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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: TallTitan34 on October 04, 2019, 11:51:32 PM
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Video:
https://twitter.com/dannyparkins/status/1180342451824992257?s=21
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Also, Snoop shot a money gun at the players.
https://t.co/CTdulzStI5
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(https://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Screen-Shot-2019-09-27-at-6.33.19-PM-832x447.png)
And Self is wearing this in the intro video...
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https://sports.yahoo.com/bill-self-on-pole-dancers-at-snoop-doggs-late-night-performance-it-was-not-the-right-way-to-provide-entertainment-041344220.html
Late Friday night, Kansas athletic director Jeff Long took responsibility for the event and “not understanding what acrobatic performers are in today's entertainment world.”
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Haha those stripper poles must have also just appeared out of nowhere without their knowledge.
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Under NCAA notice, Self and KU double down with a show reminding us of Pitino when he took Louisville down his vortex of self imposed doom.
Once you sell your soul to the devil ....well sooner or later it will get hotter
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Hope Kanas cuts down the nets this year
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Under NCAA notice, Self and KU double down with a show reminding us of Pitino when he took Louisville down his vortex of self imposed doom.
Once you sell your soul to the devil ....well sooner or later it will get hotter
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Self doesn't organize or plan much when it comes to midnight madness.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Self doesn't organize or plan much when it comes to midnight madness.
Yet he shot this video...squirmy. I am sure Cheeks is on Jayhawks Scoop proclaiming the other shoe is about to drop at one of his alma maters.
https://twitter.com/KUAthletics/status/1177661601467572230?s=20
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Any footage of lap dances, hey?
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absolute madman.
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As an alum....burn the program to the ground....start over.
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As an alum....burn the program to the ground....start over.
So Snoop Dogg was the final straw ;)
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So Snoop Dogg was the final straw ;)
Nope...long ago.
No doubt Rico loves this.
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Yet he shot this video...squirmy. I am sure Cheeks is on Jayhawks Scoop proclaiming the other shoe is about to drop at one of his alma maters.
https://twitter.com/KUAthletics/status/1177661601467572230?s=20
Adidas is in bed with Snoop, has been for a long time.
I don’t have the inside scoop on KU like I have had with MU....but yes I find KU squirmy as hell. I also hold MU to a higher ethical standard.
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Nope...long ago.
No doubt Rico loves this.
Doesn’t matter if I love it, matters if the players and potential recruits loved it
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Doesn’t matter if I love it, matters if the players and potential recruits loved it
Yup, because the whims of 17 year olds with their brilliant wisdom, intelligence and high ethical and moral values after being in society for so long is the go to default here.
Recruit high character people and don’t worry about that nonsense.
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Yup, because the whims of 17 year olds with their brilliant wisdom, intelligence and high ethical and moral values after being in society for so long is the go to default here.
Recruit high character people and don’t worry about that nonsense.
Old man yells at cloud
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Adidas is in bed with Snoop, has been for a long time.
I don’t have the inside scoop on KU like I have had with MU....but yes I find KU squirmy as hell. I also hold MU to a higher ethical standard.
Why? Both schools are members of the NCAA...both should be held to the same standard, don’t you think? I mean Adidas was in bed with KU when you were there too. If you read the message boards, many of their fans see this as a big eff you to the NCAA. You can’t argue amateurism on one hand, and not be outraged at this, especially in light of all these violations.
If you are looking at crapshoots, start right here. What’s your message board handle over there so we can track your outrage? Absolutely indicative of the disdain many feel, including the legislatures. Long and Self should have been fired months ago.
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Doesn’t matter if I love it, matters if the players and potential recruits loved it
I think the parents of the recruits and players probably loved Snoop back in the day.
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I think the parents of the recruits and players probably loved Snoop back in the day.
Probably. Disappointed he didn’t use the cannon to throw real money at the players
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Kansas has apologized to the pearl clutchers.
https://deadspin.com/kansas-ad-apologizes-for-acrobatic-dancers-unclean-l-1838807384
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i wouldn't want my kid anywhere near snoop dog nor beeself
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yeah baby, "gun and juice" that's gotta be a real artistic masterpiece
and phog is running for the showers
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yeah baby, "gun and juice" that's gotta be a real artistic masterpiece
and phog is running for the showers
It’s “Gin and Juice”. A 25 year old song from an iconic hip hop album.
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i wouldn't want my kid anywhere near snoop dog nor beeself
Why?
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Kansas has apologized to the pearl clutchers.
https://deadspin.com/kansas-ad-apologizes-for-acrobatic-dancers-unclean-l-1838807384
I don't consider myself a "pearl clutcher," but I do think this was a pretty bad look for any university's official function.
Snoop and "strippers" makin' it rain? Some Scoopers really think that would be a good thing to do at our Madness?
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I don't consider myself a "pearl clutcher," but I do think this was a pretty bad look for any university's official function.
Snoop and "strippers" makin' it rain? Some Scoopers really think that would be a good thing to do at our Madness?
No. It was dumb and tacky.
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Context is everything here. Snoop with money cannons and pole dancers is generally awesome and worth it even though you know you'll have to issue a half-hearted the apology the next day. But its the kind of thing you can't do if you are a Catholic school reliant on pretty conservative folks for donations. If you're a UK or a Florida or a USC, though - have the press release of the apology on delayed send when you walk out of the office on Friday at 5 and go for it. Risk is worth the reward.
BUT its the kind of thing you really can't do if you are KU and Bill Self right now. Holy hell what are they thinking? They should just put the picture of him with the adidas t-shirt and the money chain on a projector during the hearings. Honestly, is he in deeper than we think with unsavory elements and trying to prove he's not a cop? Is this the worst (best?) witness protection strategy ever? My lord, this makes me worried for Bill Self's safety.
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Context is everything here. Snoop with money cannons and pole dancers is generally awesome and worth it even though you know you'll have to issue a half-hearted the apology the next day. But its the kind of thing you can't do if you are a Catholic school reliant on pretty conservative folks for donations. If you're a UK or a Florida or a USC, though - have the press release of the apology on delayed send when you walk out of the office on Friday at 5 and go for it. Risk is worth the reward.
What's the reward?
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BUT its the kind of thing you really can't do if you are KU and Bill Self right now. Holy hell what are they thinking? They should just put the picture of him with the adidas t-shirt and the money chain on a projector during the hearings. Honestly, is he in deeper than we think with unsavory elements and trying to prove he's not a cop? Is this the worst (best?) witness protection strategy ever? My lord, this makes me worried for Bill Self's safety.
Bill Self to crowd right before Snoop:
I heard a long time ago that actually bad publicity is better than no publicity,” Self said to laughter from the stands.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article235787637.html
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It’s “Gin and Juice”. A 25 year old song from an iconic hip hop album.
oh! my bad ::) another 10 years sooner and i could have had another choice for my wedding march. hard to decide-on the way in/out of the church
why wouldn't i want my kids near snoop or self? probably somewhere between there are many more better choices out there for role models and their latest shows are a window into the soul. secondly, he's(snoopy) a drug addict and misogynist who continues to advocate for drug abuse. one who needs sunglasses 99% of the time is hiding something. self is a not on a good roll, doubling down on "catch me if you can"
the article, i believe stated guns, but still not a fan
bill self-gee willikers, they said it was going to be a clean show...let the investigation begin
you've gotta be trolling me sully
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oh! my bad ::) another 10 years sooner and i could have had another choice for my wedding march. hard to decide-on the way in/out of the church
why wouldn't i want my kids near snoop or self? probably somewhere between there are many more better choices out there for role models and their latest shows are a window into the soul. secondly, he's(snoopy) a drug addict and misogynist who continues to advocate for drug abuse. one who needs sunglasses 99% of the time is hiding something. self is a not on a good roll, doubling down on "catch me if you can"
the article, i believe stated guns, but still not a fan
bill self-gee willikers, they said it was going to be a clean show...let the investigation begin
you've gotta be trolling me sully
What kind of music do you listen to? Because many artists have crappy pasts and music other have never heard of.
I wonder what’s different about Snoop? Hmmmm. It’s a mystery.
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"Because many artists have crappy pasts and music other have never heard of."
oh, one of those, "they all do it" responses. ok, i'll play along-gee sully, that may very well be, BUT most people don't revel off of their character flaws as the same people who would admonish(used very lightly) their enemies for say, degrading(ahem, most hypocrites in the #metoo thingy) women and being able to roll the best joint. but thank you as i am starting an intensive review of my music playlist as we speak
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Why? Both schools are members of the NCAA...both should be held to the same standard, don’t you think? I mean Adidas was in bed with KU when you were there too. If you read the message boards, many of their fans see this as a big eff you to the NCAA. You can’t argue amateurism on one hand, and not be outraged at this, especially in light of all these violations.
If you are looking at crapshoots, start right here. What’s your message board handle over there so we can track your outrage? Absolutely indicative of the disdain many feel, including the legislatures. Long and Self should have been fired months ago.
I don’t disagree at all that they should have been fired months ago, so should Miller at UA. But it isn’t quite that simple...but I think they will get theirs. You don’t think I am not outraged by it....LOL....of course I am. Why do you think I also have a bug up my arse for one of our former coaches, too?
I don’t message over there or IU...I don’t spend my time or emotions of fandom toward them, but that doesn’t mean I approve of it. I also hold MU to a much higher ethical standard. Fair?
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I don't consider myself a "pearl clutcher," but I do think this was a pretty bad look for any university's official function.
Snoop and "strippers" makin' it rain? Some Scoopers really think that would be a good thing to do at our Madness?
It was really dumb, and optics look horrible. Burn it to the ground.
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I don't consider myself a "pearl clutcher," but I do think this was a pretty bad look for any university's official function.
Snoop and "strippers" makin' it rain? Some Scoopers really think that would be a good thing to do at our Madness?
That's fine, and I don't think any here is advocating for this at Marquette madness.
But the reaction from some quarters has been a little over the top. Fluffy nailed it ... "dumb and tacky." But that's all it was.
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"Because many artists have crappy pasts and music other have never heard of."
oh, one of those, "they all do it" responses. ok, i'll play along-gee sully, that may very well be, BUT most people don't revel off of their character flaws as the same people who would admonish(used very lightly) their enemies for say, degrading(ahem, most hypocrites in the #metoo thingy) women and being able to roll the best joint. but thank you as i am starting an intensive review of my music playlist as we speak
I have no idea what you are even saying here.
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That's fine, and I don't think any here is advocating for this at Marquette madness.
But the reaction from some quarters has been a little over the top. Fluffy nailed it ... "dumb and tacky." But that's all it was.
In today’s cancel culture, hyper sensitivity about just about everything, I am surprised women’s groups, professors, etc, haven’t already registered their ire. I agree, dumb, tacky, bad optics, etc....but today you get sent to the slaughter for this kind of stuff.
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I don’t message over there or IU...I don’t spend my time or emotions of fandom toward them, but that doesn’t mean I approve of it. I also hold MU to a much higher ethical standard. Fair?
It seems like we are not that off on the endgame. However, you are/were on first name basis with Fred Glass and the KU ticket office. You were at IUAD when Bobby Knight was verbally and physically abusing people. Maybe you should share your outrage beyond Buzz Williams? The world would be a better place. Even out your outrage to all your roots.
KU is scum. It was scum when you were there. It was scum before you were there. The NCAA always had a blind eye. Now, they are what they earned--morally bankrupt.
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Rocket calling anyone else a misogynist is like the pot calling the kettle black eh?
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Rocket calling anyone else a misogynist is like the pot calling the kettle black eh?
So to speak.
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Rocket calling anyone else a misogynist is like the pot calling the kettle black eh?
of course you know i'm a lesbian, right?
i don't know wtf you are alluding to here btw...might as well throw in racist too, oh, what the hell, i hate everything, but you know, all of "my kind" do. as a matter of fact, i'm wearing my confederate flag duluth trading buck naked undies as we speak and they don't stink ;)
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I saw 2 live crew perform live last nght in a strip club. No lie.
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In today’s cancel culture, hyper sensitivity about just about everything, I am surprised women’s groups, professors, etc, haven’t already registered their ire. I agree, dumb, tacky, bad optics, etc....but today you get sent to the slaughter for this kind of stuff.
Nobody gets sent to the slaughter. To the contrary, there's a lucrative cottage industry for guys who whine about how they're oppressed by cancel culture (see: Adam Carolla, Bill Burr). So oppressed they get Netflix specials.
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all these snowflakes out there with their pc sjw bs. i miss the days when people could just be happy with success on the playing field and not worry about what was going on behind the scenes at schools. the days when joe pa could win national titles and larry nassar could send girls to the olympics and everyone could be happy with that. men could be men and do as they needed without hundreds of snowflakes coming out and complaining about what it took to keep them happy in their positions. millennials ruin everything.
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In today’s cancel culture, hyper sensitivity about just about everything, I am surprised women’s groups, professors, etc, haven’t already registered their ire. I agree, dumb, tacky, bad optics, etc....but today you get sent to the slaughter for this kind of stuff.
(https://niketalk.com/media/michael-keaton-dismissive-wank-gif.2336954/full)
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To bring this full circle. What if Snoop wanted to pay a Marquette student athlete 20K to appear at his concerts and or videos. Would those who want these SA's to profit off their NIL have a problem with it?
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To bring this full circle. What if Snoop wanted to pay a Marquette student athlete 20K to appear at his concerts and or videos. Would those who want these SA's to profit off their NIL have a problem with it?
Nope
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Rocket calling anyone else a misogynist is like the pot calling the kettle black eh?
Very black.
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Nobody gets sent to the slaughter. To the contrary, there's a lucrative cottage industry for guys who whine about how they're oppressed by cancel culture (see: Adam Carolla, Bill Burr). So oppressed they get Netflix specials.
If one is long established, and can survive the nonsense...potentially. Good luck to anyone else willing to say or try something that might upset people’s feelings.
Cancel culture exists for a reason, because it has happened.
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If one is long established, and can survive the nonsense...potentially. Good luck to anyone else willing to say or try something that might upset people’s feelings.
Cancel culture exists for a reason, because it has happened.
Cancel culture is simply another term that people use to victimize themselves. You know...from the group that used to think victimization was a bad thing. Now they've made a cottage industry of it.
But it's painfully obvious this group also doesn't have any sort of morals or values they apply consistently, so I shouldn't be surprised.
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It seems like we are not that off on the endgame. However, you are/were on first name basis with Fred Glass and the KU ticket office. You were at IUAD when Bobby Knight was verbally and physically abusing people. Maybe you should share your outrage beyond Buzz Williams? The world would be a better place. Even out your outrage to all your roots.
KU is scum. It was scum when you were there. It was scum before you were there. The NCAA always had a blind eye. Now, they are what they earned--morally bankrupt.
Good Lord. The ncaa has not always had a blind eye. Always is always. Never is never. KU, Kentucky, etc, have all been put on ncaa probation. Yes, some programs cheat, some cheat really well. And you are right, as an intern almost 30 years ago at KU I am sure it was going on just as some stuff was going on at MU.
Even out my outrage...this is a MU board, not a KU or IU board. I could say the same thing to you and others about the blind eye turned against a certain coach here all in the name of just win baby. I have stated my contempt for certain behaviors of Mr. Knight on a number of occasions, not sure why you are ignoring those.
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Cancel culture is simply another term that people use to victimize themselves. You know...from the group that used to think victimization was a bad thing. Now they've made a cottage industry of it.
But it's painfully obvious this group also doesn't have any sort of morals or values they apply consistently, so I shouldn't be surprised.
LOL. The irony of deliciousness.
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If one is long established, and can survive the nonsense...potentially. Good luck to anyone else willing to say or try something that might upset people’s feelings.
Cancel culture exists for a reason, because it has happened.
Can you name five people who have been “cancelled”?
I’m genuinely interested.
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Can you name five people who have been “cancelled”?
I’m genuinely interested.
And please define "cancelled" while you're at it.
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Can you name five people who have been “cancelled”?
I’m genuinely interested.
Define cancelled, because to me having your life severely f’d is essentially the same thing. I’d be happy to, but I also know the SJW’s will say how justified it was, proof and evidence be damned....allegation and innuendo is enough.
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Define cancelled, because to me having your life severely f’d is essentially the same thing. I’d be happy to, but I also know the SJW’s will say how justified it was, proof and evidence be damned....allegation and innuendo is enough.
Lol.
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Define cancelled, because to me having your life severely f’d is essentially the same thing. I’d be happy to, but I also know the SJW’s will say how justified it was, proof and evidence be damned....allegation and innuendo is enough.
Aka “I have no idea what ‘cancelled culture’ is but I hear people using the term so...”
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Aka “I have no idea what ‘cancelled culture’ is but I hear people using the term so...”
Just as weak as the MU Sports Law reports in the NBA salary cap that he said he would provide.
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Define cancelled, because to me having your life severely f’d is essentially the same thing. I’d be happy to, but I also know the SJW’s will say how justified it was, proof and evidence be damned....allegation and innuendo is enough.
You are so much smarter than this. We agree on a lot, disagree on a lot, but I asked a question in truly a non trolling fashion. The past 8 weeks or so you have been mentioned this type of culture, I’m just genuinely interested who you think has been “cancelled”.
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Define cancelled, because to me having your life severely f’d is essentially the same thing. I’d be happy to, but I also know the SJW’s will say how justified it was, proof and evidence be damned....allegation and innuendo is enough.
The cowardice burns strong in this one.
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You are so much smarter than this. We agree on a lot, disagree on a lot, but I asked a question in truly a non trolling fashion. The past 8 weeks or so you have been mentioned this type of culture, I’m just genuinely interested who you think has been “cancelled”.
Is he though?
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I don’t have the inside scoop on KU like I have had with MU....but yes I find KU squirmy as hell. I also hold MU to a higher ethical standard.
Your "inside scoop" re MU was that other major shoes were going to drop regarding the Buzz years. Turned out to be an empty promise. a cheap shot you never backed up.
Quoting stuff already in the public domain is not inside information.
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Bill Self to crowd right before Snoop:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article235787637.html
“We cheated, we got caught and we’re going to flaunt it.”
Hope they go winless. Dollar Bill is scum and has finally been exposed.
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Even out my outrage...this is a MU board, not a KU or IU board. I could say the same thing to you and others about the blind eye turned against a certain coach here all in the name of just win baby.
Sorry, this dog won't hunt. You've very publicly rooted for Self/Kansas here, bragged about being an alum, etc.. You very publicly rooted for TC at both MU and IU in spite of all his "squirmy". But when MU fans celebrate the mostly great BW era, "Never Buzzer" Chico goes high and mighty and lectures the "great unwashed". Spare us. The smell of "phony" is overwhelming.
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You are so much smarter than this. We agree on a lot, disagree on a lot, but I asked a question in truly a non trolling fashion. The past 8 weeks or so you have been mentioned this type of culture, I’m just genuinely interested who you think has been “cancelled”.
OK, here would be my examples.
Sarah Silverman...literally cancelled her movie appearance the night before she was set to be make it because she did blackface in the past in a skit promoting racial hypocrisy (apparently only leaders in Canada, Virginia, etc are allowed to do blackface, not comedians)
The young man who raised over $1M a few weeks ago at ESPN Game Day asking for Venmo money for beer....money went to Iowa children's hospital, but oh noes...media member found a tweet by this guy when he was age 16...repeat...age 16 when he repeated lyrics from a rap song and commented on it, so companies cancelled participating with him as he was now radioactive.
Kathy Griffin...poor taste with beheaded head of a person...but comedy....literally cancelled her shows
Kevin Hart....to host the Oscars...but oh noes...as a comedian he had a tweet that was offensive...no more hosting the Oscars
Shane Gillis, SNL comedian cancelled (fired) for doing what comedians and SNL have done on that show for decades. But because he wasn't established yet, he got the heave ho
Etc, etc, etc. I'm glad Seinfeld is calling it out, and Bill Barr, Chappelle, and others. Lenny Bruce is rolling in his grave, as is George Carlin.
Now I have no doubt someone will say....Kevin Hart is still a star, blah blah blah. Yup, but he also took a hit for being a comedian and doing what comedians do....if he wasn't as powerful as he is, his career would have been hurt much worse.
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Sorry, this dog won't hunt. You've very publicly rooted for Self/Kansas here, bragged about being an alum, etc.. You very publicly rooted for TC at both MU and IU in spite of all his "squirmy". But when MU fans celebrate the mostly great BW era, "Never Buzzer" Chico goes high and mighty and lectures the "great unwashed". Spare us. The smell of "phony" is overwhelming.
Cherry picking again, nothing new there. I also blasted IU for cheating under Sampson and for the issues they had under Crean with alcohol, etc. Also on a number of occasions spoke about what went on under Knight and he and his guys would call Bloomington P.D. to get his boys out from in trouble. But of course you mention none of these when I stated them....the smell of your bias in not mentioning that is OVERWHELMING. Would you like those examples, of course you don't and if I bothered to take the time to present them, you would BS your way through them anyway. Same old same old.
KU, I have smacked them here as well. But as I stated, I do hold MU to a higher standard. Sorry you don't like that...too bad.
But yes, I am a proud alum of both of those schools, good academic programs and proud to have gone through two AAU schools and achieve quality acadmic results.
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OK, here would be my examples.
Sarah Silverman...literally cancelled her movie appearance the night before she was set to be make it because she did blackface in the past in a skit promoting racial hypocrisy (apparently only leaders in Canada, Virginia, etc are allowed to do blackface, not comedians)
The young man who raised over $1M a few weeks ago at ESPN Game Day asking for Venmo money for beer....money went to Iowa children's hospital, but oh noes...media member found a tweet by this guy when he was age 16...repeat...age 16 when he repeated lyrics from a rap song and commented on it, so companies cancelled participating with him as he was now radioactive.
Kathy Griffin...poor taste with beheaded head of a person...but comedy....literally cancelled her shows
Kevin Hart....to host the Oscars...but oh noes...as a comedian he had a tweet that was offensive...no more hosting the Oscars
Shane Gillis, SNL comedian cancelled (fired) for doing what comedians and SNL have done on that show for decades. But because he wasn't established yet, he got the heave ho
Etc, etc, etc. I'm glad Seinfeld is calling it out, and Bill Barr, Chappelle, and others. Lenny Bruce is rolling in his grave, as is George Carlin.
Now I have no doubt someone will say....Kevin Hart is still a star, blah blah blah. Yup, but he also took a hit for being a comedian and doing what comedians do....if he wasn't as powerful as he is, his career would have been hurt much worse.
I agree that some of these are clearly absurd. Like the dude raising money for the hospital AND the reporter who reported on it.
But some of these things aren't exactly new. Comedians who push the envelop have regularly had to face repercussions for their act. When you push the envelope, that's what happens. And when you have the internet preserving things and making everything instant, it amplifies everything.
I'm not sure this is a "culture" issue anymore than just a boycott amplified.
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Just as weak as the MU Sports Law reports in the NBA salary cap that he said he would provide.
First https://musportslawsociety.wordpress.com/2016/07/12/making-sense-of-stupid-money-how-the-differences-between-the-nfl-and-nba-affect-players-contract-negotiations/
An older take, prior to the 2011 CBA which began the reforms needed to save the league and then done again in 2016. https://scholarship.law.marquette.edu/facpub/249/
And another https://digitalcommons.law.ou.edu/olr/vol67/iss1/1/
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I agree that some of these are clearly absurd. Like the dude raising money for the hospital AND the reporter who reported on it.
But some of these things aren't exactly new. Comedians who push the envelop have regularly had to face repercussions for their act. When you push the envelope, that's what happens. And when you have the internet preserving things and making everything instant, it amplifies everything.
I'm not sure this is a "culture" issue anymore than just a boycott amplified.
I gave some off the top of my head, I'm sure I could go much deeper if I wished. The fact we have Seinfeld and others calling it out, shows me it is an issue. And it isn't just celebs, we have people trying to destroy kids lives. Kids trying to go to college, or what have you. The Covington BS is another example of massive over reaction and trying to take people down for simply having a POV. It is disgraceful.
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First https://musportslawsociety.wordpress.com/2016/07/12/making-sense-of-stupid-money-how-the-differences-between-the-nfl-and-nba-affect-players-contract-negotiations/
An older take, prior to the 2011 CBA which began the reforms needed to save the league and then done again in 2016. https://scholarship.law.marquette.edu/facpub/249/
And another https://digitalcommons.law.ou.edu/olr/vol67/iss1/1/
First https://musportslawsociety.wordpress.com/2016/07/12/making-sense-of-stupid-money-how-the-differences-between-the-nfl-and-nba-affect-players-contract-negotiations/
An older take, prior to the 2011 CBA which began the reforms needed to save the league and then done again in 2016. https://scholarship.law.marquette.edu/facpub/249/
And another https://digitalcommons.law.ou.edu/olr/vol67/iss1/1/
Well the last two don't refer to the "latest CBA," which is the one signed in 2016. And none of them that I could tell assert that the 2011 saved the league, but I get your point.
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Good Lord. The ncaa has not always had a blind eye. Always is always. Never is never. KU, Kentucky, etc, have all been put on ncaa probation. Yes, some programs cheat, some cheat really well. And you are right, as an intern almost 30 years ago at KU I am sure it was going on just as some stuff was going on at MU.
Even out my outrage...this is a MU board, not a KU or IU board. I could say the same thing to you and others about the blind eye turned against a certain coach here all in the name of just win baby. I have stated my contempt for certain behaviors of Mr. Knight on a number of occasions, not sure why you are ignoring those.
You worked at IU and KU under those scummy admins. You weren't a just fan or a just a student. Those are two of the highest profile universities in college basketball. Both cheated including under your buddies Crean and Fred Glass. KU ticket scandal? Squirmy.
Why wouldn't you be on their Scoops proclaiming your moral stance? The NCAA is dead. Long live the Cartel!
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“We cheated, we got caught and we’re going to flaunt it.”
Hope they go winless. Dollar Bill is scum and has finally been exposed.
+1 million.
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Cherry picking again, nothing new there. I also blasted IU for cheating under Sampson and for the issues they had under Crean with alcohol, etc. Also on a number of occasions spoke about what went on under Knight and he and his guys would call Bloomington P.D. to get his boys out from in trouble. But of course you mention none of these when I stated them....the smell of your bias in not mentioning that is OVERWHELMING. Would you like those examples, of course you don't and if I bothered to take the time to present them, you would BS your way through them anyway. Same old same old.
KU, I have smacked them here as well. But as I stated, I do hold MU to a higher standard. Sorry you don't like that...too bad.
But yes, I am a proud alum of both of those schools, good academic programs and proud to have gone through two AAU schools and achieve quality acadmic results.
Ooooh that smell
Can't you smell that smell
Ooooh that smell
The smell of death (hypocrisy) surrounds you
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You worked at IU and KU under those scummy admins. You weren't a just fan or a just a student. Those are two of the highest profile universities in college basketball. Both cheated including under your buddies Crean and Fred Glass. KU ticket scandal? Squirmy.
Why wouldn't you be on their Scoops proclaiming your moral stance? The NCAA is dead. Long live the Cartel!
Criticizing? I think someone here outed him as one of Crean's biggest defenders on Indiana boards.
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You worked at IU and KU under those scummy admins. You weren't a just fan or a just a student. Those are two of the highest profile universities in college basketball. Both cheated including under your buddies Crean and Fred Glass. KU ticket scandal? Squirmy.
Why wouldn't you be on their Scoops proclaiming your moral stance? The NCAA is dead. Long live the Cartel!
LOL. I was an intern at KU, as I stated. A 22 year old kid. Spent most of my time with the football program. IU, I was 25 years old, as a grad assistant. But sure.
KU ticket scandal happened two decades after I left KU, are you getting mixed up again with NIT games that we got turned down for despite your protestations? Crean cheated? Fred Glass cheated? Please say more.
Why wouldn't I be on there....because quite frankly I'm not that big a fan of either program. From a distance, sure, but not anywhere close to MU. Take a look at my office, covered with MU stuff...NADA with IU or KU. Take a look at my home, I have one KU and IU penant in the garage along with a ton of MU stuff. I have a few IU shirts, no KU stuff. Sorry, but when you spend 10 years of your life at one institution as a student and employee, send a child there, marry a woman with ties to the school, best friends from there, etc, etc vs spending a TOTAL of 2.5 years at KU and IU COMBINED....yeah, going to be a little different.
Has this session helped you?
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Cheeks is right about the Iowa kid, wrong about the others.
But his continued citing of George Carlin convinces me he didn't really get Carlin.
Carlin understood the difference between punching up and punching down, and he didn't punch down.
Shane Gillis spewing racist tropes and Kevin Hart saying he'd beat his son if the boy were gay is punching down (and also not funny, btw).
This video of Carlin has been making the rounds since the Gillis brouhaha. He was right then and it's still right today.
https://youtu.be/F8yV8xUorQ8
Lastly, what happened to the Cheeks that demanded people face consequences?
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Ooooh that smell
Can't you smell that smell
Ooooh that smell
The smell of death (hypocrisy) surrounds you
Hmm, I wonder who said this...I guess you and Dr. Blackheart missed it. What was that about hypocrisy?
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=48179.msg748542#msg748542
"As for Knight running his program the right way....that's somewhat disingenious. The old timers at IU will tell you plenty about the stuff some of his teams were doing and how the Bloomington police department kept guys off the front pages. The world has changed. Social media, etc. It's a different world. Doesn't make him any less a great coach, but people make it sound like the 12 cherubs were on those teams. Hardly. Plenty of drugs, booze, women, etc....get in a room with the old coaching staffs and the stories are funny as hell."
Pretty sure this is me https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=42600.msg586179#msg586179
Yup, me still https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39581.msg512050#msg512050
There look to be about 50 to 100 other posts of similar vein. I invite you to use search, it really is a nice feature of MUScoop.
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Hmm, I wonder who said this...I guess you and Dr. Blackheart missed it. What was that about hypocrisy?
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=48179.msg748542#msg748542
"As for Knight running his program the right way....that's somewhat disingenious. The old timers at IU will tell you plenty about the stuff some of his teams were doing and how the Bloomington police department kept guys off the front pages. The world has changed. Social media, etc. It's a different world. Doesn't make him any less a great coach, but people make it sound like the 12 cherubs were on those teams. Hardly. Plenty of drugs, booze, women, etc....get in a room with the old coaching staffs and the stories are funny as hell."
Pretty sure this is me https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=42600.msg586179#msg586179
Yup, me still https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=39581.msg512050#msg512050
There look to be about 50 to 100 other posts of similar vein. I invite you to use search, it really is a nice feature of MUScoop.
https://www.crimsonquarry.com/2011/10/11/2484603/tom-crean-commits-recruiting-violation-involving-gary-harris
https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/otl/news/story?id=6587668
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/news/story?id=5223151
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Criticizing? I think someone here outed him as one of Crean's biggest defenders on Indiana boards.
Ooh, was it some of the same detectives that insist I am Billy Hoyle, too? Yes, some amazing detectives here. LOL.
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Cheeks is right about the Iowa kid, wrong about the others.
But his continued citing of George Carlin convinces me he didn't really get Carlin.
Carlin understood the difference between punching up and punching down, and he didn't punch down.
Shane Gillis spewing racist tropes and Kevin Hart saying he'd beat his son if the boy were gay is punching down (and also not funny, btw).
This video of Carlin has been making the rounds since the Gillis brouhaha. He was right then and it's still right today.
https://youtu.be/F8yV8xUorQ8
Lastly, what happened to the Cheeks that demanded people face consequences?
Oh stop, there is a reason why comedians have blasted SNL for the Gillis stuff. Kevin Hart, same thing. It was ridiculous. Thankfully saner minds like Seinfeld and others are calling this crap out.
Carlin was not for limiting free speech or penalizing someone for having thoughts, and that is exactly what this stuff is. He would rail against the snowflake culture in a heartbeat. I am fine with people facing consequences, but who gets to decide what is acceptable and not....and furthermore, retroactively penalizing someone for something they said 20 years earlier is epic, bullshyte. Carlin also blasted political correctness time and time again, and that is at the core of this crap. Safe spaces...my God Carlin would have had a field day. The second video will make some of you have your heads explode and he would be attacked for saying it...cancel culture.
https://youtu.be/G9n8Xp8DWf8
https://youtu.be/asZ1R-Xylj4
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https://www.crimsonquarry.com/2011/10/11/2484603/tom-crean-commits-recruiting-violation-involving-gary-harris
https://www.espn.co.uk/espn/otl/news/story?id=6587668
https://www.espn.com/college-sports/news/story?id=5223151
Crean and IU reported the violation to the NCAA. Didn’t lie to the AD, etc, etc. Surely you can do better than this. Incidentally he broke a rule or two at MU, and also reported them to the NCAA.
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Cheeks ... you're missing the point, I suspect intentionally, because as obvious as it is, it contradicts your sense of viictimhood (oh, woe is us, we can't make racist and homophobic jokes anymore without consequences!).
Who gets to decide what is acceptable? Everyone!
You think it's hilarious to joke about beating up gay kids? Go like Kevin Hart's tweets and see his next terrible movie. You think Shane Gillis' racial slurs are cute? Great. Listen to his podcast and buy tickets next time he comes to your town. If you find value in that kind of work, support it.
On the other hand, if Lorne Michaels decides Gillis' humor isn't what he wants on his show, then he gets to fire him. And if the Academy doesn't want a host who makes homophobic jokes, they can choose not to have him host their show.
Free market, right? Nobody is stopping these guys from saying what they want to say. But if they say things the audience disagrees with, the audience has the right to reject them.
As for the rest, Drew Magary said it better than I could.
https://gen.medium.com/i-regret-to-inform-you-the-comedians-are-filling-their-big-diapers-again-b20152ba45ac
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Cheeks ... you're missing the point, I suspect intentionally, because as obvious as it is, it contradicts your sense of viictimhood (oh, woe is us, we can't make racist and homophobic jokes anymore without consequences!).
Who gets to decide what is acceptable? Everyone!
You think it's hilarious to joke about beating up gay kids? Go like Kevin Hart's tweets and see his next terrible movie. You think Shane Gillis' racial slurs are cute? Great. Listen to his podcast and buy tickets next time he comes to your town. If you find value in that kind of work, support it.
On the other hand, if Lorne Michaels decides Gillis' humor isn't what he wants on his show, then he gets to fire him. And if the Academy doesn't want a host who makes homophobic jokes, they can choose not to have him host their show.
Free market, right? Nobody is stopping these guys from saying what they want to say. But if they say things the audience disagrees with, the audience has the right to reject them.
As for the rest, Drew Magary said it better than I could.
https://gen.medium.com/i-regret-to-inform-you-the-comedians-are-filling-their-big-diapers-again-b20152ba45ac
+1
It is obvious to everyone other than the full-time professional victim
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+1
It is obvious to everyone other than the full-time professional victim
Y'all gotta stop pickin' on hoopaloop. It's not easy being a white Christian male in America. Those unfortunate folks like him, they just can't catch a single break, and that's the way it's always been.
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Same old. Same old.
You guys have let this creep take another thread down the drain. It will be shut down soon.
Just like another sick narcissist, arguments are his source of energy.
IGNORE him and make Scoop a more pleasant experience.
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Cheeks ... you're missing the point, I suspect intentionally, because as obvious as it is, it contradicts your sense of viictimhood (oh, woe is us, we can't make racist and homophobic jokes anymore without consequences!).
Who gets to decide what is acceptable? Everyone!
You think it's hilarious to joke about beating up gay kids? Go like Kevin Hart's tweets and see his next terrible movie. You think Shane Gillis' racial slurs are cute? Great. Listen to his podcast and buy tickets next time he comes to your town. If you find value in that kind of work, support it.
On the other hand, if Lorne Michaels decides Gillis' humor isn't what he wants on his show, then he gets to fire him. And if the Academy doesn't want a host who makes homophobic jokes, they can choose not to have him host their show.
Free market, right? Nobody is stopping these guys from saying what they want to say. But if they say things the audience disagrees with, the audience has the right to reject them.
As for the rest, Drew Magary said it better than I could.
https://gen.medium.com/i-regret-to-inform-you-the-comedians-are-filling-their-big-diapers-again-b20152ba45ac
I want consistency. Do I think they are funny or cute...didn’t say either way. But when one comedian can say it without impunity, but another one is fired for the same offense...I have a big problem with that. And when you say everyone, that implies everyone is on board with the decision. Why are so many comics pissed about Giles decision? Are you going to claim they are woe is me victims, your standard default nonsense?
And you were wrong on Carlin, it is ok to just admit it. Drew comes from the entitled hypocrisy filled Deadspin / Kissing Susie group that has the consistency of purée. One set of rules for them, different set for others.
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Y'all gotta stop pickin' on hoopaloop. It's not easy being a white Christian male in America. Those unfortunate folks like him, they just can't catch a single break, and that's the way it's always been.
Another racial and religious, gender comment by Mike....always in his playbook...always...ready to unleash whenever he can. Same old same old. Identity attacks ...the height of hypocrisy that Mike knows all to well.
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Another racial and religious, gender comment by Mike....always in his playbook...always...ready to unleash whenever he can. Same old same old. Identity attacks ...the height of hypocrisy that Mike knows all to well.
It wasn't an attack. I feel very sorry for your plight, and I commend you for being able to overcome the extreme difficulties that go with being a white Christian male in America. Thoughts and prayers for your continued survival.
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I want consistency. Do I think they are funny or cute...didn’t say either way. But when one comedian can say it without impunity, but another one is fired for the same offense...I have a big problem with that.
You are right. Eddie Murphy is contemplating a come back to stand up even though what he said in RAW was much worse than what Silverman did. Some coaches get fired even though their team is moderately successful while others are retained even if they are Jason Garrett. Some people are bashed by critics for wearning a tan suit while those same critics excuse something much worse.
Life in a free society.
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I want consistency. Do I think they are funny or cute...didn’t say either way. But when one comedian can say it without impunity, but another one is fired for the same offense...I have a big problem with that.
Examples, please. Like, when in the last three decades did an SNL cast member go on the air and talk about all the "f---ing ch*nks" living in Chinatown and face no negative consequences? When did the host of an awards show say he would beat up his kid for being gay with impunity?
And when you say everyone, that implies everyone is on board with the decision.
Why does everyone have to be on board with the decision? That's stupid. Everyone has a right to decide what they find acceptable. Not everyone has to agree on what is acceptable. If Person A is OK with Shane Gillis' remarks, that person is free to support Shane Gillis. If Person A is outraged by SNL's decision to fire him, stop watching SNL. Write a letter. Tweet angrily about it. Organize a boycott.
And plenty of people do support that kind of comedy, a fact which destroys your "people get canceled" narrative. Guys like bill Burr, Adam Carolla and Joe Rogan has become wealthy and famous by playing the aggrieved white man because there's an audience for it. They're not getting canceled. They're getting rich.
Why are some comics complaining? Because that's what they do. I assume you didn't actually read Magary's piece based on your ad hominem response, but you should. As he points out, there's nothing new in this debate, and nothing new about some comics' response to it.
And you were wrong on Carlin, it is ok to just admit it.
Protip: Declaring yourself "right" is an amateurish rhetorical trick that never works.
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George Carlin would not even be welcome on college campuses today
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2015/09/11/george-carlin-loved-colleges-today-he-wouldnt-even-be-welcome-there/
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In before the lock.
Besides this was about pole dancers. Need more pics.
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