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Title: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 26, 2020, 10:49:24 AM
I'm not sure if people have seen these up on Youtube, but I found these last night.  Needless to say, I have never seen a better two game performance by anyone in a Marquette uniform.  And I love Bill Raftery's reactions!

Enjoy!

Wade highlights v. Pitt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgB1q2xB750

Wade highlights v. Kentucky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IpOoIOFqdg&t=334s
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: oldwarrior81 on March 26, 2020, 10:53:17 AM
links to the complete games from 2003 tournament

Kentucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhuKDbIkTzo

Missouri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzGO4Sa8DU

Holy Cross
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwJIwihZoNU
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: wadesworld on March 26, 2020, 11:33:58 AM
A man among boys.
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: The Lens on March 26, 2020, 02:10:11 PM
And yet he was left out of the OSM video.  Which considering the exposure Wade gets today is really unbelievable. 
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: Lennys Tap on March 26, 2020, 09:12:21 PM
A man among boys.

I’ve watched a ton of NCAA tournament games over the last 50+ years. Wade’s second half vs Pitt and game against Kentucky are the best 30 in weekend 2 I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: The Lens on March 26, 2020, 10:15:00 PM
I’ve watched a ton of NCAA tournament games over the last 50+ years. Wade’s second half vs Pitt and game against Kentucky are the best 30 in weekend 2 I’ve ever seen.

Man it was so much fun.
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: mug644 on March 26, 2020, 10:19:12 PM
Watching those highlights reminds me how critical Travis was in that tournament. He scored 29 to help the team get past Holy Cross in the round of 64, then steered the offense and fed Dwyane for those highlight buckets against Pitt and Kentucky.

Fun to watch and great to recall!
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 27, 2020, 11:35:26 AM
Watching those highlights reminds me how critical Travis was in that tournament. He scored 29 to help the team get past Holy Cross in the round of 64, then steered the offense and fed Dwyane for those highlight buckets against Pitt and Kentucky.

Fun to watch and great to recall!

That team had weapons at all of the critical positions which is why they were so tough to guard

Inside Presence:  Robert Jackson - could score inside/play with back to the hoop, great rebounder
Shot Creator:  Dwayne Wade could literally get a shot from almost anywhere on the court which opened it up for teammates.
Floor General:  Diener - could find open guys, shoot midrange/hit from 3
Wing:  Novak - Deadly 3 pt shooter that would make opponents pay if defense collapsed on Jackson/Wade
Complementary Big Man:  Scott Merrit - solid rebounder, can score if Jackson in foul trouble.

Literally, no weaknesses on offense.  This is what a blueprint for high caliber team looks like.  Now compare to what we've had last 6 years and see all the gaps we've had that haven't been filled.
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 27, 2020, 12:17:36 PM
That team had weapons at all of the critical positions which is why they were so tough to guard

Inside Presence:  Robert Jackson - could score inside/play with back to the hoop, great rebounder
Shot Creator:  Dwayne Wade could literally get a shot from almost anywhere on the court which opened it up for teammates.
Floor General:  Diener - could find open guys, shoot midrange/hit from 3
Wing:  Novak - Deadly 3 pt shooter that would make opponents pay if defense collapsed on Jackson/Wade
Complementary Big Man:  Scott Merrit - solid rebounder, can score if Jackson in foul trouble.

Literally, no weaknesses on offense.  This is what a blueprint for high caliber team looks like.  Now compare to what we've had last 6 years and see all the gaps we've had that haven't been filled.


God can you just shut up? 
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: lawdog77 on March 27, 2020, 12:49:38 PM

God can you just shut up?
Ignore feature is your friend in these times of need.
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 27, 2020, 01:55:55 PM
That team had weapons at all of the critical positions which is why they were so tough to guard

Inside Presence:  Robert Jackson - could score inside/play with back to the hoop, great rebounder
Shot Creator:  Dwayne Wade could literally get a shot from almost anywhere on the court which opened it up for teammates.
Floor General:  Diener - could find open guys, shoot midrange/hit from 3
Wing:  Novak - Deadly 3 pt shooter that would make opponents pay if defense collapsed on Jackson/Wade
Complementary Big Man:  Scott Merrit - solid rebounder, can score if Jackson in foul trouble.

Literally, no weaknesses on offense.  This is what a blueprint for high caliber team looks like.  Now compare to what we've had last 6 years and see all the gaps we've had that haven't been filled.

What depth!! You should be a color commentator or analyst.  Such insight!  Who knew?
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: seakm4 on March 27, 2020, 10:47:13 PM
That team had weapons at all of the critical positions which is why they were so tough to guard

Inside Presence:  Robert Jackson - could score inside/play with back to the hoop, great rebounder
Shot Creator:  Dwayne Wade could literally get a shot from almost anywhere on the court which opened it up for teammates.
Floor General:  Diener - could find open guys, shoot midrange/hit from 3
Wing:  Novak - Deadly 3 pt shooter that would make opponents pay if defense collapsed on Jackson/Wade
Complementary Big Man:  Scott Merrit - solid rebounder, can score if Jackson in foul trouble.

Literally, no weaknesses on offense.  This is what a blueprint for high caliber team looks like.  Now compare to what we've had last 6 years and see all the gaps we've had that haven't been filled.

I usually disagree with MDS on his comments and general disdain for the current state of the program, but I feel like this breakdown is totally fair.  Some people will disagree because of his previous posts, but this is accurate.

To be clear I'm a projo and cooling on that take.  I realized the game has changed and the bigs are required to do more perimeter work defensively (ideally offensively too) than they had to in the past.

In 19/20 we had

We only a defensive presence at the 5.   Theo and JJ scored on dump offs, and 40% accuracy hook shots.  They were liabilities on the defensive end off the bounce.

Markus was as dynamic of a scorer as we've seen at mu, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching him put the ball through the hoop, but he didn't open the offense for others the way that wade did.  Wade could facilitate for others.  Markus didn't as much. It could have been a lack of confidence from the others, it could have been a lack of talent, or it could have need M2N dominating the ball because he needed to.

We didn't have a facilitator at the point this year.  Koby was a defensive presence, but he played WAAAAYYYY too out of control to be our primary ball handler.  I hope he finds his stride next year, but if I see him throw a bullet pass at the feet of a wide open perimeter player and then throw his arms up that the didn't convert it I will be frustrated.

Sacar was a solid wing, but he wasn't able to shoot over defenders the way Novak could.  He had a quick first step and scored more buckets that way, but he wasn't someone we could rely on for a bucket when Markus was on the floor.  All looka that were decent weren't as good as a tough Markus shot in his eyes.  It's ok to rely on others, but he was a better player that wasn't given the boost of confidence that he needed in order to be a consistent threat.

We didn't have a supplemental big.  I think we would all argue that a supplemental wing player is far more important in today's game, but we didnt have that either.  Jamaal played well here and there down the stretch and BB played well in some early season games, but the lack of a consistent rotation didn't allow either guy to get a grasp on their game.  Jamaal is a stretch 4 in a 2's body, and BB is a 3/undersized 4 that is primarily a catch and shoot guy as of right now.  If BB can add a go to post fade or different high post move this offseason I'll be thrilled for him and the program. Jamaal needs a handle. He doesn't need a go to move, he just needs to be able to possess the ball and impose some sort of threat other than a shot.

End of novel. Back off of MDS's fair point.
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: 🏀 on March 27, 2020, 11:49:26 PM
That team had weapons at all of the critical positions which is why they were so tough to guard

Inside Presence:  Robert Jackson - could score inside/play with back to the hoop, great rebounder
Shot Creator:  Dwayne Wade could literally get a shot from almost anywhere on the court which opened it up for teammates.
Floor General:  Diener - could find open guys, shoot midrange/hit from 3
Wing:  Novak - Deadly 3 pt shooter that would make opponents pay if defense collapsed on Jackson/Wade
Complementary Big Man:  Scott Merrit - solid rebounder, can score if Jackson in foul trouble.

Literally, no weaknesses on offense.  This is what a blueprint for high caliber team looks like.  Now compare to what we've had last 6 years and see all the gaps we've had that haven't been filled.

Novak was a weapon at a critical position?
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: Ardmore Mug on March 28, 2020, 06:48:28 AM
Ignore feature is your friend in these times of need.

IGNORE is great, until someone "Quotes" them ! ! !   UGH  ! ! !   >:(
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on March 28, 2020, 07:34:22 AM
I usually disagree with MDS on his comments and general disdain for the current state of the program, but I feel like this breakdown is totally fair.  Some people will disagree because of his previous posts, but this is accurate.

To be clear I'm a projo and cooling on that take.  I realized the game has changed and the bigs are required to do more perimeter work defensively (ideally offensively too) than they had to in the past.

In 19/20 we had

We only a defensive presence at the 5.   Theo and JJ scored on dump offs, and 40% accuracy hook shots.  They were liabilities on the defensive end off the bounce.

Markus was as dynamic of a scorer as we've seen at mu, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching him put the ball through the hoop, but he didn't open the offense for others the way that wade did.  Wade could facilitate for others.  Markus didn't as much. It could have been a lack of confidence from the others, it could have been a lack of talent, or it could have need M2N dominating the ball because he needed to.

We didn't have a facilitator at the point this year.  Koby was a defensive presence, but he played WAAAAYYYY too out of control to be our primary ball handler.  I hope he finds his stride next year, but if I see him throw a bullet pass at the feet of a wide open perimeter player and then throw his arms up that the didn't convert it I will be frustrated.

Sacar was a solid wing, but he wasn't able to shoot over defenders the way Novak could.  He had a quick first step and scored more buckets that way, but he wasn't someone we could rely on for a bucket when Markus was on the floor.  All looka that were decent weren't as good as a tough Markus shot in his eyes.  It's ok to rely on others, but he was a better player that wasn't given the boost of confidence that he needed in order to be a consistent threat.

We didn't have a supplemental big.  I think we would all argue that a supplemental wing player is far more important in today's game, but we didnt have that either.  Jamaal played well here and there down the stretch and BB played well in some early season games, but the lack of a consistent rotation didn't allow either guy to get a grasp on their game.  Jamaal is a stretch 4 in a 2's body, and BB is a 3/undersized 4 that is primarily a catch and shoot guy as of right now.  If BB can add a go to post fade or different high post move this offseason I'll be thrilled for him and the program. Jamaal needs a handle. He doesn't need a go to move, he just needs to be able to possess the ball and impose some sort of threat other than a shot.

End of novel. Back off of MDS's fair point.

The point is that’s not the topic of this thread. He’s made similar points elsewhere.

And now you are too. Thanks. 🙄🙄🙄
Title: Re: Wade S16 and E8 Highlights
Post by: seakm4 on March 28, 2020, 12:16:48 PM
The point is that’s not the topic of this thread. He’s made similar points elsewhere.

And now you are too. Thanks. 🙄🙄🙄

Fair enough.  Sorry.  Had a restless baby last night and got carried away. 

Reset:
Wade was awesome, and watching those games were the most fun I can recall in all of my years watching basketball.  Thanks for sharing.  I will watch the whole games tonight.