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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Eye on April 04, 2020, 10:49:26 AM
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Former Louisville player Marques Maybin has a talk show and started one of those Facebook things where you have 15 dollars and get to pick a starting 5. Thought that might be fun to do for MU. Because Maybin's Louisville list looks like it went back about 25 years, that's what I decided to go with for MU. Without a ton of thought on who should cost how much, and I almost certainly missed someone that should be included, here's what I came up with.
5 - Wade, Crowder, Diener, McNeal, Howard
4 - Butler, Novak, Hayward, Matthews, Hutchins
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Hauser
2 - Jackson, Crawford, Rowsey, Blue, Eford,
1 - Pieper, Buycks, J Wilson, McCaskill, Henry.
What'd be your starting lineup?
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Wade, Crowder, Jackson, Vander, Buycks
Correct answer.
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Wade, Jackson, Henry, Crowder, Rowsey
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Henry, Wade, Butler, Novak, McCaskill
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Wade, Crowder, Jackson, Vander, Buycks
Correct answer.
You need a shooter
I'd go Wade, Butler, DJO, Jackson, Buycks
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You need a shooter
I'd go Wade, Butler, DJO, Jackson, Buycks
There’s just enough shooting. Crowder, Vander and Dwight can all shoot it. But that is our weakness.
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PG: Howard
CG: Blue
CG: Wade
F: Crawford
C: McCaskill
I really debated going with a true PG like Henry or Buycks over Vander but I think Markus with Vander and Wade would be able to handle the point and not force his usual turnovers while still be able to play off the ball with the other guards also handling. Vander and Wade being able to get the rim at will would open up a ton of looks for Markus and Crawford as well as a stretch 4. Add good ol' 00 and you have nice interior D and rebounding. All in all a good crop of guys to pick from.
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Where’s Jim at?
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Wes, Butler, Hauser, Blue, Jackson.
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Where’s Jim at?
I was about to include him, but graduated 26 years ago
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I was about to include him, but graduated 26 years ago
Yeah, that’s a good point. Move along, nothing to see here.
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Wade, Jackson, Henry, Crowder, Rowsey
Henry is a good pick. I couldn’t pick a one year freshman over all the others though.
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PG - Markus Howard (5)
SG - Dwyane Wade (5)
SF - Vander Blue (2)
PF - Jamil Wilson (1)
C - Rob Jackson (2)
Two first team All-Americans in the backcourt, two solid defenders from an Elite Eight team on the wings, and arguably the best center of the last 25 years in the middle.
That said...no Davante Gardner?
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Goin small
Wade 5
Hayward 4
DJO 3
Blue 2
Wilson 1
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PG - Markus Howard (5)
SG - Dwyane Wade (5)
SF - Vander Blue (2)
PF - Jamil Wilson (1)
C - Rob Jackson (2)
Two first team All-Americans in the backcourt, two solid defenders from an Elite Eight team on the wings, and arguably the best center of the last 25 years in the middle.
That said...no Davante Gardner?
Jamil Wilson?
Davante couldn’t defend a lick.
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Wade, Henry, butler Jackson hauser
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Yeah Jamil doesn’t belong
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Jamil Wilson? Over Butler, James, McNeal, Novak, etc??? No way.
Davante couldn’t defend a lick.
I'm going to guess you don't understand how this works ;D
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Wade
Crowder
James
Wilson
McCaskill
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Which Jackson we talking, cause if it’s Marcus, I don’t need a PG.
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Which Jackson we talking, cause if it’s Marcus, I don’t need a PG.
I laughed.
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Yeah Jamil doesn’t belong
Totally with you.
His best year he was under 12 pts, 6 rebounds, and 3 assists. No way. So many ahead of him.
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Gardner just missed Brew. One of the first guys I crossed off the list when doing a quick double check. Threw away the list at work earlier this morning. Last guy might have come down to Pieper and Gardner.
Wouldn't argue one bit if someone in Jack Berry Joker's Wild style went off the board for a 1 dollar pick.
Also debated making Wade 6 dollars just so someone would try and come up with a team without Wade.
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Traci Carter
Duane Wilson
Sandy Cohen
Sam Hauser
Joey Hauser
Small ball baby
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Traci Carter
Duane Wilson
Sandy Cohen
Sam Hauser
Joey Hauser
Small ball baby
What are you going to do with your remaining 8 dollars?
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I'm going to guess you don't understand how this works ;D
Thanks Brew. I need to read a little closer apparently
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Gardner just missed Brew. One of the first guys I crossed off the list when doing a quick double check. Threw away the list at work earlier this morning. Last guy might have come down to Pieper and Gardner.
Wouldn't argue one bit if someone in Jack Berry Joker's Wild style went off the board for a 1 dollar pick.
Also debated making Wade 6 dollars just so someone would try and come up with a team without Wade.
Vander is a bargain!
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Would you switch Blue with any of the 15 above him Hutch?
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Would you switch Blue with any of the 15 above him Hutch?
Yep, actually with all due respect to my all time MU favorite, I’d give Vander a $4 value and Hutchins $2
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Would you switch Blue with any of the 15 above him Hutch?
Your list and players is very good though I think.
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Probably be heavy disagreement, but I think Luke Fischer belongs at $1 or $2. Yes, I know he was foul prone, but he could play.
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Traci Carter
Duane Wilson
Sandy Cohen
Sam Hauser
Joey Hauser
Small ball baby
Due to Wojo being the coach, your team has just now transferred.
Thanks for playing!!!
P.S.
Robert Jackson being only 2 dollars is the biggest steal on the board. Way undervalued here. Should be 4 dollars.
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Same question MD - if you moved Jackson up to 4, who would you move down to 3 and who would you move down to 2?
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Same question MD - if you moved Jackson up to 4, who would you move down to 3 and who would you move down to 2?
Added some players and readjusted a few
5 - Wade, Crowder, Diener, McNeal, Howard
4 - Butler, Novak, Hayward, Matthews, Hutchins
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Hauser
2 - Jackson, Crawford, Rowsey, Blue, Eford,
1 - Pieper, Buycks, J Wilson, McCaskill, Henry.
NEW LIST
5 - Wade, Howard,
4 - Butler, Hayward, Matthews, Jackson, McIlvaine, Crawford, Diener, Tony Smith, McNeal, Crowder,
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Blue, Novak
2 - Rowsey, Eford, Miller, Hauser, McCaskill, Hutchins, Key, Buycks
1 - Pieper, J Wilson, Henry, Lovette, Merrit
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PG: Henry (1)
SG: Wade (5)
SF: Butler (4)
PF: Crowder (4)
C: Merritt (1)
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Added some players and readjusted a few
5 - Wade, Crowder, Diener, McNeal, Howard
4 - Butler, Novak, Hayward, Matthews, Hutchins
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Hauser
2 - Jackson, Crawford, Rowsey, Blue, Eford,
1 - Pieper, Buycks, J Wilson, McCaskill, Henry.
NEW LIST
5 - Wade, Howard,
4 - Butler, Hayward, Matthews, Jackson, McIlvaine, Crawford, Diener, Tony Smith, McNeal, Crowder,
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Blue, Novak
2 - Rowsey, Eford, Miller, Hauser, McCaskill, Hutchins, Key, Buycks
1 - Pieper, J Wilson, Henry, Lovette, Merrit
I appreciate your contrarian and non group think approach, MDDG, but Lovette and Merritt?? Come on.
Tony Smith is 5 years past the cut off.
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I appreciate your contrarian and non group think approach, MDDG, but Lovette and Merritt?? Come on.
Tony Smith is 5 years past the cut off.
Lovette's midrange game was pure. If Ellenson had that, he'd be on a whole different level. ;D ;D ;D
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Lovette's midrange game was pure. If Ellenson had that, he'd be on a whole different level. ;D ;D ;D
He was a nice player, but not in top 25 of last 25 years of the program. I’d put Faisal Abraham ahead of Lovette. Guy was a beast defensively and on the boards.
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Wade, crowder, blue, buyck, Henry is a nutty team
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Are we going with what these players were in college? If so, I think people are overrating Buycks by a pretty good amount. Frankly he’s not close to a top 15 player at MU over the past 25 years.
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Cordell Henry for a dollar? That is a steal.
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Wade
Meminger
Chones
Lee
Lucas
Hey?
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He was a nice player, but not in top 25 of last 25 years of the program. I’d put Faisal Abraham ahead of Lovette. Guy was a beast defensively and on the boards.
I'd agree, but a list isn't good unless there's a tad bit of controversy.
Here's a question: Who'd you rather have...... Ellenson freshman year or Lovette Senior year?
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Diener and Wade...fill in the blanks from there.
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Wade, Novak, DJO, Jackson, Buycks
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Wades - I tried to go with more what they did in college, and more specifically what they did at MU. Probably why I had Jackson a little lower than some others thought. And Buycks was one of the last guys I had in. But kind of hard to keep a guy who had a functional career as a NBA backup for a few years off the list entirely.
Merritt was one of the last few guys I crossed off FWIW. So I had him between 26 and 30. Wouldn't disagree with him being one of the last 5.
As a guy who lives about a half-hours drive from Blair, I'd love to have Lovette on the list. But I'd think he'd be in the 31-35 range.
Farthest I could've gone with the list personally is back to 78-79. 1st MU game I saw in person and remember is December of 78 Classic after just turning 7.
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I'd agree, but a list isn't good unless there's a tad bit of controversy.
Here's a question: Who'd you rather have...... Ellenson freshman year or Lovette Senior year?
I’d take Henry over Lovette any of Lovette’s seasons.
His senior season was ruined by mental health issues sadly as I recall.
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Former Louisville player Marques Maybin has a talk show and started one of those Facebook things where you have 15 dollars and get to pick a starting 5. Thought that might be fun to do for MU. Because Maybin's Louisville list looks like it went back about 25 years, that's what I decided to go with for MU. Without a ton of thought on who should cost how much, and I almost certainly missed someone that should be included, here's what I came up with.
5 - Wade, Crowder, Diener, McNeal, Howard
4 - Butler, Novak, Hayward, Matthews, Hutchins
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Hauser
2 - Jackson, Crawford, Rowsey, Blue, Eford,
1 - Pieper, Buycks, J Wilson, McCaskill, Henry.
What'd be your starting lineup?
Gimme Wade, Jimmy, DJO, Jackson (criminally underrated as a 2) and Cordell Henry.
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If we're taking them at their "MU prime", loan me $1 and I'd take.
Jackson (C)
Butler (PF)
Wade (SF))
Rowsey (SG)
James (PG)
Here's another game - what is the inclusive list of players you could have replaced Todd Townsend with that would have given us a Natty in 2003. I'd say a mortal lock with any of:
Crowder
Howard
Hayward
Butler
Matthews
Hauser
Rowsey
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If we're taking them at their "MU prime", loan me $1 and I'd take.
Jackson (C)
Butler (PF)
Wade (SF))
Rowsey (SG)
James (PG)
Here's another game - what is the inclusive list of players you could have replaced Todd Townsend with that would have given us a Natty in 2003. I'd say a mortal lock with any of:
Crowder
Howard
Hayward
Butler
Matthews
Hauser
Rowsey
How about replacing him with Blankson?
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Wade
Meminger
Chones
Lee
Lucas
Hey?
Bo, GT and Earl T off the bench. Jae, JFB and Markus, too.
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Wade
Crowder
Jackson
Blue
Henry
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Based on this version:
5 - Wade, Howard,
4 - Butler, Hayward, Matthews, Jackson, McIlvaine, Crawford, Diener, Tony Smith, McNeal, Crowder,
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Blue, Novak
2 - Rowsey, Eford, Miller, Hauser, McCaskill, Hutchins, Key, Buycks
1 - Pieper, J Wilson, Henry, Lovette, Merrit
Wade, Butler, Crowder, Rowsey and Jayce for free at the Center.
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Based on this version:
5 - Wade, Howard,
4 - Butler, Hayward, Matthews, Jackson, McIlvaine, Crawford, Diener, Tony Smith, McNeal, Crowder,
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Blue, Novak
2 - Rowsey, Eford, Miller, Hauser, McCaskill, Hutchins, Key, Buycks
1 - Pieper, J Wilson, Henry, Lovette, Merrit
Wade, Butler, Crowder, Rowsey and Jayce for free at the Center.
Full court press, you’re team just lost to DePaul.
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Based on this version:
5 - Wade, Howard,
4 - Butler, Hayward, Matthews, Jackson, McIlvaine, Crawford, Diener, Tony Smith, McNeal, Crowder,
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Blue, Novak
2 - Rowsey, Eford, Miller, Hauser, McCaskill, Hutchins, Key, Buycks
1 - Pieper, J Wilson, Henry, Lovette, Merrit
Wade, Howard, Hutchins, Hauser and Merritt. (Though I’d prefer Barro over Merritt for my last dollar.)
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5 - Wade, Crowder, Diener, McNeal, Howard
4 - Butler, Novak, Hayward, Matthews, Hutchins
3 - James, Wardle, DJO, Ellenson, Hauser
2 - Jackson, Crawford, Rowsey, Blue, Eford,
1 - Pieper, Buycks, J Wilson, McCaskill, Henry.
What'd be your starting lineup?
1: James
2: Wade
3: Blue
4: Ellenson
5: Jackson