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Title: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: shoothoops on May 22, 2020, 05:37:01 PM
I just saw this listed.

ESPNU is apparently re-airing MU at Louisville from 2003 tonight for anyone interested. MU comes back from 19 points down to win 78-73.

Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: wadesworld on May 22, 2020, 05:49:06 PM
Sweet, thanks!
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: MauraDay on May 22, 2020, 07:48:59 PM
Awesome! Thank you for the heads up!
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: wadesworld on May 22, 2020, 07:51:28 PM
1) My God Dicky V is annoying.

2) I freaking love Diener. Tough as nails.

3) They showed a graphic of Novak’s last 4 games from 3 point range being at like 62% to his first 20 games. You’d think that his percentage would’ve been terrible...it was 43%. But he does get banged around defensively.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 22, 2020, 08:31:25 PM
The way things are currently going this game will soon be closer to our past ncaa tournament win then the present...
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: wadesworld on May 22, 2020, 08:42:03 PM
The way things are currently going this game will soon be closer to our past ncaa tournament win then the present...

We get it.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 22, 2020, 08:44:07 PM
We get it.

Remember when you announced wojo would bring us to Duke levels. I guess you never thought we would become a joke.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: wadesworld on May 22, 2020, 08:45:10 PM
Remember when you announced wojo would bring us to Duke levels. I guess you never thought we would become a joke.

We’re a joke?
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 22, 2020, 08:54:09 PM
We’re a joke?


I'd say so. You disagree?
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: Newsdreams on May 24, 2020, 01:32:20 PM

I'd say so. You disagree?
#FakeNews Free JB
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: Golden Avalanche on May 24, 2020, 03:39:54 PM
Remember when you announced wojo would bring us to Duke levels. I guess you never thought we would become a joke.

No sane individual in America who follows college basketball considers the Marquette program to be a joke. 
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: panda on May 24, 2020, 03:42:45 PM
No sane individual in America who follows college basketball considers the Marquette program to be a joke.

Joke? Absolutely not.

After thought is a more apt description.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: wadesworld on May 24, 2020, 03:56:58 PM
Outside of maybe Big East fans I don’t think Marquette is viewed any differently around the country than they have been for the last 20 years. Yes, we were better under Buzz and had Wade for Crean, but I don’t think anyone looked at us as approaching blue blood status at any point since Al was here.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: tower912 on May 24, 2020, 04:02:58 PM
Closest.  MU is not a blue blood.   Not a joke, either.   For the last 40 years, MU is better than 90% of the programs.   Fairly standard high major.  Mostly good years.   A few peaks, a few valleys.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 24, 2020, 04:35:10 PM
Outside of maybe Big East fans I don’t think Marquette is viewed any differently around the country than they have been for the last 20 years. Yes, we were better under Buzz and had Wade for Crean, but I don’t think anyone looked at us as approaching blue blood status at any point since Al was here.

We were FAR better under Buzz and Crean. No one here is talking about blue blood status (minus you in 2015 ironically) We haven't had a tournament win since 2013. We have finished 500 or above in conference twice in the last 6 years. We finished below 500 in conference twice in the previous 20.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: wadesworld on May 24, 2020, 04:38:01 PM
We were FAR better under Buzz and Crean. No one here is talking about blue blood status (minus you in 2015 ironically) We haven't had a tournament win since 2013. We have finished 500 or above in conference twice in the last 6 years. We finished below 500 in conference twice in the previous 20.

Ironically I don’t recall ever claiming MU was a blue blood. Never have been in my lifetime, don’t expect them ever to be.

I’ll repeat, I don’t think the national viewpoint of MU basketball is any different now than it has been at any point over the past 2 decades. We know you like crying about Wojo, that’s cool. But that doesn’t change the fact that MU is neither a “joke” or an “afterthought.”
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 24, 2020, 05:12:37 PM
Closest.  MU is not a blue blood.   Not a joke, either.   For the last 40 years, MU is better than 90% of the programs.   Fairly standard high major.  Mostly good years.   A few peaks, a few valleys.

Yep. We have not been a blue blood since Al left, but the Dukiet era was the only time our program really looked bad. Even then, we were probably right around the middle of the pack of D1 schools. More of an afterthought than a joke...for a couple of years in the late 1980s.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 24, 2020, 05:46:36 PM
Ironically I don’t recall ever claiming MU was a blue blood. Never have been in my lifetime, don’t expect them ever to be.

I’ll repeat, I don’t think the national viewpoint of MU basketball is any different now than it has been at any point over the past 2 decades. We know you like crying about Wojo, that’s cool. But that doesn’t change the fact that MU is neither a “joke” or an “afterthought.”

Paraphrasing - "wojo will take us to duke levels"

I'll ask again. Do you think Marquette is a joke of a program? Not what uninformed people comparing towards the entire d1. You yourself against other high major programs, against what Marquette had accomplished from 1995 to 2015. Do you think Marquette is a joke? Because I certainly do.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: wadesworld on May 24, 2020, 05:55:01 PM
Paraphrasing - "wojo will take us to duke levels"

I'll ask again. Do you think Marquette is a joke of a program? Not what uninformed people comparing towards the entire d1. You yourself against other high major programs, against what Marquette had accomplished from 1995 to 2015. Do you think Marquette is a joke? Because I certainly do.

Please find that post. I’d like to see it.

Is Marquette a joke? Uhh, no? Lol. Is that question a joke?
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: tower912 on May 24, 2020, 06:22:28 PM
Paraphrasing - "wojo will take us to duke levels"

I'll ask again. Do you think Marquette is a joke of a program? Not what uninformed people comparing towards the entire d1. You yourself against other high major programs, against what Marquette had accomplished from 1995 to 2015. Do you think Marquette is a joke? Because I certainly do.
How can you call any competitive program in a P6 conference a joke?   For fits and giggles, name the other P6 programs you consider jokes.   Then compare.MU to them.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 24, 2020, 06:34:59 PM
How can you call any competitive program in a P6 conference a joke?   For fits and giggles, name the other P6 programs you consider jokes.   Then compare.MU to them.

For all the people getting hung on on the term "joke".

Is Marquette as bad as depaul, no. DePaul is an absolute joke of a program.

Marquette is a joke of a program compared to 8 years ago. Marquette is a joke of a program compared to what their trajectory was 6 years ago.

I guess I should have been a bit more obvious to what I'm saying. Since this was scoop y'all went and ran with a word.

So I'll say this one last time.

Marquette is a unnatural carnal knowledgeing joke. 8 years ago they were dominate. Were they NCAA champ calibre? Not really.  But did they have a shot every year? Yes.

Be honest, did anyone here think that teams like seton hall, providence, and Creighton would be better teams then Marquette 7 years ago? Because seton hall and providence barely were a scare on the schedule.

If any of you are happy where this program currently is, rebuild year 7. Then damn y'all got some low expectations for a team that won the big east.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: MU82 on May 24, 2020, 06:37:24 PM
MU is an absolute joke!!!!!!

MU has a losing record every year, has never made the NCAA tournament and never will, has never finished above 8th in the conference, and our coaches have neither signed nor developed a single player that any other program would ever want.

A total joke!!!!

Like all others who think the program is a joke, I am never going to watch another game involving the team. I mean, why would anybody want to be associated with a joke of a program?

#jokemarquettewillneverwin

Oh, and Markus was a cancer, too.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: wadesworld on May 24, 2020, 06:40:10 PM
For all the people getting hung on on the term "joke".

Is Marquette as bad as depaul, no. DePaul is an absolute joke of a program.

Marquette is a joke of a program compared to 8 years ago. Marquette is a joke of a program compared to what their trajectory was 6 years ago.

I guess I should have been a bit more obvious to what I'm saying. Since this was scoop y'all went and ran with a word.

So I'll say this one last time.

Marquette is a unnatural carnal knowledgeing joke. 8 years ago they were dominate. Were they NCAA champ calibre? Not really.  But did they have a shot every year? Yes.

Be honest, did anyone here think that teams like seton hall, providence, and Creighton would be better teams then Marquette 7 years ago? Because seton hall and providence barely were a scare on the schedule.

If any of you are happy where this program currently is, rebuild year 7. Then damn y'all got some low expectations for a team that won the big east.

Lol. So you meant something different than what you said but it’s everyone else’s fault for not interpreting it how you meant it instead of interpreting it, well, as you said it.

Well, in that case, my bad! MU is a joke of a program!

 :o  ::)

MU was not a “dominate” (dominant) program under Buzz nor did they “have a chance” to win a national title “every year.” 0 Final Fours, a single conference title (3 way split) = “dominant?”

Let me guess. I’m getting “hung up on a word.”

Talk about a joke.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: panda on May 24, 2020, 06:40:40 PM
For all the people getting hung on on the term "joke".

Is Marquette as bad as depaul, no. DePaul is an absolute joke of a program.

Marquette is a joke of a program compared to 8 years ago. Marquette is a joke of a program compared to what their trajectory was 6 years ago.

I guess I should have been a bit more obvious to what I'm saying. Since this was scoop y'all went and ran with a word.

So I'll say this one last time.

Marquette is a unnatural carnal knowledgeing joke. 8 years ago they were dominate. Were they NCAA champ calibre? Not really.  But did they have a shot every year? Yes.

Be honest, did anyone here think that teams like seton hall, providence, and Creighton would be better teams then Marquette 7 years ago? Because seton hall and providence barely were a scare on the schedule.

If any of you are happy where this program currently is, rebuild year 7. Then damn y'all got some low expectations for a team that won the big east.

Joke? Absolutely not. Poor choice of words. Anywhere near where the level they were at during Crean and Buzz? Not even close.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 24, 2020, 06:40:47 PM
MU is an absolute joke!!!!!!

MU has a losing record every year, has never made the NCAA tournament and never will, has never finished above 8th in the conference, and our coaches have neither signed nor developed a single player that any other program would ever want.

A total joke!!!!

Like all others who think the program is a joke, I am never going to watch another game involving the team. I mean, why would anybody want to be associated with a joke of a program?

#jokemarquettewillneverwin

Oh, and Markus was a cancer, too.

We have had a losing record in conference 4 of the last 6 seasons.  ::)

If you really think Marquette is on a good tracetory then provide your argument. I'm not going to engage in the immaturity you display on each thread.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 24, 2020, 06:43:08 PM
Lol. So you meant something different than what you said but it’s everyone else’s fault for not interpreting it how you meant it instead of interpreting it, well, as you said it.

Well, in that case, my bad! MU is a joke of a program!

 :o  ::)

Right, Marquette is far and above what you promised us, duke level. I must have forgotten that we surpassed them.


Edit: I've since blocked Wadesworld. I forgot that he was the same kid who whined about Jake Arrieta so much people had memes for beating a dead horse anytime he posted.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: MU82 on May 24, 2020, 06:59:19 PM
We have had a losing record in conference 4 of the last 6 seasons.  ::)

If you really think Marquette is on a good tracetory then provide your argument. I'm not going to engage in the immaturity you display on each thread.

Seriously ...

You are a consumer. If you really like a product but things happen and that product becomes a "joke" and a "loser," do you continue to consume that product or do you continue to visit that restaurant or do you continue to watch that director's movies?

I honestly don't know why anybody who thinks the situation is as hopeless as you obviously do would keep consuming the product.

As for immaturity, you are the one who continues to pursue the "joke" narrative. It's as useful, accurate and mature as the "Markus is a cancer" argument.

If you think it's a joke, bid it an un-fond adieu and move on.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 24, 2020, 07:11:12 PM
For all the people getting hung on on the term "joke".

Is Marquette as bad as depaul, no. DePaul is an absolute joke of a program.

Marquette is a joke of a program compared to 8 years ago. Marquette is a joke of a program compared to what their trajectory was 6 years ago.

I guess I should have been a bit more obvious to what I'm saying. Since this was scoop y'all went and ran with a word.

So I'll say this one last time.

Marquette is a unnatural carnal knowledgeing joke. 8 years ago they were dominate. Were they NCAA champ calibre? Not really.  But did they have a shot every year? Yes.

Be honest, did anyone here think that teams like seton hall, providence, and Creighton would be better teams then Marquette 7 years ago? Because seton hall and providence barely were a scare on the schedule.

If any of you are happy where this program currently is, rebuild year 7. Then damn y'all got some low expectations for a team that won the big east.

Michigan was a joke of a program when they went 11 years between NCAA tournaments and got themselves on probation.

Northwestern, Penn State and Rutgers are “jokes” of a program even after two would have gone to the tourney this past season.

Oregon State is a joke of a program (1 tourney since 1990).

Washington State is a joke with 3 tourney appearances since 1983, none since 2008, and drawing 4K a game.

We all know that DePaul is a joke of a program.

Wake Forest has nearly become a joke of a program. One tourney appearance  since 2010 (first four).

MU with 3* in the past four years 7* since 2010, and multiple weeks in the top 25, not a “joke.”
* meaning we would have made it this past season.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: panda on May 24, 2020, 07:15:17 PM
and multiple weeks in the top 25, not a “joke.”


Hang a banner!
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: MU82 on May 24, 2020, 07:49:36 PM
How 'bout that Marquette comeback at Louisville!

It was "fun" watching it in Lo-D. My son was like, "That was really how you watched everything back then?"
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: tower912 on May 24, 2020, 08:12:53 PM
Not the return to greatness hoped for.   Not a joke.   
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: #UnleashSean on May 24, 2020, 08:15:35 PM

* meaning we would have made it this past season.

Marquette was on the bubble this year. Had they lost in the BET in the first round plenty of people were talking about MU being left out. A lot of people forget just how poorly marquette was playing at the end.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: Small Orange Soda on May 24, 2020, 09:25:48 PM
MU is an absolute joke!!!!!!

MU has a losing record every year, has never made the NCAA tournament and never will, has never finished above 8th in the conference, and our coaches have neither signed nor developed a single player that any other program would ever want.

A total joke!!!!

Like all others who think the program is a joke, I am never going to watch another game involving the team. I mean, why would anybody want to be associated with a joke of a program?

#jokemarquettewillneverwin

Oh, and Markus was a cancer, too.

Step one:  Establish hyperbole.

Step two: Destroy that hyperbole.

Step three: Ignore results.  Point out hyperbole is wrong, again.   
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: wadesworld on May 24, 2020, 09:41:04 PM
Marquette was on the bubble this year. Had they lost in the BET in the first round plenty of people were talking about MU being left out. A lot of people forget just how poorly marquette was playing at the end.

Since we want to go with bracketology projections to prove Marquette was worse in 2019-2020 than they were in 2018-2019, Marquette was in 97 out of 97 (100%) of the brackets on Bracket Matrix.  Marquette was as much on the "bubble" as they are a "joke."

Or do you not really mean "bubble" and we should just know you didn't really mean that word?
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: brewcity77 on May 24, 2020, 09:54:55 PM
Marquette was on the bubble this year. Had they lost in the BET in the first round plenty of people were talking about MU being left out. A lot of people forget just how poorly marquette was playing at the end.

This is patently untrue. Marquette was a lock as soon as they beat Georgetown. They were not on the bubble, they were not being talked about being left out or close to left out. There were 97 brackets filed on March 12 at Bracket Matrix (http://bracketmatrix.com/) and all 97 had Marquette in the field. The majority (82.5%) had them as a single digit seed. You can not like Wojo, you can be disappointed with the results, you can say they were playing bad at the end of the season, all of that is valid, but they were absolutely, unquestionably a NCAA Tournament team.

Also...it is patently untrue that people forget how poorly Marquette was playing at the end. We all know how they were playing at the end because we all watched it. It freaking sucked. But that doesn't change that they were not on the bubble and never in danger of being left out.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on May 24, 2020, 11:08:41 PM
How 'bout that Marquette comeback at Louisville!

It was "fun" watching it in Lo-D. My son was like, "That was really how you watched everything back then?"

Some of us appreciate the effort to re-rail this thread.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ba/e3/bf/bae3bfadcbe7f1fd771c9e00ee1aae9d.gif)
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: Newsdreams on May 25, 2020, 01:02:50 AM
Some of us appreciate the effort to re-rail this thread.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ba/e3/bf/bae3bfadcbe7f1fd771c9e00ee1aae9d.gif)
I think it was a joke
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 26, 2020, 09:39:50 AM
How 'bout that Marquette comeback at Louisville!

It was "fun" watching it in Lo-D. My son was like, "That was really how you watched everything back then?"


The first time I watched the 1977 championship game with my daughter, she kept asking me to “fix“ the picture.
Title: Re: 2003 MU at Louisville on ESPNU tonight 8:30pm Eastern
Post by: willie warrior on May 26, 2020, 12:25:39 PM
We have had a losing record in conference 4 of the last 6 seasons.  ::)

If you really think Marquette is on a good tracetory then provide your argument. I'm not going to engage in the immaturity you display on each thread.
But wait. What happened to the mantra here that Wojo has the program on an upward trajectory? Haven't heard that at all lately
Somebody needs to jump start that mantra, at least so we can respond with the fold down the stretch last 2 years is not evidence of an upward trajectory!