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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: rocket surgeon on September 02, 2019, 06:44:23 AM
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i was having the beginning of some arthritic-like pain in the middle knuckle only of both hands. not debilitating, but annoying. sometimes worse, sometimes unnoticeable. my doc told me to increase my glucosamine/chondroitin. it actually started to get worse.
now i'm not one to tout or sensationalize anything except maybe a king cobra driver or something, but i had been hearing about this CBD stuff. so i talked to a dude in this health store who knew his chit. he did not sensationalize his product either, but rather pointed to some of the mechanisms by with it may work for some people. my conclusions are that for reasons still unknown, it potentiates our body's own mechanisms, enzyme interactions, neurotransmitter release and or synapse efficiency, etc etc
so i tried this stuff and within one day, my arthritic discomfort was decreased from about a 6/7 on a 10 scale down to approximately a 1 or 2. as for all that extra stuff-sleep, stress, constipation, virulity, SAT/ACT scores, golf scores, and all the other stuff i can't really say one way or the other. but, ONE DAY was what caught my attention
one other observation, get it from a reputable source-yo go online for some more inexpensive, CBD-looking stuff, you could be getting gopher p!ss for all ya know. it's not cheap which is another aspect i was surprised by. it must be a market thing as i can't believe there is a shortage of "hemp" anywhere
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Some people swear by the stuff rocket. Glad it works for you. Driving around this weekend, I lost track of all the CBD oil billboards around.
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Topical or ingested?
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Topical or ingested?
Bath bomb.
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one other observation, get it from a reputable source-yo go online for some more inexpensive, CBD-looking stuff, you could be getting gopher p!ss for all ya know. it's not cheap which is another aspect i was surprised by. it must be a market thing as i can't believe there is a shortage of "hemp" anywhere
One other thought on this: if you get it from a non-reputable source, you could get oil with a higher THC than advertised. Hemp derived CBD oil with a 0.3% THC content is almost certainly not going to cause a failed drug test. But if someone doesn't know for sure what he/she's getting, he/she might get a higher concentration of THC that could cause problems with an employer's drug testing program.
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There’s also a reasonable chance, due to the unregulated market, that you’ll get a product with 0 CBD in it.
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There’s also a reasonable chance, due to the unregulated market, that you’ll get a product with 0 CBD in it.
Absolutely. I thought that was what rocket was alluding to when he said you might get gopher piss. I was simply pointing out that the other end of the spectrum is also a possibility and that could create problems for you.
I think it's generally pretty solid advice when buying things of this nature (i.e., supplements) to buy from a reputable source. I honestly have never used supplements (beyond a simple multivitamin) so I don't have any experience on which sources are reputable. However, because of my job I have had occasion to delve a bit into the medical marijuana/CBD issue over the last several months.
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Absolutely. I thought that was what rocket was alluding to when he said you might get gopher piss. I was simply pointing out that the other end of the spectrum is also a possibility and that could create problems for you.
I think it's generally pretty solid advice when buying things of this nature (i.e., supplements) to buy from a reputable source. I honestly have never used supplements (beyond a simple multivitamin) so I don't have any experience on which sources are reputable. However, because of my job I have had occasion to delve a bit into the medical marijuana/CBD issue over the last several months.
Not that I am interested in buying it at this point, but how would one know what a "reputable source" is? Even Walgreens and CVS sell a lot of supplements that are a little questionable.
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Not that I am interested in buying it at this point, but how would one know what a "reputable source" is? Even Walgreens and CVS sell a lot of supplements that are a little questionable.
As I mentioned, I'm probably not the best person to ask. However, your post makes me realize I may have chosen my words poorly. I wasn't so much talking about the "source" where you buy the product (i.e., the retailer) as the source of the product itself (i.e., the manufacturer). And I don't have a lot of advice on that point either aside from trying to do some research on the various manufacturers.
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i was having the beginning of some arthritic-like pain in the middle knuckle only of both hands. not debilitating, but annoying. sometimes worse, sometimes unnoticeable. my doc told me to increase my glucosamine/chondroitin. it actually started to get worse.
now i'm not one to tout or sensationalize anything except maybe a king cobra driver or something, but i had been hearing about this CBD stuff. so i talked to a dude in this health store who knew his chit. he did not sensationalize his product either, but rather pointed to some of the mechanisms by with it may work for some people. my conclusions are that for reasons still unknown, it potentiates our body's own mechanisms, enzyme interactions, neurotransmitter release and or synapse efficiency, etc etc
so i tried this stuff and within one day, my arthritic discomfort was decreased from about a 6/7 on a 10 scale down to approximately a 1 or 2. as for all that extra stuff-sleep, stress, constipation, virulity, SAT/ACT scores, golf scores, and all the other stuff i can't really say one way or the other. but, ONE DAY was what caught my attention
one other observation, get it from a reputable source-yo go online for some more inexpensive, CBD-looking stuff, you could be getting gopher p!ss for all ya know. it's not cheap which is another aspect i was surprised by. it must be a market thing as i can't believe there is a shortage of "hemp" anywhere
Loosen da grip on yo putter, hey?
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i was having the beginning of some arthritic-like pain in the middle knuckle only of both hands. not debilitating, but annoying. sometimes worse, sometimes unnoticeable. my doc told me to increase my glucosamine/chondroitin. it actually started to get worse.
now i'm not one to tout or sensationalize anything except maybe a king cobra driver or something, but i had been hearing about this CBD stuff. so i talked to a dude in this health store who knew his chit. he did not sensationalize his product either, but rather pointed to some of the mechanisms by with it may work for some people. my conclusions are that for reasons still unknown, it potentiates our body's own mechanisms, enzyme interactions, neurotransmitter release and or synapse efficiency, etc etc
so i tried this stuff and within one day, my arthritic discomfort was decreased from about a 6/7 on a 10 scale down to approximately a 1 or 2. as for all that extra stuff-sleep, stress, constipation, virulity, SAT/ACT scores, golf scores, and all the other stuff i can't really say one way or the other. but, ONE DAY was what caught my attention
one other observation, get it from a reputable source-yo go online for some more inexpensive, CBD-looking stuff, you could be getting gopher p!ss for all ya know. it's not cheap which is another aspect i was surprised by. it must be a market thing as i can't believe there is a shortage of "hemp" anywhere
CBD lotion and balm have been a godsend for me. I gave some to a coworker with similar back pain and within a half hour he was back in my office asking for more. My acupuncturist said to make sure what I get also has THC in it. More effective. I realize many may not live in states with legal marijuana but if you do buy the stuff from a dispensary, you’ll know it’s legit, THC or not.
And CBD/THC gummies are an excellent sleep aid.
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Topical or ingested?
30mg per dropper oil under the tongue once/day called pure 1500 hemp oil from a reputable health store. surprising, GNC doesn't carry it. the guy said they had it, but pulled it because of the labeling or something, but will be getting it back in near future
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Loosen da grip on yo putter, hey?
wrong oil doc, but they say not to hold to tight, good tempo and move the hips toward the target and release. too tight ya tend to snap hook and too loose ya tend to fade
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No drug tests for dentists or NCAA administrators?
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No drug tests for dentists or NCAA administrators?
only if you're in the monitoring program...i.e. history of substance abuse
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Not that I am interested in buying it at this point, but how would one know what a "reputable source" is? Even Walgreens and CVS sell a lot of supplements that are a little questionable.
A reputable source will provide on their website and other sources the raw analytical chemistry tests for every single batch of their products. The results (usually liquid chromatograph) should include a full analysis of the total cannabinoid content, and the overall breakdown on the different types of cannabinoids. There are a lot more cannabinoids than THC and CBD, and you want to know the full spectrum of compounds present.
If a company doesn't provide their analytical testing results, and have readily available each and every batches test results, do not buy from them.
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A reputable source will provide on their website and other sources the raw analytical chemistry tests for every single batch of their products. The results (usually liquid chromatograph) should include a full analysis of the total cannabinoid content, and the overall breakdown on the different types of cannabinoids. There are a lot more cannabinoids than THC and CBD, and you want to know the full spectrum of compounds present.
If a company doesn't provide their analytical testing results, and have readily available each and every batches test results, do not buy from them.
thanks for the in depth answer forget. for the more simple minded and this is not a dig, but i got to know the owner of the place. we talked about the different products he had and some of the physiological and pharmaceutical interactions of the CBD products. no one knows for sure how this works, and if they say they do, they would be lying, imho.
my belief is that it potentiates many of our different enzyme functions. the anti-inflammatory response for example-everyone's is different to varying degrees; some compromised for whatever reason. many people confuse inflammation with swelling. they are not necessarily mutually inclusive but can be mimic each other but for different reasons. saying that they are both part of the healing process would be more of a direct response however.
how it affects sleep? that's outta my wheelhouse
back to the reputable part though- meeting the owner of the health hut, for me, he did not come off as overly zealous. he did not "over-hype" the product. he gave me many options, including the fact that it may not work or different oils may produce different results. we started out with a real general, basic product. there are so many different oils, capsules, caplets, oil filled caps etc that after forgets response, it makes more sense to me. in other words, the guy was more informative than he was salesman(woman), but happened to be a guy in this instance.
my mother has used it with improved results, but a friend of hers did have some adverse reactions. she did have an underlying heart issue that may have played a role.
it's not necessarily for everyone. that's why i'm not going to stand on a soapbox and tout it's magic
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I tried gummies a few months ago, wasn’t impressed. Was from whatever company Bubba Watson is selling. Been debating about trying an oil.
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I tried gummies a few months ago, wasn’t impressed. Was from whatever company Bubba Watson is selling. Been debating about trying an oil.
I forgot if it was ESPN or SI, but the article from earlier this year on the amount of guys on the senior tour using CBD was interesting to read. I usually suffer from seasonal disorder, and was thinking of trying something this fall/winter.
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I forgot if it was ESPN or SI, but the article from earlier this year on the amount of guys on the senior tour using CBD was interesting to read. I usually suffer from seasonal disorder, and was thinking of trying something this fall/winter.
Phil was definitely pumping CBD at the Masters.
Is it worth even getting involved in with cannabis edibles right around the corner for Illinois?
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Phil was definitely pumping CBD at the Masters.
Is it worth even getting involved in with cannabis edibles right around the corner for Illinois?
I travel enough to places where it’s legal where it’s not an issue. Plus Illinois will no way be ready soon. Just like gambling isn’t ready yet for football.
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Phil was definitely pumping CBD at the Masters.
Is it worth even getting involved in with cannabis edibles right around the corner for Illinois?
Far too many promises are being made about CBD. It’s real benefits are as a non-narcotic pain reliever and muscle relaxant. It can also work as a sleep aid as well and stress reducer. But, you need to make sure you’re getting the proper dosage. And, mixed with THC will make it most effective. I like 2/1 CBD/THC, though my wife likes 1/1. I took a few of those 1/1 90 minutes before a red eye and I was flying before the plane took off. ;D
With all of the questions about vaping and lung health I’ve shifted to only edibles (gummies, mints, or spray, or balms for muscle pain). I wouldn’t buy straight CBD from regular commercial outlets. It’s an unregulated industry and you don’t actually know how much CBD is in a pill. A licensed weed shop, however, is regulated so what the label says is what you’re getting.
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Far too many promises are being made about CBD. It’s real benefits are as a non-narcotic pain reliever and muscle relaxant. It can also work as a sleep aid as well and stress reducer. But, you need to make sure you’re getting the proper dosage. And, mixed with THC will make it most effective. I like 2/1 CBD/THC, though my wife likes 1/1. I took a few of those 1/1 90 minutes before a red eye and I was flying before the plane took off. ;D
With all of the questions about vaping and lung health I’ve shifted to only edibles (gummies, mints, or spray, or balms for muscle pain). I wouldn’t buy straight CBD from regular commercial outlets. It’s an unregulated industry and you don’t actually know how much CBD is in a pill. A licensed weed shop, however, is regulated so what the label says is what you’re getting.
Couple squirts from the eye dropper, order a large special from Zeek's, start spinnin' Dark Side of the Moon on the B&O, slip on the Bose, and grab a bag of Oreos and you got the makings of a great evening, hey?
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I travel enough to places where it’s legal where it’s not an issue. Plus Illinois will no way be ready soon. Just like gambling isn’t ready yet for football.
Illinois Dept. of Health assigned a deputy general counsel whose role was basically devoted to contemplating marijuana legalization about a decade ago, i.e. long before medical or recreational legislation started making its way through Springfield.
I'm not saying that Illinois is going to become Colorado the morning of Jan 1, but Illinois is probably much further ahead on this than we all think.
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Couple squirts from the eye dropper, order a large special from Zeek's, start spinnin' Dark Side of the Moon on the B&O, slip on the Bose, and grab a bag of Oreos and you got the makings of a great evening, hey?
Nah. I only use any CBD/THC for therapeutic purposes - pain management, sleep assistance, maybe stress management. Nothing "recreational." In fact, I really dislike the idea of inhaling any substance into my lungs having outgrown asthma.
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Couple squirts from the eye dropper, order a large special from Zeek's, start spinnin' Dark Side of the Moon on the B&O, slip on the Bose, and grab a bag of Oreos and you got the makings of a great evening, hey?
Dark side of the moon? I’m thinking more so Europe ‘72
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Nah. I only use any CBD/THC for therapeutic purposes - pain management, sleep assistance, maybe stress management. Nothing "recreational."
So morning, noon and night - but not recreational.
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In fact, I really dislike the idea of inhaling any substance into my lungs having outgrown asthma.
Walk around downtown Seattle and one is constantly inhaling weed. Thank God I'm not subject to random urinalysis screening anymore...
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Dark side of the moon? I’m thinking more so Europe ‘72
If I want Jerry and the gang I am slapping down American Beauty.
Europe '72 had the utilitarian advantage of being a double album - the '70's dorm room cutting board.
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Couple squirts from the eye dropper, order a large special from Zeek's, start spinnin' Dark Side of the Moon on the B&O, slip on the Bose, and grab a bag of Oreos and you got the makings of a great evening, hey?
Bose sucks!
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Imma need some serious THC for that photo.
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CBD lotion and balm have been a godsend for me. I gave some to a coworker with similar back pain and within a half hour he was back in my office asking for more. My acupuncturist said to make sure what I get also has THC in it. More effective. I realize many may not live in states with legal marijuana but if you do buy the stuff from a dispensary, you’ll know it’s legit, THC or not.
And CBD/THC gummies are an excellent sleep aid.
Do you mind recommending a specific brand or place to purchase? I’m interested
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One thing to watch with gummies....they melt at 90 degrees. Cant keep them in your car all day.
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One thing to watch with gummies....they melt at 90 degrees. Cant keep them in your car all day.
How often do you hit the Arby's drive-thru in a week?
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Anyone hear of this alternative to THC called "CHO"? Evidently, it's a just-as-effective treatment for all of the same ailments that THC is used for, and like THC it can be consumed as an edible, inhalant, beverage, or applied topically. Also like THC, it's a completely natural product and can even be cultivated in the home by just about anyone with minimal cost/effort.
Over the last few years, there's been at least a half-dozen new businesses around here spring up that are specializing in CHO, because unlike THC, it's technically not illegal in any state (or under federal law) and measurement of potency is much more consistent/accurate than THC.
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How often do you hit the Arby's drive-thru in a week?
I dont drive under the influence....of Arby's.
Once per month will keep my doctor employed for the foreseeable future.
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Anyone hear of this alternative to THC called "CHO"?
Cho? or Choad?
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Anyone hear of this alternative to THC called "CHO"? Evidently, it's a just-as-effective treatment for all of the same ailments that THC is used for, and like THC it can be consumed as an edible, inhalant, beverage, or applied topically. Also like THC, it's a completely natural product and can even be cultivated in the home by just about anyone with minimal cost/effort.
Over the last few years, there's been at least a half-dozen new businesses around here spring up that are specializing in CHO, because unlike THC, it's technically not illegal in any state (or under federal law) and measurement of potency is much more consistent/accurate than THC.
Never heard of CHO, but if it is an analog of a cannabinoid with functionality comparable to THC, it is technically still illegal under the "analog acts" where essentially they can arrest anyone at anytime for possessing things that are not currently listed as illegal.
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Do you mind recommending a specific brand or place to purchase? I’m interested
I am currently using a balm from Hana Pharmaceuticals, which is CBD/THC, which I buy at a dispensary. Empower white label is good stuff if you can’t get THC, and you can order it online.
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Never heard of CHO, but if it is an analog of a cannabinoid with functionality comparable to THC, it is technically still illegal under the "analog acts" where essentially they can arrest anyone at anytime for possessing things that are not currently listed as illegal.
It's not an analog at all... my understanding is that it's derived from a fungal byproduct, so if anything, it's closer to an analog of penicillin than anything else. Yet it has all the same benefits as THC, and it's legal to use.
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Interesting story from Texas about hemp, THC, and prosecutions for possession:
https://www.keranews.org/post/when-texas-legalized-hemp-it-forced-some-counties-change-how-they-prosecute-pot (https://www.keranews.org/post/when-texas-legalized-hemp-it-forced-some-counties-change-how-they-prosecute-pot)
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Interesting story from Texas about hemp, THC, and prosecutions for possession:
https://www.keranews.org/post/when-texas-legalized-hemp-it-forced-some-counties-change-how-they-prosecute-pot (https://www.keranews.org/post/when-texas-legalized-hemp-it-forced-some-counties-change-how-they-prosecute-pot)
i'm moving to texas to open up some THC testing labs...problem is, you can only test so much pot before ya start sounding like cheech and chong
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I have mentioned on Scoop before that my brother-in-law works for the largest law firm in the U.S. that focuses on cannibus law. It started when his cousin wrote the bill to legalize recreational marijuana in Colorado, and suddenly people in every other state wanted him to work on theirs.
Anyway, he and my sister are two of the partners in a CBD business based in Denver. I don't know a lot about CBD personally, but I know that my sister and her husband are not BS artists and take their health very seriously.
Their blog and the articles they link are also an interesting, if not entertaining read.
The website is roogoods.com and you can get 25% off anything on the site with the code holiday25 . They don't need me to shill for them, but if you are thinking about trying CBD, this would be better than buying it from some rando.
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I have mentioned on Scoop before that my brother-in-law works for the largest law firm in the U.S. that focuses on cannibus law. It started when his cousin wrote the bill to legalize recreational marijuana in Colorado, and suddenly people in every other state wanted him to work on theirs.
Anyway, he and my sister are two of the partners in a CBD business based in Denver. I don't know a lot about CBD personally, but I know that my sister and her husband are not BS artists and take their health very seriously.
Their blog and the articles they link are also an interesting, if not entertaining read.
The website is roogoods.com and you can get 25% off anything on the site with the code holiday25 . They don't need me to shill for them, but if you are thinking about trying CBD, this would be better than buying it from some rando.
FDA says CBD not generally recognized as safe
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/what-you-need-know-and-what-were-working-find-out-about-products-containing-cannabis-or-cannabis
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-warns-15-companies-illegally-selling-various-products-containing-cannabidiol-agency-details
Class Actions Immediately Follow
https://www.foodprocessing.com/articles/2020/power-lunch-cbd/
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/class-session-cbd-class-action-lawsuits-are-trending