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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: dajudge on September 12, 2019, 07:56:53 AM

Title: Espn
Post by: dajudge on September 12, 2019, 07:56:53 AM
22 in most recent preseason poll
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Windyplayer on September 12, 2019, 08:18:54 AM
Cool. Buried the lede.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on September 12, 2019, 08:36:45 AM
Seems fair. I think we have enough talent to be top 15, but it will depend on the coaching staff finding an offensive gameplan that makes those pieces fit together. Don't do that and there is disaster potential.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 13, 2019, 05:31:10 PM
2nd best player in the country per the coaches plus 5 of the remaining top 7 from last year returning. Should be seashells and balloons, a'ina?
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: jesmu84 on September 13, 2019, 06:41:21 PM
2nd best player in the country per the coaches plus 5 of the remaining top 7 from last year returning. Should be seashells and balloons, a'ina?

Wait... Who are the 2 of 7 gone?
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Cheeks on September 13, 2019, 07:10:12 PM
Wait... Who are the 2 of 7 gone?

Some guy ranked like 650th overall.....
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on September 14, 2019, 06:12:56 PM
Wait... Who are the 2 of 7 gone?
i think wojo has a letter about it
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: wadesworld on September 14, 2019, 08:17:21 PM
2nd best player in the country per the coaches plus 5 of the remaining top 7 from last year returning. Should be seashells and balloons, a'ina?

Go Marquette get Lenny?
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on September 14, 2019, 08:36:32 PM
Lenny’s really is Scoop’s “Get off my lawn guy.”  Just a tiresome mope. 
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: mileskishnish72 on September 15, 2019, 04:39:10 PM
I kind of enjoy Lenny. At least you can read his posts.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Jockey on September 15, 2019, 05:04:20 PM
I kind of enjoy Lenny. At least you can read his posts.

I agree. Lenny is all right - a good poster.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 15, 2019, 11:10:41 PM
Thanks, Miles. Thanks, Jockey.

Now, excuse me while I go inside to mope a bit...but before I go, kindly get the f#ck off my lawn!!!
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: tower912 on September 16, 2019, 06:38:01 AM
Thanks, Miles. Thanks, Jockey.

Now, excuse me while I go inside to mope a bit...but before I go, kindly get the f#ck off my lawn!!!

He says as he pulls off his velcro New Balance.     Nothin' but love for you, Lenny. 
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Cheeks on September 16, 2019, 11:28:20 AM
2nd best player in the country per the coaches plus 5 of the remaining top 7 from last year returning. Should be seashells and balloons, a'ina?
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Ahh, the famous coaches polls....which secretary or intern is voting and selecting this year.....
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: brewcity77 on September 16, 2019, 11:58:41 AM
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Ahh, the famous coaches polls....which secretary or intern is voting and selecting this year.....

In the poll he's referring to...zero. That was the Parish/Norlander poll where they interviewed over 100 D1 coaches.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: rocket surgeon on September 16, 2019, 12:06:07 PM
Thanks, Miles. Thanks, Jockey.

Now, excuse me while I go inside to mope a bit...but before I go, kindly get the f#ck off my lawn!!!

yeah lenny-no matter what they say about ya...great example of when ya meet someone in person after trading chit with them online-lots of good stuff and laughs! 
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 16, 2019, 12:12:07 PM
In the poll he's referring to...zero. That was the Parish/Norlander poll where they interviewed over 100 D1 coaches.

No facts, please. They get in the way of  some's preferred narrative.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Lennys Tap on September 16, 2019, 12:13:12 PM
yeah lenny-no matter what they say about ya...great example of when ya meet someone in person after trading chit with them online-lots of good stuff and laughs!

100% agree, rocket!
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on September 16, 2019, 02:32:06 PM
Seems fair. I think we have enough talent to be top 15, but it will depend on the coaching staff finding an offensive gameplan that makes those pieces fit together. Don't do that and there is disaster potential.

I think an underrated aspect (nationally anyway) of this squad is the defensive upside. The DeFG% last year was excellent (#18); adding height, athleticism, and experience to the equation should put us squarely in the top 10 there. Meaning we should be in most games to the end, where a guy like Markus can generate buckets to put us over the top.

The real upside comes from replacing Sam (solid/above average positional defender) and Joey (bad all around defender) who did not generate turnovers with minutes from guys like Greg/Koby and Jamal/Brendan/Sacar who have more of a propensity to turn over the opposition. Those two things could take us from a top 50 DRtg to a top 10/15. I'd says that's almost more likely to happen than not.

Figuring out the offensive side would be the difference between a win-ugly low-ceiling one-star team like KState/UW with Wade/Happ last year, or a Purdue/Texas Tech type team from last year. Here's hoping for the latter! I see a realistic path to get there, especially given Wojo's offensive resume, and why not be optimistic in September?!
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Goose on September 16, 2019, 03:56:17 PM
Lenny is a HOF scooper.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Cheeks on September 17, 2019, 02:05:41 AM
In the poll he's referring to...zero. That was the Parish/Norlander poll where they interviewed over 100 D1 coaches.


They interviewed “coaches” of all levels in D1,  let’s be clear they weren’t all head coaches and I’d bet some cash that it included such “assistants” as video coordinators, etc
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Cheeks on September 17, 2019, 02:09:55 AM
yeah lenny-no matter what they say about ya...great example of when ya meet someone in person after trading chit with them online-lots of good stuff and laughs!


100% true
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Cheeks on September 17, 2019, 02:19:59 AM
No facts, please. They get in the way of  some's preferred narrative.

The problem is your original post here about this is false.  You said the coaches said Markus was the second best player in college basketball.  No they didn’t.  Read the results again.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: mug644 on September 17, 2019, 05:47:03 AM
I think an underrated aspect (nationally anyway) of this squad is the defensive upside. The DeFG% last year was excellent (#18); adding height, athleticism, and experience to the equation should put us squarely in the top 10 there. Meaning we should be in most games to the end, where a guy like Markus can generate buckets to put us over the top.

The real upside comes from replacing Sam (solid/above average positional defender) and Joey (bad all around defender) who did not generate turnovers with minutes from guys like Greg/Koby and Jamal/Brendan/Sacar who have more of a propensity to turn over the opposition. Those two things could take us from a top 50 DRtg to a top 10/15. I'd says that's almost more likely to happen than not.

Figuring out the offensive side would be the difference between a win-ugly low-ceiling one-star team like KState/UW with Wade/Happ last year, or a Purdue/Texas Tech type team from last year. Here's hoping for the latter! I see a realistic path to get there, especially given Wojo's offensive resume, and why not be optimistic in September?!

Might it also be that Sam’s solid, steady, but not aggressive or risky approach to defense was a key in the overall quality and consistency of last year’s defense? Perhaps guys who try to generate turnovers might be more likely to miss, allowing players to get past them and, ultimately, put more pressure on our interior defense. While Theo is solid, he does have a propensity to foul. I’m not sure which way it will go, but either your outlook or that I describe seem possible.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Coleman on September 17, 2019, 10:48:18 AM
Villanova 11
Seton Hall 15
Xavier 20
MU 22
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on September 17, 2019, 01:46:52 PM
Might it also be that Sam’s solid, steady, but not aggressive or risky approach to defense was a key in the overall quality and consistency of last year’s defense? Perhaps guys who try to generate turnovers might be more likely to miss, allowing players to get past them and, ultimately, put more pressure on our interior defense. While Theo is solid, he does have a propensity to foul. I’m not sure which way it will go, but either your outlook or that I describe seem possible.

Agreed, but that's why having Jayce to rotate in as a shot blocker/rebounder helps with erasing mistakes if Theo gets into foul trouble, and it seems like the plan is to have Ed/Brendan as rangy/bouncy 4's that can block shots from the weak side too. It lets the wings extend pressure a bit more and take chances with a security blanket rather than have everyone play contain
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: Jockey on September 17, 2019, 02:42:57 PM
I think an underrated aspect (nationally anyway) of this squad is the defensive upside. The DeFG% last year was excellent (#18); adding height, athleticism, and experience to the equation should put us squarely in the top 10 there. Meaning we should be in most games to the end, where a guy like Markus can generate buckets to put us over the top.

The real upside comes from replacing Sam (solid/above average positional defender) and Joey (bad all around defender) who did not generate turnovers with minutes from guys like Greg/Koby and Jamal/Brendan/Sacar who have more of a propensity to turn over the opposition. Those two things could take us from a top 50 DRtg to a top 10/15. I'd says that's almost more likely to happen than not.



I agree with what you say here, but I don't get why you think Sacar is going to replace minutes from Sam or Joey. Sacar averaged over 30 minutes per game last year and he will do so again this year, but those will not be minutes that replace what we lost.
Title: Re: Espn
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on September 17, 2019, 02:56:07 PM
Agreed, but that's why having Jayce to rotate in as a shot blocker/rebounder helps with erasing mistakes if Theo gets into foul trouble, and it seems like the plan is to have Ed/Brendan as rangy/bouncy 4's that can block shots from the weak side too. It lets the wings extend pressure a bit more and take chances with a security blanket rather than have everyone play contain
I've asked this before, but has Ed ever shown the skills to defend beyond 8 feet from the basket?  I'll be happy if proven wrong, but I just can't see him going out to defend a stretch 4, and if he does venture out I don't see him being able to defend a drive. 

Further, he had shown absolutely no range on offense, so it just seems he with either be standing outside completely unguarded while his defender sags to help a la Derrick Wilson, or he'll be clogging the middle and making it difficult for Markus, Sacar, etc to slash to the basket.

It doesn't seem to me like spacing will work at either end.