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Title: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 17, 2019, 03:00:36 PM
Did we miss the Hausers today?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 17, 2019, 03:03:30 PM
Did we miss the Hausers today?

Not me. F*ck em.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Nukem2 on November 17, 2019, 03:07:36 PM
Of course we did.  The team is a work in progress offensively that needs to find its identity.  Hard to overcome the unplanned loss of two significant starters that fast.  Not just about next man up.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: hoops12 on November 17, 2019, 03:10:56 PM
Of course we did, especially Sam! You can't take a three year starter, and second leading scorer/rebounder, out of the lineup and not feel the effects. It was his decision to leave and not fulfill his commitment. I loved him as a player, and those boys come from a great family. However, I choose to focus on the guys that want to be at Marquette! We will have many better days ahead.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: nyg on November 17, 2019, 03:13:19 PM
Would MU have won with Sam
Would MU won with Joey
Would MU have won with Sam and Joey.

Where's the comedians with the "Letter" jokes.

My goodness, it is just a fit of nausea with the same old context.  Will this continue after every loss for the next three years and will it be like the Tom Crean references 11 years after the fact? 
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: f/k/a humanlung on November 17, 2019, 03:13:59 PM
Any team would miss the Hauser's.

The question is, can the team compensate and overcome it?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: WhiteTrash on November 17, 2019, 03:19:00 PM
Any team would miss the Hauser's.

The question is, can the team compensate and overcome it?
Agreed. Anyone who voted 'No' is voting with their heart and not their head. (Which is understandable).
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on November 17, 2019, 03:21:42 PM
Agreed. Anyone who voted 'No' is voting with their heart and not their head. (Which is understandable).

Of course we missed what they could bring. They didn’t want to be here. It’s a stupid question. Let it go and roll with who’s here.

They don’t cross my mind while we’re playing. Again, f*ck em.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Nukem2 on November 17, 2019, 03:23:52 PM
Sacar is obviously missing the Hausers.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Small Orange Soda on November 17, 2019, 03:24:57 PM
My goodness, it is just a fit of nausea with the same old context.  Will this continue after every loss for the next three years and will it be like the Tom Crean references 11 years after the fact?

It's definitely gonna happen after every loss this year due to Sam.  'Tis life.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: WhiteTrash on November 17, 2019, 03:25:03 PM
Of course we missed what they could bring. They didn’t want to be here. It’s a stupid question. Let it go and roll with who’s here.

They don’t cross my mind while we’re playing. Again, f*ck em.
I never thought about them either during this game. I'm rooting like hell for the guys with Marquette on their chests.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: muhoops1 on November 17, 2019, 03:31:29 PM
They play somewhere else and Trevor is the most celebrated walk-on in history.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: MUEng92 on November 17, 2019, 04:04:08 PM
The internet...home of completely unprovable assertions discussed in voices of absolute certainty
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Nukem2 on November 17, 2019, 04:06:59 PM
The internet...home of completely unprovable assertions discussed in voices of absolute certainty
The offense has certainly been far less fluid and/or effective this year so far without the brothers.  That’s rather provable.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Cheeks on November 17, 2019, 04:10:18 PM
Shouldn’t the question be which version of the Hausers?  The ones down the stretch last year, no we didn’t miss that version.  The early and mid season version...yup.

So which one?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: MUEng92 on November 17, 2019, 04:12:43 PM
I seem to recall multiple games last year where there was no discernible flow to the offense.  And if I remember correctly there were Hausers playing in those games.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Nukem2 on November 17, 2019, 04:14:32 PM
Shouldn’t the question be which version of the Hausers?  The ones down the stretch last year, no we didn’t miss that version.  The early and mid season version...yup.

So which one?
Think you answered your own question.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: WhiteTrash on November 17, 2019, 04:19:09 PM
I seem to recall multiple games last year where there was no discernible flow to the offense.  And if I remember correctly there were Hausers playing in those games.
Well, this thread is turning sour on Wojo.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: franklinjerry on November 17, 2019, 04:26:09 PM
Thanks for the question. I'm so sick of the "We're so much more athletic" without the Hausers. "Team chemistry is so much better" You have the right to say good riddance, but you are ignorant if you say we are better without them. Yes Bailey is more athletic, probably a better defender but who is a better basketball player, more likely to help you win a game?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: wadesworld on November 17, 2019, 04:28:14 PM
Thanks for the question. I'm so sick of the "We're so much more athletic" without the Hausers. "Team chemistry is so much better" You have the right to say good riddance, but you are ignorant if you say we are better without them. Yes Bailey is more athletic, probably a better defender but who is a better basketball player, more likely to help you win a game?

Neither of the things you quoted was what you ended up claiming people said.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 17, 2019, 04:45:59 PM
Rico, give it a rest. Or I suppose you could do this after every loss.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Uncle Rico on November 17, 2019, 04:46:53 PM
Rico, give it a rest. Or I suppose you could do this after every loss.

Kind of hoping for one spot to discuss them than instead of multiple threads.  Silly, I know
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: franklinjerry on November 17, 2019, 05:36:01 PM
I'll type slower. Yes we are more athletic. We may or may not have better chemistry than the end of last year. We are a worse team without one or both Hausers. Difficult to go inside out when you have two fewer "out" options. See how Purdue defended Marcus. We are worse off this year. We will be worse off the next two years without Joey regardless of which scholarship player replacers him.  Izzo is not a fool. Joey will be a very good college BB player.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Class71 on November 17, 2019, 09:57:25 PM
I hate to say it but I miss Buzz.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Small Orange Soda on November 17, 2019, 10:01:54 PM
I hate to say it but I miss Buzz.

Consider the sanctions he put us under though.  He left Wojo in a deep hole that we're still trying to dig out of six years later.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Warrior of Law on November 17, 2019, 10:08:57 PM
Consider the sanctions he put us under though.  He left Wojo in a deep hole that we're still trying to dig out of six years later.

I don’t recall any sanctions Buzz put us under. I do recall talented players winning games.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: WhiteTrash on November 17, 2019, 10:22:38 PM
Consider the sanctions he put us under though.  He left Wojo in a deep hole that we're still trying to dig out of six years later.
Funny stuff.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 17, 2019, 10:26:02 PM
I don’t recall any sanctions Buzz put us under. I do recall talented players winning games.

Think soda was being facetious.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: MUfan12 on November 17, 2019, 10:47:15 PM
Think soda was being facetious.

Until that shoe drops, aina?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: WarriorPride68 on November 18, 2019, 08:45:49 AM
I think next year losing Markus, Sacar, Ed & Jayce will be very interesting with a potential starting lineup of Koby, Elliot, Cain, Bailey & Theo with no experience off bench. Almost gives you the chills thinking about it.
Dawson, plz (https://media.giphy.com/media/9RNGg4IQiufp6/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: brewcity77 on November 18, 2019, 08:54:40 AM
When our frontcourt gives us virtually no production, yes, it's safe to say we missed the Hausers today.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 18, 2019, 08:58:10 AM
I think next year losing Markus, Sacar, Ed & Jayce will be very interesting with a potential starting lineup of Koby, Elliot, Cain, Bailey & Theo with no experience off bench. Almost gives you the chills thinking about it.
Dawson, plz (https://media.giphy.com/media/9RNGg4IQiufp6/giphy.gif)

Ridiculous that we could have that much experience and yet almost zero notable returning production
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: PointWarrior on November 18, 2019, 08:58:52 AM
They played about as well yesterday as they did down the stretch last year with the Hausers - so in a sense they did not miss them.   :-*
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: GOO on November 18, 2019, 09:01:35 AM
Shouldn’t the question be which version of the Hausers?  The ones down the stretch last year, no we didn’t miss that version.  The early and mid season version...yup.

So which one?

This is exactly the question and answer.  The answer is no, if they had stayed and started how they finished.  The answer is yes, if that was a temporary blip and a summer together would have smoothed over the situation.  So, I go no, since they were not willing to work on it/work it out long term.

As an aside, the new Markus, who doesn't look for his shot as often, seems intentional. I don't like it.  He is too good to not be a ball hog and put up shots.  I think he has to be "running down hill" all the time to get into his groove.  There were a few times where he stepped behind a screener, had a moment and space and I expected him to let it rip...  but he didn't as he sees to be playing more within a team strategy.  Me no like. Markus needs a letter from teammates to tell him to be a ball hog, he is too good.
 
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Goose on November 18, 2019, 09:13:16 AM
GOO

I think a big part of the new Markus is that he has to work harder to get his shots. Other teams are being more physical with him and we do not many playmakers to open things up. Like the Hausers or not, but other teams knew they had to guard them or they would hit the open shot. In addition, new Markus or not, he did hoist up 21 shots yesterday.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on November 18, 2019, 09:14:05 AM
Ridiculous that we could have that much experience and yet almost zero notable returning production


Probably should let this season play out before we say that.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: war1980rior on November 18, 2019, 09:47:05 AM
Shouldn’t the question be which version of the Hausers?  The ones down the stretch last year, no we didn’t miss that version.  The early and mid season version...yup.

So which one?

Voted no, as I don't think Joey would have been as much help as most might want.  Early in the season, turnovers and forced shots.  Sam?  He's very reliable and would have helped.  I like that you split this, but I think one more split down the middle.  Early Joey, more so, despite the TOs.  Late Joey, no way.  Early Sam, probably, and late same, probably.

I like this new team.  Koby is a huge asset.  Need someone else to be the "next man up."  I think it's going to be healthier Greg.  Also, Jamal seems to play his best with Greg on the floor.  Is that just me?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: GrimmReaper33 on November 18, 2019, 10:00:03 AM
Last year against UW the Hauser bros combined for 28 points and 15 rebounds on 10-19 shooting (5-8 from three).  Yes, we could have used them.

Newsflash- we will miss them all year long.  We can try to act like they aren't good players to make ourselves feel good but that's not really the case.  They didn't want to be here, so let's just move on.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Pakuni on November 18, 2019, 10:10:54 AM
We really missed Steve Novak yesterday.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: CTWarrior on November 18, 2019, 10:20:34 AM
As an aside, the new Markus, who doesn't look for his shot as often, seems intentional. I don't like it. 
What!?!  He looks for his own shot first, second and third.  Yesterday it was harder for him to get the shots because they threw multiple defenders at him.  He took them anyway.  He rarely passes the ball except when he can't get a shot.

Yesterday he took 21 shots in 35 minutes and had 2 assists.  That's a guy looking for his own shot.  If his shots go down from last year, it will only because we have another guard who can handle the ball so he doesn't have the ball all the time.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 18, 2019, 10:39:55 AM
We really missed Sacar Animalities and Brendan Bailey yesterday.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: fjm on November 18, 2019, 11:13:15 AM
We missed the Hausers a ton too when we got smoked by Indiana and Murray state last year.

They are not on the team anymore. Get over it.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 18, 2019, 12:23:19 PM
We really missed Sacar Animalities and Brendan Bailey yesterday.

The artificial intelligence function on the iPhone has some room for improvement, aina?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: 79Warrior on November 18, 2019, 01:11:13 PM
We really missed Sacar Animalities and Brendan Bailey yesterday.

Sacar yes, BB no. BB had almost no production last year so what is there to miss? He has picked up right where he left off. He looks awful so far.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 18, 2019, 01:32:22 PM
The artificial intelligence function on the iPhone has some room for improvement, aina?

Amen
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 18, 2019, 01:35:38 PM
Sacar yes, BB no. BB had almost no production last year so what is there to miss? He has picked up right where he left off. He looks awful so far.

Careful, that's a soon to be Marquette "all timer" you're talking about.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 18, 2019, 01:45:03 PM
We really missed Steve Novak yesterday.

Funny. Maybe Chones would have helped, too.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: BrewCity83 on November 18, 2019, 01:49:06 PM
We missed Dwyane Wade yesterday.  Damn, why did he have to leave early?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Goose on November 18, 2019, 01:51:13 PM
Lenny

I now doubt if the current BB will match the BB of your era. I had high hopes for him and they are slowly fading away.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 18, 2019, 01:59:27 PM
Lenny

I now doubt if the current BB will match the BB of your era. I had high hopes for him and they are slowly fading away.

Goose

That BB had sharp elbows and was tough as nails - and he could really shoot it. This one is still TBD but the early returns  are mixed at best. Hope he bounces back.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: willie warrior on November 18, 2019, 03:19:42 PM
Last year against UW the Hauser bros combined for 28 points and 15 rebounds on 10-19 shooting (5-8 from three).  Yes, we could have used them.

Newsflash- we will miss them all year long.  We can try to act like they aren't good players to make ourselves feel good but that's not really the case.  They didn't want to be here, so let's just move on.
And Wiscy had a better team last year than the current one that kicked our highly regarded teams ass.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: willie warrior on November 18, 2019, 03:20:44 PM
Sacar yes, BB no. BB had almost no production last year so what is there to miss? He has picked up right where he left off. He looks awful so far.
Yet Wojo starts the guy.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Ardmore Mug on November 18, 2019, 04:37:20 PM
Well, IF the Hausers were still here, how many of the other players  would not have been here??   There was talk of 2 or 3 other players that were ready to leave, IF the Hausers returned.   I know from a a very good source, that Sacar would have left...  Just throwing that out there...  8-)
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Silent Verbal on November 18, 2019, 04:40:42 PM
Well, IF the Hausers were still here, how many of the other players  would not have been here??   There was talk of 2 or 3 other players that were ready to leave, IF the Hausers returned.   I know from a a very good source, that Sacar would have left...  Just throwing that out there...  8-)

And yet some point to the fact that no other players leaving means chemistry is great and we now exclusively have the players who “want to be Warriors.”  The 2 or 3 guys who were going to leave stayed because the Hausers’ minutes opened up.  Let’s see how much Bailey wants to be a Warrior when he starts riding pine.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 18, 2019, 06:37:17 PM
Well, IF the Hausers were still here, how many of the other players  would not have been here??   There was talk of 2 or 3 other players that were ready to leave, IF the Hausers returned.   I know from a a very good source, that Sacar would have left...  Just throwing that out there...  8-)

Tower has opined that had Joey and Sam stayed they would have been competing for minutes at the 4. I disagree, think we would have played "big" most of the time - Theo 5, Joey 4, Sam 3, Koby and Markus at guard with Sacar fighting Elliot for back up guards minutes. Given that scenario, I wouldn't have blamed him for leaving.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Goose on November 18, 2019, 06:44:03 PM
Lenny
Anyone that thinks that Cain or BB were going to take minutes from Joey are delusional. Sam and Joey would have played the same, or more, minutes than last year.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: tower912 on November 18, 2019, 06:48:48 PM
Bailey and Cain should have taken minutes from Joey down the stretch last year.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Cheeks on November 18, 2019, 07:18:03 PM
And Wiscy had a better team last year than the current one that kicked our highly regarded teams ass.

Did Kentucky have a better team than Evansville?  Some of you amaze me.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Lennys Tap on November 18, 2019, 07:21:41 PM
Bailey and Cain should have taken minutes from Joey down the stretch last year.

Jamal played himself into a permanent spot on the bench last year.

Brendan had moments (on defense, anyway) but never looked comfortable offensively. So far that hasn't changed. Wasn't me who put Joey out there for almost 30 minutes a game,. Go ahead and rip Wojo if you want, but I think he was right. Watching Sacar and BB (he looks extremely uncomfortable out there) I have zero doubt Joey's minutes would actually be up this year.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: 79Warrior on November 18, 2019, 07:34:54 PM
Jamal played himself into a permanent spot on the bench last year.

Brendan had moments (on defense, anyway) but never looked comfortable offensively. So far that hasn't changed. Wasn't me who put Joey out there for almost 30 minutes a game,. Go ahead and rip Wojo if you want, but I think he was right. Watching Sacar and BB (he looks extremely uncomfortable out there) I have zero doubt Joey's minutes would actually be up this year.

On a small 3 game sample you are right. I still think Sacar will get it going. I have seen very little from BB that make me believe he will contribute meaningfully.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: harryp on November 18, 2019, 10:11:03 PM
He might have a better chance to recover if this board would lay off for a while -- at least for a game or two.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 19, 2019, 06:08:56 AM

Probably should let this season play out before we say that.

That's fair.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: #UnleashSean on November 19, 2019, 06:35:31 AM
Anyone thinking sacar and bb would take any minutes from the hausers are delusional.
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: tower912 on November 19, 2019, 07:18:21 AM
Do you ever truly miss someone who didn't want to be here?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 19, 2019, 07:55:48 AM
Woj missed da Houses, hey?
Title: Re: Did We Miss the Hausers Today?
Post by: warriorjoe on November 19, 2019, 07:59:11 AM
The Wisconsin fans sure missed the Hausers.

You could hear them loud and clear at the Kohl Center late in the second half Sunday.

Go Warriors!