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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 31, 2019, 06:48:21 PM
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Anyone got an update on Koby's thumb? Creighton has a lot of speedy shooters. A guy with his size and speed could be invaluable when trying to slow down the Jays.
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Saw on the MU Instagram that he still had the thing on his hand.
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"Thumb" makes you think of gamekeeper's. Hung on for Greg. Let's hope it's minor.
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Yep on IG he had the plastic brace on. May be preventative n will play. We really dont know. Buffet line known to get rough
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I'll get blasted for this but with how hes playing may be an addition by subtraction deal
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I'll get blasted for this but with how hes playing may be an addition by subtraction deal
Yeah...no.
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I'll get blasted for this but with how hes playing may be an addition by subtraction deal
We will see if you are right after tomorrows game. They play 4 guards, not sure how MU is going to defend them.
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Best defensive guard on the team
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I'll get blasted for this but with how hes playing may be an addition by subtraction deal
::)
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Maybe they will fit him with a club? Put him in for defense only ;D
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I'll get blasted for this but with how hes playing may be an addition by subtraction deal
We played very well without him the last game, but the opponent was terrible.
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This would be a bad game to be without Koby. Really need his physicality to defense Creighton’s guards. I hope he is healthy and in the starting lineup!
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I'll get blasted for this but with how hes playing may be an addition by subtraction deal
I am amazed that people judge a players performance based off of how well they are shooting and completely ignoring all the other aspects of the game.
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Exactly. Passing, defense, rebounding. His shot is off right now. The teams still needs him.
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I am amazed that people judge a players performance based off of how well they are shooting and completely ignoring all the other aspects of the game.
True....but let’s not pretend that one’s shooting liabilities have no impact on a player’s performance either.
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True....but let’s not pretend that one’s shooting liabilities have no impact on a player’s performance either.
No one said that.
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True....but let’s not pretend that one’s shooting liabilities have no impact on a player’s performance either.
And no one said that
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We need Koby's size at the guard position, especially defensively. Just the depth helps a lot. He's also been clutch at the end of games.
All I hope for is that he slows down a bit offensively. He's a bit careless at times and forces difficult shots when he is trying to get out of a slump. I like when he drives with more control. Definitely able to get others involved as well.
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Really hope he plays. We need the defense.
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Looks like kobe went to the shootaround. No video of him shooting yet.
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Looks like kobe went to the shootaround. No video of him shooting yet.
Yeah I’d expect him to be in the building for shoot around even if they knew for 100% certain he wasn’t playing tonight.
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From the tweet I think he’s in the background shooting with The bigs
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1212454646108827652?s=21
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From the tweet I think he’s in the background shooting with The bigs
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1212454646108827652?s=21
Yep, #25
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Maybe they will fit him with a club? Put him in for defense only ;D
Play him in the Brad Davison role, eh?
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Shooting n playing are night and day
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Play him in the Brad Davison role, eh?
Mitch Cupcheck?
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Shooting n playing are night and day
No brace or wrap on the hand.
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Shooting n playing are night and day
Yup.
I had a sprained thumb a couple years ago and I tried playing again after two weeks and couldn't get through two games. I could dribble and shoot fine, but getting hit on it driving to the basket was excruciating.
Granted, I'm an old guy playing pickup a few times a week, but that's a terribly annoying injury. Especially when it's the dominant hand.
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From the tweet I think he’s in the background shooting with The bigs
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1212454646108827652?s=21
Could be a body double. Wojo is pulling out all the stops for conference play.
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Maybe they will fit him with a club? Put him in for defense only ;D
Now that is a great idea. That club would be great for blocking shots.
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https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1212535099536924682?s=21
In uniform and available for tonight.
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https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1212535099536924682?s=21
In uniform and available for tonight.
Really Good News. I'm always comfortable when he's on the Line late or early.
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Glad he’s available. But not going to lie, not sure he’d be in my starting 5 right now.
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Glad he is back. Gets the rotations back to normal, takes the pressure off the freshman. Going to need guards with size tonight. Defense will be the difference. Koby plays it. Symir is improving.
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Food for thought
Here's a quick comparison (and I know the limited playing time is a factor but):
Koby has played 317 minutes to Symir's 113 (so almost triple)
Koby has 38 assists, Symir has 22
Koby has turned it over 31 times, Symir 6
That means Koby has a AST/TO Rate of 1.23 and Symir's is 3.67.
Now, Koby has 112 points to Symir's 17, but I go back to I don't think this team is missing a scorer if Bailey, Anim, Cain, and Eliot keep improving. Not to mention if you start getting a combined 12-16 from the 3 big men.
I think ball movement and finding open shooters is more important at this point and helps get those other guys more points.
Also I know there's a lot more to defense, but Symir has 4 steals to Koby's 9 in 1/3 of the time.
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Food for thought
Here's a quick comparison (and I know the limited playing time is a factor but):
Koby has played 317 minutes to Symir's 113 (so almost triple)
Koby has 38 assists, Symir has 22
Koby has turned it over 31 times, Symir 6
That means Koby has a AST/TO Rate of 1.23 and Symir's is 3.67.
Now, Koby has 112 points to Symir's 17, but I go back to I don't think this team is missing a scorer if Bailey, Anim, Cain, and Eliot keep improving. Not to mention if you start getting a combined 12-16 from the 3 big men.
I think ball movement and finding open shooters is more important at this point and helps get those other guys more points.
Also I know there's a lot more to defense, but Symir has 4 steals to Koby's 9 in 1/3 of the time.
Symir has also played almost all of his minutes, with the KState game as an exception, in garbage time or against lower level competition. I think teams would beg Symir to shoot the ball and it would put pressure on everyone else by closing up space. Teams can’t do that with Koby.
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Well, here’s some Scooper’s wishes coming true. We’ll see how it goes.
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Not well. Symir can’t defend. But he sure makes crisp passes around the perimeter!
Put Eliot in and let Markus run the show.
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I am amazed that people judge a players performance based off of how well they are shooting and completely ignoring all the other aspects of the game.
Welcome to scoop where they think Howard is the goat.
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Food for thought
Here's a quick comparison (and I know the limited playing time is a factor but):
Koby has played 317 minutes to Symir's 113 (so almost triple)
Koby has 38 assists, Symir has 22
Koby has turned it over 31 times, Symir 6
That means Koby has a AST/TO Rate of 1.23 and Symir's is 3.67.
Now, Koby has 112 points to Symir's 17, but I go back to I don't think this team is missing a scorer if Bailey, Anim, Cain, and Eliot keep improving. Not to mention if you start getting a combined 12-16 from the 3 big men.
I think ball movement and finding open shooters is more important at this point and helps get those other guys more points.
Also I know there's a lot more to defense, but Symir has 4 steals to Koby's 9 in 1/3 of the time.
Notice how you didn't put plus/minus, rebounds, or defensive efficiency. Or mentioned that 90% of symirs minutes have been garbage time or teams
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Yeah this team is going to desperately need Koby. If we can’t even stay in front of Mitch Ballock...yikes.
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Koby has 38 assists, Symir has 22
Koby has turned it over 31 times, Symir 6
That means Koby has a AST/TO Rate of 1.23 and Symir's is 3.67.
Diff player types. Symir is an incredibly low usage guy; Koby has been medium.. turnover rates: Koby 25.1%, Symir 24.2%. Essentially even.
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I am amazed that people judge a players performance based off of how well they are shooting and completely ignoring all the other aspects of the game.
Yeah without him tonight we lose by 40. I havent given on Koby yet but my God idk if it's possible to be playing worse.
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Koby went to Utah State because he was a mid-major player. Now, he's simply an older mid-major player. He is what he is. Having expectations beyond that is unrealistic and unfair to him.
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The strangest part of Mcewen’s struggles is shy Greg isn’t seeing more minutes. I’d be quite frustrated if I were him. Redshirting when you were healthy most of the year to sit behind a guy playing like Koby...
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Koby shot the ball twice. He's struggling to score. But he was the absolute only player who showed any ability to prevent penetration tonight. He's by far our best perimeter defender.
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Black hole on offense and terrible attitude.
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Black hole on offense and terrible attitude.
...the guy shot the ball twice today. Not sure I'd call that a "black hole."
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The strangest part of Mcewen’s struggles is shy Greg isn’t seeing more minutes. I’d be quite frustrated if I were him. Redshirting when you were healthy most of the year to sit behind a guy playing like Koby...
I keep expecting to see more Greg, but Symir's the one getting the minutes. And while I don't mind Symir getting some run, I'd prefer more of those minutes to go to Greg. Markus or Sacar can run the offense, just like they did all year last year.
I think Wojo is forcing the true PG minutes too much right now. Put the best 5 guys out there; it can be that simple.
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Koby's stat line for tonight:
0 for 2 field goals. His three point attempt hit the top of the backboard, not an airball.
4 turnovers
4 fouls.
He has made one outside shot in his last four games, the only one being a three against KSU late in the game. One shot.
Last nine games:
Field goals: 12 for 59 (20%)
Threes: 5 for 35 (10%)
Turnovers: 27
Fouls: 28
Some have said look beyond his scoring, even at his "swagger". Right. Two fouls tonight in 50 seconds, screwed up the lineup rotation, defensive responsibilities went elsewhere and didn't show up again. Zero points, 4 turnovers and 4 fouls. With MU getting absolutely nothing from three players playing the five, Koby needs to get it together or this season going to be real long.
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Koby's stat line for tonight:
0 for 2 field goals. His three point attempt hit the top of the backboard, not an airball.
4 turnovers
4 fouls.
He has made one outside shot in his last four games, the only one being a three against KSU late in the game. One shot.
Last nine games:
Field goals: 12 for 59 (20%)
Threes: 5 for 35 (10%)
Turnovers: 27
Fouls: 28
Some have said look beyond his scoring, even at his "swagger". Right. Two fouls tonight in 50 seconds, screwed up the lineup rotation, defensive responsibilities went elsewhere and didn't show up again. Zero points, 4 turnovers and 4 fouls. With MU getting absolutely nothing from three players playing the five, Koby needs to get it together or this season going to be real long.
Numbers don’t lie. McEwen is awful.
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Koby's stat line for tonight:
0 for 2 field goals. His three point attempt hit the top of the backboard, not an airball.
4 turnovers
4 fouls.
He has made one outside shot in his last four games, the only one being a three against KSU late in the game. One shot.
Last nine games:
Field goals: 12 for 59 (20%)
Threes: 5 for 35 (10%)
Turnovers: 27
Fouls: 28
Some have said look beyond his scoring, even at his "swagger". Right. Two fouls tonight in 50 seconds, screwed up the lineup rotation, defensive responsibilities went elsewhere and didn't show up again. Zero points, 4 turnovers and 4 fouls. With MU getting absolutely nothing from three players playing the five, Koby needs to get it together or this season going to be real long.
The utter lack of confidence, which is understandable at this point, is going to make a quick turnaround very difficult. It's a shame, because our ceiling is much lower without him playing well.
Those shooting numbers are almost impossibly bad the last 9 games. Ouch. Puts so much more pressure on Markus with him offering nothing. Hope he can regain his confidence, because he is so much better than he is playing right now. Confidence is such an amazing intangible.
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...the guy shot the ball twice today. Not sure I'd call that a "black hole."
“Koby's stat line for tonight:
0 for 2 field goals. His three point attempt hit the top of the backboard, not an airball.
4 turnovers
4 fouls.
He has made one outside shot in his last four games, the only one being a three against KSU late in the game. One shot.
Last nine games:
Field goals: 12 for 59 (20%)
Threes: 5 for 35 (10%)
Turnovers: 27
Fouls: 28
Some have said look beyond his scoring, even at his "swagger". Right. Two fouls tonight in 50 seconds, screwed up the lineup rotation, defensive responsibilities went elsewhere and didn't show up again. Zero points, 4 turnovers and 4 fouls. With MU getting absolutely nothing from three players playing the five, Koby needs to get it together or this season going to be real long.”
This...C’mon wades be better.
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The utter lack of confidence, which is understandable at this point, is going to make a quick turnaround very difficult. It's a shame, because our ceiling is much lower without him playing well.
Those shooting numbers are almost impossibly bad the last 9 games. Ouch. Puts so much more pressure on Markus with him offering nothing. Hope he can regain his confidence, because he is so much better than he is playing right now. Confidence is such an amazing intangible.
You’re sure he’s not really this bad huh, ok. Not sure what that’s based from. He’s a mid major player
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“Koby's stat line for tonight:
0 for 2 field goals. His three point attempt hit the top of the backboard, not an airball.
4 turnovers
4 fouls.
He has made one outside shot in his last four games, the only one being a three against KSU late in the game. One shot.
Last nine games:
Field goals: 12 for 59 (20%)
Threes: 5 for 35 (10%)
Turnovers: 27
Fouls: 28
Some have said look beyond his scoring, even at his "swagger". Right. Two fouls tonight in 50 seconds, screwed up the lineup rotation, defensive responsibilities went elsewhere and didn't show up again. Zero points, 4 turnovers and 4 fouls. With MU getting absolutely nothing from three players playing the five, Koby needs to get it together or this season going to be real long.”
This...C’mon wades be better.
AKA "I don't know what the term 'black hole' means when discussing basketball."
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You’re sure he’s not really this bad huh, ok. Not sure what that’s based from. He’s a mid major player
Pretty sure he's capable of far better than 20%/10% shooting, but given the complete loss of confidence at this point he has to be a mess emotionally. Tough to get over that hump; it'd be nice to see him get a couple easy buckets to get some good vibes going. Hopefully that will happen sooner rather than later.
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AKA "I don't know what the term 'black hole' means when discussing basketball."
Can you clarify? I didn't mention any reference to a blackhole.
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Can you clarify? I didn't mention any reference to a blackhole.
I was quoting panda, who called Koby a "black hole" on offense, and then when I pointed out he took a whopping two shots tonight he quoted your post and said "this."
Koby is bad offensively right now. He is not a black hole.
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Pretty sure he's capable of far better than 20%/10% shooting, but given the complete loss of confidence at this point he has to be a mess emotionally. Tough to get over that hump; it'd be nice to see him get a couple easy buckets to get some good vibes going. Hopefully that will happen sooner rather than later.
I wouldn’t even play him. Let Symir develop. He’s a work in progress, but he’s flashed ability at this level.
Plus, I stopped kidding myself in November that this season had any hope to it
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I was quoting panda, who called Koby a "black hole" on offense, and then when I pointed out he took a whopping two shots tonight he quoted your post and said "this."
Koby is bad offensively right now. He is not a black hole.
OK, just re read. Koby's a mess and I'll continue with his stats until it ends for reference only because his slump is something very strange for a BE starting player.
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I was quoting panda, who called Koby a "black hole" on offense, and then when I pointed out he took a whopping two shots tonight he quoted your post and said "this."
Koby is bad offensively right now. He is not a black hole.
I would say not scoring at all and turning the ball over at a high rate would be a black hole. I guess I’m wrong in regards to your personal understanding of the phrase. Sorry carry on!
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I would say not scoring at all and turning the ball over at a high rate would be a black hole. I guess I’m wrong in regards to your personal understanding of the phrase. Sorry carry on!
Yes, that's my point. That's not a black hole.
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OK, just re read. Koby's a mess and I'll continue with his stats until it ends for reference only because his slump is something very strange for a BE starting player.
He’s a starting in BE only because MU and Wojo are headed for a terrible season. Go back to the Mountain West
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Yes, that's my point. That's not a black hole.
Lol I don’t care what you think
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Lol I don’t care what you think
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+a+black+hole+in+basketball&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
Google is your friend. A “black hole” on a basketball court is a guy who never passes the ball, shoots it every time he gets it. Koby is not that and was definitely not that tonight.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+a+black+hole+in+basketball&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
Google is your friend. A “black hole” on a basketball court is a guy who never passes the ball, shoots it every time he gets it. Koby is not that and was definitely not that tonight.
Dude just pulled out a google search for black hole. Get a life man.
Black hole = negative influence = Koby
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Dude just pulled out a google search for black hole. Get a life man.
Black hole = negative influence = Koby
Wrong
A black hole means the ball goes in and never comes out? This has been a term for basketball for a long time. You are simply wrong with your terminology.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+a+black+hole+in+basketball&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
Google is your friend. A “black hole” on a basketball court is a guy who never passes the ball, shoots it every time he gets it. Koby is not that and was definitely not that tonight.
Yup
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1031971-carmelo-anthony-and-the-biggest-black-holes-in-the-nba?share=other
https://the-cauldron.com/celebrating-the-nbas-all-black-hole-team-a3feaa0e6ec2
https://en.mimi.hu/basketball/black_hole.html
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Arguing over the semantics of what is a black hole and not focusing on the actual topic is classic. Koby has been horrid besides a couple halves
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Dude just pulled out a google search for black hole. Get a life man.
Black hole = negative influence = Koby
See Jim rome’s Take on “pick up basketball guy”. Funny chit
Black hole is a guy who doesn’t pass
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He stinks out loud. How’s that for a straightforward description.
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I promise to never get excited about a transfer again. I don't care if the player sitting out is the best player in practice.
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Koby lost his game. Must have left it in Utah. He's a big liability on this team.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+a+black+hole+in+basketball&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
Google is your friend. A “black hole” on a basketball court is a guy who never passes the ball, shoots it every time he gets it. Koby is not that and was definitely not that tonight.
Pretty gutsy searching that on Google.
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Dude just pulled out a google search for black hole. Get a life man.
Black hole = negative influence = Koby
Sorry but when you are talking basketball, that is simply not what it means. Just admit that you were mistaken and move on.
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Wondering if he will end up grad transferring out of here.
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I wonder if Elliott will start getting his minutes. Maybe coming off the bench will help McEwen get out of this funk.
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I wonder if Elliott will start getting his minutes. Maybe coming off the bench will help McEwen get out of this funk.
Start Elliott. Put the ball back in Markus' hands.
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peak scoop.
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Before the season I asked if someone could put together Kobys stats from playing high majors/tournament teams. In those games he was pretty horrific, since then I did not have high hopes Koby was going to be our savior.
Edit: Actually I misremembered the quote
Utah St's OOC was kind of weak in the years he was there. In his freshman year 16-17, he averaged 7 pts, 2 rebounds, 2 assists against Purdue, Texas Tech, and BYU. Sophomore year, even smaller sample set, but he played really well against BYU and put up 20-3-3. He had foul trouble against Utah and only played 12 min, couple points and boards.
However, you look in conference, against tourney teams, and he shined. MWC was a one bid team (Nevada) his first year. He averaged 16-6-1 in their 2 matchups including 26 in their first meeting.
Sophomore year, Nevada and SDSU made the tourney, he averaged 19-6-4 including putting up 32 at home.
So he wasn't just feasting on cupcakes. Once he got settled in by regular season of his freshman year, he looked pretty dang good.
Maybe we actually should be disappointed then
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Sorry but when you are talking basketball, that is simply not what it means. Just admit that you were mistaken and move on.
Ok poindexter take a hike. Or do you want to google that to make sure it’s appropriate too? Let me save you the time, it most certainly is.
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Ok poindexter take a hike. Or do you want to google that to make sure it’s appropriate too? Let me save you the time, it most certainly is.
Dude. You were wrong. Get over it. Judging by your subsequent responses, you're going to be wrong on something again.
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Ok poindexter take a hike. Or do you want to google that to make sure it’s appropriate too? Let me save you the time, it most certainly is.
You can keep doubling down on being wrong, or man up and admit when you were mistaken. Unfortunately you have decided to do the former, which is a shame and a betrayal of your Marquette education.
So I will Google it and show you the results:
http://basketball-statistics.com/whosablackholeinthenba.html
"I’d say that a “black hole” is a player who shoots the ball almost every time he touches it. He rarely passes the ball to an open teammate, and shoots a low percentage to boot."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1031971-carmelo-anthony-and-the-biggest-black-holes-in-the-nba
"Whoopi is calling Patton a black hole at that point because of the fact that he refuses to pass the ball..."
https://en.mimi.hu/basketball/black_hole.html
"Black hole: An oldie but a goodie, it describes a player who gets the ball and never passes."
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/2/4/1973237/kobe-bryant-black-hole
"In the NBA, the definition stretches to include any player considered to shoot too much without spreading the love."
So in other words, you are flat out wrong. Which is fine. People are wrong all the time. I'm wrong all the time.
But being wrong and refusing to acknowledge you are wrong despite evidence that shows it, shows lack of character. So what will do you? Will you triple down? Or will you finally admit your mistake?
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Start Elliott. Put the ball back in Markus' hands.
Gets my Vote.
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You can keep doubling down on being wrong, or man up and admit when you were mistaken. Unfortunately you have decided to do the former, which is a shame and a betrayal of your Marquette education.
So I will Google it and show you the results:
http://basketball-statistics.com/whosablackholeinthenba.html
"I’d say that a “black hole” is a player who shoots the ball almost every time he touches it. He rarely passes the ball to an open teammate, and shoots a low percentage to boot."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1031971-carmelo-anthony-and-the-biggest-black-holes-in-the-nba
"Whoopi is calling Patton a black hole at that point because of the fact that he refuses to pass the ball..."
https://en.mimi.hu/basketball/black_hole.html
"Black hole: An oldie but a goodie, it describes a player who gets the ball and never passes."
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/2/4/1973237/kobe-bryant-black-hole
"In the NBA, the definition stretches to include any player considered to shoot too much without spreading the love."
So in other words, you are flat out wrong. Which is fine. People are wrong all the time. I'm wrong all the time.
But being wrong and refusing to acknowledge you are wrong despite evidence that shows it, shows lack of character. So what will do you? Will you triple down? Or will you finally admit your mistake?
Sure - I was wrong in the literal sense according to your best friend the internet. It would bother me, but then I see that you’ve continued googling and gathering more sources to support yourself and I just sit back and laugh at what a colossal waste of time you spent doing that. Anytime longer than one second is too much.
Maybe next time use half of your single brain cell and do some critical thinking. Sometimes a versatile expression which can be used in many different contexts doesn’t always fit in your box of expected meanings.
Keep googling brother!
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Sure - I was wrong in the literal sense
White flag noted.
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Dammit Koby look what you've caused.
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White flag noted.
I just googled white flag and it says that it means a truce or ceasefire so you’re actually wrong too.
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Dude just pulled out a google search for black hole. Get a life man.
Black hole = negative influence = Koby
Think black holes from physics--they suck things in [read: the ball], and never come out.
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I just googled white flag and it says that it means a truce or ceasefire so you’re actually wrong too.
"unintentionally, as a result of very poor management decisions that result in a practical surrender"
But aren't you wasting time looking that up? LOL
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It’s called mocking little boy. For someone who is constantly mocked while going over your head, that may be hard for you to grasp.
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It’s called mocking little boy. For someone who is constantly mocked while going over your head, that may be hard for you to grasp.
And here I hoped people gave up acting like children on the internet for the new year.
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Pretty gutsy searching that on Google.
LOL!! NSFW?
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Koby's stat line for tonight:
0 for 2 field goals. His three point attempt hit the top of the backboard, not an airball.
4 turnovers
4 fouls.
He has made one outside shot in his last four games, the only one being a three against KSU late in the game. One shot.
Last nine games:
Field goals: 12 for 59 (20%)
Threes: 5 for 35 (10%)
Turnovers: 27
Fouls: 28
Some have said look beyond his scoring, even at his "swagger". Right. Two fouls tonight in 50 seconds, screwed up the lineup rotation, defensive responsibilities went elsewhere and didn't show up again. Zero points, 4 turnovers and 4 fouls. With MU getting absolutely nothing from three players playing the five, Koby needs to get it together or this season going to be real long.
He has been garbage on offense, but am I really going to have to be the one to point out (two pages later) the 5/35 is not 10%? I mean, that's just basic first grade stuff. Not that 14% is really much better but that's another issue.
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He has been garbage on offense, but am I really going to have to be the one to point out (two pages later) the 5/35 is not 10%? I mean, that's just basic first grade stuff. Not that 14% is really much better but that's another issue.
14%. Typo, appreciate it and happy now. Just point out error and refrain from first grade comment next time, no need for that.
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Yeah, I know. But maybe get one poster at a time from not making some snide comment every post, this place can get back to what it was. Look at the other threads going on now.
Not sensitive, but “hey nyg,it should be 14%, not 10%” would have sufficed.
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Yeah, I know. But maybe get one poster at a time from not making some snide comment every post, this place can get back to what it was. Look at the other threads going on now.
Not sensitive, but “hey nyg,it should be 14%, not 10%” would have sufficed.
Hilarious. Yep, it's super snide pointing out that percentages, which are literally taught in first grade, are first grade level math. Cool. Continue on with your thread where 3 posts above mine someone called a grown adult "little boy."
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Hilarious. Yep, it's super snide pointing out that percentages, which are literally taught in first grade, are first grade level math. Cool. Continue on with your thread where 3 posts above mine someone called a grown adult "little boy."
Chicos means little boys in Spanish. It’s a double entendre genius.
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What the F is wrong with you people?
SMDH
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What the F is wrong with you people?
SMDH
More importantly, Sultan and Chico’s agree, and form an alliance to go after Panda.
Cats and dogs having a love fest.
Hillary and Trump making out.
Next, Lenny has Chico’s over for Sunday dinner.
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More importantly, Sultan and Chico’s agree, and form an alliance to go after Panda.
Panda's been dead an buried for nearly 24 hours now. No longer worth my time.
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Panda's been dead an buried for nearly 24 hours now. No longer worth my time.
This board has turned into quite the black hole....too soon?
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Panda's been dead an buried for nearly 24 hours now. No longer worth my time.
Glad to know I still own real estate in your brain
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More importantly, Sultan and Chico’s agree, and form an alliance to go after Panda.
Cats and dogs having a love fest.
Hillary and Trump making out.
Next, Lenny has Chico’s over for Sunday dinner.
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Said it before, hope I don't say it again.
Koby isn't very good.
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Black hole is more politically incorrect than warriors.
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Black hole is more politically incorrect than warriors.
NASA in the process of changing it..... https://lingojam.com/PoliticallyCorrectTranslator
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You’re sure he’s not really this bad huh, ok. Not sure what that’s based from. He’s a mid major player
Mid-major players can be pretty good apparently. He won’t be as good as he was yesterday every game, but he sure as hell isn’t as bad as his rough stretch. In other words, he’s human. I’m glad he’s on our team. He needed to see the ball go in a few times; hopefully he has turned a corner in terms of the weight of the slump off of him.
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Mid-major players can be pretty good apparently. He won’t be as good as he was yesterday every game, but he sure as hell isn’t as bad as his rough stretch. In other words, he’s human. I’m glad he’s on our team. He needed to see the ball go in a few times; hopefully he has turned a corner in terms of the weight of the slump off of him.
Said much the same, SAW.
If that performance helped him get his confidence back, and we see stuff like that more often, yesterday's game will have been the most important of the season -- and for a lot more than being a win vs. the nation's 10th-ranked team.
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Koby will be fine. He’s got moxie, spirit and gives it his all.
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He's got cream soda?
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Koby was doing his thing all along, deferring to Markus a bit to much offensively, but still doing a lot of the little things. He actually had a decent stat line a couple of the games before he hurt his thumb. That really wasn't what he needed for his first road game in conference. And it showed. Here's to his confidence and his thumb continuing to improve.
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Koby was doing his thing all along, deferring to Markus a bit to much offensively, but still doing a lot of the little things. He actually had a decent stat line a couple of the games before he hurt his thumb. That really wasn't what he needed for his first road game in conference. And it showed. Here's to his confidence and his thumb continuing to improve.
He said himself in an interview he knows he wasn't playing great. He was helping in other ways sure but let's not pretend he was playing that way on purpose
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He reverted back to his mid-major self tonight (2-10, 0-3 on 3s).
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He reverted back to his mid-major self tonight (2-10, 0-3 on 3s).
4 lightly contested missed layups in the second half, he has an odd little underhanded flip on his takes for no good reason. Finish strong. Too bad he is texhnically very poor in his mechanics and they really hurt him
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He said himself in an interview he knows he wasn't playing great. He was helping in other ways sure but let's not pretend he was playing that way on purpose
Yeah, I don't disagree. That was the point I was trying to make. He wasn't playing aggressively enough on offense. He' was deferring to Markus too much, and he's not the only one. Sacar has a habit of being passive on offense at times. Both Koby and Sacar showed more aggressiveness today driving to the hole but they just didn't finish consistently. Koby hurting his thumb doesn't help matters. That's why I noted his decent stat line the two games before the injury. It was the last thing Koby needed right as he was starting to contribute more offensively. The Creighton game was Koby at his worst offensively, the Villanova game was Koby at his best. The team needs to get the median of those two games from Koby every night to be successful. And he still needs to do " the little things ".
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Yeah, I don't disagree.
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Yeah that was poorly worded, though I do stand by my point about Koby looking better in the two games before he hurt his thumb. And notice I said decent and for two games. I didn't even include the Purdue game because I felt it was an outlier. I did not suggest he had been playing well the entire preseason. He was playing like a utility player not like a stud combo guard. I thought he was easing into the offense and not trying to step on anyone's toes( egos ya know ). I also believe the thumb injury right before the Creighton game affected his play. He bounced back in the Villanova game but everything was going in for him that game. I posted after the game that I was hopeful but skeptical of a repeat performance. I have no idea how bad the thumb is so I'll cut him some slack on his misses at the rim, but if it is leading to missed shots Sacar may need more minutes at the point. Obviously Wojo doesn't trust Symir yet.
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Koby was awful last night. And thumb injury or not some of those layups he threw up there were absolute garbage. Wojo said something about "funny shots" on the postgame with Homer and I'm certain he was talking about the Koby layups that didn't go anywhere near the basket. The kid is athletic and can get to the hoop, but once there he's a waste.
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Once Koby has the ball his first instinct to try and hoist a shot. Couple times last night the GOAT was open and Koby took it in his own hands to make a play. I would give the freshman a ton more playing time at the point. He will be needed next year and beyond.
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Once Koby has the ball his first instinct to try and hoist a shot. Couple times last night the GOAT was open and Koby took it in his own hands to make a play. I would give the freshman a ton more playing time at the point. He will be needed next year and beyond.
Agreed. Time to put this matter to bed. He's not any good, and what do we have to lose by playing a freshman at this point?
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Agreed. Time to put this matter to bed. He's not any good, and what do we have to lose by playing a freshman at this point?
Koby has been really bad on offense, but Torrence is definitely a liability on defense right now. I'd like to see more of him, but he's the worst backcourt defender we have at this point.
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Koby has been really bad on offense, but Torrence is definitely a liability on defense right now. I'd like to see more of him, but he's the worst backcourt defender we have at this point.
I still think McEwen will end up being very good for us and we need him to be if we are going to get into the tournament with a seed that gives us a chance. I'm happy with a few more minutes for Torrence, though, I like his mindset with the ball in his hands.
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See Jim rome’s Take on “pick up basketball guy”. Funny chit
Black hole is a guy who doesn’t pass
Ed?
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Once Koby has the ball his first instinct to try and hoist a shot. Couple times last night the GOAT was open and Koby took it in his own hands to make a play. I would give the freshman a ton more playing time at the point. He will be needed next year and beyond.
I agree, but here is the problem - at least as I see it. Kobe is back next year.
I think if Kobe was a senior, both Greg and Sy would see more minutes. but Wojo sees Kobe as one of the leaders of the team next year; hence, he doesn't attempt to limit him in any way despite ample evidence that it should happen.
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Ed?
One more thing I love about Symir, he always finds Ed in position to make a quick move and score. The more Ed dribbles and moves, the less likely the ball comes out and more likely he doesn't score.
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Koby was awful last night. And thumb injury or not some of those layups he threw up there were absolute garbage. Wojo said something about "funny shots" on the postgame with Homer and I'm certain he was talking about the Koby layups that didn't go anywhere near the basket. The kid is athletic and can get to the hoop, but once there he's a waste.
I mostly agree with your take and with Wojos " funny shots" comment. Koby seems unsure of himself at times which leads to hesitation, and like the saying goes.... " He who hesitates is lost "
The only parts I take exception with is the "total garbage" and "he's a waste" comment. Besides being extreme it's somewhat inaccurate. In two of our biggest wins this season Koby contributed in very significant ways.
Koby lacks confidence and consistency at the moment, and is dealing with an injured thumb. If the thumb isn't injured to the point of affecting his shot then I say let him work through it. If it is, sit him and let it heal. Sacar has shown he can be serviceable at the point and Symir has shown flashes on offense. Neither situation is optimal, but it is what it is.
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Koby has been really bad on offense, but Torrence is definitely a liability on defense right now. I'd like to see more of him, but he's the worst backcourt defender we have at this point.
Could not agree More. So what the answer? 3rd Base.
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Could not agree More. So what the answer? 3rd Base.
Greg didn't have a good shooting night against Providence, but I would like to see more of him and Markus. I liked having Cain start ahead of McEwen when Koby was out. Start Cain, Greg is first off the bench, let McEwen and Torrence fight for minutes behind him.
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Greg didn't have a good shooting night against Providence, but I would like to see more of him and Markus. I liked having Cain start ahead of McEwen when Koby was out. Start Cain, Greg is first off the bench, let McEwen and Torrence fight for minutes behind him.
Sounds like a plan and if doesn't work keep adjusting.
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Greg didn't have a good shooting night against Providence, but I would like to see more of him and Markus. I liked having Cain start ahead of McEwen when Koby was out. Start Cain, Greg is first off the bench, let McEwen and Torrence fight for minutes behind him.
What is up with Greg’s free throw stroke...it looks like he is shot putting it.
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What is up with Greg’s free throw stroke...it looks like he is shot putting it.
At least it's not Jayce's stroke? ;D
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Greg didn't have a good shooting night against Providence, but I would like to see more of him and Markus. I liked having Cain start ahead of McEwen when Koby was out. Start Cain, Greg is first off the bench, let McEwen and Torrence fight for minutes behind him.
While I agree, I don't see that happening. McEwen has been really tough to watch, and I'd love to see less of him until he is more consistent, but he's not going to be the 3rd guy off the bench.
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"He who hesitates is lost" is a saying?
Haven't heard that one in all my years.
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"He who hesitates is lost" is a saying?
Haven't heard that one in all my years.
Yeah, It's a classic, as in old.
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who was the last transfer that lived up to half the hype? yu'd think maybe we'd get lucky once and one of these guys actually improved from the prior year and shocked the chit outta us. he'd get the keys to cobeen if he could-they're still all coeds eyn'a? man, i lost my innocence over there a whole bunch of times :D
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who was the last transfer that lived up to half the hype? yu'd think maybe we'd get lucky once and one of these guys actually improved from the prior year and shocked the chit outta us. he'd get the keys to cobeen if he could-they're still all coeds eyn'a? man, i lost my innocence over there a whole bunch of times :D
Rowsey.
And cool? Congrats!
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He who hesitates is lost, but haste makes waste.
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He who hesitates is lost, but haste makes waste.
Touché
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Touché
Mcewen has been simply horrible offensively. Today he wasnt horrible, with that said tyrning point in the game was when he mussed the dunk down 5 n then bricked both ft’s. SH went on a 7-0 run n ball game.
All that said, sacar n bailey shoot better than 3-18 n we r right there. Guys arent stepping up. Getting good shots gotta make shots and defensively we are not very tuff. Hard to win
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Rowsey.
And cool? Congrats!
yes, he was kinda the only one i had on my very short list, but was kinda hoping to have a, you know, list and i didn't consider a list to be, umm, one
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yes, he was kinda the only one i had on my very short list, but was kinda hoping to have a, you know, list and i didn't consider a list to be, umm, one
You asked for “the last transfer to live up to the hype.” By definition that’s a list of one.
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You asked for “the last transfer to live up to the hype.” By definition that’s a list of one.
you're right-got me.
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You asked for “the last transfer to live up to the hype.” By definition that’s a list of one.
Carlino. The team didn't, but he did.
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Mike flory, david boone, tyrone baldwin
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You asked for “the last transfer to live up to the hype.” By definition that’s a list of one.
What was the hype for Johnson. In my mind it was a fouls guy who could rebound, nothing more, nothing less. What “hype” are people talking about?
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Mcewen has been simply horrible offensively. Today he wasnt horrible, with that said tyrning point in the game was when he mussed the dunk down 5 n then bricked both ft’s. SH went on a 7-0 run n ball game.
All that said, sacar n bailey shoot better than 3-18 n we r right there. Guys arent stepping up. Getting good shots gotta make shots and defensively we are not very tuff. Hard to win
Yeah, he did some positive things, and then he wiped them all out by failing in key moments. He and a few others need to put together a complete game. Specifically Brendan and Sacar. Markus isn't infallible either. If Marquette can get 30 solid minutes from each of them on both ends, every game, our fortunes should change. If not..........
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Super solid game for Koby.
9 assists, only 1 turnover, very good defense ... and 4 perfectly pure FTs that barely even rippled the net to clinch the win.
Making a big contribution even when the shot's not there is something good basketball players do.
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Absolutely agree! Love to see him get his shot going, but his defense, court vision, and cool under pressure are pretty much always there.
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Key in Koby's game yesterday was only 1 turnover. (Granted, it was a horrible, untimely turnover... but thankfully that was it).
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Key in Koby's game yesterday was only 1 turnover. (Granted, it was a horrible, untimely turnover... but thankfully that was it).
Agreed. I'll take 6 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists and 1 turnover from Koby just about any day. Even when he's not shooting well, he can make an impact in other ways.
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Agreed. I'll take 6 points, 5 rebounds, 9 assists and 1 turnover from Koby just about any day. Even when he's not shooting well, he can make an impact in other ways.
His D was great except for fouling 3 pt shooter
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"He who hesitates is lost" is a saying?
Haven't heard that one in all my years.
It's a proverb
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But it is trying to regain it's amateur status.
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But it is trying to regain it's amateur status.
its vs. it's
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Free throws do matta. Lol
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Key in Koby's game yesterday was only 1 turnover. (Granted, it was a horrible, untimely turnover... but thankfully that was it).
If that turnover and the subsequent tying three pointer that Koby was late to challenge had led to a loss, I would have been extremely worried about Kobys confidence moving forward. Thankfully we won, and hopefully Koby can build on the good things he accomplished in the GTown game.
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