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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 18, 2020, 11:26:29 AM
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Haven't combed all thread for discussion on Dexter, but it was mentioned last week that he was still deal with COVID symptoms. Any further update on when he'll be available? He wasn't participating in the scrimmage yesterday, and I have not spotted him in any of the practice videos the team twitter page has loaded over the last couple weeks.
Anyone know?
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Haven't combed all thread for discussion on Dexter, but it was mentioned last week that he was still deal with COVID symptoms. Any further update on when he'll be available? He wasn't participating in the scrimmage yesterday, and I have not spotted him in any of the practice videos the team twitter page has loaded over the last couple weeks.
Anyone know?
Per Ben Steele article re yesterday’s scrimmage, Dexter still has not been cleared, though he was at the scrimmage.
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Dexter’s Instagram story seems to hint at him being available tonight. Or at least soon.
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Great news. He was one of the players I was most interested in seeing before the season started for obvious reasons (the hype). If he is legit and with our other newcomers performing well, this season is going to be fun.
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Great news. He was one of the players I was most interested in seeing before the season started for obvious reasons (the hype). If he is legit and with our other newcomers performing well, this season is going to be fun.
Agreed, he was certainly excited to get the season started. And the summer videos were very encouraging. Hope he's healthy enough to go at full speed. Could make an already interesting team one of the "most interesting teams in the world" :)
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It may still take time to get up to 100%. Do not jump on Dexter, if he does not play well right away.
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It may still take time to get up to 100%. Do not jump on Dexter, if he does not play well right away.
Hope he gets cut if he goes without a triple double in his first start.
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It may still take time to get up to 100%. Do not jump on Dexter, if he does not play well right away.
Projo's always making excuses.
;D
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Wishing Dexter all the best. If he is available to give a few intense minutes on defense tonight it would be a big plus for the team.
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Dexter’s Instagram story seems to hint at him being available tonight. Or at least soon.
Can you post the story? If not, what did Dex say about tonight/very soon?
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Hope he gets cut if he goes without a triple double in his first start.
Start?!?
With all the hype we’ve heard, I expect a triple double even when he comes off the bench.
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For you old-timers....
Even Trevor Mbakwe would be afraid of Dexter.
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For you old-timers....
Even Trevor Mbakwe would be afraid of Dexter.
I heard that Dexter is the reason he transferred
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For you old-timers....
Even Trevor Mbakwe would be afraid of Dexter.
Trevor Mbakwe doesn't look in the mirror, the mirror looks at him.
But then shifts it's eyes because Dexter entered the room.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=5048.0
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Start?!?
With all the hype we’ve heard, I expect a triple double even when he comes off the bench.
"Cade who?"
- FS1 analysts, probably, after Dexter's debut tonight
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Can you post the story? If not, what did Dex say about tonight/very soon?
All seriousness, I'm Insta-ignorant, but I don't see any new posts for Dex - I'd be interested to hear. We're probably all getting excited over nothing.
edit: found it, pics attached, one from 22h, and the latest from 28m again..
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Sweet! Thanks......now I’m back to being super hyped again!
Is he just gonna drive the middle of the lane and dunk it on his first possession??!! He is, isn’t he?
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In fairly early.
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In fairly early.
He’s either ahead of those guys or putting him early just gets it out of the way.
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The talent was evident in his small sample - very smooth.
As was the rust.
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The talent was evident in his small sample - very smooth.
As was the rust.
The talent was evident? The guy had two turnovers and a foul in four minutes and looked bad doing it. Yes, I’m sure he’s rusty, but he was also the #400 recruit in the country and redshirted last season. He’s not Robert Johnson going down to the crossroads. I expect minimal contributions from him this season.
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Yeah, playing him in that stretch was a huge mistake.
It's just unreal what a terrible game coach Wojo is.
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Is the hype surrounding him based solely on the short pickup game clips posted to Paint Touches earlier this year? From what I saw in those videos, he took his man to the basket once and hit a couple outside shots where nobody picked him up. The NBA players he was going against didn’t give two chits about guarding anyone and just needed warm bodies to help them break a sweat in a meaningless workout they likely forgot about two seconds after it ended.
Dexter might turn out to be an okay player, but let’s ease down on the slurping.
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Is the hype surrounding him based solely on the short pickup game clips posted to Paint Touches earlier this year? From what I saw in those videos, he took his man to the basket once and hit a couple outside shots where nobody picked him up. The NBA players he was going against didn’t give two chits about guarding anyone and just needed warm bodies to help them break a sweat in a meaningless workout they likely forgot about two seconds after it ended.
Dexter might turn out to be an okay player, but let’s ease down on the slurping.
Numerous NBA players had good things to say about Dexter after both playing with him and working out with him.
But sure. I’ll listen to you after seeing him play a 3 minute segment coming off of covid 19 over NBA basketball players.
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Numerous NBA players had good things to say about Dexter after both playing with him and working out with him.
But sure. I’ll listen to you after seeing him play a 3 minute segment coming off of covid 19 over NBA basketball players.
Where did you see that numerous NBA players said good things about him? I’m honestly curious—all I could find about that scrimmage was the Paint Touches article.
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Where did you see that numerous NBA players said good things about him? I’m honestly curious—all I could find about that scrimmage was the Paint Touches article.
I think his trainer Tweeted about him fitting right in with the NBA guys he trains, and Dinwiddie replied with some nice things to say about him.
I don't expect Dexter to do anything against the Badgers. I'd hope Wojo gives him a lot of run against UWGB, because I think this team will need him to be a contributor if they're going to do anything at all this year.
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I think his trainer Tweeted about him fitting right in with the NBA guys he trains, and Dinwiddie replied with some nice things to say about him.
I don't expect Dexter to do anything against the Badgers. I'd hope Wojo gives him a lot of run against UWGB, because I think this team will need him to be a contributor if they're going to do anything at all this year.
Thanks. I agree with your analysis about Dexter vs UW and UWGB. We’ve had lower rated recruits contribute right away—Davante comes to mind—but I have low expectations for what he’ll do this year.
I don’t think we need him to be a major contributor for the team to make noise this year. We do, however, need Carton to be as good or better than advertised.
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Yeah, playing him in that stretch was a huge mistake.
It's just unreal what a terrible game coach Wojo is.
We were up 8 and playing very well when Wojo put Akanno in at the 13:57 mark. Aside from garbage time, it seemed like an OK time to put him in. And during his first 1:30, he did nothing wrong while our lead grew to 19-7.
It turned out to be an unfortunate confluence -- him getting his first PT the same time OSU changed its defense. He committed two soft turnovers, missed a 3 and committed a foul over the next 2:21, during which OSU scoring its first 8 points of what would end up being a 15-0 run that put OSU up 22-19.
One certainly could argue that Wojo should have taken Akanno out sooner than he did, but all the bad stuff happened in a very short span and Wojo would have had to call time-out to do it.
And we ended up finishing the half on a 12-4 run to take a 35-32 lead at the break, so it's hard to say that Akanno's appearance was the key to the game IMHO. Given what we saw in the 2H, everybody else had plenty of troubles, including Wojo, while Dex was planted on the bench.
I was quite critical of Wojo in a couple other threads, but of his transgressions, this was pretty minor IMHO.
As others (including you) have said, I hope we don't see Dex again until GB.
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I think his trainer Tweeted about him fitting right in with the NBA guys he trains, and Dinwiddie replied with some nice things to say about him.
I don't expect Dexter to do anything against the Badgers. I'd hope Wojo gives him a lot of run against UWGB, because I think this team will need him to be a contributor if they're going to do anything at all this year.
But isn't it all just a hype man selling hype? If your primary job is developing guards, wouldn't you try to sell that you're doing a great job so you get more people to sign up?
Always remember to follow the dollar signs, guys.
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We were up 8 and playing very well when Wojo put Akanno in at the 13:57 mark. Aside from garbage time, it seemed like an OK time to put him in. And during his first 1:30, he did nothing wrong while our lead grew to 19-7.
It turned out to be an unfortunate confluence -- him getting his first PT the same time OSU changed its defense. He committed two soft turnovers, missed a 3 and committed a foul over the next 2:21, during which OSU scoring its first 8 points of what would end up being a 15-0 run that put OSU up 22-19.
One certainly could argue that Wojo should have taken Akanno out sooner than he did, but all the bad stuff happened in a very short span and Wojo would have had to call time-out to do it.
And we ended up finishing the half on a 12-4 run to take a 35-32 lead at the break, so it's hard to say that Akanno's appearance was the key to the game IMHO. Given what we saw in the 2H, everybody else had plenty of troubles, including Wojo, while Dex was planted on the bench.
I was quite critical of Wojo in a couple other threads, but of his transgressions, this was pretty minor IMHO.
As others (including you) have said, I hope we don't see Dex again until GB.
Agree completely, except for the last point. I hope we see him in garbage time in our blowout win against UW.
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Agree completely, except for the last point. I hope we see him in garbage time in our blowout win against UW.
I like the cut of your jib!
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Iz Perez just takin' up space and tyme, hey?
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Iz Perez just takin' up space and tyme, hey?
I was wondering why they didn't bother giving him a look while everyone struggled like crazy yesterday. But I assume Wojo said "hey we didn't plan on having you this year any time you get is great but next year is your year to shine"
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It is a free year for Perez due to the NCAA rulings. And we didn't know when Dexter would be ready. Nothing lost by having him on the active roster.
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We were up 8 and playing very well when Wojo put Akanno in at the 13:57 mark. Aside from garbage time, it seemed like an OK time to put him in. And during his first 1:30, he did nothing wrong while our lead grew to 19-7.
It turned out to be an unfortunate confluence -- him getting his first PT the same time OSU changed its defense. He committed two soft turnovers, missed a 3 and committed a foul over the next 2:21, during which OSU scoring its first 8 points of what would end up being a 15-0 run that put OSU up 22-19.
One certainly could argue that Wojo should have taken Akanno out sooner than he did, but all the bad stuff happened in a very short span and Wojo would have had to call time-out to do it.
And we ended up finishing the half on a 12-4 run to take a 35-32 lead at the break, so it's hard to say that Akanno's appearance was the key to the game IMHO. Given what we saw in the 2H, everybody else had plenty of troubles, including Wojo, while Dex was planted on the bench.
I was quite critical of Wojo in a couple other threads, but of his transgressions, this was pretty minor IMHO.
As others (including you) have said, I hope we don't see Dex again until GB.
IDK, I'm not seeing these games live (Euro time zone) but it just seems like putting in a guy who hasn't played competitive basketball in (how many years?) during the first half of your first test of the season is a pretty terrible idea. What was the point? To build his confidence? To shake off the rust? If we're up by 15 with 4 minutes left, sure, give him so run. But there was plenty of game left, and it's not like the bench is short this year.
I'm not saying Dex was personally resonpsible for the swing, but the momentum certainly shifted decisively during his time on the court.
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He got Oso and Perez minutes in game 1, saying that he wasn't going to play 10 every game but wanted everybody to get the angst out. Pretty sure he just wanted to get Dexter's feet wet and saw an opportunity.
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I hope Dexter is able to overcome this bad start. You never know how something like this effects a player's confidence. We have to remember the team missed two weeks of practice and Dexter missed a lot more than two weeks.
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IDK, I'm not seeing these games live (Euro time zone) but it just seems like putting in a guy who hasn't played competitive basketball in (how many years?) during the first half of your first test of the season is a pretty terrible idea. What was the point? To build his confidence? To shake off the rust? If we're up by 15 with 4 minutes left, sure, give him so run. But there was plenty of game left, and it's not like the bench is short this year.
I'm not saying Dex was personally resonpsible for the swing, but the momentum certainly shifted decisively during his time on the court.
We will agree to disagree.
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I was wondering why they didn't bother giving him a look while everyone struggled like crazy yesterday. But I assume Wojo said "hey we didn't plan on having you this year any time you get is great but next year is your year to shine"
Well, than Woj is a total idiot. Perez is another in a long list of mid-major transfers, hey?
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Well, than Woj is a total idiot. Perez is another in a long list of mid-major transfers, hey?
I hope not.
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Well, than Woj is a total idiot. Perez is another in a long list of mid-major transfers, hey?
Agreed. He’s 22 years old and averaged 15ppg last year. He’s either ready to play this year, or he won’t ever be ready at Marquette.
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Write off a guy’s 3 year MU career 3 games into it because he didn’t play in a game where MU played poorly. That’s the spirit!
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C'mon man. Let's get real. This is turning out to be a total disaster, hey?
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C'mon man. Let's get real. This is turning out to be a total disaster, hey?
Recruiting Jose Perez is turning out to be a total disaster because he didn't play against Oklahoma State?
Okay, I guess.
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C'mon man. Let's get real. This is turning out to be a total disaster, hey?
I'm as down about the loss as anybody and seriously not in wojos came anymore but not sure I'd go to "total disaster" till seeing how WI and UCLA work out. We handled our experienced highly rated Cupcake, handled our extra cupcakey cupcake. Got handled by a team that's rated roughly the same as us. Let's see what/if any adjustments are made before we jump to "total disaster"
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I'm as down about the loss as anybody and seriously not in wojos came anymore but not sure I'd go to "total disaster" till seeing how WI and UCLA work out. We handled our experienced highly rated Cupcake, handled our extra cupcakey cupcake. Got handled by a team that's rated roughly the same as us. Let's see what/if any adjustments are made before we jump to "total disaster"
Can I get an Amen?
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Dexter played again in first half. He made a mistake trying to save a ball that appeared to be off Wisconsin.
I think he is going to be really good, once he stops making mental mistakes
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Yeah, playing him in that stretch was a huge mistake.
It's just unreal what a terrible game coach Wojo is.
This did not age well.
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My prediction is that we will be talking about Dexter a lot after the UW Green Bay game. I am expecting him to get enough time in this game so we can really see his talent.
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Dex has had his opportunities in the first five games and Wojo must have seen something in him. But, he has not stepped up at all. Tonight, with Symir out, he was quite the disaster again. He might have played five minutes and had no points, two turnovers and one foul. His only shot was an airball three that Lewis luckily got in his lap and scored. If he is going to get minutes, lets hope improvement is much sooner than later.
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I know he missed a lot of practice time, but Dexter did about as well as a random guy from the rec center would’ve tonight. That turnover where he picked up his dribble and then turned it over on a completely telegraphed pass was embarrassing, and then about 30 seconds later he completely air-balled a three. I don’t think we’ll see much of him vs Creighton.
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It's almost like he was the #400 ranked recruit in his class, who needed to redshirt as a freshman to get up to speed, and is still not ready for high-major D1 ball.
That's okay, it was always going to take time, but we were again effectively entranced by mixtapes.
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I know he missed a lot of practice time, but Dexter did about as well as a random guy from the rec center would’ve tonight. That turnover where he picked up his dribble and then turned it over on a completely telegraphed pass was embarrassing, and then about 30 seconds later he completely air-balled a three. I don’t think we’ll see much of him vs Creighton.
Not a good TO for sure by Dex on this play, but this is a major problem I have with this team.
First, guys pick up the dribble way to often. And many times when they do, their teammates stand and raise their arms and don't move at all to create a better passing lane.
So when Dex picked up his dribble, he looked to the post, then the wing, then the post, then the wing and finally forced to the post and it got stolen. During that time, the post guy or wing guy didn't move to help. I was screaming for someone to move.
So TO on Dex for sure, but no help from teammates
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It's almost like he was the #400 ranked recruit in his class, who needed to redshirt as a freshman to get up to speed, and is still not ready for high-major D1 ball.
That's okay, it was always going to take time, but we were again effectively entranced by mixtapes.
Solid take. He’s not close. Don’t understand how Jose Perez isn’t closer to game action and can’t get those minutes but that’s another story
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First, guys pick up the dribble way to often. And many times when they do, their teammates stand and raise their arms and don't move at all to create a better passing lane.
I hate how often I find myself yelling "come to him!" at the TV.
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Solid take. He’s not close. Don’t understand how Jose Perez isn’t closer to game action and can’t get those minutes but that’s another story
I forgot perez was even on the team. given the hideous shooting and scoring drought maybe throw the kid in?
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Niv Akanno
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I think the staff know that Dexter is better than what he's producing on the floor and that's why he keeps getting minutes. Covid knocked him on his a$$ and he's still recovering and getting used to playing with this team. I don't know how long we can afford to give him run hoping he's going to come alive.
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It's almost like he was the #400 ranked recruit in his class, who needed to redshirt as a freshman to get up to speed, and is still not ready for high-major D1 ball.
That's okay, it was always going to take time, but we were again effectively entranced by mixtapes.
+1 people bought the rumor but aren't selling the news.
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Don't forget the 'missed 4 weeks of practice due to catching COVID'.
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Dexter is going to help us this year. He needs to get his legs under him and make a positive play or two and then it will all start to come together. He is rusty and coming off an extended absence due to illness. Hopefully sooner than later because we need another slasher that can get to the basket.
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Feel like when he is in, he is always in a rush trying to make a big play or hero type play. Needs to let the game come to him a bit.
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Courtside, you aren't wrong. Look, he had a good summer of pick up games. He was probably still feeling it and was practicing well. And then he caught COVID and missed 4 weeks. He is young. He probably feels he has to be everything he showed in those videos from the summer. Right now, he doesn't have his legs, his wind, or his timing. It will take time, but he will contribute.
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Dexter is going to help us this year. He needs to get his legs under him and make a positive play or two and then it will all start to come together. He is rusty and coming off an extended absence due to illness. Hopefully sooner than later because we need another slasher that can get to the basket.
However, it's real hard to put him on the floor when he is such a net negative. Between Covid and the lack of buy games, I fear its going to be another lost season for him.
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MU really needs one of Greg, Dex, and Perez to emerge. Thought Greg gave good minutes last night. Wouldn’t mind seeing Perez get an opportunity as scoring was a struggle last night and he did average double figures at the D1 level last year. Akanno has a long way to go though and not expecting much from him the rest of the way, but hoping the coaching staff is able to keep morale high there.
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However, it's real hard to put him on the floor when he is such a net negative. Between Covid and the lack of buy games, I fear its going to be another lost season for him.
This is all true. Hope it happens for him.
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I am curious about his DNP last night. Performance related or out of an abundance of caution after what happened in Florida?
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I am curious about his DNP last night. Performance related or out of an abundance of caution after what happened in Florida?
It could be those speculative items. I would say my first instinct was that we didnt need him. GE was awesome and filling the role nicely. Goal was clearly to use our length and bigs in the 2H -- Dex hasnt played well and didn't fill a need in that plan.
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I am curious about his DNP last night. Performance related or out of an abundance of caution after what happened in Florida?
Considering how the rest of the guards were playing, whose minutes would he have taken? Certainly not DJ or Greg. And while Koby had some turnover issues, he also hit some big shots. I expect last night was the rotation we'll generally see. Torrence will probably play once healthy, but I'd guess Akanno, Oso, and Perez are going to get emergency use.
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I am curious about his DNP last night. Performance related or out of an abundance of caution after what happened in Florida?
It's been a rough go for Dexter. I'm sure the Covid set him back, but he's been absolutely terrible so far. 54.4 ORTG, 0.0 eFG, 0.0 assist rate, 45.9 TO rate, 29.2 usage.
At this point, I can't see how he gets minutes. Let him get back into the swing of things in practice first. Maybe he gets a little run later in the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if this year is a total loss for Dexter.
I still have hope for Dexter long term. After all, Sacar did nothing his first two years and he ended up a 3 year starter. Let's give Dexter time to keep developing.
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Dex can get some minutes Thurs when we're up on SH by 20 with 5 minutes to go!
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It's going to be a lost year for Dexter. I hope he sticks it out but he was always a project, and with catching Covid and few buy games, it was always going to be an uphill battle.
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Dex can get some minutes Thurs when we're up on SH by 20 with 5 minutes to go!
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It's been a rough go for Dexter. I'm sure the Covid set him back, but he's been absolutely terrible so far. 54.4 ORTG, 0.0 eFG, 0.0 assist rate, 45.9 TO rate, 29.2 usage.
At this point, I can't see how he gets minutes. Let him get back into the swing of things in practice first. Maybe he gets a little run later in the year, but I wouldn't be surprised if this year is a total loss for Dexter.
I still have hope for Dexter long term. After all, Sacar did nothing his first two years and he ended up a 3 year starter. Let's give Dexter time to keep developing.
Maybe Wojo did not want to risk Dexter turning the ball over against Creighton, but I also wondered if the Florida player collasping had Wojo worried about playing a player that had Covid.
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We knew wojo would tighten the rotation to 7-8 players once the BE started.
Looks like it will be 8 once Symir comes back as DJ will need a couple of breaks per game. I expect to see him get 6-8 minutes as the 8th guy.
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We knew wojo would tighten the rotation to 7-8 players once the BE started.
Looks like it will be 8 once Symir comes back as DJ will need a couple of breaks per game. I expect to see him get 6-8 minutes as the 8th guy.
Right. Not to be mean but, what has anyone seen out of Dexter to say "I would like to see more of him on the floor?" I know he was hyped up due to what was said about him over the summer, but that seems to happen every summer. He's the ninth guy on a 11 person team.
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Right. Not to be mean but, what has anyone seen out of Dexter to say "I would like to see more of him on the floor?" I know he was hyped up due to what was said about him over the summer, but that seems to happen every summer. He's the ninth guy on a 11 person team.
In the few minutes they’ve played, I would say Oso has shown more. Just my take.
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He just needs to keep practicing hard, and he needs to stay ready. When Oso's number was called against UCLA due to foul trouble, he gave us several very solid minutes. We no doubt will need that again from him, and we certainly could need that kind of thing from Dex, too.
If he's good enough, his time will come.
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Right. Not to be mean but, what has anyone seen out of Dexter to say "I would like to see more of him on the floor?" I know he was hyped up due to what was said about him over the summer, but that seems to happen every summer. He's the ninth guy on a 11 person team.
Exactly. But make no mistake. Dexter will get chances this year either because of injury/Covid or during a clunker by MU where a change of pace is needed.
But generally, he will only play when MU is up big.
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Maybe Wojo did not want to risk Dexter turning the ball over against Creighton, but I also wondered if the Florida player collasping had Wojo worried about playing a player that had Covid.
If that's the case, when, if ever, does he play? Sounds like Johnson had it months ago. Maybe it's a case of needing more thorough testing, but I'm not sure the best way to handle these cases going forward.
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If that's the case, when, if ever, does he play? Sounds like Johnson had it months ago. Maybe it's a case of needing more thorough testing, but I'm not sure the best way to handle these cases going forward.
How man players across all leagues are playing after having COVID? I know the local D2 team in my area has had nearly all of its players test positive at some point in time.
From a $$$ standpoint...an NBA team is waltzing out it's star player after having COVID if there are concerns, and I have not heard of any special tests being done on NBA players to certify them for action?
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How man players across all leagues are playing after having COVID? I know the local D2 team in my area has had nearly all of its players test positive at some point in time.
From a $$$ standpoint...an NBA team is waltzing out it's star player after having COVID if there are concerns, and I have not heard of any special tests being done on NBA players to certify them for action?
I would imagine additional testing would be cardiac enzymes or something similar. I don't believe it shows up on a typical ECG, but there are likely tests that can show if what's happening to guys like Johnson & Ojo is congenital or COVID related.
This feels like one of those things where it's too early to know much definitively, and the unfortunate consequence will likely be more similar incidents because while it's tragic, it's also rare enough that it probably won't shut down the sport.
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Not to sound cold here, but...
1. Hundreds, if not thousands, of high-level athletes around the word have had Covid, and have returned to action. How many have had similar issues?
2. College athletes who have suddenly collapsed from heart issues unfortunately isn't new. But sports have continued regardless
3. Even if Johnson did indeed have Covid, and even if he had heart issues that lead to his collapse, that doesn't mean that the former caused the latter. Proving that will never be likely.
If Marquette's trainers held Dexter out of the game out of an abundance of caution, that would have been fine. But I really doubt that was the reason.
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I hate how often I find myself yelling "come to him!" at the TV.
I find the standing around waiting for a pass extremely frustrating too but it was MUCH improved last night vs Creighton. Once we got a little mojo the guys were posting much harder and coming to the ball with intent.
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One of the reasons I worried about Dexter and Covid is that it seemed lie MU held him out of practice longer than was required. To me that indicates he had a more difficult case of it. Some people get really sick and some get barely sick.