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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: brewcity77 on April 24, 2019, 10:38:45 PM
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Haven't seen the destination, but looks like the team will go on a tour in August. As Paint Touches notes, that could mean no Markus in the Pan Am Games, which go from July 27-August 10.
https://twitter.com/painttouches/status/1121254743656026112?s=21
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When did Markus get inked?
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When did Markus get inked?
right around the at nova game. must be the hauser petition that split the locker room on his arm.
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right around the at nova game. must be the hauser petition that split the locker room on his arm.
I noticed one on his upper delt, bicep and chest in the photo.
Looks like Theo has added to his collection or body art too.
Will there ever be a better one on a MU player than Amal’s black power fist tattoo? ;D
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This can't hurt recruiting - Hope they go someplace really cool!
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Will Lou Gramm be touring with them?
Oh wait, misread the title.
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Will Lou Gramm be touring with them?
Oh wait, misread the title.
Saw them at the Waukesha County Fair back in ‘94. Closed with “Jukebox Hero”. Giant inflatable jukebox went up. Classic
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Will Lou Gramm be touring with them?
Oh wait, misread the title.
Hauser brothers playing some Head Games with MU.
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Their decision to transfer was "Cold As Ice."
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I have Inside Information that their exit was a real Headknocker
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Damage is done there … This is turning into a pretty good thread.
Back to the travel part, hopefully the summer trip will avoid places that are cold as ice.
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I'm sure the tour will be in a warm place---we know how Hot Blooded Wojo and his team are.
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It's pretty Urgent that Wojo develops a good sense of team on this tour and they leave the Dirty White (Hauser) Boys behind. Hopefully they will be on the same page and no longer suffer from Double Vision, and everyone can say "I don't want to live without you." Blue Mornings ahead!!!
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"Feels like the first time" some of the team will be a "Long Long way from home"....
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I thought Wojo said on the last TV show of the season that the destination is Spain.
And we can all catch what's touring as Foreigner live at Summerfest on June 26.
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But that was yesterday..... and yesterday's gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4fyuBYZIcE
But that's not the end of my world, just a slight change of plans.
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I thought Wojo said on the last TV show of the season that the destination is Spain.
And we can all catch what's touring as Foreigner live at Summerfest on June 26.
Saw them at County Stadium in 1978, now it will be a sing-a-long like all the oldies bands, pass.
Milwaukee County Stadium May 26, 1978
Bob Welch
Jefferson Starship
Foreigner
Nazareth
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had to google...never heard of him or the band....songs were out around the same time i was born...and i just barely meet the millennial age range. old farts.
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All these shakeups in Warrior Nation are giving me Double Vision...
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had to google...never heard of him or the band....songs were out around the same time i was born...and i just barely meet the millennial age range. old farts.
If you know Journey and Boston, Foreigner was just as important to the rise of arena rock in the late 1970s. They sold more than 80 million records worldwide.
BTW, their self-titled first album -- featuring hits such as "Cold As Ice" and "Feels Like the First Time" -- came out in 1977. Coincidence? You could even say that listening to Foreigner gives you a greater appreciation of a time when the Marquette Warriors ruled college basketball.
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Can't wait for Midnight Blue errr----ummm---Midnight Madness!
(Or is that Lou Gramm solo work?)
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Solo.
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Someone put up the Thomas Bilde signal!
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Someone put up the Thomas Bilde signal!
He wants to know what love is...
He wants you to show him...
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i wonder who they'll be playing against in spain
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They'll be playin' mainly in the rain.
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If they go to Ibiza, marbella, Barcelona, or Sevilla, I just may have to go. Spain is such an amazing country. Too bad El Bulli us still not open, but I digress.
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If they go to Ibiza, marbella, Barcelona, or Sevilla, I just may have to go. Spain is such an amazing country. Too bad El Bulli us still not open, but I digress.
Add Grenada to that list. An amazing place.
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If they go to Ibiza, marbella, Barcelona, or Sevilla, I just may have to go. Spain is such an amazing country. Too bad El Bulli us still not open, but I digress.
Still, lots of excellent places to eat
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Does anyone know when more information about the foreign tour will be made available. All I have seen is 10 days with 2 games in Spain and 1 in France. I know the last one was sometime in August, will this one be around the same time frame?
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I haven't seen specific matchups or game dates and times yet -- other than it will be two games in Spain and one in France over the course of 10 days (August 9-18).
Going back to the Journal-Sentinel interview from early in May, this part near the end stood out: "The NCAA also allows the Golden Eagles 10 practices before the trip."
That's huge. Even with 3 starters and 6 rotation players returning, the team will have a very different identity, look and playing style with the departures of Sam and Joey and the additions of Koby, Greg, Jayce, Symir and Dexter.
Ordinarily, players are limited to 8 weeks of athletic activities -- weight-training, conditioning and skill-related instruction -- during the summer. Activities are limited to 8 hours a week. That's 64 hours total.
With this tour, MU will have 10 extra practices and 3 exhibition games to figure out how the pieces fit.
http://www.ncaa.org/playing-rules/playing-and-practice-season-rules (http://www.ncaa.org/playing-rules/playing-and-practice-season-rules)
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Early reminder that will be ignored I'm sure.
If we win big it doesn't mean we are going to have a great season and if we get beat it doesn't mean we are going to suck. Competition can be marginal or tough.......you just never know.....and obviously there is little to no game planning or scouting.
It's great for the team to get extra practice time, try to out different lineups and build chemistry.
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Early reminder that will be ignored I'm sure.
If we win big it doesn't mean we are going to have a great season and if we get beat it doesn't mean we are going to suck. Competition can be marginal or tough.......you just never know.....and obviously there is little to no game planning or scouting.
It's great for the team to get extra practice time, try to out different lineups and build chemistry.
Plus it can help recruiting with all tge media photos
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As long as the photos aren't mug shots from being caught for shoplifting. I still can't get over how incredibly dumb those UCLA players were on the trip to China.
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Will these games be televised like the last Euro trip?
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Will these games be televised like the last Euro trip?
Saw today that they will not be. Broeker said it just wasn't feasible. They will post highlights and box scores after.
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That is a total bummer. Was looking forward to seeing how the new pieces fit.
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Saw today that they will not be. Broeker said it just wasn't feasible. They will post highlights and box scores after.
Bs it take a person sitting in the stands with a hotspot and webcam to do it. Not like we're expecting fox sports production quality
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Bs it take a person sitting in the stands with a hotspot and webcam to do it. Not like we're expecting fox sports production quality
Since they did it last time, it is funny that used 'feasible' as the word. If they just don.t want to do it, fine, just say so.
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Bs it take a person sitting in the stands with a hotspot and webcam to do it. Not like we're expecting fox sports production quality
Maybe someone needs to donate money to the Blue and Gold fund specifically earmarked for that. Also, send a Digital Media student to do the filming as an internship.
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How about a Gopro 7 Black with a cellphone and hotspot.
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How about a Gopro 7 Black with a cellphone and hotspot.
yep, and this little app called Livestream.
How hard would that be?
Maybe we need a scoop gofundme to buy the gopro for MU Athletics?
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yep, and this little app called Livestream.
How hard would that be?
Maybe we need a scoop gofundme to buy the gopro for MU Athletics?
It might be cheaper to just do a gofundme to send a film student over there to do it on the unofficial. First ever muscoop livestream.
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Just this week FloSports announced that it will stream six Division I men's basketball foreign tours on FloHoops.com: Georgetown, Georgia Tech, Seton Hall, Syracuse, Washington and Xavier.
All of those tours are organized by a company called Complete Sports Management. Other tours that CSM manages (for Furman, Murray State, Temple, Texas Tech and USC) have not announced a streaming deal.
https://www.flosports.tv/flosports-to-broadcast-six-division-i-mens-basketball-foreign-tours-on-flohoops-com/ (https://www.flosports.tv/flosports-to-broadcast-six-division-i-mens-basketball-foreign-tours-on-flohoops-com/)
https://www.cs-mgmt.com/foreign-tours (https://www.cs-mgmt.com/foreign-tours)
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It might be cheaper to just do a gofundme to send a film student over there to do it on the unofficial. First ever muscoop livestream.
Thomas Bilde or GTFO.
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When does the tour take place?
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When does the tour take place?
https://gomarquette.com/news/2019/7/9/mens-basketball-marquette-travels-to-spain-france-in-august.aspx
The travel party will depart campus on Aug. 9 for Barcelona and spend three days in the city, including a pair of games, before leaving for Paris on Aug. 14. Along with a final competition, itinerary highlights include visiting the Louvre Museum, Eiffel Tower and Normandy.
Fans interested in following the team during its tour can do so on Twitter (@MarquetteMBB), Instagram (Marquette.basketball) and Facebook (MarquetteMensBB). The games won't be available live online, but highlights and statistics will be provided. Details for open practices prior to the team's departure are being finalized.
Someone needs to show those folks how to use Twitch.tv
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https://gomarquette.com/news/2019/7/9/mens-basketball-marquette-travels-to-spain-france-in-august.aspx
Someone needs to show those folks how to use Twitch.tv
Yup.
Twitch, YouTube, Facebook Live etc. It’s not difficult, all you need is a camera and a WiFi connection.
High school basketball teams do it. Marquette is just too lazy which is weird cause I’m sure they’re going to be filming th games anyways.
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Yup.
Twitch, YouTube, Facebook Live etc. It’s not difficult, all you need is a camera and a WiFi connection.
High school basketball teams do it. Marquette is just too lazy which is weird cause I’m sure they’re going to be filming th games anyways.
Maybe MU does not want tape out on our new offense
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First official practice before trip
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1153380391643951104?s=21
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Maybe MU does not want tape out on our new offense
Still the same 1-4 ISO, just with 15% more Howard attempts.
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Still the same 1-4 ISO, just with 15% more Howard attempts.
Probably not. Someone other than Markus on the team can create their own shot this year.
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First official practice before trip
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1153380391643951104?s=21
One boot spotted.
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One boot spotted.
Greg is practicing on one leg.
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Greg is practicing on one leg.
Played with one hand, time to play on one leg!
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Watching Dexter (number 1 in White) tackling Jayce on this play. Dexter definitely has the Big East mentality going .
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1153415804232372224
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Played with one hand, time to play on one leg!
Greg "The Unicorn" Elliott
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Watching Dexter (number 1 in White) tackling Jayce on this play. Dexter definitely has the Big East mentality going .
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1153415804232372224
Theo doing a pretty good job staying in front of #34, though he left his feet a little early.
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Have any logistics of the foreign tour been shared?
Exact dates & locations? Are the games open to alumn?
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Have any logistics of the foreign tour been shared?
Exact dates & locations? Are the games open to alumn?
No opening bands yet.
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No opening bands yet.
I thought they had Foreigner booked.
Jeez - like someone said upthread, they'll be such a long, long way from home....
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Watching Dexter (number 1 in White) tackling Jayce on this play. Dexter definitely has the Big East mentality going .
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1153415804232372224
Markus took the shot. I guess Wojo can expect a letter.
Good to see Dexter willing to mix it up from the start.
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Markus took the shot. I guess Wojo can expect a letter.
Good to see Dexter willing to mix it up from the start.
If we ever have another Scoop meme contest, "The Letter" would be a solid contender.
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I thought they had Foreigner booked.
Jeez - like someone said upthread, they'll be such a long, long way from home....
I know it feels like the first time though.
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I know it feels like the first time though.
These puns really play head games with me...
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It is just a reaction to action.
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These puns really play head games with me...
I've been thinking all week that I really miss the Foreigner song title puns from this thread.
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I've been thinking all week that I really miss the Foreigner song title puns from this thread.
Hopefully you didn’t think so hard that it gave you Double Vision.
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You're all Jukebox Heroes
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https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1154039881808564227&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fmarquette%2FBoard%2F104085%2FContents%2FKoby-is-going-to-be-a-big-time-addition-133906240%2F
Some great stuff here. Both the team getting ready to go overseas and the TBT team. Scroll through. Brendan blocking Sacar on a one-on-one drill. Koby looking tough. Some old friends.
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A couple great-looking hesitation dribbles from Koby.
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Multiple letters being written
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1155941819223441408?s=21
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Sacar handle looks better
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1156299267763560455?s=21
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Multiple letters being written
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1155941819223441408?s=21
They've brought in a photocopy machine to be more efficient.
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Sacar handle looks better
Brendan does a pretty good job moving his feet to stay in front of him, as well.
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More head games, John & Johnson playing at same time in practice for tour.
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1159561365767565320?s=21
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Is there a team sendoff?
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More head games, John & Johnson playing at same time in practice for tour.
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1159561365767565320?s=21
They have 10 players for 2 teams, 3 bigs. One team would have to have 2 bigs at the same time.
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They have 10 players for 2 teams, 3 bigs. One team would have to have 2 bigs at the same time.
True, though I would gave guessed that morrow and another big would be the usual pair up
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Does anyone know the dates and times and locations of the games?
Livestream?
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Does anyone know the dates and times and locations of the games?
Livestream?
No and No....
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No and No....
In their infinite wisdom, MUBB has decided not to announce the date and time of the games nor to stream. DePaul has, though. A big BOO!
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In their infinite wisdom, MUBB has decided not to announce the date and time of the games nor to stream. DePaul has, though. A big BOO!
This has to be one of the most baffling decisions in ages. Even if you give one of the student managers an internet-connected camera with Periscope capability, that would be better than nothing, wouldn't it? I'm completely bewildered why they didn't decide to do something.
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I have a feeling the decision against streaming isn't about cost, logistics or effort. Just a guess, but maybe Wojo and the staff want to focus 100% on the team.
They only have 3 games in 10 days, where other foreign tours play up to 5 games. It could be the #1 goal is building camaraderie and making this trip a great experience for the players -- rather than on-court performance. (They'll probably win by 30+ against the low level of competition they'll face.) It might also lessen the pressure of fan expectations early on.
I'll definitely miss watching the games. Who knows? Maybe they'll change their minds and decide to stream them.
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I agree that it's a conscious decision for undetermined reasons. I'll try to ask someone when I get a chance simply to determine that and not 'why' if they aren't up for sharing.
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When’s the first game?
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It's apparent that MU is actively trying to increase the number of female season ticketholders this year.
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67902852_1759479310862355_2940042295367434240_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQkTE_3bL1a3a6Jk7rOUJsjCyqZJedi9YpSrih4bOxoRz65sBkZtYEjnj0Bcgl9kKw4&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=e9cdc5981a20f4e84c552d7f481d9468&oe=5DEAFE71)
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It's apparent that MU is actively trying to increase the number of female season ticketholders this year.
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67902852_1759479310862355_2940042295367434240_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQkTE_3bL1a3a6Jk7rOUJsjCyqZJedi9YpSrih4bOxoRz65sBkZtYEjnj0Bcgl9kKw4&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=e9cdc5981a20f4e84c552d7f481d9468&oe=5DEAFE71)
I am glad Greg was able to take the trip.
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When’s the first game?
12 ct today. See MU twitter for updates... ugh.
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All jumpman suits
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12 ct today. See MU twitter for updates... ugh.
Damn so no live coverage.
Implies there should be coverage for some of the other games though?
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This team they’re playing any good?
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This team they’re playing any good?
Ohio State had to come back from 12 down to beat these Catalan All Stars last year, 68-66. Have no idea if their roster makeup is the same this year.
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Really disappointed these games aren’t being streamed anywhere.
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Per MUBB Instagram:
Starting 5: Howard, Kobe, anim, jayce, Theo.
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Instagram live for the stream. Scoop letter writing campaign triumphs again.
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https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160602541983318016?s=21
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Instagram live for the stream. Scoop letter writing campaign triumphs again.
Stopped after first?
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Instagram live for the stream. Scoop letter writing campaign triumphs again.
not on there?
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Unofficial stats have MU up 55-32 at halftime. Cain leading scorer with 12. Anim with 9, Bailey, John, and Jayce all with 8. Jayce had 7 rebounds. McEwen with 4 assists, Howard and Torrence 3 apiece. Howard with just 2 points on 1/7 shooting (0/4 from 3).
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Live for a bit to start 2nd half
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1160613338558058496?s=20
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That’s a smooth looking shot from Bailey.
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160621829012090881?s=21
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Marquette wins 86-70 over Catalan All-Stars.
Cain led all scorers with 16, Bailey added 15 & 8 boards.
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Box score:
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160625658638110720?s=21
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Cain and Bailey contributing early is nice
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Markus with 6 TO’s Good grief. Some things stay the same I suppose
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Markus with 6 TO’s Good grief. Some things stay the same I suppose
Yeah like people loving to complain.
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My bad. Markus with 6 TO’s!!!!!! Yeeeeeeeeeeees!!!!!!!!
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Glad to see Jamal and Brendan did well . They are two key components in my thesis that MU is going to be a more athletic team with better chemistry this season. Keep up the good work guys.
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Box score:
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160625658638110720?s=21
I see Markus is designated as (C), presumably for "cancer".
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Marquette wins 86-70 over Catalan All-Stars.
Cain led all scorers with 16, Bailey added 15 & 8 boards.
Think the final score is a bit deceiving and MU was up about 30 in the 4th quarter. From the little I saw of the game, Jayce looked better than I was expecting. Taking everything with a grain of salt this trip though. Good or bad.
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I see Markus is designated as (C), presumably for "cancer".
Sacar with the K
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Think the final score is a bit deceiving and MU was up about 30 in the 4th quarter. From the little I saw of the game, Jayce looked better than I was expecting. Taking everything with a grain of salt this trip though. Good or bad.
What stood out about Jayce was how big he looked. Like massive. When he started out there with Theo, Jayce is physically significantly larger than Theo is. It's the first time, even watching opposition, that I thought Theo looked small.
Agree about taking it with a grain of salt, but there's no denying he provides a massive physical presence. With the amount of space his frame demands, it's understandable why he was such a dominant rebounder at Utah.
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What stood out about Jayce was how big he looked. Like massive. When he started out there with Theo, Jayce is physically significantly larger than Theo is. It's the first time, even watching opposition, that I thought Theo looked small.
Agree about taking it with a grain of salt, but there's no denying he provides a massive physical presence. With the amount of space his frame demands, it's understandable why he was such a dominant rebounder at Utah.
Play in the paint was good from what I saw.
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(C)=Captain.(?)
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(C)=Captain.(?)
Presumably.
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(C)=Captain.(?)
You didn’t actually believe it was cancer I hope.
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Interesting Box Score, probably meaningless.
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Think the final score is a bit deceiving and MU was up about 30 in the 4th quarter. From the little I saw of the game, Jayce looked better than I was expecting. Taking everything with a grain of salt this trip though. Good or bad.
Johnny09 has the low down on Jayce
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It's apparent that MU is actively trying to increase the number of female season ticketholders this year.
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67902852_1759479310862355_2940042295367434240_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQkTE_3bL1a3a6Jk7rOUJsjCyqZJedi9YpSrih4bOxoRz65sBkZtYEjnj0Bcgl9kKw4&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=e9cdc5981a20f4e84c552d7f481d9468&oe=5DEAFE71)
Pretty sure the udder bathers on da beach were scared chitless wen dis motley got near, aina?
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Pretty sure the udder bathers on da beach were scared chitless wen dis motley got near, aina?
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DelayedLinedAlaskanhusky-size_restricted.gif)
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Johnny09 has the low down on Jayce
Cheeks has the low down on absolutely nothing.
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Cheeks has the low down on absolutely nothing.
The best, the best
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Pretty sure the udder bathers on da beach were scared chitless wen dis motley got near, aina?
Hauser brothers would have sunburnt on this trip, probably a good idea they went elsewhere, eh?
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(C)=Captain.(?)
No it stands for Carter, MU's Euro All-Star. FYI, MU PGs are usually gone within a year after overseas trips. I predict this is Markus' last year at MU.
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Box score:
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160625658638110720?s=21
Though only an exhibition, some interesting, encouraging stuff in there.
I see Markus is designated as (C), presumably for "cancer".
Made me chuckle.
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Though only an exhibition, some interesting, encouraging stuff in there.
Encouraging = Cain, Bailey, Jayce.
Not encouraging = Koby, Markus (6 turnovers, 5 points?)
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Encouraging = Cain, Bailey, Jayce.
Not encouraging = Koby, Markus (6 turnovers, 5 points?)
Agree with this. However using a Euro ball might've screwed with Markus's shot? sortve difficult to say without the watching the whole match
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It's one exhibition, and Howard also had 7 assists. Something tells be he'll be okay come November.
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It's one exhibition, and Howard also had 7 assists. Something tells be he'll be okay come November.
Agreed. Not too concerned about Markus, not too excited about Cain or Jayce.
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It's one exhibition, and Howard also had 7 assists. Something tells be he'll be okay come November.
Yep, remember when Markus was on triple double watch against UMBC finishing with 15, 8, and 7, and all people cared about was his 2-12 from three?
The most important stat IMO was that Theo, Ed, and JJ combined for 55 minutes and only 6 fouls. Obviously consider the level of competition, but it tells me that they can play together and play without fouling.
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Maybe an offseason of being called a cancer has taken a toll on his shooting
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Encouraging = Cain, Bailey, Jayce.
Not encouraging = Koby, Markus (6 turnovers, 5 points?)
I would put Markus as encouraging. He only took 8 shots.
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MU trailed 26-14 at the end of the first, but started the second with a 6-0 run to get back into it and tied the game at 35 on a Howard to Morrow layup.
Not as much streamed content today as yesterday. Based on highlights and the start of the game, Markus is looking good driving. He did have one turnover in the 5 minutes they streamed on Twitter.
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Agreed. Not too concerned about Markus, not too excited about Cain or Jayce.
Exactly. Cool experience for the guys but they’re basically playing Savannah St. Every day. I’m guessing the main reason to do this is for extended coaching time.
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https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160975109361766400?s=21
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MU outscored Barcelona 30-15 in the second quarter and lead 44-41 at the break. Howard with 15 points to lead the way. Anim chipped in 11.
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Is that even a regulation floor? Looks like a high school gym.
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Halftime box score:
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160975656336781312?s=21
In addition to Markus & Sacar, Morrow's 6 pts/3 reb/2 steals is nice.
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Is that even a regulation floor? Looks like a high school gym.
Looks like they should be playing shirts and skins......
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Throw it down Ed!
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160983068921851908?s=21
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Morrow has looked dominant on the offensive glass in a few highlights posted, including this one hand putback jam:
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160983068921851908?s=21
Howard with 26 and MU leads 72-62.
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80-76 with 3:45 to go.
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Marquette wins 88-79. Howard leads all scorers with 28.
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Undefeated season still alive!
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What is the quality of these teams? Are they powerhouses over there or what
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What is the quality of these teams? Are they powerhouses over there or what
Nobody knows..... ..that's why you don't put much emphasis on the results good or bad.
Here is the box.......tough day for Jamal.....and Jayce.
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160989611465699329?s=21
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Nobody knows..... ..that's why you don't put much emphasis on the results good or bad.
Here is the box.......tough day for Jamal.....and Jayce.
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160989611465699329?s=21
Someone has to know :-\
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Nobody knows..... ..that's why you don't put much emphasis on the results good or bad.
Here is the box.......tough day for Jamal.....and Jayce.
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1160989611465699329?s=21
Jayce had 6 rebounds and team was +9 during his 15 minutes on the floor, so maybe not that tough even though he didn't score. -12 with Cain, though.
Just looking at the box, several players had very solid games, led by Markus with 28-8-7 despite still being a cancer.
Having said all that ...
These trips are about team bonding, and the coaches getting to work extra with the guys in a competitive situation. Glad our Warriors are there getting in their work.
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Seems safe to say Cain isn’t ever going to turn the corner. Great kid but he really hasn’t developed in any meaningful way
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We should be hitting the offensive boards very hard this year, much like Xavier typically does most years. The 3 bigs should be able to go all out without worrying about tiring or getting in foul trouble, knowing there are 2 other guys as reinforcements.
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Seems safe to say Cain isn’t ever going to turn the corner. Great kid but he really hasn’t developed in any meaningful way
So after 1 very good game and 1 clunker on the trip that is your conclusion?
Maybe we could give him a little more time before throwing him under the bus........just a thought.
You may turn out to be right but August of his junior year seems a little early to be writing off his career.
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Seems safe to say Cain isn’t ever going to turn the corner. Great kid but he really hasn’t developed in any meaningful way
It's August, FFS.
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What is the quality of these teams? Are they powerhouses over there or what
The Sant Julia All-Star teams Marquette played yesterday and today featured several of the same players -- including Amadou Diagne, Laurian Tarris and Mike Torres.
Torres currently competes in the LEB Oro (Gold) league. That's the second division of the Spanish basketball league system, generally considered one of the best leagues in Europe. Joan Pardina and Sergi Pino from today's team also compete in the LEB Oro.
Diagne and Tarris both play for a French team, Kayserberg, in the Alsace region. I couldn't find much information about the team, other than it seems to be 3rd division at best; only the first two divisions, LNB Pro A and LNB Pro B, are classified as professional.
Juli Garrote plays for Copa Catalunya in the Primera Division de Baloncesto, the fifth division of the Spanish basketball league system.
So pretty mixed. A handful of decent pros, but mostly amateurs. And I doubt many of them play together regularly. I wouldn't exactly call them powerhouses -- although today's team appears to be the stronger of the two opponents.
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Markus with 19 three pointers. <sigh>
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These teams are like the old Athletes in Action. They are put together for the intent of playing against schools playing over there. Essentially lower level professionals and academy players.
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He shoots 8 total times yesterdays. Gets his teammates involved with 7 assists. People complain about the turnovers.
He doesn't turn the ball over today. Shoots a lot. Scores 28. People complain he shoots too much.
Markus can't win unless he's flawless.
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He shoots 8 total times yesterdays. Gets his teammates involved with 7 assists. People complain about the turnovers.
He doesn't turn the ball over today. Shoots a lot. Scores 28. People complain he shoots too much.
Markus can't win unless he's flawless.
Yup. He's soon to be the all time leading scorer in Marquette basketball history and has never been anything but a class act. Yet we have Scoopers claiming he's a cancer. Very sad.
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I'm a big defender of Markus and never once have called him a cancer.
6/19 from 3 is a lot of three pointers. 26 shots total.
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I'm a big defender of Markus and never once have called him a cancer.
6/19 from 3 is a lot of three pointers. 26 shots total.
Yeah, I think one (1) poster suggested Markus was a cancer. He maybe repeated it once or twice when under an avalanche of attacks. One guy, one opinion, but now just about every post that mentions Markus from Wades, Chico, 82 and others has a derisive cancer reference. Often comes with a "2nd team All American" qualifier. If all of us who might have the temerity to critique Markus's play in the future stipulate that a) Markus is not a "cancer", b) Markus does not cause "cancer and c) Markus was a 2nd team AA last year can we stop with the snarky, redundant and borderline infantile "cancer" stuff?. You guys are better than this.
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I'm a big defender of Markus and never once have called him a cancer.
6/19 from 3 is a lot of three pointers. 26 shots total.
He wasn't that far away from a triple double, with 8 rebounds and 7 assists. A stat line of 28pts, 8rbs, 7asts and people are criticizing. Kind of crazy.
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These teams are like the old Athletes in Action. They are put together for the intent of playing against schools playing over there. Essentially lower level professionals and academy players.
Euro TBT
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The two players I was excited to follow on this trip were McEwen and Torrence. Both have had 2 pretty pedestrian outings so far it seems.
I’ve only watched a few minutes of the first game before the stream cut out but do either of these guys look like they will be major contributors this year?
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We should be hitting the offensive boards very hard this year, much like Xavier typically does most years. The 3 bigs should be able to go all out without worrying about tiring or getting in foul trouble, knowing there are 2 other guys as reinforcements.
I would just like to see us not go for every single block and actually get some defensive rebounds.
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Who on this team can create for themselves whenever needed? Markus. Right now I don’t see anyone else. Sacar and Koby are going to be called on to do some heavy lifting.
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Seems safe to say Cain isn’t ever going to turn the corner. Great kid but he really hasn’t developed in any meaningful way
He may have, his game one was great, but it appears is twin Jawal played in game two, so I still have hope. BTW...I love Jemal, hope he crushes it this year.
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He may have, his game one was great, but it appears is twin Jawal played in game two, so I still have hope. BTW...I love Jemal, hope he crushes it this year.
Until he improves his handle, he is mostly a catch and shoot guy....
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He shoots 8 total times yesterdays. Gets his teammates involved with 7 assists. People complain about the turnovers.
He doesn't turn the ball over today. Shoots a lot. Scores 28. People complain he shoots too much.
Markus can't win unless he's flawless.
2-8, 5 points, 7 assists, 6 turnovers is miles from flawless. Nobody (least of all Markus) in our starting backcourt would be happy/satisfied with that line.
Today was much better.
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Until he improves his handle, he is mostly a catch and shoot guy....
And an excellent rebounder. I’ll take catch and shoot.
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He may have, his game one was great, but it appears is twin Jawal played in game two, so I still have hope. BTW...I love Jemal, hope he crushes it this year.
Must be triplets, as our Cain is Jamal.
I think he’s gonna really surprise people this year.
I like that Symir grabbed 3 boards in only 9 minutes. Koby committed 5 fouls...not sure if that’s aggressive D or if he got called for a couple charges. Also, don’t like that we got reverse Buzz-ed (opponent attempted more free throws than we made).
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2-8, 5 points, 7 assists, 6 turnovers is miles from flawless. Nobody (least of all Markus) in our starting backcourt would be happy/satisfied with that line.
Today was much better.
markus was really trying to get everyone.involved in the first game. He passed up.quite a few "open" shots.
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Creighton went 2-1 on their tour in Australia.
https://www.omaha.com/creighton/mens-basketball/creighton-uses-second-quarter-surge-to-win-big-in-final/article_52635268-3395-5a17-9170-d04042d8a3b9.html
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Creighton went 2-1 on their tour in Australia.
https://www.omaha.com/creighton/mens-basketball/creighton-uses-second-quarter-surge-to-win-big-in-final/article_52635268-3395-5a17-9170-d04042d8a3b9.html
Neat.
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Yup. He's soon to be the all time leading scorer in Marquette basketball history and has never been anything but a class act. Yet we have Scoopers claiming he's a cancer. Very sad.
When did Old Man Hauser join Scoop?
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Creighton went 2-1 on their tour in Australia.
https://www.omaha.com/creighton/mens-basketball/creighton-uses-second-quarter-surge-to-win-big-in-final/article_52635268-3395-5a17-9170-d04042d8a3b9.html
Classic Herman. No one cares.....if Creighton goes 3-0 and 0-3 makes no difference in non-con much less a Euro Tour, but it’s a thread entitled Foreign Tour so you just couldn’t resist.
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Doesn't bother me. Gives perspective. Sometimes, American college teams lose.
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Classic Herman. No one cares.....if Creighton goes 3-0 and 0-3 makes no difference in non-con much less a Euro Tour, but it’s a thread entitled Foreign Tour so you just couldn’t resist.
I'm just happy he didn't start a separate thread for the Creighton foreign tour.
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Doesn't bother me. Gives perspective. Sometimes, American college teams lose.
+1, but this forum always needs its whipping boy
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Final game tips off in just under 2 hours.
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Final game tips off in just under 2 hours.
Is there a video stream?
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Is there a video stream?
No. They may stream segments on social media though.
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Markus sitting out today.
must be icing down the shooting elbow
early highlight:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1162419735444828160
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Streams are up on Twitter and IG
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Watching the Twitter feed. Really nice underhand scoop alley-oop from Koby to Theo, and Sacar is looking quick and strong on drives.
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25-11 at the end of the first. Morrow with 7 points and 3 rebounds.
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Markus sitting out today.
must be icing down the shooting elbow
early highlight:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1162419735444828160
Yep, those repetitive motion injuries can be killers.
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45-19 at the half. Morrow leads the way with 12 points, Sacar has 8.
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Looks like they are playing a pick up team from the local park.
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Looks like they are playing a pick up team from the local park.
Wonder if the staff noticed this and saw it as a good opportunity for the team to get some minutes without Markus. Give other guys more opportunities.
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Marquette up 79-35 at the end of three. Sacar has 18 to lead all scorers. Cruising to our third win over a team of professional All-Stars, clearly we are going to win the National Championship this year.
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Marquette up 79-35 at the end of three. Sacar has 18 to lead all scorers. Cruising to our third win over a team of professional All-Stars, clearly we are going to win the National Championship this year.
Gave up 19 points at half but 16 in the third. Suicides after?
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111-47 final score. MU Twitter says almost everyone was in double figures.
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Can't make out everybody on the court in all the videos. But Wojo and the coaches are definitely taking a good look at two-big lineups.
In the second game clip, Jayce and Ed are playing together. They're also playing together in the extended video (3:25) later down the page. And again a couple clips later.
Then we see Jayce and Theo playing together in the longest clip (5:27) at the end. This lineup features Koby, Sacar, Jamal, Theo and Jayce.
How'd the two-big offense do?
Looking at all those clips, I counted a total of 15 possessions. The team shot 8-13 (61.5%) from 2-point range -- including a sick alley-oop dunk from Koby to Theo on the pick and roll, along with several breakaway layups/dunks.
Just two 3-point attempts (both misses). Five offensive rebounds, two fouls drawn, and 2 turnovers. Feel free to correct me if I messed something up (which is quite likely).
Takeaways
With two bigs in the game, the defensive focus seems to be on bigs initiating the break at every opportunity -- even on rebounds -- with guards looking to drive the basket for layups, dunks and fouls. I actually don't remember seeing any steals.
In the set offense, the emphasis on inside play (drives and post-ups versus three-point shooting) and offensive rebounding was striking.
Clearly, MU was not facing a very competitive team. But getting an early look at two-big lineups is intriguing, to say the least.
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BTW, watching a handful of brief video clips shot with a smart phone and posted to Twitter is a very disjointed, unsatisfying way to appreciate Marquette basketball. I know it's just a scrimmage. But if you're going to put it online, why not do it right?
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BTW, watching a handful of brief video clips shot with a smart phone and posted to Twitter is a very disjointed, unsatisfying way to appreciate Marquette basketball. I know it's just a scrimmage. But if you're going to put it online, why not do it right?
Originally they were not going to stream but we at least got something thanks to another successful Scoop campaign
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Yeah, I know something is better than nothing.
I looked back at the box scores for the first two games. Theo, Ed and Jayce combined for 55 and 54 minutes, respectively. That means MU was playing a 2-big lineup for at least 14 minutes in each game -- or roughly 35% of the time.
Individual stats (minutes and scoring) for those 2 games:
Markus 27.0 mpg, 16.5 ppg
Sacar 25.5 mpg, 14.0 ppg
Koby 22.5 mpg, 5.5 ppg
Brendan 22.0 mpg, 10.0 ppg
Ed 19.5 mpg, 12.0 ppg
Theo 19.5 mpg, 11.5 ppg
Jamal 18.5 mpg, 8.0 ppg
Jayce 15.5 mpg, 6.5 ppg
Symir 15.0 mpg, 1.0 ppg
Dexter 14.0 mpg, 2.0 ppg
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Markus sitting out today.
must be icing down the shooting elbow
early highlight:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1162419735444828160
The team sent Wojo another letter that he is hogging the ball.
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https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1164191326235189248?s=20
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Sounds like the twin towers strategy will indeed be in play. It will be interesting to watch. I've said for awhile now that this team is more talented on paper than last season....but it will require a major switch in offensive philosophy from past seasons in order for it to work. We will see if Wojo and co are up to the task.
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I'm not sure it's more talented.....it's more physical and athletic.........probably less skilled without The Hausers.
It will be interesting........can't see the offense being as good but the defense and rebounding should/could be better.
Forcing more turnovers and taking better care of the ball are the keys for me. Need to get some easy points from the defense that we didn't get last season.
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Marquette also lost two of its better Free Throw shooters as well. Getting inside, getting fouled, gotta knock down the free throws.
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I'm not sure it's more talented.....it's more physical and athletic.........probably less skilled without The Hausers.
It will be interesting........can't see the offense being as good but the defense and rebounding should/could be better.
Forcing more turnovers and taking better care of the ball are the keys for me. Need to get some easy points from the defense that we didn't get last season.
Solid Comments.
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Marquette also lost two of its better Free Throw shooters as well. Getting inside, getting fouled, gotta knock down the free throws.
Likely to have more FT opportunities this upcoming season at a lower % made. Could be a wash? Sam is a terrific FT shooter, but he only averaged 2.3 attempts per game last season (while Joey was slightly higher at 2.7).
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Likely to have more FT opportunities this upcoming season at a lower % made. Could be a wash? Sam is a terrific FT shooter, but he only averaged 2.3 attempts per game last season (while Joey was slightly higher at 2.7).
Yep. that was a missed opportunity, with regards to attempts per game. In those games once in a while where Sam would be near scoreless at half, I often felt getting to the line and knocking down a couple would get him going a little bit overall. Villanova is a good example of a program that churns out many strong free throw shooters up and down the lineup over the years.
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I'm not sure it's more talented.....it's more physical and athletic.........probably less skilled without The Hausers.
It will be interesting........can't see the offense being as good but the defense and rebounding should/could be better.
Forcing more turnovers and taking better care of the ball are the keys for me. Need to get some easy points from the defense that we didn't get last season.
If it was possible to agree 1,000% with something, that's how much I would agree with your last paragraph, MuMark.
We had frustratingly few points on the break last year -- very few steals that became layups, very few rebound/outlet/transition-3 type hoops.
Frankly, it's amazing our season was as successful as it was given how few easy buckets we scored and how many turnovers we committed.
Hoping all of that changes significantly this season.
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I feel like we had very few breakaway/easy baskets the last few years. Hopefully with more uptempo and generating turnovers, we can get some more easy buckets to mitigate some of the shooting lost.
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I think Wojo's defensive philosophy emphasizes forcing difficult shots over forcing turnovers.
Forcing difficult shots is about disrupting your opponent's ability to efficiently execute the offense. It favors long, quick, athletic players who can:
1) play aggressive, man-to-man defense without fouling;
2) shut down/contain driving and passing lanes;
3) provide help when needed and still get back to their man;
4) defend multiple positions;
5) contest high-percentage shots;
6) rebound misses, limiting the opponent to one shot; and
7) maximize transition opportunities with quick outlet passes to guards/wings
The better MU's defense can shut down and contain driving and passing lanes, the more turnovers we'll force (and the more transition opportunities we'll have). I also expect to see Marquette initiate transition offense following rebounds more often -- looking to exploit opportunities for Markus, Koby, Brendan, Jamal, etc. to make aggressive drives to the basket in the open court.
That's not the same as making forcing turnovers your main defensive priority. To me, that suggests gambling for steals -- a high-risk, high-reward strategy.
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I think Wojo's defensive philosophy emphasizes forcing difficult shots over forcing turnovers.
Forcing difficult shots is about disrupting your opponent's ability to efficiently execute the offense. It favors long, quick, athletic players who can:
1) play aggressive, man-to-man defense without fouling;
2) shut down/contain driving and passing lanes;
3) provide help when needed and still get back to their man;
4) defend multiple positions;
5) contest high-percentage shots;
6) rebound misses, limiting the opponent to one shot; and
7) maximize transition opportunities with quick outlet passes to guards/wings
The better MU's defense can shut down and contain driving and passing lanes, the more turnovers we'll force (and the more transition opportunities we'll have). I also expect to see Marquette initiate transition offense following rebounds more often -- looking to exploit opportunities for Markus, Koby, Brendan, Jamal, etc. to make aggressive drives to the basket in the open court.
That's not the same as making forcing turnovers your main defensive priority. To me, that suggests gambling for steals -- a high-risk, high-reward strategy.
All of this is reasonable, Marcus.
I'm happy to accept the steals and easy transition baskets Wojo's way!
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Was the foreign trip an “excellent adventure “?
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Sounds like the twin towers strategy will indeed be in play. It will be interesting to watch. I've said for awhile now that this team is more talented on paper than last season....but it will require a major switch in offensive philosophy from past seasons in order for it to work. We will see if Wojo and co are up to the task.
So on paper Jayce, Symir and Dexter (new additions) are more talented than Matt, Sam and Joey (losses)? Please explain.
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So on paper Jayce, Symir and Dexter (new additions) are more talented than Matt, Sam and Joey (losses)? Please explain.
Jayce, Symir, Dexter, Koby and Greg vs. Matt, Sam, Joey, and Chartouny? One side is definitely better at shooting, one side is definitely more athletic. It depends on the system that you run. Both types of players can be effective. Can Wojo make the system change to get the most out of the new guys?
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So on paper Jayce, Symir and Dexter (new additions) are more talented than Matt, Sam and Joey (losses)? Please explain.
You can add Greg and Koby given neither of them actually played last year.
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So on paper Jayce, Symir and Dexter (new additions) are more talented than Matt, Sam and Joey (losses)? Please explain.
Your math isn't right.
Koby+Greg+Jayce+Symir+Dexter+an offseason of growth for Markus/Sacar/Ed/ Theo/Jamal/Brendan > Loss of Sam/Joey/Joe/Matt
Compared to the rest of the NCAA, Marquette is returning a lot more talent than the rest.
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So on paper Jayce, Symir and Dexter (new additions) are more talented than Matt, Sam and Joey (losses)? Please explain.
Expect very little from Dexter or Symir.
Lost virtually nothing in Matt and Joe.
Returnees (Markus, Brendan B, Theo, Ed, Jamal, Sacar) should show improvement)
Additions (Jayce, Greg and Koby) are (for me) question marks. They will be key.
Subtractions (Sam and Joey) are huge. Sam was the 28th most valuable college player per Value Added stats. Joey was only #605, but he was our third best guy and only a freshman.
We have the most dynamic scorer in college basketball, a likely 1st team AA. Nobody else returning was a top 800 value added player. If guys step up we could be very good. If not, we'll be "OK". If Markus gets hurt, look out below.
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Your math isn't right.
Koby+Greg+Jayce+Symir+Dexter+an offseason of growth for Markus/Sacar/Ed/ Theo/Jamal/Brendan > Loss of Sam/Joey/Joe/Matt
Compared to the rest of the NCAA, Marquette is returning a lot more talent than the rest.
Well, don't forget that Sam and Joey probably would have improved, too. If Joey improved as much from frosh to soph as Sam did, he'd have become a heck of a player, at least offensively.
So here's the actual equation IMHO:
Koby+Greg+Jayce+Symir+Dexter+an offseason of growth for Markus/Sacar/Ed/ Theo/Jamal/Brendan OR Koby+Greg+Symir+Dexter+an offseason of growth for Markus/Sam/Joey/Sacar/Ed/Theo/Jamal/Brendan
Pretty sure I'd take Door No. 2. (I'm assuming we don't bring in Jayce if Hausershima never happens, but maybe we still do. If so, Door No. 2 is even better.)
But yes, we will be returning a lot of talent, especially if the key players improve as much as we all hope.
Agree with Lenny that we should temper our expectations for Symir and Dexter this season. Maybe Greg, Jamal and Brendan, too.
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I think there's some apples and oranges comparisons going on. Both of the following can be true:
- We would be a better team in 2019-20 with the Hausers than we will be without them.
- We should be a better team in 2019-20 without the Hausers than we were in 2018-19 with them.
This team with the additions of Jayce, Symir, and Koby coupled with the development of the returning players can be better than last year's team, but we would be better still if we had the Hausers.
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I think there's some apples and oranges comparisons going on. Both of the following can be true:
- We would be a better team in 2019-20 with the Hausers than we will be without them.
- We should be a better team in 2019-20 without the Hausers than we were in 2018-19 with them.
This team with the additions of Jayce, Symir, and Koby coupled with the development of the returning players can be better than last year's team, but we would be better still if we had the Hausers.
Reasonable.
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Well, don't forget that Sam and Joey probably would have improved, too. If Joey improved as much from frosh to soph as Sam did, he'd have become a heck of a player, at least offensively.
I didn't say the current roster was better than what the roster would have been if Sam and Joey had stayed. I said I think the actual 19-20 roster will be better than the actual 18-19 roster was.
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plus the talk that if the hausers stayed, others would have left. ... which makes me wonder what the team looks like cuz we would have different off season transfers interested... presumably anyway.
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Agree that our returning players and the addition of new talent are both key factors. Another is how everyone fits together and plays as a team.
Will the whole be greater than the sum of its parts? Whether it's greater length, quickness and athleticism, stronger rebounding, a more balanced offense, better team cohesion -- or some combination of all of the above -- that could be the biggest difference-maker this season.
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I didn't say the current roster was better than what the roster would have been if Sam and Joey had stayed. I said I think the actual 19-20 roster will be better than the actual 18-19 roster was.
I understand, and I certainly wasn't trying to misrepresent what you said. I was just extrapolating a little further.
I also agree with your thesis ... if guys improve as much as we think they will and if Koby is the real deal.
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https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/2125598001?__twitter_impression=true
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I didn't say the current roster was better than what the roster would have been if Sam and Joey had stayed. I said I think the actual 19-20 roster will be better than the actual 18-19 roster was.
I’m really not sure how this went so badly over people’s heads.
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I didn't say the current roster was better than what the roster would have been if Sam and Joey had stayed. I said I think the actual 19-20 roster will be better than the actual 18-19 roster was.
+3. Dead on
This is by far Wojo's most balanced roster, especially in regards to depth, athleticism, and match-up flexibility.