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Title: Chiropractic Work
Post by: wadesworld on February 03, 2020, 10:18:05 PM
Has anybody ever had any chiropractic work done? I just recently started seeing a chiropractor for the first time. No serious issues, just the standard tight neck and upper back from sitting at a desk all day. Wouldn’t have even gone to one had I not had a friend working in the field recently move back to Wisconsin.

Didn’t really look into what they’d do or anything about it. Kind of thought it’d just be short term relief, almost like a massage. I’ve been very happy with the results. Seems like it should be longer term relief and feel better than I would’ve guessed I would. Definitely glad I did it.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on February 04, 2020, 04:19:53 AM
I started seeing one nearly 30 years ago after a car accident gave me some whiplash. Now I go every so often for the same reason you do. Absolutely love their work on my neck and back.

Put it this way...I started going to a chiropractor near Northridge Mall and used to do Christmas shopping there afterwards. That’s how long ago that was.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Keithtisbarf on February 04, 2020, 04:30:38 AM
My mom and grandmother both visit a chiropractor regularly for sciatica, regularly meaning once a month. My mom tried acupuncture first but she was going to her dr twice a week and she only felt better for a day or two after her visit. My personal belief is that sticking needles in someone won’t work as well as adjusting your spine back into place. I would recommend chiropractic treatment based on my mom and grandmother’s results.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: tower912 on February 04, 2020, 05:51:47 AM
I have been using one for 28 years.  One of the reasons I am so well adjusted.   I go once every few weeks and the day after a good fire.  For me, an adjustment cuts my recovery time in half.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: lawdog77 on February 04, 2020, 06:01:13 AM
I have been using one for 28 years.  One of the reasons I am so well adjusted.   I go once every few weeks and the day after a good fire.  For me, an adjustment cuts my recovery time in half.
What fires are good?
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: tower912 on February 04, 2020, 06:05:38 AM
Firefighters like fires.   But no, for the people involved, there are no good fires.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: jesmu84 on February 04, 2020, 06:53:58 AM
Don't allow neck adjustments.

You don't need adjustments based on images. You need adjustments/treatment based on symptoms.

Edit: Also, be aware that just like any other profession there are good and bad chiros. They want to call themselves health professionals, which is fine in the event they know their own limitations. Chronic back pain adjustments with positive results is good. Acute pain adjustment with no improvement over several sessions and yet tells you you need 10 more is bad.

Lastly, I hope I don't have to remind anyone that babies/infants/children should not be getting adjustments.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 04, 2020, 07:46:43 AM
Just finished 6 sessions with one plus two of acupuncture after taking a hard hit in hurling. Was absolutely shocked how much it helped.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 04, 2020, 07:59:04 AM
Don't allow neck adjustments.


Shouldn't this be in the recruiting thread
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on February 04, 2020, 10:08:07 AM
Don't allow neck adjustments.

You don't need adjustments based on images. You need adjustments/treatment based on symptoms.
I once let a chiropractic student I hooked up with in Vegas adjust my neck...was that wrong?
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on February 04, 2020, 10:33:29 AM
Thats the high rent district. I dont let them
Go there
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 04, 2020, 11:11:37 AM
I have, I'm not sure it really helped that much with upper back issues. I've experienced more success/relief from acupuncture and cupping for upper and mid back.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Benny B on February 04, 2020, 11:52:28 AM
Don't allow neck adjustments.

You don't need adjustments based on images. You need adjustments/treatment based on symptoms.

Edit: Also, be aware that just like any other profession there are good and bad chiros. They want to call themselves health professionals, which is fine in the event they know their own limitations. Chronic back pain adjustments with positive results is good. Acute pain adjustment with no improvement over several sessions and yet tells you you need 10 more is bad.

Lastly, I hope I don't have to remind anyone that babies/infants/children should not be getting adjustments.

Yes.  Yes.  And yes.

In other words, just keep in mind that chiro is temporary relief from an underlying condition.  There's nothing wrong with this, especially for conditions that have no cure (or the risk outweighs the benefit)... into which most back/hip issues fall.

Nevertheless, be skeptical of people who laud chiropractors because they went to a chiro once and their condition subsided completely.  Most of these folks tend to erroneously ascribe their improvement to the chiropractor (rather than the healing power of the human body) or they're simply lying to themselves about feeling better.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Jay Bee on February 04, 2020, 12:19:14 PM
ZFB's chiro (62 yo guy) has him strip down before going to work, which I've always thought was odd.

I wouldn't let a chiro touch my neck because I have a cadaver bone, titanium plate, and screws in my spine... can be DANGEROUS!

Anything more than a rug n tug and I'd recommend talking to some neurosurgeon's first to get their views on chiros
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Warrior Code on February 04, 2020, 12:29:55 PM
I'm a proponent. I've used one and had success with it. I think utilizing a chiropractor who knows what they're doing is a benefit to a person's overall health. All nerves run from the brain through the spinal column to the rest of the body, so any disturbance in the spine can impede nerve function and the corresponding organs/tissues further "down stream." Fixing imbalances is not an instant cure, but it can free the body allow better connections and allow it to heal itself. Over time, you can exist more the way your body was intended, efficient and pain-free. Effective treatment can help people not only with back pain, but stress/sleep problems, digestion, migraines, etc. 

Like jes said, there are good ones and bad ones. I think a lot of people have a negative image of chiropractors because they think a visit to one will completely and instantly erase some pain they've had daily for years. If your back has hurt for five years, you simply cannot "fix" that in an afternoon. Any chiro who promises this isn't worth the paper their diploma is printed on. Make them explain what they want to do and why before assenting to any treatment. Get x-rays. If you're uncomfortable with any treatment or adjustment, say no. Ask around. Do your homework, and I bet you can find a good one.

Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: real chili 83 on February 04, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
I go to someone I've seen for 20 years.  Nuff said.

There are some really bad ones though too, just like MD's. 

Good Chiro's have really good nutritional education...better than MD's.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: jficke13 on February 04, 2020, 12:36:47 PM
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/how-chiropractic-started-as-a-ghost-48498573/

Fun story. The dude who invented it was a grifter from Canada who claimed to cure deafness in a janitor by poking him in the neck and to have come upon the miraculous secrets of chiropractic medicine by attending seances and contacting the spirit of a dead doctor.

Also tried to get Chiropracty labeled a religion to avoid paying taxes.

Tax evasion I can support, but the rest...
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 04, 2020, 12:51:31 PM
ZFB's chiro (62 yo guy) has him strip down before going to work, which I've always thought was odd.

I wouldn't let a chiro touch my neck because I have a cadaver bone, titanium plate, and screws in my spine... can be DANGEROUS!

Anything more than a rug n tug and I'd recommend talking to some neurosurgeon's first to get their views on chiros

Mine's actually a somewhat busty 35 year old.

Different chiros do different things.  My prior one had this back stretching table that gave relief to compressed discs.  Awesome, but he was kindo of a wierdo, so i stopped going.

My new one, she does testing and can show the under/over active nerves,  the stress points, etc.

Key is that it is an ongoing treatment, once a week, get adjusted and feel good for a few days.   Some people dont like the maintenance part, to each their own.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: tower912 on February 04, 2020, 01:44:15 PM
I have also used acupuncture.   I use that more for tendonitis away from my spine.  Elbows, shoulders.  I used it once at the suggestion of my chiropractor for a sciatica issue that just wouldn't release.

I do the maintenance.  Still able to fight fire, coach multiple sports, walk 18 holes carrying a bag in under 3 hours, well into my 50s.   I don't give chiropractic full credit, bit it certainly has helped.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 04, 2020, 01:48:48 PM
I have also used acupuncture.   I use that more for tendonitis away from my spine.  Elbows, shoulders.  I used it once at the suggestion of my chiropractor for a sciatica issue that just wouldn't release.

I do the maintenance.  Still able to fight fire, coach multiple sports, walk 18 holes carrying a bag in under 3 hours, well into my 50s.   I don't give chiropractic full credit, bit it certainly has helped.

A coworker had a disc slip into his spinal column (at least mine slipped out) and acupuncture was the only thing that helped him. I used to get awful trap pain that would cause headaches and acupuncture helped that. It's not a permanent solution but that and cupping have been great for maintenance and pain management, especially as I train for a half marathon.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Benny B on February 04, 2020, 02:20:50 PM
I go to someone I've seen for 20 years.  Nuff said.

There are some really bad ones though too, just like MD's. 

Good Chiro's have really good nutritional education...better than MD's.

Fun Fact #1: Ask an MD how much of their med school training was devoted to nutrition.  Just about every single one will tell you "None."

Fun Fact #2: Ask the same questions of a DO, and the majority will respond with at least "some" to both. 

[American Association of Colleges of Osteopathic Medicine (AACOM) members average 15 hours of nutrition training (even though AACOM recommends 25 hours).]

Fun Fact #3: Aside from the philosophical approach, DO and MD education is strikingly similar with one exception: DO's receive training in Osteopathic Manipulative Treatment, which is a much more sophisticated version of the chiropractic method.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: jesmu84 on February 04, 2020, 03:21:46 PM
Be wary especially of chiros (but sometimes DOs who do manual manipulation) who claim that spinal adjustments and manipulation of nerves can cure/alleviate nearly every condition of the body including diseases like diabetes
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: keefe on February 04, 2020, 03:29:34 PM
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Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 04, 2020, 03:34:37 PM
Be wary especially of chiros (but sometimes DOs who do manual manipulation) who claim that spinal adjustments and manipulation of nerves can cure/alleviate nearly every condition of the body including diseases like diabetes

There is a chiropractor with kids at my kids school.   They don't vaccinate because chiropractic.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: keefe on February 04, 2020, 03:45:16 PM
There is a chiropractor with kids at my kids school.   They don't vaccinate because chiropractic.

Those kids shouldn't be allowed in school. Not vaccinating puts an entire population at risk.

Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 04, 2020, 03:49:34 PM
Those kids shouldn't be allowed in school. Not vaccinating puts an entire population at risk.

Agreed, especially kids with other disorders that either have a weakened immune system or can't get vaccinated due to legitimate medical reasons.

They also dont treat their kid for ADHD because chiropractic.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: keefe on February 04, 2020, 03:52:51 PM

Not all forms of massage provide therapeutic benefit.
Until recently massage wasn't accepted as a legitimate form of health care.
Relief can find expression in many ways.
Unleashing one's inner force can provide an exquisite peace.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: tower912 on February 04, 2020, 04:00:39 PM
I don't believe chiropractic is a panacea.   For me, it is a piece in the health puzzle.   
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: real chili 83 on February 04, 2020, 04:01:42 PM
What do you call a doctor that finishes last in their graduating class?




Doctor.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on February 04, 2020, 05:39:05 PM
My wife used to go to a Chiro that was a male Adonis  Tall, Blonde and incredibly built. He was the USC and U.S. Olympic water polo coach and was the model for the naked statue outside the LA Colosseum. I convinced her to go to a short, chubby Jewish chiropractor with whom we were friends instead.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 04, 2020, 05:50:07 PM
My wife used to go to a Chiro that was a male Adonis  Tall, Blonde and incredibly built. He was the USC and U.S. Olympic water polo coach and was the model for the naked statue outside the LA Colosseum. I convinced her to go to a short, chubby Jewish chiropractor with whom we were friends instead.

dude, that was your chance to start seeing a busty, exotic masseuse with loose morals.

We'll chalk that up to a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 05, 2020, 06:08:42 AM
Not all forms of massage provide therapeutic benefit.
Until recently massage wasn't accepted as a legitimate form of health care.
Relief can find expression in many ways.
Unleashing one's inner force can provide an exquisite peace.

Where i come from, we just call that poaching the one-eyed albino rhino.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Keithtisbarf on February 05, 2020, 05:35:56 PM
dude, that was your chance to start seeing a busty, exotic masseuse with loose morals.

We'll chalk that up to a missed opportunity.

There have been a lot of Asian massage places busted in the Milwaukee area lately  for prostitution. There may still be some around that haven’t been shut down.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Jay Bee on February 05, 2020, 07:05:39 PM
There have been a lot of Asian massage places busted in the Milwaukee area lately  for prostitution. There may still be some around that haven’t been shut down.

Ooooh, there are.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 05, 2020, 07:27:01 PM
There have been a lot of Asian massage places busted in the Milwaukee area lately  for prostitution. There may still be some around that haven’t been shut down.

sooooo...all the other "massage places" have been allowed to do biness as usual then?  not fair!  hey wait...that has a tinge of something wrong with it from a few angles, eyn'a?
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 05, 2020, 07:47:23 PM
sooooo...all the other "massage places" have been allowed to do biness as usual then?  not fair!  hey wait...that has a tinge of something wrong with it from a few angles, eyn'a?

A lot of East German massage parlors down your way, eh kin?
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Keithtisbarf on February 05, 2020, 11:41:09 PM
sooooo...all the other "massage places" have been allowed to do biness as usual then?  not fair!  hey wait...that has a tinge of something wrong with it from a few angles, eyn'a?

The other massage places, as in ones that aren’t fronts for prostitution can do “biness”

This is the most recent news story
https://www.wisn.com/article/massage-parlor-shut-down-in-prostitution-investigation/30578057

Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on February 06, 2020, 05:28:14 PM
dude, that was your chance to start seeing a busty, exotic masseuse with loose morals.

We'll chalk that up to a missed opportunity.

  Crap!  I should have Carpe'd that Diem 
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 06, 2020, 07:52:48 PM
The other massage places, as in ones that aren’t fronts for prostitution can do “biness”

This is the most recent news story
https://www.wisn.com/article/massage-parlor-shut-down-in-prostitution-investigation/30578057

ohhhhh, happy family...i thought you said happy ending...
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Coleman on February 12, 2020, 03:44:47 PM
I'm a proponent. I've used one and had success with it. I think utilizing a chiropractor who knows what they're doing is a benefit to a person's overall health. All nerves run from the brain through the spinal column to the rest of the body, so any disturbance in the spine can impede nerve function and the corresponding organs/tissues further "down stream." Fixing imbalances is not an instant cure, but it can free the body allow better connections and allow it to heal itself. Over time, you can exist more the way your body was intended, efficient and pain-free. Effective treatment can help people not only with back pain, but stress/sleep problems, digestion, migraines, etc. 


This is the part about chiropractic claims that is just not backed up by any science. It can offer pain relief, especially lower back pain, and that's fine if you seek chiropractice adjustments for lower back pain relief. But that is really the limit of any scientific evidence for efficacy of treatment. There is zero evidence chiropractic is effective at treating any other condition. It is all pseudoscience.

I just want to echo what others said about neck adjustments. They are dangerous. Don't do it.
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Coleman on February 12, 2020, 03:45:37 PM
Mine's actually a somewhat busty 35 year old.

I'm gonna need a reference....
Title: Re: Chiropractic Work
Post by: Coleman on February 12, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
that was a male Adonis

Adonis is male