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Title: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 30, 2020, 10:43:34 AM
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/29/mac-mcclung-georgetown-guard-enter-2020-nba-draft/

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Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: franklinjerry on March 30, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
So he's entered his name into the NBA Portal?
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: JWags85 on March 31, 2020, 08:19:27 AM
I’m sure the NBA is drooling over volume shooters with a 44% eFG and sparkling 1.3:1 AST ratio who spent a good chunk of the year hurt  :o
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: brewcity77 on March 31, 2020, 08:51:19 AM
I think testing the waters generally can be beneficial and let players know what to work on. This year though I just don't see the benefit. You won't get the same in-person breakdown and evaluation. Obviously McClung isn't close to being a NBA player, I just don't see the benefit.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: GB Warrior on March 31, 2020, 09:03:42 AM
I'm rooting for him. Big JP Macura energy
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: MUeng on March 31, 2020, 09:23:15 AM
Unbelievable athleticism, I'm sure he'll find his way to a roster. Seems like a good guy. Tough job market though, even for him
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Coleman on March 31, 2020, 10:13:43 AM
I hope he stays in college. He is fun to watch, and the only bright spot at Georgetown at the moment
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 31, 2020, 07:52:41 PM
Unbelievable athleticism, I'm sure he'll find his way to a roster. Seems like a good guy. Tough job market though, even for him

Un belivable athleticism for a little white guy.  Far below avergae athleticism for an nba player
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Pakuni on March 31, 2020, 09:05:38 PM
Un belivable athleticism for a little white guy.  Far below avergae athleticism for an nba player

He has plenty of athleticism for the NBA 
Size and shooting on the other hand ...
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 31, 2020, 11:49:52 PM
Is he 6’2” in his moms stiletto heels or barefoot?  Just kidding. He’s the type of guy who’s most annoying when you’re playing against him, but nba?  Not so sure about that. He is a high energy guy though who’ll get in opposing players j-strap
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: WarriorFan on April 01, 2020, 04:49:22 AM
McClung actually reminds me of Diener... but maybe not as good overall as a player, but maybe more athletic.  Diener was a competent NBA player for a while and has had an excellent overall pro career internationally.  I think McClung could have a similar trajectory. 
Fun guy to watch. 
I'd rather have him on my team than the other team!
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: wadesworld on April 01, 2020, 06:36:41 AM
McClung actually reminds me of Diener... but maybe not as good overall as a player, but maybe more athletic.  Diener was a competent NBA player for a while and has had an excellent overall pro career internationally.  I think McClung could have a similar trajectory. 
Fun guy to watch. 
I'd rather have him on my team than the other team!

Diener was 10x the player McClung is. Not as athletic no, but way, way better at basketball. McClung is not an NBA player.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: JWags85 on April 01, 2020, 07:45:43 AM
McClung actually reminds me of Diener... but maybe not as good overall as a player, but maybe more athletic.  Diener was a competent NBA player for a while and has had an excellent overall pro career internationally.  I think McClung could have a similar trajectory. 
Fun guy to watch. 
I'd rather have him on my team than the other team!

Umm what? McClung is a chucker and Diener was a true PG. Diener averaged more assists as a back up Frosh than McClung did as a primary ball handler this year.  And McClung is way more athletic. They are completely different types of players, and like Wades said, McClung is nowhere near the player Diener was
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 01, 2020, 08:00:19 AM
McClung actually reminds me of Diener... but maybe not as good overall as a player, but maybe more athletic.  Diener was a competent NBA player for a while and has had an excellent overall pro career internationally.  I think McClung could have a similar trajectory. 
Fun guy to watch. 
I'd rather have him on my team than the other team!


The are actually pretty much opposites.  Deiner isn't terribly athletic, but fundamentally is very strong and a good shooter.  McClung's strength is that he is athletic.  Teams will have to take a chance that he will put in the work to develop a better shot and better handle. 
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: lawdog77 on April 01, 2020, 08:02:56 AM
McClung actually reminds me of Diener... but maybe not as good overall as a player, but maybe more athletic.  Diener was a competent NBA player for a while and has had an excellent overall pro career internationally.  I think McClung could have a similar trajectory. 
Fun guy to watch. 
I'd rather have him on my team than the other team!
You've been beat up enough on this, so my suggestion is go back and watch the old MU games with Diener.  Diener to me, was a pass first point guard, who just so happened to be able to drain the three. Tough, gritty, and made his teammates a lot better.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: WarriorFan on April 01, 2020, 09:19:36 AM
OK if I get beaten up a bit, that's the fun of message boards.  I admittedly did not look up his stats before posting, and now that I have, I see that his percentages are low.  Nevertheless, I'd still take him on my team at NCAA level, I think he'd be a starter and probably the leading scorer if he was on MU team next year, and I guess the Diener comparisons relate more to toughness and aggressiveness.

In fact, he's probably more like DJO... not big enough to be an NBA 2, and not a good enough PG to be an NBA PG.  Just not quite good enough.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: JWags85 on April 01, 2020, 09:59:16 AM
OK if I get beaten up a bit, that's the fun of message boards.  I admittedly did not look up his stats before posting, and now that I have, I see that his percentages are low.  Nevertheless, I'd still take him on my team at NCAA level, I think he'd be a starter and probably the leading scorer if he was on MU team next year, and I guess the Diener comparisons relate more to toughness and aggressiveness.

In fact, he's probably more like DJO... not big enough to be an NBA 2, and not a good enough PG to be an NBA PG.  Just not quite good enough.

That comparison I can buy a bit more.  DJO was a much better shooter from the start and throughout his career, but if McClung improves his shot, thats probably not a bad comp.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Jay Bee on April 01, 2020, 10:36:45 AM
OK if I get beaten up a bit, that's the fun of message boards.  I admittedly did not look up his stats before posting, and now that I have, I see that his percentages are low.  Nevertheless, I'd still take him on my team at NCAA level, I think he'd be a starter and probably the leading scorer if he was on MU team next year, and I guess the Diener comparisons relate more to toughness and aggressiveness.

In fact, he's probably more like DJO... not big enough to be an NBA 2, and not a good enough PG to be an NBA PG.  Just not quite good enough.

McClung is more like Blackledge, but with more minutes played
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
If McClung is testing the NBA waters, I hope he brings oversized fins and a darn good mask/snorkel combo, because he's gonna have trouble stayin' afloat.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 01, 2020, 01:43:45 PM
Diener was 10x the player McClung is. Not as athletic no, but way, way better at basketball. McClung is not an NBA player.

This!!  Mc clung is an athletic college player, but below average athleticism for the Nba.  If ur best attribute is athleticism n ur undersized, below average in strength, and under athletic  compared to NBa guards u are in trouble.  Diener may have lacked athletism but literally had everything else.  A little more size and athleticism n Travis was a long time NBAer
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 01, 2020, 01:45:05 PM
McClung is more like Blackledge, but with more minutes played

Haha
True tho

The djo comparison smh
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 01, 2020, 01:47:03 PM
He has plenty of athleticism for the NBA 
Size and shooting on the other hand ...

He's a slightly taller Dominic James with a better FT stroke. Relies too much on athleticism which will be mitigated against bigger stronger competition.

He's living off his YouTube videos. Without that hype coming in he's just another good player on a mediocre G-town team.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: BM1090 on April 01, 2020, 01:59:35 PM
McClung always seems to have good games against MU, but he's just not a good player. He's Jahvon Blair with a higher usage. If I had my pick of Georgetown players to come to MU last year he wouldn't have been in my top 3.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: wadesworld on April 01, 2020, 03:12:24 PM
He's a slightly taller Dominic James with a better FT stroke. Relies too much on athleticism which will be mitigated against bigger stronger competition.

He's living off his YouTube videos. Without that hype coming in he's just another good player on a mediocre G-town team.

Dominic was also 10x the player McClung is.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: JWags85 on April 01, 2020, 03:37:06 PM
This!!  Mc clung is an athletic college player, but below average athleticism for the Nba.  If ur best attribute is athleticism n ur undersized, below average in strength, and under athletic  compared to NBa guards u are in trouble.  Diener may have lacked athletism but literally had everything else.  A little more size and athleticism n Travis was a long time NBAer

Stop with this crap.  He has a 44 inch vertical.  He's incredibly athletic, very quick, and comparatively strong.  But that doesn't make a good basketball player.  He can't shoot and doesn't do anything at an exceptional level but leap,  which is why he won't make the league.  Not because he's not athletic enough.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Jockey on April 01, 2020, 03:59:15 PM
Stop with this crap.  He has a 44 inch vertical.  He's incredibly athletic, very quick, and comparatively strong.  But that doesn't make a good basketball player.  He can't shoot and doesn't do anything at an exceptional level but leap,  which is why he won't make the league.  Not because he's not athletic enough.

Yeah, but he's white.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 01, 2020, 05:09:45 PM
Dominic was also 10x the player McClung is.

stat's wise they're pretty much equal, other than McClung being a better FT and three point shooter and DJ playing more minutes and having more assists.

Season   School   Conf   G          GS           MP   FG   FGA   FG%   2P   2PA   2P%   3P   3PA   3P%   FT   FTA   FT%   ORB   DRB   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PF   PTS       SOS

2018-19   Georgetown   Big East   29   29   26.4   4.4   11.2   .392   3.0   6.3   .481   1.3   4.9   .277   3.0   3.8   .798   0.8   1.9   2.6   2.0   0.8   0.1   2.0   1.8   13.1      5.31
2019-20   Georgetown   Big East   21   20   26.8   5.2   13.2   .394   3.7   8.6   .431   1.5   4.6   .323   3.9   4.8   .802   0.8   2.3   3.1   2.4   1.4   0.2   1.8   1.8   15.7      9.60

2005-06   Marquette   Big East           31   31   32.5   5.6   13.0   .431   4.3   8.6   .496   1.3   4.4   .301   2.7   4.2   .641   0.8   3.7   4.5   5.4   1.6   0.4   2.8   2.4   15.3      8.16
2006-07   Marquette   Big East           34   34   33.2   5.0   13.1   .384   3.6   7.7   .464   1.5   5.4   .272   3.4   5.1   .651   0.6   2.5   3.1   4.9   1.9   0.1   2.6   2.1   14.9      6.95
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: wadesworld on April 01, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
stat's wise they're pretty much equal, other than McClung being a better FT and three point shooter and DJ playing more minutes and having more assists.

Season   School   Conf   G          GS           MP   FG   FGA   FG%   2P   2PA   2P%   3P   3PA   3P%   FT   FTA   FT%   ORB   DRB   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   TOV   PF   PTS       SOS

2018-19   Georgetown   Big East   29   29   26.4   4.4   11.2   .392   3.0   6.3   .481   1.3   4.9   .277   3.0   3.8   .798   0.8   1.9   2.6   2.0   0.8   0.1   2.0   1.8   13.1      5.31
2019-20   Georgetown   Big East   21   20   26.8   5.2   13.2   .394   3.7   8.6   .431   1.5   4.6   .323   3.9   4.8   .802   0.8   2.3   3.1   2.4   1.4   0.2   1.8   1.8   15.7      9.60

2005-06   Marquette   Big East           31   31   32.5   5.6   13.0   .431   4.3   8.6   .496   1.3   4.4   .301   2.7   4.2   .641   0.8   3.7   4.5   5.4   1.6   0.4   2.8   2.4   15.3      8.16
2006-07   Marquette   Big East           34   34   33.2   5.0   13.1   .384   3.6   7.7   .464   1.5   5.4   .272   3.4   5.1   .651   0.6   2.5   3.1   4.9   1.9   0.1   2.6   2.1   14.9      6.95

James was 1000000x the defender McClung was and James’s senior year he was a floor general. McClung sees one thing on the court, the offensive rim.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 02, 2020, 12:50:43 AM
James was 1000000x the defender McClung was and James’s senior year he was a floor general. McClung sees one thing on the court, the offensive rim.

Well, maybe he’ll be a floor general as a senior, because if he’s got any sense he’ll be a 4 year player.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: wadesworld on April 02, 2020, 02:12:03 AM
Well, maybe he’ll be a floor general as a senior, because if he’s got any sense he’ll be a 4 year player.

I guess I shouldn’t have even said “his senior year.” James averaged 5 assists per game for his career and 5 assists per game his senior year. McClung averages 2 and 2.4 in his 2 seasons.

James was way, way better at basketball. Even if you didn’t like him and he didn’t think he needed to be coached.
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 02, 2020, 10:07:42 AM
Diener was 10x the player McClung is. Not as athletic no, but way, way better at basketball. McClung is not an NBA player.

Yeah Diener had the ultimate PG brain (knowing where everyone is at all times, controlling the action), set people up perfectly like Gretzky, and had the ability to hit the long ball + convert at the FT line with extreme efficiency. The two are not remotely similar
Title: Re: McClung to test NBA waters
Post by: Eldon on April 05, 2020, 01:25:48 AM
Yeah Diener had the ultimate PG brain (knowing where everyone is at all times, controlling the action), set people up perfectly like Gretzky, and had the ability to hit the long ball + convert at the FT line with extreme efficiency. The two are not remotely similar

+100

The only thing they have in common is that they kinda look alike.  That's it.