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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 12:43:36 PM

Title: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 12:43:36 PM
Make the changes, based on what you have seen out of the team so far this year.    Possible options, IMO...

1. Start Jayce.    Theo's hand is impacting him on both ends of the floor and he is getting called for the most ridiculous non fouls imaginable.    Change the calculus by bringing him off the bench.   
2.  Start Greg over Koby.    Koby is living too much in his own head right now.    Bring him off the bench, remove the pressure from him.   
3.  Jamal for Sacar.    Just the opposite of Koby.    Piss Sacar off and let him come in angry and looking to attack.     He has been reluctant to finish through contact and is getting pushed around on the defensive boards.   Let him take his fury out on an opponent.   
4.   Burpees in practice for every time there is an open lane and the basket is not attacked.   
5.   I do not yet believe that Symir is the answer at the point.    His freshman-ness was exposed against SH.    Patience.   
6.  Start using Bailey as the screener.    He is so close to taking off and taking over.   
7.   Consider two bigs against physical teams.    I feel the Providence game was lost on the defensive boards, by a more physical team pushing MU around.    Push back.   Use Ed at the 4 instead of the 5.   Because Cooley was waiting for Ed to come in at the 5 and started feeding the post incessantly until Ed came out. 

I don't know what would work.    Maybe none.   But, if you were coaching the team, what say you?
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: wadesworld on January 13, 2020, 12:56:49 PM
Put Markus on the ball and keep Markus on the ball.  He gets beat up even more off the ball than he does and he's not particularly good at getting himself free while off the ball.  Our best game was against Villanova and we came out with Markus on the ball.  It set an aggressive tone immediately, and Koby even had a great game.

Agreed on making Bailey the screener, though not all the time.  If the opponent is willing to go straight switch on the ball with Markus rather than hedge and recover, have the bigs be the screeners and let Markus attack that mismatch all day.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Jay Bee on January 13, 2020, 01:00:49 PM
pray
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: CTWarrior on January 13, 2020, 01:11:37 PM
For stretches of the game dump the three headed C and play Cain at the 5 and run, run, run.  Run the boring old weave from 2016-17, get the match ups you want and drive and dish.  Pressure full court after makes and use the bench a little more to give breathers.  Switch defenses regularly in the half court.  Paint touches are a thing for good reason.  Much better shooting percentage when the ball comes out from the interior than from perimeter passes. 

Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Jockey on January 13, 2020, 01:16:11 PM
Make the changes, based on what you have seen out of the team so far this year.    Possible options, IMO...

 
7.   Consider two bigs against physical teams.    I feel the Providence game was lost on the defensive boards, by a more physical team pushing MU around.    Push back.   Use Ed at the 4 instead of the 5.   Because Cooley was waiting for Ed to come in at the 5 and started feeding the post incessantly until Ed came out. 



I don't think you can have 2 guys who can barely sniff 50% on layups on the floor together unless you plan on 40 shots a game for Howard.

I do like the Elliot for Koby move until Koby gets straightened out - if he does.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 01:25:24 PM
I don't think you can have 2 guys who can barely sniff 50% on layups on the floor together unless you plan on 40 shots for Howard.

I do like the Elliot for Koby move until Koby gets straightened out - if he does.

At least there would be two offensive rebounders.   

I agree that the lack of production from the MU bigs is a compelling reason to not play two of them together.    However, getting pushed around under the boards, particularly late, directly contributed to a close home loss.   
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 13, 2020, 01:43:32 PM
One thing I've noticed this year vs. prior years is how consistent our starting 5 has been. I like the idea of changing it up to keep guys competing for a top spot. Wojo has mentioned in the past that a starting spot was a reward for working hard in practice, so I could see how having a locked in starting 5 might result in some sleepwalking at times. I'd keep the 5 spot up for grabs every game.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: CountryRoads on January 13, 2020, 01:45:07 PM
I don't think you can have 2 guys who can barely sniff 50% on layups on the floor together unless you plan on 40 shots a game for Howard.

I do like the Elliot for Koby move until Koby gets straightened out - if he does.

Markus and Koby don’t seem to have the best chemistry playing together. I’ve noticed this probably a dozen times this year where they are not on the same page and one gets visibly frustrated at the other. Seems to be an elephant in the room that needs to be addressed. 
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 13, 2020, 01:54:05 PM
For stretches of the game dump the three headed C and play Cain at the 5 and run, run, run.  Run the boring old weave from 2016-17, get the match ups you want and drive and dish.  Pressure full court after makes and use the bench a little more to give breathers.  Switch defenses regularly in the half court.  Paint touches are a thing for good reason.  Much better shooting percentage when the ball comes out from the interior than from perimeter passes.

I like this. Personally, I'd like to try Brendan at the 5 instead of Cain, but the idea remains the same. We talked a lot this past summer about how much more athletic this year's team is than last year's, and while that has helped us on the defensive end, we haven't felt the same benefits on offense. I would love to see this team push the ball in transition more often. Go get some easy baskets in the fast break.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on January 13, 2020, 02:06:22 PM
pray


Yeah this is pretty much where I am.  I just don't see Wojo changing his basic approach.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on January 13, 2020, 02:07:30 PM
For stretches of the game dump the three headed C and play Cain at the 5 and run, run, run.  Run the boring old weave from 2016-17, get the match ups you want and drive and dish.  Pressure full court after makes and use the bench a little more to give breathers.  Switch defenses regularly in the half court.  Paint touches are a thing for good reason.  Much better shooting percentage when the ball comes out from the interior than from perimeter passes. 




I like this idea.  You can even hide Cain on defense by packing in a zone against a poor shooting team.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: brewcity77 on January 13, 2020, 02:11:49 PM
I like Greg for Koby & Jamal for Sacar. Starting Jayce also seems worth a shot. I would also...

1) Slow the pace. We have shooters, and the fewer possessions we play, the more valuable threes become. Hopefully a more deliberate pace would also help with turnovers by playing under control.

2) Keep the bigs home. We've been killed on back door cuts and teams just driving by our guys into an empty lane. Keep the bigs in the lane so the defenders can funnel drivers into them. Sam excelled at this despite not having the foot speed. If these guys can't stay in front of their guy, keep the help big in the middle.

3) Feed Bailey. He's the closest thing to a second option I trust. Yes, he was bad at SHU, but he's the best mismatch option and has been more consistent than Koby or Sacar.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: CTWarrior on January 13, 2020, 02:18:57 PM
I like this. Personally, I'd like to try Brendan at the 5 instead of Cain, but the idea remains the same. We talked a lot this past summer about how much more athletic this year's team is than last year's, and while that has helped us on the defensive end, we haven't felt the same benefits on offense. I would love to see this team push the ball in transition more often. Go get some easy baskets in the fast break.
Yeah it wasn't so much put Cain at the 5 as it was replace whoever is the C with Cain instead of one of the other Cs.  Which guy actually plays the 5 on D is not as relevant.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Markusquette on January 13, 2020, 02:23:17 PM
No to putting Cain in the starting lineup. He's already regressed upon conference play starting. I'd rather have Anim in from the tip. I'm fine with Greg for Koby and even Jayce as the starting 5. Although I do not see either change being made. I think MU needs more of the athletic guys cutting and getting to the hoop off ball. Bailey, Anim, Cain and even Koby. Teams feed off of dunks and assists. Even a few more oops or passes inside will help the outside game too.

I'd like to see if we can get Jayce some touches really deep in the paint vs. teams that are smaller. Yes I know he missed a bunny the other game but he's sadly the most capable in the low post so far.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 02:25:35 PM
I see no center as a recipe to get massacred on the boards in conference.   If the H's had stayed, I would have advocated for stretches of two Hausers and a Bailey up front.   Alas, that letter was sent.   
I don't see a lineup with Bailey or Cain as the de facto big as being able to keep up on the boards.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 13, 2020, 02:27:11 PM
pray



And keep hope alive, aina?
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 13, 2020, 02:42:32 PM
Well.....Marquette has beaten Villanova and took an 11 point lead on the road at Seton Hall.
Providence was bigger and more physical at every position and Marquette still should have won that game.
Creighton was the first conference game, and on the road. It didn't help that Koby got hurt right before that game. I'm not sure when Theo hurt his wrist, but I think it was a problem as early as the CU game. Regardless, Marquette cut the lead to six at one point in the second half so something was being done to adjust.

I agree with some on this site who believe personnel choices aren't the problem.....Its the personnel themselves. The Hausers production from mid season last year hasn't been replicated by any combination of players. That's not to say some combination still couldn't.

I believe that combination is still going to be Markus, a more assertive Sacar and Brendan, a more confident and assertive Koby, and Theo adjusting to his wrist and avoiding phantom foul calls.

As far as the other guys go......
Greg is injured....again.....
Markus-centric basketball seems to have stunted Jamals development.
Ed and Jayce will continue to be who they are. Defense, rebounds, and foul sponges.
Symir will continue to get more run as the season progresses and his grasp of the defense improves.

I guess what I'm saying is.........

We already have a coach.

Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on January 13, 2020, 02:56:09 PM
Make the changes, based on what you have seen out of the team so far this year.    Possible options, IMO...

1. Start Jayce.    Theo's hand is impacting him on both ends of the floor and he is getting called for the most ridiculous non fouls imaginable.    Change the calculus by bringing him off the bench.   
2.  Start Greg over Koby.    Koby is living too much in his own head right now.    Bring him off the bench, remove the pressure from him.   
3.  Jamal for Sacar.    Just the opposite of Koby.    Piss Sacar off and let him come in angry and looking to attack.     He has been reluctant to finish through contact and is getting pushed around on the defensive boards.   Let him take his fury out on an opponent.   
4.   Burpees in practice for every time there is an open lane and the basket is not attacked.   
5.   I do not yet believe that Symir is the answer at the point.    His freshman-ness was exposed against SH.    Patience.   
6.  Start using Bailey as the screener.    He is so close to taking off and taking over.   
7.   Consider two bigs against physical teams.    I feel the Providence game was lost on the defensive boards, by a more physical team pushing MU around.    Push back.   Use Ed at the 4 instead of the 5.   Because Cooley was waiting for Ed to come in at the 5 and started feeding the post incessantly until Ed came out. 

I don't know what would work.    Maybe none.   But, if you were coaching the team, what say you?

Tower, great post but the reality of the situation is no one on this board (I hope...) has the insight into the individual players that would allow us to have a real informed opinion.

Each of these young men has a different psyche, different buttons to push and different skills sets that can be maximized.  In my opinion, it is clear that the current staff is trying to force the team into a system that looks like it does not maximize the potential of the team.

If I were coach, I would stop trying to force a system onto the team.  I would try to find systems that would get the most out of the parts that make up the team.

A squishy answer, I know, but the best coaches make adjustments to fit personnel and I think we could use some of that.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 03:05:36 PM
So, Bo could go zone and up tempo, Bennett could press, and Boeheim would go man if the players dictated it?
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 13, 2020, 03:09:32 PM
I like Greg for Koby & Jamal for Sacar. Starting Jayce also seems worth a shot. I would also...

1) Slow the pace. We have shooters, and the fewer possessions we play, the more valuable threes become. Hopefully a more deliberate pace would also help with turnovers by playing under control.

2) Keep the bigs home. We've been killed on back door cuts and teams just driving by our guys into an empty lane. Keep the bigs in the lane so the defenders can funnel drivers into them. Sam excelled at this despite not having the foot speed. If these guys can't stay in front of their guy, keep the help big in the middle.

3) Feed Bailey. He's the closest thing to a second option I trust. Yes, he was bad at SHU, but he's the best mismatch option and has been more consistent than Koby or Sacar.

I totally get where this is coming from. That said, I feel like when we slow it down, the offense also goes stagnant (or it may be my confirmation bias). When the ball is moving crisply and they are looking for shots rather than waiting, the shot selection is better and more guys are aggressive.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 13, 2020, 03:12:55 PM
Make the changes, based on what you have seen out of the team so far this year.    Possible options, IMO...

1. Start Jayce.    Theo's hand is impacting him on both ends of the floor and he is getting called for the most ridiculous non fouls imaginable.    Change the calculus by bringing him off the bench.   
2.  Start Greg over Koby.    Koby is living too much in his own head right now.    Bring him off the bench, remove the pressure from him.   
3.  Jamal for Sacar.    Just the opposite of Koby.    Piss Sacar off and let him come in angry and looking to attack.     He has been reluctant to finish through contact and is getting pushed around on the defensive boards.   Let him take his fury out on an opponent.   
4.   Burpees in practice for every time there is an open lane and the basket is not attacked.   
5.   I do not yet believe that Symir is the answer at the point.    His freshman-ness was exposed against SH.    Patience.   
6.  Start using Bailey as the screener.    He is so close to taking off and taking over.   
7.   Consider two bigs against physical teams.    I feel the Providence game was lost on the defensive boards, by a more physical team pushing MU around.    Push back.   Use Ed at the 4 instead of the 5.   Because Cooley was waiting for Ed to come in at the 5 and started feeding the post incessantly until Ed came out. 

I don't know what would work.    Maybe none.   But, if you were coaching the team, what say you?
We need some interior offensive production in the worst way so need to find a way to get some easy buckets to get confidence up or at the very least pick up some fouls on opposing teams' bigs. 

Run p&r but with Sacar/Koby/Greg/Symir as the ball handler and actually try to feed the big rolling to the basket.  For whatever reason, Markus just can't/won't make that play even though it is wide open multiple times per game, perhaps because the other team is so focused on crowding him with the big to prevent the 3.  Pick and roll action works, let's change the personnel and see if we can't generate some offensive activity going towards the basket. 
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Elonsmusk on January 13, 2020, 03:16:19 PM
Symir at PG
Markus at SG
Sacar at 3
Bailey at 4
Theo at 5

Koby/Greg serve as sub for any of Markus, Symir, Sacar.

Cain serves as sub for either Bailey or Sacar.

I agree that Markus and Koby aren't very compatible together.  Symir is a true PG and he would greatly help all of Markus, Sacar, Bailey and Theo with his pass first mentality.  His defense will improve.

Wojo has NEVER allowed for a true PG to run the team, other than Traci Carter briefly.  Insanity to continue to go with a shoot first player running PG at this point.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: dgies9156 on January 13, 2020, 03:18:33 PM
OK gang, how many of you are in practice? How many of you see the medical detail on the injuries?

That's what I thought.

Coach knows this stuff and he knows his players better than we do. I don't claim to be a basketball coach and I don't think Coach Wojo claims to be able to do my job either.

Keep in mind we beat Villanova, Purdue, Kansas State and USC. Every player we questioned has had moments of brilliance and every "replacement" has had moments of well, yuck. Them's the breaks.

 We're early into the season with lots of room to fix what ails us. if we do, great. If we don't, then I know someone whose seat will be very warm!
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: drbob on January 13, 2020, 03:23:12 PM
Funny you should say that Tower, but I always thought that last year Wojo should have played Joey at the 5 along with Sam and Brendan.  Not having a scoring 5 spot really cramps the offense. If we had gotten Tillman we would be light years better.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 03:34:06 PM
Funny you should say that Tower, but I always thought that last year Wojo should have played Joey at the 5 along with Sam and Brendan.  Not having a scoring 5 spot really cramps the offense. If we had gotten Tillman we would be light years better.
I occasionally thought it last year, too, but decided that Joey wasn't strong enough to guard a five for extended periods.  A five out offense with all screeners able to spot up as well as roll would have been a fun wrinkle.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 13, 2020, 03:41:12 PM
I see no center as a recipe to get massacred on the boards in conference.   If the H's had stayed, I would have advocated for stretches of two Hausers and a Bailey up front.   Alas, that letter was sent.   
I don't see a lineup with Bailey or Cain as the de facto big as being able to keep up on the boards.

I think Brendan could hold his own for stretches on the boards. In conference play he's had 11, 3, 8, 11 RBs so far, averaging 8.3 per game. Theo is at 4.5 per game, and Jayce is at 6.8 per game. He probably couldn't go long stretches in the role, but I think there's some opportunity here.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: cheebs09 on January 13, 2020, 03:44:54 PM
I have no data, but are most of our PnR’s with Markus using the center? That’s pick and pop play with Sam was lethal. Do we run that with Bailey or Sacar? When it’s just a big, they can double Markus since our bigs really aren’t much of a threat on the roll.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 03:46:58 PM
I think Brendan could hold his own for stretches on the boards. In conference play he's had 11, 3, 8, 11 RBs so far, averaging 8.3 per game. Theo is at 4.5 per game, and Jayce is at 6.8 per game. He probably couldn't go long stretches in the role, but I think there's some opportunity here.



As a 4 with another big in the game.   And, BTW, his rebounding is a huge improvement.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on January 13, 2020, 03:57:00 PM
So, Bo could go zone and up tempo, Bennett could press, and Boeheim would go man if the players dictated it?

Is it possible?  Sure. 

Do they have to?  No.  In the cases you reference, each of these coaches recruits players that specifically fit a system and do it well.  Wojo does not seem to have done this kind of targeted recruiting.  We have players who have been near-hopeless in man-to-man defense.  Others who do not seem to understand defensive rotation required in a zone. It's a mix and match and that is part of the problem.

And you left Bobby Knight going zone off the list.

Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 13, 2020, 03:58:43 PM
3) Feed Bailey. He's the closest thing to a second option I trust. Yes, he was bad at SHU, but he's the best mismatch option and has been more consistent than Koby or Sacar.

Based on a quick review of Sacar and Brendan's game by game offensive stats, Sacar looks more consistent to me. A lot more consistent. Brendan has had a couple of very good games but has also had some very bad games. He's really been all over the place. The four game conference stretch has been a good example of this.

Sacar in the month of December was a very consistent second scoring option. He scored in double figures in all 6 games and shot over 50% from the field and from 3. This is what I think he's capable of doing on a regular basis. Looking across the full season, he's been in double digits in 10 games and only had one game scoring fewer than 6 points. Brendan, on the other hand, has scored in double digits only 4 times and has scored fewer than 6 in 8 games.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on January 13, 2020, 04:23:12 PM
If I am Wojo I fire myself and concede to the fact that I am a terrible coach. Deep down as Wojo I know I can recruit players, but unfortunately, I cant coach them.

Our team is mediocre, has been for years. Allowing this below average coach carry on is a disservice to the program. Anyone who still thinks Wojo is the guy has accepted losing, and therefore is a loser. All the fuc*in excuses about this and that are worthless. The guy cant win and we havent won, period.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 13, 2020, 04:25:36 PM
Is it possible?  Sure. 

Do they have to?  No.  In the cases you reference, each of these coaches recruits players that specifically fit a system and do it well.  Wojo does not seem to have done this kind of targeted recruiting.  We have players who have been hopeless and man-to-man defense.  Others who do not seem to understand defensive rotation required in a zone. It's a mix and match and that is part of the problem.

And you left Bobby Knight going zone off the list.

I think if Wojo believed the team was at the level where they could seamlessly transition back and forth from MTM to zone with no drop off in proficiency in either defense he might do it. They're Obviously not.

Wojo seems to be trying to get the players to do one thing and do it right. Kinda like Bo. The MTM might get better over the course of the season if Marquette commits to it. There have been moments where it clicked already this season.
Sticking to one defense also helps the team by keeping them focused and not dividing their attention between two competing defensive schemes.

MTM seems to be the hill Wojo is willing to die for.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 13, 2020, 04:26:24 PM

2) Keep the bigs home. We've been killed on back door cuts and teams just driving by our guys into an empty lane. Keep the bigs in the lane so the defenders can funnel drivers into them. Sam excelled at this despite not having the foot speed. If these guys can't stay in front of their guy, keep the help big in the middle.

 
I believe this is something we Must try. Absolutely getting killed here.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 13, 2020, 04:34:31 PM
I believe this is something we Must try. Absolutely getting killed here.

And it is a redux of two years ago.  It was maddening then...
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 13, 2020, 05:23:47 PM
If I am Wojo I fire myself and concede to the fact that I am a terrible coach. Deep down as Wojo I know I can recruit players, but unfortunately, I cant coach them.

Our team is mediocre, has been for years. Allowing this below average coach carry on is a disservice to the program. Anyone who still thinks Wojo is the guy has accepted losing, and therefore is a loser. All the fuc*in excuses about this and that are worthless. The guy cant win and we havent won, period.

Marquette won last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that. 
Marquette also made the NCAA tournament two out of the last three years.
 
I know, I know, regular season records and tournament appearances don't matter.

By that logic, winning a game in the NCAA tournament doesn't matter either, because the only real winner in the NCAA tournament is the eventual champion. The rest are all LOSERS.

My main question is....... Why do people who want Wojo gone feel they need to misrepresent his record of success??
Maybe it's because they know if they cited Wojos actual record it would undermine their argument.

Newsflash.....People that support keeping Wojo have their memories and record books to debunk those exaggerated claims related to Wojos history of success.

The decision to resort to fabrications by those who want Wojo gone only reinforces my belief that their opinions should be discounted and that the opinions of those who support keeping him should be given additional weight.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 13, 2020, 05:25:06 PM
If I am Wojo I fire myself and concede to the fact that I am a terrible coach. Deep down as Wojo I know I can recruit players, but unfortunately, I cant coach them.

Our team is mediocre, has been for years. Allowing this below average coach carry on is a disservice to the program. Anyone who still thinks Wojo is the guy has accepted losing, and therefore is a loser. All the fuc*in excuses about this and that are worthless. The guy cant win and we havent won, period.

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Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 05:27:21 PM
Marquette won last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that. 
Marquette also made the NCAA tournament two out of the last three years.
 
I know, I know, regular season records and tournament appearances don't matter.

By that logic Winning a game in the NCAA tournament doesn't matter, because the only real winner in the NCAA tournament is the eventual champion. The rest are all LOSERS.

My main question is....... Why do people who want Wojo gone feel they need to or have the right to misrepresent his record of success??
Maybe it's because they know if they cited Wojos actual record it would undermine their argument.

Newsflash.....People that support keeping Wojo have their memories and record books to debunk those exaggerated claims related to Wojos history of success.

The decision to resort to fabrications by those who want Wojo gone only reinforces my belief that their opinions should be discounted and that the opinions of those who support keeping him should be given additional weight.
If MU finishes the way I think they will, Wojo will have won around 70 games in 3 years and 110 in years 2-6.    Who fires a coach who averages 22 wins over a 5 year span?     Especially if he is averaging 23-24 over the last 3?      Now, clearly there is room for improvement, particularly in the post-season.   But seriously.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Jockey on January 13, 2020, 05:31:09 PM
At least there would be two offensive rebounders.   

I agree that the lack of production from the MU bigs is a compelling reason to not play two of them together.    However, getting pushed around under the boards, particularly late, directly contributed to a close home loss.   

I wouldn't mind it being done at specific times, but not as a regular thing.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 05:32:05 PM
I wouldn't mind it being done at specific times, but not as a regular thing.

Agreed.    But, getting crushed on the boards is one of those specific times, IMO.   
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 13, 2020, 05:33:21 PM
If MU finishes the way I think they will, Wojo will have won around 70 games in 3 years and 110 in years 2-6.    Who fires a coach who averages 22 wins over a 5 year span?     Especially if he is averaging 23-24 over the last 3?      Now, clearly there is room for improvement, particularly in the post-season.   But seriously.

I see everything you said, and I raise you a top ten recruiting class.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: panda on January 13, 2020, 06:12:08 PM
I see everything you said, and I raise you a top ten recruiting class.

500 in conference every year save his first year and last year. Last year was great until choking away a BE title that was firmly in the grasp.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 13, 2020, 06:20:51 PM
500 in conference every year save his first year and last year. Last year was great until choking away a BE title that was firmly in the grasp.

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Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 13, 2020, 06:28:28 PM
If MU finishes the way I think they will, Wojo will have won around 70 games in 3 years and 110 in years 2-6.    Who fires a coach who averages 22 wins over a 5 year span?     Especially if he is averaging 23-24 over the last 3?      Now, clearly there is room for improvement, particularly in the post-season.   But seriously.

Considering a lot of what you're relying on for your argument hasn't happened, it's pretty easy to paint a rosy picture.

You're suggesting that you think we'll win 23-25 games this year, though (or being awfully generous when rounding up). We have 11 wins now and have 15 more guaranteed games. I'd say we win at best 2 in the BET, which means we'd still need to get 10 more wins of the 15 remaining to hit the low end of your estimate. Seems a little on the optimistic side of reality to me, but it's not out of the question.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 13, 2020, 06:31:44 PM
I do believe MU will finish the year with 23-25 wins.   Counting postseason.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 13, 2020, 06:49:55 PM
I do believe MU will finish the year with 23-25 wins.   Counting postseason.

With that target, I'd say it's fair to assume that there's 1-3 post season wins included in your range. That still leaves 11 wins needed in the regular season, which is going to be tough. On the plus side, we've already played 3 of the toughest conference games, so that will help. One the down side, we've had a very tough time in road games and still have 7 more away games.

I'll say this, if your prediction comes true, I'd be ecstatic, and I would give a ton of credit to Wojo for that kind of result. If we finish with 12 wins in the Big East, or if a few more of the wins you're projecting end up coming in the post season, that would be a great way to end the year and to close out Markus Howard's collegiate career. I'm not on the same page as you, but let's hope you're right.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Carl on January 13, 2020, 10:36:00 PM
Considering a lot of what you're relying on for your argument hasn't happened, it's pretty easy to paint a rosy picture.

You're suggesting that you think we'll win 23-25 games this year, though (or being awfully generous when rounding up). We have 11 wins now and have 15 more guaranteed games. I'd say we win at best 2 in the BET, which means we'd still need to get 10 more wins of the 15 remaining to hit the low end of your estimate. Seems a little on the optimistic side of reality to me, but it's not out of the question.

Literally 92% of what he's relying on has already happened.  He's projecting the last 15 games of a 180+ game sample size over 6 years
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 13, 2020, 11:03:37 PM
Literally 92% of what he's relying on has already happened.  He's projecting the last 15 games of a 180+ game sample size over 6 years

He's relying on the remainder of this season to show that Wojo has a record good enough to silence the doubters. The conversation is purely about what hasn't happened, as noted by the rest of the post you quoted.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on January 13, 2020, 11:10:07 PM
He's relying on the remainder of this season to show that Wojo has a record good enough to silence the doubters. The conversation is purely about what hasn't happened, as noted by the rest of the post you quoted.

I would like to focus on next year and the incoming recruiting class that is going to lead to a huge improvement for Wojo led teams.

More specifically,  I want to focus on which recruit is going to teach Wojo about in-game adjustments? 
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: brewcity77 on January 13, 2020, 11:48:15 PM
Based on a quick review of Sacar and Brendan's game by game offensive stats, Sacar looks more consistent to me. A lot more consistent. Brendan has had a couple of very good games but has also had some very bad games. He's really been all over the place. The four game conference stretch has been a good example of this.

Sacar in the month of December was a very consistent second scoring option. He scored in double figures in all 6 games and shot over 50% from the field and from 3. This is what I think he's capable of doing on a regular basis. Looking across the full season, he's been in double digits in 10 games and only had one game scoring fewer than 6 points. Brendan, on the other hand, has scored in double digits only 4 times and has scored fewer than 6 in 8 games.

In that December stretch, Sacar did look consistent. However, 4 of his 5 100+ ORtg games in December were buy games. Against high major teams, he's hit 100+ only 2 of 10 times.

Bailey has cracked 100+ ORtg 5/10 times, and those all came in the last 8 games.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Marcus92 on January 14, 2020, 01:02:22 AM
So far this season, I'd say Brendan is Marquette's most improved player. He's increased his shooting percentages both inside and outside the arc. He's a far stronger rebounder, more than doubling his defensive rebounding percentage per KenPom (currently second-best on the team). He's also more than doubled his assist rate, while turning the ball over less often than anyone else on the roster.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 14, 2020, 01:56:20 AM
In that December stretch, Sacar did look consistent. However, 4 of his 5 100+ ORtg games in December were buy games. Against high major teams, he's hit 100+ only 2 of 10 times.

Bailey has cracked 100+ ORtg 5/10 times, and those all came in the last 8 games.

The Villanova game was classic Sacar. He wasn't overly aggressive on offense to start the game, deferring to Markus and others. It was fine because Markus and Koby were hitting everything. In the second half he continued to defer to others until Villanova started getting close. Suddenly he gets aggressive offensively and scored on several straight possessions. The strategy, if there was one, worked to perfection.

The problem is that he can't do it consistently.

I think he and the team would be better served if he was more aggressive offensively. Earlier and more often. Especially attacking the rim. He has the ability to go on scoring runs but he can't just turn it on whenever he wants. Few players are that good.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WarriorFan on January 14, 2020, 03:26:06 AM
Make the changes, based on what you have seen out of the team so far this year.    Possible options, IMO...

1. Start Jayce.    Theo's hand is impacting him on both ends of the floor and he is getting called for the most ridiculous non fouls imaginable.    Change the calculus by bringing him off the bench.   
2.  Start Greg over Koby.    Koby is living too much in his own head right now.    Bring him off the bench, remove the pressure from him.   
3.  Jamal for Sacar.    Just the opposite of Koby.    Piss Sacar off and let him come in angry and looking to attack.     He has been reluctant to finish through contact and is getting pushed around on the defensive boards.   Let him take his fury out on an opponent.   
4.   Burpees in practice for every time there is an open lane and the basket is not attacked.   
5.   I do not yet believe that Symir is the answer at the point.    His freshman-ness was exposed against SH.    Patience.   
6.  Start using Bailey as the screener.    He is so close to taking off and taking over.   
7.   Consider two bigs against physical teams.    I feel the Providence game was lost on the defensive boards, by a more physical team pushing MU around.    Push back.   Use Ed at the 4 instead of the 5.   Because Cooley was waiting for Ed to come in at the 5 and started feeding the post incessantly until Ed came out. 

I don't know what would work.    Maybe none.   But, if you were coaching the team, what say you?

I actually really like this topic as well as Tower's stab at it.  None (very few) of us are getting paid to coach basketball, but this is a message board, so who cares?
Having said that, here's my list:
1.  Have a consistent style of play that makes the other team react to MU rather than being reactive.  (examples, Dick Bennett, Tony Bennett, McDermott (5 out), Boeheim)
2.  Occasionally Speed it up.  Press with energy for steals.  Use a fast, long lineup with none of the 3 headed center.  Greg, Sacar, BB, Cain, Koby for example.
3.  Definitely use Bailey as the screener.  Or Cain.  3 plays in a roll.  Screen & pop Markus shoots, screen and pop markus passes for an open 3, screen and roll and Markus throws the 'oop.  Like Bledsoe / Antetokuonmpo.
4.  Be able to "change it up" on offense with 5-out or an aggressive run-n-gun with the quick guys creating a secondary break.
5.  Have goals for every game that make a sure win when they are achieved:  Make more free throws than the other guys take, get 5 steals per game, out-rebound the opposition every game, 25% minimum assisted baskets, get 3 open buckets in the lane every game.  Brent and TC used to talk about these goals.  Wojo never has. 
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 14, 2020, 05:25:44 AM
He's relying on the remainder of this season to show that Wojo has a record good enough to silence the doubters. The conversation is purely about what hasn't happened, as noted by the rest of the post you quoted.
Even if I am right, it won't silence the doubters.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: MUDPT on January 14, 2020, 06:39:58 AM
The Villanova game was classic Sacar. He wasn't overly aggressive on offense to start the game, deferring to Markus and others. It was fine because Markus and Koby were hitting everything. In the second half he continued to defer to others until Villanova started getting close. Suddenly he gets aggressive offensively and scored on several straight possessions. The strategy, if there was one, worked to perfection.

The problem is that he can't do it consistently.

I think he and the team would be better served if he was more aggressive offensively. Earlier and more often. Especially attacking the rim. He has the ability to go on scoring runs but he can't just turn it on whenever he wants. Few players are that good.

I think they should get Sacar going earlier. He got 3 straight possessions in the 2nd half against Nova and got 2 mid range makes and a 3rd he got fouled on. I think it’s where the Koby conundrum comes in. If he’s your primary ball handler, Sacar ISO goes down even more in the pecking order.

I go back to Brew’s post on pace. This team reminds me a lot of the 2010 team. They played Wisco slow that year. Won and lost a ton close games. Buzz’s best coaching year.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 14, 2020, 07:03:49 AM
I see everything you said, and I raise you a top ten recruiting class.

That’s the hope.  If it doesn’t happen on the court this year that hope balloon pops. 
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 14, 2020, 07:16:13 AM
I do believe MU will finish the year with 23-25 wins.   Counting postseason.

If you are correct, many posters who have been so obviously emboldened this week with their wojo bashing would look like idiots.  And saying they are glad they were wrong won’t suffice based on how clear their posts have been to the contrary.  Will make for interesting scoop time for sure.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: 🏀 on January 14, 2020, 08:02:04 AM
Sacar has the best mid-range jumper on the team, it should be part of the gameplan more often.

Sacar is also drawing the toughest defensive assignments and he isn't initially part of the offensive game plan because of this.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 14, 2020, 09:09:34 AM
Even if I am right, it won't silence the doubters.

If things shake out the way you're expecting, it will certainly help me turn the corner. I was almost there last year until February rolled around. If we end up in the 23-25 win range, that should earn Wojo some goodwill with the grumpy fans.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 14, 2020, 09:58:01 AM
In that December stretch, Sacar did look consistent. However, 4 of his 5 100+ ORtg games in December were buy games. Against high major teams, he's hit 100+ only 2 of 10 times.

Bailey has cracked 100+ ORtg 5/10 times, and those all came in the last 8 games.

With Bailey's contributions in other areas in addition to just scoring, that does make some sense. I'm guessing he's had some big swings over that same 8 game stretch, though, right?
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: MU82 on January 14, 2020, 10:17:55 AM
I didn't open this one for awhile because I worried it would be yet another hate-fest, but I just got done reading everything and it's been a fun read that has (mostly) stayed on topic. Thanks for starting it, tower, and for contributing, everybody.

I like the idea of going small sometimes with no 5s on the floor. Can't do it too often, but there are opportunities in many games.

And whether or not we do that, I have been wanting us to use Bailey in the Sam screen-and-pop role ever since he showed that his shot was much improved. Maybe even Sacar on occasion, which would free Bailey to hunt offensive rebounds. Having a center 25 feet away from the hoop doesn't help much, and their hands are so unreliable (and they are so prone to traveling) that pick-and-roll is usually not the best option.

I also like Markus on the ball more times than not. Also a little more Symir, especially if there is a less-talented guard he can be assigned to defend.

Our man defense is fine most games ... as long as we keep a center low, preferably Theo.

We also need some better cuddles, and maybe a little less ice in the cup!
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 14, 2020, 11:23:42 AM
5.  Have goals for every game that make a sure win when they are achieved:  Make more free throws than the other guys take, get 5 steals per game, out-rebound the opposition every game, 25% minimum assisted baskets, get 3 open buckets in the lane every game.  Brent and TC used to talk about these goals.  Wojo never has.

Funny you mention that.  Can't find it now, but there was a thread that had an (IG?) picture showing  white board with 5 goals, similar to yours, and tracking whether they were accomplished for each game.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Jay Bee on January 14, 2020, 12:44:06 PM
I think Brendan could hold his own for stretches on the boards. In conference play he's had 11, 3, 8, 11 RBs so far, averaging 8.3 per game. Theo is at 4.5 per game, and Jayce is at 6.8 per game. He probably couldn't go long stretches in the role, but I think there's some opportunity here.

What is the relevance of per game stats?

So bizarre.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 14, 2020, 01:59:20 PM
What is the relevance of per game stats?

So bizarre.

You'd prefer totals? You know that would give the exact same result, right?

I just used what was easily available for free online.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on January 14, 2020, 04:03:33 PM
Marquette won last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that. 
Marquette also made the NCAA tournament two out of the last three years.
 
I know, I know, regular season records and tournament appearances don't matter.

By that logic, winning a game in the NCAA tournament doesn't matter either, because the only real winner in the NCAA tournament is the eventual champion. The rest are all LOSERS.

My main question is....... Why do people who want Wojo gone feel they need to misrepresent his record of success??
Maybe it's because they know if they cited Wojos actual record it would undermine their argument.

Newsflash.....People that support keeping Wojo have their memories and record books to debunk those exaggerated claims related to Wojos history of success.

The decision to resort to fabrications by those who want Wojo gone only reinforces my belief that their opinions should be discounted and that the opinions of those who support keeping him should be given additional weight.

This is that loser attitude I am talking about. You are accepting mediocrity. We've won regular season games, that's it. We havent taken any next steps, the program hasnt had success on a national scale under Wojo, the team is poorly coached, and extremely inconsistent.

We've made no progress in scaling our program. The decision to resort to fabrications about wojo and his success reinforces my opinion that you are a loser and accept being a stale program.

Record of success? What record of success are you talking about? We haven't won a tourney game under his leadership. We lost two of our top players because wojo couldnt keep the locker room together. These are not fabrications, these are facts.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: MarquetteDano on January 14, 2020, 05:20:23 PM
You'd prefer totals? You know that would give the exact same result, right?

I just used what was easily available for free online.

Think JayBee is referring to percentages as a better stat than per game numbers.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Marcus92 on January 14, 2020, 05:38:09 PM
This is that loser attitude I am talking about. You are accepting mediocrity. We've won regular season games, that's it. We havent taken any next steps, the program hasnt had success on a national scale under Wojo, the team is poorly coached, and extremely inconsistent.

We've made no progress in scaling our program. The decision to resort to fabrications about wojo and his success reinforces my opinion that you are a loser and accept being a stale program.

I thought winners didn't have anything to do with losers. What's the point of even engaging in conversation? You can't change someone who accepts mediocrity. It's obviously a waste of time. For that matter, why even associate yourself with Marquette basketball -- a "stale program" that "hasn't had success on a national scale" and has "made no progress" -- at all? Sounds like nothing but a bunch of losers.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: skianth16 on January 14, 2020, 06:04:27 PM
Think JayBee is referring to percentages as a better stat than per game numbers.

That went right over my head! Looking at percentages does offer a different view. I'll have to look at the advanced stats more often.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 14, 2020, 06:23:16 PM
That’s the hope.  If it doesn’t happen on the court this year that hope balloon pops.

Not really.......

I have high hopes for next season with or without Mane. With Mane the hopes are obviously much higher.

First things first though.......

I still have relatively high hopes for this season.

Even if we miss the tournament, Koby, Brendan, Jamal, Theo, Greg, and Symir will have gained  valuable experience for next year.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Class71 on January 14, 2020, 10:02:27 PM
Well if I were the coach I  would make $2m. I would take half and hire a good assistant. Problem solved.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 14, 2020, 10:42:52 PM
Not really.......

I have high hopes for next season with or without Mane. With Mane the hopes are obviously much higher.

First things first though.......

I still have relatively high hopes for this season.

Even if we miss the tournament, Koby, Brendan, Jamal, Theo, Greg, and Symir will have gained  valuable experience for next year.

I get the optimism for next years recruiting class and team.  That was part two of my reasoning for keeping Wojo after last year and it appears it is coming to fruition.  Maybe it’s like the class that allowed Willard to gain some traction 5 years ago with Delgado and the rest of that class.

Part one was success on the court this year (originally much higher aspirations with the Hausers on the team) because it would indicate to me that he is a good coach as well.  He has an All-American, a couple of young potential major contributors and several major conference “Glue Guys” to work with.   It would be nice to see he is capable of coaching them up to a tournament bid.  If that happens I personally will feel the trajectory is still upward.  If not, I will not be as confident.  Maybe the balloon popping is incorrect but air will definitely be leaking out.

I look forward to tomorrow and the rest of the season.  Go MU!

Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Cheeks on January 14, 2020, 10:55:09 PM
This is that loser attitude I am talking about. You are accepting mediocrity. We've won regular season games, that's it. We havent taken any next steps, the program hasnt had success on a national scale under Wojo, the team is poorly coached, and extremely inconsistent.

We've made no progress in scaling our program. The decision to resort to fabrications about wojo and his success reinforces my opinion that you are a loser and accept being a stale program.

Record of success? What record of success are you talking about? We haven't won a tourney game under his leadership. We lost two of our top players because wojo couldnt keep the locker room together. These are not fabrications, these are facts.

Thanks Southside....
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 14, 2020, 11:57:32 PM
I get the optimism for next years recruiting class and team.  That was part two of my reasoning for keeping Wojo after last year and it appears it is coming to fruition.  Maybe it’s like the class that allowed Willard to gain some traction 5 years ago with Delgado and the rest of that class.

Part one was success on the court this year (originally much higher aspirations with the Hausers on the team) because it would indicate to me that he is a good coach as well.  He has an All-American, a couple of young potential major contributors and several major conference “Glue Guys” to work with.   It would be nice to see he is capable of coaching them up to a tournament bid.  If that happens I personally will feel the trajectory is still upward.  If not, I will not be as confident.  Maybe the balloon popping is incorrect but air will definitely be leaking out.

I look forward to tomorrow and the rest of the season.  Go MU!

Fair enough.

I actually thought Wojo whiffing on Chartouny last year combined with Gregs thumb injury and Sams hip were the biggest factors in last years collapse. Not coaching.

Things were fine until Markus started wearing down from too much usage and Sams hip became a noticeable issue.

Chartouny was simply too overwhelmed by Big East competition, and Greg was out, so Markus was put in an untenable position.

Brendan was a year away from providing Significant production so Sam was in a similar position as Markus.

Sam and Markus shouldered so much of the weight throughout the year, that by the end of the season they were exhausted. Physically, mentally and emotionally. It didn't help that Joey was hitting the freshman wall at the same time. If you combine pain and fatigue, with losing and frustration, it makes for an explosive combination. I'm not surprised "Hausershima" happened.

Wojo deserves blame, but not for bad coaching. He deserves blame for not having better depth at the guard position. Although he IS at a disadvantage, with other schools paying kids or family members so.......
That's why I'm still nervous about getting Mane, despite the positive reports.
How many guards has Marquette been "in on" only to be jilted in the end.

This year so far, is about injuries and missing the Hausers, not coaching IMHO.

Next year is all about the recruits and depth at the guard position. With Koby, Symir, Dexter, and Karim, Marquette will have that depth. Theo and Brendan will be fine and Jamal might even flourish in a less Markus-centric offense. Greg will probably be injured again. That guy is snake bit.

Oh yeah......I almost forgot the most important thing.......

Wojo will still be the coach. GO MU!!
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 15, 2020, 05:54:36 AM
The roster next year, if we get Mane especially, is definitely more well rounded.  It also sounds like it will be more athletic than we have had in the past and taller.   There is the possibility it’s the roster Wojo has been striving for years to get.   We will see.

Let’s get this win tonight.  I still want this years team to be good.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: BobWildLoyalist on January 15, 2020, 12:36:08 PM
Thanks Southside....

You're welcome Cheeky :)
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Nukem2 on January 15, 2020, 12:47:06 PM
The roster next year, if we get Mane especially, is definitely more well rounded.  It also sounds like it will be more athletic than we have had in the past and taller.   There is the possibility it’s the roster Wojo has been striving for years to get.   We will see.

Let’s get this win tonight.  I still want this years team to be good.
Still need backup for Theo next season.  Dawson and Oso are rather slim for the 5 at this point.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: willie warrior on January 15, 2020, 01:18:41 PM
500 in conference every year save his first year and last year. Last year was great until choking away a BE title that was firmly in the grasp.
Yes, last year was a huge melt down, on par with the Louisville meltdown during the phony lonesome cowboys tenure.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: willie warrior on January 15, 2020, 01:20:59 PM
I do believe MU will finish the year with 23-25 wins.   Counting postseason.
Well spoken, Wojo Worshipper.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 15, 2020, 01:22:15 PM
The roster next year, if we get Mane especially, is definitely more well rounded.  It also sounds like it will be more athletic than we have had in the past and taller.   There is the possibility it’s the roster Wojo has been striving for years to get.   We will see.

Let’s get this win tonight.  I still want this years team to be good.

Agreed, a win tonight is priority one. Another strong start, followed by steady strong play, and a strong finish, would be a sign that this team is progressing.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: willie warrior on January 15, 2020, 01:23:02 PM
So far this season, I'd say Brendan is Marquette's most improved player. He's increased his shooting percentages both inside and outside the arc. He's a far stronger rebounder, more than doubling his defensive rebounding percentage per KenPom (currently second-best on the team). He's also more than doubled his assist rate, while turning the ball over less often than anyone else on the roster.
Not hard to increase shooting %s from where they were last year.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on January 15, 2020, 01:23:52 PM
Well spoken, Wojo Worshipper.
Wee Willie Whiner is up from his nap I see and carpet bombing thread after thread with his incessant whining.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: tower912 on January 15, 2020, 01:25:39 PM
Well spoken, Wojo Worshipper.
Ok, Boomer.   Go Velcro up your New Balance and yell at the kids near your lawn.   
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: Shooter McGavin on January 15, 2020, 02:55:41 PM
Still need backup for Theo next season.  Dawson and Oso are rather slim for the 5 at this point.

You are correct.  That would make it almost a perfect roster (height, strength, guard play, athleticism).  Could be a surprisingly good team.
Title: Re: You're the coach
Post by: WhoaJoe2020 on January 15, 2020, 03:35:20 PM
You are correct.  That would make it almost a perfect roster (height, strength, guard play, athleticism).  Could be a surprisingly good team.

If Guys want minutes next year, they all need to get bigger and stronger over the course of this year and the off season. Dawson and Osa both may have to play in the post at times. Maybe even Brendan and Justin. I'm not counting on, nor do I really want another grad  transfer big. I could be swayed if someone could point to a potential transfer that would be better than just going with what Marquette already has.

Next years roster as it currently stands: Theo, Dawson, Osa, Brendan, Justin, Jamal, Greg, Dexter, Koby, Symir, and hopefully Karim.
I could live with that.

If we don't get Karim(I'm still very skeptical despite reports) another combo guard or small forward would be my preference.