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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: muwarrior69 on September 15, 2020, 05:14:29 AM
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I'll start with two:
Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak.
Cy Young with 511 career wins.
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Ners 891 dunks at the Rec Center in one game
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Cal Ripken consecutive games played.
Emmit Smith's all time rushing record.
30 wins in a season.
Wilt's 50.4 scoring average.
Nicklaus' 18 majors.
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Any pitching record that requires longevity and/or workhorse behavior.
In other words, while ERA, saves and those kinds of records theoretically could be broken, season and career records for innings pitched, wins, strikeouts, complete games, etc, are absolutely untouchable.
I doubt anybody will break DiMaggio's hitting streak, but I am 100% certain that no pitcher will come within a zillion miles of Cy Young's 511 wins.
And obviously, Ners' dunk records both at Helfaer and in high school are unbreakable. Duh.
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Fernando Tatis hit two Grand Slams off of the same pitcher (Chan Ho Park) in the same inning, of the same game.
Stan Musial had 3,630 hits. Exactly half were at home, 1815, and half were on the road, 1815.
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The 0-yard punt return TD on Sunday.
Brett Favre's 321 consecutive starts by a QB (including playoff games). Philip Rivers is the closest active QB...but he is nearly 100 games back, and he's 38 years old. Peyton and Eli Manning gave it a good shot, but each fell about 100 games short.
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Fernando Tatis hit two Grand Slams off of the same pitcher (Chan Ho Park) in the same inning, of the same game.
Stan Musial had 3,630 hits. Exactly half were at home, 1815, and half were on the road, 1815.
Ha! I love this.
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UConn women's undefeated streak
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Stan Musial had 3,630 hits. Exactly half were at home, 1815, and half were on the road, 1815.
This isn't that hard. I have the same number of major league hits both home and away.
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This isn't that hard. I have the same number of major league hits both home and away.
Same here. I also have the same number batting left and right-handed.
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Stan Musial had 3,630 hits. Exactly half were at home, 1815, and half were on the road, 1815.
While I appreciate the brevity of this particular post about St. Louis, that’s not a record.
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While I appreciate the brevity of this particular post about St. Louis, that’s not a record.
While I appreciate the psychological projection of your user name, it is a record. It may never be broken in the history of Major League Baseball until the end of time. It’s fun. 👍
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UCLA's 88-game winning streak.
UCLA's seven consecutive championships.
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Cal Ripken consecutive games played.
This is THE answer
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White Sox 4 consecutive complete games in the MLB postseason.
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Warrior Code's 800+ perfect posts*
*and counting
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Nm
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Marquette being undefeated in football for the past 60 years.
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Marquette being undefeated in football for the past 60 years.
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Cy Young with 511 career wins.
This is the one that always comes to my mind. That's 25 wins per year for 20 consecutive years (with a few extra thrown in for good measure). That's absolutely absurd. There has been one 25 game winner in the last 30 years (Bob Welch with 27 in 1990)...only two in the last 40 years. It's been nearly 50 years since there was a 25-game winner in the NL (Steve Carlton with 27 in 1972). You have to go back to 1946 to find the 20 most recent 25-win seasons. To break Young's record, a pitcher would have to do that every year for 20 years.
Yeah, Young's record is safe.
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This is the one that always comes to my mind. That's 25 wins per year for 20 consecutive years (with a few extra thrown in for good measure). That's absolutely absurd. There has been one 25 game winner in the last 30 years (Bob Welch with 27 in 1990)...only two in the last 40 years. It's been nearly 50 years since there was a 25-game winner in the NL (Steve Carlton with 27 in 1972). You have to go back to 1946 to find the 20 most recent 25-win seasons. To break Young's record, a pitcher would have to do that every year for 20 years.
Yeah, Young's record is safe.
I think that speaks to how obsolete the statistic is more than anything.
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How about hockey? Gretzky's 92 goals in a season, 51 point scoring streak, and 215 points in a season (he had 200 points in a season four times). In the 215 point season, if you took away all of his goals he still led the league in points that season on assists alone. His 163 assists in a season will also never be broken.
Gretzky's career scoring record is safe. He is the all-time leading scorer in NHL history by nearly 100 points on assists alone.
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I think that speaks to how obsolete the statistic is more than anything.
You'll get no argument from me on that point. But the point remains...it will never be broken.
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He is the all-time leading scorer in NHL history by nearly 100 points on assists alone.
Another of my favorite facts about unbreakable records. And this one has the benefit not not being the result of an obsolete statistic (as far as I know). It's a testament to how damn good Gretzky was.
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This is the one that always comes to my mind. That's 25 wins per year for 20 consecutive years (with a few extra thrown in for good measure). That's absolutely absurd. There has been one 25 game winner in the last 30 years (Bob Welch with 27 in 1990)...only two in the last 40 years. It's been nearly 50 years since there was a 25-game winner in the NL (Steve Carlton with 27 in 1972). You have to go back to 1946 to find the 20 most recent 25-win seasons. To break Young's record, a pitcher would have to do that every year for 20 years.
Yeah, Young's record is safe.
Similarly, Walter Johnson is the all-time leader in shutouts with 110.
The current active leader is Kershaw with 15
The current active leader under age 30 is Shelby Miller with 5 at age 29.
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I think that speaks to how obsolete the statistic is more than anything.
More indicative of how the game has changed than anything. The first team that I obsessed over was the 1975 Reds. 9 man pitching staff. 4 starters, 4 relievers, one swing man. It was big news that Sparky would use all of his relievers in one game. (Borbon, Carroll, Eastwick, McEnaney) (Gullett, Billingham, Norman, Nolan) And yes, I did those 8 pitchers from memory.
Will never see a 4 man rotation for an entire season again. 40 starts is the first step to winning 25 games.
Cy Young was just ridiculously gifted.
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Marquette being undefeated in football for the past 60 years.
You can say that again...
Marquette being undefeated in football for the past 60 years.
Thanks!
;)
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More indicative of how the game has changed than anything. The first team that I obsessed over was the 1975 Reds. 9 man pitching staff. 4 starters, 4 relievers, one swing man. It was big news that Sparky would use all of his relievers in one game. (Borbon, Carroll, Eastwick, McEnaney) (Gullett, Billingham, Norman, Nolan) And yes, I did those 8 pitchers from memory.
Will never see a 4 man rotation for an entire season again. 40 starts is the first step to winning 25 games.
Cy Young was just ridiculously gifted.
Well the game changing is what has made the stat obsolete. When you always had starters that went deep into games, it would roughly give you a sense of who the best pitcher was. It was never perfect, because your team had to score to win and that's out of the pitcher's control, but it at least gave you a somewhat decent apples to apples comparison. Now it doesn't really do that.
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Johnny VanderMeer's two consecutive no-hitters. To break it you'd have to throw three.
As stated before, Cy Young's 511 wins are pretty safe, as are his 315 losses. One caveat, the way specialization of pitching is going, if we ever get to the point where a guy is a fifth inning specialist, he may rack up 40 wins in a season, though I doubt we'll get to that point.
Also from baseball, a lesser known record unlikely to fall is Sam Crawford's 309 career triples, I think Ty Cobb is the last person to finish his career within 100 of that number. Players aren't all that interested in triples anymore, plus the better defense and arms in the outfield and the smaller parks, triples are much harder to come by.
In basketball, Wilt's 100 point game will be tough to top without the co-operation of the other team.
Any recent record, like UConn's women's winning streak, is more likely to be broken, in my opinion, then records that have already stood the test of time.
However, even though it is as recent as it could be, the Howard brothers combined career scoring record will be tough to beat for two brothers. You need two tremendous players who aren't really big time NBA prospects so they play four years.
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Ricky Henderson stolen base record. Nobody will ever come close to touching that.
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White Sox 4 consecutive complete games in the MLB postseason.
That's not a record. I just checked the first World Series in 1903 and the Boston Americans had 5 straight in that one. I'm sure there are others.
Deacon Phillippe's 5 complete games for the Pirates in one World Series will probably never be broken. Also from the 1903 Series.
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I forgot to mention Hank Aaron’s HR record. ;)
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chamberlins 100
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chamberlins 100
Chamberlain's 20k, eh? ;)
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Eric Heiden’s sweep of the individual speedskating gold medals at the 1980 Olympics. No relays, and every distance from sprint to long-distance. In a gold suit, no less
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As stated before, Cy Young's 511 wins are pretty safe, as are his 315 losses. One caveat, the way specialization of pitching is going, if we ever get to the point where a guy is a fifth inning specialist, he may rack up 40 wins in a season, though I doubt we'll get to that point.
And to think he'll only have to do that for 12+ seasons to overtake Young. ;)
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Cal Ripken consecutive games played.
Emmit Smith's all time rushing record.
30 wins in a season.
Wilt's 50.4 scoring average.
Nicklaus' 18 majors.
Yogi Berra played in 75 World Series games and the only player to have 14 WS rings.
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Any of Gretzky’s records. The gulf between him and others for career points is hilarious. Nobody is touching 92 goals in a season. There are a half dozen of his records that are laughably out of reach
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How about hockey? Gretzky's 92 goals in a season, 51 point scoring streak, and 215 points in a season (he had 200 points in a season four times). In the 215 point season, if you took away all of his goals he still led the league in points that season on assists alone. His 163 assists in a season will also never be broken.
Gretzky's career scoring record is safe. He is the all-time leading scorer in NHL history by nearly 100 points on assists alone.
Lemieux had 85 goals, 114 assists and 199 points in a season, which makes me believe that Gretzky’s single season records are very, very unlikely to get broken ... but not impossible to break the way all of those pitching records are.
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Will Ted Williams 406 batting average in 1941 be broken? Tony Gwynn hit 394 back in the 90s, so reachable.
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Lemieux had 85 goals, 114 assists and 199 points in a season, which makes me believe that Gretzky’s single season records are very, very unlikely to get broken ... but not impossible to break the way all of those pitching records are.
How sports have changed over the decades.
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Phelps gold medals and total medals.
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Bob Gibson’s 1.12 ERA in 300+ innings pitched.
Gibson was incredible and virtually unhittable in 1968. I doubt anyone will ever have a qualifying ERA as low as Gibson’s and no one will ever do it in 300 innings or more.
I agree with Cal Ripkin’s record. As well as Brett Favre’s consécutive start record.
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Here are some other ones I don’t think ever get beaten just based on the way certain sports have changed over time.
Nobody will beat Emmitt Smith’s rushing yards record. Too many running back tandems and spread, passing offenses.
Kareem’s 15,836 career high in 2pt field goals. I can see someone breaking his scoring record, but with an emphasis on the three point line, that one should be safe.
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While I appreciate the brevity of this particular post about St. Louis, that’s not a record.
This. It's just trivia.
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I have to come in with a Whitw Sox one. I wonder how many people could name the all time ERA leader without checking?
Well, it isn't Cy Young, Walter Johnson or Christy Mathewson. It is White Sox great Ed Walsh, with a 1.82 ERA in about 3k innings.
Can't see anyone reaching that, with DHs and loaded balls, and just in general.
Kershaw has had 2 seasons beneath that number. Maddux did it twice, Pedro did it once.
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Phelps gold medals and total medals.
I feel like those records are attainable because they can always add more events that allow athletes to get more opportunities. Obviously someone will need a lot of longevity to match Phelps, but I don't think it's impossible that we'll see it in the next 30-40 years.
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That's not a record. I just checked the first World Series in 1903 and the Boston Americans had 5 straight in that one. I'm sure there are others.
Deacon Phillippe's 5 complete games for the Pirates in one World Series will probably never be broken. Also from the 1903 Series.
Sure, to my point, 4 or 5, with pitch counts, specialized bullpens, will never happen again.
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In 1961-62, Oscar Robertson averaged a triple double. He missed out on doing it 4 other times by less than an assist or rebound.
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Stan Musial had 3,630 hits. Exactly half were at home, 1815, and half were on the road, 1815.
That’s not a record. It’s a coincidence.
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In 1961-62, Oscar Robertson averaged a triple double. He missed out on doing it 4 other times by less than an assist or rebound.
Russell Westbrook has since averaged a triple double for an entire season. Twice, I believe. Check that, I looked at the numbers. 3 times.
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A lot of these are fun things to reminisce about, but they aren't "records."
Ted Williams' .406 was a great achievement, but it's not a record. Heck, he wasn't even the MVP that season!
Oscar Robertson's triple-doubles -- as buck pointed out, not a record.
Stan the Man's home/road hit breakdown -- as Lenny pointed out, not a record.
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What is the record for career drop kicks made in the NFL? Whatever it is, that one will stand forever unless they change the rules to make it worth 5 points.
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A lot of these are fun things to reminisce about, but they aren't "records."
Ted Williams' .406 was a great achievement, but it's not a record. Heck, he wasn't even the MVP that season!
Oscar Robertson's triple-doubles -- as buck pointed out, not a record.
Stan the Man's home/road hit breakdown -- as Lenny pointed out, not a record.
Gretzky scoring 92 goals in a season is a record but batting .406 in a season is an achievement. Explain the difference.
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Any of Gretzky’s records. The gulf between him and others for career points is hilarious. Nobody is touching 92 goals in a season. There are a half dozen of his records that are laughably out of reach
I broke all of Gretzky's records in NHL 16 so it can be done ;D
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Gretzky scoring 92 goals in a season is a record but batting .406 in a season is an achievement. Explain the difference.
Nobody in NHL history has ever gotten more than 92 goals in a season. That’s a record.
Sixteen other players in MLB history (beginning with Hugh Duffy’s .4397 in 1894) have had higher batting averages than Ted Williams‘ .406. That makes Ted Williams’ average a great achievement, but not a record.
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Nobody in NHL history has ever gotten more than 92 goals in a season. That’s a record.
Sixteen other players in MLB history (beginning with Hugh Duffy’s .4397 in 1894) have had higher batting averages than Ted Williams‘ .406. That makes Ted Williams’ average a great achievement, but not a record.
Well if you want go back further than 1903 I'll concede that, but then that makes Hugh Duffy's .440 average if it is the highest average in a single season the record and not an achievement and thanks for the correction.
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chamberlins 100
TIL that he had 55 rebounds in a game, that seems equally unbreakable. Bill Russel came close 3 times but nobody has hit 40 since '74.
Though Ben Steele thinks Justin Lewis will have a shot at it in college
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Well if you want go back further than 1903 I'll concede that, but then that makes Hugh Duffy's .440 average if it is the highest average in a single season the record and not an achievement and thanks for the correction.
You don't need to go pre-1903 to find higher averages than Williams' .406. Rogers Hornsby batted .424 in 1924, and Ty Cobb and George Sisler each beat .406 twice.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml