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Title: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 11, 2019, 07:12:19 AM
Looks like Tiger is primed and ready to claim his spot at the top of the golf world. So far in his return we have seen Spieth falter from the Intimidation. Looks like Rory caves a few weeks ago under the pressure too. Don’t believe many of the modern guys will have the ability mentally to hold him off . Tiger still hits shots no one else can.

I think the only guy who won’t crack under the pressure is Koepka.That Cat is a stone cold golfing assasin in the majors.  However , Tiger has the knowledge edge on him at Augusta.

I am looking forward to seeing Tiger wearing the green jacket on Sunday .  I think he will win by Two strokes.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2019, 07:43:47 AM
Looks like Tiger is primed and ready to claim his spot at the top of the golf world. So far in his return we have seen Spieth falter from the Intimidation. Looks like Rory caves a few weeks ago under the pressure too. Don’t believe many of the modern guys will have the ability mentally to hold him off . Tiger still hits shots no one else can.

I think the only guy who won’t crack under the pressure is Koepka.That Cat is a stone cold golfing assasin in the majors.  However , Tiger has the knowledge edge on him at Augusta.

I am looking forward to seeing Tiger wearing the green jacket on Sunday .  I think he will win by Two strokes.

Just keep predicting this every major tournament, 9-9-9. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

The Intimidation always works. Just ask Lucas Bjerregaard.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 11, 2019, 08:03:33 AM
Tiger hasn't shown anything this year.  Not feeling it.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jsglow on April 11, 2019, 08:37:49 AM
Looks like Tiger is primed and ready to claim his spot at the top of the golf world. So far in his return we have seen Spieth falter from the Intimidation. Looks like Rory caves a few weeks ago under the pressure too. Don’t believe many of the modern guys will have the ability mentally to hold him off . Tiger still hits shots no one else can.

I think the only guy who won’t crack under the pressure is Koepka.That Cat is a stone cold golfing assasin in the majors.  However , Tiger has the knowledge edge on him at Augusta.

I am looking forward to seeing Tiger wearing the green jacket on Sunday .  I think he will win by Two strokes.

 ::)
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Goose on April 11, 2019, 09:37:30 AM
Herman

I think this is the week Tiger gets it done as well. If he plays well today and is not chasing, I think he delivers the good on Sunday.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: JWags85 on April 11, 2019, 12:32:44 PM
Tiger the assassin has taken the golf world by storm, everyone has crumbled and withered in his presence so much that he has won...1 tournament.  He's playing well again, but this narrative of the all powerful world beating Tiger is so played out.

ESPN.com today
"Tiger starts fast"
"Tiger off to a strong start"

Hadnt been paying attention, figured wow, he must be leading them out....nope, hes even through 9 and 3 strokes back.  ::)
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 11, 2019, 02:35:56 PM
Here is my tried and true Tiger formula for success:

The only thing in the way of Tiger winning is amount of players ahead of him. He then usually halves that amount each of the first three days and then wins it on the back nine.

So if he is in top 20 or better day one , then day two top 10 day three and day three top 5 . Makes up the 5 by the 10th hole and then everyone collapses down the stretch .
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 11, 2019, 02:39:12 PM
Except that his m.o. was to get a lead the first three days.  Never won a major with a big Sunday charge.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: JWags85 on April 11, 2019, 02:58:32 PM
Here is my tried and true Tiger formula for success:

The only thing in the way of Tiger winning is amount of players ahead of him. He then usually halves that amount each of the first three days and then wins it on the back nine.

So if he is in top 20 or better day one , then day two top 10 day three and day three top 5 . Makes up the 5 by the 10th hole and then everyone collapses down the stretch .

Super true, and DEAD on.  Just the way it played out in the British when Molinari, Kisner, and Schauffele imploded with Tiger on their heels.  And yet again, at Bellerive, Koepka couldn't handle Tiger stalking him and fell apart.  No reason to believe it will be any different at Augusta.

Tried, true, and 60% of the time it works every time
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2019, 03:50:47 PM
By "The Indimidation," maybe 9-9-9 means Tiger gets intimidated time and again.

Actually, he's off to a nice start. Hope it continues. Any major is better with Tiger in the hunt on Sunday.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: CreightonWarrior on April 11, 2019, 03:54:21 PM
Driver and irons were great, pitting was not. Lots of golf to be played
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 11, 2019, 04:07:43 PM
Tiger hasn't shown anything this year.  Not feeling it.

I don't think this is accurate. He has played in 5 tournaments. He's finished 30th, 20th, 15th, 10th, and lost in the QF of match play.

He has been a legitimate top 15 player in the world. Is he going to win the Masters? Probably not. But Tiger is good at golf again.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: JWags85 on April 11, 2019, 04:17:30 PM
I don't think this is accurate. He has played in 5 tournaments. He's finished 30th, 20th, 15th, 10th, and lost in the QF of match play.

He has been a legitimate top 15 player in the world. Is he going to win the Masters? Probably not. But Tiger is good at golf again.

He also was 10, 11, 8, and 13 strokes back, respectively, in each of those tourneys.  He's been consistently pretty good, but not a major threat or a force of nature.

Is he good at golf again? Sure, nobody is arguing that.  It just feels like golf fans or observers are falling into 2 camps, Tiger fanboys giddy with excitement that he's back playing at a good level, and those who are realistic.  The former, ESPN included, are still handling him like he's 30 years old laying waste to the field when thats not the case at all.  He could absolutely win a major, but its not more likely than about 20-25 other guys in the field.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 11, 2019, 04:26:07 PM
Agree with most of what you say. I cheer for Tiger and hope he wins but I never expect him to. Too many great golfers out there today.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 11, 2019, 05:31:06 PM
He also was 10, 11, 8, and 13 strokes back, respectively, in each of those tourneys.  He's been consistently pretty good, but not a major threat or a force of nature.

Is he good at golf again? Sure, nobody is arguing that.  It just feels like golf fans or observers are falling into 2 camps, Tiger fanboys giddy with excitement that he's back playing at a good level, and those who are realistic.  The former, ESPN included, are still handling him like he's 30 years old laying waste to the field when thats not the case at all.  He could absolutely win a major, but its not more likely than about 20-25 other guys in the field.

You forgot 'and has been injured'.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: D'Lo Brown on April 11, 2019, 06:14:24 PM
I like Thai John Daly.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 11, 2019, 06:43:22 PM
Here is my tried and true Tiger formula for success:

The only thing in the way of Tiger winning is amount of players ahead of him. He then usually halves that amount each of the first three days and then wins it on the back nine.

So if he is in top 20 or better day one , then day two top 10 day three and day three top 5 . Makes up the 5 by the 10th hole and then everyone collapses down the stretch .

When has that ever happened for Tiger in a major? Further, is it commonly how he wins his majors?
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 11, 2019, 07:13:09 PM
Tiger is in great shape. Right now the battle is between him and Koepka. Everyone else will collapse . He is 4 strokes back . I think he can narrow the gap to 2 after tomorrow .
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 11, 2019, 07:57:54 PM
Tiger missed many "makeable" birdie putts today. Half of those find the bottom of the cup, the cat is the leader in the clubhouse, hey?
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MU82 on April 11, 2019, 08:05:52 PM
Tiger missed many "makeable" birdie putts today. Half of those find the bottom of the cup, the cat is the leader in the clubhouse, hey?

How many times has that lament been said over the years? 500? 5000? More?
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Jockey on April 11, 2019, 08:56:05 PM
Here is my tried and true Tiger formula for success:

The only thing in the way of Tiger winning is amount of players ahead of him. He then usually halves that amount each of the first three days and then wins it on the back nine.

So if he is in top 20 or better day one , then day two top 10 day three and day three top 5 . Makes up the 5 by the 10th hole and then everyone collapses down the stretch .

Name one Major he has won with that formula.

As a matter of fact, he has NEVER won a major with that formula. I believe he has been tied or ahead after 54 holes every time he won.

On six occasions (most recently at the 2013 Open at Muirfield), Woods was within two shots of the 54-hole lead, only to come up short.

IOW, your formula has never worked even once in his career.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Jockey on April 11, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
BTW, my picks before the start were Rahm, Day, or Koepke.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 11, 2019, 09:08:01 PM
BTW, my picks before the start were Rahm, Day, or Koepke.
You picked well.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 12, 2019, 05:50:11 AM
Name one Major he has won with that formula.

As a matter of fact, he has NEVER won a major with that formula. I believe he has been tied or ahead after 54 holes every time he won.

On six occasions (most recently at the 2013 Open at Muirfield), Woods was within two shots of the 54-hole lead, only to come up short.

IOW, your formula has never worked even once in his career.

Tried and true!
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: mu03eng on April 12, 2019, 12:56:05 PM
Zach Johnson is every casual golfer right now.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: CreightonWarrior on April 12, 2019, 06:11:48 PM
Tiger should have a 4-5 stroke lead with all the bunnies he’s missed. At least it’s not affecting his drives and iron game. If he keeps it up and finds his putter it could be over tomorrow.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 12, 2019, 06:14:16 PM
That is a helluva leader board.   
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 12, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Here is my tried and true Tiger formula for success:

The only thing in the way of Tiger winning is amount of players ahead of him. He then usually halves that amount each of the first three days and then wins it on the back nine.

So if he is in top 20 or better day one , then day two top 10 day three and day three top 5 . Makes up the 5 by the 10th hole and then everyone collapses down the stretch .
Tiger following the formula . Day one he was tie 11 day two halves it so now down to tie 6 after tomorrow he should be in the top 3 or better.

The tournament is over and just make sure the green jacket fits.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 12, 2019, 09:08:47 PM
Tiger following the formula . Day one he was tie 11 day two halves it so now down to tie 6 after tomorrow he should be in the top 3 or better.

The tournament is over and just make sure the green jacket fits.

I won't argue tiger's situation in this tournament.

Please provide evidence of him ever winning a major by your method
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MU82 on April 12, 2019, 09:47:38 PM
Tiger following the formula . Day one he was tie 11 day two halves it so now down to tie 6 after tomorrow he should be in the top 3 or better.

The tournament is over and just make sure the green jacket fits.

He's actually not following the formula at all.

But I'm always glad to see Tiger in the hunt.

Great leaderboard, and I'm looking forward to watching a lot of golf this weekend. I hope the weather cooperates.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 12, 2019, 09:49:52 PM
I won't argue tiger's situation in this tournament.

Please provide evidence of him ever winning a major by your method
The method is he halves the amount of players in front of him after each round. That is he improves on the weekends when it matters. I just picked out the top 20 as a starting point. Most of the time he starts out higher and has less players to pass.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: JWags85 on April 13, 2019, 11:19:33 AM
The method is he halves the amount of players in front of him after each round. That is he improves on the weekends when it matters. I just picked out the top 20 as a starting point. Most of the time he starts out higher and has less players to pass.

You're just making stuff up now.  And has been proved in this thread that he doesn't "win" by the method you described.

The 5 guys ahead of him on the leaderboard all have wins in majors.  2 have green jackets, 2 of the others "crumbled" when Tiger appeared, oops, took him head on last year and smoked him.  And the world #1, DJ, is tied with him.  Set up for a great weekend of golf, ratings will be fantastic.  But continue to gloss over that with your inane, uninformed fanboy nonsense.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 13, 2019, 11:26:50 AM
You're just making stuff up now.  And has been proved in this thread that he doesn't "win" by the method you described.

The 5 guys ahead of him on the leaderboard all have wins in majors.  2 have green jackets, 2 of the others "crumbled" when Tiger appeared, oops, took him head on last year and smoked him.  And the world #1, DJ, is tied with him.  Set up for a great weekend of golf, ratings will be fantastic.  But continue to gloss over that with your inane, uninformed fanboy nonsense.
Tiger will end up the day around 10 under and should be in the final group  heading into the last day.

Augusta is Tigers house and he is back in form. Tiger = Jordan , Babe Ruth level of dominance.

No one can hit the kind of shots Tiger can mich less under pressure . The accurate very high Long shots into tough holes . Think 11 or the scoring opportunities on 13 and 15.  His short game mastery eliminates big numbers.

Koepka and Day have good ability and I put them in the David Duval category when Duval was great. That is close but not enough to beat Tiger at his best.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: nyg on April 13, 2019, 11:41:22 AM
Tiger will end up the day around 10 under and should be in the final group  heading into the last day.

Augusta is Tigers house and he is back in form. Tiger = Jordan , Babe Ruth level of dominance.

No one can hit the kind of shots Tiger can mich less under pressure . The accurate very high Long shots into tough holes . Think 11 or the scoring opportunities on 13 and 15.  His short game mastery eliminates big numbers.

Koepka and Day have good ability and I put them in the David Duval category when Duval was great. That is close but not enough to beat Tiger at his best.

Tiger can hit all the long great shots, all day long, but he has to put the ball in the hole.  He has missed eight putts within ten feet, five of them within six feet.  He made two bombs to offset and the greens were slow after the short rain delay. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.  Could say that for half the field if eight putts would have gone in for some player.  Tiger was Jordan, was Babe Ruth, was....fill in the blank. He has not won a major since what, 2008 and the Masters since 2005.  Koepka is like Duval, not really.  He has won three majors in a year and a half.  My goodness. 

Look, Tiger is playing great and if the putts fall, he is dangerous, but like 85 stated, the leaderboard is filled with the best golfers on the planet and they not going to be intimidated by Tiger one bit.  Those days are over.  Plus, Tigers playing with Poulter, who will drive him nuts.  I will actually be rooting for Tiger, but lots of young guns and elite at the top.  I’ll go with Jason Day if his back holds up. 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: reinko on April 13, 2019, 11:54:55 AM
Just put a bit of coin on Day at 10-1 and Adam Scott at 11-1
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 13, 2019, 12:17:21 PM
Tiger can hit all the long great shots, all day long, but he has to put the ball in the hole.  He has missed eight putts within ten feet, five of them within six feet.  He made two bombs to offset and the greens were slow after the short rain delay. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.  Could say that for half the field if eight putts would have gone in for some player.  Tiger was Jordan, was Babe Ruth, was....fill in the blank. He has not won a major since what, 2008 and the Masters since 2005.  Koepka is like Duval, not really.  He has won three majors in a year and a half.  My goodness. 

Look, Tiger is playing great and if the putts fall, he is dangerous, but like 85 stated, the leaderboard is filled with the best golfers on the planet and they not going to be intimidated by Tiger one bit.  Those days are over.  Plus, Tigers playing with Poulter, who will drive him nuts.  I will actually be rooting for Tiger, but lots of young guns and elite at the top.  I’ll go with Jason Day if his back holds up.
Koepka is definitely calm under pressure situations. Will be interesting to see how he performs now that he know this is the Tiger of old. Will he be a McIlroy, Spieth who have already capitulated to Tiger or will he be the Watson to Nicklaus mode? This weekend will provide some good answers to that question. Hopefully we will have a head to head shootout on the back 9 Sunday between the two of them.


Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 13, 2019, 12:42:57 PM
Phil with an epic jab at Kuchar.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Cheeks on April 13, 2019, 12:49:24 PM
Phil with an epic jab at Kuchar.

Phil's the last guy that should be jabbing
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 13, 2019, 12:57:52 PM
On some levels, but not when it comes to tipping.   It has to be sweet for Phil, as Kuchar usually owns him when it comes to insults.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: nyg on April 13, 2019, 01:01:50 PM
Early tee time players are shooting really low scores.  Augusta is wet and greens soft.  Long hitters will probably rule today.  Fun. 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Chili on April 13, 2019, 01:25:31 PM
Phil's the last guy that should be jabbing

At least he Phil doesn't stiff his caddies. Only the Lama can get away with not offering appropriate cash tips.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: DegenerateDish on April 13, 2019, 01:28:10 PM
At least he Phil doesn't stiff his caddies. Only the Lama can get away with not offering appropriate cash tips.

I caddied for Phil at the 1999 Western Open Pro Am, and can confirm I did not get stiffed.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 13, 2019, 01:34:24 PM
The method is he halves the amount of players in front of him after each round. That is he improves on the weekends when it matters. I just picked out the top 20 as a starting point. Most of the time he starts out higher and has less players to pass.

I asked you to provide evidence of tiger winning a major with this "method."

Can you provide the evidence please?
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: nyg on April 13, 2019, 02:09:57 PM
Koepka is definitely calm under pressure situations. Will be interesting to see how he performs now that he know this is the Tiger of old. Will he be a McIlroy, Spieth who have already capitulated to Tiger or will he be the Watson to Nicklaus mode? This weekend will provide some good answers to that question. Hopefully we will have a head to head shootout on the back 9 Sunday between the two of them.

Last time Tiger capitulated Spieth or Rory in a Major would be in 2008. Spieth was 15 years old and Rory was 19 years old.  Since then, Spieth and Rory have won at least six majors between them, Tiger none. 

Told you, low scoring, and Tiger plus one after five.  His formula not working too well yet. 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: nyg on April 13, 2019, 02:49:30 PM
Last time Tiger capitulated Spieth or Rory in a Major would be in 2008. Spieth was 15 years old and Rory was 19 years old.  Since then, Spieth and Rory have won at least six majors between them, Tiger none. 

Told you, low scoring, and Tiger plus one after five.  His formula not working too well yet.

And of course, Tiger birdies three in a row.  Good.
He has bogyed #5 three days in a row.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: JWags85 on April 13, 2019, 03:18:07 PM
Tiger will end up the day around 10 under and should be in the final group  heading into the last day.

Augusta is Tigers house and he is back in form. Tiger = Jordan , Babe Ruth level of dominance.

No one can hit the kind of shots Tiger can mich less under pressure . The accurate very high Long shots into tough holes . Think 11 or the scoring opportunities on 13 and 15.  His short game mastery eliminates big numbers.

Koepka and Day have good ability and I put them in the David Duval category when Duval was great. That is close but not enough to beat Tiger at his best.

So Koepka and Day couldn't beat him back in the mid 2000s, got it.  Get off this "at his best" nonsense.  Cause all it does is diminish his legacy and historic greatness.  Tiger at his best, as you claim he is now, hasn't won a full field tournament in 5+ years.

I would bet you $100 without flinching that Tiger won't be in the final group.  I bet he is at -9 and 2-3 shots back. 

Duval, lol, shows your golf knowledge.  Evidence from the 70s, a hot golfer for a 3-4 year period at Tiger's start, and then a bunch of inaccurate and flimsy comparisons.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 13, 2019, 03:44:23 PM
I caddied for Phil at the 1999 Western Open Pro Am, and can confirm I did not get stiffed.

no schmit der hey!  now that's pretty cool right there-need a thumbs up emoji
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 13, 2019, 05:24:08 PM
Great round for tiger. Molinari is stroking it though. Looks like he will end the round with a 3 or 4 shot lead.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 13, 2019, 05:27:37 PM
Get up early tomorrow.   They are going to endeavor to be done by 4 EDT.   Threesomes, split tees, early tee times.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 13, 2019, 05:52:51 PM
Tiger has this wrapped up. In the final group . Will shoot 68 tomorrow and grind out the victory .
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Anti-Dentite on April 13, 2019, 05:56:21 PM
Tiger has this wrapped up. In the final group . Will shoot 68 tomorrow and grind out the victory .
Wrap it in bacon. Go Tiger!
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: JWags85 on April 13, 2019, 06:14:55 PM
Tiger has this wrapped up. In the final group . Will shoot 68 tomorrow and grind out the victory .

68 gets him a playoff at best. Molinari goes out and shoots 69/70 in control just like at the British.

He better hope Koepka keeps putting like he did on 16-18, his ball striking was superb the back 9. And his response to that terrifying “Tiger roar” from 16 was a stone cold eagle to bounce back from that bogey on 14.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 13, 2019, 06:24:49 PM
early starters may have better conditions. as it gets later in the day, bad weather closes in=wind playing games with the ball and their heads.  setting up a melt down.  i like tony, but tiger has the experience.  kooch and koepka could steal one here

https://www.foxnews.com/us/southern-states-severe-weather-tornado-warnings
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MU82 on April 13, 2019, 06:34:12 PM
Get up early tomorrow.   They are going to endeavor to be done by 4 EDT.   Threesomes, split tees, early tee times.

I made my umpiring availability only through 3 so I could watch what I hoped would be a great finish to the Masters. Now, I could end up missing the entire effen thing! Damn! Maybe I'll get rained out tomorrow like I was today, though. That would be sweet.

Tiger has this wrapped up. In the final group . Will shoot 68 tomorrow and grind out the victory .

Silliness.

Molinari and Koepka are not only better than Tiger but they are completely unfazed by him.

Has he ever come back from even 2 strokes down to win a major? I don't think so. And the competition is so much better now.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: 🏀 on April 13, 2019, 07:18:02 PM
Planning on getting to Augusta tomorrow at 5:00am.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: D'Lo Brown on April 13, 2019, 08:52:03 PM
I caddied for Phil at the 1999 Western Open Pro Am, and can confirm I did not get stiffed.

Wow, that's awesome! Thanks for sharing that.

As a young kid growing up at that time and in the process of learning to play left-handed, I always spent a lot of time watching Phil. Surprising (or maybe not) how few good lefties there have been in my lifetime.

(PS, fun fact: Phil is actually right-handed, he just plays lefty)
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 13, 2019, 09:13:17 PM
Planning on getting to Augusta tomorrow at 5:00am.

that's awesome!  the lambeau field of golf!  i hate the term "bucket list" but augusta is on my top 5
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: DegenerateDish on April 13, 2019, 09:15:49 PM
I know this isn’t necessarily the thread for it, but I’d be curious if anyone else had either good caddy stories. I caddied at St. Charles Country Club from 13 through my senior year at MU. Best job I’ve ever had. Phil was biggest name I ever caddied for. Phil talked to Bones far more than me during that round, but experience of a lifetime otherwise. I was on a bag in a foursome with Hal Sutton, and other rounds with Tony Jacklin, Ray Floyd, and Billy Casper. Non tour pros Gene Keady, Dale Tallon, Howard Sudberry. I regularly caddied for Jim Skinner (and his wife Kathy) before he became CEO at McDonalds. Great sense of humor and always tipped very well.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: HansMoleman on April 13, 2019, 09:40:15 PM
Planning on getting to Augusta tomorrow at 5:00am.
I was there with my boy today, our first time.  We had our chairs in the front row on 16.  It was nuts when Tiger made his birdie
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: nyg on April 13, 2019, 10:02:16 PM
I was there with my boy today, our first time.  We had our chairs in the front row on 16.  It was nuts when Tiger made his birdie

Good for you and son.  I took mine some years ago and both of us talk about it each year the Masters is on, seems like yesterday.  Always remember how hilly it was, not one weed or piece of clover, even in rough, and how well treated by the staff there.  Spent lots of money at merchandise tent, lots..... 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 13, 2019, 10:02:39 PM
https://twitter.com/TheMasters/status/1117208344891219970?s=19
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 14, 2019, 12:02:32 AM
Planning on getting to Augusta tomorrow at 5:00am.

Nice weekend...

Sawgrass and Pimento Cheese sandwiches.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 14, 2019, 12:29:18 AM
I know this isn’t necessarily the thread for it, but I’d be curious if anyone else had either good caddy stories. I caddied at St. Charles Country Club from 13 through my senior year at MU. Best job I’ve ever had. Phil was biggest name I ever caddied for. Phil talked to Bones far more than me during that round, but experience of a lifetime otherwise. I was on a bag in a foursome with Hal Sutton, and other rounds with Tony Jacklin, Ray Floyd, and Billy Casper. Non tour pros Gene Keady, Dale Tallon, Howard Sudberry. I regularly caddied for Jim Skinner (and his wife Kathy) before he became CEO at McDonalds. Great sense of humor and always tipped very well.
Good enough question to have its own thread.   
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: JWags85 on April 14, 2019, 12:40:22 AM
I know this isn’t necessarily the thread for it, but I’d be curious if anyone else had either good caddy stories. I caddied at St. Charles Country Club from 13 through my senior year at MU. Best job I’ve ever had. Phil was biggest name I ever caddied for. Phil talked to Bones far more than me during that round, but experience of a lifetime otherwise. I was on a bag in a foursome with Hal Sutton, and other rounds with Tony Jacklin, Ray Floyd, and Billy Casper. Non tour pros Gene Keady, Dale Tallon, Howard Sudberry. I regularly caddied for Jim Skinner (and his wife Kathy) before he became CEO at McDonalds. Great sense of humor and always tipped very well.

I caddied in middle/HS at a CC in the North Shore suburbs of MKE.  Sal Bando was a member and a regular bag of mine when he was in the Brewers front office.  Nice guy, took insanely large divots.  Caddied for Bob Lanier one time when he was a guest.  Caddied for a guy one time who played on the Candian Tour at the time.  That was actually really fun, to watch someone of his caliber play from that perspective.

I started to fade out by the time I was a junior or so in HS.  I was doing other work and the caddy environment wasn't as fun.  But I had a younger cardiologist from Froedert (i think) who I caddied for in the club championship as a freshman.  He made a run, we had a lot of fun, and his daughter actually danced at the same studio as my sisters.  So he began requesting me.  He didn't play often, probably 10-15 times a summer, including club events/tourneys, but he would call me personally, and always gave me $100.  Which is notable cause I think caddie take home was $18+tip, so that was worth not schlepping around for luck of the draw (I knew plenty of guys who would give a $20 and be done with it).

Other good story, one of my best friends growing up became a golf pro.  Went to Ferris St, did the program, and was doing basically a co-op our senior year of college at a club near Phoenix.  I went to visit him for I think Presidents Day that year.  He had to work a decent amount so id hang out, but we asked me one night if I wanted to caddy the next day.  I kind of scoffed, but he told me it would be worth it, so I said sure.  Turns out he was friendly with a guy who played baseball at Georgia Tech and now was a businessman in the Phoenix area.  He was playing in a 3some that day with my buddy and his old college teammate...Mark Teixeira.  So I was on the bag for Teixeira.  Really nice guy, decent golfer, but HUGE in person and huge off the tee.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2019, 05:24:14 AM
that's awesome!  the lambeau field of golf!  i hate the term "bucket list" but augusta is on my top 5

I went for the first (and so far only) time in 2008. It is one of the very, very few places that I've been to that exceeded my extremely high expectations going in.

IMHO, much better experience than Wrigley or Lambeau or MSG, etc. Those places are iconic, but they're still only stadiums, fields and arenas. Augusta National is indescribably amazing.

Absolutely go if you get the chance.

Good for you and son.  I took mine some years ago and both of us talk about it each year the Masters is on, seems like yesterday.  Always remember how hilly it was, not one weed or piece of clover, even in rough, and how well treated by the staff there.  Spent lots of money at merchandise tent, lots..... 

I walked Augusta for 5 days, and the hilliness of the course was one of the things that surprised me because it doesn't come across that way on TV. And the pristine conditions. As you said, not a blade of grass out of place.

The merch was a rip-off, of course, but I also was surprised at how relatively inexpensive the food and soda was.

Very possible I'll never make it back there, but I'm glad to say that I went once -- even if it was perhaps the most boring competition with perhaps the worst champion (Trevor Immelman) in Masters history!
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Goose on April 14, 2019, 07:06:57 AM
I want to party like it is 1986 today!! I remember, like many, the entire day when Jack pulled off his last win at Augusta. Spent the entire evening celebrating at The Gym Bar with my wife.
This golf fan will be cheering for the what I believe to be, the greatest redemption story in the history of sports. Two years ago when Tiger was arrested I feared for his ability to ever have a happy life again. Win or lose, I hope my man enjoys the love of the fans today.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jsglow on April 14, 2019, 07:22:53 AM
I went to Augusta back about 1993.  TV doesn't come close to doing it justice.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: warriorchick on April 14, 2019, 08:21:46 AM
I know this isn’t necessarily the thread for it, but I’d be curious if anyone else had either good caddy stories.

 So, I tell them I'm a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald... striking. So, I'm on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one - big hitter, the Lama - long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-lagunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: real chili 83 on April 14, 2019, 08:23:49 AM
Ace
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: real chili 83 on April 14, 2019, 08:41:50 AM
Wow, Mickelson
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 14, 2019, 08:58:03 AM
@darrenrovell Yesterday at 21:02
$1,190,000: What one bettor would win if Tiger wins tomorrow. Bettor placed an $85,000 bet at 14/1 at a William Hill sportsbook in Nevada on Tuesday. It represents the greatest single bet golf liability in the US operator’s history. Tiger now 3/1 at all of William Hill books.

Tiger Woods Has Bookmakers Sweating After Third Round of Masters
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-13/tiger-woods-has-bookmakers-sweating-after-third-round-of-masters
 Former world No. 1 is seeking his 15th major tournament title
 One bettor is hoping for a $1.2 million payday on Sunday
Before the tournament began on Thursday, Paddy Power discussed which seven players posed the most danger for the people running golf books. Northern Irishman Rory McIlroy was top of the pile but is now out of contention, and Woods was ranked the fourth-biggest potential liability.

“If the Woods-meister starts shooting the lights out everyone will want a piece of the action and that could mean carnage,” the Dublin-based betting company said. “We’ll be diving for cover if Woods starts to put on a Masters-class.”


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We had threads on this before.  Bookmaking is such an ultra-competitive tight margin business (meaning it is not that profitable anymore) that the days of just balancing the books and diving the money are long gone.  Now the bookmakers have to take one side of the bet.

Seems like the public likes betting on Tiger and the bookmakers were all too happy to take the other side.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Cheeks on April 14, 2019, 09:14:30 AM
@darrenrovell Yesterday at 21:02
$1,190,000: What one bettor would win if Tiger wins tomorrow. Bettor placed an $85,000 bet at 14/1 at a William Hill sportsbook in Nevada on Tuesday. It represents the greatest single bet golf liability in the US operator’s history. Tiger now 3/1 at all of William Hill books.

Tiger Woods Has Bookmakers Sweating After Third Round of Masters
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-13/tiger-woods-has-bookmakers-sweating-after-third-round-of-masters
 Former world No. 1 is seeking his 15th major tournament title
 One bettor is hoping for a $1.2 million payday on Sunday
Before the tournament began on Thursday, Paddy Power discussed which seven players posed the most danger for the people running golf books. Northern Irishman Rory McIlroy was top of the pile but is now out of contention, and Woods was ranked the fourth-biggest potential liability.

“If the Woods-meister starts shooting the lights out everyone will want a piece of the action and that could mean carnage,” the Dublin-based betting company said. “We’ll be diving for cover if Woods starts to put on a Masters-class.”


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We had threads on this before.  Bookmaking is such an ultra-competitive tight margin business (meaning it is not that profitable anymore) that the days of just balancing the books and diving the money are long gone.  Now the bookmakers have to take one side of the bet.

Seems like the public likes betting on Tiger and the bookmakers were all too happy to take the other side.

6 to 8% is the entire squeeze.  You are correct, very low margin.  We keep meeting with leagues and betting houses, along with the data guys like Sport Radar, and the amount of true money to be made is so damn small.  Sure, top line revenue is there, but margin is almost non existent.

Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 14, 2019, 10:06:20 AM
Decent amount of golf to be played. But this looks like molinari will win. He's been Rock solid with scrambling. Would need someone to go really low to catch him.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 14, 2019, 10:23:19 AM
Decent amount of golf to be played. But this looks like Molinari will win. He's been Rock solid with scrambling. Would need someone to go really low to catch him.

Never ever ever ever (did I say ever) predict a winner on the front nine unless they have a 10 shot lead.

Tiger now one back on 8.  Molinari stopped being rock solid the second you hit "post" as he cannot hit a fairway or green anymore.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 14, 2019, 10:42:49 AM
Never ever ever ever (did I say ever) predict a winner on the front nine unless they have a 10 shot lead.

Tiger now one back on 8.  Molinari stopped being rock solid the second you hit "post" as he cannot hit a fairway or green anymore.

He promptly birdied and hit a perfect drive on 9.

He's the best golfer in this group. Obviously Tiger or a couple of others could win this too but Molinari is a killer. So solid.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 14, 2019, 11:04:13 AM
He promptly birdied and hit a perfect drive on 9.

He's the best golfer in this group. Obviously Tiger or a couple of others could win this too but Molinari is a killer. So solid.

In marathon running, they say the race to win begins at mile 20.

In golf, the charge to win begins on the back 9 on Sunday. This is when the sphincter to tight and the pressure is high.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 14, 2019, 11:12:36 AM
In marathon running, they say the race to win begins at mile 20.

In golf, the charge to win begins on the back 9 on Sunday. This is when the sphincter to tight and the pressure is high.

Molinari is the last guy who would buckle under pressure. He continues to chug along.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: JWags85 on April 14, 2019, 11:16:57 AM
He promptly birdied and hit a perfect drive on 9.

He's the best golfer in this group. Obviously Tiger or a couple of others could win this too but Molinari is a killer. So solid.

Could be the best golfer in the world right now honestly.  His scrambling and putting has been absolutely INSANE.

Current Tiger is not good or consistent enough to overcome someone as rock steady as this with a couple strokes.  Koepka needs some magic otherwise Molinari is in control.

And Tiger just striped one into the gully on 11
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 14, 2019, 11:21:14 AM
Could be the best golfer in the world right now honestly.  His scrambling and putting has been absolutely INSANE.

Current Tiger is not good or consistent enough to overcome someone as rock steady as this with a couple strokes.  Koepka needs some magic otherwise Molinari is in control.

And Tiger just striped one into the gully on 11

And koepka pulls a spieth.

Molinari solidly in control
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 14, 2019, 11:23:43 AM
Could be the best golfer in the world right now honestly.  His scrambling and putting has been absolutely INSANE.

Current Tiger is not good or consistent enough to overcome someone as rock steady as this with a couple strokes.  Koepka needs some magic otherwise Molinari is in control.

And Tiger just striped one into the gully on 11

Exactly. Someone has to catch Molinari. He's not going to fall back. He may shoot a 72, but he' not going to give back strokes.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jsglow on April 14, 2019, 11:29:55 AM
And koepka pulls a spieth.

Molinari solidly in control

Toast.

AND he's back in it.  Crazy.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 14, 2019, 11:33:58 AM
Ruh roh...
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MUEng92 on April 14, 2019, 11:37:16 AM
Wow. Although Molinari will probably hole out the next shot
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 14, 2019, 11:37:51 AM
Exactly. Someone has to catch Molinari. He's not going to fall back. He may shoot a 72, but he' not going to give back strokes.
Did someone say “give back strokes”?
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 14, 2019, 11:39:54 AM
Did someone say “give back strokes”?

I still think he'll shoot 72 or better. Big putt upcoming.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jsglow on April 14, 2019, 11:46:43 AM
I still think he'll shoot 72 or better. Big putt upcoming.

That'll mess with happy.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 14, 2019, 11:52:09 AM
Chaos.

There's like 10 people who can win this on the back nine.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Cheeks on April 14, 2019, 11:54:05 AM
Toast.

Nope
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jsglow on April 14, 2019, 11:55:16 AM
Nope

I know.  I just went back and edited to make myself look smart!
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 14, 2019, 11:57:30 AM
Gonna have to go low to win this thing.

Molinari pars aren't going to get it done, it would seem.

We gonna get a weather delay to really f this up?
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 14, 2019, 12:01:34 PM
Gonna have to go low to win this thing.

Molinari pars aren't going to get it done, it would seem.

We gonna get a weather delay to really f this up?

Maybe. But they should be able to finish today. Thunderstorms ending around 5:30 EST
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 14, 2019, 12:30:25 PM
Chaos.

There's like 10 people who can win this on the back nine.

This is going to be a fantastic finish.  Currently a five-way tie.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jsglow on April 14, 2019, 12:35:42 PM
That looked like one of my shots.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MUBurrow on April 14, 2019, 12:36:16 PM
My lord - I really didn't think there was any chance he'd totally fall apart
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jesmu84 on April 14, 2019, 12:37:59 PM
My lord - I really didn't think there was any chance he'd totally fall apart

This.

After the British and Ryder cup, guy looked solid
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 14, 2019, 12:38:17 PM
Well. I was wrong on Molinari. Hope I'm wrong on Tiger!

Man what a run if DJ makes this birdie at 18.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: jsglow on April 14, 2019, 12:40:17 PM
Props to Herman.  Playing out like he said.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: BM1090 on April 14, 2019, 12:41:20 PM
Props to Herman.  Playing out like he said.

Speak it into existence.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 14, 2019, 12:46:22 PM
Well, poop.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 14, 2019, 12:52:18 PM
My lord - I really didn't think there was any chance he'd totally fall apart

Sure there was a chance ... anything that happens before the turn on Sunday is only to get you in position to win.  You win it after the turn.

Everyone was offering an analysis of how he looked before the turn.  Might have well have told us how he looked in last week's tournament. 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: nyg on April 14, 2019, 01:08:18 PM
Hermie happy, golf fans happy, CBS gonna be happy.  Two years ago, Tiger had problems getting out of his car.  Looks like a win and he missed a boatload of putts during the week. 

Walk up 18 going to be special. 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 14, 2019, 01:10:36 PM
Hermie happy, golf fans happy, CBS gonna be happy.  Two years ago, Tiger had problems getting out of his car.  Looks like a win and he missed a boatload of putts during the week. 

Walk up 18 going to be special.

I agree with everything you said, but CBS would have been even happier if this was playing out at about 6:00 Eastern with a full green jacket ceremony to follow.  But I'm sure they'll gladly take it.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 14, 2019, 01:31:45 PM
Tried and true, baby.  Tried and true.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: CreightonWarrior on April 14, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
Heck of a reaction by Tiger after that win.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Anti-Dentite on April 14, 2019, 01:34:38 PM
All hail Tiger...and Herman!
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: real chili 83 on April 14, 2019, 01:45:38 PM
Wonder if his kids mom gets 50%?

One of the the all time great pigs, but heck of a golfer.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2019, 01:45:58 PM
All hail Tiger...and Herman!
Second leg of the Grand Slam for Tiger coming up at the PGA at Bethpage Black.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MUEng92 on April 14, 2019, 01:49:43 PM
Jim Nantz will not let Tiger leave the Butler Cabin without crying on air.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2019, 01:51:59 PM
Kudos to 9-9-9.

Predicted this 999 times over the last few years and, doggone it, nailed this one!

Seriously, though, fun Masters. Was stunned like most that Molinari choked. Was rooting for Koepka to make that putt so he could make Tiger sweat, but he gacked big-time. Tiger was the only one who totally kept it together on the back-9. It's nice to have him back.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on April 14, 2019, 01:56:27 PM
Is Jim Nantz is leaving the dream. Redemption tour. Virginia and Tiger is a six day span.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on April 14, 2019, 01:58:31 PM
I agree with everything you said, but CBS would have been even happier if this was playing out at about 6:00 Eastern with a full green jacket ceremony to follow.  But I'm sure they'll gladly take it.
7:00 eastern. Point taken. Replay should be a solid rating with Tiger winning.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: nyg on April 14, 2019, 02:25:20 PM
Jim Nantz will not let Tiger leave the Butler Cabin without crying on air.

Yeah, that was over the top by him, kept bringing up memories of father, etc., waiting for the TV closeup.  Tiger didn't fall for it. 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2019, 02:44:43 PM
Yeah, that was over the top by him, kept bringing up memories of father, etc., waiting for the TV closeup.  Tiger didn't fall for it.

My son and I were texting back and forth constantly during the last couple hours of the round. The 10th time they did a cut-away to the crowd, he texted: "I ALREADY am sick of Tiger's family."
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 14, 2019, 03:03:38 PM
Good for Tiger.     However, going forward, my rooting interests will be, as always, 'anybody but Tiger'.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MUBurrow on April 14, 2019, 03:08:59 PM
Good for Tiger.     However, going forward, my rooting interests will be, as always, 'anybody but Tiger'.

Can I ask why? I'd personally love to see Tiger have the kind of sustained success where he's the prohibitive favorite week to week again.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 14, 2019, 03:27:21 PM
Tiger is a Buzz type of player, hey?
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2019, 03:47:10 PM
Good for Tiger.     However, going forward, my rooting interests will be, as always, 'anybody but Tiger'.

Why?

Going forward, I certainly don't want him to be Dominant Tiger again, and I don't think he will be. He's getting older, and there just are too many good players now who respect him but don't fear or worship him. I won't care if he wins or loses, but I like having him in the hunt because golf is more interesting when he is.

Having said that, the fawning by everybody could push me into the Anybody But Tiger camp. Maybe that's where you are, too.

I mean, I'm already sick of some making this out to be the greatest golf accomplishment since balata golf balls were phased out!
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Jockey on April 14, 2019, 04:07:01 PM
Hermie happy, golf fans happy, CBS gonna be happy.  Two years ago, Tiger had problems getting out of his car.  Looks like a win and he missed a boatload of putts during the week. 

Walk up 18 going to be special.

Other players are overjoyed. If they can’t win themselves, they are all in on Tiger. $$$$$$ talks.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 14, 2019, 04:55:12 PM
herman, my man!  was this you ;)

http://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/26524565/bettor-wins-119m-tiger-books-take-bath
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: 🏀 on April 14, 2019, 05:10:24 PM
Sat front row just off the 18 bunker.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 14, 2019, 05:23:20 PM
Sat front row just off the 18 bunker.

ok, now you're rubbin it in!  good on ya!  how did you get such invitations, if ya don't mind me askin?
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Cheeks on April 14, 2019, 05:31:00 PM
Tiger is a Buzz type of player, hey?

You mean the mugshot version of Tiger....you probably have a point.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: 🏀 on April 14, 2019, 06:00:12 PM
ok, now you're rubbin it in!  good on ya!  how did you get such invitations, if ya don't mind me askin?

Got to the gate at 5:10am.

I'm the extremely visible patron while Tiger hits his third shot.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: MUEng92 on April 14, 2019, 06:02:25 PM
Sorry, golf is just different when Tiger is playing well.  I understand golf fanatics try to tell everyone it isn't, but it is.

It's like watching basketball with Jordan playing and hockey with Gretzky.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 14, 2019, 06:32:25 PM
Sat front row just off the 18 bunker.

One of the few things in life I am honestly jealous of.     Well done. 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: reinko on April 14, 2019, 06:58:11 PM
Got to the gate at 5:10am.

I'm the extremely visible patron while Tiger hits his third shot.

Green shirt and shorts with a 🍺 in hand?
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 14, 2019, 07:09:28 PM
One of the few things in life I am honestly jealous of.     Well done.

yup, this and rickie fowler's girlfirend-well not his girlfriend, but you know what i mean :-[
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 14, 2019, 08:04:08 PM
I know this isn’t necessarily the thread for it, but I’d be curious if anyone else had either good caddy stories. I caddied at St. Charles Country Club from 13 through my senior year at MU. Best job I’ve ever had. Phil was biggest name I ever caddied for. Phil talked to Bones far more than me during that round, but experience of a lifetime otherwise. I was on a bag in a foursome with Hal Sutton, and other rounds with Tony Jacklin, Ray Floyd, and Billy Casper. Non tour pros Gene Keady, Dale Tallon, Howard Sudberry. I regularly caddied for Jim Skinner (and his wife Kathy) before he became CEO at McDonalds. Great sense of humor and always tipped very well.

I was one of Tony Jacklin’s only three caddies he would ever take at Concession GC in Bradenton, FL, which will be a future Ryder Cup venue, as it was conceived and named in honor of Jack Nicklaus’s conceded putt to Tony in Ryder Cup lore. He was a decent enough guy, but if someone in our group didn’t respect the golf course, look out! I’m not gonna name names because I can’t remember who was driving the cart that damaged a couple lips of bunkers, but he went off on a group of famous INDY Car drivers who had a mini outing there. They deserved it, though. Zero cart etiquette (they just had to be race car drivers lol). Caddied for Steve Kerr at Conway Farms....US Transportation Secy Sam Skinner at Shoreacres, looped in a group with Brian Urlacher at Sunset Ridge, helped Johnny Miller do a clinic at Sunset (ok, I handed him a club or two lol). A good friend of mine was the regular looper for Michael Jordan at both Wynstone and Glen Flora.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: 🏀 on April 14, 2019, 08:26:44 PM
Green shirt and shorts with a 🍺 in hand?

Neon? I'm certain I wasn't holding a beer, had an issue brewing about 40 minutes earlier, that, ahem, relieved itself.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Anti-Dentite on April 14, 2019, 08:36:30 PM
Neon? I'm certain I wasn't holding a beer, had an issue brewing about 40 minutes earlier, that, ahem, relieved itself.
Is that what the security guy slipped in and tripped Tiger...
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 14, 2019, 08:44:00 PM
Neon? I'm certain I wasn't holding a beer, had an issue brewing about 40 minutes earlier, that, ahem, relieved itself.

I think I inadvertently jinxed you in a previous post......by being envious of the Sawgrass/Pimento Cheese sandwhich weekend.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 14, 2019, 08:53:40 PM
I went to Augusta back about 1993.  TV doesn't come close to doing it justice.

You missed Joey LaCava’s 1st win there by one year...he was on the bag for Couples’ GreenJacket in 1992.

 I was down there in 1999 for Jose Maria Olazabal’s win, and I am still kicking myself for not getting a bet down on him that year at boxcar odds.  I didn’t place another Masters bet until 2017... it was just too painful to chase....but another Spaniard redeemed me....I had plunked down $100 on Sergio at just short of 35-1.

Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 14, 2019, 08:57:51 PM
Molinari is the last guy who would buckle under pressure. He continues to chug along.

Remind me not to bring you to the track with me.

Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: DegenerateDish on April 14, 2019, 09:25:55 PM
I was one of Tony Jacklin’s only three caddies he would ever take at Concession GC in Bradenton, FL, which will be a future Ryder Cup venue, as it was conceived and named in honor of Jack Nicklaus’s conceded putt to Tony in Ryder Cup lore. He was a decent enough guy, but if someone in our group didn’t respect the golf course, look out! I’m not gonna name names because I can’t remember who was driving the cart that damaged a couple lips of bunkers, but he went off on a group of famous INDY Car drivers who had a mini outing there. They deserved it, though. Zero cart etiquette (they just had to be race car drivers lol). Caddied for Steve Kerr at Conway Farms....US Transportation Secy Sam Skinner at Shoreacres, looped in a group with Brian Urlacher at Sunset Ridge, helped Johnny Miller do a clinic at Sunset (ok, I handed him a club or two lol). A good friend of mine was the regular looper for Michael Jordan at both Wynstone and Glen Flora.

I can vouch that Jacklin was a jerk.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 14, 2019, 10:03:11 PM
I can vouch that Jacklin was a jerk.

He definitely had his days. Really moody. I think part of it with any aging athlete, but especially a guy like Jacklin, when you realize that your skills, while still serviceable, leave you a shadow of the player you once were. He was so competitive, and if he was playing well he was much easier to be around.

Tony wouldn’t make a very good poker player. When you got to know him, you knew that he knew his own faults and was a decent guy.  I can’t say I disagree with your first impression of him.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 15, 2019, 12:23:27 AM
I know this isn’t necessarily the thread for it, but I’d be curious if anyone else had either good caddy stories. I caddied at St. Charles Country Club from 13 through my senior year at MU. Best job I’ve ever had. Phil was biggest name I ever caddied for. Phil talked to Bones far more than me during that round, but experience of a lifetime otherwise. I was on a bag in a foursome with Hal Sutton, and other rounds with Tony Jacklin, Ray Floyd, and Billy Casper. Non tour pros Gene Keady, Dale Tallon, Howard Sudberry. I regularly caddied for Jim Skinner (and his wife Kathy) before he became CEO at McDonalds. Great sense of humor and always tipped very well.

Funny story about Dale Tallon...he played basically every summer day at Conway Farms when he was a Blackhawks announcer, then much less so when he worked in the Hawks front office. Everybody at Conway loved Dale...he was one of those rare members who didn’t think he was a bit better than the caddies and hired help. Dale somehow also got the greatest paying gig ever when he was named the “head pro” at Highland Park Golf Course. He certainly was a pro, as he regularly beat former Conway pros Todd Sones and Jeff Mory. But his HPGC contract called for him to be on-course basically one day a week. He was nothing more than a high profile figure-head at Highland Park, and paid well for it. Can’t see a municipality having the funds to do that today. So one Monday, he’s at Conway on a day we’re technically closed to member play, he’s trying out some new irons (the guy literally ran a pro shop out of his trunk...he was a real tinkerer...usually 100+ clubs clanking around) and our Caddymaster goes up to him as he’s hitting like ten balls from the tee at the par 3 2nd, testing like 5 sets of irons and Dale goes, “What are you doing here, it’s Monday?” Our Caddymaster goes, “Im teeing it up today, Dale....I just interviewed for the head pro job at Highland Park...it involves a lot of play at Conway Farms.”
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 15, 2019, 06:37:25 AM
love the stories guys!  can't hold a candle to any of those but saw john daley's first round at the now defunct GMO at tuckaway golf club in franklin, wi. 
   worked the old rainbow springs course in mukwonago-stormin gormin jimmy gantner and the boys would tear it up.  bobby hull once played there-swear to God his swing was just like his slap shot-no one was going to tell him there was anything wrong with that 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 15, 2019, 09:29:01 AM
I know this isn’t necessarily the thread for it, but I’d be curious if anyone else had either good caddy stories.

I have an "almost" caddy story.  In 1996 the US Senior Open was at Canterbury, in Cleveland.  I went to a practice round alone, which honestly was one of my favorite sports experiences of my life.  I don't remember how many holes I walked that day, but I know I walked 18 with Nicklaus, nine with Player, a few with Irwin, a few with Weiskopf, and quite a few others.  I got a lot of great autographs that day, including Nicklaus.

Anyway, while I was walking with Player, he sent his caddy back to the clubhouse to grab a club.  I was standing within about 5 feet of him and he asked, "who would like to take my bag?"  Like an idiot, I raised my hand and said I'd do it.  Unfortunately, another guy about 15 feet away was more aggressive and jumped over the rope and grabbed the bag.  I really wish I'd have just jumped in.  They guy carried Player's bag for about four holes.  I'd have loved to have done that.

On the bright side, one of the reasons I got Nicklaus's autograph that day was because I wasn't so pushy.  Obviously, everyone wanted him to sign, and at every hole they crowded around the spot where they would open up the rope.  I was amazed by how aggressive and pushy they were, and I'd decided that I wasn't going to jump into that fray.  One one hole I was just standing by the pivot point where the rope was attached (i.e., the end away from the opening) while everyone else was crowding around the opening to get Jack's autograph.  While they were all competing for position at the other end, he walked right up to me and I was able to ask for his autograph -- and exchange a few words -- with no one else around.  Walking 18 holes with Nicklaus for that practice round was a great experience.

One more autograph story from that practice round.  I was walking by, and saw Irwin walking from the clubhouse to the practice green.  I approached and asked for an autograph and he totally laid into me, telling me that I shouldn't bother him while he was working.  I apologized and turned and walked away.  I guess he realized he was being a prick because he actually chased me down about 20 yards away, apologized, and signed my program.  It was kind of an odd interaction.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 15, 2019, 10:03:10 AM
StillAWarrior
Very cool stories. I’ve heard the same about Hale Irwin, but at least he worked to rectify the situation. Your description of what he first said to you sounds exactly like Don Johnson’s character’s response to the young grandchild in the movie TinCup.

Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 15, 2019, 10:43:53 AM
Tiger's Win Costs FanDuel $2 Million as Sports Books Lose Big
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-14/tiger-s-win-costs-fanduel-2-million-as-sports-books-lose-big
FanDuel Group, which ran a refund promotion tied to its fantasy product, said it lost $2 million when Woods secured his first major victory in more than a decade. The Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook lost nearly $100,000, its worst result ever for the Masters, and William Hill U.S. lost “seven figures.”
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 15, 2019, 11:47:16 AM

One more autograph story from that practice round.  I was walking by, and saw Irwin walking from the clubhouse to the practice green.  I approached and asked for an autograph and he totally laid into me, telling me that I shouldn't bother him while he was working.  I apologized and turned and walked away.  I guess he realized he was being a prick because he actually chased me down about 20 yards away, apologized, and signed my program.  It was kind of an odd interaction.
  On the autograph story front, I had my second interaction with Bo Jackson, the first being at Rich Harvest Farms during a rain storm in the half way house, and the second at Bolingbrook GC at a charity event.  I walked out to the range prior to the shotgun start, to find Bo as the only person on the range.  A few minutes later, the person who organized the charity event, who I'd known since I was a kid, came up to me to say hello.  Whiile we were talking, he saw Bo Jackson on the range, decided to ask Bo for an autograph for his grandson and said why don't I go with him and get one for my kids.  We walked over to Bo, introduced ourselves and asked if he'd sign our scorecards for the organizer's grandson and my kids.  At first he refused to sign anything, saying he's at the even to just play golf, not to sign autographs.  After the organizer told him he's the one who got the charity event off the ground, Bo signed the organizer's scorecard.  Then, with no one else around on the range, and with a lot of time to go before we were expected to get in our carts and go to the hole we each were to start on, Bo Jackson looks at me and tells me he won't sign my card for my kids.  Needless to say, I've not been a huge Bo Jackson fan since.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 15, 2019, 06:15:32 PM
  On the autograph story front, I had my second interaction with Bo Jackson, the first being at Rich Harvest Farms during a rain storm in the half way house, and the second at Bolingbrook GC at a charity event.  I walked out to the range prior to the shotgun start, to find Bo as the only person on the range.  A few minutes later, the person who organized the charity event, who I'd known since I was a kid, came up to me to say hello.  Whiile we were talking, he saw Bo Jackson on the range, decided to ask Bo for an autograph for his grandson and said why don't I go with him and get one for my kids.  We walked over to Bo, introduced ourselves and asked if he'd sign our scorecards for the organizer's grandson and my kids.  At first he refused to sign anything, saying he's at the even to just play golf, not to sign autographs.  After the organizer told him he's the one who got the charity event off the ground, Bo signed the organizer's scorecard.  Then, with no one else around on the range, and with a lot of time to go before we were expected to get in our carts and go to the hole we each were to start on, Bo Jackson looks at me and tells me he won't sign my card for my kids.  Needless to say, I've not been a huge Bo Jackson fan since.


I’m not an autograph guy, and I never want to judge someone who is. I never had kids, so I am in no position to judge...if I had kids of my own, like you, I would probably be like a middle linebacker jockeying and bouncing until I find my path to the ball-carrier/autographer. And you seem very respectful and reverential of athlete’s personhood and space. You were definitely brought up humble and right.

That said, I think you have to withhold judgement on some of these athletes for not signing. So many have been burned by stories of sick children only to see unscrupulous memorabilia dealers screw with their images, likenesses, and autographs for personal gain. I know you are one of the good guys, and Bo should’ve seen that. Athletes can be a stubborn breed. If Bo saw his autograph as the object of joy that it should be, he wouldn’t hesitate to sign. Something tells me an experience or 500 he has had led to him associating the word “autograph” not with joy, but deception and someone else’s dollar profits. I wouldn’t take it personally.

I got turned off for good to autographs when I worked at a popular golf dome in the Chicago suburbs one winter. The owner/operator knew several Chicago Bears very well, and one day he breaks out this huge professionally done wall poster. He asked a couple of my co-workers to trace/copy Bear player signatures onto the poster, which was to be sold at a charity auction the next weekend.  When I approached one of them asking whether he was going to do that, he told me, “I guess ...(owner name) knows all of them anyway and they would probably be ok with it.” I advised him not to, that this is fraud. He kind of shrugged his shoulders and went “Meh.”  When I asked him what the charity was, he laughed and goes...”probably (owner’s name) pocket.”

I never liked or trusted this business owner, and I quit within a week. Immediately I thought back to how I always shunned seeking autographs as a kid despite loving both Cubs and Brewers baseball and going with my Dad to about 10 games each summer. This work incident sealed it for me.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: tower912 on April 15, 2019, 06:16:36 PM
Tiger wins the Masters.   The Hausers are leaving.    This week sucks.   
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 15, 2019, 07:41:05 PM
Neon? I'm certain I wasn't holding a beer, had an issue brewing about 40 minutes earlier, that, ahem, relieved itself.

yeah, but i'm sure the port-o-lets at augusta don't stink, eyn'a?  or do they even let ya do that on the grounds ;D 
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 16, 2019, 12:10:30 AM
Story of the guy that bet $85k on Tiger and won $1.2m

He’s from Wisconsin, self-employed day trader.

Good read

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gambler-who-won-dollar12-million-on-tiger-woods-2019-masters-victory-i-had-never-placed-a-bet-on-sports-in-my-life
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: cheebs09 on April 16, 2019, 01:43:05 PM
Story of the guy that bet $85k on Tiger and won $1.2m

He’s from Wisconsin, self-employed day trader.

Good read

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/gambler-who-won-dollar12-million-on-tiger-woods-2019-masters-victory-i-had-never-placed-a-bet-on-sports-in-my-life

I feel like that money will be gone as quickly as it came.
Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: reinko on April 16, 2019, 07:48:32 PM
If Tiger makes that ace on 16, greatest moment in sports history?

Title: Re: Masters 2019
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 16, 2019, 10:06:09 PM
I feel like that money will be gone as quickly as it came.

I’m not buying the story at all.
The guy is most likely a tax puppet for some member at Medallist Club where Tiger belongs down in Jupiter FL. My buddy caddies down there, sees Tiger at least once a week, and told me that the whole club bets gigantic amounts on everything from their own golf to horses to PGA Golf to College sports. One of these guys most likely played with TW recently and saw how ridiculously focused and tight his swing is getting and knew that if he even putts average this past week he wins.

Cmon, a guy who has never placed a sports wager in his life, has 2outstsnding student loans, car loans, and is losing at day trading all of a sudden puts down $85,000 on a golf tournament?

I mean if this story is real, a movie should be made tomorrow.