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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: JakeBarnes on February 26, 2020, 11:09:40 PM
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Def called on/out the students to show up on Saturday.
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Good.
Students are spoiled. Show TFU. You have a team that is competing and just outside the top 25. We won’t always be amazing.
(Insert butt hurt ners, guru, Mike dean, 5 dollar) “yeah but!!! We lost some games”
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Hopefully nicely, wouldn’t want them to run off to their safe spaces instead!
Oh I kid... for real though they don’t much like the guy so it might behoove him to extend an olive branch and try to get in their good graces.
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Hopefully nicely, wouldn’t want them to run off to their safe spaces instead!
Oh I kid... for real though they don’t much like the guy so it might behoove him to extend an olive branch and try to get in their good graces.
It was nicely. Referring to Sacar and Markus, he said hopefully their peers show up to send them off
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It was nicely. Referring to Sacar and Markus, he said hopefully their peers show up to send them off
This was the extent of it. I don’t think Wojo really called them out explicitly. With that said, it’ll be a full house. Expecting MU to win by 10+ and the game much like the Butler game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZKyq__RoE8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbKQf-qY7Xo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogNsuJrIpnU
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Found it interesting around the 5:45 mark when Wojo says “I thought we were the only team that lost games” as If he hears some of the noise/complaining/booing from some of the fans... I heard some boos again tonight during intros when they said his name which was just embarrassing
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I don’t know who it was off camera who told Wojo that every team but Creighton has lost three conference games in a row. Fact cheek: It is Seton Hall and Creighton.
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Found it interesting around the 5:45 mark when Wojo says “I thought we were the only team that lost games” as If he hears some of the noise/complaining/booing from some of the fans... I heard some boos again tonight during intros when they said his name which was just embarrassing
I laughed. I have to imagine that 40 or so years ago, his old boss was hearing boos at Duke games. The pitchforks were definitely out early in Durham for K. Hopefully Wojo gained some perspective working for someone who had major accomplishments after early struggles. Yes, our fanbase can be whiny and entitled, but that's partially born of a tremendous passion for the game and the program. If Wojo can start to find the success we all hope for, I have no doubt he'll get the support everyone in his position craves.
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I’ve been going to MU games since 1971 (yikes!). I have never booed our own team or coach during pregame intros. It’s embarrassing.
I appreciate the students who did show up, but there should have been more last night, they could have stayed the last few minutes until the end ( they weren’t alone in emptying out the place though) and stop the booing, please!
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I laughed. I have to imagine that 40 or so years ago, his old boss was hearing boos at Duke games. The pitchforks were definitely out early in Durham for K. Hopefully Wojo gained some perspective working for someone who had major accomplishments after early struggles. Yes, our fanbase can be whiny and entitled, but that's partially born of a tremendous passion for the game and the program. If Wojo can start to find the success we all hope for, I have no doubt he'll get the support everyone in his position craves.
Can you verify that the pitchforks were “definitely” out for Coach K early in his career? Also, the MU fan base is really no different than any other school where sports are a big part of the culture. More docile than some of the big football schools, probably. I agree that if he achieves the success we hope for, he’ll get the support. If not, he’ll continue to be called to account with boos from students at the beginning of games.
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Can you verify that the pitchforks were “definitely” out for Coach K early in his career? Also, the MU fan base is really no different than any other school where sports are a big part of the culture. More docile than some of the big football schools, probably. I agree that if he achieves the success we hope for, he’ll get the support. If not, he’ll continue to be called to account with boos from students at the beginning of games.
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/11/mike-krzyzewskis-humble-beginnings-as-dukes-basketball-coach/248572/
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https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/11/mike-krzyzewskis-humble-beginnings-as-dukes-basketball-coach/248572/
The article says Duke fans were calling for his head after year 3. That, to me, is whiny and entitled. Wojo’s in year 6. In his fourth year, K won his first NCAAT game at Duke and was off to the races.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/11/mike-krzyzewskis-humble-beginnings-as-dukes-basketball-coach/248572/
Yep, really not too difficult to check if you're so inclined.
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The students need one (or, more likely, several of their own) to lead the way in making booing unacceptable. On political and social issues they (meaning all US college students) tend towards the herd mentality. Some honestly examine all sides of an issue or candidate but I really think that most "get religion" from the energy of a movement and join in. If the same principle could somehow be applied to acceptable behavior at Marquette games, then and only then will the booing stop. Yeah, I know. Probably wishful thinking but...do you really think they will listen to Wojo, the Administration, or...Scoop?
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The article says Duke fans were calling for his head after year 3. That, to me, is whiny and entitled. Wojo’s in year 6. In his fourth year, K won his first NCAAT game at Duke and was off to the races.
K also had 5 years of head coaching experience before he got to Duke.
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The article says Duke fans were calling for his head after year 3. That, to me, is whiny and entitled. Wojo’s in year 6. In his fourth year, K won his first NCAAT game at Duke and was off to the races.
The question was about fans/alum calling for his head early in his tenure. They were.
People being unhappy with Wojo is fine. Having expectations is fine. The booing is a choice. I don’t see how it’s helpful to improving the situation, though.
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The students need one (or, more likely, several of their own) to lead the way in making booing unacceptable. On political and social issues they (meaning all US college students) tend towards the herd mentality. Some honestly examine all sides of an issue or candidate but I really think that most "get religion" from the energy of a movement and join in. If the same principle could somehow be applied to acceptable behavior at Marquette games, then and only then will the booing stop. Yeah, I know. Probably wishful thinking but...do you really think they will listen to Wojo, the Administration, or...Scoop?
When I was at MU that last person I would ever listen to is the dudes who were the student section cheer masters. Outside of their rah rah BS I dont think those guys knew much of anything about college basketball. How often do you think all the students get together and have people tell them hey guys dont boo? The automatic chant started with a group of like 20 dudes....the booing would be audible from the same number.
Wojo can get over it-Hes getting paid a ton of money and if some students dont like him (for any number of reasons) he should be able to accept that.
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When I was at MU that last person I would ever listen to is the dudes who were the student section cheer masters. Outside of their rah rah BS I dont think those guys knew much of anything about college basketball. How often do you think all the students get together and have people tell them hey guys dont boo? The automatic chant started with a group of like 20 dudes....the booing would be audible from the same number.
Wojo can get over it-Hes getting paid a ton of money and if some students dont like him (for any number of reasons) he should be able to accept that.
OK, fair enough as I did not make myself clear.
I was thinking of an editorial in the Marquette Tribune or students at the games shouting down the boo-ers. I know its a long shot and yeah, Wojo has to learn to take it. You are right about the cheerleaders though. Booing is really a bad look to prospects and makes Marquette student fans look like a bunch of morons even though many are not booing.
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If not, he’ll continue to be called to account with boos from students at the beginning of games.
Calling to account would be not showing up at games. Booing is just whiny crybaby BS because Wojo didn't get you a pony for Christmas.
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100% Agree the booing is embarrassing and counter-productive. There are recruits sitting there taking the game in and the lead ambassador for your program that has that recruit there is getting booed? So yea, by booing I do believe you are actually making the program worse if even one recruit hears it and counts it as a reason to not come to MU. Most recruits have plenty of other options, why give them a reason to go elsewhere.
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The rest of the fiserv Forum crowd should boo the student section when they are announced.....the best student section in the country....what a joke.
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The rest of the fiserv Forum crowd should boo the student section when they are announced.....the best student section in the country....what a joke.
This.
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The rest of the fiserv Forum crowd should boo the student section when they are announced.....the best student section in the country....what a joke.
Last night was interesting because the student boos were concerted and louder than they have been but the rest of the students also cheered more loudly to drown the boos out. Vibrant student section last night and MU recognized the front row students and band who have been awesome all season.
The empty seats continued with about a third unoccupied. <scratch head>
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Also, the MU fan base is really no different than any other school where sports are a big part of the culture. More docile than some of the big football schools, probably.
This is true with a caveat. Marquette fans are nothing compared to SEC football fans. But they are 100 times "worse" than SEC basketball fans (except UK fans). Buzz could turn in 6 straight losing seasons at TAMU and never be booed. The fans simply don't care enough. They'll show up and get loud when the team is winning but if they're not they simply stop caring.
I would say we are one of the most entitled/passionate college basketball fanbases. But in the grand scheme of college sports, we're maybe slightly above average. Doesn't mean booing the coach is a good look though.
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The article says Duke fans were calling for his head after year 3. That, to me, is whiny and entitled. Wojo’s in year 6. In his fourth year, K won his first NCAAT game at Duke and was off to the races.
Watch the documentary "The Class That Saved Coach K". It does a good job of how the Duke faithful were uneasy for the beginning of his tenure. If you are a fan of college basketball it is a good use of 90 minutes even if you don't like Duke.
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The rest of the fiserv Forum crowd should boo the student section when they are announced.....the best student section in the country....what a joke.
Interesting that they did not "introduce" the student section last night. Yes, the booing was noticeably louder and the turnout was underwhelming (and most left at the 8 minute timeout in the second half).
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Interesting that they did not "introduce" the student section last night. Yes, the booing was noticeably louder and the turnout was underwhelming (and most left at the 8 minute timeout in the second half).
I think they did. I think they have just sped that part up along with the Wojo intro.
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K also had 5 years of head coaching experience before he got to Duke.
Irrelevant when discussing Wojo. Wojo has no lower D1 head coaching experience because he chose not to have it before taking a P6 job. He gets no pass for that. I'm not terribly satisfied with his first 6 years (I think if you told everybody on the day Wojo was hired what the first 5 1/2 years results were going to be, just about nobody would have thought it was good), but I still think he can get there.
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Irrelevant when discussing Wojo. Wojo has no lower D1 head coaching experience because he chose not to have it before taking a P6 job. He gets no pass for that. I'm not terribly satisfied with his first 6 years (I think if you told everybody on the day Wojo was hired what the first 5 1/2 years results were going to be, just about nobody would have thought it was good), but I still think he can get there.
It's not opinion, just facts with regards to this being his first head coaching job. That matters and has to be baked into expectations....let's put it this way, if #DoneDeal had actually happened and Shaka had the same results as Wojo has delivered I'd be much more disappointed in Shaka than Wojo. As with any job in the real world, there is a learning curve and you don't know what you don't know. The jump from AC to HC is a very large one and I think it's unreasonable(supported by lots of evidence) to think expectations shouldn't be adjusted accordingly.
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Irrelevant when discussing Wojo. Wojo has no lower D1 head coaching experience because he chose not to have it before taking a P6 job. He gets no pass for that. I'm not terribly satisfied with his first 6 years (I think if you told everybody on the day Wojo was hired what the first 5 1/2 years results were going to be, just about nobody would have thought it was good), but I still think he can get there.
Certainly not, but the first year can be completely thrown out the window. He had nothing to work with.
Since then: 47-40 in the BE. Three ncaa tournament bids in 5 years. One NIT 2 seed, the other an NIT snub in Ellenson's season. Obviously 0-2 to date in the NCAA tournament sucks, but its a pretty small sample. If MU can win a game or two in the tournament this year, its hard to argue that the past 4 seasons are in this monumental downslide into irrelevancy that many here make it to be. Recruiting has and continues to be good. The trajectory continues to looks good IMO - just hasn't happened as quickly as everyone wanted.
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Certainly not, but the first year can be completely thrown out the window. He had nothing to work with.
Since then: 47-40 in the BE. Three ncaa tournament bids in 5 years. One NIT 2 seed, the other an NIT snub in Ellenson's season. Obviously 0-2 to date in the NCAA tournament sucks, but its a pretty small sample. If MU can win a game or two in the tournament this year, its hard to argue that the past 4 seasons are in this monumental downslide into irrelevancy that many here make it to be. Recruiting has and continues to be good. The trajectory continues to looks good IMO - just hasn't happened as quickly as everyone wanted.
Keep in mind your audience. Some here think that a timeout in a mid-season game is one of the low points in the history of Marquette basketball.
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It's not opinion, just facts with regards to this being his first head coaching job. That matters and has to be baked into expectations....let's put it this way, if #DoneDeal had actually happened and Shaka had the same results as Wojo has delivered I'd be much more disappointed in Shaka than Wojo. As with any job in the real world, there is a learning curve and you don't know what you don't know. The jump from AC to HC is a very large one and I think it's unreasonable(supported by lots of evidence) to think expectations shouldn't be adjusted accordingly.
Theoretically, I guess. This narrative that has emerged lately though is interesting, but I think misses a key point.
There are not that many good basketball coaches.
We can find examples of quick success, slow success, maturation, time etc, but really there are way more losers than winners...that is more important than time as an assistant, learning, etc, etc.
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Keep in mind your audience. Some here think that a timeout in a mid-season game is one of the low points in the history of Marquette basketball.
I think its hilarious. Especially from the older fans. Marquette was a solid but largely unspectacular program from 1980-2000. 7 NCAA tournament bids in 22 seasons. A single sweet 16. Even after the 2003 final 4, Marquette missed the NCAA tournament two straight seasons thereafter. It wasn't really until the 05-06 season when Marquette moved to the Big East that they started playing big time basketball again. Yet some here act like the Wojo days are as dark as its been since pre-Al. Its silly.
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This.
Except that it will be indistinguishable from the Boos for Wojo. Next headline:"Now it's not just the students!"
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The students need one (or, more likely, several of their own) to lead the way in making booing unacceptable. On political and social issues they (meaning all US college students) tend towards the herd mentality. Some honestly examine all sides of an issue or candidate but I really think that most "get religion" from the energy of a movement and join in. If the same principle could somehow be applied to acceptable behavior at Marquette games, then and only then will the booing stop. Yeah, I know. Probably wishful thinking but...do you really think they will listen to Wojo, the Administration, or...Scoop?
Well, it certainly got them to stop chanting, "Hey! You Suck!" when the band played "Rock and Roll Part 2".
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Certainly not, but the first year can be completely thrown out the window. He had nothing to work with.
When the first NET rankings of the year came out, Buzz’s TAMU team was 281, lowest of any P6 school. That is the definition of having nothing to work with. He now has them at 116 and might get into the NIT. It’s a good thing he didn’t decide to throw his first season at TAMU out the window.
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When the first NET rankings of the year came out, Buzz’s TAMU team was 281, lowest of any P6 school. That is the definition of having nothing to work with. He now has them at 116 and might get into the NIT. It’s a good thing he didn’t decide to throw his first season at TAMU out the window.
They will not be in the NIT. I'm sure he'll be thrilled to throw around his soon to be sub .500 season.
Congrats Bazz!
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When the first NET rankings of the year came out, Buzz’s TAMU team was 281, lowest of any P6 school. That is the definition of having nothing to work with. He now has them at 116 and might get into the NIT. It’s a good thing he didn’t decide to throw his first season at TAMU out the window.
The SEC is closer this year to the AAC than the Big East.
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When the first NET rankings of the year came out, Buzz’s TAMU team was 281, lowest of any P6 school. That is the definition of having nothing to work with. He now has them at 116 and might get into the NIT. It’s a good thing he didn’t decide to throw his first season at TAMU out the window.
The only thing that proves is that you don't know how Net rankings or any of the other analytics work.
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Well, it certainly got them to stop chanting, "Hey! You Suck!" when the band played "Rock and Roll Part 2".
It's was my fifth year. What actually happened was they sent an email saying if we yelled "hey! you suck!" During the Ohio St blow out that they'd stop it. And they did.
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When the first NET rankings of the year came out, Buzz’s TAMU team was 281, lowest of any P6 school. That is the definition of having nothing to work with. He now has them at 116 and might get into the NIT. It’s a good thing he didn’t decide to throw his first season at TAMU out the window.
This is a really bad take for a few reasons.
1. TAMU isn't going to the NIT
2. NET is based on results not predictive analytics. So the reason Buzz' team was ranked 281, was because they, under his leadership, were BAD
3. Despite me commenting on how bad they were to start the season (and they were), the NET is notoriously inaccurate in the opening weeks of the season. Teams like Richmond, Liberty, and Duquesne were dubbed top 20 teams.
4. KenPom, which is based on predictive analytics, pegged Texas A&M as the 57th best team in the country preseason based on their incoming roster. They are now 140th in KenPom, a movement of -87. Of course, KenPom isn't perfect, but it is a good neutral evaluater of incoming talent.
5. For funsies, Wojo's first roster was pegged as the 87th best team preseason by KenPom. They finished 93rd for a movement of -6. It would be very easy to make an argument that Wojo's first year was significantly better than Buzz' first year at TAMU.
All that being said, my take on Buzz' TAMU squad is that Buzz did a little buzzcutting in an effort to get his players in quicker. There were guys who could have helped this season that Buzz either ran off or didn't play because he wants to get guys who fit what he wants to do with the team. He did the same thing at Virginia Tech to great effect. Nod to Dr. B for pointing this out and suggesting that Wojo should have done the same.
Of course this means that Buzz did decide to throw his first season at TAMU.
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This is a really bad take for a few reasons.
1. TAMU isn't going to the NIT
2. NET is based on results not predictive analytics. So the reason Buzz' team was ranked 281, was because they, under his leadership, were BAD
3. Despite me commenting on how bad they were to start the season (and they were), the NET is notoriously inaccurate in the opening weeks of the season. Teams like Richmond, Liberty, and Duquesne were dubbed top 20 teams.
4. KenPom, which is based on predictive analytics, pegged Texas A&M as the 57th best team in the country preseason based on their incoming roster. They are now 140th in KenPom, a movement of -87. Of course, KenPom isn't perfect, but it is a good neutral evaluater of incoming talent.
5. For funsies, Wojo's first roster was pegged as the 87th best team preseason by KenPom. They finished 93rd for a movement of -6. It would be very easy to make an argument that Wojo's first year was significantly better than Buzz' first year at TAMU.
All that being said, my take on Buzz' TAMU squad is that Buzz did a little buzzcutting in an effort to get his players in quicker. There were guys who could have helped this season that Buzz either ran off or didn't play because he wants to get guys who fit what he wants to do with the team. He did the same thing at Virginia Tech to great effect. Nod to Dr. B for pointing this out and suggesting that Wojo should have done the same.
Of course this means that Buzz did decide to throw his first season at TAMU.
I thoroughly am enjoying how people's dumb arguments are getting absolutely destroyed on Scoop the last couple of days. This is good work.
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I thoroughly am enjoying how people's dumb arguments are getting absolutely destroyed on Scoop the last couple of days. This is good work.
Using KenPom preseason rankings is “absolutely destroying” an argument?
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Using KenPom preseason rankings is “absolutely destroying” an argument?
You still don't understand it even after he spelled it out word for word for you, huh?
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if this thread can also be used to discuss how wojo/koby handles out press-yikes!! if seton hall was taking notes(they were) of our breaking(or trying to)georgetown's press, we are in really big trouble.
the best thing we can hope for is that wojo didn't show 'em our whole press breakin playbook
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I'd need to rewatch to be sure, but I was pretty happy with the press break last night. There were a few bad turnovers but I think at least twice that many wide open shots
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Press break was fine - when Koby was on the bench.
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I'd need to rewatch to be sure, but I was pretty happy with the press break last night. There were a few bad turnovers but I think at least twice that many wide open shots
I think my new approach with this team is it might not be pretty or conventional, but it gets the job done. The offense doesn’t look efficient, but it’s one of the top offenses in the country.
To me on the press break, it seemed like we allowed ourselves to get trapped and broke it up the sidelines with long passes. I’m used to getting the ball in the middle and breaking it from there. Sam and Joey did well there. We had a ton of lob passes and cross court passes to Sacar on the sideline and it seemed to get a numbers advantage due to GTowns initial pressure on the first ball handler.
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I think my new approach with this team is it might not be pretty or conventional, but it gets the job done. The offense doesn’t look efficient, but it’s one of the top offenses in the country.
To me on the press break, it seemed like we allowed ourselves to get trapped and broke it up the sidelines with long passes. I’m used to getting the ball in the middle and breaking it from there. Sam and Joey did well there. We had a ton of lob passes and cross court passes to Sacar on the sideline and it seemed to get a numbers advantage due to GTowns initial pressure on the first ball handler.
We turned it over a bit more than I liked, but when we did break the press it resulted in a wide open shot or layup every single time.
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Seems that Wojo must read Scoop. Just recently there was discussion of 3-game losing streaks.
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I'd need to rewatch to be sure, but I was pretty happy with the press break last night. There were a few bad turnovers but I think at least twice that many wide open shots
ok, let me rephrase a little-koby looked like he's never seen a press before nor had they even practised breaking one. he might have got it done more times than not, but he seemed more nervous than a pregnant nun in a rectory.
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Lol I can't believe this thread is already in its third page.
They're not booing. They're saying Wooj, a shorthand, playful nickname for Woj.
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Nm
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I just rewatched the last 10 mins. Not sure why Koby is always the lightening rod.
Against the press Sacar got trapped and threw it away, Greg traveled, Brendan threw a bad pass. Symir three one away. Koby wasn’t always smooth, got tied up once, but handled the ball far more than the others, and did a pretty darn good job.
We’d be in a world of hurt without him.
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Lol I can't believe this thread is already in its third page.
They're not booing. They're saying Wooj, a shorthand, playful nickname for Woj.
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Good.
Students are spoiled. Show TFU. You have a team that is competing and just outside the top 25. We won’t always be amazing.
(Insert butt hurt ners, guru, Mike dean, 5 dollar) “yeah but!!! We lost some games”
Nah, the whole fan base is spoiled. Will never forget the Georgetown game at home last year. Should have been a raucous atmoshphere with MU having a chance to win the Big East. Instead, the sweater vests and everyone else was as into the game as a November matchup against a SWAC team.
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Nah, the whole fan base is spoiled. Will never forget the Georgetown game at home last year. Should have been a raucous atmoshphere with MU having a chance to win the Big East. Instead, the sweater vests and everyone else was as into the game as a November matchup against a SWAC team.
To be fair people were anxious as we had been falling apart down the stretch. But I do agree. I remember watching it on TV thinking it sounded silent
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Nah, the whole fan base is spoiled. Will never forget the Georgetown game at home last year. Should have been a raucous atmoshphere with MU having a chance to win the Big East. Instead, the sweater vests and everyone else was as into the game as a November matchup against a SWAC team.
Not. True.
Much of the crowd excitedly entered the bowl as Nova lost on the TV monitors in the concourse. The performance on the floor that day was 100% responsible for the subdued atmosphere that developed. I actually hear Wojo sometimes imply that the initial energy should come from the fan base. Fan reaction is a byproduct of the performance on the court. Get your team ready to compete Steve and there will be tons of support.
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Not. True.
Much of the crowd excitedly entered the bowl as Nova lost on the TV monitors in the concourse. The performance on the floor that day was 100% responsible for the subdued atmosphere that developed. I actually hear Wojo sometimes imply that the initial energy should come from the fan base. Fan reaction is a byproduct of the performance on the court. Get your team ready to compete Steve and there will be tons of support.
Exactly right.
And Galway is correct... when Georgetown made their run the crowd got as tight as the team did.
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Not. True.
Much of the crowd excitedly entered the bowl as Nova lost on the TV monitors in the concourse. The performance on the floor that day was 100% responsible for the subdued atmosphere that developed. I actually hear Wojo sometimes imply that the initial energy should come from the fan base. Fan reaction is a byproduct of the performance on the court. Get your team ready to compete Steve and there will be tons of support.
I both agree and disagree. The student section being insanely loud right after thunderstruck before the tip and going right into the cheers seems like every they control. After that I agree fan reaction is a byproduct of performance.
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Not. True.
Much of the crowd excitedly entered the bowl as Nova lost on the TV monitors in the concourse. The performance on the floor that day was 100% responsible for the subdued atmosphere that developed. I actually hear Wojo sometimes imply that the initial energy should come from the fan base. Fan reaction is a byproduct of the performance on the court. Get your team ready to compete Steve and there will be tons of support.
Agree completely.
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I think my new approach with this team is it might not be pretty or conventional, but it gets the job done. The offense doesn’t look efficient, but it’s one of the top offenses in the country.
To me on the press break, it seemed like we allowed ourselves to get trapped and broke it up the sidelines with long passes. I’m used to getting the ball in the middle and breaking it from there. Sam and Joey did well there. We had a ton of lob passes and cross court passes to Sacar on the sideline and it seemed to get a numbers advantage due to GTowns initial pressure on the first ball handler.
I think when they did break the press they were very successful at getting easy hoops. That being said I was always taught regardless of where you are on the court the best way to beat a zone press like that is with diagonal passes. The few times we did that we were very successful at getting open hoops and 3-2, 2-1 situations.
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My recollection if that game was that MU played very well, but Mcclung and Akinjo kept throwing up prayers that went in over and over. I think it was Keefe who said "Georgetown kept throwing up turds that somehow plopped into the punch bowl."
Maybe others are different but when two teams are playing well and trading body blows back and forth, that pumps me up more rather than takes me out of it.
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Exactly right.
And Galway is correct... when Georgetown made their run the crowd got as tight as the team did.
Definitely had a Wrigley Field Game 7 against the Marlins after the Bartman game feel to it.....waiting for something bad to happen, and it did.
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When the first NET rankings of the year came out, Buzz’s TAMU team was 281, lowest of any P6 school. That is the definition of having nothing to work with. He now has them at 116 and might get into the NIT. It’s a good thing he didn’t decide to throw his first season at TAMU out the window.
Context matters. Your argument that they went from 281 to 116 loses a lot of luster when you point out "lowest of any P6 school." So from 75/75 to 69/75? And none of the P6 schools are sub-200 anymore, so the vast majority of that "improvement" is just playing (not winning, but playing) conference games.
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My recollection if that game was that MU played very well, but Mcclung and Akinjo kept throwing up prayers that went in over and over. I think it was Keefe who said "Georgetown kept throwing up turds that somehow plopped into the punch bowl."
Maybe others are different but when two teams are playing well and trading body blows back and forth, that pumps me up more rather than takes me out of it.
There were 51 fouls called by the Big East’s finest in that Georgetown game which takes out the game and crowd flow. Even more amazing with all those fouls called, the teams attempted 50 threes. “The BE title is on the line, let’s insert ourselves into the action”.
And if James Breeding shows up for this SH rematch, expect another BE ref crapshow beyond last year’s debacle. We haven’t had him in a while so MU is due for his ego to enter the loading dock garage at FF.
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Not. True.
Much of the crowd excitedly entered the bowl as Nova lost on the TV monitors in the concourse. The performance on the floor that day was 100% responsible for the subdued atmosphere that developed. I actually hear Wojo sometimes imply that the initial energy should come from the fan base. Fan reaction is a byproduct of the performance on the court. Get your team ready to compete Steve and there will be tons of support.
Definitely agree, it was a blast watching on the concourse with everyone and thought that would have carried over more.
Still would have been expecting something like games against Nova or Wisconsin when your team has a chance to clinch a conference title on its home floor. At least from where I was sitting, it didn't come anywhere close and that has been a trend in recent years for other important games.
Hopefully the return of UConn and more years of playing against Xavier, Butler and Creighton (who MU fans don't seem to treat super seriously at home) will help amp people up more often, like the BC crowds when the team ripped off almost 30 straight home wins from 2012-2013.
Until then, we can all lay off the students.
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Were these reporters intimidated by Ewing? He seemed nice enough. How about asking him about possibly facing Markus for the last time and what he has meant to the Big East? Listening to these press conferences always make me cringe. So many softball questions or flat-out stupid questions.