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Title: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Cheeks on February 12, 2020, 03:09:59 PM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2875377-sleeper-rankings-for-the-2020-mens-ncaa-tournament
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: tower912 on February 12, 2020, 03:15:17 PM
Size, depth at guard, POY.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Cheeks on February 12, 2020, 03:17:25 PM
Size, depth at guard, POY.

Senior guards....
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 12, 2020, 03:19:06 PM
Neat
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: tower912 on February 12, 2020, 03:21:53 PM
Still have to go out and actually do it.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Cheeks on February 12, 2020, 03:30:07 PM
Still have to go out and actually do it.

Crap shoot
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on February 12, 2020, 07:07:03 PM
Said our defense wasn’t good in the article ???
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: skianth16 on February 12, 2020, 07:33:59 PM
Crap shoot

Hedge
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 12, 2020, 08:41:24 PM
Crean sucks
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Johnny B on February 12, 2020, 09:00:14 PM
They're definitely sleeping out there tonight eh
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: 79Warrior on February 13, 2020, 12:12:30 AM
Crap shoot

Yawn.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Cheeks on February 13, 2020, 04:51:50 PM
Yawn.

Coach K
Jay Wright
Coach Izzo
Coach Bennett
Coach Few
Etc

They would like you to wake up your sleepy self.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: muguru on February 13, 2020, 05:54:33 PM
Dan Dakitch said this morning that when people have asked him to give them two "futures" bets for the NCAA tournament, he said he tells them Marquette and Iowa, because both teams can score.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: lawdog77 on February 13, 2020, 06:29:19 PM
Dan Dakitch said this morning that when people have asked him to give them two "futures" bets for the NCAA tournament, he said he tells them Marquette and Iowa, because both teams can score.
yep. he also said a school like Marquette can easily replace Buzz Williams, while Va Tech could not. MU being a basketball only school with lots of resources to throw around.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: 79Warrior on February 13, 2020, 06:32:26 PM
Coach K
Jay Wright
Coach Izzo
Coach Bennett
Coach Few
Etc

They would like you to wake up your sleepy self.

Double yawn.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: NickelDimer on February 13, 2020, 06:58:26 PM
Hedge
Confirmed. Also contradicts the point of posting the article, no?
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: GooooMarquette on February 13, 2020, 10:03:47 PM
Interesting to see the defending National Champions listed as a sleeper and projected 12 seed.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: AZMarqfan on February 13, 2020, 10:16:15 PM
Marquette is a potential sleeper, but I'm worried they won't get out of the 1st round.  It has seemed the last few years like the NCAA games haven't been called as tightly as the regular season.  Perhaps there's a memo that they want games on time (at least that's what my group speculated the last two years).  If Howard shoots 10+ FT in the 1st round, we advance.  But if he can't get the the line much, we don't.  Really would love to see this be a Sweet 16 year. 
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Johnny B on February 13, 2020, 10:32:33 PM
Interesting to see the defending National Champions listed as a sleeper and projected 12 seed.
Why. They lost alot
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 14, 2020, 01:41:05 AM
Size, depth at guard, POY.

girth and length are over-rated though, eyn'a?
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Goose on February 14, 2020, 06:12:25 AM
Sitting here today, I think this group has better chance to make some noise in March than I felt last year at this time. This group is playing good D, rebounding well and seems like multiple guys are stepping up when needed.
Plus college ball is down as a whole and only a few teams that stand out. Lastly, it seems like scoring points is lost art at the college level this season and MU can score. I would be more surprised with a one and done than us playing the second weekend this year.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: GooooMarquette on February 14, 2020, 07:51:59 AM
Why. They lost alot


Not saying I disagree - UVa definitely is a bubble team this season.

It’s just that NC caliber teams typically have the ability to reload, at least to the point of easily getting back into the Dance.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 14, 2020, 08:31:41 AM
Coach K
Jay Wright
Coach Izzo
Coach Bennett
Coach Few
Etc

They would like you to wake up your sleepy self.

makes one wonder if any of their transfers are having any 2nd thoughts?  or will they be "the difference"? 
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on February 14, 2020, 08:32:59 AM
Beat Creighton and we're peaking at the right time. Like the L sinking in during space/drums. #standupforspace
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: skianth16 on February 14, 2020, 08:45:35 AM
Sitting here today, I think this group has better chance to make some noise in March than I felt last year at this time. This group is playing good D, rebounding well and seems like multiple guys are stepping up when needed.
Plus college ball is down as a whole and only a few teams that stand out. Lastly, it seems like scoring points is lost art at the college level this season and MU can score. I would be more surprised with a one and done than us playing the second weekend this year.

Right now, I think I'd agree with you on most of this. This group has done a nice job of fighting through some of the issues they faced earlier in the season (turnovers, traveling, unclear roles, etc), and they seem to really be hitting their stride. Another key thing is that we've got a locker room full of guys that stuck it out through some tough internal situations, which probably gives them a tighter bond and even a little chip on their shoulders.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on February 14, 2020, 09:15:24 AM
Beat Creighton and we're peaking at the right time. Like the L sinking in during space/drums. #standupforspace
I think there's a chance we could win out the regular season
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: SERocks on February 14, 2020, 09:50:57 AM
I think there's a chance we could win out the regular season

This could happen if Markus goes Kemba.  If that happens I would think a final four is not out of the question.

Probably won't.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: swoopem on February 14, 2020, 11:16:24 AM
Beat Creighton and we're peaking at the right time. Like the L sinking in during space/drums. #standupforspace

Beat Creighton and we’re soaring. Like a China>Rider opener
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: brewcity77 on February 14, 2020, 11:33:18 AM
I think there's a chance we could win out the regular season

I think every game from here on out is winnable, so in that sense, I agree. That said, I think it's highly unlikely. I expect 1-2 more losses, and 3-4 wouldn't shock me.

This year in particular I think it matters less than others as far as odds of making a deep run. I prefer the 4 or 6 lines because I hate 5/12 games, but after that, I don't think there's a ton of difference between the 3 and 6 lines from a team quality perspective, and you still likely have to beat a 2 and a 1 to get to the Final Four, the only difference seeding makes is which order you see them in. This isn't a year where you have overwhelming 1-seeds you want to avoid at all costs, and it may actually be better to see a team like SDSU that hasn't faced stiff competition in a long time sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: muguru on February 14, 2020, 11:51:36 AM
I think every game from here on out is winnable, so in that sense, I agree. That said, I think it's highly unlikely. I expect 1-2 more losses, and 3-4 wouldn't shock me.

This year in particular I think it matters less than others as far as odds of making a deep run. I prefer the 4 or 6 lines because I hate 5/12 games, but after that, I don't think there's a ton of difference between the 3 and 6 lines from a team quality perspective, and you still likely have to beat a 2 and a 1 to get to the Final Four, the only difference seeding makes is which order you see them in. This isn't a year where you have overwhelming 1-seeds you want to avoid at all costs, and it may actually be better to see a team like SDSU that hasn't faced stiff competition in a long time sooner rather than later.

If the basketball gods are reading this thread(and why wouldn't they be??  :P). I ask of you two things please...This year in Markus Howard's Senior year, PLEASE give Marquette as easy of a 1st round matchup as possible. Second, please see to it, that there is chaos in their bracket, so it works out that Marquette is playing the lowest possible seed in their 2nd round game. Something like a 13-16 seed would be fantastic! Thank you basketball gods for reading this thread, and considering my request.  8-)

Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 14, 2020, 12:11:05 PM
Signed da Tooth Fairy and da Easter Bunny, aina?
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 14, 2020, 02:55:05 PM
Signed da Tooth Fairy and da Easter Bunny, aina?

Nah, brew is god.  Just ask him, he'll tell you.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: MU82 on February 14, 2020, 03:03:57 PM
Sitting here today, I think this group has better chance to make some noise in March than I felt last year at this time. This group is playing good D, rebounding well and seems like multiple guys are stepping up when needed.
Plus college ball is down as a whole and only a few teams that stand out. Lastly, it seems like scoring points is lost art at the college level this season and MU can score. I would be more surprised with a one and done than us playing the second weekend this year.

Interesting thought, Goose. A year ago, Markus was magical, the Hausers were turning in some huge games, Sacar and Theo were contributing a lot, we were in the top-10 nationally and we were about 10 weeks into a 12-week stretch during which we went 20-2.

I felt DAMN good about our chances last year at this time.

Having said that, I also feel good about our chances now for many of the reasons you (and others) state. We're a good team that can get on a nice roll hitting 3s but also can gut out more ugly wins.

We Are Marquette!

Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Johnny B on February 14, 2020, 03:16:22 PM
If the basketball gods are reading this thread(and why wouldn't they be??  :P). I ask of you two things please...This year in Markus Howard's Senior year, PLEASE give Marquette as easy of a 1st round matchup as possible. Second, please see to it, that there is chaos in their bracket, so it works out that Marquette is playing the lowest possible seed in their 2nd round game. Something like a 13-16 seed would be fantastic! Thank you basketball gods for reading this thread, and considering my request.  8-)
How about we just play well and beat the best instead of hoping to play the low seeds ☻
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 14, 2020, 04:56:40 PM
If the basketball gods are reading this thread(and why wouldn't they be??  :P). I ask of you two things please...This year in Markus Howard's Senior year, PLEASE give Marquette as easy of a 1st round matchup as possible. Second, please see to it, that there is chaos in their bracket, so it works out that Marquette is playing the lowest possible seed in their 2nd round game. Something like a 13-16 seed would be fantastic! Thank you basketball gods for reading this thread, and considering my request.  8-)

Why? Wade didn't need that. 14, 6, 2, 1 all the way to the Final Four.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: MuMark on February 14, 2020, 06:08:37 PM
There’s a chance we could win out.......there’s a chance you could win the lottery.......I wouldn’t bet on either.

Just try to beat Creighton and go from there. They are playing great with recent road wins over. Nova and the Hall.

Tough matchup for us.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: brewcity77 on February 14, 2020, 09:21:28 PM
Nah, brew is god.  Just ask him, he'll tell you.

Not possible, I exist.
Title: Re: NCAA Sleeper teams....MU #3
Post by: BallBoy on February 14, 2020, 09:50:24 PM
If the basketball gods are reading this thread(and why wouldn't they be??  :P). I ask of you two things please...This year in Markus Howard's Senior year, PLEASE give Marquette as easy of a 1st round matchup as possible. Second, please see to it, that there is chaos in their bracket, so it works out that Marquette is playing the lowest possible seed in their 2nd round game. Something like a 13-16 seed would be fantastic! Thank you basketball gods for reading this thread, and considering my request.  8-)

If MU made a deep run then the Wojo can’t win a post season game would end. Blessing.

If your scenario played out the Wojo can’t win against a team seeded higher than him would start. Curse.