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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: WolfganghisKhan on September 10, 2019, 10:43:24 AM
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Terrible idea.
Someone get this changed, thanks.
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All time lack of understanding of what the day is supposed to be
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They were caught between a rock and a hard place. 11a Sunday. Plenty of time to catch a flight home. It was either that or Superbowl weekend. Pick your poison. Frankly I think it was a reasonable answer.
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This is worse news than the Hausers leaving.
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They were caught between a rock and a hard place. 11a Sunday. Plenty of time to catch a flight home. It was either that or Superbowl weekend. Pick your poison. Frankly I think it was a reasonable answer.
You choose 2/1 100/100 times. The people that this affects care a lot more about Marquette/mubb than the Superbowl.
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Seriously why? Why is Sunday such an non starter? And don't just say because. Actual reasons why it is such an inferior choice. I'll listen.
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People want to drink all day and spend the night. Period. No one wants to travel to see all their old friends just to have half a bloody mary, then travel home 3 hours later because they need to be home before work on Monday.
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People want to drink all day and spend the night. Period. No one wants to travel to see all their old friends just to have half a bloody mary, then travel home 3 hours later because they need to be home before work on Monday.
And therein lies a problem brother. NMD is not a 'drunk fest' in the eyes of many. And you can drink to your hearts content all day Saturday. So maybe you'll actually remember the game this way.
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And therein lies a problem brother. NMD is not a 'drunk fest' in the eyes of many. And you can drink to your hearts content all day Saturday. So maybe you'll actually remember the game this way.
Go home, old man.
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Seriously why? Why is Sunday such an non starter? And don't just say because. Actual reasons why it is such an inferior choice. I'll listen.
If you're scheduling a giant party/get together where a lot of people are traveling multiple hours, would you pick Saturday or Sunday? I'll hang up and listen.
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Go home, old man.
He's got some clouds to yell at first.
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And therein lies a problem brother. NMD is not a 'drunk fest' in the eyes of many. And you can drink to your hearts content all day Saturday. So maybe you'll actually remember the game this way.
He didn't say "drunk fest." But clearly part of the electricity of the day are people getting together on their own to celebrate.
11:00 AM on a Sunday is a terrible time. People are going to treat it no different than any other day. 2/1 would have been a much better choice.
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This will be the first National Marquette day I’ve missed since 2006. What a terrible idea.
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It's fine. No one was going to get amped up for DePaul and the atmosphere will already be electric for Seton Hall on Senior Day. There were two bad choices and they picked the one that wouldn't require people to fly home during the Super Bowl. If your only concern is being able to get blitzed for the game, I'm guessing you're in a position where you will probably get blitzed for every game regardless, so what difference does it really make? This opens up some possibilities for a fun brunch and basketball theme.
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All you old sweater vests complaining about student noise and lack of enthusiasm - Just you WAIT for this 11:00AM sunday game on what is supposed to be the rowdiest day of the year.
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Favorite day of the year ruined.
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It's fine. No one was going to get amped up for DePaul and the atmosphere will already be electric for Seton Hall on Senior Day. There were two bad choices and they picked the one that wouldn't require people to fly home during the Super Bowl. If your only concern is being able to get blitzed for the game, I'm guessing you're in a position where you will probably get blitzed for every game regardless, so what difference does it really make? This opens up some possibilities for a fun brunch and basketball theme.
Easily said for someone who lives in Milwaukee
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Favorite day of the year ruined.
100% agreed
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If you're scheduling a giant party/get together where a lot of people are traveling multiple hours, would you pick Saturday or Sunday? I'll hang up and listen.
I would pick Saturday in a vacuum. But that's not the case here. Many, many people would avoid NMD on Superbowl weekend. Some travel to Vegas. Some have neighborhood watch parties. Some might actually go to the game. And frankly it isn't impossible that either the Bears or Packers might be in it. If that were the case, little old NMD would get totally lost in the mix. Like totally. The university chose not to risk that. On top of that, I think you can feel confident that MU/Butler will be a signature TV event for the weekend.
The university made a decision out of two sub-optimal options. To claim that one is a fantastic choice while the other is horrendous misses too many of the factors in play.
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It's fine. No one was going to get amped up for DePaul and the atmosphere will already be electric for Seton Hall on Senior Day. There were two bad choices and they picked the one that wouldn't require people to fly home during the Super Bowl. If your only concern is being able to get blitzed for the game, I'm guessing you're in a position where you will probably get blitzed for every game regardless, so what difference does it really make? This opens up some possibilities for a fun brunch and basketball theme.
The Super Bowl kicks off at around 5:30. Nearly everyone who REALLY wanted to be home would be home by kickoff.
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I would pick Saturday in a vacuum. But that's not the case. Many, many people would avoid NMD on Superbowl weekend. Some travel to Vegas. Some have neighborhood watch parties. Some might actually go to the game. And frankly it isn't impossible that either the Bears or Packers might be in it. If that were the case, little old NMD would get totally lost in the mix. Like totally. The university chose not to risk that. On top of that, I think you can feel confident that MU/Butler will be a signature TV event for the weekend.
The university made a decision out of two sub-optimal options. To claim that one is a fantastic choice while the other is horrendous misses too many of the factors in play.
I refuse to believe the majority of the people that care about Marquette/mubb wouldn't go due to the Superbowl on Sunday.
So instead of a small chance that it gets ruined due to local teams making the Superbowl, we're just going to 100% ruin it by scheduling it at 11am Sunday.
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And therein lies a problem brother. NMD is not a 'drunk fest' in the eyes of many. And you can drink to your hearts content all day Saturday. So maybe you'll actually remember the game this way.
it's not really about the drunk fest.... it's like homecoming for Marquette alums. There will be fewer out of town travelers coming to the game without a doubt.
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How would a Saturday game be affected by the super bowl barring the Packers, Bears or Vikings making it?
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Simply put, there is no overlap or conflict with the Superbowl. That's a ridiculous line of thinking. We're talking a Saturday basketball game and a Sunday late afternoon football game.
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The point is not to compare a blanket Saturday versus Sunday. It's the Saturday of Super Bowl Weekend, when I'm sure many people would prefer not to travel and when, for better or worse, our entire culture revolves around one signature event, and a game against DePaul, which always elicits a collective "ugh" from the Marquette community, versus a Sunday that won't have the same travel issues, won't have a signature event that basically makes the day a de facto national holiday, and is against a presumably better opponent.
Is it the best case scenario? No. That would be if the Providence game on February 22nd were at home, or if we started a home-and-home with Notre Dame on February 15, but neither of those are the world we live in. You take the best option from what we have. I just don't see any scenario, barring one 5-10 years in the future if they become relevant again, that DePaul on Super Bowl weekend would be the best choice for NMD.
This is probably the only way to guarantee high attendance and a raucous atmosphere for an 11 am Sunday game. That's a good thing, not a bad one.
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The point is not to compare a blanket Saturday versus Sunday. It's the Saturday of Super Bowl Weekend, when I'm sure many people would prefer not to travel and when, for better or worse, our entire culture revolves around one signature event, and a game against DePaul, which always elicits a collective "ugh" from the Marquette community, versus a Sunday that won't have the same travel issues, won't have a signature event that basically makes the day a de facto national holiday, and is against a presumably better opponent.
Is it the best case scenario? No. That would be if the Providence game on February 22nd were at home, or if we started a home-and-home with Notre Dame on February 15, but neither of those are the world we live in. You take the best option from what we have. I just don't see any scenario, barring one 5-10 years in the future if they become relevant again, that DePaul on Super Bowl weekend would be the best choice for NMD.
This is probably the only way to guarantee high attendance and a raucous atmosphere for an 11 am Sunday game. That's a good thing, not a bad one.
1. It doesn't matter who the game is against on NMD. Sorry this is a lame excuse.
2. The game is at Superbowl is at 530PM Sunday. You can be wherever you need to be. Plus, who the hell even travels for Superbowl Weekend unless you're going to the Superbowl?
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it's not really about the drunk fest.... it's like homecoming for Marquette alums. There will be fewer out of town travelers coming to the game without a doubt.
I think Marquette is disagreeing. Part of this might be the signature TV event of the weekend. Part of this might be the watch parties around the country that might do better if there isn't a second competing party the next day.
And Hound, there is absolutely overlap for folks that travel using my 'neighborhood Superbowl party' example.
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I think Marquette is disagreeing. Part of this might be the signature TV event of the weekend. Part of this might be the watch parties around the country that might do better if there isn't a second competing party the next day.
And Hound, there is absolutely overlap for folks that travel using my 'neighborhood Superbowl party' example.
Fine, people can't make it due to the Superbowl (even though I don't believe this).
What's more likely, people miss due to the Superbowl or the fact that NMD is on a Sunday. I lean the latter.
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1. It doesn't matter who the game is against on NMD. Sorry this is a lame excuse.
2. The game is at Superbowl is at 530PM Sunday. You can be wherever you need to be. Plus, who the hell even travels for Superbowl Weekend unless you're going to the Superbowl?
I actually travel for the Superbowl fairly frequently. Say every 1 out of 3 years. I do agree that opponent doesn't matter for NMD.
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I, for one, don't much care about NMD, all I care about is them winning the game. Period.
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I, for one, don't much care about NMD, all I care about is them winning the game. Period.
Thanks for this much needed, very relevant information.
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Fine, people can't make it due to the Superbowl (even though I don't believe this).
What's more likely, people miss due to the Superbowl or the fact that NMD is on a Sunday. I lean the latter.
Fair enough. But the fact that it's a LEAN means that it's reasonable to believe the university sees it differently and that their view has a valid argument. Anyways, have a great day. Hope to see you at NMD!
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Fair enough. But the fact that it's a LEAN means that it's reasonable to believe the university sees it differently and that their view has a valid argument. Anyways, have a great day. Hope to see you at NMD!
"Leaning" towards not renewing my tickets actually, so we'll see.
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I refuse to believe the majority of the people that care about Marquette/mubb wouldn't go due to the Superbowl on Sunday.
So instead of a small chance that it gets ruined due to local teams making the Superbowl, we're just going to 100% ruin it by scheduling it at 11am Sunday.
But what about the neighborhood watch parties???
This is a joke
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The point is not to compare a blanket Saturday versus Sunday. It's the Saturday of Super Bowl Weekend, when I'm sure many people would prefer not to travel and when, for better or worse, our entire culture revolves around one signature event, and a game against DePaul, which always elicits a collective "ugh" from the Marquette community, versus a Sunday that won't have the same travel issues, won't have a signature event that basically makes the day a de facto national holiday, and is against a presumably better opponent.
Is it the best case scenario? No. That would be if the Providence game on February 22nd were at home, or if we started a home-and-home with Notre Dame on February 15, but neither of those are the world we live in. You take the best option from what we have. I just don't see any scenario, barring one 5-10 years in the future if they become relevant again, that DePaul on Super Bowl weekend would be the best choice for NMD.
This is probably the only way to guarantee high attendance and a raucous atmosphere for an 11 am Sunday game. That's a good thing, not a bad one.
That's a really good point. Saturday is now totally open to full day festivities (like the fireworks at night that many people have a lot of trouble getting to in time on Friday) AND guarantees a sellout on Sunday in front of a national TV audience.
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NMD is like homecoming for out of towners, as someone else mentioned.
We usually stay over. Hit the bars postgame, get dinner with friends and hit up old hangouts. See people that we might only see once a year.
Sucks that the schedule doesnt work this year, but still wont make a lot of people happy.
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"Leaning" towards not renewing my tickets actually, so we'll see.
Well, seeing as the deposit was due months ago and the first two payments were due at the end of July and August, I'm guessing that's a ship that has already sailed.
1. It doesn't matter who the game is against on NMD. Sorry this is a lame excuse.
2. The game is at Superbowl is at 530PM Sunday. You can be wherever you need to be. Plus, who the hell even travels for Superbowl Weekend unless you're going to the Superbowl?
1. Seeing as the past 6 NMD opponents have all been NCAA teams, 3x Villanova, 2x Xavier, and Providence, I'd say Marquette does.
2. Uhh...exactly. No one wants to travel unless they're going to the game. Thanks for reinforcing that point.
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Well, seeing as the deposit was due months ago and the first two payments were due at the end of July and August, I'm guessing that's a ship that has already sailed.
1. Seeing as the past 6 NMD opponents have all been NCAA teams, 3x Villanova, 2x Xavier, and Providence, I'd say Marquette does.
2. Uhh...exactly. No one wants to travel unless they're going to the game. Thanks for reinforcing that point.
1. Then why am I still getting an email ever couple weeks asking if I'm interested?
2. Big bad nationally ranked powerhouses Xavier and Providence.
3. The crossover between people going to the Superbowl and NMD is minimal and not enough to make an actual consideration.
If you're that worried about the goddamn Superbowl, put this on Senior day then like we did in 12/13
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Wolfgang, we get that you're upset. But let's think about your Senior Day idea. That's already guaranteed to be 100% sold out, especially with M2N graduating. So again, I think many of us are simply asking you to be open minded. We get that you don't like the decision. But MU had relatively poor alternatives this year.
Brew, you're a MU hoops history buff. Has NMD ever been on Superbowl Saturday before? If so, I wonder if they have stats that suggest 'never again'.
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Wolfgang, we get that you're upset. But let's think about your Senior Day idea. That's already guaranteed to be 100% sold out. So again, I think many of us are simply asking you to be open minded. We get that you don't like the decision. But MU had relatively poor alternatives this year.
Brew, you're a MU hoops history buff. Has NMD ever been on Superbowl Saturday before? If so, I wonder if they have stats that suggest 'never again'.
I see your guys' side, I just vehemently disagree with it.
National Marquette Day is supposed to be about the Marquette community getting together. It being on a Saturday is the best day for the Marquette community to get together. That's indisputable.
Edit: we just had NMD day before the Superbowl in 2018...
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Honest question from a Milwaukee area resident that really doesn't care when NMD is. If you're an "out of towner" that was planning on going to the game, meeting up with old friends, etc. can't you just agree to do that for the DePaul game anyways? Sure there are food and drink specials going on around the city on NMD, but it's not like we transform into a dry county as soon as NMD is over. Just do everything you normally do on unofficial National Marquette Day instead of the official one.
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I see your guys' side, I just vehemently disagree with it.
National Marquette Day is supposed to be about the Marquette community getting together. It being on a Saturday is the best day for the Marquette community to get together. That's indisputable.
No one disagrees with that. No doubt the switch to Sunday is a sacrifice. The only question is how big.
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No one disagrees with that. No doubt the switch to Sunday is a sacrifice. The only question is how big.
We had it the Saturday before the Superbowl in 2018 with a crowd of 18,958. I think it did okay.
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Wasn’t National Marquette day on super bowl Sunday two years ago when the super bowl was in Minnesota of all places. And the Vikings should’ve been in the game for crying out loud.
They could have easily scheduled it for DePaul
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Wasn’t National Marquette day on super bowl Sunday two years ago when the super bowl was in Minnesota of all places. And the Vikings should’ve been in the game for crying out loud.
They could have easily scheduled it for DePaul
Yup, 2018 100%
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Honest question from a Milwaukee area resident that really doesn't care when NMD is. If you're an "out of towner" that was planning on going to the game, meeting up with old friends, etc. can't you just agree to do that for the DePaul game anyways? Sure there are food and drink specials going on around the city on NMD, but it's not like we transform into a dry county as soon as NMD is over. Just do everything you normally do on unofficial National Marquette Day instead of the official one.
I think there’s more university sponsored activities. Typically the young alumni or business school alums rent out a bar. I feel like that is tougher to do on a random game day. I also think the crowds for those will be pretty sparse this year.
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Honest question from a Milwaukee area resident that really doesn't care when NMD is. If you're an "out of towner" that was planning on going to the game, meeting up with old friends, etc. can't you just agree to do that for the DePaul game anyways? Sure there are food and drink specials going on around the city on NMD, but it's not like we transform into a dry county as soon as NMD is over. Just do everything you normally do on unofficial National Marquette Day instead of the official one.
That’s my plan. I’m going to go to DePaul and Seton Hall. There’s no denying that there’s more buzz around the city and stadium during NMD though
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Wolfgang, we get that you're upset. But let's think about your Senior Day idea. That's already guaranteed to be 100% sold out, especially with M2N graduating. So again, I think many of us are simply asking you to be open minded. We get that you don't like the decision. But MU had relatively poor alternatives this year.
Brew, you're a MU hoops history buff. Has NMD ever been on Superbowl Saturday before? If so, I wonder if they have stats that suggest 'never again'.
Having it the same day as Seton Hall would be a waste. If you want two sold-out events, NMD has to be different than Senior Day. That's likely the reason they haven't combined them in Wojo's tenure.
It was on a Super Bowl Saturday 2 years ago against Providence. It wouldn't surprise me if there were complaints about that. I think people are missing the point of the Super Bowl. The whole "you can be home by 5:30" thing is a pretty hollow argument. The Super Bowl isn't a 4-hour televised affair, it's an all-day bacchanalia of football. Parties are starting by noon. And as much as we might like to think the Marquette community is wholly football agnostic, that's simply not true. All the evidence I need is my Twitter timeline, which is now chock full of college football and NFL discussion, despite the fact that I put absolutely zero effort into following either. That's simply what all the CBB people are talking about right now.
I see your guys' side, I just vehemently disagree with it.
National Marquette Day is supposed to be about the Marquette community getting together. It being on a Saturday is the best day for the Marquette community to get together. That's indisputable.
Edit: we just had NMD day before the Superbowl in 2018...
It's not ideal. I agree with that. Just like DePaul isn't ideal and Senior Day isn't ideal. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there were complaints about the 2018 one, though there were no other home weekends in February. Would a Saturday with a quality opponent be ideal? Yes. But that doesn't exist. So you put the majority of the celebrations throughout the day on Saturday, push a "brunch and buckets" theme on Sunday morning, get everyone out the door and headed home by 2:00 pm so they can be up for work on Monday.
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My point: would anyone really have been actually upset if NMD was scheduled on 2/1? Would this post have even been made? Would people actually consider writing letters/phone calls to voice their displeasure? We'd just be excited we knew what day it was.
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Having it the same day as Seton Hall would be a waste. If you want two sold-out events, NMD has to be different than Senior Day. That's likely the reason they haven't combined them in Wojo's tenure.
It was on a Super Bowl Saturday 2 years ago against Providence. It wouldn't surprise me if there were complaints about that. I think people are missing the point of the Super Bowl. The whole "you can be home by 5:30" thing is a pretty hollow argument. The Super Bowl isn't a 4-hour televised affair, it's an all-day bacchanalia of football. Parties are starting by noon. And as much as we might like to think the Marquette community is wholly football agnostic, that's simply not true. All the evidence I need is my Twitter timeline, which is now chock full of college football and NFL discussion, despite the fact that I put absolutely zero effort into following either. That's simply what all the CBB people are talking about right now.
It's not ideal. I agree with that. Just like DePaul isn't ideal and Senior Day isn't ideal. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there were complaints about the 2018 one, though there were no other home weekends in February. Would a Saturday with a quality opponent be ideal? Yes. But that doesn't exist. So you put the majority of the celebrations throughout the day on Saturday, push a "brunch and buckets" theme on Sunday morning, get everyone out the door and headed home by 2:00 pm so they can be up for work on Monday.
So now we're treating NMD like a prop to sell out games? It's supposed to be for the Alumni who have donated how much money towards the school? You're putting the Superbowl above NMD which is just wrong and I'm sure most people who actually care about NMD won't agree with.
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We had it the Saturday before the Superbowl in 2018 with a crowd of 18,958. I think it did okay.
Crowd size is one factor. NMD will always be a sellout. I wonder if they had trouble with the watch parties, or TV ratings, etc. You may not want to hear about it but it is a uuuuuggggee fundraising day. And that's a big bottom line.
Next time I'm in a position to ask about the decision, I will. And I'll PM you anything I find out. Hang in there Wolfgang. And buy those tickets....... :)
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My point: would anyone really have been actually upset if NMD was scheduled on 2/1? Would this post have even been made? Would people actually consider writing letters/phone calls to voice their displeasure? We'd just be excited we knew what day it was.
I wouldn't have been upset about either, but I can see why people would be upset that it was on Super Bowl weekend (just like I can see why they would be upset it's on a Sunday). There was no good option.
You made the post, so I suppose, uhh...no?
I'm sure some would. Just like some will express displeasure with this. Again, no good option.
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Agree to disagree. Such a shame.
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So it was Superbowl weekend in '18 and that was the ONLY weekend home game that February? Wow, that was a crappy schedule. No other option. NMD will NEVER be in January/March unless it like the 31st or the 1st.
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The good news Wolfgang is that you've doubled your post total! ;D Stick around. You seem like a good guy.
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NMD is like homecoming for out of towners, as someone else mentioned.
We usually stay over. Hit the bars postgame, get dinner with friends and hit up old hangouts. See people that we might only see once a year.
Sucks that the schedule doesnt work this year, but still wont make a lot of people happy.
So do that on Saturday. Go out for dinner, hit the bars, whatever. Stay in a hotel. Get up and go to the MU game on Sunday. It's not like it's at 8am and everyone will still be hungover.
How hard is this, people?
PS: Funny how not one fan of a Catholic school basketball team is upset because 11am Sunday means missing church.
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My point: would anyone really have been actually upset if NMD was scheduled on 2/1? Would this post have even been made? Would people actually consider writing letters/phone calls to voice their displeasure? We'd just be excited we knew what day it was.
You must be new to the internet. The answer to your question is yes.
So now we're treating NMD like a prop to sell out games? It's supposed to be for the Alumni who have donated how much money towards the school? You're putting the Superbowl above NMD which is just wrong and I'm sure most people who actually care about NMD won't agree with.
Once again, do all of your NMD stuff the week before. You seem so passionate about this that you could probably even organize it. It's not real hard to reserve a bar in Milwaukee with 6 months notice, and if enough people feel the way you do, I'm sure the turnout will be fine, and might even help get a better crowd for the dePaul game.
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So do that on Saturday. Go out for dinner, hit the bars, whatever. Stay in a hotel. Get up and go to the MU game on Sunday. It's not like it's at 8am and everyone will still be hungover.
How hard is this, people?
It's not the same. At all.
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The good news Wolfgang is that you've doubled your post total! ;D Stick around. You seem like a good guy.
This is how upset I am. Literally, ruined all my friends & my Tuesday.
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Agree to disagree. Such a shame.
I mean I ask this in all sincerity...if getting together and partying and seeing old buddies, is your main focus, what would be so bad about doing that on Saturday/Saturday night and then focusing on the game on Sunday?? Seems like a reasonable solution to me, right??
I honestly don't know how people drink during games, or even more so watch them with buddies, and especially a big group. There is ZERO chance in that scenario you can hear it decently, with all the talking etc going on, and you're paying attention to friends etc and not really focusing on the game. To each their own I know.
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So it was Superbowl weekend in '18 and that was the ONLY weekend home game that February? Wow, that was a crappy schedule. No other option. NMD will NEVER be in January/March unless it like the 31st or the 1st.
What’s the reason for that? I know options are limited with students on break and few games in March. Is there a reason outside of that?
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I mean I ask this in all sincerity...if getting together and partying and seeing old buddies, is your main focus, what would be so bad about doing that on Saturday/Saturday night and then focusing on the game on Sunday?? Seems like a reasonable solution to me, right??
I honestly don't know how people drink during games, or even more so watch them with buddies, and especially a big group. There is ZERO chance in that scenario you can hear it decently, with all the talking etc going on, and you're paying attention to friends etc and not really focusing on the game. To each their own I know.
Because the day revolves around the game, you get together before the game, then go out after the game. It's like having a Superbowl party on Saturday.
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There is a lot of half glass empty outlook going on here.
Think of it this way. If you're from out of town, you now have an excuse to extend NMD festivities/weekend into a THIRD night! Come into town Friday and book a hotel through Sunday night.
It'll be the most epic NMD weekend ever!!! Times a zillion!
Seriously though, life isn't always fair. All you can do is control how you react to it.
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So do that on Saturday. Go out for dinner, hit the bars, whatever. Stay in a hotel. Get up and go to the MU game on Sunday. It's not like it's at 8am and everyone will still be hungover.
How hard is this, people?
PS: Funny how not one fan of a Catholic school basketball team is upset because 11am Sunday means missing church.
People have their kids's activities, grandparents watching the kids, trips to Home Depot, etc. 11 am sunday game means getting back to madison by 4. And that's just to Madison. A lot of people drive in from further away.
You can go to church on saturday night, y'know.
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What’s the reason for that? I know options are limited with students on break and few games in March. Is there a reason outside of that?
March is a pretty easy one. It starts to run into midterms and is too close to when the university wants STHs to travel to NYC or the NCAA. I think the January view is that folks have just potentially traveled for the holidays and the students are just back. January is a notorious bad travel month when people are paying their Christmas VISA. February is actually perfect for TV eyeballs too following football playoffs. Hoops never wants to compete with football. Oops, back to the original topic! :o
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There is a lot of half glass empty outlook going on here.
Think of it this way. If you're from out of town, you now have an excuse to extend NMD festivities/weekend into a THIRD night! Come into town Friday and book a hotel through Sunday night.
It'll be the most epic NMD weekend ever!!! Times a zillion!
Seriously though, life isn't always fair. All you can do is control how you react to it.
I think the 11a start is key. MU wouldn't do this if folks couldn't get to the airport for a late afternoon/evening flight home. Like you, I think this may work out pretty well.
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Seriously though, life isn't always fair. All you can do is control how you react to it.
All of us understand life isn't fair, but this is like getting Christmas canceled for a lot of people. Christmas cancelled for unknown reasons.
You guys who don't care what day the game is don't understand.
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There is a lot of half glass empty outlook going on here.
Think of it this way. If you're from out of town, you now have an excuse to extend NMD festivities/weekend into a THIRD night! Come into town Friday and book a hotel through Sunday night.
It'll be the most epic NMD weekend ever!!! Times a zillion!
Seriously though, life isn't always fair. All you can do is control how you react to it.
So you're saying we don't have a choice in how we feel but only how we react to it? I invite you to debate that on the waste of time thread.
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For me NMD is more than just drinking with buddies I love running into people I don't see anymore and catching up. Then overall Marquette atmosphere around the city is fantastic. That's why i don't think the suggestion of do it on the Depaul game with your buddies is a great suggestion.
I also think that the attitude of "it'll be more epic because all the partying on Saturday" is wrong because you won't actually know who the hell is marquette affiliated which takes away the MU centric atmosphere around the city and you'd just end up with a bunch of silent hungover people on Sunday which won't lend itself to a raucous environment.
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All of us understand life isn't fair, but this is like getting Christmas canceled for a lot of people. Christmas cancelled for unknown reasons.
You guys who don't care what day the game is don't understand.
Because NMD is the only holiday of the year? Look, we get it, you're upset. But multiple posters have offered multiple solutions to your problem and you don't seem to want to listen.
In reality, it's like Christmas being moved to December 26th. It wont be the same, but acting like it's totally ruined is a step too far.
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But that's not the case here. Many, many people would avoid NMD on Superbowl weekend.
FFS, come on.
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Because NMD is the only holiday of the year? Look, we get it, you're upset. But multiple posters have offered multiple solutions to your problem and you don't seem to want to listen.
In reality, it's like Christmas being moved to December 26th. It wont be the same, but acting like it's totally ruined is a step too far.
NMD is the only NMD of the year, yes.
Solutions? Those are ideas, not solutions. Solutions solve the problem which is that the game is on a Sunday for god knows what reason. People are grasping at straws trying to defend Sunday. Who the hell likes anything on a Sunday?
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So you're saying we don't have a choice in how we feel but only how we react to it? I invite you to debate that on the waste of time thread.
No, actually I implied you can't really control how you feel but you can decide to make the most of it. I'm sure the school wasn't happy with their options either, but it is what it is.
You can either take your ball and go home and not attend... or you can make it the most epic weekend of NMD'ing that anyone has ever NMD'd before!
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For me NMD is more than just drinking with buddies I love running into people I don't see anymore and catching up. Then overall Marquette atmosphere around the city is fantastic. That's why i don't think the suggestion of do it on the Depaul game with your buddies is a great suggestion.
I also think that the attitude of "it'll be more epic because all the partying on Saturday" is wrong because you won't actually know who the hell is marquette affiliated which takes away the MU centric atmosphere around the city and you'd just end up with a bunch of silent hungover people on Sunday which won't lend itself to a raucous environment.
I didn't mean to imply that that the DePaul weekend would be "just as good", but if your main beef with the scheduling is that it's on a Sunday morning and you won't be able to meet up with friends then it solves a lot of your problem. Being able to find alternatives that can come close to replicating the real experience when you can't have the real thing (for whatever reason), is a large step in dealing with adversity.
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Being able to find alternatives that can come close to replicating the real experience when you can't have the real thing (for whatever reason), is a large step in dealing with adversity.
I don't need to be lectured on life on the mubb message board.
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No, actually I implied you can't really control how you feel but you can decide to make the most of it. I'm sure the school wasn't happy with their options either, but it is what it is.
You can either take your ball and go home and not attend... or you can make it the most epic weekend of NMD'ing that anyone has ever NMD'd before!
I was just making a joke about how ridiculous that other thread has become.
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NMD is the only NMD of the year, yes.
Solutions? Those are ideas, not solutions. Solutions solve the problem which is that the game is on a Sunday for god knows what reason. People are grasping at straws trying to defend Sunday. Who the hell likes anything on a Sunday?
Okay fine, be miserable, cancel your tickets and your fandom. Seriously, people here are trying to help you deal with the loss of not having NMD on a Saturday, and you're kinda acting like a 5 year old. Grow up.
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I don't need to be lectured on life on the mubb message board.
Then stop crying
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Then stop crying
I'm voicing my displeasure and many people agree with me. Just because this doesn't affect you, doesn't mean it doesn't affect other people.
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Because NMD is the only holiday of the year? Look, we get it, you're upset. But multiple posters have offered multiple solutions to your problem and you don't seem to want to listen.
In reality, it's like Christmas being moved to December 26th. It wont be the same, but acting like it's totally ruined is a step too far.
This is a great example. We had to move the day we celebrated Christmas with our extended family because of a conflict with traveling. My sister was so angry she decided to not show up with her kids and husband. Christmas was "ruined" because we always celebrated together after church on Christmas eve and it just wouldn't be the same. We had a lovely time without them, wished they were there, and although she never admitted it I'm pretty sure she regretted the decision.
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I'm voicing my displeasure and many people agree with me. Just because this doesn't affect you, doesn't mean it doesn't affect other people.
Have a cream soda
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Have a cream soda
Nah, it's bikini season.
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There's another reason for this: television. Marquette/DePaul will be on Fox Sports regional networks. It could be hard to find, especially with all the worldwide viewing parties.
The Butler game is the only Big East game that day and will be on FS1, which is far more widely carried. While the biggest celebrations will be local, having the ability to reach Marquette fans outside the Midwest likely factored in as well.
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This is a great example. We had to move the day we celebrated Christmas with our extended family because of a conflict with traveling. My sister was so angry she decided to not show up with her kids and husband. Christmas was "ruined" because we always celebrated together after church on Christmas eve and it just wouldn't be the same. We had a lovely time without them, wished they were there, and although she never admitted it I'm pretty sure she regretted the decision.
That's really a sad story UWW. Hopefully that's all patched up because life is too short. Our family deals with stuff like that every year because our daughter is a nurse. Hospitals don't close you know.
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I'm voicing my displeasure and many people agree with me. Just because this doesn't affect you, doesn't mean it doesn't affect other people.
And that's exactly why I was trying to help come up with alternative's so that you could still enjoy something that is clearly very important to you. I could have just glanced at your posts and written it off as another angry person on the internet, but instead I'm trying to help. The way the schedule worked out this year nothing will replicate the real deal, I get it, but what would come as close as possible to giving you as good of a weekend experience as possible? Lets find the silver lining.
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There's another reason for this: television. Marquette/DePaul will be on Fox Sports regional networks. It could be hard to find, especially with all the worldwide viewing parties.
The Butler game is the only Big East game that day and will be on FS1, which is far more widely carried. While the biggest celebrations will be local, having the ability to reach Marquette fans outside the Midwest likely factored in as well.
Didn't think to look at the TV sitch, but I'm guessing this is the main reason.
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And that's exactly why I was trying to help come up with alternative's so that you could still enjoy something that is clearly very important to you. I could have just glanced at your posts and written it off as another angry person on the internet, but instead I'm trying to help. The way the schedule worked out this year nothing will replicate the real deal, I get it, but what would come as close as possible to giving you as good of a weekend experience as possible? Lets find the silver lining.
If it was just my friends it'd be easy, it's the thousands of other people that come for that week. The city is Marquette that day. Nothing can replicate that.
Also I agree it's probably the TV situation. Don't really care though.
Thanks for helping me kill a couple hours at work. Toodles
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There's another reason for this: television. Marquette/DePaul will be on Fox Sports regional networks. It could be hard to find, especially with all the worldwide viewing parties.
The Butler game is the only Big East game that day and will be on FS1, which is far more widely carried. While the biggest celebrations will be local, having the ability to reach Marquette fans outside the Midwest likely factored in as well.
Ding, ding, ding. For those of you that play Sheepshead, Queen of Clubs right there. 100% TOTAL non-starter. Good work Brew.
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There's another reason for this: television. Marquette/DePaul will be on Fox Sports regional networks. It could be hard to find, especially with all the worldwide viewing parties.
The Butler game is the only Big East game that day and will be on FS1, which is far more widely carried. While the biggest celebrations will be local, having the ability to reach Marquette fans outside the Midwest likely factored in as well.
I can see this being 100x’s more likely the reason than the Super Bowl. Thanks for the info.
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If it was just my friends it'd be easy, it's the thousands of other people that come for that week. The city is Marquette that day. Nothing can replicate that.
Also I agree it's probably the TV situation. Don't really care though.
Thanks for helping me kill a couple hours at work. Toodles
I'll ask again.
nothing will replicate the real deal, I get it, but what would come as close as possible to giving you as good of a weekend experience as possible? Lets find the silver lining.
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BOO ALL SUNDAY GAMES!!!
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Hopefully Brew's new info helps Wolfgang. ;D
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They were caught between a rock and a hard place. 11a Sunday. Plenty of time to catch a flight home. It was either that or Superbowl weekend. Pick your poison. Frankly I think it was a reasonable answer.
“National” Marquette Day is the key reason this is bad. Half the country can’t find an open bar to get alumni groups together as no bars are even open. Watching this game at Denny’s is a non-starter.
Then there is church for those who still attend.
That said, not much other choice due to schedules.
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There should only be a National Marquette Day if they win a national championship anyway
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DePaul is a local TV game. While, Butler is on National TV. The difference between those two dates.
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DePaul is a local TV game. While, Butler is on National TV.
He was asking about January/March. :)
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If NMD is such a big deal, something you look forward to all year, take Monday off. If you aren't willing to do that, maybe it wasn't such a big deal after all....
Way too much whining here.
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Never mind that most bars aren't open for watch parties at 11am on a Sunday in the first place, but if its due to TV, then they should combine National Marquette Day and senior day against Seton Hall on 2/29. If its not a TV issue, then it should be on 2/1 against DePaul.
I understand the options weren't great, but this was a dumb decision.
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NMD was on 2/3/18. I don't remember that being a big issue, except of course I was held up in airport security behind a Pats fan running his tri-cornered hat through the x-ray machine.
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Never mind that most bars aren't open for watch parties at 11am on a Sunday in the first place...
As a born and bred Wisconsinite, I don't understand this statement. Can you translate?
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As a born and bred Wisconsinite, I don't understand this statement. Can you translate?
;D They'll get 'em open on the west coast for a private party. Happens all the time.
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Any one remember the 10AM January 1 game versus West Virginia? That was hell warmed over.
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Any one remember the 10AM January 1 game versus West Virginia? That was hell warmed over.
Sure do. We were staying the night before in the Hilton. West Virginia, The Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals were all in the hotel! I think our kids were pre-college so I believe we all dined at 5 o'clock Steakhouse for NYE. Was there only one early New Year's game?
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Sure do. We were staying the night before in the Hilton. West Virginia, The Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals were all in the hotel! I think our kids were pre-college so I believe we all dined at 5 o'clock Steakhouse for NYE. Was there only one early New Year's game?
They played Nova on NYD in 2009 at the BC. I want to say that was an early start, too, but am not 100% certain
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Any one remember the 10AM January 1 game versus West Virginia? That was hell warmed over.
I love that day!! I was in the BC at 9am.
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Does it really matter what "Day" it is
just do your party on a different one.
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#BrunchAndBuckets
Get hammered with friends Saturday, chase your blues away with a Bloody Mary and basketball game Sunday morning.
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Any one remember the 10AM January 1 game versus West Virginia? That was hell warmed over.
Yeah, the streets were empty driving to the game. ;)
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Sure do. We were staying the night before in the Hilton. West Virginia, The Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals were all in the hotel! I think our kids were pre-college so I believe we all dined at 5 o'clock Steakhouse for NYE. Was there only one early New Year's game?
I seem to remember a Nova NYD game and I think that was more palatable as it started at 11? For the WV game we went to brunch at Bar Louie and the manager was so hung over that he didn’t make it in. But he had the codes to the computer system, and no one else did. That screwed up the ordering and payments. The sidewalks were, let’s just say, newly decorated. I remember not going out the night before.
And that was infinitely worse than this will be. It’s not ideal for viewing parties in Denver or the West Coast.
One idea for people who want Saturday (and I agree with your sentiment), is to do a pop up NMD for the DePaul game. If you go with a big group normally, this can be a lot of fun. We do this with break games. One problem I have with NMD games is that it is a chore trying to track people down and visit.
Also, if from Chicago, the Ammie Marquette Express is fun (and usually packed with alums) for weekend games. Drink on the train both ways.
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Because the day revolves around the game, you get together before the game, then go out after the game. It's like having a Superbowl party on Saturday.
Ding ding ding ding
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You guys might be right. Nova in '09 fits. I think I remember chick and I heading down to the bar. The kids woulda been in HS and probably played video games for awhile upstairs. I don't recall if we all watched NYC on TV but I bet we did.
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#BrunchAndBuckets
Get hammered with friends Saturday, chase your blues away with a Bloody Mary and basketball game Sunday morning.
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It would be kind of cool if they did a NMD mass at 8 AM that day.
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Villanova on NYD was in 2009. It was after the Outback Bowl on ESPN at 1:30PM.
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Lovell played the ultimate chip in getting his on campus arena built...
He moved NMD to a Sunday.
We can't change the Billionaires making us priority #472 but we can build an on campus arena where we're #1 and NMD is always Saturday afternoon.
Build it Mike,
Build it Mike,
Build it Mike,
Build it Mike,
Build it Mike!
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Come into town Saturday. Meet up with friends. Close bars. Get up, go to game. Just like when you were in school.
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Come into town Saturday. Meet up with friends. Close bars. Get up, go to game. Just like when you were in school.
I can sleep in till noon and skip class/work the next day without a care in the world?
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And therein lies a problem brother. NMD is not a 'drunk fest' in the eyes of many. And you can drink to your hearts content all day Saturday. So maybe you'll actually remember the game this way.
Somebody is looking for the ban hammer
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It's fine. No one was going to get amped up for DePaul and the atmosphere will already be electric for Seton Hall on Senior Day. There were two bad choices and they picked the one that wouldn't require people to fly home during the Super Bowl. If your only concern is being able to get blitzed for the game, I'm guessing you're in a position where you will probably get blitzed for every game regardless, so what difference does it really make? This opens up some possibilities for a fun brunch and basketball theme.
Move Senior Day to the first NIT home game, duh.
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Gotta say, I did not realize National Marquette Day was that big of a deal for some people.
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I love that day!! I was in the BC at 9am.
After giving up on Bar Louie, I got there around this time too. We ordered a bloody in a Big Gulp cup (not Sobelman’s), and got a stink eye from the largest collection of badly hungover people I have seen in one section as they strolled in. About 10 minutes in, about 50% of the section had asked where we got those. I vaguely remember that the BC did a Bloody Bar at one of the stalls just for this game.
Wasn’t this the “Condensation Game”? Where the Admirals had a game the night before on NYE and they laid the MU floor that morning after storing in a warehouse. Players were slipping and sliding all game, iirc.
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Marquette has actually had National Marquette Day on a Sunday before. 2010 against Providence. At least that was the Sunday before MLK Day so there wasn't any school for students and a lot of alums had work off the next day. Just over 16k showed up for that game which was below the home Big East average which was just shy of 17k.
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Any one remember the 10AM January 1 game versus West Virginia? That was hell warmed over.
Was in LA for that. It was pretty brutal but it turned into an awesome weekend. Hit the bar at 8 AM for the game, saw MU win, went to the Rose Bowl to watch TCU beat Wisconsin and then saw the Packers beat the Bears to clinch a playoff berth the next day.
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Lovell played the ultimate chip in getting his on campus arena built...
He moved NMD to a Sunday.
We can't change the Billionaires making us priority #472 but we can build an on campus arena where we're #1 and NMD is always Saturday afternoon.
Build it Mike,
Build it Mike,
Build it Mike,
Build it Mike,
Build it Mike!
?-( And this fits the national television dilemma or the way BEast scheduled us how? (Or was this teal and I didn't get that?)
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Early voting from the Underboard shows a strong lean towards “Sunday sucks”. Results in Puerto Rico and Oak Park are in. Waiting for West Coast polls to close for final tally.
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Gotta say, I did not realize National Marquette Day was that big of a deal for some people.
This was my initial reaction as I started reading through this thread. I actually am heartened by such passion among our faithful. Wolfgang, who has very few comments, was so moved that he has dominated this thread. Agree or disagree with him, I think it's nice to see that energy for MU hoops.
I have never attended NMD but have gone to our local event the last many years. I even was the event organizer for a few of them, including last year. Always fun, well-attended events.
The Butler game was among the couple I was targeting as one I hope to attend this year. If I do, it will mean I won't be home for NMD with the Charlotte MU gang, but I would be excited to be part of the festivities in person.
Last season, my buddies and I had a great reunion around the Sunday home Providence game. Got in on Saturday afternoon, fested for hours and hours, got up the next day, cheered on a wonderful MU victory, and then those of us who wanted/needed to go home did. A couple of my boyz (and wives) stayed till Monday for a lower-key but still fun night.
I imagine that many of us will do the exact same thing as above this season. If so, we will have a great time. NMD will not have been "ruined" for us.
The Saturday before the Super Bowl would have been fine, as well. I wouldn't have attended but would have enjoyed the game with the Charlotte crowd, and then gotten my second wind for our annual Super Bowl party the next night. But I can understand how Super Bowl weekend wouldn't be ideal for many, too.
Agree with those who say there was no great choice this year. I hope that once the shock (for some) of it being on a Sunday wears off, Scoopers will be celebrating NMD in full force.
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Great attitude 82. The TV thing really makes this a no brainer. Hope you can make it up.
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Come into town Saturday. Meet up with friends. Close bars. Get up, go to game. Just like when you were in school.
Will you be supplying IV's and pedialyte to people prior to the game?
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?-( And this fits the national television dilemma or the way BEast (sic) scheduled us how? (Or was this teal and I didn't get that?)
Teal?
When we were priority #2 we would submit to the Big East + TV partners a half dozen or more Saturdays that were open. Now that the Bucks don't just look to schedule NBA games but also monster trucks, cirque du soleil, concerts and the like, we are way, way, way down on the pecking order. What we submit to the Big East + TV is a much smaller selection of Saturdays (and Sundays).
This is the new reality and one Marquette knew when they engaged Wintrust in a naming rights conversation for the "never ever to be considered" on campus arena.
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Great attitude 82. The TV thing really makes this a no brainer. Hope you can make it up.
It wasn't that long ago we were working with Satellite coordinates...we can't find bars that have the Fox sports package?
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Teal?
When we were priority #2 we would submit to the Big East + TV partners a half dozen or more Saturdays that were open. Now that the Bucks don't just look to schedule NBA games but also monster trucks, cirque du soleil, concerts and the like, we are way, way, way down on the pecking order. What we submit to the Big East + TV is a much smaller selection of Saturdays (and Sundays).
This is the new reality and one Marquette knew when they engaged Wintrust in a naming rights conversation for the "never ever to be considered" on campus arena.
We have six weekend games. Fox drives this more then the Bucks. They need Sunday programming after football. The BE is a featured network on Fox.
And things were worse at the BC. The BE was one of many conferences at ESPN. I don't miss 9PM Big Monday games.
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We have six weekend games. Fox drives this more then the Bucks. They need Sunday programming after football. The BE is a featured network on Fox.
And things were worse at the BC. The BE was one of many conferences at ESPN. I don't miss 9PM Big Monday games.
With all due respect, I don't believe that for a second. You think we ended up on CBS Sports Net at 11am on a Sunday on a weekend with no Bucks game last season because of TV? I think its was bc the Bucks booked Monster Trucks on Friday Night, Saturday Day and Saturday Night.
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With all due respect, I don't believe that for a second. You think we ended up on CBS Sports Net at 11am on a Sunday on a weekend with no Bucks game last season because of TV? I think its was bc the Bucks booked Monster Trucks on Friday Night, Saturday Day and Saturday Night.
I think you're forgetting how many games were on sports 32 only in Wisconsin before. We have more games available now and they're streamable online not blacked out because of ridiculous crappy TV rights.
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I think you're forgetting how many games were on sports 32 only in Wisconsin before. We have more games available now and they're streamable online not blacked out because of ridiculous crappy TV rights.
And only available in Wisconsin to Time Warner subscribers. I remember driving to 3 bars on a snowy night for a Providence road game back in those days before I found a place that had it on because like me, the first two had DirecTV.
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Any one remember the 10AM January 1 game versus West Virginia? That was hell warmed over.
I think we hit O'Lydia's about 7 or 7:30. The manager came in after having gone to Potawatami at 4am and won big and bought everyone a round! Fun times!
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I've been setting these up in Connecticut the last 20 years.
Best time for good attendance - A Saturday afternoon game.
A time for bad attendance - Saturday evening or night. Especially the one year MU decided to pick Valentine's Day for NMD on a Saturday night.
I'm thinking Sunday at Noon may be OK.
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If it was just my friends it'd be easy, it's the thousands of other people that come for that week. The city is Marquette that day. Nothing can replicate that.
If by city you mean campus and the bars surrounding Fiserv, then yes. Outside of those areas, no one cares it's NMD.
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With all due respect, I don't believe that for a second. You think we ended up on CBS Sports Net at 11am on a Sunday on a weekend with no Bucks game last season because of TV? I think its was bc the Bucks booked Monster Trucks on Friday Night, Saturday Day and Saturday Night.
Fox sells those games to CBS under a licensing agreement.
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Yes, I'm aware. Bit I bet FOX would have rather had the #2 preseason team on their own air Saturday rather than passing and giving to CBS Sports.
How is the Fiserv getting such better acts?
One side is facilities; bigger (and indoor) loading bays, state of the art back of house, top of the line rigging etc but also by putting out much better dates. We're not #2 (or even #3) and that matters.
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Will you be supplying IV's and pedialyte to people prior to the game?
Cowboy up.
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Yes, I'm aware. Bit I bet FOX would have rather had the #2 preseason team on their own air Saturday rather than passing and giving to CBS Sports.
How is the Fiserv getting such better acts?
One side is facilities; bigger (and indoor) loading bays, state of the art back of house, top of the line rigging etc but also by putting out much better dates. We're not #2 (or even #3) and that matters.
As an aside, CBS will get at least 20 games, two per school. Four games will now be on CBS. Sounds like a sweet deal.
On FF, I gave the rationale before. If the Bucks are in town, the operations turnover is more cost efficient to also have MUBB playing that weekend. All they have to do is swap out the floor.
If Monster Trucks, the set up is different so better to do three day shows. Same with concerts. So are the fan bases. All those events are on a tour cycle geographically, so if the Bucks pass on a date, they are shut off for a year. (Btw, monster truck competitions are huge profit makers). If the BC didn’t make money, the state will bail them out. If FF doesn’t make money, the owners lose.
To end this, MU gets far more weekend dates and much better weekend times than in the past. TV drives more of the schedule than you are admitting. And, it’s the exception when MU is not on national tv. It’s not all on the Bucks.
https://www.apnews.com/a460f1fab4584527b51b5f0fe007b5ed
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Geez, I get busy at work for half a day and when I come back, Scoop has transformed into A freaking day care center.
I haven't seen this many crying babies since the last time I watched one of those Sally Struthers infomercials.
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Marquette has been doing a bad job with game time scheduling for a few years now. I suppose they don't have a lot of control between the Bucks and Fox. At the same time, I'm not surprised it bled over into other things. I suppose we'll just go to our local NMD instead of attending the game or any of the big Marquette fundraisers in Milwaukee this year. Vote with my money
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Marquette has been doing a bad job with game time scheduling for a few years now. I suppose they don't have a lot of control between the Bucks and Fox. At the same time, I'm not surprised it bled over into other things. I suppose we'll just go to our local NMD instead of attending the game or any of the big Marquette fundraisers in Milwaukee this year. Vote with my money
Marquette has almost zero control over its schedule. Your second statement is correct.
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With all due respect, I don't believe that for a second. You think we ended up on CBS Sports Net at 11am on a Sunday on a weekend with no Bucks game last season because of TV? I think its was bc the Bucks booked Monster Trucks on Friday Night, Saturday Day and Saturday Night.
Monster Truck was at the Bradley Center for years as well. Those weekends MU was just on the road.
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It’ll be pretty embarrassing when we don’t even sell out our own day...
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Geez, I get busy at work for half a day and when I come back, Scoop has transformed into A freaking day care center.
I haven't seen this many crying babies since the last time I watched one of those Sally Struthers infomercials.
Bingo.
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It’ll be pretty embarrassing when we don’t even sell out our own day...
Who says it won't be a sell out. People have 5 months to plan.
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I do. 11am Sunday game greatly limits travel out of Milwaukee if you want to get back at a decent hour for work on Monday. The start time makes it a non starter for alums who need to fly out of Milwaukee following the game.
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And therein lies a problem brother. NMD is not a 'drunk fest' in the eyes of many. And you can drink to your hearts content all day Saturday. So maybe you'll actually remember the game this way.
Insert boo this man gif!
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I do. 11am Sunday game greatly limits travel out of Milwaukee if you want to get back at a decent hour for work on Monday. The start time makes it a non starter for alums who need to fly out of Milwaukee following the game.
So, you are just one person. Yes, it might limit your time to leave Milwaukee. Take a vacation day. Like I said, you have 5 months to plan. We had Sunday games last season that were sold out. Heck, make a Saturday game your NMD. Not sure it really matters.
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You can add me to the people that think this is super lame.
It’s a 6 hour drive for me the get to Milwaukee. While I could take Monday off work - sucks I would have to do that to attend a NMD. I think I’ve been to 5 of 7 NMDs since I graduated, but this may be one I’ll skip.
Sucks the schedule turned out the way it did. Definitely would have selected super bowl weekend over this one, but a shame MU couldn’t get the league to give them better options.
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So, you are just one person. Yes, it might limit your time to leave Milwaukee. Take a vacation day. Like I said, you have 5 months to plan. We had Sunday games last season that were sold out. Heck, make a Saturday game your NMD. Not sure it really matters.
It 100% definitely matters for people that don’t live within a couple hours of Milwaukee. And I’m someone who regularly travels to MU games both in Milwaukee and elsewhere.
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So, you are just one person. Yes, it might limit your time to leave Milwaukee. Take a vacation day. Like I said, you have 5 months to plan. We had Sunday games last season that were sold out. Heck, make a Saturday game your NMD. Not sure it really matters.
Yep - I’m the only alum who flies in for a weekend game every year….. One of the great things about our university is that it draws from every corner of the country and sends grads all over the world. I know some locals forget that, but many of us look forward to NMD as an opportunity to reconnect with friends we only get an opportunity to see once a year. The “pick a different game to celebrate” is stupid as it’s simply not possible to coordinate such a large gathering of alums at one time, in one place. I, like many other out of towners will not be making the game this year because of this lack of foresight.
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Frankly, this lays out every viable take:
https://www.anonymouseagle.com/platform/amp/2019/9/10/20859717/marquette-golden-eagles-basketball-national-marquette-day-butler-bulldogs
There was one correct answer. That answer was February 9 against Butler. There was no other choice that made sense.
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Yep - I’m the only alum who flies in for a weekend game every year….. One of the great things about our university is that it draws from every corner of the country and sends grads all over the world. I know some locals forget that, but many of us look forward to NMD as an opportunity to reconnect with friends we only get an opportunity to see once a year. The “pick a different game to celebrate” is stupid as it’s simply not possible to coordinate such a large gathering of alums at one time, in one place. I, like many other out of towners will not be making the game this year because of this lack of foresight.
Yep, it's stupid to group your friends together for a different Marquette game. Got it.
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Yep, it's stupid to group your friends together for a different Marquette game. Got it.
Yep it is difficult. And the declining interest of some friends because of years of mediocrity makes it more difficult to coordinate for just any other weekend game. Personal problem I know, but you asked so that’s that answer. I’m sure that problem isn’t exclusive to my circle of friends.
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Frankly, this lays out every viable take:
https://www.anonymouseagle.com/platform/amp/2019/9/10/20859717/marquette-golden-eagles-basketball-national-marquette-day-butler-bulldogs
There was one correct answer. That answer was February 9 against Butler. There was no other choice that made sense.
Seton Hall? I don’t see any reason why senior day and NMD absolutely cannot be combined. Why not have a guaranteed raucous, sell out crowd to celebrate Markus?
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Yep, it's stupid to group your friends together for a different Marquette game. Got it.
The logistics of getting people together from all over the country for a random game is next to impossible. When it's an event like NMD, then everyone has that weekend circled.
Plus, part of the fun is running into people that you've lost touch with over the years. That happens on NMD. Not so much and not in the same numbers on random game days.
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Seton Hall? I don’t see any reason why senior day and NMD absolutely cannot be combined. Why not have a guaranteed raucous, sell out crowd to celebrate Markus?
Because that will already be a sell out. They don't need NMD to get a raucous, sell out crowd to celebrate Markus.
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You can add me to the people that think this is super lame.
It’s a 6 hour drive for me the get to Milwaukee. While I could take Monday off work - sucks I would have to do that to attend a NMD. I think I’ve been to 5 of 7 NMDs since I graduated, but this may be one I’ll skip.
Sucks the schedule turned out the way it did. Definitely would have selected super bowl weekend over this one, but a shame MU couldn’t get the league to give them better options.
If the game was Saturday... wouldn't you drive those 6 hours on Friday? Just take off Monday instead of Friday, no?
I am not saying this is ideal, but everyone who is saying it just won't work are definitely not trying very hard.
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If NMD is THAT important to you, the vast majority of people can take Monday off work.
Cubs opening day is on a Monday every year. I'd rather it not be, but because it's important to me I take the day off work.
You seriously can't figure something out 5 months in advance?
If the game was Saturday... wouldn't you drive those 6 hours on Friday? Just take off Monday instead of Friday, no?
This. Just change your travel day.
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Now there's this nonsense...
https://www.change.org/p/marquette-students-alumni-change-national-marquette-day-to-saturday-feb-1st?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_17777083_en-US%3Av4&recruiter=1003320218&recruited_by_id=ca246dd0-d409-11e9-bd12-350625dfd001&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_abi&share_bandit_exp=initial-17777083-en-US&share_bandit_var=v2
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Now there's this nonsense...
https://www.change.org/p/marquette-students-alumni-change-national-marquette-day-to-saturday-feb-1st?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_17777083_en-US%3Av4&recruiter=1003320218&recruited_by_id=ca246dd0-d409-11e9-bd12-350625dfd001&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_abi&share_bandit_exp=initial-17777083-en-US&share_bandit_var=v2
Yes it is... that being said I signed it not so they'll change it but so they know they need to try a bit harder in future years
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Yes it is... that being said I signed it not so they'll change it but so they know they need to try a bit harder in future years
1800 people have signed it. If we all make a $100 donation, will MU change it? Let's Make Marquette Great Again!
In all seriousness, MU's hands are pretty well tied. We all agree Saturday is the best day but Sunday could work. And, let's get to the core of it: The real culprit is DePaul because no national network wants to see Jean Lenti Ponsetto's crapshow she puts on year after year despite the Chicago tv market. Can we talk again how they don't want to host MU on a weekend? DePaul has been milking the BE blind since they were admitted. And, they can't even cheat successfully.
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As an aside, CBS will get at least 20 games, two per school. Four games will now be on CBS. Sounds like a sweet deal.
On FF, I gave the rationale before. If the Bucks are in town, the operations turnover is more cost efficient to also have MUBB playing that weekend. All they have to do is swap out the floor.
If Monster Trucks, the set up is different so better to do three day shows. Same with concerts. So are the fan bases. All those events are on a tour cycle geographically, so if the Bucks pass on a date, they are shut off for a year. (Btw, monster truck competitions are huge profit makers). If the BC didn’t make money, the state will bail them out. If FF doesn’t make money, the owners lose.
To end this, MU gets far more weekend dates and much better weekend times than in the past. TV drives more of the schedule than you are admitting. And, it’s the exception when MU is not on national tv. It’s not all on the Bucks.
https://www.apnews.com/a460f1fab4584527b51b5f0fe007b5ed
We played at 11am on a Sunday after 3 straight monster truck shows. Turnover has noting to do with it.
Our weekend selection is much worse in the FF. It’s why the Lovell & Glow Center* is in design stages.
*every women’s room will say:
“WARRIORCHICK”
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Bummer, likely not coming this year.
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So, you are just one person. Yes, it might limit your time to leave Milwaukee. Take a vacation day. Like I said, you have 5 months to plan. We had Sunday games last season that were sold out. Heck, make a Saturday game your NMD. Not sure it really matters.
Yep. My 13-person group went to the Providence game -- Sunday 1/20/19. 17,524 at Fiserv. Great atmosphere, we had a fantastic time. We arrived Saturday at our convenience with no deadlines -- it was nice not having to travel on a Friday or on the day of the game. We had all kinds of fun into the wee hours, we made it easily to the next day's game, and we celebrated a big win.
MU also drew 17,309 on 1/6/19 vs X (and the kids weren't even on campus), and 17,512 on 3/3/19 vs Creighton.
So to recap, the only 3 Sunday games we have ever played at Fiserv drew an average crowd of 17,448.
I get that some are p-o'd that we're playing on a Sunday, but the notion that fans won't turn out just because it's Sunday ... evidence seems to suggest otherwise.
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We played at 11am on a Sunday after 3 straight monster truck shows. Turnover has noting to do with it.
Our weekend selection is much worse in the FF. It’s why the Lovell & Glow Center* is in design stages.
*every women’s room will say:
“WARRIORCHICK”
Moving mounds of dirt, rocks, equipment, production equipment and seating configurations are a snap. And then reassembling the basketball configuration is like cutting paper with a scissors. Thanks for the enlightenment!
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Moving mounds of dirt, rocks, equipment, production equipment and seating configurations are a snap. And then reassembling the basketball configuration is like cutting paper with a scissors. Thanks for the enlightenment!
Well there was an evening Monster Truck show and 12 hours after it ended there was a college basketball game.
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Well there was an evening Monster Truck show and 12 hours after it ended there was a college basketball game.
I believe you. What was the overtime paid?
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If the game was Saturday... wouldn't you drive those 6 hours on Friday? Just take off Monday instead of Friday, no?
I am not saying this is ideal, but everyone who is saying it just won't work are definitely not trying very hard.
Leaving work mid day on a Friday and taking Monday off are two very different things. At least at my job.
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Depaul sucks
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Leaving work mid day on a Friday and taking Monday off are two very different things. At least at my job.
You have obviously not mastered the art of taking an early morning Monday flight and telling the boss you have a doctor's appointment and will be in 10-ish. I have done that all the way from Las Vegas.
A true Marquette fan would figure out a way to make this work instead of whining about it.
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Thanks for everyone fighting the good fight. #SundaysOut
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Because that will already be a sell out. They don't need NMD to get a raucous, sell out crowd to celebrate Markus.
A Saturday NMD puts butts in the seats no questions asked. Senior day....Hopefully it will but it’s no guarantee. If the team stinks, it will not be a sellout.
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I,too, actually had no idea NMD was so important. We go if it fits our group schedule, and don’t if it doesn’t, but when we pick our games we don’t say oh, we have to go to that one. I think we’d rather the game was at 1 instead of 11, but we’ll work out post-game plans no matter what. We do always try to hit Senior Day, though.
As I don’t really care about the Super Bowl, and hate the way football rules everything, having it the same weekend wouldn’t bother me in the least.
Petitioning for a change is ridiculous, IMO.
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I feel like the people who don't care that it's a Sunday and the "I didn't know NMD was so important" crowd is a giant circle.
This means a lot to a lot of people and this puts a big damper on it for frankly poor reasons.
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A Saturday NMD puts butts in the seats no questions asked. Senior day....Hopefully it will but it’s no guarantee. If the team stinks, it will not be a sellout.
Correct, nothing is a guarantee. We should all remember that on this sad day.
Many tickets will be sold next month in mini plans. Seton Hall will be a pre-season, top 15 team. We will be saying goodbye to one of the greatest player in MU history. We can sellout 17,314 for senior day at Fiserv Forum.
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You have obviously not mastered the art of taking an early morning Monday flight and telling the boss you have a doctor's appointment and will be in 10-ish. I have done that all the way from Las Vegas.
A true Marquette fan would figure out a way to make this work instead of whining about it.
Alright, this is just downright impressive. I don't know if I'd have even thought of this, let alone done it without anxiously worrying if something would go wrong along the way.
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A Saturday NMD puts butts in the seats no questions asked. Senior day....Hopefully it will but it’s no guarantee. If the team stinks, it will not be a sellout.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if we sold out the Senior Day for Chartouny, Cam, and Heldt, (which we did), the Senior Day for Markus, Sacar, Ed, and Jayce would sell out no matter the quality of the team.
Edit: Looked it up and the last time we did not sell out Senior Day was in the 2015-16 season when Senior Night was on a Tuesday night, and our lone Senior was Michael Mache. Saturday afternoon game with Markus will be a sellout.
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Now there's this nonsense...
https://www.change.org/p/marquette-students-alumni-change-national-marquette-day-to-saturday-feb-1st?utm_content=cl_sharecopy_17777083_en-US%3Av4&recruiter=1003320218&recruited_by_id=ca246dd0-d409-11e9-bd12-350625dfd001&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=psf_combo_share_abi&share_bandit_exp=initial-17777083-en-US&share_bandit_var=v2
Honestly though, is anyone else impressed though that they got 1700 signatures in the first 7 hours?? Gotta atleast admire the passion.
Even if they're being entitled cry babies for something that we're all disappointed about but will find ways to deal with... ;D
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if we sold out the Senior Day for Chartouny, Cam, and Heldt, (which we did), the Senior Day for Markus, Sacar, Ed, and Jayce would sell out no matter the quality of the team.
Edit: Looked it up and the last time we did not sell out Senior Day was in the 2015-16 season when Senior Night was on a Tuesday night, and our lone Senior was Michael Mache. Saturday afternoon game with Markus will be a sellout.
I’m sure all tickets will be pre sold but if the team is underwhelming this year, it certainly won’t be a true sell out.
With NMD and lots of traveling fans, they’re locked into the game/weekend regardless of performance and guarantees tickets bought = butts in seats.
I strongly disagree with the notion that senior day is anywhere remotely close to the marketing/ticket seller that NMD is.
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I’m sure all tickets will be pre sold but if the team is underwhelming this year, it certainly won’t be a true sell out.
Very strongly disagree. Markus' last game in the Forum will be a true sellout, regardless.
With NMD and lots of traveling fans, they’re locked into the game/weekend regardless of performance and guarantees tickets bought = butts in seats.
Don't disagree, but the scheduling difficulties have already been addressed ad nauseam.
I strongly disagree with the notion that senior day is anywhere remotely close to the marketing/ticket seller that NMD is.
They are both always pushed extremely hard by the University/Ticketing office so even if NMD is a better marketing day (which can/has been debated) "anywhere remotely close" is quite a bit of a stretch.
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I just looked at the schedule again and MU didn't really have a choice on the NMD pick. If DePaul was a national game then problem solved. Any chance the DePaul game gets picked up by YES or SNY or RSN like that would make it national? And if Yes, would MU know in time to change NMD dates?
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I feel like the people who don't care that it's a Sunday and the "I didn't know NMD was so important" crowd is a giant circle.
This means a lot to a lot of people and this puts a big damper on it for frankly poor reasons.
A good night's sleep seems not to have helped. Let. It. Go. If this is truly your biggest disappointment in life consider yourself very blessed.
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I just looked at the schedule again and MU didn't really have a choice on the NMD pick. If DePaul was a national game then problem solved. Any chance the DePaul game gets picked up by YES or SNY or RSN like that would make it national? And if Yes, would MU know in time to change NMD dates?
Conn, they're simply not going to have NMD on a game when anything less than (you pick the appropriate percentage) of households get it on TV. Of course the diehards find a way. They want the causal MU alum tuning in and feeling part of his alma mater at least once a year. YES etc. doesn't cut it. Brew hit on it yesterday when he figured that out. The choice became totally obvious.
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Conn, they're simply not going to have NMD on a game when anything less than (you pick the appropriate percentage) of households get it on TV. Of course the diehards find a way. They want the causal MU alum tuning in and feeling part of his alma mater at least once a year. YES etc. doesn't cut it. Brew hit on it yesterday when he figured that out. The choice became totally obvious.
It has always been my understanding that television exposure was absolutely key for NMD. In fact, it was pretty much the sole driving factor many years when MU didn't have nearly as much exposure as they do now. As strongly as people who go back to campus feel about the ability to make it to the game in person, people across the country want to be able to see the game on TV. And that's a much bigger group of fans that Marquette is trying to cater to. As others have mentioned, I honestly didn't realize that attending NMB games in person was such a big deal -- a homecoming of sorts. But, there's a reason that it's called "NMD" and not just "MD." Availability to alums across the country who cannot travel to campus is a huge part of it.
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A good night's sleep seems not to have helped. Let. It. Go. If this is truly your biggest disappointment in life consider yourself very blessed.
Or nah. Thousands of people want this changed, it's not just me.
O/U the average age of people saying let it go: 45.5.
Taking the over. Stunned a "millennial" comment hasn't been dropped yet.
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I just looked at the schedule again and MU didn't really have a choice on the NMD pick.
Agreed. 2/29
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Very strongly disagree. Markus' last game in the Forum will be a true sellout, regardless.
Don't disagree, but the scheduling difficulties have already been addressed ad nauseam.
They are both always pushed extremely hard by the University/Ticketing office so even if NMD is a better marketing day (which can/has been debated) "anywhere remotely close" is quite a bit of a stretch.
It’s easy to think senior day is a huge deal when us diehards are living and dying with #mubb news on twitter/constantly refreshing scoop at all hours of the day and night, but the vast majority of fans do not care about senior day. How many people show up for the ceremony before the game or stick around if it’s after? That shows how many people actually care. The likelihood of senior day being a sellout is more due to the fact that it’s a Saturday at 2pm, not because of some ceremony most people won’t go to…
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It has always been my understanding that television exposure was absolutely key for NMD. In fact, it was pretty much the sole driving factor many years when MU didn't have nearly as much exposure as they do now. As strongly as people who go back to campus feel about the ability to make it to the game in person, people across the country want to be able to see the game on TV. And that's a much bigger group of fans that Marquette is trying to cater to. As others have mentioned, I honestly didn't realize that attending NMB games in person was such a big deal -- a homecoming of sorts. But, there's a reason that it's called "NMD" and not just "MD." Availability to alums across the country who cannot travel to campus is a huge part of it.
95% of games are on TV now across the country. What may have mattered a long time ago is a not so important now. It’s more important for a non football school to treat their homecoming like it actually matters and not an 11am Sunday game.
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All the whining about NMD has me convinced of one thing: there are a lot of Marquette fans that couldn't last 5 minutes as soccer fans. Bars like The Highbury, Nomad, and Three Lions are routinely full by 6 or 7 am. That goes for regular season and World Cup matches. You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.
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It’s easy to think senior day is a huge deal when us diehards are living and dying with #mubb news on twitter/constantly refreshing scoop at all hours of the day and night, but the vast majority of fans do not care about senior day. How many people show up for the ceremony before the game or stick around if it’s after? That shows how many people actually care. The likelihood of senior day being a sellout is more due to the fact that it’s a Saturday at 2pm, not because of some ceremony most people won’t go to…
If our Senior class was just Michael Mache, or Derrick, Juan and Carlino maybe, but Markus' number will be going up in the rafters sooner rather than later. I think you vastly underestimate how many people realize that he is a very special player and will give him the respect and recognition he deserves. It's not just diehards that recognize him as an amazing player. College Basketball fans all over the country pretty much universally accept him as one of the best players in today's game. To think that he won't get an amazing send off is a disservice.
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95% of games are on TV now across the country. What may have mattered a long time ago is a not so important now. It’s more important for a non football school to treat their homecoming like it actually matters and not an 11am Sunday game.
I honestly don't disagree. I was just putting a bit of a historical perspective on it; the broadest possible broadcast has always seemed to be an almost singular focus of MU when setting NMD. Even though I'm not coming to Milwaukee for the game (and never have), I think that the Sunday at 11:00 sucks pretty hard. Personally, I was one who tended to think that MU made a little too big of a deal about the national TV even "a long time ago." I often wished they would focus more on the match up.
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First year I won't be spending the night in Milwaukee for NMD. Lame.
2/1 was the easy choice. Superbowl the evening the next day has zero bearing on NMD.
Neither the Bears nor Packers will be playing in the SuperBowl.
So dumb.
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So far we have how many people saying they wont attend because of this in here?
Would anyone have commented if it was 2/1 or senior day? Nope.
This being on a Sunday actually affects peoples plans. This isn't hard to see. Get your heads out of the sand and realize this.
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All the whining about NMD has me convinced of one thing: there are a lot of Marquette fans that couldn't last 5 minutes as soccer fans. Bars like The Highbury, Nomad, and Three Lions are routinely full by 6 or 7 am. That goes for regular season and World Cup matches. You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.
Lol totally different but ok!
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Before I bought season tickets I almost always bought tix for Senior day, but only because it was the last home game, often against a good BE team and often an important game for their tourney resume. NOT because it was Senior day.
For all that, I'm fine with NMD where it is on next season's schedule.
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So far we have how many people saying they wont attend because of this in here?
Would anyone have commented if it was 2/1 or senior day? Nope.
This being on a Sunday actually affects peoples plans. This isn't hard to see. Get your heads out of the sand and realize this.
Just re-read the entire thread and came up with 6 (although one was Chico's so there's your silver lining). It's just like many issues that are hotly debated, the most vocal are in the minority. If you were reading this thread and planning on going you would probably stay silent just to avoid the headache. I know that I regret my decision to involve myself although I'm too far down the rabbit hole to quit now. ;D
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All the whining about NMD has me convinced of one thing: there are a lot of Marquette fans that couldn't last 5 minutes as soccer fans. Bars like The Highbury, Nomad, and Three Lions are routinely full by 6 or 7 am. That goes for regular season and World Cup matches. You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.
I'm not trying to travel to the match though. Those clubs aren't relying on all of their donors attending day-of fundraising events in Milwaukee to raise money for scholarships for the rest of the year.
The "you're not a true fan" narrative is weak (not directed specifically at you). I bet that scholarship funding suffers in years when NMD falls on a Sunday/Weekday.
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If our Senior class was just Michael Mache, or Derrick, Juan and Carlino maybe, but Markus' number will be going up in the rafters sooner rather than later. I think you vastly underestimate how many people realize that he is a very special player and will give him the respect and recognition he deserves. It's not just diehards that recognize him as an amazing player. College Basketball fans all over the country pretty much universally accept him as one of the best players in today's game. To think that he won't get an amazing send off is a disservice.
I certainly understand how special he is. I just think you vastly overestimate the amount a casual fan cares about senior day. Agree to disagree.
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So far we have how many people saying they wont attend because of this in here?
Would anyone have commented if it was 2/1 or senior day? Nope.
This being on a Sunday actually affects peoples plans. This isn't hard to see. Get your heads out of the sand and realize this.
Er... everyone trying to plan or attend a viewing party that is outside the regional FSN broadcast would have been complaining about 2/1. And if you don't think people would have complained about it coinciding with senior day... have you been reading scoop? There's always a group to complain about anything.
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Or nah. Thousands of people want this changed, it's not just me.
O/U the average age of people saying let it go: 45.5.
Taking the over. Stunned a "millennial" comment hasn't been dropped yet.
People over 45 don’t have to get an bombed on NMD or can handle work with a hangover
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I'm not trying to travel to the match though. Those clubs aren't relying on all of their donors attending day-of fundraising events in Milwaukee to raise money for scholarships for the rest of the year.
The "you're not a true fan" narrative is weak (not directed specifically at you). I bet that scholarship funding suffers in years when NMD falls on a Sunday/Weekday.
That's fair, and it was definitely meant tongue in cheek, but this feels like people are blowing this way out of proportion. The national MU clubs need the game to be televised. Locally, it needs to be on a weekend. It's not like the game is at 9 pm on a Tuesday. Fundraising events on Saturday, brunch and the game Sunday, then either fly out that night or head home Monday morning and make it to work before lunch.
I'd be curious how many of the people proclaiming this to be the end of NMD as we know it spent any time looking at flights, hotels, and the actual feasibility of travel before declaring this to be a disaster. I'm guessing it's somewhere between 0.0 & 0.1%.
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Or nah. Thousands of people want this changed, it's not just me.
O/U the average age of people saying let it go: 45.5.
Taking the over. Stunned a "millennial" comment hasn't been dropped yet.
35.125 is the average age of the 8 MU fans that I text regularly who don't see the big deal.
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All the whining about NMD has me convinced of one thing: there are a lot of Marquette fans that couldn't last 5 minutes as soccer fans. Bars like The Highbury, Nomad, and Three Lions are routinely full by 6 or 7 am. That goes for regular season and World Cup matches. You can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning.
What you describe would be if the MU club of Singapore got up to watch NMD.
We as Americans also choose to get up to watch European soccer at ungodly hours.
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I’m sure all tickets will be pre sold but if the team is underwhelming this year, it certainly won’t be a true sell out.
With NMD and lots of traveling fans, they’re locked into the game/weekend regardless of performance and guarantees tickets bought = butts in seats.
I strongly disagree with the notion that senior day is anywhere remotely close to the marketing/ticket seller that NMD is.
It's 10 percent of the capacity of the Fiserv. I doubt Mike Broeker is in the fetal position on his office rug over this.
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Alright, this is just downright impressive. I don't know if I'd have even thought of this, let alone done it without anxiously worrying if something would go wrong along the way.
Super easy if you work in The Loop and you are flying Southwest. Get out out of the plane and hop on the Orange Line. Time between Jetway and my office is about 45 minutes.
There also the much used "I will be working remotely in the morning" if your place allows that sort of thing. Not technically a lie if you answer a couple of emails in the airport waiting to board.
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Central Arkansas on FS1
North Dakota State on FSI
Robert Morris Typing College on FS2
DePaul on FS Wisconsin
Darwin nailed it!
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I’m sure all tickets will be pre sold but if the team is underwhelming this year, it certainly won’t be a true sell out.
A sell out is a sell out. There is no such thing of a true sell out. Every seat is sold or it's not.
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Alright, this is just downright impressive. I don't know if I'd have even thought of this, let alone done it without anxiously worrying if something would go wrong along the way.
We actually do it somewhat frequently UWW. There are some commutes where chick is essentially 'on time'. As an example, we'll be flying home from FLL in January where she'll arrive at the office by about 9. Where it 'stretches' for us is coming back from our home in LAS. That's a noon arrival on a good day.
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We actually do it somewhat frequently UWW. There are some commutes where chick is essentially 'on time'. As an example, we'll be flying home from FLL in January where she'll arrive at the office by about 9. Where it 'stretches' for us is coming back from our home in LAS. That's a noon arrival on a good day.
This is almost 2020. Doesn't anyone work "remotely" anymore? I know many jobs don't allow it or there are in-person required meetings. But, it is a flexible solution and big benefit. I just tell my boss. I will be doing that the Monday after the last Orlando game (game at Sunday PM).
More so, about 25% of our professional positions are remote 100% of the time. Talent is easier to recruit with this policy.
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This is the dumbest Marquette controversy since Lazar Hayward wore the wrong number.
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A sell out is a sell out. There is no such thing of a true sell out. Every seat is sold or it's not.
Big difference between reported attendance and actual attendance. That’s very simple stuff.
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Big difference between reported attendance and actual attendance. That’s very simple stuff.
Well, attendance number reports in all sports are tickets sold. ;)
You were talking about tickets sold. So, again it's either a sell out or not. If you think there will be tons of no-shows, fine.
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Make National Marquette Day a weekend. Country superstar Brantley Gilbert will perform at Fiserv Forum on Saturday, Feb. 8, 2020 as part of his Fire’t Up Tour with Chase Rice, Dylan Scott and Brandon Lay.
https://www.fiservforum.com/events/detail/brantley-gilbert-fire-it-up-tour?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTVRkak1qazRZVE5rWkdKbCIsInQiOiJISzlrcjAwRkxVUTF1Q3NZYys5QlVGZXVNRTZoeEVQR0drZnpsZUJ1UHJJSEZXdzN0c1NtTWN1eUFlK2U2TU1FVitKR3FLS2ZneEI2aWtOS2RodExKTHhQWDNMODlkdlY0YVJaQUZIdzA5SWN0QTk3M3hmcDZjdis5ZU41Q25CdiJ9
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Make National Marquette Day a weekend. Country superstar Brantley Gilbert will perform at Fiserv Forum on Saturday, Feb. 8, 2020 as part of his Fire’t Up Tour with Chase Rice, Dylan Scott and Brandon Lay.
https://www.fiservforum.com/events/detail/brantley-gilbert-fire-it-up-tour?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTVRkak1qazRZVE5rWkdKbCIsInQiOiJISzlrcjAwRkxVUTF1Q3NZYys5QlVGZXVNRTZoeEVQR0drZnpsZUJ1UHJJSEZXdzN0c1NtTWN1eUFlK2U2TU1FVitKR3FLS2ZneEI2aWtOS2RodExKTHhQWDNMODlkdlY0YVJaQUZIdzA5SWN0QTk3M3hmcDZjdis5ZU41Q25CdiJ9
Guess this concert screwed things up.....
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Well, attendance number reports in all sports are tickets sold. ;)
You were talking about tickets sold. So, again it's either a sell out or not. If you think there will be tons of no-shows, fine.
Alright poindexter use some context clues and common sense one time.
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You have obviously not mastered the art of taking an early morning Monday flight and telling the boss you have a doctor's appointment and will be in 10-ish. I have done that all the way from Las Vegas.
A true Marquette fan would figure out a way to make this work instead of whining about it.
Lol...true Marquette fan? GMAFB. I legit have missed less than 5 games since my freshman year in 2008 so don’t give me that bullcrap.
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Lol...true Marquette fan? GMAFB. I legit have missed less than 5 games since my freshman year in 2008 so don’t give me that bullcrap.
What's your excuse for those 5 games?
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This is the dumbest Marquette controversy since Lazar Hayward wore the wrong number.
Clearly you don't remember when that same thing happened again when Wojo started coaching.
Unless it was dumber because of Crean?
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Alright poindexter use some context clues and common sense one time.
(http://media3.giphy.com/media/MnWbFsmlpcBKU/source.gif)
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What's your excuse for those 5 games?
A few were not televised anywhere on earth, and the others I was on a plane.
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Alright poindexter use some context clues and common sense one time.
Wojo likes Country?
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35.125 is the average age of the 8 MU fans that I text regularly who don't see the big deal.
Millennials ::)
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A Saturday NMD puts butts in the seats no questions asked.
Butts will be in the seats anyway on Senior Day for Markus.
And they'll be in the seats on Sunday 2/9/20, too. Again, there were 3 Sunday home games last season and the average tickets sold number was 17,448.
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I'm bummed, and won't make it this year as a result.
On the bright side, day drinking on a Sunday.
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NATIONAL Marquette Day needs to be on NATIONAL TV. 2/1 was a non-starter.
I agree with Dr. B. Really this is all Depaul's fault.
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Real question, if Depaul were to come out of the gates blazing (big if) and the broadcast were to get bumped to national, is there any chance we could change it?
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Real question, if Depaul were to come out of the gates blazing (big if) and the broadcast were to get bumped to national, is there any chance we could change it?
No.
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No.
Easy on the details and reasoning there
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No.
Just like there's a zero point zero chance that Scholl will even look at a stupid internet petition.
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Easy on the details and reasoning there
My guess is that there are too many things built around NMD that the planning has started now or already has been in the works. It would be tough to pivot.
Plus building a contingency plan around DePaul getting a hot start is a fool’s errand.
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Just got ANOTHER email asking me to buy tickets.
*checks schedule* Oh NMD on a SaturdaySunday and lackluster Saturday home games?
*deletes email*
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Just got ANOTHER email asking me to buy tickets.
*checks schedule* Oh NMD on a Saturday and lackluster Saturday home games?
*deletes email*
The petition worked?!?!?
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The petition worked?!?!?
Whoops. Oh well, gotta speak with my wallet. 'Tis the American way.
inb4oldpeopletrytolectureme
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Whoops. Oh well, gotta speak with my wallet. 'Tis the American way.
inb4oldpeopletrytolectureme
Well played wolfie! May we ask how old you actually are or what year you graduated?
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Well played wolfie! May we ask how old you actually are or what year you graduated?
I'm young enough to be affected by NMD being on a Sunday and old enough to need multiple days to recover from a Saturday NMD.
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I'm young enough to be affected by NMD being on a Sunday and old enough to need multiple days to recover from a Saturday NMD.
You don’t have to get drunk
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You don’t have to get drunk
Have you seen Wojo coach?
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Have you seen Wojo coach?
My man!!! ;D
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Have you seen Wojo coach?
Well played
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Have you seen Wojo coach?
Man, that’s good. Deserved that!
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Just got ANOTHER email asking me to buy tickets.
*checks schedule* Oh NMD on a SaturdaySunday and lackluster Saturday home games?
*deletes email*
I thought you said you were considering not renewing your season tickets?
Does this mean you didn't renew them?
Is that because you had to renew them months ago?
Was all of that a lie?
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Whoops. Oh well, gotta speak with my wallet. 'Tis the American way.
inb4oldpeopletrytolectureme
I don't know any alumni that well who are over 40... far more in their 20's. Not a one of them, that I'm aware, are going to let this unfortunate circumstance hold them back from enjoying NMD, even if they'd rather it be on a Saturday. That goes for both in and out of town folks.
youinvitethelecturebywhiningrepeatedly
notagerelated
Seriously though, if this is your favorite day of the year, why would you let this stop you? It's a disappointment and a let down, but is it so awful that you're planning to forego your favorite event of the year? That just doesn't seem like a very fulfilling way to go through life.
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First time, long time.
I agree that it has to be a national game and scheduling sucks for NMD options. I still think MU should have just made it Senior Day, and it's a money grab to put it 2/9. I think there will noticeably less buzz around MKE this year. If that is the case, we all agree that is a bummer!
I'll still be coming in from out of state, but do know several friends who are legitimate fans who will not be trekking for NMD this year. If you want to say this was the only option, fine, but you don't have to be blind to the fact that it WILL impact alums decision to travel into MKE and therefore WILL impact the spirit of the weekend. Just because you won't be impacted or can make it work doesn't mean people IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION (crazy idea, I know) will be able to.
That said, we will all be fine and those in attendance will have fun that weekend.
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You have five months to prepare for this. If it’s really that important to you, you can figure out a way.
I know there’s some jobs out there where you are stuck but I have to imagine the vast majority of jobs will give you the day off should you request it five months in advance.
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I don't know any alumni that well who are over 40... far more in their 20's. Not a one of them, that I'm aware, are going to let this unfortunate circumstance hold them back from enjoying NMD, even if they'd rather it be on a Saturday. That goes for both in and out of town folks.
youinvitethelecturebywhiningrepeatedly
notagerelated
Seriously though, if this is your favorite day of the year, why would you let this stop you? It's a disappointment and a let down, but is it so awful that you're planning to forego your favorite event of the year? That just doesn't seem like a very fulfilling way to go through life.
Yes you do. Chick just lies about it. ;D
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I am far more upset that I can't get a good Beef 'n Cheddar inside the FF. I'd settle for potato cakes with a thick dusting of the Horsey+Arby's Sauce blend.
#mmga
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Yes you do. Chick just lies about it. ;D
What?! Lies! Not a day over 29!
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What?! Lies! Not a day over 29!
Yep. Graduated from Marquette at the ripe old age of -6.
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Yep. Graduated from Marquette at the ripe old age of -6.
You and Markus
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I'm sure others also recently got an email from MU Ticket Office pushing 5-game mini-plans.
I couldn't help but notice this:
Mini Plan Games:
Purdue - Wednesday, November 13
North Dakota State - Friday, December 20
Villanova - Saturday, January 4
DePaul - Saturday, February 1
Butler - Saturday, February 9 - National Marquette Day
Oops!
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I'm sure others also recently got an email from MU Ticket Office pushing 5-game mini-plans.
I couldn't help but notice this:
Mini Plan Games:
Purdue - Wednesday, November 13
North Dakota State - Friday, December 20
Villanova - Saturday, January 4
DePaul - Saturday, February 1
Butler - Saturday, February 9 - National Marquette Day
Oops!
So, they clearly picked that day due to not being able to read a calendar.
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So........
Now that NMD is over, was it the worst day ever as some made it out to be? No fun was had?
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So........
Now that NMD is over, was it the worst day ever as some made it out to be? No fun was had?
I had fun at our watching party, and it seemed the 20 or so other folks had a pretty good time too.
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So........
Now that NMD is over, was it the worst day ever as some made it out to be? No fun was had?
Significantly less than it usually is. People were late/hungover for pregame (and the game), and the crowds dispersed real quick after a massive win. Wasn't a flop though
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We have a recent retiree who has made it her mission to create a functioning regional chapter. She hosted a party for the Seton Hall game, and hosted again yesterday. Both times, there were 20+ alum and family, but with very little overlap. We had a room to ourselves with the game on 6 TV's. Pizza, beer, banter. It was a good time.
I hope she is able to keep building it.
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It’ll be pretty embarrassing when we don’t even sell out our own day...
It would have been yes.
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It would have been yes.
While it was listed as a sell out, there's no denying there were a lot of empty seats that usually are filled on NMD
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While it was listed as a sell out, there's no denying there were a lot of empty seats that usually are filled on NMD
No proof, but strongly suspect that had more to do with the weather rather than the game being on a Sunday, because it had been sold out for days. It wasn't one of TC's sell outs where we break the attendance by 9 or something. NMD sold out, despise the fact that many here didn't think it would and had a hissy fit about it.
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Bar on 3rd St I went to before the game may have had more Butler fans than MU. Lots of empty seats. Still a good atmosphere but not as fun as a Saturday NMD.
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I could deal with a Sunday game, but the 11 AM tip was brutal. Still a good atmosphere, though.
The high water mark for NMD was that Xavier game a few years ago. A 65 degree day leading into a Saturday night NMD. One of the most bonkers crowds I've been a part of.
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There were some flurries, but did that really keep anyone from making the trip? The roads didn't get bad until hours later, and even then were never that bad.
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So........
Now that NMD is over, was it the worst day ever as some made it out to be? No fun was had?
It didn't have the same energy and I suspect that MU has reached out to the appropriate BEast powers seeking 'a little help' in future years. But the university made the best of a not so good situation this year.
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There were some flurries, but did that really keep anyone from making the trip? The roads didn't get bad until hours later, and even then were never that bad.
The roads were really bad to the north and west. I live an hour away and was on the fence about going yesterday. The only reason I ultimately went was because it was the last game of the year my kids could go to. It was a crappy drive there and a crappier drive home. Thank goodness the game turned out good.
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There were some flurries, but did that really keep anyone from making the trip? The roads didn't get bad until hours later, and even then were never that bad.
I know a couple of out-of-towners that hit up a handful of games every year, and always prioritize NMD, that told me that they turned around midway through coming in because of the weather.
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Bar on 3rd St I went to before the game may have had more Butler fans than MU. Lots of empty seats. Still a good atmosphere but not as fun as a Saturday NMD.
I did brat house beforehand and yeah there was like 10 people downstairs and upstairs was packed with Butler fans
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Yep. Graduated from Marquette at the ripe old age of -6.
Did you go to high school very shortly after I did?????
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Ideally, NMD would be around 2 on a Saturday. I didn't think this year's timing was a big deal, but I'll definitely admit I'd prefer it on a Saturday afternoon. Hopefully that's when it will be next season, and folks will have to find something else to complain about.
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Significantly less than it usually is. People were late/hungover for pregame (and the game), and the crowds dispersed real quick after a massive win. Wasn't a flop though
Not sure where you went after the game, but 3rd street seemed pretty packed. There was a line out the door at Buck Bradley's 10 minutes after the buzzer. I have never had to wait to get in there before.
I mean - it's one o'clock on Sunday afternoon and your team just had a huge victory - of course you are going to celebrate afterwards, especially if you didn't get a chance to pregame.
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Bar on 3rd St I went to before the game may have had more Butler fans than MU. Lots of empty seats. Still a good atmosphere but not as fun as a Saturday NMD.
You must have gone to the Butler Inn.
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Curious, why do people flock to Buck Bradley’s still? There’s way better food and drinking options.
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We left the far north side of Chicago around 8:45. Saw two accidents in Wisconsin on the way up. Went to Water Street after, lots of MU people there. Left for home a little before three, the ride to the state line was pretty awful. Saw at least three spin outs.
In fact two of our group who live west of Milwaukee didn’t come at all, mainly because they had to drive to Madison after the game. One of our friends who lives in the Hartland area took almost as long to get home as we did. So yeah, I am sure some of the no-shows were weather related.
I don’t mind a Sunday, but the 11 am start is the hard part.
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Curious, why do people flock to Buck Bradley’s still? There’s way better food and drinking options.
It's close, everyone knows where it is, and in our case, we were going to a private party upstairs.
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It's close, everyone knows where it is, and in our case, we were going to a private party upstairs.
‘83 bash? How was it?
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While it was listed as a sell out, there's no denying there were a lot of empty seats that usually are filled on NMD
Students buy a ticket and head to the Panorama Club. Looks like a lot of empty seats, but they are there. They are in the Club patronizing the bar. I’m cool with it.
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‘83 bash? How was it?
Good! All the usual suspects.
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Not sure where you went after the game, but 3rd street seemed pretty packed. There was a line out the door at Buck Bradley's 10 minutes after the buzzer. I have never had to wait to get in there before.
I mean - it's one o'clock on Sunday afternoon and your team just had a huge victory - of course you are going to celebrate afterwards, especially if you didn't get a chance to pregame.
we headed to Turner hall because we couldn't move at Brat House. By the time we finished a game of shuffleboard turner hall went from packed to half empty. That's what I meant by the crowds disappeared real quick.
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I had the best turnout for NMD that I had in some time. And people stayed to hang out in the beer hall after the game.
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I stayed home because of weather. Madison had snow from 6 am to 6 pm.
Too bad the weather was perfect on Saturday. >:(
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Good! All the usual suspects.
Did the chicks wonder where Newsie and I were?
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Did the chicks wonder where Newsie and I were?
;D
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Did the chicks wonder where Newsie and I were?
🤔 ... no.
😂
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Came from Chicago too. Left very early like 7:30. Not a bad ride up. Back was much worse. People see snow forecasts and they stay home. There were a lot of empty seats but still a big crowd for a lousy weather day.
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we headed to Turner hall because we couldn't move at Brat House. By the time we finished a game of shuffleboard turner hall went from packed to half empty. That's what I meant by the crowds disappeared real quick.
I am sure that was more of a function of the weather steadily worsening.