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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: rocket surgeon on February 16, 2020, 12:00:49 PM
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i know many people want to call this "heal spurs" but this freakin hurts and isn't getting any better. my wife would beach at me for working out on my elliptical in crocs. they are comfortable as hell and i'm not really pounding as i'm sure most of ya'll are familiar with how an elliptical works. i've had this fitness club precor at home for 10 years. short of the occasional slump, i probably use it on average 3-4 times per week for 30 minutes or so. sometimes 45-60 minutes if i'm feeling extra frisky
anyway, this heal pain, in my right foot only has been gradually coming on for the past 2-3 weeks. i got these hard orthotics online just to see if they worked before going to the "good feet" guy where his can cost upwards of $200+. the orthotics do work...some, but wondering what else i can do. i am able to continue to work out on my elliptical with very little pain, it is walking that's a killer, especially getting out of bed and/or sitting idle for any amount of time
i've read ice and NSAIDS, stretching the calf and planter region and orthotics
any thoughts? thanks!
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Eye'll bring my endo chit on Wednesday and take yo ass outta pain, hey?
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roll the arch of your foot on a tennis ball several times a day. Buy a couple pairs of Samuel Hubbard shoes and a pair of Hoka 1. Eventually the pain will subside, as it did for me.
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roll the arch of your foot on a tennis ball several times a day. Buy a couple pairs of Samuel Hubbard shoes and a pair of Hoka 1. Eventually the pain will subside, as it did for me.
good to know something worked and there is relief in sight. got the tennis ball going and going shoe shoppin in a minute-somehow i like your idea better than doc's :D
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roll the arch of your foot on a tennis ball several times a day. Buy a couple pairs of Samuel Hubbard shoes and a pair of Hoka 1. Eventually the pain will subside, as it did for me.
just ordered a pair of sammy hubbard's! thanks
also suggested to me-rolling a golf ball-God knows i cant do anything else with 'em
and a frozen bottle of water
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Hard rubber ball like a dog’s toy ball works real well, too.
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I don’t know about plantar fasciitis, but those spiky dryer balls (https://www.target.com/p/dryer-balls-2pk-room-essentials-153/-/A-13790135) are fantastic for rolling under sore feet.
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Take it seriously and see a foot and ankle ortho. Sooner the better. About 5 years ago, wife thought she had planter fasciitis, and it took many exams to get to accurate initial diagnosis. Turned out to be a tarsal coalition with other complications. Still not resolved. Pain every day. Orthotics, ice, rolling frozen bottle, stretched, pt, etc. all potentially help W symptoms.
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roll the arch of your foot on a tennis ball several times a day. Buy a couple pairs of Samuel Hubbard shoes and a pair of Hoka 1. Eventually the pain will subside, as it did for me.
I've had occasional left heel pain over the last year, but $300 for a pair of shoes? Yikes. That would hurt my wallet more than my left heel hurts.
I'll fork over $7 for a can of tennis balls though. If that doesn't work, my dog will be happy with new tennis balls
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Take it seriously and see a foot and ankle ortho. Sooner the better. About 5 years ago, wife thought she had planter fasciitis, and it took many exams to get to accurate initial diagnosis. Turned out to be a tarsal coalition with other complications. Still not resolved. Pain every day. Orthotics, ice, rolling frozen bottle, stretched, pt, etc. all potentially help W symptoms.
the golf ball thing is already working wonders-at least 50% better already. i expect this to take a little bit, but if i hit a lull, i have a patient who's a foot doc
got a pair of sammy's frequent travelers for 2 bills
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I started with the Hubbards a couple years ago while in Nashville and get a new pair every so often. Mainly because I want them to last. The footbed is great for the arch and I added the Hoka 1s for boating (non mar soles) and because I realized that I can no longer wear flat soled shoes. My casual shoes all seem to have flat soles with no support at all. My ortho and podiatric guys both stressed the importance of proper arch support.
I got the ball rolling from the PTherapist the orthopod sent me to, along with some exercises. The ball seemed to give me the most relief. Good luck, hope it helps.
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Never owned a pair of these shoes, but intrigued now....give us a review.
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Never owned a pair of these shoes, but intrigued now....give us a review.
Go check them out online they have quite few nice styles. Shoe laces typically annoy me. That’s why I found a cool pair of slip ons. If I have to have laces, most times I just don’t tie them and tuck the strings out the way so I obviously am not tripping over myself
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Tennis balls, frozen water bottles, and see a PT. Seriously, physical therapy is wildly under used, go to a PT listen to what they say and just incorporate their exercises into your daily routine.
Example, I separated my shoulder(grade 3) playing soccer, went to the ortho who wanted to wire my shoulder back together, wife talked me out of it and went to PT instead. I do a couple of strengthen exercises a couple times a week during my regular weight training routine and shoulder feels wonderful and it's been 6 years now
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Example, I separated my shoulder(grade 3) playing soccer, went to the ortho who wanted to wire my shoulder back together, wife talked me out of it and went to PT instead.
When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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Tennis balls, frozen water bottles, and see a PT. Seriously, physical therapy is wildly under used, go to a PT listen to what they say and just incorporate their exercises into your daily routine.
Example, I separated my shoulder(grade 3) playing soccer, went to the ortho who wanted to wire my shoulder back together, wife talked me out of it and went to PT instead. I do a couple of strengthen exercises a couple times a week during my regular weight training routine and shoulder feels wonderful and it's been 6 years now
You are only 14 now yet the most cogent poster on Scoop.
#ptmattas
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Regular calf stretching. High arch supported, non-minimalist shoes, vary types of exercise/sports movement.
For other reference, Albert Pujols, the baseball player, has been playing with it for at least 15 years.
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Go check them out online they have quite few nice styles. Shoe laces typically annoy me. That’s why I found a cool pair of slip ons. If I have to have laces, most times I just don’t tie them and tuck the strings out the way so I obviously am not tripping over myself
That leads to plantar fasciitis....tie your shoes. ;D
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Cortisone shot can help with acute pain while you "re-do" your walk. Go see an ortho.
I've been able to treat with insoles (ortho would help determine the right style, but buy elsewhere down the road) and stretching calves. The only shoes that have been "good" without insoles have been Ecco - but not universally.
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Cortisone shot can help with acute pain while you "re-do" your walk. Go see an ortho.
I've been able to treat with insoles (ortho would help determine the right style, but buy elsewhere down the road) and stretching calves. The only shoes that have been "good" without insoles have been Ecco - but not universally.
i hate needles, 'specially in an already sore plantar region...but i do have a high tolerance to pain ?-( doesn't everyone?
i cannot imagine the masochist who could stick a needle(cortisone) into my foot right now-would have to hate my guts err sumpin. he/she would have to run the other way...quickly
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I can attest that shoes make all the difference. Stretching and warming up before exercise is very important as well... but shoes can make it go away. I made the mistake of buying about 6 pairs of $100+ basketball shoes (all of which didn't help) before finally googling around for NBA players who suffer from it, and then buying their shoe. The arch support was so high compared to normal basketball shoes I would get cramps unless I would jog easily for about 1km in them before playing. The ones that worked for me were a 3-4 year ago D.Rose shoe, so I bought enough of the same shoe to get me through a couple years.
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Having suffered from plantar fasciitis for years, I got fitted for custom orthotics several years ago. They weren't cheap but insurance covered 50%. They completely resolved the problem and I found that they also eliminated back pain when standing or walking for long periods. I also recommend Vionic shoes, particularly for sandals and slip-ons. The key is the high, firm arch support.
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Just take a little CBD and everything will go away. It's the cure-all that cures a lot.
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i hate needles, 'specially in an already sore plantar region...but i do have a high tolerance to pain ?-( doesn't everyone?
i cannot imagine the masochist who could stick a needle(cortisone) into my foot right now-would have to hate my guts err sumpin. he/she would have to run the other way...quickly
So, when you have to numb a patient's mouth for a procedure, do you sympathize as you are driving that industrial size needle through their gums?
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I had it a couple of years ago but worked my way through it over about 4-5 months. It sucked.
(Obviously I have nothing useful to contribute! But did I say it sucked?)
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So, when you have to numb a patient's mouth for a procedure, do you sympathize as you are driving that industrial size needle through their gums?
absolutely! i apologize before, during and after, then we cry together...wait, "industrial size"? we ain't doing tracheotomies here, but using a needle on someone and having it stuck into self are 2 different things. btw, we call in "throwing darts" ;D got that one from doc lenny at the johnson clinic
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absolutely! i apologize before, during and after, then we cry together...wait, "industrial size"? we ain't doing tracheotomies here, but using a needle on someone and having it stuck into self are 2 different things. btw, we call in "throwing darts" ;D got that one from doc lenny at the johnson clinic
You mofos have that big, grey needle with the two loops for fingers for what, a 2 mm injection? Sadists, you dentists are.
And, I used the golf ball rolling, it worked well.
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Tough job wit skilled hands, butt sumwon's gotten do it, hey?
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Tennis balls, frozen water bottles, and see a PT. Seriously, physical therapy is wildly under used, go to a PT listen to what they say and just incorporate their exercises into your daily routine.
Example, I separated my shoulder(grade 3) playing soccer, went to the ortho who wanted to wire my shoulder back together, wife talked me out of it and went to PT instead. I do a couple of strengthen exercises a couple times a week during my regular weight training routine and shoulder feels wonderful and it's been 6 years now
This. Usually “heel pain” is secondary to early heel rise while walking, often either a tight calf muscle or rigid ankle joint. Also could be overpronation (where the arch support would help). Either way need to see a PT who actually knows what they are doing. If the first exercise they give to you is “stretching the fascia” go see someone else.
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Tough job wit skilled hands, butt sumwon's gotten do it, hey?
and it sure beats working on the other end, although sometimes it's hard to tell the difference, heynal doc?
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Having suffered from plantar fasciitis for years, I got fitted for custom orthotics several years ago. They weren't cheap but insurance covered 50%. They completely resolved the problem and I found that they also eliminated back pain when standing or walking for long periods. I also recommend Vionic shoes, particularly for sandals and slip-ons. The key is the high, firm arch support.
I have some vionic sandals. While the arch support is decent and they are comfortable, I generally feel better with a good set of tevas especially if walking more than one should in sandals.
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Are you sure it's plantar fasciitis and not gout?
Either way... try eliminating sugar from your diet, or at the very least added sugars. You'll be surprised at what happens (you'll also be surprised at how difficult it is).
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Eliminate all grains two, hey?
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Are you sure it's plantar fasciitis and not gout?
Either way... try eliminating sugar from your diet, or at the very least added sugars. You'll be surprised at what happens (you'll also be surprised at how difficult it is).
100% sure it isn't gout. just had a full blood work last week-everything was right down the middle. even a full body dermatologist exam yesterday(man she was hot too! :D) i eat very few "sugars". no sweets in the house. we never serve potatoes or rice with our meals. 2-3 vegies, but i've gotta have meat! i am a connoisseur of cabbage salads with olive oil and balsamic vinegar, olives. usually have a jethro boudine sized bowl about 5 times a week as a meal. occasional pasta sugo or tortilla wrap with lots of meat inside. the tortillas are in the freezer so the pack of 8 don't get stiff or moldy between treats.
conclusion- no gout going on here, but thanks for the thought
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have a patient who's a retired podiatrist-he confirmed a lot of the advise given here-golf ball, frozen water bottle roll, shoe arch support inserts, stretching exercises including the achilles, calf, etc plus NSAIDS TID-all massive improvement-there is light at the end of the tunnel boys
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have a patient who's a retired podiatrist-he confirmed a lot of the advise given here-golf ball, frozen water bottle roll, shoe arch support inserts, stretching exercises including the achilles, calf, etc plus NSAIDS TID-all massive improvement-there is light at the end of the tunnel boys
A dentist and a podiatrist walk into a bar. Everyone else walks out.