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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Galway Eagle on April 21, 2020, 05:30:00 PM
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Not sure if there's already one, but any scoopers want to form a virtual running group via Fitbit or another app? Hold each other accountable etc? I said at the beginning of quarantine I'd run every day and so far I've had 1 four mile and 1 five mile run lol so I figure if anyone else is in the same boat maybe we could help each other.
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I try to run four to five times per week. I'd be in. I use Strava as a tracking app which makes it pretty easy to create and maintain groups, but I'm open to whatever.
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5-6 times per week, but the weather has been crappy at 5:30am lately it's only been 3-4 times.
I use old basic Runkeeper.
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I’ve never understood how people get into running. That’s about the biggest torcher I can think of. Have never experienced a runner’s high in my life.
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Also, with many road races cancelled because of Coronavirus, many are running a virtual 5K instead.
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I’ve never understood how people get into running. That’s about the biggest torcher I can think of. Have never experienced a runner’s high in my life.
I've been running since age 13, Freshman year if high school. 37 years and going.
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I run 3-4 times a week and would love to run more but I'm injury prone so I limit myself so I can keep runing. I'm having a hard time with a number of things right now and would completely fall apart if I couldn't run. Running has always been my greatest stress relief.
I have had two marathons canceled due to Covid-19 and a 10K also. I'm waiting to sign up for any more races until I see events are able to happen again. I'm feeling a tad lost without a race to train for though. And I'm so bored with the same old running routes around my house...
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I run 3-4 times a week and would love to run more but I'm injury prone so I limit myself so I can keep runing. I'm having a hard time with a number of things right now and would completely fall apart if I couldn't run. Running has always been my greatest stress relief.
I have had two marathons canceled due to Covid-19 and a 10K also. I'm waiting to sign up for any more races until I see events are able to happen again. I'm feeling a tad lost without a race to train for though. And I'm so bored with the same old running routes around my house...
Agreed on the stress relief.
I've had two halves cancelled and am with you on waiting to sign up until races get underway again. Hoping to do the Twin Cities marathon in fall but I have my doubts.
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I’ve never understood how people get into running. That’s about the biggest torcher I can think of. Have never experienced a runner’s high in my life.
Do you feel good after a general workout? It's the same thing.
I usually do some running as part of a circuit training type of exercise. So I don't do great distances, but it is part of my routine.
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Do you feel good after a general workout? It's the same thing.
I usually do some running as part of a circuit training type of exercise. So I don't do great distances, but it is part of my routine.
The only time I really run is playing basketball (twice a week). The guys who wear some kind of distance tracker say they typically run about 2 miles total at basketball. Obviously much different than a 2 mile run. I feel fine after that. During the quarantine I’ve started doing yoga for the first time (had thought about doing it earlier to help with neck and upper back stiffness due to sitting at a desk all day). Have found it’s great on the legs except for the knees which it is killing (probably because I’m sure my form sucks) but just okay on the neck and upper back. Do find it to be a good workout and feel good after it.
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I try to run four to five times per week. I'd be in. I use Strava as a tracking app which makes it pretty easy to create and maintain groups, but I'm open to whatever.
Great thats 1, any other scoopers open to the idea?
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I’ve never understood how people get into running. That’s about the biggest torcher I can think of. Have never experienced a runner’s high in my life.
Lol, so you just decided to enter a clearly labeled running thread and chime in that you don't like running?
Ok
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Lol, so you just decided to enter a clearly labeled running thread and chime in that you don't like running?
Ok
Yes. Saw running thread. Figured I’d come and discuss my experience with running. My apologies that it doesn’t match up with yours. Looks like your contributions to the thread have been much more on point than mine though...
What is funny is that I’ve had to have chest X-rays done a couple times and without fail the tech comes back and asks if I’m a distance runner and is surprised when I say I hate running. They always say I have very long lungs and usually see that in distance runners.
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So I'm like Wades... Never could really get into running. I'd top out at a 5k, mainly out of boredom. But I'll play basketball as often as my body will let me.
Now that hoops are off the table for the time being, I'm planning on trying running again. Was thinking about the Couch to 10k app as a guide. Any tips from the more seasoned runners about training apps, or other things to keep in mind as I get started?
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So I'm like Wades... Never could really get into running. I'd top out at a 5k, mainly out of boredom. But I'll play basketball as often as my body will let me.
Now that hoops are off the table for the time being, I'm planning on trying running again. Was thinking about the Couch to 10k app as a guide. Any tips from the more seasoned runners about training apps, or other things to keep in mind as I get started?
1. Get real running shoes. It makes a huge difference.
2. It is boring at times.I've been running for years and I hate more runs than I enjoy, at least at the beginning. Find something that distracts you whether that's music, audiobooks, podcasts. I sometimes throw Uecker on during Brewers season.
3. I've heard Couch to 10k is good. It may start you off with really light workouts. I'm not sure if you get to pick your starting point but I know the ramp up is slow, and that's a good thing. If you need a tracking app, Strava, Runkeeper, Mapmyrun are all good options.
4. Stretch.
5. Just a suggestion, but have an end goal in mind. Sign up for a race a few months out. It has always helped me with accountability.
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1. Get real running shoes. It makes a huge difference.
2. It is boring at times.I've been running for years and I hate more runs than I enjoy, at least at the beginning. Find something that distracts you whether that's music, audiobooks, podcasts. I sometimes throw Uecker on during Brewers season.
3. I've heard Couch to 10k is good. It may start you off with really light workouts. I'm not sure if you get to pick your starting point but I know the ramp up is slow, and that's a good thing. If you need a tracking app, Strava, Runkeeper, Mapmyrun are all good options.
4. Stretch.
5. Just a suggestion, but have an end goal in mind. Sign up for a race a few months out. It has always helped me with accountability.
Re: #1, do you have a brand that you favor? I wear New Balance FreshFoam 1080s and find them to be comfortable.
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Re: #1, do you have a brand that you favor? I wear New Balance FreshFoam 1080s and find them to be comfortable.
I'm an Asics guy through and through personally. Have made the mistake of using those for HITT workouts and they do not hold up well.
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Re: #1, do you have a brand that you favor? I wear New Balance FreshFoam 1080s and find them to be comfortable.
I don't think I have a preferred brand. My favorite pair that I had were Saucony's, but I dislike a lot of their other shoes.
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Started running at age 39, I'm now 50. And I'm 160 lbs, vs. 200 when I started. I don't run competitively. Four miles every other day. Just enough for this old guy. I use Map My Run. Brooks Adrenaline for 11 years.
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Brooks Adrenaline this season.
Mizuno Wave Inspire 14 for 2019.
Brooks Ravenna 8 for 2018.
Brooks Ravenna 7 for 2017.
Brooks Ghost in 2016.
Brooks Ghost in 2015.
New Balance previously.
I didn't like the way the Mizuno's wore and went back to Brooks for this running season.
Go to a running store and try on a bunch of shoes and see what feels and fits right. As already recommended, don't skimp based on shoe price because your feet will thank you for a better pair.
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I run 3-4 times a week and would love to run more but I'm injury prone so I limit myself so I can keep runing. I'm having a hard time with a number of things right now and would completely fall apart if I couldn't run. Running has always been my greatest stress relief.
I have had two marathons canceled due to Covid-19 and a 10K also. I'm waiting to sign up for any more races until I see events are able to happen again. I'm feeling a tad lost without a race to train for though. And I'm so bored with the same old running routes around my house...
My big stress relief also. I'm wide awake for the day after every morning run.
I have 6 different routes mapped out in my neighborhood and one route that can be run in reverse order if needed to change things up. Can also tweak some of the routes shorter or longer depending on the weather or time constraint.
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Brooks Adrenaline are my go to shoes for just about all exercise. They're the only pair I've ever found that really fit.
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I’ve never understood how people get into running. That’s about the biggest torcher I can think of. Have never experienced a runner’s high in my life.
I used to feel exactly the same way about running. A friend and I would joke that we’d start running when we saw just one guy “jogging” with a smile on his face instead of a grimace. I was in my late 30s and stayed in decent shape without really trying. Softball 3 nights a week in the summer, flag football in the fall, basketball a couple of nights a week in the winter. But by the time I turned 50 my “exercise” was limited to walking on the golf course once a week. I decided to give running a try. At first, I could barely run a mile (slowly) and hated pretty much every stride. Soon it became tolerable, and eventually (to my amazement), enjoyable. Ran 5ks, 10ks and several marathons. Even ran the Boston Marathon 10 years ago. 71 now, just run for exercise (4-5 days, 15-20 miles a week) but I still enjoy it. Never had a big “runner’s high” but times that pass for me as “moments of clarity”. Give it a shot, Wades - hope you end up as pleasantly surprised as I did.
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I used to feel exactly the same way about running. A friend and I would joke that we’d start running when we saw just one guy “jogging” with a smile on his face instead of a grimace. I was in my late 30s and stayed in decent shape without really trying. Softball 3 nights a week in the summer, flag football in the fall, basketball a couple of nights a week in the winter. But by the time I turned 50 my “exercise” was limited to walking on the golf course once a week. I decided to give running a try. At first, I could barely run a mile (slowly) and hated pretty much every stride. Soon it became tolerable, and eventually (to my amazement), enjoyable. Ran 5ks, 10ks and several marathons. Even ran the Boston Marathon 10 years ago. 71 now, just run for exercise (4-5 days, 15-20 miles a week) but I still enjoy it. Never had a big “runner’s high” but times that pass for me as “moments of clarity”. Give it a shot, Wades - hope you end up as pleasantly surprised as I did.
Qualifying for Boston is impressive! It's a goal of mine but I'm not sure I'll ever accomplish it. I think my best hope would be between age 55-65 but who knows. The qualifying times seem to go down every time I start making some progress.
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Always been an athlete but until about 8 years ago hated running. Torn my ACL playing basketball because I was a fat bastard so for a year I couldn't do anything but run. My wife took it up at the same time to get in shape......worked really well(combined with a reasonable diet) as I dropped 65 pounds the year following. I've kept it up, running at least 4 times a week with a long run of at least 6 miles on the weekend.
Did my first and only marathon last year, got under 4 hours and the recovery was miserable for two weeks after so I'm done with that. Love running halves.
I use Garmin as my tracking and distance tool, I'd join a group if one gets started up
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I’ve never understood how people get into running. That’s about the biggest torcher I can think of. Have never experienced a runner’s high in my life.
For me, once I get to the point that I'm in shape enough to jog at an easy pace for an hour without tiring and there's good scenery, I genuinely love it.
I am not a natural runner. I start out by running maybe only 10 minutes 3 times a week. I gradually add 3-5 minutes more per session each week over the course of time to eventually work up to the point that it starts to be enjoyable. Since I am not a natural and am 50 years old, it takes me awhile to get into shape.
At present I'm only doing 33 minutes a shot so I have some work to do to get to the point that I start getting "high" from it. I think it will come when the weather here in Wisconsin is nicer.
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Long time runner. Don't go very far. Don't go very fast, but it's how I prefer to start my day at least 5 days per week.
My dog is my jogging partner. She makes sure we get frequent little rests. I appreciate that. She also likes to go fast occasionally, so we do our own interval training... run, walk, pee (her not me), jog, walk, sniff (her again), run, etc. I don't really care how far I go or for how long. We go until we are tired. Without her I would run much less frequently.
My best advice for anyone carrying a few extra kilos... several companies make "fat boy runners" which they market as stability running shoes. I've been using New Balance 1260 for a long time, and it's predecessors before that. Whenever I try something different - even when I tried light weight shoes for travel and did 5k in them - I felt like my whole body had been hit with a hammer.
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Agreed on the stress relief.
I've had two halves cancelled and am with you on waiting to sign up until races get underway again. Hoping to do the Twin Cities marathon in fall but I have my doubts.
I'm figuring on 2021 for most races to really start happening again at this point but I'd love to be wrong :). I'm seeing some August races canceled now so I'm not feeling real hopeful. I think I'll be a lot more appreciative of being able to run races once they start up again.
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I'm figuring on 2021 for most races to really start happening again at this point but I'd love to be wrong :). I'm seeing some August races canceled now so I'm not feeling real hopeful. I think I'll be a lot more appreciative of being able to run races once they start up again.
Do a virtual race for a fundraiser.
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I'll probably end up doing a virtual race but am really struggling to get excited about it.
Sounds like we'd have 3 or 4 for a running group. Any others?
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I will join. I have done a handful of half-marathons. My knee gave out on the last one about halfway through and I finished just as they were starting to pack up. The pity claps I got were humiliating. That and being passed by a woman with the name "Minerva" on her bib.
That was about two years ago. As long as I start slow, I am hoping to be okay. Anyone have pointers on some pre-emptive knee care? Exercises? Braces?
For the record, I don't like running at all, but it's a damn efficient means of exercise. Having good tunage makes a big difference in my case. Also, I usually train for a particular race, because it has proven to be a good incentive for me.
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I will join. I have done a handful of half-marathons. My knee gave out on the last one about halfway through and I finished just as they were starting to pack up. The pity claps I got were humiliating. That and being passed by a woman with the name "Minerva" on her bib.
That was about two years ago. As long as I start slow, I am hoping to be okay. Anyone have pointers on some pre-emptive knee care? Exercises? Braces?
For the record, I don't like running at all, but it's a damn efficient means of exercise. Having good tunage makes a big difference in my case. Also, I usually train for a particular race, because it has proven to be a good incentive for me.
Foam roller and running on grass brought my left knee back from being unable to go two blocks on pavement to actually running again
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I'll probably end up doing a virtual race but am really struggling to get excited about it.
Sounds like we'd have 3 or 4 for a running group. Any others?
Virtual races generally don't motivate me. Each of my marathons that was canceled this spring offered this option but I didn't do that. I'm also trying do do marathons in all the states though so the virtual one isn't much of an incentive for me as they don't count towards the state goal.
I am doing two free virtual things right now though - Badgerland Striders has one for free for members where you need to run, bike or walk at least 20 minutes everyday for 30 days. And I signed up for a free virtual half-marathon one for 4 weeks or so - my long training runs are usually 10-13 miles these days so I figured I'd just do the half distance for the long runs for a bit.
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I will join. I have done a handful of half-marathons. My knee gave out on the last one about halfway through and I finished just as they were starting to pack up. The pity claps I got were humiliating. That and being passed by a woman with the name "Minerva" on her bib.
That was about two years ago. As long as I start slow, I am hoping to be okay. Anyone have pointers on some pre-emptive knee care? Exercises? Braces?
For the record, I don't like running at all, but it's a damn efficient means of exercise. Having good tunage makes a big difference in my case. Also, I usually train for a particular race, because it has proven to be a good incentive for me.
It might depend on the type of knee issue of course but my chiropractor was a life saver for me when I ran into some knee issues with running a couple years ago.
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I will join. I have done a handful of half-marathons. My knee gave out on the last one about halfway through and I finished just as they were starting to pack up. The pity claps I got were humiliating. That and being passed by a woman with the name "Minerva" on her bib.
That was about two years ago. As long as I start slow, I am hoping to be okay. Anyone have pointers on some pre-emptive knee care? Exercises? Braces?
For the record, I don't like running at all, but it's a damn efficient means of exercise. Having good tunage makes a big difference in my case. Also, I usually train for a particular race, because it has proven to be a good incentive for me.
You should try physical therapy.
After my second knee surgery, they had me riding the stationary bike and a lot of stretchy band stuff with knee movements.
It surprisingly worked.
Also, I get Euphylexa shots once a year in my achy knee.
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Virtual races generally don't motivate me. Each of my marathons that was canceled this spring offered this option but I didn't do that. I'm also trying do do marathons in all the states though so the virtual one isn't much of an incentive for me as they don't count towards the state goal.
I am doing two free virtual things right now though - Badgerland Striders has one for free for members where you need to run, bike or walk at least 20 minutes everyday for 30 days. And I signed up for a free virtual half-marathon one for 4 weeks or so - my long training runs are usually 10-13 miles these days so I figured I'd just do the half distance for the long runs for a bit.
I'm participating in the Badgerland Strider 30 say challenge as well.
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Like a few others have mentioned, I didn’t start running until my late 30s. Ultimate goal this year was to qualify for Boston. We’ll see if any qualifying marathons take place this Fall. Perhaps Lakefront is most likely. Crowd gatherings are much smaller than the bigger city races and less runners might make it a logistical possibility.
I need to mix up my routes or I tend to get bored. I use Strava to track everything. Other people’s posts keep me motivated.
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Like a few others have mentioned, I didn’t start running until my late 30s. Ultimate goal this year was to qualify for Boston. We’ll see if any qualifying marathons take place this Fall. Perhaps Lakefront is most likely. Crowd gatherings are much smaller than the bigger city races and less runners might make it a logistical possibility.
I need to mix up my routes or I tend to get bored. I use Strava to track everything. Other people’s posts keep me motivated.
My training app tells me when I am halfway through my run so I can run in any direction I want, and then just turn around and go back the way I came. It has been a godsend.
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Runners,
How substitutable is biking for running?
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Runners,
How substitutable is biking for running?
Always good to mix it up a little bit. As long as you can get some hills in it can substitute pretty well. In my experience biking has had more effect on my quads but I can't bike that long. No matter what seat I get it just hurts the region down south ya know
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Runners,
How substitutable is biking for running?
I've done two triathlons (NOT Iron Man ones) and I did no bike riding to prepare. Just run and swim.
And biking affects your overall time more than the other two since your riding a bike for much longer a time.
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I've done two triathlons (NOT Iron Man ones) and I did no bike riding to prepare. Just run and swim.
And biking affects your overall time more than the other two since your riding a bike for much longer a time.
Since swimming is my best event, I always thought the swimming portion was way too short. You could be twice as fast as everyone else in the swimming portion and someone could make up the difference on the bike in a few minutes.
Also, I am not the least bit mechanically inclined, and so the machinery angle to biking always intimidated me.
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I'm participating in the Badgerland Strider 30 say challenge as well.
I run 3-4 times a week and am usually walking everyday so I figured why not join - couldn't beat the price either :). My biggest issues were figuring out my login for the BLS site and linking my garmin connect to strava but that didn't end up being too bad to setup.
I did my 4th half in the last 4 weeks today for my long training run for the Silver Circle virtual series that was also free to enter. I think that goes for another week or so and then I'll go back to running anywhere from 9-13 for my long runs each week probably. I'm having to face the very real possibility that pretty much all races will be canceled for 2020 so I'm going to have to mentally get used to running with no races to train for.
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I try to run four to five times per week. I'd be in. I use Strava as a tracking app which makes it pretty easy to create and maintain groups, but I'm open to whatever.
Just made a profile on strava can't figure out how to create a new group though.
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Just made a profile on strava can't figure out how to create a new group though.
I believe you have to do it on the website.
https://www.strava.com/clubs/new
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I believe you have to do it on the website.
https://www.strava.com/clubs/new
Cool well here's the club link for anyone interested!
https://www.strava.com/clubs/639792
Lmao went for 3mi after posting but didn't sync the app up! At least my Fitbit won't judge me for awhile
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Cool well here's the club link for anyone interested!
https://www.strava.com/clubs/639792
Lmao went for 3mi after posting but didn't sync the app up! At least my Fitbit won't judge me for awhile
You can do a manual sync to transfer fitbit over to Strava, but I'm not sure exactly how. You have to download the file from Fitbit's website and upload it to Strava's. If it's worth the effort to you.
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You can do a manual sync to transfer fitbit over to Strava, but I'm not sure exactly how. You have to download the file from Fitbit's website and upload it to Strava's. If it's worth the effort to you.
Eh I'll just start tomorrow
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I'm having to face the very real possibility that pretty much all races will be canceled for 2020 so I'm going to have to mentally get used to running with no races to train for.
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I’m usually in the same boat: need a future race to keep me motivated.
Last summer I joined The Milwaukee Running Group (OMG) and keeping in touch or following them on Strava has kept me focused. I definitely have missed the group runs over the past month and a half.
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I'm having to face the very real possibility that pretty much all races will be canceled for 2020 so I'm going to have to mentally get used to running with no races to train for.
I’m usually in the same boat: need a future race to keep me motivated.
Last summer I joined The Milwaukee Running Group (OMG) and keeping in touch or following them on Strava has kept me focused. I definitely have missed the group runs over the past month and a half.
I've done a number of the BLS runs for the Lakefront Marathon the last few years even when I was running different marathons. I enjoyed the organized runs with volunteers handing out water. And it's a nice change of pace from my usual running routes. And I have a friend I sometimes run with 1-2 times a month and I miss being able to run with her. I was supposed to be leaving this Friday with her to go to Lincoln, NE for my 2nd spring marathon...
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I've done a number of the BLS runs for the Lakefront Marathon the last few years even when I was running different marathons. I enjoyed the organized runs with volunteers handing out water. And it's a nice change of pace from my usual running routes. And I have a friend I sometimes run with 1-2 times a month and I miss being able to run with her. I was supposed to be leaving this Friday with her to go to Lincoln, NE for my 2nd spring marathon...
Where was the first cancelled Spring marathon? I tell myself I’m going to do some destination races. Yet to follow through.
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Where was the first cancelled Spring marathon? I tell myself I’m going to do some destination races. Yet to follow through.
St. Louis - was going to make it a family spring break trip - going to try to do it in 2021. I had actually looked up mararthons going on during spring break to pick out a race I wanted to do and a good family destination.
I've found traveling to do marathons a fun way to check out different places and try new races too.
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It might depend on the type of knee issue of course but my chiropractor was a life saver for me when I ran into some knee issues with running a couple years ago.
And to the person who said Physical Therapy actually worked... Marquette is a top 15 national PT program. PT works. Go to a PT that can do a video running analysis on you. It usually a weak hip or tight hip flexor, but could be something else.
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The running group got me off my a$$ and outside today after looking outside and thinking "I'll run tomorrow it's too gloomy now". Hope it's working for the other 5 of you on the group as well!
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The running group got me off my a$$ and outside today after looking outside and thinking "I'll run tomorrow it's too gloomy now". Hope it's working for the other 5 of you on the group as well!
I ran today but am thinking now it would have been a better day to take off - my knee is really acting up again :(. Hoping it feels better tomorrow with a day off and heading to the Chiropractor on Wednesday.
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My training app tells me when I am halfway through my run so I can run in any direction I want, and then just turn around and go back the way I came. It has been a godsend.
I can’t do that psychologically. I go out with no plan. Running in the city I may decide to turn at an intersection or keep going straight, depending upon the light. I may go over one bridge or maybe to the next. Then I map it out online and see how far I’ve gone. That got me a few weeks ago when my IT Band flared and I was still 4 miles from home.
I have a Garmin but recently the GPS has been way off; over 1.3 miles off this morning, so unfortunately it’s only good for keeping time on my runs right now.
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I’m letting my hip rest for a couple days. Hopefully back to good towards the end of the week.
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I made sure to go Saturday afternoon when the sun and warmth came out.
I was out this morning after the doom & gloom of Sunday & Monday.
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I can’t do that psychologically. I go out with no plan. Running in the city I may decide to turn at an intersection or keep going straight, depending upon the light. I may go over one bridge or maybe to the next. Then I map it out online and see how far I’ve gone. That got me a few weeks ago when my IT Band flared and I was still 4 miles from home.
I have a Garmin but recently the GPS has been way off; over 1.3 miles off this morning, so unfortunately it’s only good for keeping time on my runs right now.
I can't look at my distance until I'm at least 75% through the run or I psych myself out or get bored. I go out with a distance in mind but rarely with a planned route.
I'm trying to start doing training runs as if I'll be doing a half marathon in August and a full in October but it's difficult mentally given that races will likely be cancelled.
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I can't look at my distance until I'm at least 75% through the run or I psych myself out or get bored. I go out with a distance in mind but rarely with a planned route.
I'm trying to start doing training runs as if I'll be doing a half marathon in August and a full in October but it's difficult mentally given that races will likely be cancelled.
I had a half canceled in March, 10 days before the race. It would have been my first half. I tried to keep running and increasing my distances after (since I now had fewer workout options) and I did too much and had to take 16 days off. Since then I've cut my distance back and am keeping on flatter terrain as upslopes trigger the IT Band pain.
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I can't look at my distance until I'm at least 75% through the run or I psych myself out or get bored. I go out with a distance in mind but rarely with a planned route.
I'm trying to start doing training runs as if I'll be doing a half marathon in August and a full in October but it's difficult mentally given that races will likely be cancelled.
Maybe I'll start running like this instead of what I'm doing.
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Maybe I'll start running like this instead of what I'm doing.
It has greatly helped with my pace and distance because it enables me to just zone out and not constantly worry about how long I have left to go.
It has its downsides, though. I just wrapped up a run a mile from home and it started downpouring.
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I had a half canceled in March, 10 days before the race. It would have been my first half. I tried to keep running and increasing my distances after (since I now had fewer workout options) and I did too much and had to take 16 days off. Since then I've cut my distance back and am keeping on flatter terrain as upslopes trigger the IT Band pain.
IT band injuries are frustrating. For me, the only thing that has helped with healing is long-term rest. Good luck with your recovery. I hope you're able to continue training and complete that half when restrictions are lifted!
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IT band injuries are frustrating. For me, the only thing that has helped with healing is long-term rest. Good luck with your recovery. I hope you're able to continue training and complete that half when restrictions are lifted!
Thanks! Such intense pain. My wife is a yoga instructor and with her knowledge of anatomy and movement has helped me with exercises for recovery. I'm running at half of what I was when injured and no more than 3x a week right now. No pain yesterday but I don't want to push too much too soon.
It has greatly helped with my pace and distance because it enables me to just zone out and not constantly worry about how long I have left to go.
It has its downsides, though. I just wrapped up a run a mile from home and it started downpouring.
I like seeing my distance just for the feeling of accomplishment and thinking "how much more can I push it today." I'll go out and think "get at least 5 today," then I look down at my watch, see 4 miles and decided to make a left instead of a right or something like that, but it's never an "I'm going to run 5 and that's it." Though considering my injury issue maybe I should!
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My trainer encourages me to run without my watch sometime but I have such a hard time doing that. I think I just love the stats too much - I like knowing the pace and distance. The biggest trick for me is for long runs to be far enough away from my house that I don't want to have to walk too far to get home so I just end up running the whole planned distance...
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I've been doing 2 "fast" runs per week and 2-3 "slow" runs. It's really helped with my pace.
I used to try to do my best for every run and I always would hit a pace ceiling and that doesnt seem to be the case now that I'm doing fewer "fast" runs. We'll see once I get to longer runs though.
Anyone have any strategy for pace improvement other than HIIT?
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I've been doing 2 "fast" runs per week and 2-3 "slow" runs. It's really helped with my pace.
I used to try to do my best for every run and I always would hit a pace ceiling and that doesnt seem to be the case now that I'm doing fewer "fast" runs. We'll see once I get to longer runs though.
Anyone have any strategy for pace improvement other than HIIT?
I don’t know what HIIT stands for so I apologize if this is redundant. When I was training for 5ks, 10ks and even marathons I would do interval training at least once a week. I used the treadmill for this, as it’s easier to track. Slow warmup mile, then 3 or 4 miles alternating easy and fast quarter miles. Helps both speed and stamina.
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I don’t know what HIIT stands for so I apologize if this is redundant. When I was training for 5ks, 10ks and even marathons I would do interval training at least once a week. I used the treadmill for this, as it’s easier to track. Slow warmup mile, then 3 or 4 miles alternating easy and fast quarter miles. Helps both speed and stamina.
High intensity interval training.
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High intensity interval training.
Glad I apologized in case I was being redundant. Doh!
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I don’t know what HIIT stands for so I apologize if this is redundant. When I was training for 5ks, 10ks and even marathons I would do interval training at least once a week. I used the treadmill for this, as it’s easier to track. Slow warmup mile, then 3 or 4 miles alternating easy and fast quarter miles. Helps both speed and stamina.
Appreciate the insight! I tried interval training and it definitely helped my pace, but only to a certain extent. Once I started running over 5 or 6 miles it didn't seem to make a difference. But I'm starting to think I just wasn't giving my body enough recovery time. It's definitely valuable to mix that in.
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I used to do Fartlek (unfortunate name) training once a week for up to 45 minutes when training for a half or full. 5 minute intervals. Essentially sprint for 4 minutes and walk for one. It was hands down the most intense cardio workout. Always did it on a treadmill so I could gauge time and speed.
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I used to do Fartlek (unfortunate name) training once a week for up to 45 minutes when training for a half or full. 5 minute intervals. Essentially sprint for 4 minutes and walk for one. It was hands down the most intense cardio workout. Always did it on a treadmill so I could gauge time and speed.
I actually do these as a regular workout when I want to run. This morning for about a half hour - run 400m, walk a minute, run 400m...
Not real high intensity but it gets the heart going and I find it more interesting than just running.
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I've been doing 2 "fast" runs per week and 2-3 "slow" runs. It's really helped with my pace.
I used to try to do my best for every run and I always would hit a pace ceiling and that doesnt seem to be the case now that I'm doing fewer "fast" runs. We'll see once I get to longer runs though.
Anyone have any strategy for pace improvement other than HIIT?
I need to work HIIT better into my routine. I've slowed down so much the last 2 years without it.
We used to do Fartlek's in high school and our coach called them Oregons. They were killer.
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I generally do one tempo run, one speedwork run and one long run a week. Sometimes I add a 4th run but I don't run real high mileage per week even when training for a marathon. The tempo/speedwork/long run has worked well for me. And usually the type of speedwork I do varies each week of the training plan to keep things from getting too monotonous.
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It's looking more and more like no races until 2021 now and I'm having a bit of a hard time mentally with that. I'm so driven by training for races.
My trainer did give me a mix it up May routine which has helped a tad the last couple weeks with something a litle different in place of my normal speedwork - last week I did a run with 25 air squats every 1/2 mile and tonight I went and did hill repeats on the killer hill at Minooka Park with lunges in between repeats. I was more scared of falling going back down the hill than I was bothered by running up the hill quite a few times :). The trail running is a nice change of pace for me generally but the fall risk scares me and I have a friend who can't run for awhile after tripping on a rock on a recent trail run and breaking a bone in her foot.
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I just saw this in an email.
2020: VIRTUAL 5K RUN/WALK FOR THE MARQUETTE CLASS OF 2020
https://alumni.marquette.edu/virtual-run-2020-grads?srctid=1&erid=2378defa-b627-4852-a87f-5214d66cd98b&trid=2378defa-b627-4852-a87f-5214d66cd98b
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I just saw this in an email.
2020: VIRTUAL 5K RUN/WALK FOR THE MARQUETTE CLASS OF 2020
https://alumni.marquette.edu/virtual-run-2020-grads?srctid=1&erid=2378defa-b627-4852-a87f-5214d66cd98b&trid=2378defa-b627-4852-a87f-5214d66cd98b
Cute idea. If I knew a 2020 member I'd run
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Cute idea. If I knew a 2020 member I'd run
Chick Jr. is getting her Masters. You might know her.
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Chick Jr. is getting her Masters. You might know her.
What's her degree in? I just finished up my Masters in December.
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Chick Jr. is getting her Masters. You might know her.
Don't think so, I was 2013 with an additional victory lap. Youngest people I hung out with were class of 2015. Happy to run in solidarity though!
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What's her degree in? I just finished up my Masters in December.
Nursing. Undergrad she was class of 2014
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Nursing. Undergrad she was class of 2014
Oh then maybe our paths crossed 🤔 my undergrad recollection all very hazy between alcohol and concussions
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Oh then maybe our paths crossed 🤔 my undergrad recollection all very hazy between alcohol and concussions
She was a LIMO driver, so your paths probably did cross.
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Nursing. Undergrad she was class of 2014
Our paths likely didn't cross, then. But congratulations to her!
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Also, Scooper SaveOD238 got his Master's in Education this spring as well.
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The Fargo Marathon got the green light in August. Hoping this indicates good things for races going forward.
https://www.inforum.com/sports/recreation/6535103-Fargo-Marathon-ready-to-roll-could-be-one-of-the-few-in-the-country-for-rest-of-2020
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The Fargo Marathon got the green light in August. Hoping this indicates good things for races going forward.
https://www.inforum.com/sports/recreation/6535103-Fargo-Marathon-ready-to-roll-could-be-one-of-the-few-in-the-country-for-rest-of-2020
That's because it only has about a dozen runners right? ;)
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Not sure if I already posted this (and I apologize if I did) but my girl and I signed up to run the Napa to Sonoma Half. Was supposed to be July 18. Now rescheduled to December 8.
Curious if NoCal will lift its restrictions concerning the amount of people who can gather at one time.
Part of me hopes they will have the race but the part of me that needs to kick up the training is vehemently opposed to such large gatherings.
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I usually do a Father's Day 5K for Veteran's and it's obviously cancelled. Website lists the 2021 date with a "see you next year" note.
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an interesting way the half I was supposed to do in March is organizing. It makes a lot of sense. The good part for me is I'll be plenty separated from the pack within a few minutes as they all go past me.
Please note the following prior to registering:
2.) We will be starting participants in waves of 50 with 10 minutes between each wave. You will need to select your waive in registration. The start will be a rolling start in which you will have 10 minutes to cross the start line from the time of arrival.
3.) Participants will be mandated to wear a mask at all times prior to the event and through the first 1/4 mile of the run. Participants will also be mandated to put up their mask while running through aid stations.
4.) Participants will be asked to exit the finish line area and Rotary Park within 15 minutes after they finish.
5.) The bulk of the participants will need to take a bus to the start line prior to the run and back to their vehicles after the run. Participant's temperature will be taken prior to getting on the bus. Buses will be limited to 25 people per bus and masks will need to be worn at all times on the bus. Each bus will be sanitized after each trip.
6.) Packet pickup will be mandatory on Saturday, July 25th. We are still working on details. It will most likely be a Drive Through PPU in the Everett area.
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I am participating in a virtual run across Wisconsin - from Lacrosse to Milwaukee. Every time I run, I put in the mileage and time, and they keep track of it.
They must have confidence in me - they have already sent me my finisher's medal even though I have only made it to just past White City.
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What are some unique races that people have run?
Or memorable part of a race where you said "WTF?", or "such incredible scenery", etc.
I've seen mention of those running marathons, including Boston which just getting into that race is an accomplishment.
I've done the 5th Avenue Mile in NYC before. It's weird doing a mile race as the moment you break out of the pack and are ready to settle into a pace, you're telling yourself you can't because it's almost over. And then it's over.
I usually do a race on Mother's Day (my wife's choice) and Father's Day (my choice). It helps that both run along the waterfront for great scenery in MU82's old town.
I did a Halloween 10K once, The Sleepy Hollow 10K. (The time I ran was when Season 2 of the show Sleepy Hollow was showing on TV.) Race starts by following the Headless Horseman through Sleepy Hollow, NY along with great views of the Hudson River. There's a steep long hill in the middle of the race and the race finishes by running 50-60 yards up a monster 60 degree incline hill. If the Headless Horseman was chasing me I'd be chopped.
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What are some unique races that people have run?
Or memorable part of a race where you said "WTF?", or "such incredible scenery", etc.
I've seen mention of those running marathons, including Boston which just getting into that race is an accomplishment.
I've done the 5th Avenue Mile in NYC before. It's weird doing a mile race as the moment you break out of the pack and are ready to settle into a pace, you're telling yourself you can't because it's almost over. And then it's over.
I usually do a race on Mother's Day (my wife's choice) and Father's Day (my choice). It helps that both run along the waterfront for great scenery in MU82's old town.
I did a Halloween 10K once, The Sleepy Hollow 10K. (The time I ran was when Season 2 of the show Sleepy Hollow was showing on TV.) Race starts by following the Headless Horseman through Sleepy Hollow, NY along with great views of the Hudson River. There's a steep long hill in the middle of the race and the race finishes by running 50-60 yards up a monster 60 degree incline hill. If the Headless Horseman was chasing me I'd be chopped.
My first half-marathon was in Las Vegas. It started after sundown on the strip, so all of the lights were on. The staging area was across from Mandalay Bay (this was before the mass shooting that occurred there). You ran south from Mandalay Bay, went around the "Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas" sign, and back up the strip, with drunk people cheering you on the entire way. From there, you took a right at the Stratosphere, through some older neighborhoods with some great mid-century architecture, through Downtown, and back down the strip, ending at Treasure Island. It was awesome.
Has anyone done a Disney race? It's definitely on my bucket list.
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My first half-marathon was in Las Vegas. It started after sundown on the strip, so all of the lights were on. The staging area was across from Mandalay Bay (this was before the mass shooting that occurred there). You ran south from Mandalay Bay, went around the "Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas" sign, and back up the strip, with drunk people cheering you on the entire way. From there, you took a right at the Stratosphere, through some older neighborhoods with some great mid-century architecture, through Downtown, and back down the strip, ending at Treasure Island. It was awesome.
Has anyone done a Disney race? It's definitely on my bucket list.
I assume the weather is much more comfortable in the evening for running in Las Vegas. The drunk cheering section.
Reminds me in high school, I had to do volunteer work. The whole Cross Country team volunteered for the Stroh's Run for Liberty to raise money for the Statue of Liberty restoration. This group of 3 guys signed up for the race last minute. They showed up with a grocery storage carriage full of beer. The guys walked the race pushing the cart and drinking and were obviously the last to finish. Everyone was going nuts at the finish line as they were coming down the final stretch.
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I assume the weather is much more comfortable in the evening for running in Las Vegas. The drunk cheering section.
It was in November, so it was actually a bit chilly. People wore thrift-store hoodies at the beginning and ditched them on the way as they warmed up. The Salvation Army had people picking them up afterwards to sell them again.
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One more race type I've done several times. Since we're almost at the Summer Solstice, many places hold a Sunset 5K evening race on/near the solstice to celebrate the longest day of the year.
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Has anyone done a Disney race? It's definitely on my bucket list.
My wife does the Princess Challenge every year. 5K on Friday, 10K Saturday, Half Marathon Sunday. She loves it. Its not her fastest times, because she stops and gets pictures with all of the characters. Disney breaks out characters you dont see at the parks, as well. Not sure if they are going to have the meet and greets this next time in 2021. Also, it sold out in minutes due to the reduced amount of spots available.
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My first half-marathon was in Las Vegas. It started after sundown on the strip, so all of the lights were on. The staging area was across from Mandalay Bay (this was before the mass shooting that occurred there). You ran south from Mandalay Bay, went around the "Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas" sign, and back up the strip, with drunk people cheering you on the entire way. From there, you took a right at the Stratosphere, through some older neighborhoods with some great mid-century architecture, through Downtown, and back down the strip, ending at Treasure Island. It was awesome.
Has anyone done a Disney race? It's definitely on my bucket list.
I ran the marathon in Vegas. Running at night was a unique experience but I don't think I'd do it again. The first half of the course on the strip was great, the back half was in the outskirts and in parking lots businesses which was terrible.
Couldn't believe how cold it felt towards the end.
Chicago is my favorite of the ones I've completed.
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What are some unique races that people have run?
Or memorable part of a race where you said "WTF?", or "such incredible scenery", etc.
I've seen mention of those running marathons, including Boston which just getting into that race is an accomplishment.
I did a Ragnar relay in Washington State, starting at the Canadian border. My second leg started at 4am in the dark and it was lighter when I finished (my wife's second leg was at 2:30am). My final leg started on the waterfront on Whidby Island and was an immediate steep climb to the highway. That was ROUGH!
The whole experience was interesting. Running along the water, through small towns, over bridges, etc. Two vans of six, our group, after finishing our individual first legs, had a layover in a small town in Washington. Volunteers served us dinner at the high school and we slept (poorly) outside until our first group came for the switch.
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I ran the marathon in Vegas. Running at night was a unique experience but I don't think I'd do it again. The first half of the course on the strip was great, the back half was in the outskirts and in parking lots businesses which was terrible.
Couldn't believe how cold it felt towards the end.
Chicago is my favorite of the ones I've completed.
Yeah, the half skips that back park (obviously).
I would highly recommend this one for a first half. Nice flat course and you can make a nice trip out of it besides the race.
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That's because it only has about a dozen runners right? ;)
I know you are joking but I ran the Fargo Marathon in 2017 and loved it. It's one of my favorites of the 11 Marathons I've done. I hope it does really happen as I'm getting so bummed seeing all these Marathons canceled :(.
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I ran the marathon in Vegas. Running at night was a unique experience but I don't think I'd do it again. The first half of the course on the strip was great, the back half was in the outskirts and in parking lots businesses which was terrible.
Couldn't believe how cold it felt towards the end.
Chicago is my favorite of the ones I've completed.
I haven't heard very great things about that Vegas Marathon - definitely think I'll do a different Marathon for my Nevada one.
I think I'm the only runner I know who didn't absolutely love the Chicago Marathon. I didn't hate it by any means but it's nowhere near my favorite one I've done.
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I had ane exciting thing tonight - signed up for a trail half in August. If it happens (and I hope it does), it will be my first race since mid-February. It's a Silver Circle Event and they're starting to do some actual races with waves at the start to help with distancing.
It's not the Marathon in another state that I'd like to be doing but it will have to do for now with all the Marathons being canceled...
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I haven't heard very great things about that Vegas Marathon - definitely think I'll do a different Marathon for my Nevada one.
I think I'm the only runner I know who didn't absolutely love the Chicago Marathon. I didn't hate it by any means but it's nowhere near my favorite one I've done.
Have they figured out how to host a proper marathon in Chicago yet? Once the race was measured at 27.2 miles. Another time they ran out of water and runners started dropping like flies. Fix these kinds of problems and it would be a great race in a great city.
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Last night in Portland, Shelby Houlihan and Karissa Schweizer became the first two American women to run the 5,000 meters in less than 14:30. Houlihan ran a time of 14:23.92 and Schweizer ran a time of 14:26.34. Both are from Iowa. Houlihan ran at Arizona St. And Schweizer at Mizzou.
https://twitter.com/KarissaSchweiz4/status/1281976132061900800?s=19
Mo Ahmed ran a 12:47 in the men's 5,000.
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Sounds like the Dolittle Marathon and Half in Waukesha will be a go. It won't be a Boston Qualifier, though.
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The big race here, New Haven Labor Day Road Race announced this week it'll be virtual this year It's always the UST&F 20k Championship race.
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Sounds like the Dolittle Marathon and Half in Waukesha will be a go. It won't be a Boston Qualifier, though.
Yeah that's put on by Silver Circle and they've been able to host races the last few weeks with social distancing. But yeah they'll have to change the course as the state isn't giving out permits for things now so they can't get a permit for the Glacial Drumlin Trail. I may do the half - we will see.
I ran my first race since February today - the Hill on Earth Elimination Run at Minooka Park in Waukesha and it was a lot of fun. It was put on by Silver Circle with a limit on number of participants and wave starts of 10. I signed up for two 4 mile laps but felt good and wanted to challenge myself so I did 4 laps for 16 miles. That was my longest run since March back when I was training for a Marathon (that was canceled due to Covid) and it was great to do a race again.
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How's running going for everyone?
I still really miss the training for Marathons and miss having a lot of races to train for in general. But I have really gotten into trail running since March - one good thing to come out of this year for me. I've done a lot of running on the Ice Age Trail in Wisconsin.
I did my first road race today since February - they limited how many people ran it and spread things out at the start. It felt good to race again.
I had wanted to run the 2021 St. Louis Marathon with my deferral from the one this year that got canceled in March. But I"m not sure that's going to happen in 2021 either. I'm not really signing up for many races now as I want to wait and see when races can start happening reguarly again - don't want to lose out on too much money with fees for races that get canceled or switched to virtual.
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I’ve never enjoyed running. I gave it one try during quarantine and my chest hurt the entire time. People say once you do it consistently for 2 weeks you get past that. I just can’t imagine going through that for two straight weeks.
I have enjoyed getting out for walks when the weather isn’t terrible. I’ve picked up yoga since I can’t play my normal basketball twice a week and volleyball once a week. It definitely helps after a day sitting at a desk.
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I’ve never enjoyed running. I gave it one try during quarantine and my chest hurt the entire time. People say once you do it consistently for 2 weeks you get past that. I just can’t imagine going through that for two straight weeks.
I have enjoyed getting out for walks when the weather isn’t terrible. I’ve picked up yoga since I can’t play my normal basketball twice a week and volleyball once a week. It definitely helps after a day sitting at a desk.
I've been fortunate that I've always enjoyed running and it's an awesome mental outlet for me. And since I'm someone who loves sports but has zero athletic talent, it's a good sport for me to be involved in also :). Speed will never be my thing but I have really good endurance and I like the personal goal aspect of running. I have now run a marathon at a pace 2 minutes a mile faster than I used to be able to run a 5K.
I've been trying to walk more also as I've been working at home since March and will be for awhile longer yet and miss the walking around I used to get in at the office. We even had treadmill desks we could use there that were a nice change of pace. I had been doing spinning for my cross training but I'm hesitant to go to the Y now especially post-Thanksgiving.
That's good that you've found things you can do to be active that you enjoy.
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Was going great, got a sinus infection and stopped running for months. only recently restarted but 2mi has been it. Need to redownload the app so I can be held accountable again.
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It's been better. Have been running 5Ks 4-5 times per week but haven't upped distance in awhile. I'm signed up for the Milwaukee (half) Marathon in April so hopefully they can find a way to safely hold that race. Running is a struggle unless I'm training for a race.
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How's running going for everyone?
I still really miss the training for Marathons and miss having a lot of races to train for in general. But I have really gotten into trail running since March - one good thing to come out of this year for me. I've done a lot of running on the Ice Age Trail in Wisconsin.
I did my first road race today since February - they limited how many people ran it and spread things out at the start. It felt good to race again.
I had wanted to run the 2021 St. Louis Marathon with my deferral from the one this year that got canceled in March. But I"m not sure that's going to happen in 2021 either. I'm not really signing up for many races now as I want to wait and see when races can start happening reguarly again - don't want to lose out on too much money with fees for races that get canceled or switched to virtual.
I ran frequently until is hit higher temps in the summer. Resumed running in the fall. I moved and my condo where I finish is a gradual 1 mile incline from the riverfront and other areas where I run; that’s a tough finisher. Done for the winter now. I, like others, need a race to keep me motivated for longer distances, I haven’t done more than 5 miles since October. Hopefully I can get on a tread instead of just using my Peloton to stay in running shape.
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Similar to BM1090, I've been running 5-7k per day 5 days a week.
I usually gage my training by 5K roadraces of which I've had 0 in 2020. I don't think I can do a virtual race?
The cold weather shortens my runs and frequency until it's too cold and I usually take January & February off. I normally stay motivated thru mid December regardless of weather as my last race of the year is always Christopher Martin's Run for Kids usually held around December 10. They collect toys for kids and have one of the biggest part race parties in Downtown New Haven. And that's virtual now too.
Hoping this unseasonal warm weather holds another few weeks.
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I’ve never enjoyed running. I gave it one try during quarantine and my chest hurt the entire time. People say once you do it consistently for 2 weeks you get past that. I just can’t imagine going through that for two straight weeks.
I have enjoyed getting out for walks when the weather isn’t terrible. I’ve picked up yoga since I can’t play my normal basketball twice a week and volleyball once a week. It definitely helps after a day sitting at a desk.
The 2 week thing is true. I always need two weeks to get back into morning run habits after my winter hiatus
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How's running going for everyone?
I still really miss the training for Marathons and miss having a lot of races to train for in general. But I have really gotten into trail running since March - one good thing to come out of this year for me. I've done a lot of running on the Ice Age Trail in Wisconsin.
I did my first road race today since February - they limited how many people ran it and spread things out at the start. It felt good to race again.
I had wanted to run the 2021 St. Louis Marathon with my deferral from the one this year that got canceled in March. But I"m not sure that's going to happen in 2021 either. I'm not really signing up for many races now as I want to wait and see when races can start happening reguarly again - don't want to lose out on too much money with fees for races that get canceled or switched to virtual.
Running (and golf) have been a godsend for me, especially during the pandemic. Cancelled a ton of summer travel plans (including my MU 50th reunion) and aside from a trip to Austin to welcome grandchild #6 have been “stuck” in Naples since last Christmas. Despite the heat and humidity I ran 15-20 miles a week throughout the summer and fall. Cooling off now, and I’m increasing my mileage a little. No more training for races though - too old.
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Any tips for breaking in new shoes?
I generally get a new pair of running shoes once a year, and for the past 5 or 6 years I've just gotten "this years version" of the same model of shoe (Saucony Hurricane). This year, I decided to switch it up and go with a completely new brand because this years Hurricane model was significantly different, and I just wasn't feeling it. Went with the Brooks Bedlam and its been a huge struggle getting them broken in properly. There was always some discomfort in the past with new shoes, but this is just at a whole new level. Given the cost of these shoes, I really don't want to give up on them less than 50 miles into their life, but my feet are really hurting. Think I'm going to try rotating between them and my fairly worn down, but broken in pair from last year, to be able to keep running, but also continue to break the new ones in, but wondering if anyone has any other tips/suggestions. Thanks.
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Any tips for breaking in new shoes?
I generally get a new pair of running shoes once a year, and for the past 5 or 6 years I've just gotten "this years version" of the same model of shoe (Saucony Hurricane). This year, I decided to switch it up and go with a completely new brand because this years Hurricane model was significantly different, and I just wasn't feeling it. Went with the Brooks Bedlam and its been a huge struggle getting them broken in properly. There was always some discomfort in the past with new shoes, but this is just at a whole new level. Given the cost of these shoes, I really don't want to give up on them less than 50 miles into their life, but my feet are really hurting. Think I'm going to try rotating between them and my fairly worn down, but broken in pair from last year, to be able to keep running, but also continue to break the new ones in, but wondering if anyone has any other tips/suggestions. Thanks.
I don't have any great suggestions unfortunately. I try to rotate between two pairs of running shoes regularly. My problem the last couple years is there's a Brooks model I really like but I haven't been able to find anything else I really like. I had a pair of New Balance shoes that were hurting me badly when I ran - I tried using them for shorter runs as I had spent a good bit of money on them and didn't want to give up initially due to the cost. But the pain eventually became too much and I stopped wearing them. It did help slightly that I got into trail running and bought trail shoes too so not all my miles went on the Brooks shoes. Good luck - hope the shoes get better for you.
Looking forward to a run in the snow tomorrow - might pull out the Yak Trax for the firs time this winter. And I have a pair of microspikes I just ordered to use on the trails this winter - should have those in time to try out next weekend. I like running in the winter so much better than the summer.
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I’m currently rotating 3 pair (would be 4 if I actually did speed work. Ha). Also, like Marquette Fan, I’ve always worn brooks. Recently added a pair of new balance 800v10 to the rotation. Have only put ~ 20 miles on them but, so far, they are the most comfortable shoes I ever worn.
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Friend of mine knocked out a marathon and two 30 milers over a 42- hour span at the end of the year to finish with 5000 miles for 2020 😳
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I used to wear Asics exclusively. Bought a pairs of On (Swiss made, I think) on a lark. Bought 3 more pairs since - really like them.
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Friend of mine knocked out a marathon and two 30 milers over a 42- hour span at the end of the year to finish with 5000 miles for 2020 😳
Overachiever.
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Asics. 30+ years. Twice/year. Whichever pair is in the discount bin. Never had any break in issues.
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Asics. 30+ years. Twice/year. Whichever pair is in the discount bin. Never had any break in issues.
+1 they're not great for cold weather but beyond that no complaints
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Friend of mine knocked out a marathon and two 30 milers over a 42- hour span at the end of the year to finish with 5000 miles for 2020 😳
That’s an AVERAGE of nearly 14 miles a day. He was probably too tired to even notice the pandemic!
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I’m currently rotating 3 pair (would be 4 if I actually did speed work. Ha). Also, like Marquette Fan, I’ve always worn brooks. Recently added a pair of new balance 800v10 to the rotation. Have only put ~ 20 miles on them but, so far, they are the most comfortable shoes I ever worn.
I used to wear only Saucony and then found the Brooks I like. Now I can't even find a Saucony pair I like. A friend works at a local running store and I usually message her a couple times a year and ask her to order my size in the Brooks model I like especially when the new one comes out. I have to get a wide so they seldom have my size in stock. All this reminds me I think it's time for a new pair of Brooks shoes :).
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Friend of mine knocked out a marathon and two 30 milers over a 42- hour span at the end of the year to finish with 5000 miles for 2020 😳
I can't imagine as I can barely walk after I do one Marathon - have always been amazed at the people who run Marathons on back to back days. But then again I'm a low mileage runner even when training for marathons - I was happy with my 1,400 miles in 2020 - can't imagine doing something like 5,000 - that's a heck of a lot...
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Not a marathoner but my Runkeeper app says 618.5 miles for 2020.
I started out with Nike's 37 years ago and ended up with Brooks the last 5 years.
Break-in? Just put on and run. Just don't start out with a roadrace first.
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I can't imagine as I can barely walk after I do one Marathon - have always been amazed at the people who run Marathons on back to back days. But then again I'm a low mileage runner even when training for marathons - I was happy with my 1,400 miles in 2020 - can't imagine doing something like 5,000 - that's a heck of a lot...
My first marathon was the Wisconsin Marathon in Kenosha in 2015. I couldn't walk much the rest of the day.
The guy who won the race ran the Kalamazoo Marathon the following day....and won that one too.
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My first marathon was the Wisconsin Marathon in Kenosha in 2015. I couldn't walk much the rest of the day.
The guy who won the race ran the Kalamazoo Marathon the following day....and won that one too.
I always say there are two types of runners, those who have to work hard and do specific training to improve their times and the genetics, those who were just born to run and can pull off something like back to back marathons.
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Overachiever.
He is obviously a dopamine addict and needs an intervention.
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I used to wear only Saucony and then found the Brooks I like. Now I can't even find a Saucony pair I like. A friend works at a local running store and I usually message her a couple times a year and ask her to order my size in the Brooks model I like especially when the new one comes out. I have to get a wide so they seldom have my size in stock. All this reminds me I think it's time for a new pair of Brooks shoes :).
I tried on some Sauconys recently but they didn’t win me over. A few running friends bought the Endorphin Speeds and rave about them (I haven’t tried those...yet).
Perhaps I’m having more luck with the New Balance since I have narrow feet. Someone told me people with wider feet have issues with them. No clue if that’s true.
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I can't imagine as I can barely walk after I do one Marathon - have always been amazed at the people who run Marathons on back to back days. But then again I'm a low mileage runner even when training for marathons - I was happy with my 1,400 miles in 2020 - can't imagine doing something like 5,000 - that's a heck of a lot...
My 2020 mileage was in your range. Can’t fathom doing 3.5 times more!
She’s going to take up cycling this year. I’ll be interested to see how much that cuts into her running.
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I tried on some Sauconys recently but they didn’t win me over. A few running friends bought the Endorphin Speeds and rave about them (I haven’t tried those...yet).
Perhaps I’m having more luck with the New Balance since I have narrow feet. Someone told me people with wider feet have issues with them. No clue if that’s true.
I just know Brooks are good for me for width. My New Balance hit a weird spot on the side of my foot and hurt badly. I just called today to have the local running store order me a new model for the Brooks Adrenaline. When those are ready, I'll go in and try them on to make sure the new model is still ok and want to try on some Hoka's to see if those will work for me for another shoe to put in the rotation for road shoes.
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My 2020 mileage was in your range. Can’t fathom doing 3.5 times more!
She’s going to take up cycling this year. I’ll be interested to see how much that cuts into her running.
I'm way too injury prone to try doing too much more than what I already run. I run 4 times a week at most and won't run more than 2 days in a row for now. I had wanted to run 1,500 miles in 2021 but then I pulled a muscle in early December and couldn't run for a bit. I need to be able to run for my mental well being so I'm going to try to just stay healthy and have fun running for now and see what happens with the mileage. I still don't have anything to train for really as I want to run Marathons in all the states and most big races still aren't happening in 2021 for now.
But kudos to people who put in all that mileage...
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I'm glad I invested in some microspikes to use on the trails this winter. I'm finding I really enjoy running on the snowy trails. It can be challenging when the snow isn't all that packed but it's such great scenery on the trails and it breaks up the monotony well of running on the roads the same old routes.
Speaking of snow, I had something new happen to me on a run today. A car drove by me and a passenger threw a snowball at me - it threw me off guard and I didn't know at first what had hit me in the chest. It certainly wasn't painful but I can't say I'm real thrilled by the idea of someone throwing something at me while I'm running.
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How's running going for everyone?
I've been dealing with a hamstring injury and was completely shut down from running for awhile. I had a really hard time mentally when I couldn't run too :(. I'm gradually getting back into it the last few weeks and had a pain free 5 mile run this morning that felt great. I had my first trail run in about 4 months on Thursday - the running part of that was great - the fall I took not so great but oh well - that's a risk with trail running for me :).
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Fan...glad you’re hammy is better.
I’ve stayed consistent (~30mi/wk) so far this year. Today was day 1 of Chicago marathon training. I look forward to the structure; I’ve been winging it since Fall ‘19/ last time I ran a race.
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Not good. I've been shut down. My left knee blew up the first week of March just before the weather cooperated to go back to outdoor running. 3 Euphlexa shots and a cortisone shot later my doctor finally giving me an MRI next week.
No pops twists or pulls felt. Just started swelling, inflexible and a roller coaster of different levels of discomfort.
This is mentally tough especially post-pandemic. I was looking forward to spring time running.
Temporarily replaced with some exercises and a short hobbled walk down the street.
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Trying to tone down the distance and incorporate sprints for hurling season. Seems like my sprinting ability has suffered the most from the pandemic
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I had to stop running after I developed Piriformis syndrome. One of my hip tendons was rubbing against my sciatic nerve. Good times. Took several months of PT to fix.
Just doing some fast walking for now. Per my Fitbit, it burns almost as many calories and keeps me in the Fatburning Zone better than running.
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How's running going for everyone?
I've been dealing with a hamstring injury and was completely shut down from running for awhile. I had a really hard time mentally when I couldn't run too :(. I'm gradually getting back into it the last few weeks and had a pain free 5 mile run this morning that felt great. I had my first trail run in about 4 months on Thursday - the running part of that was great - the fall I took not so great but oh well - that's a risk with trail running for me :).
Fan,
Being in Florida for almost all of the pandemic made this pretty easy for me. Ran outside all last summer in spite of the heat (early mornings, easy pace) but I’ll be back in the gym on the treadmill by the middle of this month. Averaging about 20 miles a week, no (knock on wood) injuries. Only time I fall short is due to laziness.
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Not bad. Doing about 20 miles per week currently. About to start ramping up. Half marathons scheduled for two weeks from now, August, and October. Capping off the year with the Nashville Marathon in November.
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Not bad. Doing about 20 miles per week currently. About to start ramping up. Half marathons scheduled for two weeks from now, August, and October. Capping off the year with the Nashville Marathon in November.
Nashville is a tough one. Hope you like hills!
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Has anyone ran in the Saucony Endorphin Pros? Now that the Pro2s have been released, the original version is much cheaper. I know quite a few people that have worn, and loved, the Endorphin Speeds but haven’t heard much about the Pros. Looking for a marathon race shoe.
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I had to stop running after I developed Piriformis syndrome. One of my hip tendons was rubbing against my sciatic nerve. Good times. Took several months of PT to fix.
Just doing some fast walking for now. Per my Fitbit, it burns almost as many calories and keeps me in the Fatburning Zone better than running.
I've been setting the tread incline to 12% and walking at 3.5ish. Makes the heart beat and the sweat flow. Is it good though? I have no idea.
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How's running going for everyone?
I've been dealing with a hamstring injury and was completely shut down from running for awhile. I had a really hard time mentally when I couldn't run too :(. I'm gradually getting back into it the last few weeks and had a pain free 5 mile run this morning that felt great. I had my first trail run in about 4 months on Thursday - the running part of that was great - the fall I took not so great but oh well - that's a risk with trail running for me :).
Not so good. I've only been out a few times this year. I live up a hill now, it's a 1+ mile incline from the riverfront where I usually run to my condo. That's an ass kicker! I did get the new Nike ZoomX Invincible and they are amazingly springy and soft. I need to sign up for a race for some extra motivation. I've mainly been using my Peloton, treads, and elipticals for workouts.
I've been setting the tread incline to 12% and walking at 3.5ish. Makes the heart beat and the sweat flow. Is it good though? I have no idea.
Hell yeah that's good.
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Fan...glad you’re hammy is better.
I’ve stayed consistent (~30mi/wk) so far this year. Today was day 1 of Chicago marathon training. I look forward to the structure; I’ve been winging it since Fall ‘19/ last time I ran a race.
Thanks.
I feel you on the structure of training for something. I feel so lost since the last Marathon I ran was November 2019. Although I did get pretty far into my training for the St. Louis Marathon in March 2020 before it was canceled. I really need to pick out a fall marathon and sign up for it so I have a goal in mind. Good luck with your training for Chicago.
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Not good. I've been shut down. My left knee blew up the first week of March just before the weather cooperated to go back to outdoor running. 3 Euphlexa shots and a cortisone shot later my doctor finally giving me an MRI next week.
No pops twists or pulls felt. Just started swelling, inflexible and a roller coaster of different levels of discomfort.
This is mentally tough especially post-pandemic. I was looking forward to spring time running.
Temporarily replaced with some exercises and a short hobbled walk down the street.
Sorry to hear that - I know it is no fun to be shut down from running. Hope the MRI gives you some answers and that you can bet back to running soon.
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Not so good. I've only been out a few times this year. I live up a hill now, it's a 1+ mile incline from the riverfront where I usually run to my condo. That's an ass kicker! I did get the new Nike ZoomX Invincible and they are amazingly springy and soft. I need to sign up for a race for some extra motivation. I've mainly been using my Peloton, treads, and elipticals for workouts.
Hell yeah that's good.
Here in New England you're always running uphill. The entire run....
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I had to stop running after I developed Piriformis syndrome. One of my hip tendons was rubbing against my sciatic nerve. Good times. Took several months of PT to fix.
Just doing some fast walking for now. Per my Fitbit, it burns almost as many calories and keeps me in the Fatburning Zone better than running.
Bummer - I had issues with the piriformis years ago and had to do PT also. Sounds like the fast walking is going well for you for now at least.
Fan,
Being in Florida for almost all of the pandemic made this pretty easy for me. Ran outside all last summer in spite of the heat (early mornings, easy pace) but I’ll be back in the gym on the treadmill by the middle of this month. Averaging about 20 miles a week, no (knock on wood) injuries. Only time I fall short is due to laziness.
Yeah I would not do well with the heat. My favorite weather condition to run is mid 50's with a light rain actually. Good luck with the treadmill runs.
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Not bad. Doing about 20 miles per week currently. About to start ramping up. Half marathons scheduled for two weeks from now, August, and October. Capping off the year with the Nashville Marathon in November.
Good luck with the training and with all the races.
Not so good. I've only been out a few times this year. I live up a hill now, it's a 1+ mile incline from the riverfront where I usually run to my condo. That's an ass kicker! I did get the new Nike ZoomX Invincible and they are amazingly springy and soft. I need to sign up for a race for some extra motivation. I've mainly been using my Peloton, treads, and elipticals for workouts.
Good luck finding the extra motivation. I'm only signed up for one race the rest of the year so far - a 5K at the beer garden near my house. I started to hate 5K's once I started running marathons and have pretty much sworn them off. But once I saw their tshirt that on the back says 'I run because I really ilke beer' I was sold :). I posted about the tshirt the race was offering on Facebook and had 4 friends sign up to walk it too :). I need to pick my fall marathon and then I'll sign up for a half-marathon or two that fit in well with the traning schedule.
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Anyone have any thoughts on the accuracy/precision of fitness tracker heart rate monitors? The handles on treadmills are useless, but can I trust the fitbit?
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Anyone have any thoughts on the accuracy/precision of fitness tracker heart rate monitors? The handles on treadmills are useless, but can I trust the fitbit?
I think so. When I'm on my Peloton I have a HR monitor on my upper arm as it displays on the screen. The HR on my Garmin watch is nearly identical to what is displaying on the screen. My wife does the same, but with a chest strap and Fitbit watch, and has the same observation.
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Anyone have any thoughts on the accuracy/precision of fitness tracker heart rate monitors? The handles on treadmills are useless, but can I trust the fitbit?
I'm not sure about Fitbit but I've had a wirist heart rate monitor on my last two Garmin watches and that has proved to be very valuable for me for my training. I know when my HR gets way too high, I need to slow down.
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I just got the bummer news. I have a torn meniscus. I still have no idea how it happened but the doctor said "it can just happen. It's not always sport's related."
6 weeks on crutches tucked into 4 months of rehab from surgery before being cleared to run again.
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I just got the bummer news. I have a torn meniscus. I still have no idea how it happened but the doctor said "it can just happen. It's not always sport's related."
6 weeks on crutches tucked into 4 months of rehab from surgery before being cleared to run again.
I had that surgery when I was 15 or 16, tough rehab and ask for a preventative second bill of PT. It'll make a world of difference.
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I had that surgery when I was 15 or 16, tough rehab and ask for a preventative second bill of PT. It'll make a world of difference.
Out of curiosity, how did you injure it and where/how bad was the pain? Yes, I am trying to self-diagnose.
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Out of curiosity, how did you injure it and where/how bad was the pain? Yes, I am trying to self-diagnose.
Lacrosse or distance running. Wasn't horrific unless I needed to pivot on it, just a constant annoyance that in old videos you can see I'm sort of compensating with a slight limp when I was running. Wasn't a full tear either though
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I just got the bummer news. I have a torn meniscus. I still have no idea how it happened but the doctor said "it can just happen. It's not always sport's related."
6 weeks on crutches tucked into 4 months of rehab from surgery before being cleared to run again.
So sorry - that is a big bummer :(. Best wishes to you on your surgery and rehab.
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Out of curiosity, how did you injure it and where/how bad was the pain? Yes, I am trying to self-diagnose.
In my case I have no idea? It happened in early March. I was only doing very light running on my treadmill in Jan & Feb. I don't recall any mishaps? I don't remember any weird leg twists either outside of exercise. Don't remember any pops or crack sounds.
Like Galaxy said, I can walk on it but I can't pivot. I could run a 5K today but the knee would be swollen and stiff and in major discomfort for two weeks afterwards. I have very little stability on the knee.
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I just registered for a Marathon in November - happy to have a goal race in mind to train for now. And it will be two years between marathons due to Covid cancellations and an injury.
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I just got the bummer news. I have a torn meniscus. I still have no idea how it happened but the doctor said "it can just happen. It's not always sport's related."
6 weeks on crutches tucked into 4 months of rehab from surgery before being cleared to run again.
I am not a medical practitioner but have done the torn meniscus / surgery / recovery thing several times.
- used crutches the first couple times but never again
- walk out of the hospital same day
- walking the dog and working out the limp to a proper gait within 1 week
- elliptical training from day 7
- light and short jogging on day 10-14
- no problem with longer runs by the 4th week
- hitting the gym 2-3 times per week to do leg strengthening work
- ice 2-3 times per day
- ibuprofen right away when it puffs up.
I'm in week 7 of recovery from the most recent one and despite advancing age, it's the same deal. Problem this time is the doc (and the video of the procedure) show the ACL (reconstructed in 1989) is gone. At least the replacement lasted longer than the original! So, I have a little less stablity than before.
A lot of doctors espouse a very conservative approach that actually causes significant muscle atrophy. Every day of atrophy takes 2 days of exercise to recover. Few people actually do he work to recover fully and then have limitations that can last a lifetime. My theory is to not let that happen. I've worked with several PT's along the way and most say that as long as you listen to the pain and control the swelling - do everything the joint can tolerate.
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I am not a medical practitioner but have done the torn meniscus / surgery / recovery thing several times.
- used crutches the first couple times but never again
- walk out of the hospital same day
- walking the dog and working out the limp to a proper gait within 1 week
- elliptical training from day 7
- light and short jogging on day 10-14
- no problem with longer runs by the 4th week
- hitting the gym 2-3 times per week to do leg strengthening work
- ice 2-3 times per day
- ibuprofen right away when it puffs up.
I'm in week 7 of recovery from the most recent one and despite advancing age, it's the same deal. Problem this time is the doc (and the video of the procedure) show the ACL (reconstructed in 1989) is gone. At least the replacement lasted longer than the original! So, I have a little less stablity than before.
A lot of doctors espouse a very conservative approach that actually causes significant muscle atrophy. Every day of atrophy takes 2 days of exercise to recover. Few people actually do he work to recover fully and then have limitations that can last a lifetime. My theory is to not let that happen. I've worked with several PT's along the way and most say that as long as you listen to the pain and control the swelling - do everything the joint can tolerate.
WarriorFan - I like what you're typing. You exactly described my arthroscopic surgery recovery 7 years ago.
My Orthopedist said he has done about 75+ of these surgeries. He's saying I'll be in a knee brace with the crutches. I re-read the protocol he gave me and it says 4-6 weeks, so it sounds like the 6 weeks they keep reciting me is a conservative time frame. I was scheduling my post-op appointments and I said I planned to drive there myself and the assistant said I might still be on pain killers (a week later?) and wasn't sure I could drive with a brace. I gave her a WTF and said I won't be on prescription ones for more than a day and I know ibruprofen will be enough for me.
Thanks for this. I have a pre-op appointment and I'm going to ask questions on why so conservative a recovery approach.
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I just watched Gabby Thomas destroy in the 200m Oly trials. Uhhhh.....she's awesome. You can see she's a bona fide superstar who will crush it in Tokyo.:)
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I just watched Gabby Thomas destroy in the 200m Oly trials. Uhhhh.....she's awesome. You can see she's a bona fide superstar who will crush it in Tokyo.:)
I’ve known Woody Kincaid for about 8 years and one of my closest friends was his college coach. I went to the Trials to watch Woody in 2016. Really happy he learned from his mistakes in that race and is headed to Tokyo.
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WarriorFan - I like what you're typing. You exactly described my arthroscopic surgery recovery 7 years ago.
My Orthopedist said he has done about 75+ of these surgeries. He's saying I'll be in a knee brace with the crutches. I re-read the protocol he gave me and it says 4-6 weeks, so it sounds like the 6 weeks they keep reciting me is a conservative time frame. I was scheduling my post-op appointments and I said I planned to drive there myself and the assistant said I might still be on pain killers (a week later?) and wasn't sure I could drive with a brace. I gave her a WTF and said I won't be on prescription ones for more than a day and I know ibruprofen will be enough for me.
Thanks for this. I have a pre-op appointment and I'm going to ask questions on why so conservative a recovery approach.
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How is running going for everyone?
I'm happy to be training for a marathon for the first time in ages - in week 3 of a 16 week plan right now. I've been doing a boot camp now too - trying to improve my strength and conditioning to try to avoid getting injured again.
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How is running going for everyone?
I'm happy to be training for a marathon for the first time in ages - in week 3 of a 16 week plan right now. I've been doing a boot camp now too - trying to improve my strength and conditioning to try to avoid getting injured again.
Did 2.5mi today, including a large hill both ways. Still trying to focus on my sprinting ability than distance so probably gonna be between 1mi and a 5k for the next year till North Americans
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How is running going for everyone?
I'm happy to be training for a marathon for the first time in ages - in week 3 of a 16 week plan right now. I've been doing a boot camp now too - trying to improve my strength and conditioning to try to avoid getting injured again.
First half-marathon went pretty well considering I never got above 5 miles in training. 7:55 pace. Hope to be down to about 7:40 when I run one in a few weeks.
Next marathon is November. I want to PR but considering our wedding and honeymoon are mid-September, finishing may be a more realistic goal.
Good luck with your training.
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How is running going for everyone?
I'm happy to be training for a marathon for the first time in ages - in week 3 of a 16 week plan right now. I've been doing a boot camp now too - trying to improve my strength and conditioning to try to avoid getting injured again.
Haven't been, too hot and back issues. Been on the Peloton almost exclusively. I was gifted some Infinity Zoomx Flyknits a few weeks ago. I've never run on a shoe with such bounce back. I may sign up for a race in the fall to get my ass moving. Plus, my wife is doing shoe testing for Nike so since she'll be out I should join her.
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Been in a leg brace since surgery July 13. Hopefully back to running around November 1 per protocol my doctor laid out. Second post-op appointment tomorrow so hopefully I at least get some physical therapy news as I'm ready for go time.
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How is running going for everyone?
I'm happy to be training for a marathon for the first time in ages - in week 3 of a 16 week plan right now. I've been doing a boot camp now too - trying to improve my strength and conditioning to try to avoid getting injured again.
Same old, same old - 5 days/20 - 22 miles miles per week. Moved mostly indoors (Florida), mixing easy (9:30) and quicker (8-8:30) miles, some interval training just to push myself a little. At 73, training for races is in my rear view mirror. Good luck with your marathon training - stay healthy! Curious as to your training regimen. Back in the day I think I also used a 16 week program. It was designed by an old guy trainer named Hal Higdon. What does yours look like?
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About halfway through 18-week training plan for the Chicago marathon. All had gone well until my 18 miler 2 Saturdays ago. The heat/humidity did me in along with an IT band flare up. No issues the past 2 weeks but the runs have been shorter. A little concerned that the pain will creep back in during tomorrow’s 20. I really need to stretch and foam roll more often. Perhaps this was a reminder.
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First half-marathon went pretty well considering I never got above 5 miles in training. 7:55 pace. Hope to be down to about 7:40 when I run one in a few weeks.
Next marathon is November. I want to PR but considering our wedding and honeymoon are mid-September, finishing may be a more realistic goal.
Good luck with your training.
Good luck with your training and enjoy the wedding and honeymoon.
Been in a leg brace since surgery July 13. Hopefully back to running around November 1 per protocol my doctor laid out. Second post-op appointment tomorrow so hopefully I at least get some physical therapy news as I'm ready for go time.
Hope your post-op appointment went well and that your recovery goes well.
Same old, same old - 5 days/20 - 22 miles miles per week. Moved mostly indoors (Florida), mixing easy (9:30) and quicker (8-8:30) miles, some interval training just to push myself a little. At 73, training for races is in my rear view mirror. Good luck with your marathon training - stay healthy! Curious as to your training regimen. Back in the day I think I also used a 16 week program. It was designed by an old guy trainer named Hal Higdon. What does yours look like?
Thanks. I don't have a specific plan I follow. My trainer usually looks at a particular program and modifies it to what fits best for my logistical schedule and me being injury prone also. One marathon was based on a less is more runner's world program with not super high mileage. I run 4 times a week at most and can't run more than 2 days in a row because of being injury prone. One big concentration in this plan is strength and conditioning with dedicated warm-ups and cool downs after each run. I've also started doing a boot camp and that seems to be helping also.
About halfway through 18-week training plan for the Chicago marathon. All had gone well until my 18 miler 2 Saturdays ago. The heat/humidity did me in along with an IT band flare up. No issues the past 2 weeks but the runs have been shorter. A little concerned that the pain will creep back in during tomorrow’s 20. I really need to stretch and foam roll more often. Perhaps this was a reminder.
Hope you are feeling better for your next long run. I'm terrible about stretching but am really working hard at it after not being able to run for awhile earlier this year. Good luck with your training.
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My wife did the very popular New Haven Road Race today (for the both of us). First time I missed in 25 years. I was relegated to cheerleading.
This race is the USA 20k Championship race so it's gets former Olympians and top American runners. The interesting thing my wife and I noticed was all the top men and women runners were wearing Nike Air Zoom Alphafly shoes. We were surprised since they seem to typically be wearing Brooks or Asics.
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My wife did the very popular New Haven Road Race today (for the both of us). First time I missed in 25 years. I was relegated to cheerleading.
This race is the USA 20k Championship race so it's gets former Olympians and top American runners. The interesting thing my wife and I noticed was all the top men and women runners were wearing Nike Air Zoom Alphafly shoes. We were surprised since they seem to typically be wearing Brooks or Asics.
Not surprised about the Alphaflys. They always seem to rank at the top. Those that don’t wear them probably have endorsements with other shoe companies. I’ve noticed the Saucony Endorphin series has become very popular with many I run with (obviously not top tier/Olympic runners). I would guess the most popular shoe for those I know hoping to BQ this Fall.
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My wife did the very popular New Haven Road Race today (for the both of us). First time I missed in 25 years. I was relegated to cheerleading.
This race is the USA 20k Championship race so it's gets former Olympians and top American runners. The interesting thing my wife and I noticed was all the top men and women runners were wearing Nike Air Zoom Alphafly shoes. We were surprised since they seem to typically be wearing Brooks or Asics.
Give them a try and go for a run in them. They are fast. Your time will drop simply by wearing those shoes.
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Give them a try and go for a run in them. They are fast. Your time will drop simply by wearing those shoes.
I like the sound of that.
Of course the $275 price tag is another issue.
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Just looked them up, those soles look weird.
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Just looked them up, those soles look weird.
Which is the only reason my wife and I noticed them.
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Speaking of running shoes, I thought I had found myself the perfect treat for a recent promotion at work - the Brooks Ghost 14 beer shoes :) - https://hypebeast.com/2021/8/deschutes-brewery-brooks-ghost-14-run-hoppy-release-date
But I've discovered they are hard to come by and don't come in wide sizes :(. My feet are way too wide to wear regular width shoes so it was apparently not meant to be that I owned these shoes.
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If we're doing the shoe thing, I use Brooks Adrenalines and have for years. Not really a "runner" per se, but they're the best fitting, most comfortable athletic shoe I've ever had. I wear 'em for pretty much anything that isn't going to the office.
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If we're doing the shoe thing, I use Brooks Adrenalines and have for years. Not really a "runner" per se, but they're the best fitting, most comfortable athletic shoe I've ever had. I wear 'em for pretty much anything that isn't going to the office.
Brooks adrenaline are my go to shoes the last few years - I order a new pair everytime a new model comes out. I've been trying to find another shoe to rotate with them and have had some trouble. But I got some Hoka's earlier this year that are working well for me. I also have a pair of Saucony Peregrine trail running shoes.
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I’ve been rotating Brooks Ghost, New Balance 880 and Saucony Endorphin Speeds. I really like the NB for pounding out miles. I’ve been rotating 3 pair of them since Spring.
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Brooks adrenaline are my go to shoes the last few years - I order a new pair everytime a new model comes out. I've been trying to find another shoe to rotate with them and have had some trouble. But I got some Hoka's earlier this year that are working well for me. I also have a pair of Saucony Peregrine trail running shoes.
I switched to Brooks Adrenaline last running season as they're the most comfortable I've worn. I bought a new pair for this season but they onlt have 3 running miles and the rest is walking.
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I switched to Brooks Adrenaline last running season as they're the most comfortable I've worn. I bought a new pair for this season but they onlt have 3 running miles and the rest is walking.
i have super wide feet and they work well for me. My HS daughter who is running cross country just got a pair of Brooks Ghost and likes those so far - she's not real happy about the wide feet I passed along to her either :).
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Anyone knock out any Fall races?
I ran The Chicago marathon a few weeks back and just loved it. Fun route and terrific crowd support. A very enjoyable weekend.
Took part in the Door County Fall 50 (relay) this past weekend. Perfect weather and a memorable, fun experience.
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Anyone knock out any Fall races?
I ran The Chicago marathon a few weeks back and just loved it. Fun route and terrific crowd support. A very enjoyable weekend.
Took part in the Door County Fall 50 (relay) this past weekend. Perfect weather and a memorable, fun experience.
You should try the Las Vegas Rock n Roll marathon. It's my favorite so far (I only ran the half). Nice flat course. They start the race in the early evening and you run down the strip with all the lights on. It's really cool.
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Anyone knock out any Fall races?
Took part in the Door County Fall 50 (relay) this past weekend. Perfect weather and a memorable, fun experience.
I participated in the Fall50 in DC on Saturday as well. No wind, sun shined late morning, well organized, and a nice party tent at the finish line. Second time running it (way better weather this year). I recommend it.
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I will finally be cleared November 9 to "start ramping up running type activities" post meniscal root surgery.
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I just got the bummer news. I have a torn meniscus. I still have no idea how it happened but the doctor said "it can just happen. It's not always sport's related."
6 weeks on crutches tucked into 4 months of rehab from surgery before being cleared to run again.
If you are seeking a little inspiration, Taylor Fritz is a good place to start. Taylor is a 23 year old professional tennis player who tore his meniscus this summer.
You aren’t likely a 23 year old World Class athlete, and you aren’t likely to have access to some of the same advantages but it can give you some inspiration nonetheless.
Taylor tore his meniscus playing in the French Open in June. He felt a pop in his knee and he had to leave the court in a wheelchair. Then he had surgery.
This was Taylor 10 days after his surgery with 3/4 hours of PT per day:
https://twitter.com/taylor_fritz97/status/1405954926979608576?s=21
29 days after his injury:
He entered Wimbledon and made it from the round of 128 to the round of 32.
https://twitter.com/christophclarey/status/1411371260374880258?s=21
Fritz went on to play 8 more tourneys, and, most recently, in October, 4 months after his injury, he made it from the round of 128, to the Round of 4 Semifinals of the 5th best tourney in the World, defeating a World Top 5, top 10, and top 15 player along the way.
https://twitter.com/bnpparibasopen/status/1449149877494059013?s=21
https://twitter.com/tennistv/status/1448437442378440710?s=21
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If you are seeking a little inspiration, Taylor Fritz is a good place to start. Taylor is a 23 year old professional tennis player who tore his meniscus this summer.
You aren’t likely a 23 year old World Class athlete, and you aren’t likely to have access to some of the same advantages but it can give you some inspiration nonetheless.
Taylor tore his meniscus playing in the French Open in June. He felt a pop in his knee and he had to leave the court in a wheelchair. Then he had surgery.
This was Taylor 10 days after his surgery with 3/4 hours of PT per day:
https://twitter.com/taylor_fritz97/status/1405954926979608576?s=21
29 days after his injury:
He entered Wimbledon and made it from the round of 128 to the round of 32.
https://twitter.com/christophclarey/status/1411371260374880258?s=21
Fritz went on to play 8 more tourneys, and, most recently, in October, 4 months after his injury, he made it from the round of 128, to the Round of 4 Semifinals of the 5th best tourney in the World, defeating a World Top 5, top 10, and top 15 player along the way.
https://twitter.com/bnpparibasopen/status/1449149877494059013?s=21
https://twitter.com/tennistv/status/1448437442378440710?s=21
The doctor and PT explained in more detail later that it was "meniscal root" which is like 2% of the meniscal tears and they only just started repairing in the last few years.
I'll be back. I'm ahead on PT, but extremely limited by what they and I can do due to the surgery type. I've come this far and a lot of the major workouts open up in 2 more weeks. Almost there...............
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The doctor and PT explained in more detail later that it was "meniscal root" which is like 2% of the meniscal tears and they only just started repairing in the last few years.
I'll be back. I'm ahead on PT, but extremely limited by what they and I can do due to the surgery type. I've come this far and a lot of the major workouts open up in 2 more weeks. Almost there...............
That's good. Good luck to you.
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You should try the Las Vegas Rock n Roll marathon. It's my favorite so far (I only ran the half). Nice flat course. They start the race in the early evening and you run down the strip with all the lights on. It's really cool.
The half is great. I do not recommend the full.
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You should try the Las Vegas Rock n Roll marathon. It's my favorite so far (I only ran the half). Nice flat course. They start the race in the early evening and you run down the strip with all the lights on. It's really cool.
I’ve considered the 1/2 in the past but never was able to make it work out. Thought I heard this year’s was pushed back to next February.
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I participated in the Fall50 in DC on Saturday as well. No wind, sun shined late morning, well organized, and a nice party tent at the finish line. Second time running it (way better weather this year). I recommend it.
Fall 50 was a lot of fun. Had 9 teams up there from our running group. Day went by much faster than I anticipated. Once we’d make the exchange, we hurried to the car to beat the rush to the next stop. Those 2 hills on leg 3 just about did me in!!
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Fall 50 was a lot of fun. Had 9 teams up there from our running group. Day went by much faster than I anticipated. Once we’d make the exchange, we hurried to the car to beat the rush to the next stop. Those 2 hills on leg 3 just about did me in!!
I ran that leg in 2019. You get into the park and think you’re almost finished and it never ends! They assigned easier segments to the old guy this time—probably sick of my bitching.
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Anyone knock out any Fall races?
I ran The Chicago marathon a few weeks back and just loved it. Fun route and terrific crowd support. A very enjoyable weekend.
Took part in the Door County Fall 50 (relay) this past weekend. Perfect weather and a memorable, fun experience.
Not yet - my first marathon in two years is coming up on 11/6.
I think I'm one of the only runners I know who hasn't loved the Chicago Marathon but glad it was a great experience for you.
I've heard lots of good things about the Door County Fall 50 - glad you had good weather and fun.
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Not yet - my first marathon in two years is coming up on 11/6.
I think I'm one of the only runners I know who hasn't loved the Chicago Marathon but glad it was a great experience for you.
I've heard lots of good things about the Door County Fall 50 - glad you had good weather and fun.
What didn’t you like about Chicago? Granted, it was only my 2nd marathon but I’m not sure I’ll ever do a smaller marathon again. Found the Chicago experience so much better. Overall, just hoping Boston expands the ‘22 field size back to the norm (cut it nearly in half this year) so I can run it in the Spring. If I knock out Boston, I might be done with the marathon thing unless I find a way into NY.
Have a great run on the 6th!!
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What didn’t you like about Chicago? Granted, it was only my 2nd marathon but I’m not sure I’ll ever do a smaller marathon again. Found the Chicago experience so much better. Overall, just hoping Boston expands the ‘22 field size back to the norm (cut it nearly in half this year) so I can run it in the Spring. If I knock out Boston, I might be done with the marathon thing unless I find a way into NY.
Have a great run on the 6th!!
Chicago had been so hyped to me by the time I did it and I think that didn't help. The big crowds aren't a big draw to me and I hated starting so late too - think I was in the third wave or so. I liked Fargo way more than Chicago. I think some of it is what you're looking for personally in a race. The last marathon I ran was the Marshall University Marathon in West Virginia two years ago - it's a two loop course and I saw someone say they didn't like the 2nd loop because there weren't as many people cheering and such. I loved the second loop as it was much less congested (a lot of people did the half) and I didn't need a huge crowd cheering me on. It helped I was in a zone and on my way to getting the PR I was after :).
Thanks - having some hamstring issues so a little concerned about next weekend.
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Chicago had been so hyped to me by the time I did it and I think that didn't help. The big crowds aren't a big draw to me and I hated starting so late too - think I was in the third wave or so. I liked Fargo way more than Chicago. I think some of it is what you're looking for personally in a race.
Yep. Completely agree on finding a race that fits you at the time. Everything fell into place for me in Chicago so I’m still flying high from that. Hence, I’m all about the big city races…at this time.
The Fall 50 was void of fan support (opposite of Chicago) but I loved every moment of it, also. I would definitely do more relay style runs.
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Yep. Completely agree on finding a race that fits you at the time. Everything fell into place for me in Chicago so I’m still flying high from that. Hence, I’m all about the big city races…at this time.
The Fall 50 was void of fan support (opposite of Chicago) but I loved every moment of it, also. I would definitely do more relay style runs.
Fargo unexpectedly was a lot of fun. It was a well organized race and just a very enjoyable experience. It was my 6th overall marathon in 2017 and got me started on my journey to run a marathon in different states. I went with some friends who are much farther along in that journey than me. I also broke 4:30 for the first time in that race which was a big deal for me (I'm slow and will never qualify for Boston :) ) especially after I had mentally fallen apart at 18 miles at the Lakefront Marathon the previous fall.
I've never done a relay style run but I have many friends who have done a Ragnar and have said they really enjoyed them.
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I've never done a relay style run but I have many friends who have done a Ragnar and have said they really enjoyed them.
I've ran in Hood to Coast and the Fall50 twice, the Bourbon Chase and "Ville to Ville" once each. Hood to Coast is the granddaddy of relay runs. The scenery is outstanding, and finishing at the ocean is phenomenal. Didn't much care for the Bourbon Chase from a running standpoint (wasn't well organized) but the Kentucky landscape and distillery stops made it fun. Ville to Ville (Asheville NC to Greenville SC) convinced me that shorter relays (Hood to Coast and the Bourbon Chase are both 200 miles) are the way to go (no 3:00 a.m. legs through a crappy part of Portland OR, for instance). The team aspect of the relays is a blast---you learn a lot about folks that you are stuck with in a van for a day or two.
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Just signed up for the #LovellStrong 5K Fun Run.
So how many in this thread are running either in person or virtually?
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Boston going back to 30K participants for ‘22 race.
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Just signed up for the #LovellStrong 5K Fun Run.
So how many in this thread are running either in person or virtually?
I'm running in person as much as I can - have a marathon in Kansas on Saturday.
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Boston going back to 30K participants for ‘22 race.
And as usual I won't be one of them :) . I'm just too slow to ever qualify but that's ok - there's lots of other running challenges for me.
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Just signed up for the #LovellStrong 5K Fun Run.
So how many in this thread are running either in person or virtually?
Virtual? I'd do that for sure
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Anybody have a good winter running sock recommendation?
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Anybody have a good winter running sock recommendation?
https://darntough.com/collections/mens-running-socks
They're pricey, but well worth it.
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Anybody have a good winter running sock recommendation?
Yes, don't run when it's too cold!
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https://darntough.com/collections/mens-running-socks
They're pricey, but well worth it.
What makes these winter specific? Not challenging, just curious.
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What makes these winter specific? Not challenging, just curious.
Wool is the best for thermal regulation, and they are lifetime guarantee.
Personal preference, I guess.
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https://darntough.com/collections/mens-running-socks
They're pricey, but well worth it.
Any particular ones you've found best for winter?
Yes, don't run when it's too cold!
I actually prefer to run in the cold than heat 😂 something about being one of the only people out in polar vortex weather motivates me.
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I'm running in person as much as I can - have a marathon in Kansas on Saturday.
How’d the race go? Hamstring hold up for the entire 26.2?
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Any particular ones you've found best for winter?
I actually prefer to run in the cold than heat 😂 something about being one of the only people out in polar vortex weather motivates me.
I have some smartwool socks for winter running that i like.
I'd much rather run in cold weather than heat also and prefer training for spring marathons over fall marathons too because of that. I'm not crazy about ice but have yaktraks I use on the roads and got some microspikes to use on the trails last winter (didn't get to use them much with an injury - looking forward to more winter runs with those this season).
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How’d the race go? Hamstring hold up for the entire 26.2?
Well I ran the whole thing and finished so that part is good. I started out a bit too fast and messed up some stuff with my hydration and nutrition and had my second worst time of my 12 overall marathons. But I came into this with no time goal and wanted to just get in another state and I accomplished that. This was state number 9 for me and my first marathon in two years. It felt good to be back out there doing a marathon again. During the race I questioned myself a few times wondering why I run marathons but I'm already looking up marathons in April on the running in the usa website thinking about what spring marathon I might want to do :). And once I get one more state done I can officially join the 50 state marathon club - of course I have a long ways to go to become a finisher.
This was the first marathon I traveled to by myself which was ok but I definitely prefer going to them with my family or with friends. I have a friend down to 4 states to go - all out East and I'm hoping to go on a road trip with her to a race next year. It's getting harder to travel with my family though as my oldest is now in high school and I really don't want to pull her out of school too much.
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I have some smartwool socks for winter running that i like.
I'd much rather run in cold weather than heat also and prefer training for spring marathons over fall marathons too because of that. I'm not crazy about ice but have yaktraks I use on the roads and got some microspikes to use on the trails last winter (didn't get to use them much with an injury - looking forward to more winter runs with those this season).
https://darntough.com/collections/mens-running-socks
They're pricey, but well worth it.
Got a pair from each of these. I'll report back as the winter continues and let you guys know which was more effective!
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Got a pair from each of these. I'll report back as the winter continues and let you guys know which was more effective!
Hope they work well for you and Happy Winter Running!
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Anybody have a good winter running sock recommendation?
I use my light weight smartwool over-the-calf ski socks. They otherwise only get used a few days per year for skiing. I will run in temps as low as -22C with just those and Salomon Snowcross running boots... and I'll walk in same down to -30C. Have never had cold feet. Below -30C, out come the Sorels.
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Anecdotal and it's not freezing temps yet but for the current last fall temps I'm giving the edge to the Smartwool over Darntough. I'll let you all know how it goes once we get to the 20s and 10s but for the 30s and 40s Smartwool's winning (plus sustainability yay!)
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I had a nice run this morning with temps in the mid 50's - might be the last run - back to November reality tomorrow though with a forecasted high of 32.
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Ran the Rock N Roll Half Marathon in Nashville today. Beat my goal time. Those who said it would be hilly were not lying.
I was originally planning on doing the full but switched distances. Couldn’t properly train with the wedding and honeymoon in the past couple of months. But with the rolling hills I’m happy that I decide to switch.
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Ran the Rock N Roll Half Marathon in Nashville today. Beat my goal time. Those who said it would be hilly were not lying.
I was originally planning on doing the full but switched distances. Couldn’t properly train with the wedding and honeymoon in the past couple of months. But with the rolling hills I’m happy that I decide to switch.
Congrats! That race came up in conversation during a group run today. One guy ran it a few years back and said quite a few people running the marathon dropped out after 13.1. Said the rolling hills got the best of many (temps and humidity were an issue, also). I need to run the 1/2 one of these years. Looked into it the past couple years but they were cancelled.
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Ran the Rock N Roll Half Marathon in Nashville today. Beat my goal time. Those who said it would be hilly were not lying.
I was originally planning on doing the full but switched distances. Couldn’t properly train with the wedding and honeymoon in the past couple of months. But with the rolling hills I’m happy that I decide to switch.
Congrats! That's my hometown, and I certainly wouldn't want to run that one.
Seattle is pretty brutal as well.
Don't they make it more of a country music-themed race? Who was your big act?
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Ran the Rock N Roll Half Marathon in Nashville today. Beat my goal time. Those who said it would be hilly were not lying.
I was originally planning on doing the full but switched distances. Couldn’t properly train with the wedding and honeymoon in the past couple of months. But with the rolling hills I’m happy that I decide to switch.
Congrats on the half today!
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Congrats! That's my hometown, and I certainly wouldn't want to run that one.
Seattle is pretty brutal as well.
Don't they make it more of a country music-themed race? Who was your big act?
I don’t think there was a big act unless I completely missed it. There was a post-race concert and some bands along the route, but none I’d heard of. Mix of country, rock and blues music. The route was great other than the hills
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Looks like I found my spring marathon - Easter weekend in Newport, RI. A friend of mine is down to 4 states to go and is going to do that one so I think I'll join her. Only 41 more to go for me ;D
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Looks like I found my spring marathon - Easter weekend in Newport, RI. A friend of mine is down to 4 states to go and is going to do that one so I think I'll join her. Only 41 more to go for me ;D
Afternoon delight planned, hey?
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Looks like I found my spring marathon - Easter weekend in Newport, RI. A friend of mine is down to 4 states to go and is going to do that one so I think I'll join her. Only 41 more to go for me ;D
Newport is a very cool city. Go check out the Breakers if you have some time.
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Since surgery on July 13, I finally got the (partial) OK to commence running. I have a ramp up walk with run mixed-in program that increases the running weekly.
Don't tear your meniscal root!
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Since surgery on July 13, I finally got the (partial) OK to commence running. I have a ramp up walk with run mixed-in program that increases the running weekly.
Don't tear your meniscal root!
Sorry you've been out of commission for so long. Hope the return to running goes ok.
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Since surgery on July 13, I finally got the (partial) OK to commence running. I have a ramp up walk with run mixed-in program that increases the running weekly.
Don't tear your meniscal root!
How are things going so far for you?
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How are things going so far for you?
I haven't tried yet between crappy weather, no motivation to get up a half hour earlier in the morning to try the treadmill, and a sore right knee which apparently is nothing of concern after seeing my Ortho doctor on Monday. It's actually better here on Friday but not sure will have time this weekend between Saturday's 0 degree temps and Sunday taking the kid back to school.
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How is running going for everyone? I had a not so great 4 mile run today but it was nice to get out and run in 40 degree temperatures as it's supposed to get colder again tomorrow. I have the choice this weekend to either run 13 miles on the road or do a trail run for at least 2.5 hours. I went for a trail run this past weekend but it was a tough run. My next marathon is on 4/16 in Rhode Island.
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How is running going for everyone? I had a not so great 4 mile run today but it was nice to get out and run in 40 degree temperatures as it's supposed to get colder again tomorrow. I have the choice this weekend to either run 13 miles on the road or do a trail run for at least 2.5 hours. I went for a trail run this past weekend but it was a tough run. My next marathon is on 4/16 in Rhode Island.
Ran five outside yesterday which was a nice change from treadmill. No marathons planned but a couple half marathons scheduled in April. They are Covid deferrals for local races, looking to get those out of the way and then will start looking for the next race to travel to.
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How is running going for everyone? I had a not so great 4 mile run today but it was nice to get out and run in 40 degree temperatures as it's supposed to get colder again tomorrow. I have the choice this weekend to either run 13 miles on the road or do a trail run for at least 2.5 hours. I went for a trail run this past weekend but it was a tough run. My next marathon is on 4/16 in Rhode Island.
First time training for a Spring marathon. Quickly realized the treadmill is just not for me. Fortunately, the cold doesn’t bother me too much once I get going. I’ve figured out how to dress for the conditions. Also, lack of snow/clear pavement has been a God send. Another positive is the running group I’m part of. Makes the longer runs much more tolerable with a group. Overall, feel training in the winter has made these months go by much faster.
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First time training for a Spring marathon. Quickly realized the treadmill is just not for me. Fortunately, the cold doesn’t bother me too much once I get going. I’ve figured out how to dress for the conditions. Also, lack of snow/clear pavement has been a God send. Another positive is the running group I’m part of. Makes the longer runs much more tolerable with a group. Overall, feel training in the winter has made these months go by much faster.
One of the reasons I love where I winter - perfect running conditions: dry sunny, and 55-60 degrees.
Now if I could only get my hip tendon to stop irritating my sciatic nerve when I run, I would be all set.
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One of the reasons I love where I winter - perfect running conditions: dry sunny, and 55-60 degrees.
Now if I could only get my hip tendon to stop irritating my sciatic nerve when I run, I would be all set.
Have you tried dry needling? My PT is recommending it for some nerve stuff I have going on and I'm... tentative.
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Ran five outside yesterday which was a nice change from treadmill. No marathons planned but a couple half marathons scheduled in April. They are Covid deferrals for local races, looking to get those out of the way and then will start looking for the next race to travel to.
Yeah the treadmill is my last resort - I much prefer running outside. Good luck with training for the half marathons.
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First time training for a Spring marathon. Quickly realized the treadmill is just not for me. Fortunately, the cold doesn’t bother me too much once I get going. I’ve figured out how to dress for the conditions. Also, lack of snow/clear pavement has been a God send. Another positive is the running group I’m part of. Makes the longer runs much more tolerable with a group. Overall, feel training in the winter has made these months go by much faster.
I prefer spring marathons to fall marathons as I prefer winter training over spring training. Good luck with your training.
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One of the reasons I love where I winter - perfect running conditions: dry sunny, and 55-60 degrees.
Now if I could only get my hip tendon to stop irritating my sciatic nerve when I run, I would be all set.
Hope you figure out something for this so you can run without pain.
Have you tried dry needling? My PT is recommending it for some nerve stuff I have going on and I'm... tentative.
I did dry needling for a hamstring injury and I found it to be very helpful.
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I did dry needling for a hamstring injury and I found it to be very helpful.
Appreciate it. It seems like it's far enough on the medicine side of quackery that I'll give it a go.
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Appreciate it. It seems like it's far enough on the medicine side of quackery that I'll give it a go.
Hope it helps you.
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Running check-in time.
My next marathon is 3 weeks from yesterday - yikes :). I got off track with my plan a bit last week with a family vacation for spring break - still ran but didn't do the speed work or the long run I was supposed to do. Back to the regular plan this week - have a half-marathon on Saturday and am going to add on miles before and after to get in more distance also. My last long run was a why do I run marathons kind of run :) so this next full should be interesting. The good news is I have no time goal - just doing it to get another state in.
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Running check-in time.
My next marathon is 3 weeks from yesterday - yikes :). I got off track with my plan a bit last week with a family vacation for spring break - still ran but didn't do the speed work or the long run I was supposed to do. Back to the regular plan this week - have a half-marathon on Saturday and am going to add on miles before and after to get in more distance also. My last long run was a why do I run marathons kind of run :) so this next full should be interesting. The good news is I have no time goal - just doing it to get another state in.
Are you running South Shore?
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Are you running South Shore?
Yes - have to get my ugly gloves to use for my marathon discard gloves :). Well that's not the reason I'm doing it but I do like using the gloves from that race for that purpose. It's a well priced half I enjoy running. Although the weather forecast doesn't look the greatest - reminding me of the year it snowed for it when I did it - want to say that was 2016.
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Yes - have to get my ugly gloves to use for my marathon discard gloves :). Well that's not the reason I'm doing it but I do like using the gloves from that race for that purpose. It's a well priced half I enjoy running. Although the weather forecast doesn't look the greatest - reminding me of the year it snowed for it when I did it - want to say that was 2016.
I was thinking about signing up for South Shore if we got some unseasonably warm weather next weekend, but doesn’t look like we’ll be so lucky. Good luck.
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I’m considering signing up for it. Never have ran that race but run that area multiple times per week. Knows lots of people running it. My plan has me running 12 so it would work perfectly. I’m just worried that I’ll get caught up in the race and start pushing it when I’m suppose to keep an easy pace. Few minor pains have flared up this week.
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I finally started the walk-run-walk-run part of my rehab last week, albeit on my treadmill but better than nothing. I made it up again this Monday morning before work, so that's a good continuation.
One plus week in, it's going to be a slower ramp up than I was hoping, but at least it finally involves actual running.
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I’m considering signing up for it. Never have ran that race but run that area multiple times per week. Knows lots of people running it. My plan has me running 12 so it would work perfectly. I’m just worried that I’ll get caught up in the race and start pushing it when I’m suppose to keep an easy pace. Few minor pains have flared up this week.
Yeah it can be tough to pace yourself sometimes but I've got the go slow down thing down pat now :). It's a fun 1/2 to do and they have some good beer afterwards usually too as I recall. I have to run some miles before and after though so I'll likely miss the beer this year. I'm supposed to try to negative split for the race - we will see how that goes.
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My goal for tomorrow's half was originally going to be negative splits - the goal now is to stay upright :). The weather forecast is not looking so great for tomorrow morning...
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My goal for tomorrow's half was originally going to be negative splits - the goal now is to stay upright :). The weather forecast is not looking so great for tomorrow morning...
Still contemplating signing up tomorrow morning and running it but perhaps knocking my miles out before the system rolls in is a better decision. Leaning towards being a spectator. Being out those trail shoes! Ha The weather might make it a memorable race!
Negative splits runs have become my fav.
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Still contemplating signing up tomorrow morning and running it but perhaps knocking my miles out before the system rolls in is a better decision. Leaning towards being a spectator. Being out those trail shoes! Ha The weather might make it a memorable race!
Negative splits runs have become my fav.
Well the good news is I picked up my packet tonight and I like the long sleeve t-shirt they added this year and I now have my throw away gloves for my upcoming marathon with their ugly gloves :). I think it was 2016 that it was snowing and slick roads for this race - this forecast is reminding me of that day.
Negative splits always intimidate me to think about but I have had been able to do it most of the time.
I'm technically supposed to run 20 tomorrow but am guessing I'll end up with 15 most likely. A friend and I are meeting to run 2 miles before the race and I am having trouble finding motivation to run any additional miles on my own after the race :).
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Fan…how’d it go? Weather cooperated for the first 90 minutes.
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Fan…how’d it go? Weather cooperated for the first 90 minutes.
The first part was great. I think I was around 7 miles in when it started precipitating. The last 3 miles the snow was coming down pretty good and it wasn’t so pleasant. I was pretty wet and cold after the race. Negative splits didn’t quite happen but I was able to raise my HR the last half. Now I just have to run twice as far two weeks from today - hopefully it won’t snow for that race 😀
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The first part was great. I think I was around 7 miles in when it started precipitating. The last 3 miles the snow was coming down pretty good and it wasn’t so pleasant. I was pretty wet and cold after the race. Negative splits didn’t quite happen but I was able to raise my HR the last half. Now I just have to run twice as far two weeks from today - hopefully it won’t snow for that race 😀
You definitely ran past me yesterday (I stayed until just about everyone had passed) as I set up shop on bench behind the condos/apartments in Saint Francis. Got a little chilly sitting there.
You’ve probably mentioned in a previous post but what marathon are you running in 2 weeks? Enjoy a couple easier training weeks and have a great race!
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You definitely ran past me yesterday (I stayed until just about everyone had passed) as I set up shop on bench behind the condos/apartments in Saint Francis. Got a little chilly sitting there.
You’ve probably mentioned in a previous post but what marathon are you running in 2 weeks? Enjoy a couple easier training weeks and have a great race!
I was kind of wishing I'd taken advantage of the early start at 8:15A - you didn't qualify for awards if you did that but I wasn't going to win any awards anyway. But it's good practice for marathons which may have bad weather also of course.
I'm going out to Newport, RI for a marathon there. A good friend of mine has about 5 states to go and is doing that one so I decided to go and do that one also. She's traveling with some family and I'm going on my own but I will see her out there of course. This will be state number 10 assuming all goes ok :).
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Good friend, hey?
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I was kind of wishing I'd taken advantage of the early start at 8:15A - you didn't qualify for awards if you did that but I wasn't going to win any awards anyway. But it's good practice for marathons which may have bad weather also of course.
I'm going out to Newport, RI for a marathon there. A good friend of mine has about 5 states to go and is doing that one so I decided to go and do that one also. She's traveling with some family and I'm going on my own but I will see her out there of course. This will be state number 10 assuming all goes ok :).
We will both be taking out talents to the east coast next weekend. Only state #3 for me (only my 3rd marathon). I sure hope the weather is an upgrade from the rut we are stuck in here.
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We will both be taking out talents to the east coast next weekend. Only state #3 for me (only my 3rd marathon). I sure hope the weather is an upgrade from the rut we are stuck in here.
Are you running Boston? I just don’t want snow 😀
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Signed up for the Indianapolis Mini Marathon next month. Easy drive to knock off a state. Not sure if I'm going to stick with the 50 state race goal but it's a good way to get out of Milwaukee for a weekend.
Looking for a fall marathon. As of now, leaning towards Twin Cities. Has anyone completed that one? If so, how was your experience?
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Signed up for the Indianapolis Mini Marathon next month. Easy drive to knock off a state. Not sure if I'm going to stick with the 50 state race goal but it's a good way to get out of Milwaukee for a weekend.
Looking for a fall marathon. As of now, leaning towards Twin Cities. Has anyone completed that one? If so, how was your experience?
I’m also leaning towards the TC this Fall. I’ve never ran the full but have done the 10-miler many times (same day as the marathon and , I believe, is the last 10 miles of the marathon). Just have to prepare for a never-ending slight incline up Summit Ave ~miles 22-25. I’ve also ran on my own around the lakes that are part of the route. Beautiful area.
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Signed up for the Indianapolis Mini Marathon next month. Easy drive to knock off a state. Not sure if I'm going to stick with the 50 state race goal but it's a good way to get out of Milwaukee for a weekend.
Indy includes a loop around the race track, no?
Talked to someone last weekend that is also running the Indy mini.
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Are you running Boston? I just don’t want snow 😀
I am. Sifting through the logistics. With the later starting time for Boston, I thought I’d be able to sleep in a bit. Nope, need to board the shuttle for the start line 3 hours before my start time. 🤷🏻♂️
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Signed up for the Indianapolis Mini Marathon next month. Easy drive to knock off a state. Not sure if I'm going to stick with the 50 state race goal but it's a good way to get out of Milwaukee for a weekend.
Looking for a fall marathon. As of now, leaning towards Twin Cities. Has anyone completed that one? If so, how was your experience?
Different race but I ran the Indianapolis Marathon in November 2018 - have nver done the Indy Mini-Marathon - good luck!
I haven't done the Twin Cities Marathon before but have heard good things about it. I kind of wish I'd done that for my MN marathon instead of Grandma's Marathon.
I have to figure out what my fall marathon is going to be yet - will probably start thinking more about it after next weekend.
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I am. Sifting through the logistics. With the later starting time for Boston, I thought I’d be able to sleep in a bit. Nope, need to board the shuttle for the start line 3 hours before my start time. 🤷🏻♂️
Oh wow - logistics like that is where my nightmares about missing the start of races come from :) . That's great that you are running Boston - I'll never be able to qualify but I'm ok with being a slow runner with endurance :) .
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Fan…safe travels and have a great race!
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Indy includes a loop around the race track, no?
Talked to someone last weekend that is also running the Indy mini.
Ran the Indy Marathon about 10 years ago this November. Morning cold gave way to a steady drizzle which eventually turned to sleet. And the course didn’t include a loop around the track. To say I was relieved when I saw the finish line in the distance would be a major understatement.
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Ran the Indy Marathon about 10 years ago this November. Morning cold gave way to a steady drizzle which eventually turned to sleet. And the course didn’t include a loop around the track. To say I was relieved when I saw the finish line in the distance would be a major understatement.
I’ve been pretty fortunate with race day weather. I’ve heard many say the miserable ones remain the most memorable.
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I’ve been pretty fortunate with race day weather. I’ve heard many say the miserable ones remain the most memorable.
I have been incredibly lucky as well. I think the worst one was rain at the Chicago marathon in 2018. But it wasn’t coming down too hard and the temperature was fine.
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I have been incredibly lucky as well. I think the worst one was rain at the Chicago marathon in 2018. But it wasn’t coming down too hard and the temperature was fine.
It rained most of Lakefront 2016 but was actually great running weather in my opinion as it wasn’t too cold and it wasn’t a downpour. It was worse for my family watching me that day.
Weather looks great for me tomorrow - low of 40 and high of 56. And it should be around 50 by the time the race starts. I’ll start with a long sleeve shirt but plan on discarding that during the race - found the perfect one to bring as it has a hole in it.
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I am. Sifting through the logistics. With the later starting time for Boston, I thought I’d be able to sleep in a bit. Nope, need to board the shuttle for the start line 3 hours before my start time. 🤷🏻♂️
How did Boston go?
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How did Boston go?
Boston was a great experience. The near perfect weather conditions definitely played a role in that. Not many flat portions on the course; rolling hills throughout with a lot of downhills. There were 2 challenging inclines: one of the Newton hills and heartbreak. Turning onto Boylston for the final portion of the race was amazing. Crowd support adds so much to the experience.
Didn’t have a time goal going in to the race but felt good after 5 miles (granted, those miles were mostly downhill) so I decided to push it a bit. Ended up with a PR and a BQ for ‘23.
There were some hiccups with the logistics. Longish wait for for shuttles to start line and then the bus driver getting lost but all worked out in the end.
Fan…how was the RI experience?
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Indy includes a loop around the race track, no?
Talked to someone last weekend that is also running the Indy mini.
You do run on the track at Indy. Not a complete lap, but close enough. Its tough, especially if the sun is beating down on you, the track heats up quick. Be sure to stop and kiss the yard of bricks.
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You do run on the track at Indy. Not a complete lap, but close enough. Its tough, especially if the sun is beating down on you, the track heats up quick. Be sure to stop and kiss the yard of bricks.
You might be referring to the 1/2 marathon that goes onto the track.
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You might be referring to the 1/2 marathon that goes onto the track.
Yes. Banana asked about the mini.
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Yes. Banana asked about the mini.
Ah, yes, sorry. Skimming too quickly. Ran the mini about 10 years ago.
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Boston was a great experience. The near perfect weather conditions definitely played a role in that. Not many flat portions on the course; rolling hills throughout with a lot of downhills. There were 2 challenging inclines: one of the Newton hills and heartbreak. Turning onto Boylston for the final portion of the race was amazing. Crowd support adds so much to the experience.
Didn’t have a time goal going in to the race but felt good after 5 miles (granted, those miles were mostly downhill) so I decided to push it a bit. Ended up with a PR and a BQ for ‘23.
There were some hiccups with the logistics. Longish wait for for shuttles to start line and then the bus driver getting lost but all worked out in the end.
Fan…how was the RI experience?
Wow - that's very impressive with a PR and another BQ qualifying time. Glad the logistics issues weren't too bad for you.
I had fun on the trip and finished state 10 and those were my main goals I have to remind myself :). I don't like to carry water with me during races and am normally ok but there wasn't enough water out there especially the first part of the second half of the race and I got a tad dehydrated. I will have to consider carrying water with me next marathon. The course was a lot more scenice in the first half but I kind of liked the second half better with only the marathon runners there. It was a little hard to literally run right by the finish line and go back out for the 2nd half. I gave a quick passing thought to just making it a 1/2 but I knew I'd be really mad at myself if I had done that. It was my slowest marathon to date but I kept reminding myself I didn't have a time goal.
I had never been to RI before and Newport was gorgeous. I really enjoyed walking along the cliff walk there and checking out some old mansions. I stayed at the same hotel my friend going had picked out and while it wasn't cheap, the price wasn't outrageous and it was super close to the start and finish which was really nice. It took us less than 5 minutes to walk to the start. I found some good beers to try while I was out there so that was good.
One thing I wasn't crazy about was they started the 1/2 15 minutes after the full so that meant I had people much faster than me trying to pass me in the first half. I wish they had both started at the same time since they followed the same course for the first 13.1 of the marathon.
Now to figure out what the fall marathon will be...
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Ah, yes, sorry. Skimming too quickly. Ran the mini about 10 years ago.
No worries. The wife and I ran the mini about a dozen times before kids. She still runs it, but I cant do the training. I say it's my knees are shot.
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The marathon I ran in November returned to its normal April race date this past weekend - the Garmin marathon in Olathe, KS. And they misplaced a cone on the course and the course ended up short. So it can't count as a Boston qualifier or for those trying to complete the 50 states. I feel so bad for the people who traveled in just to do a marathon in Kansas. And this is a fear of mine when I travel to other states for marathons.
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The marathon I ran in November returned to its normal April race date this past weekend - the Garmin marathon in Olathe, KS. And they misplaced a cone on the course and the course ended up short. So it can't count as a Boston qualifier or for those trying to complete the 50 states. I feel so bad for the people who traveled in just to do a marathon in Kansas. And this is a fear of mine when I travel to other states for marathons.
That is very unfortunate and happened in Milwaukee maybe 6-7 years ago. But if I were going for 50 states I would absolutely count it!
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That is very unfortunate and happened in Milwaukee maybe 6-7 years ago. But if I were going for 50 states I would absolutely count it!
I think the course was short in 2017. It was long when I ran it in 2016 (then the Milwaukee Running Festival) - they said it was at least 1/2 mile long and my watch registered 26.92 miles and I joke that was my first and only ultra :). I'm pretty sure the following year the course was short.
There's an official club for the 50 states marathon and by their rules it doesn't count when the course is short like that.
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Failed Milwaukee marathon talk reminded me of a rumor I heard recently. The Lakefront Marathon (Grafton -> Mke) could be moved into and around Milwaukee this year if permits can be obtained. Perhaps a one-year thing because of construction along the normal route.
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Failed Milwaukee marathon talk reminded me of a rumor I heard recently. The Lakefront Marathon (Grafton -> Mke) could be moved into and around Milwaukee this year if permits can be obtained. Perhaps a one-year thing because of construction along the normal route.
At least the Lakefront Marathon is a well run race - that was my first Marathon in 2015 and I ran it again in 2016. I did the first two years of the Milwaukee Running Festival (changed their name to the Milwaukee Marathon after that) and it was a night and day difference with how the races were orgranized.
Lakefront does one of my favorite things that I haven't seen in many other marathons either -they give you a little bag to carry your food in afterwards - important for me when my hands aren't working real well after races :). I had to ask a volunteer to open a gear check bag for me after one race because I just couldn't do it...
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Decided to mix thing up a bit and start doing some trail running. Went to Lapham Peak over the weekend. Bit off more than I could chew; walking once I hit a hill at mile 2. Stating the obvious but trails are an entire different beast.
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Decided to mix thing up a bit and start doing some trail running. Went to Lapham Peak over the weekend. Bit off more than I could chew; walking once I hit a hill at mile 2. Stating the obvious but trails are an entire different beast.
They are quite different but I got into trail running in 2020 when my races were getting canceled and discovered how much I love it. I went to Nashotah this morning to do a trail run and it was just what I needed mentally. I'll be back there on Saturday for a 10K and probably hating myself for signing up for that 10K :). There are some bad hills on that course I think and I believe it's 2 loops so I can do those hills twice.
I call trail running my happy place - I don't worry about pace and just really enjoy myself mentally during the trail runs.
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The Indy Mini is a good race. Flat, lots of fanfare. Running on the 500 track was cool.
But driving 5 hours for a half only to have your results track incorrectly is frustrating.
Edit: Once I figured out the problem, the race directors were incredibly quick to respond. Other than that small snafu, the race was great.
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The Indy Mini is a good race. Flat, lots of fanfare. Running on the 500 track was cool.
But driving 5 hours for a half only to have your results track incorrectly is frustrating.
Edit: Once I figured out the problem, the race directors were incredibly quick to respond. Other than that small snafu, the race was great.
A few friends of mine ran it, also. Haven’t heard any feedback yet.
I’m contemplating the Indy marathon in November.
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Free advice: Pace makes the race.
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I did a trail 10K race at Nashotah Park - plenty of hills to go around in this one :). It was a fun race and I got an age group award - I won't mention how many people were in my age group :).
I'm feeling a little lost 3 weeks out from the last marathon with no fall marathon(s) picked out for sure yet. I'm running into a lot of date conflicts right now.
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I did a trail 10K race at Nashotah Park - plenty of hills to go around in this one :). It was a fun race and I got an age group award - I won't mention how many people were in my age group :).
I'm feeling a little lost 3 weeks out from the last marathon with no fall marathon(s) picked out for sure yet. I'm running into a lot of date conflicts right now.
I’m planning on heading out to Nashotah for the first time tomorrow.
I’ve also yet to pull the trigger on a fall race.
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I’m planning on heading out to Nashotah for the first time tomorrow.
I’ve also yet to pull the trigger on a fall race.
I enjoy running at Nashotah although I did get pretty lost one of the first times I ran there - I was so happy to see the dog park finally that day as then I knew where I was :).
I have a marathon I think I'm going to do in December that will also be a family trip but trying to figure out if I can fit in another marathon in September or October also.
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A few friends of mine ran it, also. Haven’t heard any feedback yet.
I’m contemplating the Indy marathon in November.
It was a good time. A lot of fun entertainment along the route. Hope they enjoyed!
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A few friends of mine ran it, also. Haven’t heard any feedback yet.
I’m contemplating the Indy marathon in November.
I ran the Indy Marathon in November of 2018 - it was a great race.
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I ran the Indy Marathon in November of 2018 - it was a great race.
Indy was my final marathon (2012). I struggled (age, weather, etc.) but the course was nice and the event well run.
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I ran the Indy Marathon in November of 2018 - it was a great race.
Question for you from a purely interest standpoint. What makes a great race? Genuinely curious as an outsider to the running world
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Question for you from a purely interest standpoint. What makes a great race? Genuinely curious as an outsider to the running world
1. Safe course: keeping vehicles and non-runners off the course.
2. Well marked. I’ve gotten sidetracked a few times when the course didn’t clearly indicate where to turn. (Bourbon Chase in Kentucky in 2016 I was with a dozen runners that all turned too late onto a dead end road. The correct path had no indication whatsoever where to turn.
3. Along with the above I would include ample volunteers showing the way, so to speak. Manning the difficult places to see where to go.
4. Interesting/well laid out course. Rather not double back on a section that I just ran.
5. Beer at the finish line.
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1. Safe course: keeping vehicles and non-runners off the course.
2. Well marked. I’ve gotten sidetracked a few times when the course didn’t clearly indicate where to turn. (Bourbon Chase in Kentucky in 2016 I was with a dozen runners that all turned too late onto a dead end road. The correct path had no indication whatsoever where to turn.
3. Along with the above I would include ample volunteers showing the way, so to speak. Manning the difficult places to see where to go.
4. Interesting/well laid out course. Rather not double back on a section that I just ran.
5. Beer at the finish line.
Those all sound quite sensible
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6. Flat course
7. Creativity with the goodie bag - shirt that isn't like a million I already have, good snacks, and noteworthy finisher's medal - I got one once that doubled as a bottle opener.
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6. Flat course
Flat makes things a little less challenging but IMO not better. Boston is my favorite for a lot of reasons (bucket list, tradition, unreal and enthusiastic crowd, etc) but it is anything but flat.
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Flat makes things a little less challenging but IMO not better. Boston is my favorite for a lot of reasons (bucket list, tradition, unreal and enthusiastic crowd, etc) but it is anything but flat.
I agree with you - one of my favorite marathons was Flying Pig in Cincinnati. That race is very hilly but I went into it knowing that and trained for that.
I'd add:
-Measure/mark the course correctly. The 2016 Milwaukee Running Festival was no fun when their marathon course was at least 1/2 mile too long and my GPS watch measured 26.9 miles.
-Have enough aide stations and make it easy to get water/energy drink at each station.
-Provide what you promise for the registration fee - if it says mylar blankets are part of the registration, give those out at the end of the race.
-Provide gear check and either provide a decent sized bag to use with that or allow runners to provide their own bag. One marathon I did gave you a small plastic grocery bag - there's not much point to that.
And something the Lakefront Marathon does afterwards that I love and have rarely seen in other marathons is give out a little shopping bag to carry your post race food in. My hands don't work real well after marathons and I still remember at Flying Pig using my mylar blanket to carry the food in - people were asking for empty boxes but volunteers were told not to give them out. And then I struggled to carry my stuff, find my family and open water to drink afterwards.
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Time for a running check in - how is it going for everyone?
Life took some unexpected turns so it looks like my next marathon won't be until at least 2022. I'm a little lost not training for anything and I'm super slow as I haven't been able to run as much as I was in the past and haven't been doing speedwork.
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Not good.
Been running but no where even close to where I was pre-left knee surgery. I was thankfully making slow but some noticeable progress increasing distance. But there had been something in my right knee that doesn't feel right and was hindering more progress. Finally having an MRI on Monday.
After a week of 3 or 4, 2 mile runs the pain in certain positions which was sleeping and driving became too much.
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Not good.
Been running but no where even close to where I was pre-left knee surgery. I was thankfully making slow but some noticeable progress increasing distance. But there had been something in my right knee that doesn't feel right and was hindering more progress. Finally having an MRI on Monday.
After a week of 3 or 4, 2 mile runs the pain in certain positions which was sleeping and driving became too much.
Oh yikes - so sorry to hear that :(. Hope the MRI is helpful to get things better with your knee.
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Oh yikes - so sorry to hear that :(. Hope the MRI is helpful to get things better with your knee.
Visited the orthopedist and the MRI report is not too bad. My right meniscus is all mishmashed up. Simple arthroscopic surgery to clean up will correct.
I would be cleared to walk the next day if I can, but I'm guessing more like 4-5 days of crutches like I saw 8 years ago on my left knee.
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You won't regret it. FWIW, I shoveled 3 inches of snow the evening I had mine cleaned up.
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You won't regret it. FWIW, I shoveled 3 inches of snow the evening I had mine cleaned up.
In 2014 when my left knee had this I was running 5 weeks later. Probably could have run sooner but I listened to the physical therapist and doctor.
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Visited the orthopedist and the MRI report is not too bad. My right meniscus is all mishmashed up. Simple arthroscopic surgery to clean up will correct.
I would be cleared to walk the next day if I can, but I'm guessing more like 4-5 days of crutches like I saw 8 years ago on my left knee.
Well that does sound like a promising prognosis to get you back running relatively soon.
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Lakefront marathon cancelled less that a month out from its scheduled date. I feel awful for all those that have trained all summer. Seems the city wants nothing to do with being a marathon host.
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Lakefront marathon cancelled less that a month out from its scheduled date. I feel awful for all those that have trained all summer. Seems the city wants nothing to do with being a marathon host.
I was so bummed to hear that yesterday. It’s such a great race and yeah it’s awful for those who had planned to run it. And I’m not sure about the future of the race - not sure they’ll ever be able to get permits again.
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How goes running for everyone?
I just signed up for a spring marathon - nice to have another goal in place after having not run a marathon since April of this year.
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I'm getting there post-summer 2021 left knee surgery. I'm definitely making progress. I had surgery again on my other knee at the end of September. Meniscus tear. I was back running 10 days later. The good news is I get more PT from insurance and the Physical Therapist is helping build strength in both knees and I'm relieved to see a difference.
I did a 5K on Labor day despite the discomfort in my right knee at the time and did waaaayyy better than I expected. I think it was all adrenaline pushing me on.
I'm doing a Christmas 5K Dec 4 that is longtime sponsored by a New Haven bar/restaurant. It's known for a great after race party.
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Ran the Madison Marathon last weekend. Good race, thoroughly enjoyed it until the last few miles when the aches set in. It was 25-30 degrees but calm winds and clear skies. Not bad at all after the first couple miles.
It probably wasn’t as hilly as Nashville, but the combination of cold and hills made it a bit more challenging.
Looking for a spring marathon. Cincinnati Flying Pig and Grandma’s Marathon are the two favorites. Has anyone run either?
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I'm getting there post-summer 2021 left knee surgery. I'm definitely making progress. I had surgery again on my other knee at the end of September. Meniscus tear. I was back running 10 days later. The good news is I get more PT from insurance and the Physical Therapist is helping build strength in both knees and I'm relieved to see a difference.
I did a 5K on Labor day despite the discomfort in my right knee at the time and did waaaayyy better than I expected. I think it was all adrenaline pushing me on.
I'm doing a Christmas 5K Dec 4 that is longtime sponsored by a New Haven bar/restaurant. It's known for a great after race party.
Sounds like your recovery is progressing pretty well - good to hear. I like the sounds of the great after race party :)
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Ran the Madison Marathon last weekend. Good race, thoroughly enjoyed it until the last few miles when the aches set in. It was 25-30 degrees but calm winds and clear skies. Not bad at all after the first couple miles.
It probably wasn’t as hilly as Nashville, but the combination of cold and hills made it a bit more challenging.
Looking for a spring marathon. Cincinnati Flying Pig and Grandma’s Marathon are the two favorites. Has anyone run either?
Glad to hear that the Madison Marathon went well.
I have run both those marathons - did the Flying Pig in 2016 and Grandma's in 2018. I liked Flying Pig a lot better. Grandma's had been hyped a lot to me and it just didn't live up to the hype. I didn't like the point to point - I got on the train plenty early and still was much shorter on time at the start before the race than I'd like. The hotels majorly price gouge and most required a two night stay which made it very expensive to go with my family - I have heard dorms in Duluth are a good cheaper option if that works for you. Duluth was a really cool place to visit though.
Flying Pig started near Paul Brown Stadium when I did it (it's called something else now but I can't remember the name). You could use the restrooms inside there before the start and then there were port-o-lets in each corral too. There is a ton of crowd support and lots of fun themed aide stations. I actually liked this race better than the Chicago Marathon. It is very hilly but I knew that coming into the race and trained for it and handled that ok. I can't speak to lodging arrangements as I grew up in Cincy and stayed with family. I also thought it was a very well run race. I'm not repeating marathons right now as I'm trying to do marathons in other states but this is one I'd love to do again someday.
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On average, how often are you going through shoes/replacing shoes? Let’s say they are getting daily high level use to give a number.
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On average, how often are you going through shoes/replacing shoes? Let’s say they are getting daily high level use to give a number.
I got $120 aesics for my bday in early April. The heels are already worn to the plastic 😒 that's without anything over 5mi this summer too.
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On average, how often are you going through shoes/replacing shoes? Let’s say they are getting daily high level use to give a number.
I buy two pairs at a time and alternate runs. Not using them back to back days will increase the amount of mileage you can put on them. They need about 24 hours to "recover" after a run.
I usually get about 300 miles out of a pair, but I replace sooner than I need to.
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On average, how often are you going through shoes/replacing shoes? Let’s say they are getting daily high level use to give a number.
. The recommendation by shoe experts is that you should get 300-500 miles on a pair of shoes. Of course there are many variable such as whether you alternate your shoes or not, run on roads or trails, how heavy of a runner you are, how injury prone you are, etc. On my Strava app it keeps track of the mileage I have on each of my shoes (provided I remember to list which shoes I ran in that day), so I don't really need to think about it. I have Strava notify me when I have 400 miles on a pair of shoes and then I start thinking about replacing them. Some shoes I can get up to 500-550 miles on and others, only about 400-450. I am thankfully not injury prone and since I am only running about 25 miles a week, one pair lasts me for about 5 months.
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On average, how often are you going through shoes/replacing shoes? Let’s say they are getting daily high level use to give a number.
I use the Runkeeper App and it counts miles on the shoes and gives a graph so you know they are close to replacing.
I'm sure other run Apps do the same.
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On average, how often are you going through shoes/replacing shoes? Let’s say they are getting daily high level use to give a number.
I try to get 500 miles out of mine but I'm not the best all the time at keeping track how many miles each have. I own two pairs of road running shoes and one pair of trail running shoes. I haven't found a way with my Garmin to track two different pairs of shoes. I started off well when I got new Hoka's earlier this year writing down each run but that didn't last real long.
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How is running going for everyone?
I just completed marathon 14 overall in state 11 on Sunday in St. Louis. I woke up sick the day before so it was a tad challenging and very slow :(. But I accomplished the main goal of finishing it and getting another state done. I signed up to do a marathon in Nebraska in early May now - will use the training for the STL one as my base. And this is my 2020 redo tour I guess as I was signed up to run both of these marathons that year before everything shut down.
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How is running going for everyone?
I just completed marathon 14 overall in state 11 on Sunday in St. Louis. I woke up sick the day before so it was a tad challenging and very slow :(. But I accomplished the main goal of finishing it and getting another state done. I signed up to do a marathon in Nebraska in early May now - will use the training for the STL one as my base. And this is my 2020 redo tour I guess as I was signed up to run both of these marathons that year before everything shut down.
Glad to see you’re making up for the lost time Covid took from us.
Back out to Boston for me next weekend. Big crew (runners and spectators) from the running group heading out. Should be a fun weekend.
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Glad to see you’re making up for the lost time Covid took from us.
Back out to Boston for me next weekend. Big crew (runners and spectators) from the running group heading out. Should be a fun weekend.
Thanks.
Good luck and have fun at the Boston Marathon. It sounds like it would be a great experience.
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I entered the lottery for NYC but wasn’t selected. Thinking the fall back will end up being Twin Cities.
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I entered the lottery for NYC but wasn’t selected. Thinking the fall back will end up being Twin Cities.
Sorry you didn’t get into the NY marathon. I have heard good things about the Twin Cities marathon.
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I entered the lottery for NYC but wasn’t selected. Thinking the fall back will end up being Twin Cities.
I also had no luck with the NY lotto. I need to find a way to cut off quite a few minutes off my marathon time to get into NY.
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I somehow managed to complete State 12 and marathon 15 overall in Lincoln Nebraska today. The heat was brutal and it was a very difficult run. I think the only thing that got me to the finish line was if traveled 500 miles to get another state in and didn’t want to be mad at myself later for failing to finish. By far the worst conditions for any marathon I’ve ever run.
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Congrats on knocking out state #12. Impressive work grinding through those conditions. Any other states signed up for to tackle once you’ve revcovered from Nebraska?
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Congrats on knocking out state #12. Impressive work grinding through those conditions. Any other states signed up for to tackle once you’ve revcovered from Nebraska?
Thanks.
Nothing planned yet but I hope to do 1-2 more yet this year. Fall gets hard logistically for me because of some family commitments- there are about 5 marathons I’d be interested in that fall on an October weekend that doesn’t work for me.
This is the first time since 2019 that I’ve run at least two marathons and kind of cool to think there’s still time for fit in more this year.
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Anyone here dabbled in trail running? I went out to support some friends running the Ice Age 50, yesterday. Slightly intrigued but my inability to make it around a Lapham Peak loop without lots of walking is holding me back.
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Anyone here dabbled in trail running? I went out to support some friends running the Ice Age 50, yesterday. Slightly intrigued but my inability to make it around a Lapham Peak loop without lots of walking is holding me back.
I hadn’t until 2020 when I got into it when all races were canceled. I love to run on the IAT and run at Lapham Peak, Nashotah Park and Minooka Park sometimes. I haven’t done a lot of trail races though - just a few at Nashotah and Minooka.
I just did a 6 mile trail run at the Scuppernong trails this morning and it was great. Lots of hills but it’s an incredible mental release for me to do a trail run. I do get scared sometimes about getting hurt - I’ve had my fair share of falls but have been fortunate to not get hurt with the falls.
I did buy trail running shoes once I got more into trail running.
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Did 11mi yesterday, farthest run since 2011. Doing the Lifetime Half Marathon in a couple weeks hoping I can build on that to do the Phoenix marathon.
How's everyone's training going?
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I can run two miles without stopping. I know, to most in this thread that's no major accomplishment. However, I'm in my 50s now and haven't been out there in a long time. I have been running twice a week and will be out there again this week. Maybe in the next few weeks I will run further, or up my routine to three times a week. if nothing else, it should give me more stamina for my Monday night pick-up basketball games. Why the sudden interest in running, you ask (and even if you didn't ask I'm gonna tell you)? My daughter is running cross country in HS this year and watching her and her friends is so much fun. It reminds me of my earlier days of running 5Ks and half marathons (that's the longest I have ever run). Now my daughter reports her mileage to me: Dad I ran 7.2 today. I respond: I logged 2.0. it's great. Loving my new found passion for running. And to be clear, part of my inspiration has been following along with you guys in this thread. I won't be logging a lot of miles, or running very fast, but I will be out there.
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Did 11mi yesterday, farthest run since 2011. Doing the Lifetime Half Marathon in a couple weeks hoping I can build on that to do the Phoenix marathon.
How's everyone's training going?
Made the mistake of trying to PR in a half marathon and marathon a month apart. Half marathon was a success, but I'm running the Chicago Marathon in four weeks and I definitely feel my legs crashing around mile 15-16 right now because I was focused on pace and shorter runs for most of the summer.
Hoping I can make up some ground in the next month. Should be a great experience either way.
Phoenix/Mesa is a fun race. It starts early and the logistics can be painful, but other than a two mile stretch (maybe miles 4-6?) it's almost entirely downhill. Starting up in the mountains is kind of cool.
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I can run two miles without stopping. I know, to most in this thread that's no major accomplishment. However, I'm in my 50s now and haven't been out there in a long time. I have been running twice a week and will be out there again this week. Maybe in the next few weeks I will run further, or up my routine to three times a week. if nothing else, it should give me more stamina for my Monday night pick-up basketball games. Why the sudden interest in running, you ask (and even if you didn't ask I'm gonna tell you)? My daughter is running cross country in HS this year and watching her and her friends is so much fun. It reminds me of my earlier days of running 5Ks and half marathons (that's the longest I have ever run). Now my daughter reports her mileage to me: Dad I ran 7.2 today. I respond: I logged 2.0. it's great. Loving my new found passion for running. And to be clear, part of my inspiration has been following along with you guys in this thread. I won't be logging a lot of miles, or running very fast, but I will be out there.
SoCal
I didn’t start running until I was in my early 50s. Until my mid 40s I had stayed in OK shape playing flag football, pick up basketball and softball. Six or seven years followed where I did almost nothing. I decided to try running, initially with little success - one mile was my max and my pace was slow. But over time it became a passion. I ran 5ks, 10ks and marathons, including Boston at age 62 in 2010. I’ll turn 75 next week and still run 3-5 miles 3 times a week purely for enjoyment. Wherever your new found love of running takes you I wish you good luck and good health.
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Thanks, LT. I appreciate your kind words.
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That's great SoCal. Keep up with it. You'll eventually be able to add days and mileage.
Both my kids did Cross Country. This one invitational in Rhode Island their school partook in had an open race to start the invitational that my wife and I had to run once.
I've been running 40 years since age 13 when I started in Cross Country.
I was doing 2-3 days a week last summer in my surgery recoup period and was getting discouraged and I'd never thought I'd get back to where I was but made great strides this summer and am finally getting close to where I was before the injury.
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The weather in the midwest this time of year can make you feel like a superhero. 50 degree temps in the morning I barely break a sweat ;)
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Just like BM, I’m training for Chicago.
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SoCal and Lenny,
I think you two got me motivated to get back into running. I am 60 and have two fake hips but picked up running for about a five year period prior to my 50th and couple years after that and enjoyed it . I never was very good, but I enjoyed doing 5k's, 10ks's and a half marathon. Actually, have been looking for motivation to get back at it and you guys might have provided the nudge I needed.
Thanks, guys.
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I can run two miles without stopping. I know, to most in this thread that's no major accomplishment. However, I'm in my 50s now and haven't been out there in a long time. I have been running twice a week and will be out there again this week. Maybe in the next few weeks I will run further, or up my routine to three times a week. if nothing else, it should give me more stamina for my Monday night pick-up basketball games. Why the sudden interest in running, you ask (and even if you didn't ask I'm gonna tell you)? My daughter is running cross country in HS this year and watching her and her friends is so much fun. It reminds me of my earlier days of running 5Ks and half marathons (that's the longest I have ever run). Now my daughter reports her mileage to me: Dad I ran 7.2 today. I respond: I logged 2.0. it's great. Loving my new found passion for running. And to be clear, part of my inspiration has been following along with you guys in this thread. I won't be logging a lot of miles, or running very fast, but I will be out there.
That's great that your daughter running cross country has inspired you :). My oldest daughter is in her 3rd year of HS cross country and I love it. I so enjoy running to different spots to cheer on my daughter and her teammates. My daughter runs JV but I enjoy watching her Varsity teammates run also.
Good luck with your running.
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SoCal and Lenny,
I think you two got me motivated to get back into running. I am 60 and have two fake hips but picked up running for about a five year period prior to my 50th and couple years after that and enjoyed it . I never was very good, but I enjoyed doing 5k's, 10ks's and a half marathon. Actually, have been looking for motivation to get back at it and you guys might have provided the nudge I needed.
Thanks, guys.
Goose - this is the perfect time of the year to start a running program - lots of good days before the snow falls. Best of luck!
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Despite having Covid this past week and testing negative Friday I managed to finish the half marathon today. 2nd longest non treadmill run 3rd longest ever.
2:15 about 10min longer than my training pace but was being conservative after Covid.
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Congrats, Galway.
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Any of your runners or medical/PT folks have any experience with piriformis syndrome? It's when your piriformis muscle is tight and irritates the sciatic nerve.
For me, running makes it worse. Would stretching before running help, or should I give up the idea of taking up running again?
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Despite having Covid this past week and testing negative Friday I managed to finish the half marathon today. 2nd longest non treadmill run 3rd longest ever.
2:15 about 10min longer than my training pace but was being conservative after Covid.
You finished the Half, nice work!
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Any of your runners or medical/PT folks have any experience with piriformis syndrome? It's when your piriformis muscle is tight and irritates the sciatic nerve.
For me, running makes it worse. Would stretching before running help, or should I give up the idea of taking up running again?
Don't know much about the piriformis, but Rico takes medication that could inflame the perineum.
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Probably too old to run, hey?
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Any of your runners or medical/PT folks have any experience with piriformis syndrome? It's when your piriformis muscle is tight and irritates the sciatic nerve.
For me, running makes it worse. Would stretching before running help, or should I give up the idea of taking up running again?
Don't you get enough running in fending off Glow now that he is home all the time?
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Don't know much about the piriformis, but Rico takes medication that could inflame the perineum.
ohhh, so that's why he has trouble communicating, public speaking and the like. may also explain why he is always so depressed
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Any of your runners or medical/PT folks have any experience with piriformis syndrome? It's when your piriformis muscle is tight and irritates the sciatic nerve.
For me, running makes it worse. Would stretching before running help, or should I give up the idea of taking up running again?
These guys aren't coming at the idea of piriformis syndrome from the perspective of running (obvious as they are "Squat University") but they're absolutely legitimate purveyors of biomechanic information and exercise form. This is like a super short video they did on pirifomis syndrome, and even though it's not directly addressing your question, it does have some information on addressing the syndrome. You could give the stretches/exercises they cite a shot (or research them further) and see if it helps?
good luck
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CjNVntB2rpI
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Running thread don’t need it
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Any of your runners or medical/PT folks have any experience with piriformis syndrome? It's when your piriformis muscle is tight and irritates the sciatic nerve.
For me, running makes it worse. Would stretching before running help, or should I give up the idea of taking up running again?
I don't know about doctor stuff, but my piriformis gets tight from running. I do dynamic stretching before runs (stretch, hold for 3 seconds, relax, repeat 10x) and include a piriformis stretch in there. After a run I do more static stretching, and teh one that really gets my piriformis is what I know as pigeon pose from yoga.
I'm trying to get back into running after a series of back/foot injuries, and my PT has been helping me through the weekly hurdles. If you're looking for an explicit recommendation mine would be to find a PT you trust and love, schedule weekly appointments, then when you start running take your gripes to them so that they can help you through the pain. Once I had a diagnosed thing it wasn't easy to just exercise through it, at least not easy like it was in my 20s.
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Don't know much about the piriformis, but Rico takes medication that could inflame the perineum.
ohhh, so that's why he has trouble communicating, public speaking and the like. may also explain why he is always so depressed
Nobody:
You guys: "let's hijack a peaceful thread for athletes to make sure our personal fights with other posters are front and center!"
Come on unless you're upset he outran you keep it elsewhere.
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Nobody:
You guys: "let's hijack a peaceful thread for athletes to make sure our personal fights with other posters are front and center!"
Come on unless you're upset he outran you keep it elsewhere.
Sadly, quite a few have forgotten the first rule of scoop:
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Kiptum shattered the WR in Chicago today, finishing the course in 2:00:35. He almost broke the 2:00 barrier in only his 3rd marathon ever. Averaged a 4:35 mile.
How long before he breaks the 2:00 mark?
Impressive.
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Kiptum shattered the WR in Chicago today, finishing the course in 2:00:35. He almost broke the 2:00 barrier in only his 3rd marathon ever. Averaged a 4:35 mile.
How long before he breaks the 2:00 mark?
Impressive.
At 23 years old, too. Have to think he'll keep improving over the next few years.
Three marathons, three wins, three of the top six times ever. Crazy how good he's been.
I ran Chicago yesterday as well. It was cool to be part of the race where the world record was set, even if that record will likely be broken in the near future. Conditions were great for fast times and it's a pretty flat course.
Looking forward to taking a break from distance training for a few months.
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At 23 years old, too. Have to think he'll keep improving over the next few years.
Three marathons, three wins, three of the top six times ever. Crazy how good he's been.
I ran Chicago yesterday as well. It was cool to be part of the race where the world record was set, even if that record will likely be broken in the near future. Conditions were great for fast times and it's a pretty flat course.
Looking forward to taking a break from distance training for a few months.
I ran it also. Agree with everything you said. The conditions played a big role helping me shatter my goal.
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Congrats 1090 and hammock - well done!
I concur on your thoughts re the Chicago Marathon - flat, and when the weather’s good, fast. And running through all the neighborhoods is fun.
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Congrats you both! I hope to do it next year!
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Congrats to both of you on the race. I'm currently trying to get back into race shape. Every time I get out of shape it is harder than the last time to get back.
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I ran it also. Agree with everything you said. The conditions played a big role helping me shatter my goal.
Thanks, all!
I was able to PR by a significant amount too. Part of that is due to changes I made in my training but like you said, most of it was due to the conditions. Couldn't imagine a better day for a marathon. Usually I'm dumping water over my head by mile 18 or so to cool myself down. No need for that on Sunday.
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Kiptum shattered the WR in Chicago today, finishing the course in 2:00:35. He almost broke the 2:00 barrier in only his 3rd marathon ever. Averaged a 4:35 mile.
How long before he breaks the 2:00 mark?
Impressive.
I believe that running a marathon in a world class time is quite possibly the most impressive athletic accomplishment. That is running an entire 26+ miles at a average pace that is faster than the top speed on my treadmill -- a speed that even if I hit it, I can only sustain very briefly. And they do that for two hours. What percentage of humans that have ever existed could run even one 4:35 mile, much less string 26+ together?
It is an utterly astounding athletic feat.
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Thanks, all!
I was able to PR by a significant amount too. Part of that is due to changes I made in my training but like you said, most of it was due to the conditions. Couldn't imagine a better day for a marathon. Usually I'm dumping water over my head by mile 18 or so to cool myself down. No need for that on Sunday.
While the conditions helped, your hard work and training is why you succeeded. Congrats on the PR!
I also changed my training plan in hopes of qualifying for NY and the new program paid dividends.
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While the conditions helped, your hard work and training is why you succeeded. Congrats on the PR!
I also changed my training plan in hopes of qualifying for NY and the new program paid dividends.
I'm nowhere near qualifying for NYC yet. Best chance is probably maintaining or slightly improving my current pace over the next 20 years.
Assuming you qualified, congratulations!! Huge accomplishment.
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I believe that running a marathon in a world class time is quite possibly the most impressive athletic accomplishment. That is running an entire 26+ miles at a average pace that is faster than the top speed on my treadmill -- a speed that even if I hit it, I can only sustain very briefly. And they do that for two hours. What percentage of humans that have ever existed could run even one 4:35 mile, much less string 26+ together?
It is an utterly astounding athletic feat.
I happen to think that me getting two consecutive birdies (something only accomplished twice) is the most impressive athletic accomplishment. But hey, potato potahto!
Seriously, this was the 20th anniversary of my wife's only marathon. She trained like crazy for 6 months and then completed the Chicago course in 3:59:35 - beating her 4-hour goal. When I told her about this year's winner almost breaking the 2-hour mark, she was stunned.
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There are a lot of incredible human feats. Running a marathon in 2 hours is certainly one of them. Free soloing El Cap is another. For anyone who hasn't watched "Free Solo," you should definitely look into it. Absolute insanity.
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Running does not take that much talent in terms of skill.
I would go with world-class gymnasts for most impressive athletic performance.
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Running does not take that much talent in terms of skill.
I would go with world-class gymnasts for most impressive athletic performance.
Sport vs sport comparisons are worthless and a waste of time I mean honestly why not just compare a 1920s boxer going >30 rounds in summer heat to a golfer then?
Running a marathon averaging a 4:30 mile is insane.
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There are a lot of incredible human feats. Running a marathon in 2 hours is certainly one of them. Free soloing El Cap is another. For anyone who hasn't watched "Free Solo," you should definitely look into it. Absolute insanity.
Hard to argue with that. If you "slip" off your world class pace in a marathon, you'll be OK. If you "flip" off the face of El Cap...well...
That was a fantastic movie. I hate to say it, but I dread "that" day when I see Honnold's name in the news.
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Anybody here run in Hokas? Or tried them and gone back to a more conventional running shoe? I've heard awesome things and am thinking about making the switch, but am a bit worried there is too much support in that sole. I was thinking about maybe the distance version - the Mach 5 - not because I do tons of distance (most runs are 3-4ish miles) but more because the sole seems a better balance between support but not too squishy?
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Running does not take that much talent in terms of skill.
I would go with world-class gymnasts for most impressive athletic performance.
Just so I'm clear, I can think of many things that require more talent and skill than running a marathon. Gymnastics is a great example and very high on the list of demanding the most talent, skill, and sheer physical accomplishment. Other things that require more skill and talent than running a marathon: hitting a curveball; throwing a curveball; hitting a golf ball; a 360-windmill dunk; boxing. Honestly, most things in sports require more "talent in terms of skill" than running a marathon. But I consider that a completely different subject than what I was talking about as an "athletic feat." Perhaps I should have said "physical feat in sports."
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Anybody here run in Hokas? Or tried them and gone back to a more conventional running shoe? I've heard awesome things and am thinking about making the switch, but am a bit worried there is too much support in that sole. I was thinking about maybe the distance version - the Mach 5 - not because I do tons of distance (most runs are 3-4ish miles) but more because the sole seems a better balance between support but not too squishy?
Been hearing more and more about them. Never worn them myself. I found Brooks Adrenalines work perfectly for my feet and never looked back.
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Anybody here run in Hokas? Or tried them and gone back to a more conventional running shoe? I've heard awesome things and am thinking about making the switch, but am a bit worried there is too much support in that sole. I was thinking about maybe the distance version - the Mach 5 - not because I do tons of distance (most runs are 3-4ish miles) but more because the sole seems a better balance between support but not too squishy?
Tried a pair on before the half marathon (they were the sponsor) didn't care for the way they felt just jogging up and down the parking lot. I did get their recovery sandals which are fantastic after long runs.
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Does anyone have strong opinions on the "energy system" style training? I've heard it described as the "Maffetone Method" or 80-20/90-10 Zone 2 vs Zone 5 training.
Essentially you spend the vast majority of your training time below your anaerobic threshold building a really wide metabolic base and then spend small amounts of time driving your vo2 max. Apparently it's how some elite tour de france cyclists train.
So in practice, you'd be training low and slow (surprisingly low and slow, slow enough that you could have a conversation but wouldn't really want to, per Maffetone it's a surprisingly low BPM, or a 'you can go all day' pace) for 1ish hour training sessions regularly, and then once a week do something like 400 m sprinting repeats or as hard as you can possibly go for a 4 minute stretch, then recover for as long as it takes to be able to go that hard again for 4 minutes, repeat 4-6 times.
For me, I can set the treadmill incline to 12% and 3.5 mph and lock my heart rate in pretty solidly in that go all day pace. I then keep the incline and increase the speed to about 4.5 mph and by the end of 4 minutes I'm dying and my heart rate is about as high as I can get it.
Anyway, reading about this method was kinda a revelation because I always considered running in the dumbest bro-iest way imaginable: Want to run far fast? Go run far as fast as you can. This, unsurprisingly, does not seem to be a smart way to train.
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Been hearing more and more about them. Never worn them myself. I found Brooks Adrenalines work perfectly for my feet and never looked back.
I've been running in Brooks Adrenalines the last 5 years (whatever the latest release is). Over the years I've tried Saucony then different Brooks, then Mizuno, before settling on a Brooks Adrenaline.
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Anybody here run in Hokas? Or tried them and gone back to a more conventional running shoe? I've heard awesome things and am thinking about making the switch, but am a bit worried there is too much support in that sole. I was thinking about maybe the distance version - the Mach 5 - not because I do tons of distance (most runs are 3-4ish miles) but more because the sole seems a better balance between support but not too squishy?
I actually picked up a pair of Mach 5s 2 days ago. I would describe them as bouncy, bigger overall feel than my Brooks Ghost pair, but verryy light and supportive at the same time. I run about 3 times a week for 3 miles each. I also tried the Hoka Rincons but those were even bouncier. I need a lil road feel ya know
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I've been using Brooks Hyperion Tempos for the last few years. Very breathable, lightweight. Big fan. I'll probably use them for another year now that they are cheaper and then figure out a newer model that works for me.
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Anybody here run in Hokas? Or tried them and gone back to a more conventional running shoe? I've heard awesome things and am thinking about making the switch, but am a bit worried there is too much support in that sole. I was thinking about maybe the distance version - the Mach 5 - not because I do tons of distance (most runs are 3-4ish miles) but more because the sole seems a better balance between support but not too squishy?
I used the Mach 5s for my longer training runs. I found them very comfortable. Wore the Saucony Endorphin Speeds for track/ speed work. For my last 2 marathons, I wore the Hoka Rocket x2 (Joka’s super shoe).
I plan to try on the Hoka Mach X; they seem comparable to the Endorphin Speeds.
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Does anyone have strong opinions on the "energy system" style training? I've heard it described as the "Maffetone Method" or 80-20/90-10 Zone 2 vs Zone 5 training.
Essentially you spend the vast majority of your training time below your anaerobic threshold building a really wide metabolic base and then spend small amounts of time driving your vo2 max. Apparently it's how some elite tour de france cyclists train.
So in practice, you'd be training low and slow (surprisingly low and slow, slow enough that you could have a conversation but wouldn't really want to, per Maffetone it's a surprisingly low BPM, or a 'you can go all day' pace) for 1ish hour training sessions regularly, and then once a week do something like 400 m sprinting repeats or as hard as you can possibly go for a 4 minute stretch, then recover for as long as it takes to be able to go that hard again for 4 minutes, repeat 4-6 times.
For me, I can set the treadmill incline to 12% and 3.5 mph and lock my heart rate in pretty solidly in that go all day pace. I then keep the incline and increase the speed to about 4.5 mph and by the end of 4 minutes I'm dying and my heart rate is about as high as I can get it.
Anyway, reading about this method was kinda a revelation because I always considered running in the dumbest bro-iest way imaginable: Want to run far fast? Go run far as fast as you can. This, unsurprisingly, does not seem to be a smart way to train.
I've done something like this and several of my peers have. We all had discovered we really didn't have an aerobic zone. We used the want to run far fast...run as far and as fast as you can method, which led to two zones...rest, and redline.
Training with some version of the Maffetone method created a robust aerobic zone, which slowly got faster over time.
Haven't ran a race though after using that training method, so not sure how much it helped with race time, it did help with fewer injuries, and soreness though.
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Anyone else running the Milwaukee marathon this April? Just signed up because I have a life conflict that'll prevent me from training hard for Chicago this fall.
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Anyone else running the Milwaukee marathon this April? Just signed up because I have a life conflict that'll prevent me from training hard for Chicago this fall.
I may do the half. I typically run a full in fall, use the last few months of the year to rest physically, then ramp up training in January for a spring half. Then train throughout the summer for a full, which sucks but usually results in better times once the weather cools.
I'm also hesitant to do the Milwaukee Marathon with all the issues they've had in the past. But unless you're trying to qualify for something it doesn't matter too much.
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Anyone else running the Milwaukee marathon this April? Just signed up because I have a life conflict that'll prevent me from training hard for Chicago this fall.
I prefer to stay away from this race with all their issues. I'm also considering doing a marathon in Kentucky at the end of April.
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How is running going for everyone?
It felt good to get outside again this week for some good runs. I ran 14 today - my first 10+ mile run in almost 6 months (got hurt in September). I'm signed up for a couple spring marathons so I have a couple goals now which is good - I feel lost without a running goal :)
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How is running going for everyone?
It felt good to get outside again this week for some good runs. I ran 14 today - my first 10+ mile run in almost 6 months (got hurt in September). I'm signed up for a couple spring marathons so I have a couple goals now which is good - I feel lost without a running goal :)
Running 3-4 times a week, 3-5 miles per at an easy 9:30 per mile pace. No races planned, no goals other than staying somewhat in shape.
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5 times per week but only 10-20 minutes at a time. That’s all I can muster on the treadmill. Doing a lot more strength training until the weather gets a bit better.
But it’s that time of the year that I will start looking for a spring half. So that’s exciting.
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Running 4x a week, spent 5 weeks establishing a baseline pace of about 8:45 for the Milwaukee marathon. Finished week 1 of 12 today with a 6mi run. Adding weight lifting & PT this go round has kicked my as$.
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Does anybody have a running stroller recommendation? Is the Thule actually worth it compared to just a Bob? I'm not going to set a world record but would like something that moves relatively easily.
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Running 4x a week, spent 5 weeks establishing a baseline pace of about 8:45 for the Milwaukee marathon. Finished week 1 of 12 today with a 6mi run. Adding weight lifting & PT this go round has kicked my as$.
will this be your first marathon?
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Does anybody have a running stroller recommendation? Is the Thule actually worth it compared to just a Bob? I'm not going to set a world record but would like something that moves relatively easily.
Galway,
If you were close enough to Connecticut, I'd give you the choice of the single runner or double runner (2 kids) running stroller. Actually both if you like. They've been sitting in my garage for years wondering what to do with them since I can't donate.
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will this be your first marathon?
Yes sir! Very pumped.
Galway,
If you were close enough to Connecticut, I'd give you the choice of the single runner or double runner (2 kids) running stroller. Actually both if you like. They've been sitting in my garage for years wondering what to do with them since I can't donate.
Given how much they can cost it'd almost be worth it for me to drive out there and get it!
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Galway,
If you were close enough to Connecticut, I'd give you the choice of the single runner or double runner (2 kids) running stroller. Actually both if you like. They've been sitting in my garage for years wondering what to do with them since I can't donate.
Nothing to add about running strollers 😀 but wanted to mention I’m running a marathon in CT next month - in West Haven.
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Nothing to add about running strollers 😀 but wanted to mention I’m running a marathon in CT next month - in West Haven.
I live in the next town over and my high school was located in West Haven and I never knew that had a marathon. I googled and it must be the Savin Rock marathon. I looked at the course map and West Haven is flat by the shoreline and looks like you will have to go up a hill when it'll be level until going downhill by the shoreline.
I've done several 5k's on the West Haven boardwalk that go 1.5 miles down and 1.5 miles back and a strong wind will be in your face and propelling you on the way back.
Have fun. Should be OK weather in late March.
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I live in the next town over and my high school was located in West Haven and I never knew that had a marathon. I googled and it must be the Savin Rock marathon. I looked at the course map and West Haven is flat by the shoreline and looks like you will have to go up a hill when it'll be level until going downhill by the shoreline.
I've done several 5k's on the West Haven boardwalk that go 1.5 miles down and 1.5 miles back and a strong wind will be in your face and propelling you on the way back.
Have fun. Should be OK weather in late March.
Yes that’s the race I’m doing. It sounded like it would be a bit hilly. They offer an early start for slower runners like me that I plan to take advantage of. A friend who has only a few states left to get to 50 signed up for it and I decided to do it also. I’ve done mostly Midwest states - this will only be the second marathon I fly for. I’ve done 12 states so far.
I’m also signed up for a marathon in Louisville in late April.
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Yes that’s the race I’m doing. It sounded like it would be a bit hilly. They offer an early start for slower runners like me that I plan to take advantage of. A friend who has only a few states left to get to 50 signed up for it and I decided to do it also. I’ve done mostly Midwest states - this will only be the second marathon I fly for. I’ve done 12 states so far.
I’m also signed up for a marathon in Louisville in late April.
I’m also signed up for a marathon in Louisville in late April.
Good luck! I thought I was crazy for planning two in one year, back to back is wild! Do you give yourself any time to recover after the first?
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Yes that’s the race I’m doing. It sounded like it would be a bit hilly. They offer an early start for slower runners like me that I plan to take advantage of. A friend who has only a few states left to get to 50 signed up for it and I decided to do it also. I’ve done mostly Midwest states - this will only be the second marathon I fly for. I’ve done 12 states so far.
I’m also signed up for a marathon in Louisville in late April.
New England is very hilly for running in general and not the slow rolling kind.
Not that you probably want to eat after the marathon, but there is very good old school New England seafood restaurant right on the water called Stowe's. They also carry Foxon Park beverages (soda) which means you can get a birch beer (soda) with your meal.
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Good luck! I thought I was crazy for planning two in one year, back to back is wild! Do you give yourself any time to recover after the first?
I’ve done marathons 4 and 5 weeks apart three times and it’s gone fine. I did it last year with two spring marathons 5 weeks apart. I usually take at least 5 days off after the first marathon and last spring I did a 10 mile long run 2 weeks post marathon and 17 miles 3 weeks post marathons (my plan called for 15-20 miles for that run).
I know people who have run marathons one week apart and even on back to back days - I don’t think I could do that.
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New England is very hilly for running in general and not the slow rolling kind.
Not that you probably want to eat after the marathon, but there is very good old school New England seafood restaurant right on the water called Stowe's. They also carry Foxon Park beverages (soda) which means you can get a birch beer (soda) with your meal.
Thanks. I seldom partake in much food or beer right after the races. But I do like to go to a restaurant and indulge a bit after I get cleaned up. And part of the fun of this journey for me is trying different local beers after the race 😀
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I’ve done marathons 4 and 5 weeks apart three times and it’s gone fine. I did it last year with two spring marathons 5 weeks apart. I usually take at least 5 days off after the first marathon and last spring I did a 10 mile long run 2 weeks post marathon and 17 miles 3 weeks post marathons (my plan called for 15-20 miles for that run).
I know people who have run marathons one week apart and even on back to back days - I don’t think I could do that.
Wow, nice work! that makes me less concerned about my choices haha.
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I'm in full taper mode and 'only' had to run 9 miles for my long run this week :). The weather isn't looking the greatest for race day but nothing I can do about that. I'm getting excited about running my first marathon in almost a year - I ran marathons last April and May but none in the fall last year.
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I'm in full taper mode and 'only' had to run 9 miles for my long run this week :). The weather isn't looking the greatest for race day but nothing I can do about that. I'm getting excited about running my first marathon in almost a year - I ran marathons last April and May but none in the fall last year.
Kick ass and good luck!
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Kick ass and good luck!
Thanks :)
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Very sad that Kenyan runner died.
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Got to 18mi a week and a half ago and at about 12.5mi my knee just gave out with sharp pain. Haven't done any lifting, or running since then. About to try to get back out there today to finish my last training week strong before I start my taper.
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Got to 18mi a week and a half ago and at about 12.5mi my knee just gave out with sharp pain. Haven't done any lifting, or running since then. About to try to get back out there today to finish my last training week strong before I start my taper.
Happened to me when I was training for my first one too. I'd definitely recommend trying to get back out there but don't push it if there's a decent amount of pain. Rest and save it for race day.
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Happened to me when I was training for my first one too. I'd definitely recommend trying to get back out there but don't push it if there's a decent amount of pain. Rest and save it for race day.
Wasn't too bad in terms of today, I managed 7.02mi at 9:10/mi but definitely didn't feel "right". Will try to keep my remaining runs more casually paced till race day. Shooting for an 3:50ish time.
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Marathon 16 and State 13 done today in Connecticut. It was a tough one with heavy rain for the whole race. Happy to have this one done.
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Marathon 16 and State 13 done today in Connecticut. It was a tough one with heavy rain for the whole race. Happy to have this one done.
Congrats!
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Congrats!
Thanks
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Marathon 16 and State 13 done today in Connecticut. It was a tough one with heavy rain for the whole race. Happy to have this one done.
Awesome!
Sorry about my local weather with the Noreaster today..
I hope it was flat enough near the Sound.
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Anyone hear of the Barkley Marathon? Sounds like a pretty grueling ultra marathon, but it apparently starts when the main dude lights up his Marlboro. I might kinda dig it
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Awesome!
Sorry about my local weather with the Noreaster today..
I hope it was flat enough near the Sound.
Thanks. It was two loops - miles 1-4 are relatively flat and then you have 5 miles with hills - some rolling and some bigger. And then relatively flat the rest of the way. The two loops like of helped as I knew what to expect for hills in the second half.
It’s a small race and I heard a number of people dropped out or dropped down to the half. I had no one to follow at times and went down the wrong road for a little bit around mile 14 - oops 😂
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NYC lottery in two days. Don’t want to book a fall marathon until I hear if I get in, even if that’s unlikely.
I think I’m deciding between Portland, OR and Portland, ME (Maine Marathon).
Has anyone run either?
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NYC lottery in two days. Don’t want to book a fall marathon until I hear if I get in, even if that’s unlikely.
I think I’m deciding between Portland, OR and Portland, ME (Maine Marathon).
Has anyone run either?
Good luck with the lottery!
I haven’t run either of those states yet.
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NYC lottery in two days. Don’t want to book a fall marathon until I hear if I get in, even if that’s unlikely.
I think I’m deciding between Portland, OR and Portland, ME (Maine Marathon).
Has anyone run either?
Portland, ME is very cool!
But I have not run there so cannot comment.
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Portland, ME is very cool!
But I have not run there so cannot comment.
Endorse. Great city.
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NYC lottery in two days. Don’t want to book a fall marathon until I hear if I get in, even if that’s unlikely.
I think I’m deciding between Portland, OR and Portland, ME (Maine Marathon).
Has anyone run either?
Good luck in the lottery!
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Just completed my shakeout run before tomorrow. Despite the injury still shooting for sub 4 (goal is 3:55)
What a road it's been building up from 1 mile just to increase my pace from what I did the half at last fall.
Ran 342.94 miles in training
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Just completed my shakeout run before tomorrow. Despite the injury still shooting for sub 4 (goal is 3:55)
What a road it's been building up from 1 mile just to increase my pace from what I did the half at last fall.
Ran 342.94 miles in training
Looks like a great weather forecast. Good luck tomorrow!
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Nephew doing the London Marathon this weekend. It is the last of the eight World's he hasn't completed. 2:42 in last year's Boston.
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Ran a sub 2hr half (1hr 50), maintained my pace through to 15mi where I completely fell off. I think the week and a half lost in training (especially the 15mi & 21 mi long runs) really hit hard there.
All the same I ran my first marathon 4:30. After years of Boxing, Hurling, Lacrosse, Hockey and wrestling I can say without a doubt this was the most pain I'd even been in.
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Ran a sub 2hr half (1hr 50), maintained my pace through to 15mi where I completely fell off. I think the week and a half lost in training (especially the 15mi & 21 mi long runs) really hit hard there.
All the same I ran my first marathon 4:30. After years of Boxing, Hurling, Lacrosse, Hockey and wrestling I can say without a doubt this was the most pain I'd even been in.
Congrats on pushing through and completing your first marathon!