than a week before tourney time, so I'll be home on paternity leave and can watch almost every minute!
Ha! That's what you think! I assume no one has told you that two kids are more than double the work of one, especially when one of them is a newborn.
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Looking forward to having no work on all of these days. We'll be bringing home a new baby less than a week before tourney time, so I'll be home on paternity leave and can watch almost every minute!
Whoa - congrats, SaveOD!!
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I love that the Sweet 16 falls on a weekend and don't overlap on games.
Looks like vacation days on Friday and Monday. ;)
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Looking forward to having no work on all of these days. We'll be bringing home a new baby less than a week before tourney time, so I'll be home on paternity leave and can watch almost every minute!
For a second there I thought my wife was posting on Scoop... but then wondered why she'd be on paternity leave. Point being: same situation here! Couldn't have worked out better. Thank you baby UWW2MU!
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For a second there I thought my wife was posting on Scoop... but then wondered why she'd be on paternity leave. Point being: same situation here! Couldn't have worked out better. Thank you baby UWW2MU!
Nice for you guys! I had to use a vacation day for the day of my son's birth! He was born on a Wednesday so I took three vacation days before returning to work the following Monday.