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Title: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on May 06, 2020, 06:48:55 PM
Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48 in his updated Preseason Top 50
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on May 06, 2020, 07:05:41 PM
Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48 in his updated Preseason Top 50

Well plenty of room to sneak up on everyone. 
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: WarriorFan on May 06, 2020, 08:06:19 PM
If (as per the Athletic), #5 in the BEAST is #48 then the BEAST is going to be pretty weak this year. 
I figure (as per the Athletic) that 3-9 in the BEAST are a toss-up and that #48 seems about right barring Carton being able to play and/or a serious grad transfer which means 7-9 in the BEAST is more likely.  #5 in a strong Big East should be in or close to the top 25.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on May 06, 2020, 08:41:31 PM
Last Year The Big East was Strong

Average NET ranking
*according to NCAA
Big East
2019-20: 38.1
2018-19: 64.5
Big Ten
2019-20: 51.4
2018-19: 47.4
Pac-12
2019-20: 60.6
2018-19: 101.4
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on May 07, 2020, 07:40:58 AM
Top 50 ain't a birthright, aina.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 07, 2020, 07:46:49 AM
Top 50 ain't a birthright, aina.

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Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: swoopem on May 07, 2020, 08:44:49 AM
Top 50 ain't a birthright, aina.

Being top 50 is hard. These rankings don’t grow on trees
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on May 07, 2020, 09:48:30 AM
May i plz add, wtf does Goodman know?
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: muwarrior69 on May 07, 2020, 10:03:16 AM
Being top 50 is hard. These rankings don’t grow on trees

....and that is on paper.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 07, 2020, 10:08:08 AM
May i plz add, wtf does Goodman know?

He knows we'll be top 50 duh
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: bilsu on May 07, 2020, 10:08:42 AM
If (as per the Athletic), #5 in the BEAST is #48 then the BEAST is going to be pretty weak this year. 
I figure (as per the Athletic) that 3-9 in the BEAST are a toss-up and that #48 seems about right barring Carton being able to play and/or a serious grad transfer which means 7-9 in the BEAST is more likely.  #5 in a strong Big East should be in or close to the top 25.
Not necessarily. The Big East was strong last year, because the bottom teams were not bad teams.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Viper on May 07, 2020, 10:59:10 AM
MU is a bit of an unknown right now. How good will the incoming recruits be? Will Carton be eligible? Theo, Koby and Greg Elliott’s health? Any additional transfers coming in? Some change within the coaches. Hence, 40-50 is probably about right at this point, IMO.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on May 07, 2020, 11:22:24 AM
MU is a bit of an unknown right now. How good will the incoming recruits be? Will Carton be eligible? Theo, Koby and Greg Elliott’s health? Any additional transfers coming in? Some change within the coaches. Hence, 40-50 is probably about right at this point, IMO.


Agree and we will know on another transfer today. Iowa State Board is Saying they are probably out and Illinois board is saying Marquette. “We will see” as our fellow Schroeder Hall floormate Rob Kwapil who died used to say.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Newsdreams on May 07, 2020, 11:34:23 AM


Agree and we will know on another transfer today. Iowa State Board is Saying they are probably out and Illinois board is saying Marquette. “We will see” as our fellow Schroeder Hall floormate Rob Kwapil who died used to say.
He needs to seat a year....
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Tha Hound on May 07, 2020, 12:15:36 PM
Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48 in his updated Preseason Top 50

Is this with Carton or without?
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 07, 2020, 12:58:25 PM
Is this with Carton or without?

Without. Article is here: https://watchstadium.com/jeff-goodmans-preseason-top-50-for-2020-21-04-23-2020/.

48 without Carton seems optimistic to me. Not overly optimistic but optimistic.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 07, 2020, 01:34:19 PM
Without. Article is here: https://watchstadium.com/jeff-goodmans-preseason-top-50-for-2020-21-04-23-2020/.

48 without Carton seems optimistic to me. Not overly optimistic but optimistic.

I'd say its overly optimistic.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: WhiteTrash on May 07, 2020, 02:13:54 PM
Without. Article is here: https://watchstadium.com/jeff-goodmans-preseason-top-50-for-2020-21-04-23-2020/.

48 without Carton seems optimistic to me. Not overly optimistic but optimistic.
Agreed, optimistic. That would make us a 2 or 3 seed in the NIT? I'd take it.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 07, 2020, 02:51:57 PM
I'd say its overly optimistic.

Just eyeballing the numbers, I'm guessing mid 50s to 60s without Carton. Still need to do a deep dive.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: WarriorDad on May 07, 2020, 02:52:28 PM
It's May, go back and look at his predictions last year.  Like all of these guys, they get some right, some wrong.  Will there even be a season this year? 
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on May 07, 2020, 03:52:43 PM
It's May, go back and look at his predictions last year.  Like all of these guys, they get some right, some wrong.  Will there even be a season this year?

Agree with this and have been saying The Program has been back a couple years. Not Old Big East 8/8 Big Dance Back but back.
That said my feeling is not pessimistic and not optimistic either. Goodman is by no means Gospel but he does get paid to do this for a living and probably knows more than I do. Either way it is good Publicity for Marquette.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Tha Hound on May 07, 2020, 05:25:52 PM
Without. Article is here: https://watchstadium.com/jeff-goodmans-preseason-top-50-for-2020-21-04-23-2020/.

48 without Carton seems optimistic to me. Not overly optimistic but optimistic.

Agreed..I'd say with Carton I'd estimate around 40ish. Without more like 55ish
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: wadesworld on May 07, 2020, 05:40:46 PM
It's May, go back and look at his predictions last year.  Like all of these guys, they get some right, some wrong.  Will there even be a season this year?

But those Draft grades the day after the NFL Draft…very meaningful and important.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on May 07, 2020, 08:38:55 PM
It's May, go back and look at his predictions last year.  Like all of these guys, they get some right, some wrong.  Will there even be a season this year?

Yes
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 07, 2020, 09:25:42 PM
May i plz add, wtf does Goodman know?

And when did he know it?
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: WarriorDad on May 07, 2020, 10:41:11 PM
But those Draft grades the day after the NFL Draft…very meaningful and important.

That's a decent point, but in my opinion the comparison is a little off.  If Marquette signed a top 5 recruiting class (similar to a draft class), the excitement would be there and maybe ticket sales spike as a result.  Ultimately it comes down to play on the court, which is what I said about the NFL draft class too.  My words were something to the extent that in the end the draft grades don't mean much, but gives fans something to talk about and get excited about in the short term.   

Feel free to have the last word.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Class71 on May 08, 2020, 12:47:30 AM
Gosh, top 50. When do we get excited? I hear we are also in the top 100.
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 08, 2020, 07:31:17 AM
And when did he know it?

After Chris Mack told him
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: geps on May 19, 2020, 05:12:13 PM
Dropped to #49 but still in top 50 baby!
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: WhiteTrash on May 19, 2020, 05:26:00 PM
Dropped to #49 but still in top 50 baby!
Hang a banner!!
Title: Re: Jeff Goodman has Marquette at # 48
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 22, 2020, 04:36:07 PM
Dropped to #49 but still in top 50 baby!

The Jose Perez effect.