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Title: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: fjm on June 21, 2019, 10:34:12 AM
Injury at practice.

Out 3-4 months.

Poor guy. Sheesh.

https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1142093138590388224?s=21

Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Marcus92 on June 21, 2019, 10:41:51 AM
Sorry for Greg to hear the news -- especially since it looks like he'll miss out playing with the team in Spain and France. But I'm sure he'll be 100% dedicated to his rehab and hopefully read for the start of the season.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on June 21, 2019, 10:43:21 AM
Get well soon, Greg.  Sounds like he should just be ready to go for the start of the season, barring any set-backs.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: ATL MU Warrior on June 21, 2019, 10:45:28 AM
Poor guy seems snakebit with all the injuries.  Heal well.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 21, 2019, 10:55:03 AM
Bet that means the Symir redshirt doesn't happen.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 21, 2019, 11:02:08 AM
Bet that means the Symir redshirt doesn't happen.

If greg is ready before practice even starts its really immaterial to a longterm plan. When they actualky are already adding two other guards to last years lineup in koby n akanno
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on June 21, 2019, 11:10:41 AM
If greg is ready before practice even starts its really immaterial to a longterm plan. When they actualky are already adding two other guards to last years lineup in koby n akanno

I think it is a bigger deal to skill and strength development. 
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 21, 2019, 11:30:14 AM
If greg is ready before practice even starts its really immaterial to a longterm plan. When they actualky are already adding two other guards to last years lineup in koby n akanno


Immaterial to the long-term plan maybe.  However he will be out of summer workouts and who knows what kind of basketball shape he will be in come November.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: TAMU Eagle on June 21, 2019, 12:04:53 PM
Hate it. Kid can't seem to catch a break. Hope he heals up well. I think he can really help us
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Herman Cain on June 21, 2019, 12:21:26 PM
I feel for this young man. A very hard worker who was all ready to bust out .

Hopefully he comes through rehab protocol with flying colors.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Warrior1969 on June 21, 2019, 12:59:55 PM
This is why Torrence must play.    Greg has had three injuries now.  Every year we say oy my God we are so deep, how is everyone going to play?  Then come January we only have 9-10 bodies.  Play Symir!
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: muguru on June 21, 2019, 01:23:49 PM
Hate to say it, but this is also a decent reason why you should use the 13th scholarship on a grad transfer(obviously none left really). Injuries, you can't predict them. But you also can't assume you won't have any.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: jsglow on June 21, 2019, 01:38:56 PM
Hate to say it, but this is also a decent reason why you should use the 13th scholarship on a grad transfer(obviously none left really). Injuries, you can't predict them. But you also can't assume you won't have any.

Perhaps.  But the 13th being available for a mid-year transfer does make some sense.   No argument is we're talking about the 12th.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: tower912 on June 21, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
Damn.   Dexter, Symir, do you hear that?   That is opportunity knocking.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: swoopem on June 21, 2019, 01:55:07 PM
Worst offseason ever
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: 79Warrior on June 21, 2019, 02:15:26 PM
I think it is a bigger deal to skill and strength development.

for sure.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: hdog1017 on June 21, 2019, 03:23:54 PM
Reminds me of that one guy who got hurt all the time
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Skatastrophy on June 21, 2019, 03:33:55 PM
Reminds me of that one guy who got hurt all the time

Tackling Dummies 2: Electric Boogaloo
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: MU82 on June 21, 2019, 03:38:20 PM
Rooting for Greg to come back even more determined and in great shape. I'm sure the medical staff won't let him return until he's 100%.

And, of course, glad we have depth at the position.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Marcus92 on June 21, 2019, 03:45:39 PM
And, of course, glad we have depth at the position.

Great point. This is why you need depth. Injuries are going to happen. A deeper roster means greater flexibility to adjust when they do.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on June 21, 2019, 03:55:58 PM
Any JJ's walking boot confirmation?
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: manny31 on June 21, 2019, 04:10:51 PM
Feel bad for GE, damn.

Before someone beats me to it, will somebody explain to me why this is Wojo's fault.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 21, 2019, 04:56:05 PM
Feel bad for GE. I was never wild about him as a player but he really seems like a good kid and a solid teammate. Rooting for him to get healthy and bounce back.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Class71 on June 21, 2019, 05:09:58 PM
Feel bad for GE, damn.

Before someone beats me to it, will somebody explain to me why this is Wojo's fault.

Not Wojo's fault. Also feel bad for the kid. It is another tough break.

I think the real issue is some on this board assume this young man is going to be the savor of this team based on little or no factual information. Assumptions are made to fulfill some unrealistic expectation that makes them feel good. I shutter to think what they are going to say if and when this fantasy does not come true. All I ask is that you do not blame GE.

GE was ranked 224 nationally coming out of HS. He was a 3 star recruit and ranked 49th as a shooting guard. I wish him the best but to thing he is somehow going to morph into a team saving point guard is an unrealistic expectation. If he does I will be a very, very happy camper but if he does not do not blame him for your unfounded expectations
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Silent Verbal on June 21, 2019, 05:21:47 PM
Not Wojo's fault. Also feel bad for the kid. It is another tough break.

I think the real issue is some on this board assume this young man is going to be the savor of this team based on little or no factual information. Assumptions are made to fulfill some unrealistic expectation that makes them feel good. I shutter to think what they are going to say if and when this fantasy does not come true. All I ask is that you do not blame GE.

GE was ranked 224 nationally coming out of HS. He was a 3 star recruit and ranked 49th as a shooting guard. I wish him the best but to thing he is somehow going to morph into a team saving point guard is an unrealistic expectation. If he does I will be a very, very happy camper but if he does not do not blame him for your unfounded expectations

His injury last year became one of the excuses for why we folded down the stretch.  His impending return was one of the reasons we would be really, really good this coming season, despite losing other, higher impact players.

I hope GE comes back stronger than ever and is ready for the beginning of the season.  But having watched him as a freshman, I think being a decent role player is probably his ceiling.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: GooooMarquette on June 21, 2019, 05:31:57 PM
Tough break for Greg.

As for expectations, I see him as having the potential to be a more athletic (and higher scoring) version of a guy like Sacar. Not a superstar or savior, but a guy who could be the difference between us having another pretty good year and a really good one. And that’s fine by me.

Now rest and heal, young man!
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Marcus92 on June 21, 2019, 07:05:16 PM
Savior? I don't recall anyone on this board describing Greg as anything close to that.

He's a quick, athletic guard with size and length. He flashed potential on the defensive end as a freshman -- but was limited due to the hand injury (and the fact that he was a freshman). Then he missed all of last season.

If he's healthy (special emphasis on the qualifier "if"), he could (qualifier #2) be a quality contributor off the bench. With his quickness and long arms, he'd likely (qualifier #3) earn minutes for his defensive contributions alone. But the hope (qualifier #4) is that he could handle some (qualifier #5) of the ball handling duties, as well -- which might (qualifier #6) mean Markus won't have to carry the team on his back as much and can be (qualifier #7) even more of an offensive force.

Nobody knows what Greg is capable of, because he hasn't been healthy. His outside shooting is pretty much a complete mystery. But he combines great physical tools with a great attitude. I'm very curious to see him on the court again.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: MU82 on June 21, 2019, 07:09:30 PM
Only one Scooper who has waxed poetic about how wonderful G.E. is:

9-9-9.

For the rest of us, he is an unknown. We hope he can be a good role player. And maybe he still can be. Here's hoping for a speedy and complete recovery.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Cheeks on June 21, 2019, 08:24:54 PM
His injury last year became one of the excuses for why we folded down the stretch.  His impending return was one of the reasons we would be really, really good this coming season, despite losing other, higher impact players.

I hope GE comes back stronger than ever and is ready for the beginning of the season.  But having watched him as a freshman, I think being a decent role player is probably his ceiling.

It would have been nice to have another ball handler, guard when Markus was hurt down the stretch....yes....that would have been a benefit for this team down the stretch.  Do you disagree?
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: #UnleashCain on June 21, 2019, 08:56:49 PM
Savior? I don't recall anyone on this board describing Greg as anything close to that.


I'd say about 70% of scoop was clamoring for Greg to be the point guard hero last year. About 85% were saying he would be the starting pg this year.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Cheeks on June 21, 2019, 08:58:12 PM
I'd say about 70% of scoop was clamoring for Greg to be the point guard hero last year. About 85% were saying he would be the starting pg this year.

No way on the second one, not even close to that number.  Both way below 25%.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: forgetful on June 21, 2019, 09:09:42 PM
Really feel for Greg. Hope the surgery goes well and he is back to his normal self quickly.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: WhiteTrash on June 21, 2019, 09:12:37 PM
Feel bad for GE, damn.

Before someone beats me to it, will somebody explain to me why this is Wojo's fault.

Did I miss someone blaming Wojo for this? Inside joke I'm not 'in' on?
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: tower912 on June 21, 2019, 09:21:37 PM
In autumn, 2018,  Wojo said that Greg was playing well enough to start before he reinjured his thumb.  After Chartouny disappointed, based on Wojo's earlier statement, it was widely assumed he was telling the truth and that Greg would have contributed.   Since guard depth was an issue, it was natural to believe Greg would have helped that weakness.

Savior?  Meh.  Contributor in an area lacking depth?   Absolutely.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Herman Cain on June 21, 2019, 09:38:10 PM
Only one Scooper who has waxed poetic about how wonderful G.E. is:

9-9-9.

For the rest of us, he is an unknown. We hope he can be a good role player. And maybe he still can be. Here's hoping for a speedy and complete recovery.
Greg is my favorite player on the team . 

I love his unselfish style of play. Always looking for the open man, is a deep seated personal philosophy of his. The kid works hard on defense, is extremely competitive and thus is the type of player the coaches want on the floor as much as possible.  Had a very solid freshman season despite playing essentially one handed which prohibited much of a handle.

Did very well against Big East opponents which is an important consideration . The highlight of the year was his game on the road against Villanova where he put up 13 points on 5-10 shooting 1-2 from 3 made both free throws , 4 boards. 1 assist 2 steals and block with 1 turnover going up against Jalen Brunson and Phil Booth.

I think Greg is a difference maker for MU  in that he uses his length and athleticism to create in ways that no one else on the team has done on a consistent basis.

Lets hope physical therapy goes well for Greg and he can spend October getting in shape again.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: TAMU Eagle on June 21, 2019, 11:18:22 PM
I can't think of reading a single post where someone said that Greg would be a savior or a starting PG, but this is at least the 25th time I've read a post claiming that.

I think I have higher expectations for Greg than most. I think he was one of our best defensive players his freshman year and his offense was coming along at the end despite playing one handed. If healthy, I think he pushes for starters' minutes this season. But as a SG, and nowhere near "savior" levels.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: MU82 on June 22, 2019, 08:19:25 AM
Greg is my favorite player on the team . 

I love his unselfish style of play. Always looking for the open man, is a deep seated personal philosophy of his. The kid works hard on defense, is extremely competitive and thus is the type of player the coaches want on the floor as much as possible.  Had a very solid freshman season despite playing essentially one handed which prohibited much of a handle.

Did very well against Big East opponents which is an important consideration . The highlight of the year was his game on the road against Villanova where he put up 13 points on 5-10 shooting 1-2 from 3 made both free throws , 4 boards. 1 assist 2 steals and block with 1 turnover going up against Jalen Brunson and Phil Booth.

I think Greg is a difference maker for MU  in that he uses his length and athleticism to create in ways that no one else on the team has done on a consistent basis.

Lets hope physical therapy goes well for Greg and he can spend October getting in shape again.

I sincerely hope you are right about his potential, and obviously I (and all other Scoopers) hope he has a clean bill of health by MU Madness or shortly thereafter.

I can't think of reading a single post where someone said that Greg would be a savior or a starting PG, but this is at least the 25th time I've read a post claiming that.

I think I have higher expectations for Greg than most. I think he was one of our best defensive players his freshman year and his offense was coming along at the end despite playing one handed. If healthy, I think he pushes for starters' minutes this season. But as a SG, and nowhere near "savior" levels.

I simply don't have enough information to know exactly what to expect from Greg. He played hurt as a freshman and missed his next season. I'm hoping he can be as good as you and 9-9-9 believe, and more.

As for your first paragraph, TAMU ... that is 100% correct.

Scoop is the most hyperbole-filled site in the history of the interwebs.

Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 22, 2019, 09:12:40 AM
I sincerely hope you are right about his potential, and obviously I (and all other Scoopers) hope he has a clean bill of health by MU Madness or shortly thereafter.

I simply don't have enough information to know exactly what to expect from Greg. He played hurt as a freshman and missed his next season. I'm hoping he can be as good as you and 9-9-9 believe, and more.

As for your first paragraph, TAMU ... that is 100% correct.

Scoop is the most hyperbole-filled site in the history of the interwebs.

Maybe Greg hurt himself to undermine Wojo and prove Howard is a cancer
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Cheeks on June 22, 2019, 11:05:34 AM
Maybe Greg hurt himself to undermine Wojo and prove Howard is a cancer

PRN might know
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Herman Cain on June 23, 2019, 10:22:44 PM
Ankle surgery rehab protocol. 14-16 weeks. Then Greg has to get back into condition.

https://www.uwhealth.org/files/uwhealth/docs/sportsmed/SM-39916_Lateral_AnkleProtocol.pdf
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: forgetful on June 23, 2019, 10:35:24 PM
Ankle surgery rehab protocol. 14-16 weeks. Then Greg has to get back into condition.

https://www.uwhealth.org/files/uwhealth/docs/sportsmed/SM-39916_Lateral_AnkleProtocol.pdf

Do we know the exact injury yet? All I saw was ankle surgery. Like knee injuries (ACL, MCL, LCL, PCL) there are a number of different injuries that can lead to ankle surgery, the timelines for recovery vary considerably.

Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: BrewCity83 on June 24, 2019, 11:45:55 AM
Well, at least the injury happened in June and not December, right?
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: GooooMarquette on June 24, 2019, 01:08:49 PM
Well, at least the injury happened in June and not December, right?


Or February....
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: UNC Eagle on June 28, 2019, 07:51:45 PM
Have some good news to share with the board.

I was at the airport in Milwaukee today and ran into Greg .  He was heading to family in Detroit . Seemed to be in good spirits . He said he dislocated his ankle and that he should be ready for the start of the season .

Greg said he spent the redshirt year primarily focused on the weight room and that he had put on a good 15 pounds of muscle .  He also said that Ike is back with the team practicing hard and that we should be seeing some good “rim protection” from Ike. Greg also reported  that Koby is going to add a lot of physicality to the team .

Seems like he had an overall upbeat view to the season.

Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: tower912 on June 28, 2019, 08:28:13 PM
Thank you.    Good news across the board.     Except of course, the dislocated ankle.     
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 28, 2019, 11:07:38 PM
Dislocation a heck of alot better than a break, also first we have heard if ike practice, that could be wonderful news. 
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: MU82 on June 29, 2019, 12:07:47 AM
Have some good news to share with the board.

I was at the airport in Milwaukee today and ran into Greg .  He was heading to family in Detroit . Seemed to be in good spirits . He said he dislocated his ankle and that he should be ready for the start of the season .

Greg said he spent the redshirt year primarily focused on the weight room and that he had put on a good 15 pounds of muscle .  He also said that Ike is back with the team practicing hard and that we should be seeing some good “rim protection” from Ike. Greg also reported  that Koby is going to add a lot of physicality to the team .

Seems like he had an overall upbeat view to the season.

Thanks for the 4-1-1, UNCE.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: Cheeks on June 29, 2019, 01:08:32 AM
Have some good news to share with the board.

I was at the airport in Milwaukee today and ran into Greg .  He was heading to family in Detroit . Seemed to be in good spirits . He said he dislocated his ankle and that he should be ready for the start of the season .

Greg said he spent the redshirt year primarily focused on the weight room and that he had put on a good 15 pounds of muscle .  He also said that Ike is back with the team practicing hard and that we should be seeing some good “rim protection” from Ike. Greg also reported  that Koby is going to add a lot of physicality to the team .

Seems like he had an overall upbeat view to the season.

Ugh, that sounds immensely painful.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: The Hamberdler on June 29, 2019, 01:57:57 AM
Dislocation a heck of alot better than a break, also first we have heard if ike practice, that could be wonderful news.

I don't think you can dislocate your ankle without a break somewhere or another. I mean, maybe it's happened before to somebody... Maybe Greg apparently. Still, break or not, doesn't necessarily mean surgery is required.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: MUDPT on June 29, 2019, 05:48:03 AM
I don't think you can dislocate your ankle without a break somewhere or another. I mean, maybe it's happened before to somebody... Maybe Greg apparently. Still, break or not, doesn't necessarily mean surgery is required.

This. I’m guessing he broke his fibula with the dislocation. You usually don’t have surgery day after an ankle sprain. Also, if just dislocated, could sedate, put it back and he would be good to go in a few days.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: 4everDawson on June 29, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
The best solution: shut Greg down for another year and have all his joints replaced by their bionic equivalents.
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: brewcity77 on June 29, 2019, 11:01:15 AM
The best solution: shut Greg down for another year and have all his joints replaced by their bionic equivalents.

At shooting guard, from Detroit Michigan, Number 5, GREG ELLLLLLLLLL-IOTT!!!!!!

(https://i.imgur.com/p2OUB0N.gif)
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: NickelDimer on June 29, 2019, 11:59:49 AM
At shooting guard, from Detroit Michigan, Number 5, GREG ELLLLLLLLLL-IOTT!!!!!!

(https://i.imgur.com/p2OUB0N.gif)

That is effing terrifying
Title: Re: GE ANKLE SURGERY
Post by: T-Bone on June 29, 2019, 07:34:08 PM
That is effing terrifying
Not as terrifying as Marcus Jackson playing point.