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Title: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: auburnmarquette on December 04, 2019, 08:05:26 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Cheeks on December 04, 2019, 08:10:39 PM
Remember, Purdue sucks...read it here
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on December 04, 2019, 08:11:37 PM
Remember, Purdue sucks...read it here

My god u are a relentless A-hole.  May  God pity u
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: We R Final Four on December 04, 2019, 08:12:19 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Mutaman on December 04, 2019, 08:46:51 PM
My god u are a relentless A-hole.  May  God pity u

relentless
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: brewcity77 on December 04, 2019, 08:56:09 PM
Purdue jumps up in Pomeroy from 13 to 5 after their win over UVa.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: 79Warrior on December 04, 2019, 08:57:49 PM
Remember, Purdue sucks...read it here

Who cares
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: MU82 on December 04, 2019, 09:01:35 PM
Who cares

Well, actually, a lot of Scoopers seemed to care after our great comeback win against them. Many of the Wojo-haters responded with a collective shrug because "Purdue isn't very good."

They were ranked going into the season, they have some good players, they have a fine coach, and they apparently are good enough to beat a Tony Bennett team by 10,884 points.

We beat Purdue. If they go on to have a good season, it will be considered an outstanding win come March.

So I care, and all Marquette fans who actually want our alma mater to be in the NCAAs probably should care at least a little, too.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: UWW2MU on December 04, 2019, 09:03:14 PM
Well, actually, a lot of Scoopers seemed to care after our great comeback win against them. Many of the Wojo-haters responded with a collective shrug because "Purdue isn't very good."

They were ranked going into the season, they have some good players, they have a fine coach, and they apparently are good enough to beat a Tony Bennett team by 10,884 points.

We beat Purdue. If they go on to have a good season, it will be considered an outstanding win come March.

So I care, and all Marquette fans who actually want our alma mater to be in the NCAAs probably should care at least a little, too.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: StillAWarrior on December 04, 2019, 09:20:14 PM
Well, actually, a lot of Scoopers seemed to care after our great comeback win against them. Many of the Wojo-haters responded with a collective shrug because "Purdue isn't very good."

They were ranked going into the season, they have some good players, they have a fine coach, and they apparently are good enough to beat a Tony Bennett team by 10,884 points.

We beat Purdue. If they go on to have a good season, it will be considered an outstanding win come March.

So I care, and all Marquette fans who actually want our alma mater to be in the NCAAs probably should care at least a little, too.

You certainly make it hard for a guy to be edgy on here.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: wadesworld on December 04, 2019, 10:40:57 PM
This is going to twist some posters into pretzels. Some want to use KenPom’s current rankings to definitively say Butler and Xavier are better than us this season no questions asked but then want to say Purdue sucks because Wojo can’t lead a team to a big win despite being ranked 5th in KenPom.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: fjm on December 04, 2019, 11:14:17 PM
Amazing. 80% of scoop claims our won vs Purdue was luck.

WOJO sucks.

Purdue beats Vurgania.

WOJO STILL
SICKS.



This site is wrong.  Always.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: MU82 on December 04, 2019, 11:15:47 PM
This is going to twist some posters into pretzels. Some want to use KenPom’s current rankings to definitively say Butler and Xavier are better than us this season no questions asked but then want to say Purdue sucks because Wojo can’t lead a team to a big win despite being ranked 5th in KenPom.

Well, the Purdue win over Virginia really doesn't count for KenPom because Sam isn't a Cavalier yet.

I mean, that's just math.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: wadesworld on December 04, 2019, 11:19:49 PM
Maybe Sam can write a petition to Coach Bennett explaining why the team would benefit from a faster pace so that everyone, not just the player(s) with the last name Hauser, can get more shots.  That's all the Hausers, the quintessential teammates, wanted.  More shots for Theo John and Ed Morrow, not themselves.  They already were getting their fair share of shots.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on December 04, 2019, 11:26:33 PM
Remember, Purdue sucks...read it here

And remember from another thread, we suck in relation to uVA too.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: WarriorDad on December 04, 2019, 11:32:43 PM
Maybe Sam told his teammates after Marquette beat Purdue they would be an easy win for the Cavs tonight.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Cheeks on December 05, 2019, 07:20:25 AM
relentless

The fact that you and Sand Knit Boyscout Swan are in cahoots....couldn’t be a better pair.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Cheeks on December 05, 2019, 07:21:06 AM
Well, actually, a lot of Scoopers seemed to care after our great comeback win against them. Many of the Wojo-haters responded with a collective shrug because "Purdue isn't very good."

They were ranked going into the season, they have some good players, they have a fine coach, and they apparently are good enough to beat a Tony Bennett team by 10,884 points.

We beat Purdue. If they go on to have a good season, it will be considered an outstanding win come March.

So I care, and all Marquette fans who actually want our alma mater to be in the NCAAs probably should care at least a little, too.

Well said...weird that 79 wouldn’t care.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2019, 07:38:56 AM
Just as I want Purdue to win the rest of their games now, I know I'm similarly supposed to hope Wisconsin isn't terrible this season. But that's asking too much. I want them to fail completely.

Last night at NC State, Floppy McDickpuncher got booed every time he touched the ball and his team got routed.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article238051919.html?

Especially loved this:

Davison was mostly a non-factor. He came into the game second on the team in scoring (12.1 points per game) but only made one shot and finished with three points.

The Badgers, who came into the game off of losses to Richmond and New Mexico, aren’t the same type of team that made the NCAA tournament as a No. 5 seed last year. They’re miles from the 2015 heyday of ending Kentucky’s perfect season (before losing to Duke in the national title game).

Frank Kaminsky and Sam Dekker aren’t walking through that door for the Badgers but it was an important night for N.C. State, nonetheless.


Some might argue all of the above makes our loss to F%cky look even worse, and I obviously didn't like that result, either. But if one looks around what's happening in college basketball night-in and night-out, a lot of very good teams have suffered a lot worse losses than ours at Kohl.

Why, I hear the defending national champions just lost by 29 points to a Purdue team that's "not very good."
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 05, 2019, 07:51:26 AM
It’s almost as if the first 4-6 weeks of a season can lend itself to inconsistencies out of 18-22 year-olds.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: BubbaWilliams on December 05, 2019, 07:51:31 AM
Sam Hauser has never been on a team that has beaten Purdue.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2019, 08:29:15 AM
It’s almost as if the first 4-6 weeks of a season can lend itself to inconsistencies out of 18-22 year-olds.

Crazy, huh?

Sam Hauser has never been on a team that has beaten Purdue.

Made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 05, 2019, 08:32:48 AM
Just as I want Purdue to win the rest of their games now, I know I'm similarly supposed to hope Wisconsin isn't terrible this season. But that's asking too much. I want them to fail completely.

Last night at NC State, Floppy McDickpuncher got booed every time he touched the ball and his team got routed.
And they shot 5-22 from 3P I believe.  Looks like the MU game was a massive aberration, and/or they can't shoot away from the Kohl Hole.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Its DJOver on December 05, 2019, 08:36:34 AM
And they shot 5-22 from 3P I believe.  Looks like the MU game was a massive aberration, and/or they can't shoot away from the Kohl Hole.

They've played 4 home games, shooting 35% from 3.  Not great, not terrible, but they're 4-0.

They've played 4 games away from Madison (3 neutral, 1 road), shooting 20% from 3. They're 0-4
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on December 05, 2019, 08:46:06 AM
Just as I want Purdue to win the rest of their games now, I know I'm similarly supposed to hope Wisconsin isn't terrible this season. But that's asking too much. I want them to fail completely.

Last night at NC State, Floppy McDickpuncher got booed every time he touched the ball and his team got routed.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article238051919.html?

Especially loved this:

Davison was mostly a non-factor. He came into the game second on the team in scoring (12.1 points per game) but only made one shot and finished with three points.

The Badgers, who came into the game off of losses to Richmond and New Mexico, aren’t the same type of team that made the NCAA tournament as a No. 5 seed last year. They’re miles from the 2015 heyday of ending Kentucky’s perfect season (before losing to Duke in the national title game).

Frank Kaminsky and Sam Dekker aren’t walking through that door for the Badgers but it was an important night for N.C. State, nonetheless.


Some might argue all of the above makes our loss to F%cky look even worse, and I obviously didn't like that result, either. But if one looks around what's happening in college basketball night-in and night-out, a lot of very good teams have suffered a lot worse losses than ours at Kohl.

Why, I hear the defending national champions just lost by 29 points to a Purdue team that's "not very good."

Totally agree, if the Badgers have a 10-year run like DePaul's from 2008-2018 I'd be very happy. I hope they don't even get a CBI invite this year.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: wadesworld on December 05, 2019, 09:05:35 AM
Do the Badgers still use a different ball than what most of the NCAA basketball teams use?  I know they always had, but thought I had read somewhere that they were changing the ball they use.

Also, I've noticed different balls being used all over the place.  Marquette's is always a Nike ball.  They were using a Spalding ball at the tournament they played in.  Wouldn't it be best to have a universal ball used for all NCAA D1 basketball games?
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: MU82 on December 05, 2019, 09:09:18 AM
Looks like the MU game was a massive aberration, and/or they can't shoot away from the Kohl Hole.

Or both.

Against us, Wisconsin shot 47.8% from 3. Against everybody else this season ... 27.3%

Against us, The Great Brevin Pritzl shot 75% from 3. Against everybody else this season ... 25.9%

And that disparity ain't only because of the quality of the shots. I've seen Wisconsin miss several dozen wide-open 3s this season.

We were on the road, our star didn't play well, and we had the misfortune of being on the wrong end of a way-better-than-average shooting night by our opponent.

It happens. Just ask Duke, Kentucky, UNC, etc.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Nukem2 on December 05, 2019, 09:13:08 AM
Do the Badgers still use a different ball than what most of the NCAA basketball teams use?  I know they always had, but thought I had read somewhere that they were changing the ball they use.

Also, I've noticed different balls being used all over the place.  Marquette's is always a Nike ball.  They were using a Spalding ball at the tournament they played in.  Wouldn't it be best to have a universal ball used for all NCAA D1 basketball games?
One  would think there would be  tight standards for ball size and makeup regardless of the manufacturer.  Read that article you reference and there is surprisingly a lot of latitude in the current standards.  From that article, the Badgers did use an off brand under Bo but have apparently since switched to one of the major brands.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 05, 2019, 09:26:49 AM
Or both.

Against us, Wisconsin shot 47.8% from 3. Against everybody else this season ... 27.3%

Against us, The Great Brevin Pritzl shot 75% from 3. Against everybody else this season ... 25.9%

And that disparity ain't only because of the quality of the shots. I've seen Wisconsin miss several dozen wide-open 3s this season.

We were on the road, our star didn't play well, and we had the misfortune of being on the wrong end of a way-better-than-average shooting night by our opponent.

It happens. Just ask Duke, Kentucky, UNC, etc.

MU is their Super Bowl whether they admit it or not.

Davison has heard that the flop rule was because of him: https://madison.com/wsj/sports/college/basketball/men/badgers-brad-davison-under-microscope-with-new-rule-aimed-at/article_3b1602a5-523c-5c1e-a50d-24eb10323303.html
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 05, 2019, 09:43:07 AM
Totally agree, if the Badgers have a 10-year run like DePaul's from 2008-2018 I'd be very happy. I hope they don't even get a CBI invite this year.

Let them have a 07 year too cause you know they'd be convinced they should've been invited and it'd drive them crazy
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: skianth16 on December 05, 2019, 09:49:01 AM
Amazing. 80% of scoop claims our won vs Purdue was luck.

WOJO sucks.

Purdue beats Vurgania.

WOJO STILL
SICKS.



This site is wrong.  Always.

You mean sports fan had strong opinions? And had the audacity to voice them on a message board created for sports fans? What in the actual heck, amiright?

There were some posts about Purdue being overrated and not as good as many had expected them to be after that win. And based on the second half they played (largely influence by our defense), that wasn't a crazy take a few games into the season. I'm happy to see that they might actually be a pretty solid team. That's a great resume builder for us.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on December 05, 2019, 09:55:42 AM
Let them have a 07 year too cause you know they'd be convinced they should've been invited and it'd drive them crazy

Okay fine once every 10-11 years they can be good enough to feel like they should get a tourney bid but get snubbed. Good addition to my UW fantasy scenario.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: 1SE on December 05, 2019, 11:15:17 AM
This is the ball article - pretty interesting

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28072023/the-hidden-disadvantage-facing-college-basketball-road-teams

"It was good when we played Wisconsin [with the Sterling ball]," Michigan State coach Tom Izzo quipped. "We just went out in the backyard, got a rock and tried to shoot with it."

Looks like they use a Wilson now - which is the Tourney ball but I don't think as popular as the Nike or Adidas

https://madison.com/wsj/sports/college/basketball/men/whole-new-ball-game-badgers-using-a-different-basketball-this/article_14772d2c-8c20-5dc4-95b4-17794627a3f1.html
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 05, 2019, 11:19:51 AM
Looks like they use a Wilson now - which is the Tourney ball but I don't think as popular as the Nike or Adidas

This is interesting. Unless contractually required otherwise, I think all teams would want to get used to the tournament ball.

Consistency is generally good in sports.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Warrior Code on December 05, 2019, 11:53:44 AM
Has anyone played with an Under Armour ball? What's so bad about it?
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: 1SE on December 05, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
This is interesting. Unless contractually required otherwise, I think all teams would want to get used to the tournament ball.

Consistency is generally good in sports.

It's pretty nuts especially since the both the size and weight can vary (the latter by 10%) - that seems like it could make a very noticeable difference.

I wonder if any of the advanced metrics that home-away ball brand differentials into account.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: NickelDimer on December 05, 2019, 02:28:40 PM
It's pretty nuts especially since the both the size and weight can vary (the latter by 10%) - that seems like it could make a very noticeable difference.

I wonder if any of the advanced metrics that home-away ball brand differentials into account.
Holy crap I’d never heard about this ball nonsense. That’s the most UW basketball thing ever.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 05, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
Holy crap I’d never heard about this ball nonsense. That’s the most UW basketball thing ever.
Same.  I didn't even realize that there was no official ball, or that UW of Madison choose to go off brand.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Cheeks on December 05, 2019, 09:09:29 PM
Holy crap I’d never heard about this ball nonsense. That’s the most UW basketball thing ever.

Last month

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=59362.msg1174026#msg1174026

Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: IrwinFletcher on December 05, 2019, 09:16:38 PM
IU heads to the Kohl Center Saturday and the have dominated the Hoosiers there.  We will see how bad they are if they can’t continue to handle them at home.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 05, 2019, 11:32:23 PM
It's pretty nuts especially since the both the size and weight can vary (the latter by 10%) - that seems like it could make a very noticeable difference.

I wonder if any of the advanced metrics that home-away ball brand differentials into account.

To their credit Syracuse university did a study of Nike balls vs others.  This article covers it - and was before WI switched to Wilson balls.
http://dailyorange.com/2016/11/wisconsins-use-sterling-basketballs-reflects-inconsistency-throughout-ncaa/
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Its DJOver on December 11, 2019, 09:28:18 PM
And they shot 5-22 from 3P I believe.  Looks like the MU game was a massive aberration, and/or they can't shoot away from the Kohl Hole.

Serious question.  How long has a team gone into the season where they have won every home game they have played, and lost every game away from home that they've played?  Surely some SWAC team only played buy away games that they lost through the entire non-conference.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=401166112

I fully expect them to beat UWM and Rider at home, and lose @Tenn and @OSU.  January 8th road game against Illinois is winable, although in theory so was tonight. 
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: GoldenZebra on December 11, 2019, 09:37:02 PM
Cant believe MU lost that game vs UW. Every loss UW gets sucks because it shows MU was a much better team that ended up facing an abnormally hot shooting team that day.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: MU82 on December 11, 2019, 09:39:45 PM
Rutgers hehe.

Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Warrior Code on December 11, 2019, 10:35:26 PM
The RAC Attack lives on
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: jonny09 on December 12, 2019, 10:42:04 AM
As stated before.  This badger team flat out stinks.  I remember some smart guy saying they would get plenty of scalps this year.  And anybody who previously stated Nate Reuvers was really good is blind. 
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 12, 2019, 10:53:33 AM
I like Reuvers. But he is not Happ and he has no help
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 12, 2019, 10:53:41 AM
As stated before.  This badger team flat out stinks.  I remember some smart guy saying they would get plenty of scalps this year.  And anybody who previously stated Nate Reuvers was really good is blind.

A reminder that Potter is eligible for the next game. Reuvers’ role will change. Your premise holds, though, but Bucky should be better.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 12, 2019, 01:50:13 PM
A reminder that Potter is eligible for the next game. Reuvers’ role will change. Your premise holds, though, but Bucky should be better.

Poor Potter, there has to be so much pressure on him. So many fans think they would have been unbeaten IF the damn NCAA gave him a waiver. If he doesn't perform like Superman there will be much disappointment in Buckyville.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on December 12, 2019, 01:54:45 PM
Poor Potter, there has to be so much pressure on him. So many fans think they would have been unbeaten IF the damn NCAA gave him a waiver. If he doesn't perform like Superman there will be much disappointment in Buckyville.

the next Harry Froling?
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: lawdog77 on December 12, 2019, 02:05:50 PM
I like Reuvers. But he is not Happ and he has no help
King looks the part, but is inconsistent. Davison looks like he does not care. Everyone else is role player, on their best day. Awaiting Potter to put up Wilt type numbers.
Title: Re: Purdue win looking good :-) Purdue 69 #5 UVA 40
Post by: Uncle Rico on December 12, 2019, 05:54:10 PM
King looks the part, but is inconsistent. Davison looks like he does not care. Everyone else is role player, on their best day. Awaiting Potter to put up Wilt type numbers.

Potter is going to be NPOY.  I’ve never seen so much hype for a 3* transfer in my life