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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: genious expert on March 30, 2019, 11:45:47 PM

Title: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: genious expert on March 30, 2019, 11:45:47 PM
VT fans are trying to tell me that this is proof of Wojo taking the VT job

https://twitter.com/techlunchpaild/status/1112178966138404864?s=21


Thoughts?

First off doesn’t he live in Mequon?
And wouldn’t he fly out of MKE?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bad_Reporter on March 30, 2019, 11:55:00 PM
I was landing today and I did hear this plane taking off from the Mke area.  I know MU used to use a charter company out of Chicago executive previous to ours, wonder if that’s where this plane is from?

Either way, not worried about it
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: genious expert on March 31, 2019, 12:00:39 AM
Probably the strangest part is that somebody created a twitter account just to send that tweet to me. Literally follows nobody, 0 followers and sending me that is his only tweet. (I was explaining to some VT fan why I didn’t think Wojo would leave MU and this guy replies out of nowhere)

Edit: I definitely made it onto a Va Tech message board somewhere. 3,000+ impressions with a couple of my tweets, which were replies to a guy with 300 followers. They’re (rightfully) freaking out.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Lens on March 31, 2019, 06:50:54 AM
I’ve always assumed Wojo would grab the Wake Forest job after 5 years at MU. IMO, Va Tech is a little beneath his blue blood roots.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: cheese ball chaser on March 31, 2019, 07:05:43 AM
My sources tell me that Wojo to VT and Buzz back to MU is pretty much a #donedeal. Buzz is also bringing on Shaka Smart and Mick Cronin as assistants.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on March 31, 2019, 08:58:32 AM
Seeing Wojo and VaTech thrown around a lot on the twitter sphere.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on March 31, 2019, 09:06:30 AM
Question, didn’t Buzz also live in Mequon?  Did he ever sell his house?

Isn’t the perfect time for Buzz to head back to a place he lived six years to catch up on things and old friends is immediately after the season ends and before he switches jobs.

Buzz to A&M, Wojo stays st MU, VT back to irrelevance.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2019, 09:11:04 AM
fjm

Can you share any of those Twitter posts? I cannot find anything on the topic.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on March 31, 2019, 09:12:16 AM
Seeing Wojo and VaTech thrown around a lot on the twitter sphere.
Links?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2019, 09:14:02 AM
Nickel

I am trying hard to find a link on this Scoop and cannot find a thing.  I think this is a non story.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on March 31, 2019, 09:15:42 AM
https://twitter.com/rajannanavati/status/1112036819565199363?s=21
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2019, 09:17:48 AM
fjm

That was one post from yesterday. Anything new?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: williewarrior on March 31, 2019, 09:22:36 AM
I’ve always assumed Wojo would grab the Wake Forest job after 5 years at MU. IMO, Va Tech is a little beneath his blue blood roots.
With the meltdown he produced this year, his blue blood roots have wilted significantly
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on March 31, 2019, 09:28:53 AM
https://twitter.com/rajannanavati/status/1112036819565199363?s=21

Pretty stunning that the writer listed three names and the only one he spelled right was Steve Wojciechowski.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorPride68 on March 31, 2019, 09:33:18 AM
fjm

That was one post from yesterday. Anything new?

VT 247 VIP board. Their writer Matej said “wojo gaining steam” last night & their other writer follow up with the attached screenshot, fwiw

(https://i.imgflip.com/2xecjp.jpg)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Room510 on March 31, 2019, 09:36:26 AM
Maybe that flight is the MU staff headed down to sign up grad transfer Kerry Blackshear
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2019, 09:40:19 AM
Three programs all have much better traditions and two of those coaches have rebuked better offers than VTech.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on March 31, 2019, 09:46:07 AM
Three programs all have much better traditions and two of those coaches have rebuked better offers than VTech.

I mean...in SOME ways, I could see Wojo tempted to go to Va Tech..for one...the ACC where his roots are, 2nd...the  surrounding area is talent rich, 3rd..he'd be much closer to home. The downside that might weight heavily would be Coaching against Coach K every year. That being said, I don't think he'd get offered the job anyway.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MUfan12 on March 31, 2019, 09:52:17 AM
Still think if Cronin wants it, he gets that job.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on March 31, 2019, 09:58:48 AM
Still think if Cronin wants it, he gets that job.

This I agree with...his job to lose IMO.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on March 31, 2019, 10:03:02 AM
I mean...in SOME ways, I could see Wojo tempted to go to Va Tech..for one...the ACC where his roots are, 2nd...the  surrounding area is talent rich, 3rd..he'd be much closer to home. The downside that might weight heavily would be Coaching against Coach K every year. That being said, I don't think he'd get offered the job anyway.

I kinda agree here.
Also I can’t honestly say VaTech is a better gig than MU. Sure higher profile conference.
But MU has a new stadium, great facilities, spends a ton on b-ball, it’s a b-ball first school, and constant pro connections at the Fiserv.

Lastly I think MKE (if MU can be solid again next year) could become a solid basketball city for a while with how the a bucks are doing.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on March 31, 2019, 10:03:41 AM
fjm

That was one post from yesterday. Anything new?

Sorry goose. I don’t have much else. Other than other people throwing his name out.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on March 31, 2019, 10:12:12 AM
This would be unfortunate to start over again.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: shoothoops on March 31, 2019, 10:19:50 AM
Virginia Tech made the NCAA’s twice in 26 years prior to Buzz.

With Buzz, they have made it 3 straight. Through 5 seasons, Buzz has won 2 NCAA games (both this year, none his first 4 seasons there).  Buzz won 8 NCAA games his first 5 seasons at Marquette. 

Timing is good for Buzz to make the move. He will lose a lot of players this year. He previously turned down offers while at both Virginia Tech and MU because he had it going and had it lined up to do well the following season(s). 

He can go A&M, a good fit for him. He can turn it around quickly there. after the 5-6 years he can either stay long term or keep trying to do the same thing somewhere else.

 Viginia Tech has a good, popular AD, Whit Babcock. He will likely find a solid replacement.

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 31, 2019, 10:28:13 AM
This feels like a good time to remind people how rumor circle jerks work.

One person throws a rumor out into the world, they could do it by telling a few people or blast it on social media. That rumor reaches x number of people. Those people then call their "people in the know" to ask about the rumor. Reality is, most people's "people in the know" are not people with direct knowledge of the rumor. Instead, they are people who have also heard the rumor from the same source. So while they should say "I have no direct knowledge of this" they instead say "I also heard that rumor, there must be something to it." Those people then tell X more number of people and the process continues until the rumor is widely talked about regardless of the rumor having any legs or not.

Maybe Wojo is talking to VT. More likely he is on somebody's wish list and one "insider" got a hold of that wish list and started the rumor circle jerk process.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: CountryRoads on March 31, 2019, 10:40:02 AM
Wojo should be interviewing for other jobs. Nebraska just signed a coach for 3.5 million a year. Nebraska.

What is that? Double...triple what Wojo makes? (Disclaimer: no idea what his level of compensation is relative to other top coaches so if it’s on par with them not sure what that would be about.)

Despite the tough finish to the year, he should be out trying to get a better deal if one exists and force MU to pony up. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 31, 2019, 10:50:56 AM
Wojo should be interviewing for other jobs. Nebraska just signed a coach for 3.5 million a year. Nebraska.

What is that? Double...triple what Wojo makes? (Disclaimer: no idea what his level of compensation is relative to other top coaches so if it’s on par with them not sure what that would be about.)

Despite the tough finish to the year, he should be out trying to get a better deal if one exists and force MU to pony up.

This sounds like Agent Talk.  More money for you, more money for me.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WindyCityGoldenEagle on March 31, 2019, 11:02:04 AM
Wojo should be interviewing for other jobs. Nebraska just signed a coach for 3.5 million a year. Nebraska.

What is that? Double...triple what Wojo makes? (Disclaimer: no idea what his level of compensation is relative to other top coaches so if it’s on par with them not sure what that would be about.)

Despite the tough finish to the year, he should be out trying to get a better deal if one exists and force MU to pony up.

Last I checked Fred Hoiberg has a better track record than wojo. While wojo has all the right in the world to look for better pay, he will be lookkng very long if he’s trying to get Hoiberg money.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 31, 2019, 11:03:08 AM
The announcement that Wojo will take the VT job will be made tomorrow, April 1, no foolin!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on March 31, 2019, 11:04:17 AM
Wojo should be interviewing for other jobs. Nebraska just signed a coach for 3.5 million a year. Nebraska.

What is that? Double...triple what Wojo makes? (Disclaimer: no idea what his level of compensation is relative to other top coaches so if it’s on par with them not sure what that would be about.)

Despite the tough finish to the year, he should be out trying to get a better deal if one exists and force MU to pony up.
I’d hope we wouldn’t be leveraged into that. He hasn’t earned the right to leverage MU
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on March 31, 2019, 11:09:29 AM
Buzz Williams to Texas A&M is ‘Done’: Sources
By Adam Zagoria
https://www.zagsblog.com/2019/03/30/buzz-williams-to-texas-am-is-done-sources/

ADDED

After one heartbreaking loss, Virginia Tech braces for another
https://sports.yahoo.com/after-one-heartbreaking-loss-virginia-tech-braces-for-another-064602137.html

Yahoo Sports asked Williams about his future in the hallways of the Capital One Center early Saturday morning. When asked if Williams could say definitively if he’d return to Virginia Tech next season, he declined to answer. That was the most telling part of the exchange. When given a forum to clearly state his intention to return, he declined. “I don’t think there’s an answer to that when I have no evidence other than what you guys have writing,” he told Yahoo Sports.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: SERocks on March 31, 2019, 11:46:46 AM
The announcement that Wojo will take the VT job will be made tomorrow, April 1, no foolin!

Given Tanned Tommie's bolting date, this is not really too funny. 

The bigger question really is why would VT want Wojo? 

As much as I want long term stability in the program, I would not be disappointed if he left.  The problem is always who do you replace him with?  Never a guaranteed improvement, so sometimes best to let the current regime improve over time.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 31, 2019, 12:27:32 PM
Wojo should be interviewing for other jobs. Nebraska just signed a coach for 3.5 million a year. Nebraska.

What is that? Double...triple what Wojo makes? (Disclaimer: no idea what his level of compensation is relative to other top coaches so if it’s on par with them not sure what that would be about.)

Despite the tough finish to the year, he should be out trying to get a better deal if one exists and force MU to pony up.

There’s your Big Ten Network money in action.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 31, 2019, 12:32:42 PM
I’d hope we wouldn’t be leveraged into that. He hasn’t earned the right to leverage MU


Of course he has.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on March 31, 2019, 12:34:32 PM

Of course he has.

No he hasn’t. And it’s certainly not an “of course” certainty. Plenty of room for debate there
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 31, 2019, 12:43:19 PM
The fact is in college basketball circles, Wojo is considered successful.  Therefore he has leverage.  Your statements don't change that.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on March 31, 2019, 12:46:56 PM
The fact is in college basketball circles, Wojo is considered successful.  Therefore he has leverage.  Your statements don't change that.
You’re in these circles? I’ll answer for you; you’re not. That’s your perception. If MU didn’t feel his performance warranted an extension/increase before, they shouldn’t be bullied/leveraged into giving him one for fear of losing him.

He hasn’t proven enough to have that amount of leverage. That’s my opinion. Your opinion is he has. They’re both opinions. As I said; much room for debate
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 31, 2019, 12:50:13 PM
You’re in these circles? I’ll answer for you; you’re not. That’s your perception. If MU didn’t feel his performance warranted an extension/increase before, they shouldn’t be bullied/leveraged into giving him one for fear of losing him.


He was literally just mentioned yesterday about the VT job.  So yeah.  People think highly of him.

But your second statement is correct.  Marquette can choose to ignore his leverage if they want.  But that doesn't change the fact he has it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 12:54:35 PM
This I agree with...his job to lose IMO.

What's really crazy is that VA Tech is seen as a better job than tradition-rich Cincinnati.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on March 31, 2019, 12:56:49 PM
What's really crazy is that VA Tech is seen as a better job than tradition-rich Cincinnati.

Yes. That is truly ridiculous. Once Buzz is gone Va Texh will likely slide back down the ACC ranks. Buzz is good.

And yes Wojo has earned the right to be in these conversations. But I don’t think he’s goin anywhere. Too many oddities at VaTech for him.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Small Orange Soda on March 31, 2019, 12:58:19 PM
This would be unfortunate to start over again.

Well, we wouldn't have to start over on the court.  Cupboard is full.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 01:06:00 PM
Yes. That is truly ridiculous. Once Buzz is gone Va Texh will likely slide back down the ACC ranks. Buzz is good.

And yes Wojo has earned the right to be in these conversations. But I don’t think he’s goin anywhere. Too many oddities at VaTech for him.

Buzz is a really good coach. Not sure he's the best administrator but he knows how to build a hard-nosed team that meshes together to win.

He uses the same schtick - dudes playing with a chip on their shoulder. You know what? It works.

VA Tech will slide back to basketball irrelevance. The only reason they are in the ACC is because the House of Burgesses made it a political mandate (I am not kidding.)

Not sure what to think about Cincinnati's future. Going back to the old Metro days they have been a force in CBB. The last link to the glory days is Cronin. If they would drop their second rate football program I would welcome them into the Big East in a heart beat.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 01:08:44 PM

But your second statement is correct.  Marquette can choose to ignore his leverage if they want.  But that doesn't change the fact he has it.

As a guy who did M&A work for a living I can tell you that leverage is bilateral.

WOjo gets an offer from VPI and brings it back to MU they will laugh in his face.

That's not leverage. That's "Go f#ck yourself and your offer"
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 31, 2019, 01:10:48 PM
WOjo gets an offer from VPI and brings it back to MU they will laugh in his face.

That's not leverage. That's "Go f#ck yourself and your offer"

I doubt that.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on March 31, 2019, 01:14:41 PM
The fact is in college basketball circles, Wojo is considered successful.  Therefore he has leverage.  Your statements don't change that.

In mid major circles perhaps it's improvement. In major college big time basketball it isn't...and shouldn't be at MU.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on March 31, 2019, 01:17:11 PM
It would be pretty depressing if Va Tech is considered and upgrade from Marquette again. On the plus side, at least we’d know where we stand in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 01:17:23 PM
I doubt that.

If you are doubting the in the specific you are correct: we have no idea how the MU BoT will react to a Wojo Power Play. Those ass clowns are unpredictable.

But in the general, if one party to a deal doesn't care if it closes then the likely end game is almost certainly, "F#ck off" 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 01:18:50 PM
This feels like a good time to remind people how rumor circle jerks work.


OH! RUMOR circle jerks. Never mind...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 01:21:55 PM
It would be pretty depressing if Va Tech is considered and upgrade from Marquette again. On the plus side, at least we’d know where we stand in the grand scheme of things.

Bocce Ball

Always remember: some people are running to something while others are running from something.

Context matters.

If Wojo bolts to VPI he ain't running there with stars in his eyes.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Marcus92 on March 31, 2019, 01:30:22 PM
All this is based on an unidentified plane carrying unidentified people from Waukesha to Roanoke? Hilarious. Scoop's appetite for wild, completely unwarranted speculation is unmatched.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 31, 2019, 01:32:55 PM
If you are doubting the in the specific you are correct: we have no idea how the MU BoT will react to a Wojo Power Play. Those ass clowns are unpredictable.

But in the general, if one party to a deal doesn't care if it closes then the likely end game is almost certainly, "F#ck off" 

But the fact that he usually would get an extension with the years left on the contract, and his name is being mentioned, gives him leverage with the extension. More money and/or more years,etc.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2019, 01:33:50 PM
I do not think Wojo backers should have any concern on his leaving.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Marcus92 on March 31, 2019, 01:34:57 PM
If you scroll down the link in the original post, there's a fake Wikipedia entry for Wojo that mentions him taking the Virginia Tech job on April 1, 2019.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on March 31, 2019, 01:36:02 PM
I doubt that.

Yeah. He has no idea how it works.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2019, 01:39:46 PM
Like Wojo or not, he is not in position to leverage MU for money at this time. If he is, he must think they do not clue of what they are doing. He does not deserve extension or more money. That could change, but not this year
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 01:42:01 PM
Like Wojo or not, he is not in position to leverage MU for money at this time. If he is, he must think they do not clue of what they are doing. He does not deserve extension or more money. That could change, but not this year

BTW, brudda, hope last night was better than ever. God bless you both!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: real chili 83 on March 31, 2019, 01:43:07 PM
This feels like a good time to remind people how rumor circle jerks work.

One person throws a rumor out into the world, they could do it by telling a few people or blast it on social media. That rumor reaches x number of people. Those people then call their "people in the know" to ask about the rumor. Reality is, most people's "people in the know" are not people with direct knowledge of the rumor. Instead, they are people who have also heard the rumor from the same source. So while they should say "I have no direct knowledge of this" they instead say "I also heard that rumor, there must be something to it." Those people then tell X more number of people and the process continues until the rumor is widely talked about regardless of the rumor having any legs or not.

Maybe Wojo is talking to VT. More likely he is on somebody's wish list and one "insider" got a hold of that wish list and started the rumor circle jerk process.

Mr Fargo called me today. Said he served a bald guy brisket, beans, and sweet tea.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2019, 01:43:44 PM
Thanks, Crash. Very nice anniversary dinner a few days early. Lucky guy!!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2019, 01:45:06 PM
TAMU

As I am sure you know, no mad dash happening at The Al today. This is a non story at the moment.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on March 31, 2019, 01:49:09 PM
TAMU

As I am sure you know, no mad dash happening at The Al today. This is a non story at the moment.

So are all coaching rumors a non story until a press conference is scheduled?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: real chili 83 on March 31, 2019, 01:49:42 PM
Thanks, Crash. Very nice anniversary dinner a few days early. Lucky guy!!

Extra onions?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on March 31, 2019, 01:51:00 PM
Like Wojo or not, he is not in position to leverage MU for money at this time. If he is, he must think they do not clue of what they are doing. He does not deserve extension or more money. That could change, but not this year

He’s almost certain to get one right? Don’t they have to for recruiting sake?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2019, 01:51:47 PM
real

Sprung for a better spread!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: real chili 83 on March 31, 2019, 01:53:30 PM
real

Sprung for a better spread!

Did it work?   :o  ;D
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on March 31, 2019, 01:55:04 PM
real

Texting with meat summit crew did interfere a tad. She is not as interested about Wojo’s career path as I am.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on March 31, 2019, 01:56:26 PM
He’s almost certain to get one right? Don’t they have to for recruiting sake?

Extensions in College BB mean absolutely nothing...see Oats, Nate and many others thru the years.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: real chili 83 on March 31, 2019, 01:57:44 PM
real

Texting with meat summit crew did interfere a tad. She is not as interested about Wojo’s career path as I am.

Texting during......dessert, not recommended.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 02:05:49 PM
real

Sprung for a better spread!

First date with first bride was at Angelo's. As I was heading out the door I looked in the wallet which had $2 in it. Went to the Tyme machine and the account had less than $20 which was the minimum disbursement.

Saw a buddy cutting through the Union who spotted me a saw buck.

Dinner, beers at the Lanche then Ardmore and I still had $5 left. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BCHoopster on March 31, 2019, 02:13:46 PM
The school was the winner when Oats left, 750k buyout
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Mutaman on March 31, 2019, 02:23:53 PM
My sources tell me that Wojo to VT and Buzz back to MU is pretty much a #donedeal. Buzz is also bringing on Shaka Smart and Mick Cronin as assistants.

i heard this from Dodds. He wrote it was a "done deal".
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Marcus92 on March 31, 2019, 02:26:15 PM
Buzz must be the experienced bench coach Wojo is looking for. Clearly, Wojo flew out to Roanoke to finalize the deal.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 02:30:12 PM
Buzz must be the experienced bench coach Wojo is looking for. Clearly, Wojo flew out to Roanoke to finalize the deal.

Roanoke??

A sign!

PointWarrior and I are meeting for beers tonight at the Roanoke Inn!

 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Herman Cain on March 31, 2019, 03:06:58 PM
This feels like a good time to remind people how rumor circle jerks work.

One person throws a rumor out into the world, they could do it by telling a few people or blast it on social media. That rumor reaches x number of people. Those people then call their "people in the know" to ask about the rumor. Reality is, most people's "people in the know" are not people with direct knowledge of the rumor. Instead, they are people who have also heard the rumor from the same source. So while they should say "I have no direct knowledge of this" they instead say "I also heard that rumor, there must be something to it." Those people then tell X more number of people and the process continues until the rumor is widely talked about regardless of the rumor having any legs or not.

Maybe Wojo is talking to VT. More likely he is on somebody's wish list and one "insider" got a hold of that wish list and started the rumor circle jerk process.
Thanks for outlining this methodology. It actually reflects the state of affairs of most of our country today.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on March 31, 2019, 04:26:48 PM
Mr Fargo called me today. Said he served a bald guy brisket, beans, and sweet tea.

Bald guy could mean anyone in Tejas.

Ask Mr Fargo if the bald guy:

1. Ordered by number
2. Was doing differential equations aloud in his head
3. Didn't flush
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 31, 2019, 06:25:14 PM
Texting during......dessert, not recommended.



Well worth it, doe. It wuz da meat summit bunch, afterall, hey?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 31, 2019, 07:19:09 PM
OH! RUMOR circle jerks. Never mind...

You are used to having a biscuit to aim at, aina?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: warriorchick on March 31, 2019, 08:44:56 PM
Bald guy could mean anyone in Tejas.



Except for Buzz.

(https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2019/03/28222434/BuzzWilliams-1024x682.jpg)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 31, 2019, 09:36:32 PM


Well worth it, doe. It wuz da meat summit bunch, afterall, hey?

funny, there was this blast of texts...then quiet.  mrs goose musta retreated to the w.c. to freshen up before the "desert" eyn'a?   happy 32 blissful years goose man!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on March 31, 2019, 11:19:40 PM
Well, we wouldn't have to start over on the court.  Cupboard is full.

Starting over with a new coach, new style.  The players here may not fit his style of play, could transfer.  My hope is this is nothing but hot air from people wanting to do harm to our program.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TedBaxter on April 01, 2019, 01:42:11 AM
Starting over with a new coach, new style.  The players here may not fit his style of play, could transfer.  My hope is this is nothing but hot air from people wanting to do harm to our program.

Don't bring common sense into this.  For some reason, some people think a new coach will be like Samantha Stevens wiggling her nose.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warrior Code on April 01, 2019, 09:26:34 AM
Except for Buzz.

(https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2019/03/28222434/BuzzWilliams-1024x682.jpg)

Looks a little like Bill Ponderosa who lost some weight.

Pondy's the coolest!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 01, 2019, 09:29:13 AM
Starting over with a new coach, new style.  The players here may not fit his style of play, could transfer.  My hope is this is nothing but hot air from people wanting to do harm to our program.

Yep
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 01, 2019, 10:22:09 AM
@GarrettLemelin

According to sources close to the program, Whit Babcock’s short list to replace Buzz Williams includes, but is not limited to:
- Sean Miller
- Rick Pitino
- Will Wade
- Mark Gottfried

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"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying"
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 01, 2019, 10:24:22 AM
Reports: Texas A&M close to making Virginia Tech's Buzz Williams next men's basketball coach
https://www.theeagle.com/aggie_sports/reports-texas-a-m-close-to-making-virginia-tech-s/article_ab24c598-5442-11e9-8ecf-07ae3c1f633e.html

Texas A&M reportedly is closing in on Virginia Tech’s Buzz Williams as its next men’s basketball coach.

Adam Zagoria of the New York Times said Williams is a “done” deal, and Jon Rothstein of CBS Sports reported that A&M is expected to offer Williams a multi-year contract worth a minimum of $3.5 million annually, saying that the Aggies have no secondary candidate.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2019, 10:26:35 AM
@GarrettLemelin

According to sources close to the program, Whit Babcock’s short list to replace Buzz Williams includes, but is not limited to:
- Sean Miller
- Rick Pitino
- Will Wade
- Mark Gottfried

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"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying"

Interesting list, kind of a Recent Cheaters Hall of Fame.

Follow Buzz with Pitino? Why not? If getting even more high-profile and winning are most important, Pitino will definitely do that for VaTech. If he resurrects his career there and has the kind of success he almost surely would have, he'd be a short-timer there, but it would be a hell of a time for basketball at a football school.

Then again, the entire list seems like an April Fool's joke, but sure ... it's fun!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 01, 2019, 10:27:19 AM
@GarrettLemelin

According to sources close to the program, Whit Babcock’s short list to replace Buzz Williams includes, but is not limited to:
- Sean Miller
- Rick Pitino
- Will Wade
- Mark Gottfried

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"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying"

Note the date, Heise.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 01, 2019, 10:28:32 AM
Blogger that covers VT sports ....

@gobblingmaniac 2h

I will say this. If we make it to end of business today with Buzz Williams as our coach it’s time to start questioning some of these reports. So far, no Buzz Williams branding has been removed from any social media account.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 01, 2019, 10:29:47 AM
Note the date, Heise.

It was tweeted on Saturday.  Have things changed that much?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU B2002 on April 01, 2019, 10:31:05 AM
If Wojo is flying out to talk to VPI, why wouldn't he just fly into Blacksburg?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 01, 2019, 10:36:53 AM
It was tweeted on Saturday.  Have things changed that much?

If you don't think that is a joke...I don't know what to say.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 01, 2019, 10:44:11 AM
If you don't think that is a joke...I don't know what to say.

It was tweeted March 30, not April fool's

Could it be a joke? Sure.  But the fact remains this is a list of highly successful coaches that win and play in the second and third week of the tournament.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 01, 2019, 10:56:11 AM
It was tweeted March 30, not April fool's

Could it be a joke? Sure.  But the fact remains this is a list of highly successful coaches that win and play in the second and third week of the tournament.

Guy is straight out of VT frat (fan) boy 101. And he literally says it’s a joke in the comments
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 01, 2019, 11:20:59 AM
Guy is straight out of VT frat (fan) boy 101. And he literally says it’s a joke in the comments

Yup, best to read the whole thread of comments
https://twitter.com/GarrettLemelin/status/1112093432841932800
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 01, 2019, 11:21:52 AM
 Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria

This is the wildest, most fun, Coaching Carousel Dominoes theory I've heard in a long time:
Buzz Williams to Texas A&M
Kevin Willard to Virginia Tech
Tim Cluess to Seton Hall
Jared Grasso to Iona.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Small Orange Soda on April 01, 2019, 11:24:23 AM
Starting over with a new coach, new style.  The players here may not fit his style of play, could transfer.  My hope is this is nothing but hot air from people wanting to do harm to our program.

Certainly possible, but losing a coach doesn't make a big rebuild inevitable.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 11:29:14 AM
Certainly possible, but losing a coach doesn't make a big rebuild inevitable.

+1000
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: pbiflyer on April 01, 2019, 12:01:23 PM
@GarrettLemelin

According to sources close to the program, Whit Babcock’s short list to replace Buzz Williams includes, but is not limited to:
- Sean Miller
- Rick Pitino
- Will Wade
- Mark Gottfried

-----

"If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying"


At this time, I would like to announce that, if I need to replace my wife, my short list includes, but not limited to:

Charlize Theron
Scarlett Johansson
Angelina Jolie
Natalie Portman
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 01, 2019, 12:16:14 PM
If Wojo is flying out to talk to VPI, why wouldn't he just fly into Blacksburg?

Not necessarily. Many initial in-person contacts with candidates don't take place on campus.  They are often at an airport hotel so they can fly in and fly out and not be seen by fans, so I could see such a meeting taking place near Dulles or National.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: jsglow on April 01, 2019, 12:27:42 PM

At this time, I would like to announce that, if I need to replace my wife, my short list includes, but not limited to:

Charlize Theron
Scarlett Johansson
Angelina Jolie
Natalie Portman

Well played. I'll let J know.  ;D
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: warriorchick on April 01, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
Well played. I'll let J know.  ;D

Well, if anything happens to Glow, my short list includes

Frederick, Crown Prince of Denmark
Sterling K. Brown
Aaron Rodgers (I know, I know, but I can be just as good of a beard as Danica)
Any available Hemsworth
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 01, 2019, 06:39:34 PM
Internet detectives are on the case

https://twitter.com/techlunchpaild/status/1112850740366774272?s=21
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 01, 2019, 06:43:43 PM
Internet detectives are on the case

https://twitter.com/techlunchpaild/status/1112850740366774272?s=21

The idea that someone flying from Waukesha to Roanoke and someone else flying from Waukesha to Gary, Indiana is somehow strong evidence Wojo is taking the job is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 01, 2019, 06:47:08 PM
Who knows, maybe Wojo ends up at Va Tech after all.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 01, 2019, 06:48:05 PM
The idea that someone flying from Waukesha to Roanoke and someone else flying from Waukesha to Gary, Indiana is somehow strong evidence Wojo is taking the job is pretty funny.

especially since there's the kenosha airport and the chicago exec airport both of which would make exponentially more sense than gary.

Never going to say it's impossible but they're grasping there.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 01, 2019, 06:52:48 PM
Might be against code, but this is from VT VIP 247 writer an hour or so ago:

“Once that is done I expect the search to conclude very quickly and every single sign and communication points toward Wojo being the next coach at Virginia Tech. There are still some things that need to happen, Buzz officially moving is a big one, but a massive amount of smoke around Wojciechowski. I’ll share more as it becomes available but didn’t want this to get lost in other threads.”
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 01, 2019, 06:54:19 PM
Who knows, he might be moving on.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: KampusFoods on April 01, 2019, 06:55:00 PM
Who knows, he might be moving on.

Who gives a chit?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on April 01, 2019, 06:56:37 PM
Holy crap. That guy is putting too much work into that twitter thread.

But he convinced me! A guy who has connections flew Wojo to Gary Indiana and wojo’s family will fly from Waukesha to Gary Indiana to announce he is leaving Marquette for Virginia Tech which is in Virginia. But announcing from Indian makes sense because it is in Indiana. And it’s not chicago or Virginia so it just makes sense cause Wojo has a connection to Indiana which is Butler who he’s coached against. So it’s a done deal.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 01, 2019, 06:59:55 PM
Kampus

I believe there are folks on this site who are interested in the men’s basketball program has for a head coach.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Norm on April 01, 2019, 07:02:46 PM
If Wojo leaves for VT then his supposed rationale for passing up previous offers before leaving Duke for MU seems pretty vacuous. Even Coach K called in to Homer and Steve’s radio show this year to tout what a unique job and history Marquette offered. Leaving MU for a UCLA? Sure, I can see that. But VT has no basketball history basically until Buzz took them 3 years in a row and to their first Sweet 16. Plus, the cupboard is gonna be pretty bare there next year. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: KampusFoods on April 01, 2019, 07:03:04 PM
Kampus

I believe there are folks on this site who are interested in the men’s basketball program has for a head coach.

Ya, just trying to convey my indifference toward our standing HC.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 07:05:06 PM
If Wojo leaves for VT then his supposed rationale for passing up previous offers before leaving Duke for MU seems pretty vacuous. Even Coach K called in to Homer and Steve’s radio show this year to tout what a unique job and history Marquette offered. Leaving MU for a UCLA? Sure, I can see that. But VT has no basketball history basically until Buzz took them 3 years in a row and to their first Sweet 16. Plus, the cupboard is gonna be pretty bare there next year. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.


It makes A TON of sense if you consider 4 things.. 1. It's MUCH closer to home for him(that matters to a lot of people) 2. Better recruiting area 3. MUCH better conference and where his roots are 4. 3.5 mill per year as an offer if what i saw was true.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 01, 2019, 07:06:41 PM
Kampus

Sounds good.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 07:08:09 PM
According to posters here...a news station reporter reported Wojo is their guy..

https://virginiatech.sportswar.com/message_board/vtbasketball/
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 01, 2019, 07:10:16 PM
The idea that someone flying from Waukesha to Roanoke and someone else flying from Waukesha to Gary, Indiana is somehow strong evidence Wojo is taking the job is pretty funny.



Kant bee Wojo 'cuz heed fly outta Mequon International, aina?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 01, 2019, 07:12:43 PM
Were we this bad with Shaka? I remember one flight tracker post but that was it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 01, 2019, 07:15:07 PM
Were we this bad with Shaka? I remember one flight tracker post but that was it.

Personally, I always get a little worried when Gary, IN is at the  center of my consipiracy theories. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 🏀 on April 01, 2019, 07:16:37 PM
According to posters here...a news station reporter reported Wojo is their guy..

https://virginiatech.sportswar.com/message_board/vtbasketball/

Their guy for a job that isn't vacant.

I can say with 99% certainty Wojo isn't going to VT. And he just spent the last week on Spring Break with the kids.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 07:20:13 PM
Their guy for a job that isn't vacant.

I can say with 99% certainty Wojo isn't going to VT. And he just spent the last week on Spring Break with the kids.

So because he spent last week on spring break with the kids, means he's not going to VT?? I mean he probably isn't, I don't disagree with that but saying he spent last week with the kids on Spring Break isn't relevant to anything about him going to or not going to VT.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Eldon on April 01, 2019, 07:20:57 PM
Holy crap. That guy is putting too much work into that twitter thread.

But he convinced me! A guy who has connections flew Wojo to Gary Indiana and wojo’s family will fly from Waukesha to Gary Indiana to announce he is leaving Marquette for Virginia Tech which is in Virginia. But announcing from Indian makes sense because it is in Indiana. And it’s not chicago or Virginia so it just makes sense cause Wojo has a connection to Indiana which is Butler who he’s coached against. So it’s a done deal.

Someone posted this gif...PERFECT LMAO

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 01, 2019, 07:21:14 PM
Their guy for a job that isn't vacant.

I can say with 99% certainty Wojo isn't going to VT. And he just spent the last week on Spring Break with the kids.

Heard they vacationed in Gary, IN.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 🏀 on April 01, 2019, 07:22:50 PM
Heard they vacationed in Gary, IN.

Great carp fishing this time of the year.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on April 01, 2019, 07:23:59 PM
According to posters here...a news station reporter reported Wojo is their guy..

https://virginiatech.sportswar.com/message_board/vtbasketball/
This...is annoying
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jockey on April 01, 2019, 07:26:28 PM
Heard they vacationed in Gary, IN.

Well, it IS the hub of the midwest. Where else would he even think of making the announcement from?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on April 01, 2019, 07:27:46 PM
Someone posted this gif...PERFECT LMAO

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA/giphy.gif)

Carol CAAAAAAROL!

There is noooo carol.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 🏀 on April 01, 2019, 07:28:08 PM
Well, it IS the hub of the midwest. Where else would he even think of making the announcement from?

We'll, I believe the Fort Wayne Holiday Inn conference center was booked. So.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Cooby Snacks on April 01, 2019, 07:28:11 PM
Well, it IS the hub of the midwest. Where else would he even think of making the announcement from?

“It’s (Gary) Indiana, it’s (Gary) Indiana.”
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on April 01, 2019, 07:28:20 PM
According to posters here...a news station reporter reported Wojo is their guy..

https://virginiatech.sportswar.com/message_board/vtbasketball/
Nothing said on  Lane Casadonte twitter page. Maybe he said it on their newscast.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jockey on April 01, 2019, 07:29:06 PM
Don't bring common sense into this.  For some reason, some people think a new coach will be like Samantha Stevens wiggling her nose.

Mr. Curry called to say it was Samantha StePHens.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jockey on April 01, 2019, 07:31:53 PM
Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria

This is the wildest, most fun, Coaching Carousel Dominoes theory I've heard in a long time:
Buzz Williams to Texas A&M
Kevin Willard to Virginia Tech
Tim Cluess to Seton Hall
Jared Grasso to Iona.

Nope.

Doesn't fit the Scoop rumor trajectory.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 07:32:16 PM
Nothing said on  Lane Casadonte twitter page. Maybe he said it on their newscast.

Yes that's what they were saying, it was on the newscast.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 01, 2019, 07:37:39 PM
Great carp fishing this time of the year.

The Ron Kittle birthplace is on fire on TripAdvisor.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 🏀 on April 01, 2019, 07:40:56 PM
The Ron Kittle birthplace is on fire on TripAdvisor.

Probably trying to get all that Michael Jackson sightseeing in before they are all removed.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warrior of Law on April 01, 2019, 07:48:57 PM
If Va Tech is looking for a coach when they have a coach, then MU should have a short list of candidates just in case.  My guess is that they do already.  Never want to be caught with your pants down at this time of year.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TedBaxter on April 01, 2019, 07:54:41 PM
If Va Tech is looking for a coach when they have a coach, then MU should have a short list of candidates just in case.  My guess is that they do already.  Never want to be caught with your pants down at this time of year.

I wouldn't worry.  Take your time.  If someone wants the job bad enough, they'll wait.  If not, you promote an assistant keep building what has been started.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: SERocks on April 01, 2019, 07:55:52 PM
Again, I would assert the best evidence that Wojo is not going anywhere is to ask why would someone want him?  His accomplishments as a coach are a dime a dozen out there.   Not exactly a hot coaching hire.   I would be surprised if anyone is interested at this juncture.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warrior of Law on April 01, 2019, 08:00:48 PM
Good point.  It would likely be a matter of Wojo running away from something than being attracted to something better.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 01, 2019, 08:04:02 PM
SERocks

I tend to agree your post. I still believe it is a non story.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 01, 2019, 08:05:04 PM
Again, I would assert the best evidence that Wojo is not going anywhere is to ask why would someone want him?  His accomplishments as a coach are a dime a dozen out there.   Not exactly a hot coaching hire.   I would be surprised if anyone is interested at this juncture.

A small but vocal sect of Marquette fans are the only ones who would not view Wojo as a solid candidate for the VT job.

That being said, while I'm sure that Wojo is on VT's wishlist, that wish is not going to come true.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 01, 2019, 08:11:02 PM
TAMU

I really have been trying hard to find any info that might indicate this is a real story and completely striking out. One person I checked with today, actually laughed when I asked about the rumor.

This would be the biggest secret in MU ball history if he is a real candidate. I do not believe Wojo is viable candidate for any other job than MU at this point of his career.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 08:11:21 PM
I wouldn't worry.  Take your time.  If someone wants the job bad enough, they'll wait.  If not, you promote an assistant keep building what has been started.

I think this is a home run post, as usual from Ted...IF Wojo left right now, you promote Stan for next year and after that, do a full blown search(or keep Stan if he does good enough). There may be better candidates available next year...no need to rush it, just get the right guy
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 08:12:29 PM
TAMU

I really have been trying hard to find any info that might indicate this is a real story and completely striking out. One person I checked with today, actually laughed when I asked about the rumor.

This would be the biggest secret in MU ball history if he is a real candidate. I do not believe Wojo is viable candidate for any other job than MU at this point of his career.

Not saying it's real...who knows what to believe on the internet, but there are VT insiders saying it's a possibility.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 01, 2019, 08:13:31 PM
guru

You lost me with the hire Stan for a year and then do full blown search. Trust me, that’s not big time thinking.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 01, 2019, 08:16:46 PM
TAMU

I really have been trying hard to find any info that might indicate this is a real story and completely striking out. One person I checked with today, actually laughed when I asked about the rumor.

This would be the biggest secret in MU ball history if he is a real candidate. I do not believe Wojo is viable candidate for any other job than MU at this point of his career.

1st paragraph, yep.

2nd paragraph, I don't think so. There's a reason these rumors exist, likely because he is on VT's wishlist to replace Buzz.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 01, 2019, 08:19:06 PM
I'm hearing things.

Not good.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 08:19:43 PM
guru

You lost me with the hire Stan for a year and then do full blown search. Trust me, that’s not big time thinking.

I know it's not...I have plenty of names I would pursue right now if it happened, but I'm not putting them here on the board because of the small time thinking by most posters here and all the "get real" posts I would get in response.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 08:20:30 PM
I'm hearing things.

Not good.

I hear voices in my head all the time to Ziggy, no one wants to know what mine say.  :P
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Eldon on April 01, 2019, 08:23:38 PM
I'm hearing things.

Not good.

So...is Wojo gone or staying?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on April 01, 2019, 08:24:27 PM
I'm hearing things.

Not good.
We’re really going to be VPIs developmental league for coaches?! Wow. I don’t really even care about losing Wojo but that would be very eye opening
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: jesmu84 on April 01, 2019, 08:28:37 PM
I think this is a home run post, as usual from Ted...IF Wojo left right now, you promote Stan for next year and after that, do a full blown search(or keep Stan if he does good enough). There may be better candidates available next year...no need to rush it, just get the right guy

What?! Give the job to an assistant coach?? Guru would be pissed if he heard that idea! Small time thinking for sure. We can easily get a major p6 head coach and he would bring in recruits/transfers better than our roster. Jeez.

An assistant??!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 01, 2019, 08:37:41 PM
This is such a conundrum for some of you folks on Scoop.  on the one hand, you want Wojo gone.  On the other, you don't want to be a steppingstone to VPI.  I'm really enjoying this...

Personally, if Marquette is withholding a contract extension i don't blame him for jumping for a lot more money.  I also think Marquette will be poorer for the decision.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: SERocks on April 01, 2019, 08:38:31 PM
I'm hearing things.

Not good.

What?  Wojo's staying?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: jesmu84 on April 01, 2019, 08:41:01 PM
What?  Wojo's staying?

Ziggy, I think, would want Wojo gone. So if he is actually hearing anything, it would be Wojo staying.

...I think
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: SERocks on April 01, 2019, 08:47:02 PM
Well I am on record as a non-Wojo fan in favor of him staying.   Stability.  He is getting better.   However if he left I would not shed a tear.   Building what we want though takes the right guy and more than five years.   Not sure Wojo is right.  But if he is we won't have it if he leaves.....
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: jficke13 on April 01, 2019, 08:47:33 PM
I'm hearing things.

Not good.

lol nice playbook.

Vaguebook.

Enjoy people ascribing insider knowledge.

Profit.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 08:47:37 PM
What?! Give the job to an assistant coach?? Guru would be pissed if he heard that idea! Small time thinking for sure. We can easily get a major p6 head coach and he would bring in recruits/transfers better than our roster. Jeez.

An assistant??!

jes...you know what?? You are one of the many small time thinkers on this board...and quite frankly it's nauseating. I have seen VERY few that think MU can do better than a Wojo type...I assure you they can...I see names like Wardle etc, and it literally makes me throw up in my mouth...is MU DePaul?? As I said, I have PLENTY of ideas of who I would pursue that are current P6 Coaches that YES would entertain the idea at the very least...but I'm not going to share them because the "small thinking" crowd will just ridicule and say it's not realistic, so why bother??

Worst thing is, I don't think the administration thinks big anymore either..I think they are perfectly content with a program that has good kids, wins some and makes the tournament every couple of years...ya know, mid majorish.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Nukem2 on April 01, 2019, 08:49:19 PM
jes...you know what?? You are one of the many small time thinkers on this board...and quite frankly it's nauseating. I have seen VERY few that think MU can do better than a Wojo type...I assure you they can...I see names like Wardle etc, and it literally makes me throw up in my mouth...is MU DePaul?? As I said, I have PLENTY of ideas of who I would pursue that are current P6 Coaches that YES would entertain the idea at the very least...but I'm not going to share them because the "small thinking" crowd will just ridicule and say it's not realistic, so why bother??

Worst thing is, I don't think the administration thinks big anymore either..I think they are perfectly content with a program that has good kids, wins some and makes the tournament every couple of years...ya know, mid majorish.
Mud majors make the NCAAs every other year.  What planet are you from?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: jesmu84 on April 01, 2019, 08:51:43 PM
jes...you know what?? You are one of the many small time thinkers on this board...and quite frankly it's nauseating. I have seen VERY few that think MU can do better than a Wojo type...I assure you they can...I see names like Wardle etc, and it literally makes me throw up in my mouth...is MU DePaul?? As I said, I have PLENTY of ideas of who I would pursue that are current P6 Coaches that YES would entertain the idea at the very least...but I'm not going to share them because the "small thinking" crowd will just ridicule and say it's not realistic, so why bother??

Worst thing is, I don't think the administration thinks big anymore either..I think they are perfectly content with a program that has good kids, wins some and makes the tournament every couple of years...ya know, mid majorish.

You might have GERD. See your PCP
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on April 01, 2019, 08:51:52 PM
jes...you know what?? You are one of the many small time thinkers on this board...and quite frankly it's nauseating. I have seen VERY few that think MU can do better than a Wojo type...I assure you they can...I see names like Wardle etc, and it literally makes me throw up in my mouth...is MU DePaul?? As I said, I have PLENTY of ideas of who I would pursue that are current P6 Coaches that YES would entertain the idea at the very least...but I'm not going to share them because the "small thinking" crowd will just ridicule and say it's not realistic, so why bother??

Worst thing is, I don't think the administration thinks big anymore either..I think they are perfectly content with a program that has good kids, wins some and makes the tournament every couple of years...ya know, mid majorish.

Dude. Calling people out for wanting different hires?

You’re not very nice. And you pleaded for people to not post April fools jokes because it’s immature yet here you talking like this.

“Do as I say! Not as I do” -Guru
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 08:53:01 PM
Mud majors make the NCAAs every other year.  What planet are you from?

Should MU think and act like they are Dayton or DePaul?? That's small time...programs like MU should be in the NCAA's every year(with the every 5 years or so occasional miss depending on circumstances).
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Oregon Warrior on April 01, 2019, 08:54:52 PM
This is such a conundrum for some of you folks on Scoop.  on the one hand, you want Wojo gone.  On the other, you don't want to be a steppingstone to VPI.  I'm really enjoying this...

Personally, if Marquette is withholding a contract extension i don't blame him for jumping for a lot more money.  I also think Marquette will be poorer for the decision.

I would applaud the administration for not handing Wojo an extension simply out of fear of losing him. What has he done thats deserving of having his contract extended beyond 2022? I’m not hoping he leaves, but the administration shouldn’t be making decisions out of fear.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 01, 2019, 08:56:06 PM
This is such a conundrum for some of you folks on Scoop.  on the one hand, you want Wojo gone.  On the other, you don't want to be a steppingstone to VPI.  I'm really enjoying this...

Personally, if Marquette is withholding a contract extension i don't blame him for jumping for a lot more money.  I also think Marquette will be poorer for the decision.


The posters who think Marquette is too big time for Wojo are going to find the next few weeks very infuriating if this comes to pass.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 09:05:27 PM
I would applaud the administration for not handing Wojo an extension simply out of fear of losing him. What has he done thats deserving of having his contract extended beyond 2022? I’m not hoping he leaves, but the administration shouldn’t be making decisions out of fear.

Exactly this...absolutely extend him if he has earned it, but has he?? Plus, his contract runs for another 3 years, why the need to extend it now??
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 01, 2019, 09:18:36 PM
Personally, I always get a little worried when Gary, IN is at the  center of my consipiracy theories.

Yeah, I think someone is leaving some soft clues.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 01, 2019, 09:19:24 PM
If Wojo was seriously considering leaving, I doubt 2 things.

1. That Marquette would have released Banquet information with the following statement: "
Please join Head Coach Steve Wojciechowski, the staff and the players as we recognize the 2018-19 Marquette Men’s Basketball team! "

2. That he would have taken the time to film an episode of Inside Marquette Basketball with Koby.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Oregon Warrior on April 01, 2019, 09:21:07 PM
If Wojo leaves because VA Tech offers him a longer term deal that MU is unwilling to offer, it’s hard to blame the guy for leaving. But why should the administration let Wojo leverage them into extending the contact of a coach they’re unsure about?

Say they offer him a 4-year extension and then Wojo tanks next year. Now they want to can him, but can’t because they’d have to buy out the six years left on his contract.

Either way, we’re about to find out what the administration truly thinks of Wojo.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on April 01, 2019, 09:24:30 PM
I think this is a home run post, as usual from Ted...IF Wojo left right now, you promote Stan for next year and after that, do a full blown search(or keep Stan if he does good enough). There may be better candidates available next year...no need to rush it, just get the right guy

You lack a lot of common sense in my opinion. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 01, 2019, 09:25:18 PM
Exactly this...absolutely extend him if he has earned it, but has he?? Plus, his contract runs for another 3 years, why the need to extend it now??

Contracts and contract extensions mean very little in this sport.  Just ask Nate Oats, who signed a 5 year extension with a $750,000 buyout as a nice parting gift to Buffalo mere days before he signed with Alabama.   Many schools provide their coaches with a rolling 1-year extension (see Gard, Greg) to make sure the tenure "officially" extend to the graduation year of the class they are recruiting.  You hardly ever hear of someone leaving a school because their contract ran out.  Offer him a small raise but reduce his buyout.  It has no bearing on Marquette's future options with respect to a basketball coach.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 09:26:59 PM
Contracts and contract extensions mean very little in this sport.  Just ask Nate Oats, who signed a 5 year extension with a $750,000 buyout as a nice parting gift to Buffalo mere days before he signed with Alabama.   Many schools provide their coaches with a rolling 1-year extension (see Gard, Greg) to make sure the tenure "officially" extend to the graduation year of the class they are recruiting.  You hardly ever hear of someone leaving a school because their contract ran out.  Offer him a small raise but reduce his buyout.  It has no bearing on Marquette's future options with respect to a basketball coach.

You're right, extensions don't mean anything..we have all seen that many times.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 01, 2019, 09:29:22 PM
Mud majors make the NCAAs every other year.  What planet are you from?

Geology University is a middle-earth major.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Oregon Warrior on April 01, 2019, 09:40:33 PM
You're right, extensions don't mean anything..we have all seen that many times.

They don’t mean much to the coach if he leaves for a new gig because the new school pays the buyout. They mean a lot to the the current school because they pay a hefty buyout if they fire the coach.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: real chili 83 on April 01, 2019, 09:41:02 PM
jes...you know what?? You are one of the many small time thinkers on this board...and quite frankly it's nauseating. I have seen VERY few that think MU can do better than a Wojo type...I assure you they can...I see names like Wardle etc, and it literally makes me throw up in my mouth...is MU DePaul?? As I said, I have PLENTY of ideas of who I would pursue that are current P6 Coaches that YES would entertain the idea at the very least...but I'm not going to share them because the "small thinking" crowd will just ridicule and say it's not realistic, so why bother??

Worst thing is, I don't think the administration thinks big anymore either..I think they are perfectly content with a program that has good kids, wins some and makes the tournament every couple of years...ya know, mid majorish.

I must be right because I am screaming the loudest.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 01, 2019, 09:49:13 PM
jes...you know what?? You are one of the many small time thinkers on this board...and quite frankly it's nauseating. I have seen VERY few that think MU can do better than a Wojo type...I assure you they can...I see names like Wardle etc, and it literally makes me throw up in my mouth...is MU DePaul?? As I said, I have PLENTY of ideas of who I would pursue that are current P6 Coaches that YES would entertain the idea at the very least...but I'm not going to share them because the "small thinking" crowd will just ridicule and say it's not realistic, so why bother??

Worst thing is, I don't think the administration thinks big anymore either..I think they are perfectly content with a program that has good kids, wins some and makes the tournament every couple of years...ya know, mid majorish.

Guru: Marquette invests way too much in its basketball program to get these kinds of unsatisfying results.

Also Guru: Marquette thinks too small and would be satisfied as a  mid-major.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2019, 09:51:17 PM
Should MU think and act like they are Dayton or DePaul?? That's small time...programs like MU should be in the NCAA's every year(with the every 5 years or so occasional miss depending on circumstances).

Weren't you the guy praising Beard up and down? You know what head coaching experience he had before going to Texas Tech -- 4 seasons: 1 at a National Christian Conference (whatever that is) school, 2 at a D2 school and 1 at a mid-major. Was Texas Tech going "small time" with that hire?
Title: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 01, 2019, 10:04:52 PM
See this entire thread, including the tweet with all the machinations about flights to Gary Indiana and how that means Wojo is in Blacksburg tonight.

Does this make any sense to you?

https://techlunchpail.com/2019/04/01/rumors-flight-patterns-pointing-buzz-williams-steve-wojciechowski-virginia-tech/
While there is nothing that can be confirmed at this time, the smoke continues to point towards Buzz Williams leaving Virginia Tech for Texas A&M while all of these flights seem unlikely to just be coincidental and point heavily towards Marquette’s Steve Wojciechowski as the leading candidate to replace Williams if he does leave for Texas A&M as expected.

And you thought Wojo deactivated his Twitter account to avoid the anger at losing to Murray State.  You think small!

@MattHetrick
Heard Virginia Tech is looking at Wojo as a possible head coach since it looks like Buzz is headed to Texas A&M... and wouldn’t you know his Twitter seems to have been deactivated. Very interesting indeed. (@steve_wojo)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 01, 2019, 10:06:05 PM
I hear voices in my head all the time to Ziggy, no one wants to know what mine say.  :P

we all know what your voices say...it's the mouth vomit that you type out after every poor game.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 01, 2019, 10:07:07 PM
The idea that someone flying from Waukesha to Roanoke and someone else flying from Waukesha to Gary, Indiana is somehow strong evidence Wojo is taking the job is pretty funny.

Our next coach will be named Gary.

Book it.

Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: DegenerateDish on April 01, 2019, 10:09:43 PM
Jesus.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 01, 2019, 10:11:00 PM
NM
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: marquette20 on April 01, 2019, 10:24:20 PM
Not trying to play into this at all but Markus and Brendan were in Michigan City, Indiana this weekend. Not quite sure why and if anyone else was there.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: fjm on April 01, 2019, 10:26:17 PM
See this entire thread, including the tweet with all the machinations about flights to Gary Indiana and how that means Wojo is in Blacksburg tonight.

Does this make any sense to you?

https://techlunchpail.com/2019/04/01/rumors-flight-patterns-pointing-buzz-williams-steve-wojciechowski-virginia-tech/
While there is nothing that can be confirmed at this time, the smoke continues to point towards Buzz Williams leaving Virginia Tech for Texas A&M while all of these flights seem unlikely to just be coincidental and point heavily towards Marquette’s Steve Wojciechowski as the leading candidate to replace Williams if he does leave for Texas A&M as expected.

And you thought Wojo deactivated his Twitter account to avoid the anger at losing to Murray State.  You think small!

@MattHetrick
Heard Virginia Tech is looking at Wojo as a possible head coach since it looks like Buzz is headed to Texas A&M... and wouldn’t you know his Twitter seems to have been deactivated. Very interesting indeed. (@steve_wojo)

Wait WHAT? I have not heard about this at all!!!
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2019, 10:29:51 PM
Wojo.

Grassy knoll.

Nuff said.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 01, 2019, 10:31:45 PM
Not trying to play into this at all but Markus and Brendan were in Michigan City, Indiana this weekend. Not quite sure why and if anyone else was there.

Meet up with Morty at the Blue Chip?
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: muguru on April 01, 2019, 10:37:47 PM
Wojo.

Grassy knoll.

Nuff said.

MU82..i really do think you're a good guy and for your sake I hope Wojo doesn't leave..I think you'd be truly devastated and I'd hate to see that.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: wadesworld on April 01, 2019, 10:48:07 PM
really need to start a new thread?  really?

It's what he does.  Start new thread, create clickbate name that sometimes relates to the subject of the thread and sometimes doesn't, and copy and paste an article, usually not actually siting the source.

And then makes a namechange when people realize (by post #2) who it is and that his name simply changed.

Not trying to play into this at all but Markus and Brendan were in Michigan City, Indiana this weekend. Not quite sure why and if anyone else was there.

That's where people affiliated with Marquette basketball go to ask Marquette for their release.  Call it the exit bunker.  Wojo, Brendan, and Markus all flying down to Blacksburg to visit their next home.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: MU82 on April 01, 2019, 10:50:20 PM
MU82..i really do think you're a good guy and for your sake I hope Wojo doesn't leave..I think you'd be truly devastated and I'd hate to see that.

I'd only be devastated if we replaced him with some clown who spent the previous 4 years at a National Christian Conference school, a D2 school and a mid-major.

But thanks. I am a good guy!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on April 01, 2019, 11:01:54 PM
Again, I would assert the best evidence that Wojo is not going anywhere is to ask why would someone want him?  His accomplishments as a coach are a dime a dozen out there.   Not exactly a hot coaching hire.   I would be surprised if anyone is interested at this juncture.

Because non-MU fans aren't so emotional about how the season ended and realize he has this program in a far better place than where it was when he took over.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on April 01, 2019, 11:04:17 PM
TAMU

I really have been trying hard to find any info that might indicate this is a real story and completely striking out. One person I checked with today, actually laughed when I asked about the rumor.

This would be the biggest secret in MU ball history if he is a real candidate. I do not believe Wojo is viable candidate for any other job than MU at this point of his career.

You've made this perfectly clear.  If Wojo is listed as a potential coach a school would look at you write it off as a dumb journalist who doesn't know anything.  Until Wojo accepts another job you will stand by "Wojo sucks and nobody would ever want him."
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on April 01, 2019, 11:07:40 PM
I would applaud the administration for not handing Wojo an extension simply out of fear of losing him. What has he done thats deserving of having his contract extended beyond 2022? I’m not hoping he leaves, but the administration shouldn’t be making decisions out of fear.

Improved the program every year he's been to, up to a 5 seed and 2nd in the conference this season.  If his program continues again next year, that's pretty dang good.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: SlowJoe on April 01, 2019, 11:56:47 PM
Not trying to play into this at all but Markus and Brendan were in Michigan City, Indiana this weekend. Not quite sure why and if anyone else was there.
Michigan City is Buddy Jaffee's hometown
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: hairy worthen on April 02, 2019, 07:23:43 AM
Jesus.
Wait. You want Jesus as the next coach? That’s a NCAA violation waiting to happen with all that handing over wine from water and endless bread and fish and such. Plus I see a real problem with a player and potential betrayal.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 02, 2019, 07:32:39 AM
Our next coach will be named Gary.

Book it.

Too late - Mercer got him before we could act.

https://mercerbears.com/news/2019/3/26/greg-gary-hired-to-lead-mercer-mens-basketball-program.aspx (https://mercerbears.com/news/2019/3/26/greg-gary-hired-to-lead-mercer-mens-basketball-program.aspx)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 02, 2019, 07:47:41 AM
Wait. You want Jesus as the next coach? That’s a NCAA violation waiting to happen with all that handing over wine from water and endless bread and fish and such. Plus I see a real problem with a player and potential betrayal.

guru would be pissed with the turning the other cheek crap.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 08:05:25 AM
guru would be pissed with the turning the other cheek crap.

But the crucifiction thing could be appealing.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 02, 2019, 08:09:30 AM
But the crucifiction thing could be appealing.


Until he shows up three days later
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: tower912 on April 02, 2019, 08:18:25 AM
Maybe he could get his players to Passover the top to the post.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Its DJOver on April 02, 2019, 08:19:58 AM
Getting nailed to the bench just got a whole lot more serious.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 02, 2019, 08:29:48 AM
Once a year the team will get together to practice slapping five until their hands hurt.  It will be known as Palm Sunday.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 02, 2019, 08:31:13 AM
Cannot wait until we rise next year.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: brewcity77 on April 02, 2019, 08:37:52 AM
Wait. You want Jesus as the next coach? That’s a NCAA violation waiting to happen with all that handing over wine from water and endless bread and fish and such. Plus I see a real problem with a player and potential betrayal.

He does have a proven NBA pedigree...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/christ-returns-to-nba-1819563859/amp
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 08:39:58 AM
He does have a proven NBA pedigree...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/christ-returns-to-nba-1819563859/amp

So it sounds like he can recruit disciples
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warriors4ever on April 02, 2019, 08:40:28 AM
But we would be the only fan base who could truly believe that our coach walks on water.......
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 02, 2019, 08:44:17 AM
Because non-MU fans aren't so emotional about how the season ended and realize he has this program in a far better place than where it was when he took over.

I think you're confusing "team" with "program". The program Wojo inherited had won 7 NCAA tournament games in the previous 4 years. It was two years removed from a Big East title (when the Big East was the premier conference in the country). Our last 3 teams had gone 9-9, 14-4 and 14-4 in the conference. It had been to the tournament 8 times in the previous 9 years. He inherited the Al, an NBA arena (since updated) and a strong financial commitment from the university. Certainly he produced a better "team" this year than the one he inherited but I would argue that he has a long way to go to get the "program" back to where it was under Buzz (or even Crean).
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
But we would be the only fan base who could truly believe that our coach walks on water.......

I don’t know.  At best, MU82 will be agnostic towards this hire.  At worst, he will throw all his Marquette gear on his neighbor’s yard.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: hairy worthen on April 02, 2019, 08:50:58 AM
He does have a proven NBA pedigree...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/christ-returns-to-nba-1819563859/amp
Damn thats funny, I love The Onion.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 02, 2019, 08:53:21 AM
So it sounds like he can recruit disciples

But he'll only use 12 scholarships at a time, until some transfers.  Only then will he add a 13th.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: cheebs09 on April 02, 2019, 08:58:08 AM
After Buzz and Crean, I don’t know if we want another coach with a God complex.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Marcus92 on April 02, 2019, 09:16:55 AM
Tired: Wojo to VT.

Wired: Markus Howard, Sam Hauser, Joey Hauser, Sacar Anim, Theo John and Brendan Bailey all transferring to VT to follow the coach that recruited them.

Book it. From trusted sources.
Title: Re: VT fans think that Wojo is going to VT
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 02, 2019, 09:19:00 AM
Not trying to play into this at all but Markus and Brendan were in Michigan City, Indiana this weekend. Not quite sure why and if anyone else was there.


Probably transferrin' ta Northwest Indiana State, aina?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GOO on April 02, 2019, 09:22:19 AM
So, I am not following, what would Michigan City or Gary have to do with any of this Wojo to VT stuff?  Please explain it to me.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on April 02, 2019, 09:29:18 AM
I think you're confusing "team" with "program". The program Wojo inherited had won 7 NCAA tournament games in the previous 4 years. It was two years removed from a Big East title (when the Big East was the premier conference in the country). Our last 3 teams had gone 9-9, 14-4 and 14-4 in the conference. It had been to the tournament 8 times in the previous 9 years. He inherited the Al, an NBA arena (since updated) and a strong financial commitment from the university. Certainly he produced a better "team" this year than the one he inherited but I would argue that he has a long way to go to get the "program" back to where it was under Buzz (or even Crean).

Fair.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 02, 2019, 09:30:17 AM
I don’t know.  At best, MU82 will be agnostic towards this hire.  At worst, he will throw all his Marquette gear on his neighbor’s yard.

Jesus F. Christ, Doc, if our new JC has a better year than this past season's two JC's did, I'd happily wear gear emblazoned with Ted Neeley's photo. Better than the Golden Chicken, for sure.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 02, 2019, 09:33:30 AM
So, I am not following, what would Michigan City or Gary have to do with any of this Wojo to VT stuff?  Please explain it to me.

Some plane registered to a VT booster flew from Gary IN to Roanoke, VA. A VT fan blog has convinced itself that the only reason that would happen is because the booster flew to Gary to pick up Wojo for an interview on VTs campus. Because if I'm a coach, I totally go with the school who makes me drive 2 to 3 hours though Chicago traffic to get to a private plane that could have picked me up 20 minutes from my house.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: irishwarrior14 on April 02, 2019, 09:36:09 AM
Jesus F. Christ, Doc, if our new JC has a better year than this past season's two JC's did, I'd happily wear gear emblazoned with Ted Neeley's photo. Better than the Golden Chicken, for sure.

Ted Neeley reference! Even Jeopardy would find that obscure, even during its Tournament of Champions.

Solid. Made my day already MU82. ("Everything's alright, everything's fine . . .")
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 02, 2019, 09:37:47 AM
Once a year the team will get together to practice slapping five until their hands hurt.  It will be known as Palm Sunday.

Ba-dum-bum. Ching!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Marcus92 on April 02, 2019, 09:40:57 AM
Tired: Buzz Williams to Texas A&M.

Wired: Buzz Williams to the Houston Rockets. Team owner Tilman Fertitta, who took over in 2017, has seen enough from head coach Mike D'Antonio to know he won't win an NBA title. And he sees one of the greatest basketball minds of his generation in Buzz.

#donedeal #youbetcha #nodoubtaboutit
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 02, 2019, 09:41:11 AM
Ted Neeley reference! Even Jeopardy would find that obscure, even during its Tournament of Champions.

Solid. Made my day already MU82. ("Everything's alright, everything's fine . . .")

I don't know how to love him ... what to do ... how to move him ...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Marcus92 on April 02, 2019, 09:47:32 AM
Sources report that Mike Deane will come out of retirement to replace Wojo as the next head coach of the Marquette men's basketball program.

#noquestionwhatsoever #notjustarumor #ifisayitenoughtimesitmustbetrue
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 10:09:37 AM
Sources report that Mike Deane will come out of retirement to replace Wojo as the next head coach of the Marquette men's basketball program.

#noquestionwhatsoever #notjustarumor #ifisayitenoughtimesitmustbetrue

DePaul already rehired Lazarus and brought him back from the dead. Not sure a second miracle is in the offing for MU too.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 02, 2019, 10:10:29 AM
I don't know how to love him ... what to do ... how to move him ...

Wojo would have managed better if he had a plan...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 02, 2019, 10:23:30 AM
I don’t know.  At best, MU82 will be agnostic towards this hire.  At worst, he will throw all his Marquette gear on his neighbor’s yard.

🐐 post
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2019, 10:23:49 AM
Wojo would have managed better if he had a plan...

What's with Buzz? Tell me what's a-happenin'.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NCMUFan on April 02, 2019, 10:25:21 AM
A couple of questions:
Would VT pass the Coach K sniff test?  MU did.
Wouldn't Wojo want to prove himself before possibly jumping ship?
I like Wojo, but let's see, two years of no tournaments, one year of NIT and two years of NCAA 1st round exits.

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Marcus92 on April 02, 2019, 10:26:20 AM
This was probably the last place I'd expect to read a reference to Jesus Christ Superstar. Scoop never fails to amaze.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on April 02, 2019, 10:27:57 AM
Quite a bit of smoke about Wojo to Virginia Tech last 24 hours.  Unfortunate if this true.  Starting over again is not my idea of moving forward and making progress when we are already making progress with the current staff.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on April 02, 2019, 10:29:43 AM
A couple of questions:
Would VT pass the Coach K sniff test?  MU did.
Wouldn't Wojo want to prove himself before possibly jumping ship?
I like Wojo, but let's see, two years of no tournaments, one year of NIT and two years of NCAA 1st round exits.

The order of operations does matter.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: DegenerateDish on April 02, 2019, 10:29:44 AM
Shuttleworth.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on April 02, 2019, 10:29:45 AM
Quite a bit of smoke about Wojo to Virginia Tech last 24 hours.  Unfortunate if this true.  Starting over again is not my idea of moving forward and making progress when we are already making progress with the current staff.
While the timing is not ideal we’d have to let it play out before knowing whether this was a set back or a blessing in disguise. There are upgrades to Wojo in terms of ability to coach.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
Quite a bit of smoke about Wojo to Virginia Tech last 24 hours.  Unfortunate if this true.  Starting over again is not my idea of moving forward and making progress when we are already making progress with the current staff.

A key question is whether the smoke is white or black ?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 02, 2019, 10:41:44 AM
Quite a bit of smoke about Wojo to Virginia Tech last 24 hours.  Unfortunate if this true.  Starting over again is not my idea of moving forward and making progress when we are already making progress with the current staff.

You and I have different definitions of smoke
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on April 02, 2019, 10:42:39 AM
Some plane registered to a VT booster flew from Gary IN to Roanoke, VA. A VT fan blog has convinced itself that the only reason that would happen is because the booster flew to Gary to pick up Wojo for an interview on VTs campus. Because if I'm a coach, I totally go with the school who makes me drive 2 to 3 hours though Chicago traffic to get to a private plane that could have picked me up 20 minutes from my house.

He was already hiding in the Michigan City, IN bunker knowing him, Markus, and Bailey were gowne.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 02, 2019, 10:43:05 AM
Quite a bit of smoke about Wojo to Virginia Tech last 24 hours.  Unfortunate if this true.  Starting over again is not my idea of moving forward and making progress when we are already making progress with the current staff.

But isn't all the "smoke" coming from one source ... some guy that thinks Marquette is a stone's throw from the Gary Indiana airport?

Without that, what else do we have?  It's all a circle jerk back to this post.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 02, 2019, 11:03:10 AM
But isn't all the "smoke" coming from one source ... some guy that thinks Marquette is a stone's throw from the Gary Indiana airport?

Without that, what else do we have?  It's all a circle jerk back to this post.

No, there are other VT people(completely separate from flightaware watch), that are saying similar things. It is not all based on this.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: warriorchick on April 02, 2019, 11:06:02 AM
I just can't imagine Wojo wanting to be known as the guy that takes the jobs  Buzz Williams doesn't want anymore.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on April 02, 2019, 11:07:57 AM
I just can't imagine Wojo wanting to be known as the guy that takes the jobs  Buzz Williams doesn't want anymore.
I just can’t imagine being known as the school that develops VT’s future coaches.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: onepost on April 02, 2019, 11:08:47 AM
No, there are other VT people(completely separate from flightaware watch), that are saying similar things. It is not all based on this.

Are you referring to the VT blogger who called Mick Cronin "Mark Cronin" and couldn't even spell Gregg Marshall correctly?
Is that your "other VT people"?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GOO on April 02, 2019, 11:08:57 AM
Some plane registered to a VT booster flew from Gary IN to Roanoke, VA. A VT fan blog has convinced itself that the only reason that would happen is because the booster flew to Gary to pick up Wojo for an interview on VTs campus. Because if I'm a coach, I totally go with the school who makes me drive 2 to 3 hours though Chicago traffic to get to a private plane that could have picked me up 20 minutes from my house.
Thank you.  Know I get it and I'm less concerned that we lose Wojo.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 02, 2019, 11:09:34 AM
This was probably the last place I'd expect to read a reference to Jesus Christ Superstar. Scoop never fails to amaze.


Yeah, and from Nads, of all people. Only in America, aina?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 02, 2019, 11:12:58 AM
I just can’t imagine being known as the school that develops VT’s future coaches.

Well we're already the school that develops Iowa states future players may as well extend that to coaches too
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: genious expert on April 02, 2019, 11:27:39 AM
You and I have different definitions of smoke

Correct. There’s literally no smoke other than some guy going off the rails tracking flights across the midwest. And the VT fans are playing a game of telephone and somehow coming to the conclusion that Wojo to VT is a #donedeal
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 02, 2019, 11:41:27 AM
No, there are other VT people(completely separate from flightaware watch), that are saying similar things. It is not all based on this.

I've been following this more closely than I care to admit, and there seems to be no smoke that does not originate with the SportsWar flight tracker guy.  Almost every new article or tweet points back to this rumor.  There have been mentions that, should Buzz leave, Wojo is on a list of coaches they are or could be interested in, but those have mostly died down since Saturday.  The really interesting thing is that there is no tracking of Buzz's movements.  Wouldn't that be the best way to show that your coach is leaving?

One thing I am curious about is Wojo's suspension of his twitter account.  I have assumed that it is because of all of the vitriol fans were tweeting at him regarding the end of season/NCAA losses.  I wouldn't want to read that crap either.  But maybe he is looking.  We'll know when we know.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 02, 2019, 11:44:11 AM
Wojo was in Milwaukee filming Inside Marquette Basketball yesterday. Can't believe people there is anything to these rumors.

The Markus rumors on the other hand...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 02, 2019, 11:51:44 AM
Wojo was in Milwaukee filming Inside Marquette Basketball yesterday. Can't believe people there is anything to these rumors.

The Markus rumors on the other hand...

You do realize him filming that means nothing right?? I mean until you are officially announced somewhere else, you are still the Coach at your current institution and have the same obligations as you have always had.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 02, 2019, 11:53:13 AM
You do realize him filming that means nothing right?? I mean until you are officially announced somewhere else, you are still the Coach at your current institution and have the same obligations as you have always had.

1. Not true. If MU knew he was leaving he wouldn't be filming anything. Nor should he.

2. My main point is he was in Milwaukee. Not anywhere else. Which disproves all of the "flight tracka" stuff.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 02, 2019, 11:55:05 AM
1. Not true. If MU knew he was leaving he wouldn't be filming anything. Nor should he.

2. My main point is he was in Milwaukee. Not anywhere else. Which disproves all of the "flight tracka" stuff.

He easily could've hopped on the flight back to milwaukee after the flight to gary dropped off his family. I mean come on that's only logical
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 02, 2019, 11:55:40 AM
1. Not true. If MU knew he was leaving he wouldn't be filming anything. Nor should he.

2. My main point is he was in Milwaukee. Not anywhere else. Which disproves all of the "flight tracka" stuff.


No one knows he's leaving.  Buzz hasn't even signed his A&M deal yet.  Really it doesn't indicate anything.

And as for #2, coaches don't really travel to interview for jobs like the rest of us schlubs.  They don't even step foot on campus until something is announced.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 02, 2019, 12:06:39 PM

No one knows he's leaving.  Buzz hasn't even signed his A&M deal yet.  Really it doesn't indicate anything.

And as for #2, coaches don't really travel to interview for jobs like the rest of us schlubs.  They don't even step foot on campus until something is announced.

No one knows he's leaving? Do you think Wojo is the type of guy to keep MU in the dark?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: cheebs09 on April 02, 2019, 12:07:13 PM
I feel like it’s more likely a GE Healthcare person using that plane rather than Wojo.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 02, 2019, 12:09:28 PM
No one knows he's leaving? Do you think Wojo is the type of guy to keep MU in the dark?


They taped the show yesterday. Buzz is still at VT. Wojo might be having preliminary conversations at most. None of that prevents him from doing his job here.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MUEng92 on April 02, 2019, 12:12:06 PM
But isn't all the "smoke" coming from one source ... some guy that thinks Marquette is a stone's throw from the Gary Indiana airport?

Well,  Marquette is in Michigan, which is close to Gary
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 🏀 on April 02, 2019, 12:13:06 PM
You do realize him filming that means nothing right?? I mean until you are officially announced somewhere else, you are still the Coach at your current institution and have the same obligations as you have always had.

Someone should have reminded Buzz this back in 2013 if true.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jockey on April 02, 2019, 12:26:44 PM
He was already hiding in the Michigan City, IN bunker knowing him, Markus, and Bailey were gowne.

Was that the famous Kimmy Schmidt bunker?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jockey on April 02, 2019, 12:32:16 PM
Quite a bit of smoke about Wojo to Virginia Tech last 24 hours.  Unfortunate if this true.  Starting over again is not my idea of moving forward and making progress when we are already making progress with the current staff.

I was burning leaves yesterday. Smoke everywhere.

What more proof do you deniers want?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on April 02, 2019, 12:34:15 PM
1. Not true. If MU knew he was leaving he wouldn't be filming anything. Nor should he.

2. My main point is he was in Milwaukee. Not anywhere else. Which disproves all of the "flight tracka" stuff.

What shorts and lapel pins was her wearing during the filming?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Uncle Rico on April 02, 2019, 12:39:55 PM
Anyone tracking flights from Peoria to Milwaukee?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 12:52:06 PM
Anyone tracking flights from Peoria to Milwaukee?

No but we are tracking them from Centrallia to Whiting.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WindyCityGoldenEagle on April 02, 2019, 12:54:25 PM
Anyone tracking flights from Peoria to Milwaukee?

I’m all over the Peoria Greyhound bus schedule.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 02, 2019, 12:57:58 PM
He easily could've hopped on the flight back to milwaukee after the flight to gary dropped off his family. I mean come on that's only logical

Can we please get Chief Inspector Clouseau on this already.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 🏀 on April 02, 2019, 12:58:18 PM
Anyone tracking flights from Peoria to Milwaukee?

No but we are tracking them from Centrallia to Whiting.


This is why I Scoop.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 02, 2019, 01:00:21 PM
Well,  Marquette is in Michigan, which is close to Gary

Milwaukee is slightly closer to Gary than Marquette, MI.

Maybe Wojo is looking for the next Glenn Robinson, perhaps Gary's most famous, non-disgraced citizen.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: SERocks on April 02, 2019, 01:12:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3239475175/23e762904c3b1d1fff27dcd344f9ebbf_400x400.jpeg)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Marcus92 on April 02, 2019, 01:22:44 PM
Gary has a lot going for it:

• It's become a much more exclusive community -- with its population falling by half over the past 60 years.
• Closing 22 schools since since 2007 has led to more efficient government.
• Former chief of police Thomas Houston felt so strongly about his job that he was convicted of excessive force and abuse of authority.
• The city's per capita income is nearly $15,000.
• Almost 75% of the population lives above the poverty line.
• In 2018, Gary ranked 3rd nationwide for its murder rate.
• Gary is an increasingly affordable place to live, with home values declining 3.9% over the past year and median rent less than half of the Chicago metro area.

Who wouldn't want to travel there?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 02, 2019, 01:23:21 PM
Shuttleworth.


Drops mic....
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 02, 2019, 02:17:20 PM
Gary has a lot going for it:

• It's become a much more exclusive community -- with its population falling by half over the past 60 years.
• Closing 22 schools since since 2007 has led to more efficient government.
• Former chief of police Thomas Houston felt so strongly about his job that he was convicted of excessive force and abuse of authority.
• The city's per capita income is nearly $15,000.
• Almost 75% of the population lives above the poverty line.
• In 2018, Gary ranked 3rd nationwide for its murder rate.
• Gary is an increasingly affordable place to live, with home values declining 3.9% over the past year and median rent less than half of the Chicago metro area.

Who wouldn't want to travel there?

The music man certainly made it sound like an attractive place to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acmSExn9O9g
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Its DJOver on April 02, 2019, 03:04:45 PM
Full disclosure; this may just be sour grapes on my part, but I really don't think that the VT job is all that great (Seth Greenberg wasn't exactly tearing it up at South Florida when he got the call).  I think they got lucky that it was open right when Buzz wanted out and was willing to go to any "major" conference.  I don't think Wojo would take it, I don't think Willard would take it.  Same with Marshall, Cronin, or Dixon.  I think they'll run through a bunch of big names, get shot down, and then turn to either a mid major, or someone who's been out of the game for a while. What jobs has Mike Young (Wofford) turned down over the years?  They could also do a lot worse than throwing a bunch of money at a Thad Matta, or JTIII and seeing if it sticks. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muwarrior69 on April 02, 2019, 03:10:20 PM
I just can't imagine Wojo wanting to be known as the guy that takes the jobs  Buzz Williams doesn't want anymore.


...but then he'll get the A&M job when Buzz heads to Duke!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 02, 2019, 03:21:45 PM
Jeff Goodman    @GoodmanHoops
4h

Most people close to Buzz Williams anticipate he will wrap things up with Texas A&M prior to this weekend (Thursday is the day I’ve been told). But with Buzz, honestly, you never know.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 02, 2019, 03:55:52 PM
And that's why you don't need multiple threads on the same basic topic 🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on April 02, 2019, 04:00:36 PM
And that’s why you always leave a note!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 02, 2019, 04:01:40 PM
I worked a college fair last night and I was next to UMBC.  The UMBC Admissions rep was a recent VT grad and VT basketball fan.  He said he heard Buzz was gone to TAMU and that UMBC's coach was one of the top targets.

Interestingly, UMBC has the Flutie Effect going on after 2018's Cinderella win.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: RJax55 on April 02, 2019, 04:07:25 PM
Gary has a lot going for it:

• It's become a much more exclusive community -- with its population falling by half over the past 60 years.
• Closing 22 schools since since 2007 has led to more efficient government.
• Former chief of police Thomas Houston felt so strongly about his job that he was convicted of excessive force and abuse of authority.
• The city's per capita income is nearly $15,000.
• Almost 75% of the population lives above the poverty line.
• In 2018, Gary ranked 3rd nationwide for its murder rate.
• Gary is an increasingly affordable place to live, with home values declining 3.9% over the past year and median rent less than half of the Chicago metro area.

Who wouldn't want to travel there?

It used to have the portal to hell too

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3428959/Indiana-home-portal-hell-possessed-children-chanting-satanically-visitors-saw-ugly-black-monster-torn-down.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3428959/Indiana-home-portal-hell-possessed-children-chanting-satanically-visitors-saw-ugly-black-monster-torn-down.html)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 02, 2019, 04:21:50 PM
It used to have the portal to hell too

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3428959/Indiana-home-portal-hell-possessed-children-chanting-satanically-visitors-saw-ugly-black-monster-torn-down.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3428959/Indiana-home-portal-hell-possessed-children-chanting-satanically-visitors-saw-ugly-black-monster-torn-down.html)

And here I thought Sunnydale and Cleveland were the only cities with a Hellmouth.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2019, 04:47:15 PM
I worked a college fair last night and I was next to UMBC.  The UMBC Admissions rep was a recent VT grad and VT basketball fan.  He said he heard Buzz was gone to TAMU and that UMBC's coach was one of the top targets.

Interestingly, UMBC has the Flutie Effect going on after 2018's Cinderella win.

Ryan Odom was a longtime assistant at VaTech under Seth Greenberg.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on April 02, 2019, 08:49:46 PM
While the timing is not ideal we’d have to let it play out before knowing whether this was a set back or a blessing in disguise. There are upgrades to Wojo in terms of ability to coach.

That may be true, but an opinion at best.  There are upgrades to everyone if push were to come to shove.  Whether Marquette could do better and have them stick around is another matter.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on April 02, 2019, 08:57:08 PM
Correct. There’s literally no smoke other than some guy going off the rails tracking flights across the midwest. And the VT fans are playing a game of telephone and somehow coming to the conclusion that Wojo to VT is a #donedeal

This was one among a number of others, could all be sourced from the same story.  Or another fan that knows nothing.

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/Dont-shoot-the-messenger-if-wrong--130785104/


Duke basketball report had a snippet today, too.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 09:21:10 PM
Give me some Casey Alexander, hey?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 02, 2019, 09:38:27 PM
This was one among a number of others, could all be sourced from the same story.  Or another fan that knows nothing.

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/Dont-shoot-the-messenger-if-wrong--130785104/


Duke basketball report had a snippet today, too.

Has any rumor about Wojo come from anyone that has insight?  A reporter, a real VT insider? And is anyone with knowledge of MU saying there is concern inside the AL?

So far all I have seen is people looking at planes landing 125 miles from Milwaukee and message boards making up things.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2019, 09:48:33 PM
Give me some Casey Alexander, hey?

Pfft. Lost by 18 in his only NCAA appearance. What a loser.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Herman Cain on April 02, 2019, 09:57:36 PM
Has any rumor about Wojo come from anyone that has insight?  A reporter, a real VT insider? And is anyone with knowledge if MU saying there is concern inside the AL?

So far all I have seen is people looking at planes landing 125 miles from Milwaukee and message boards making up things.
It is just a lot of wishful thinking from both sides. I am interested in Raquel Welch too.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 🏀 on April 02, 2019, 10:17:37 PM
Blacksburg to Gary - 95 minute private flight
Gary to Milwaukee - Scenic 147 minute drive
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 10:19:57 PM
Pfft. Lost by 18 in his only NCAA appearance. What a loser.

Let's see if Shaka can take him out. MU82 will be watching.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 10:25:56 PM
It is just a lot of wishful thinking from both sides. I am interested in Raquel Welch too.

Who?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 02, 2019, 10:37:55 PM
It is just a lot of wishful thinking from both sides. I am interested in Raquel Welch too.

I'm guessing it's this vintage that first piqued your interest.

(https://bqhfpnuv66xza-cdn-storage.azureedge.net/cache/7/9/5/a/e/6/795ae64ad31161c2b713915e27022b3a0264ee3f.jpg)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 02, 2019, 10:52:54 PM
Let's see if Shaka can take him out. MU82 will be watching.

Nope.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 02, 2019, 11:04:41 PM
Texas A&M expected to introduce Buzz Williams as its new coach on Thursday
Williams has long been rumored to be connected with TAMU, and the marriage appears imminent
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/texas-a-m-expected-to-introduce-buzz-williams-as-its-new-coach-on-thursday/

Virginia Tech's Buzz Williams is set to become the new Texas A&M coach. Williams will be in College Station, Texas, this week and is expected to be introduced as the next coach of the Aggies on Thursday, according to a Tuesday night report from Jon Rothstein. A source confirmed to CBS Sports that Williams is expected to be in College Station on Wednesday with a press conference set for Thursday afternoon.

Texas A&M's players have been notified of the coaching change, the source added.

Multiple sources have told CBS Sports that Texas A&M, with the help of boosters, is prepared to pay Williams more money -- easily north of $3 million annually -- than it's ever paid a basketball coach in its history. This after being on the hook for approximately $5 million for Billy Kennedy and his staff, who were fired in March after eight seasons and two NCAA Tournament appearances.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 02, 2019, 11:17:00 PM
Give me some Casey Alexander, hey?

If push comes to shove, the list should start and end at Thad Matta.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 02, 2019, 11:26:00 PM
He's back ... Is he's saying Wojo just said no?

Gobbling Maniac @gobblingmaniac
38m
The flight that might be carrying Wojo and his family to Blacksburg tomorrow just disappeared from FlightAware.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: forgetful on April 02, 2019, 11:27:50 PM
This has to be the weirdest coaching rumors ever. Their board is saying a new coach has been hired, before their coach even has accepted an offer.

So strange.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 11:33:42 PM
He's back ... Is he's saying Wojo just said no?

Gobbling Maniac @gobblingmaniac
38m
The flight that might be carrying Wojo and his family to Blacksburg tomorrow just disappeared from FlightAware.

Oh crap.  Boening 737 MAX
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2019, 11:34:40 PM
If push comes to shove, the list should start and end at Thad Matta.

I wouldn't complain.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 02, 2019, 11:36:48 PM
FYI - When Wojo was supposed to be on a plane out of Gary yesterday, he was actually doing this ...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3FA7_2XQAEXFcz.jpg)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 02, 2019, 11:41:12 PM
This has to be the weirdest coaching rumors ever. Their board is saying a new coach has been hired, before their coach even has accepted an offer.

So strange.

The stories are saying that Buzz is getting $3m from A&M.  But the VT trolls are saying that Wojo is going to get $3.5m to jump to Blacksburg.

Wouldn't it have been easier to pay Buzz?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 02, 2019, 11:47:11 PM
FYI - When Wojo was supposed to be on a plane out of Gary yesterday, he was actually doing this ...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3FA7_2XQAEXFcz.jpg)

Satellite TV from the plane.  It's all part of the misdirection Heise.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 79Warrior on April 02, 2019, 11:51:41 PM
The stories are saying that Buzz is getting $3m from A&M.  But the VT trolls are saying that Wojo is going to get $3.5m to jump to Blacksburg.

Wouldn't it have been easier to pay Buzz?

What a waste of time. Wojo is not going anywhere.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Herman Cain on April 03, 2019, 12:25:31 AM
I'm guessing it's this vintage that first piqued your interest.

(https://bqhfpnuv66xza-cdn-storage.azureedge.net/cache/7/9/5/a/e/6/795ae64ad31161c2b713915e27022b3a0264ee3f.jpg)
Your guess is correct.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 12:56:31 AM
I'm guessing it's this vintage that first piqued your interest.

(https://bqhfpnuv66xza-cdn-storage.azureedge.net/cache/7/9/5/a/e/6/795ae64ad31161c2b713915e27022b3a0264ee3f.jpg)

(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/02/09/09/ShawshankRedempt_184Pyxurz.jpg?w968h681)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 05:43:05 AM
If push comes to shove, the list should start and end at Thad Matta.

Yup!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 03, 2019, 05:47:19 AM
If push comes to shove, the list should start and end at Thad Matta.

Have you forgotten how many medical issues he had? wasn't even able to stand on the sidelines at one point. Not to mention those last four years were trending down
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 05:53:44 AM
https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/Latest-report-130827422/
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on April 03, 2019, 05:59:43 AM
https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/Latest-report-130827422/

Their fans are either delusional or some of the smartest satirical writers I've ever encountered.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 03, 2019, 06:09:50 AM
Have you forgotten how many medical issues he had? wasn't even able to stand on the sidelines at one point. Not to mention those last four years were trending down

Nope. If he thinks he's healthy, there's no one out there who's even close. Multiple Final Fours, top NCAA seeds, & an elite recruiter. And trending down was still 70 wins in a three year span. He's also only 51. If you can bring in a guy who's a few good years from the Hall of Fame, you do it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 🏀 on April 03, 2019, 06:13:47 AM
So what's a actual logical list of VT coaches? I don't even think Cronin will follow Buzz.

Ryan Odom? Dawkins?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 06:35:59 AM
So what's a actual logical list of VT coaches? I don't even think Cronin will follow Buzz.

Ryan Odom? Dawkins?

Wardle.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on April 03, 2019, 06:51:18 AM
Wardle.

Pitino
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: real chili 83 on April 03, 2019, 06:55:40 AM
Let me correct the rumors.

A plane did go from Va to Gary. A limo transported passengers to Hammond. Wojo in Hammond too.

Will forever be known as the Frog Legs Summit.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 07:02:39 AM
So what's a actual logical list of VT coaches? I don't even think Cronin will follow Buzz.

Ryan Odom? Dawkins?

Kevin Willard, Wojo
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 03, 2019, 07:06:56 AM
Let me correct the rumors.

A plane did go from Va to Gary. A limo transported passengers to Hammond. Wojo in Hammond too.

Will forever be known as the Frog Legs Summit.

I think they went here

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Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TheREALwrk on April 03, 2019, 07:10:10 AM
This has got to be the worst circle jerk I've seen in Scoop's history.

Some no-name blog tweets about a plane leaving Waukesha for Roanoke. Then tracks a flight from Gary to Roanoke and writes a blog post about how it's got to be wojo... Only citing its own Waukesha>Roanoke tweet as an additional source.

Sh!t, I have more integrity than that blog. VT fans, not suprisingly, and some of you are moronic.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 07:11:37 AM
This has got to be the worst circle jerk I've seen in Scoop's history.

Some no-name blog tweets about a plane leaving Waukesha for Roanoke. Then tracks a flight from Gary to Roanoke and writes a blog post about how it's got to be wojo... Only citing its own Waukesha>Roanoke tweet as an additional source.

Sh!t, I have more integrity than that blog. VT fans, not suprisingly, and some of you are moronic.

I'm not saying it's true at all, but did you read the thread I posted...there is an insider at their 247 board saying it's done..and I don't think his is based off any plane stuff.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 03, 2019, 07:13:01 AM
This has got to be the worst circle jerk I've seen in Scoop's history.

Some no-name blog tweets about a plane leaving Waukesha for Roanoke. Then tracks a flight from Gary to Roanoke and writes a blog post about how it's got to be wojo... Only citing its own Waukesha>Roanoke tweet as an additional source.

Sh!t, I have more integrity than that blog. VT fans, not suprisingly, and some of you are moronic.

Don’t forget this blog’s Twitter account also had less than 100 followers.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: SERocks on April 03, 2019, 07:21:51 AM
I'm not saying it's true at all, but did you read the thread I posted...there is an insider at their 247 board saying it's done..and I don't think his is based off any plane stuff.

I would be blown away on several levels if this turns out to be true.   Ultimately what it would say to me though is there is something wrong with the direction of MU basketball that two coaches could not tolerate and left the program.  If that is true MU Bball is in a very dark hole.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 07:29:35 AM
I would be blown away on several levels if this turns out to be true.   Ultimately what it would say to me though is there is something wrong with the direction of MU basketball that two coaches could not tolerate and left the program.  If that is true MU Bball is in a very dark hole.

I would be utterly astounded if this was true.  Completely.  It just doesn't make sense on any level.  Which means, if it happens, you're correct that there is something very, very wrong.  But it's not happening.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: DienerTime34 on April 03, 2019, 08:03:43 AM
I'm astounded that the VT boards don't even have 1 or 2 pesky voices asking "Are we sure Wojo to VT is true?" or "Why are we going to pay a guy $3.5 million that's never won an NCAA game"? Very different atmosphere than our beloved MU Scoop.

That said, they are so convinced Wojo is being hired I'm beginning to think it might be possible.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 03, 2019, 08:13:10 AM
I'm astounded that the VT boards don't even have 1 or 2 pesky voices asking "Are we sure Wojo to VT is true?" or "Why are we going to pay a guy $3.5 million that's never won an NCAA game"? Very different atmosphere than our beloved MU Scoop.

That said, they are so convinced Wojo is being hired I'm beginning to think it might be possible.

If it is he's a lying scumbag who used us to cut his chops without a huge return for us. If it's not leaving he's a loyal coach who truly wants to take us to the next level
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Windyplayer on April 03, 2019, 08:13:54 AM
I'm astounded that the VT boards don't even have 1 or 2 pesky voices asking "Are we sure Wojo to VT is true?" or "Why are we going to pay a guy $3.5 million that's never won an NCAA game"? Very different atmosphere than our beloved MU Scoop.

That said, they are so convinced Wojo is being hired I'm beginning to think it might be possible.
Ha, don’t get sucked into that vortex. Group mentality has firmly taken over their board. Truly astounding that no one is questioning sources. Quite the case study in confirmation bias.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: KampusFoods on April 03, 2019, 08:15:51 AM
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1113426233973407745

MarquetteMBB retweeted The Athletic links to a few stories. One of them VERY briefly mentions Markus as one of the best players in CBB (as voted by his peers). The other has a paragraph or 2 on Wojo being one of a few coaches to make their first final 4 soon.

Feels like they wouldn't endorse this article if he was leaving.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Windyplayer on April 03, 2019, 08:16:07 AM
Rothstein speaks, everyone settle...

“Sources: Seton Hall's Kevin Willard is expected to be a primary target to replace Buzz Williams at Virginia Tech. Hokies' AD Whit Babcock has been prepared for this departure and has had a list of potential candidates for weeks. #shbb“
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 03, 2019, 08:16:13 AM
How many colleges have begun coach searches days before any announcement that their coach is gowne?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 03, 2019, 08:20:20 AM
I keep asking why Wojo would leave for VT that needs to be rebuilt (meaning go get paid to suck again) when he has his guys here now, and if everyone returns, he will have another top 10 team and unfinished business at the end of the year.

Now if Wojo's guys are bailing on MU it would make sense, but I've seen nothing on this front.

Then I remembered that Crean bolted for I4 and left behind a top 10 team.

Question, why did Crean leave when he had a loaded team returning?  Was it about Crean's belief that I4 would be a major upgrade?  (note it was not, Crean was at MU for 9 years and I4 for 9 years and his record was nearly identical.  Crean is what he is, the school doesn't change that.)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 08:21:34 AM
How many colleges have begun coach searches days before any announcement that their coach is gowne?

All of them. I promise you that there is a list of potential targets in a vault somewhere in Zilber in case Wojo gets another calling.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Babybluejeans on April 03, 2019, 08:22:58 AM
I would be blown away on several levels if this turns out to be true.   Ultimately what it would say to me though is there is something wrong with the direction of MU basketball that two coaches could not tolerate and left the program.  If that is true MU Bball is in a very dark hole.

Agreed x 1000. Doesn’t seem as though many folks are considering how improbable it is to leave a supportive program and stacked class for...Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech is a weak program and that’s not in dispute—they simply benefited from having a great coach for 5 years on a layover before he decided to “upgrade.”

Don’t forget that Wojo used to field head coaching calls pretty frequently at Duke, but was waiting for the Duke job to open. After K decided he wanted to keep coaching, Wojo chose a program that he thought paralleled certain things about Duke. Virginia Tech, on the other hand, has none of those things, and was and is a plain downgrade Buzz’s decision to go there was an anamoly that depended on many factors lining up perfectly in VaTech’s favor. It’s not Indiana, it’s not Indiana.

Frankly, it’s embarrassing to even have to write this.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 03, 2019, 08:23:04 AM
Rothstein speaks, everyone settle...

“Sources: Seton Hall's Kevin Willard is expected to be a primary target to replace Buzz Williams at Virginia Tech. Hokies' AD Whit Babcock has been prepared for this departure and has had a list of potential candidates for weeks. #shbb“

 I hope SH can keep Willard.  As much as I hated that BET game, I don't want them to become Depaul 2.0.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 03, 2019, 08:28:09 AM
This has got to be the worst circle jerk I've seen in Scoop's history.

Some no-name blog tweets about a plane leaving Waukesha for Roanoke. Then tracks a flight from Gary to Roanoke and writes a blog post about how it's got to be wojo... Only citing its own Waukesha>Roanoke tweet as an additional source.

Sh!t, I have more integrity than that blog. VT fans, not suprisingly, and some of you are moronic.

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Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 08:28:47 AM
My favorite part about the VTScoop thread is that Mark Miller posted "Why in the world would he leave for the Virginia Tech job?"
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on April 03, 2019, 08:28:50 AM
I hope SH can keep Willard.  As much as I hated that BET game, I don't want them to become Depaul 2.0.

Agreed. SH needs Willard so I can keep hating them.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 03, 2019, 08:30:35 AM
Question, why did Crean leave when he had a loaded team returning?  Was it about Crean's belief that I4 would be a major upgrade?  (note it was not, Crean was at MU for 9 years and I4 for 9 years and his record was nearly identical.  Crean is what he is, the school doesn't change that.)

He had no way of knowing when he left, but yes. After Shumpert, he expected Indiana to make recruiting easier (it did). Crean left for what Indiana could be, he had no way of knowing what it would be.

I don't see any way Wojo leaves for Va Tech. It's just not that good a job. If he does, so be it, but starting over from another Buzz scrapheap in a place that has no basketball tradition outside the past 3 years seems like a poor choice. He could easily get a better offer in a year or two.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 1SE on April 03, 2019, 08:33:58 AM
This is actually kind of funny - they really think Wojo is coming don't they....

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/BREAKING-Buzz-Williams-officially-heading-to-Texas-AM-130833242/
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 08:34:42 AM
Then I remembered that Crean bolted for I4 and left behind a top 10 team.

Question, why did Crean leave when he had a loaded team returning?

I know we've made fun of it for years now, but "It's Indiana" wasn't a ridiculous reason to leave.  History has shown it's not really a very good reason, but...it was Indiana.

In a very short time, somebody is going to make a career decision based upon "It's UCLA."  I think there's a pretty good chance it will be a mistake.  But history is a bewitching siren.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 08:36:48 AM
This is actually kind of funny - they really think Wojo is coming don't they....

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/BREAKING-Buzz-Williams-officially-heading-to-Texas-AM-130833242/

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Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warrior of Law on April 03, 2019, 08:39:59 AM
It was surprising when Buzz left for VT, considering the money, support, etc.  With Buzz, you had some actual coaching success that warranted consideration.  I guess I don't see why Wojo would be an attractive candidate, other than MU having hired him 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Its DJOver on April 03, 2019, 08:40:39 AM
I like how they act like they're too good for Willard.  Four straight tourney appearances, pre-Buzz VT would have taken that in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Herman Cain on April 03, 2019, 08:41:38 AM
I keep asking why Wojo would leave for VT that needs to be rebuilt (meaning go get paid to suck again) when he has his guys here now, and if everyone returns, he will have another top 10 team and unfinished business at the end of the year.

Now if Wojo's guys are bailing on MU it would make sense, but I've seen nothing on this front.

Then I remembered that Crean bolted for I4 and left behind a top 10 team.

Question, why did Crean leave when he had a loaded team returning?  Was it about Crean's belief that I4 would be a major upgrade?  (note it was not, Crean was at MU for 9 years and I4 for 9 years and his record was nearly identical.  Crean is what he is, the school doesn't change that.)
At the time Crean left, there was still some thought process  out there that Indiana was still a blue blood and just need to adjust to a post Knight era. Obviously time has shown that was not the case.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 08:42:14 AM
Rothstein speaks, everyone settle...

“Sources: Seton Hall's Kevin Willard is expected to be a primary target to replace Buzz Williams at Virginia Tech. Hokies' AD Whit Babcock has been prepared for this departure and has had a list of potential candidates for weeks. #shbb“

Especially funny since Seton Hall fans started the Wojo rumor.

However, I would prefer Willard stay in the Big East.  I like him.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Skip Intro on April 03, 2019, 08:44:11 AM
He had no way of knowing when he left, but yes. After Shumpert, he expected Indiana to make recruiting easier (it did). Crean left for what Indiana could be, he had no way of knowing what it would be.

I don't see any way Wojo leaves for Va Tech. It's just not that good a job. If he does, so be it, but starting over from another Buzz scrapheap in a place that has no basketball tradition outside the past 3 years seems like a poor choice. He could easily get a better offer in a year or two.

I don't really see Wojo leaving for VT, either.  As you said, he could get a better offer in a year or two, especially if he has a comparable record next year.  If he goes to VT this year, in what will almost assuredly be a down year (with or without Buzz), those offers probably don't come.  I think he ends up at Maryland within two years, assuming Duke doesn't come calling first.

Also, to those who say VT is "closer to home" for Wojo, Blacksburg is about a 5 hour drive to Baltimore.  He can jump on a direct flight from MKE - BWI and be there in two.  I don't think the location will play into any VT decision from Wojo (and might actually hurt their chances).
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silent Verbal on April 03, 2019, 08:44:39 AM
Many are saying VT would be a poor choice for Wojo, but I think Wojo would be a poor choice for VT.  To be successful, that program needs a coach with the right stuff, a guy who can (or seems like he could) win anywhere.  Willard might be that guy.  Like Buzz and many other good college coaches, he has just the right combination of sleaze and panache to get it done at a second rate P6 program.  Wojo is having a hard enough time keeping his head above water at MU.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 08:50:22 AM
Wojo is having a hard enough time keeping his head above water at MU.

A ranked team for most of the season that returns all major players next season?

His head is above water.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: shoothoops on April 03, 2019, 08:53:02 AM
It was surprising when Buzz left for VT, considering the money, support, etc.  With Buzz, you had some actual coaching success that warranted consideration.  I guess I don't see why Wojo would be an attractive candidate, other than MU having hired him 5 years ago.

I know this has been discussed often but is it really that difficult to believe?

Long time popular school President (Wild) retires, and long time popular AD (Cords) retires. Williams (AD) and Pilarz (Prez) were bad hires. Babcock (Virginia Tech AD) has a strong people person reputation. MU entering the unknown of a new Big East (which has since worked out fine) .....Buzz had great success early and often over 5 seasons. But there was some Final Four chatter coming off of the elite 8 run. Then Vander left unexpectedly. MU misses tourney and would likely have another down year. So the abrupt nature, and choice of school may have raised an eyebrow or two but leaving didn’t.  Buzz knew that getting Virginia Tech to NCAA’s would appease fans there as they made it twice in the previous 26 seasons. Buzz makes it 3 times in 5 seasons and makes Sweet 16. He will lose a lot this season. Buzz is gaining a reputation of early success, sustained annually for 5 or so years and then leaving when he may have a down season or two. There is a good chance he will succeed at A&M early and for a while. Then who knows?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on April 03, 2019, 08:53:13 AM
I went to their front page. Holy crap. 4 threads about Wojo.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Herman Cain on April 03, 2019, 08:54:59 AM
Many are saying VT would be a poor choice for Wojo, but I think Wojo would be a poor choice for VT.  To be successful, that program needs a coach with the right stuff, a guy who can (or seems like he could) win anywhere.  Willard might be that guy.  Like Buzz and many other good college coaches, he has just the right combination of sleaze and panache to get it done at a second rate P6 program.  Wojo is having a hard enough time keeping his head above water at MU.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: warriorchick on April 03, 2019, 08:57:22 AM
I went to their front page. Holy crap. 4 threads about Wojo.

So, considerably less insane than Scoop.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 03, 2019, 08:59:25 AM
The cupboard isn't bare if Wojo leaves, but Symir could decide to go elsewhere.  Not sure if it makes sense for anyone else to leave or follow if Wojo left.

But I don't see it.  If Wojo has any chance at all of being the Duke coach after K, does he leave a Marquette job that K had him wait for the "right" job, only to then leave again in a couple years when K steps down?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 09:05:23 AM
The cupboard isn't bare if Wojo leaves, but Symir could decide to go elsewhere.  Not sure if it makes sense for anyone else to leave or follow if Wojo left.

But I don't see it.  If Wojo has any chance at all of being the Duke coach after K, does he leave a Marquette job that K had him wait for the "right" job, only to then leave again in a couple years when K steps down?

Right.  Why would Wojo leave without accomplishing anything when he has a decent shot at accomplishing something big next season?  No reason to set himself back five years.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: shoothoops on April 03, 2019, 09:09:28 AM
Corey Evans weighs in with Virginia Tech coaching candidates.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/buzz-williams-leave-virginia-tech-what-s-next-for-hokies-

as does Jon Rothstein

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1113427549181423616
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: SERocks on April 03, 2019, 09:10:48 AM
So, considerably less insane than Scoop.

So many times I wish there was a like or recommend button on Scoop.  Chick nails it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 03, 2019, 09:11:14 AM
Many are saying VT would be a poor choice for Wojo, but I think Wojo would be a poor choice for VT.  To be successful, that program needs a coach with the right stuff, a guy who can (or seems like he could) win anywhere.  Willard might be that guy.  Like Buzz and many other good college coaches, he has just the right combination of sleaze and panache to get it done at a second rate P6 program.  Wojo is having a hard enough time keeping his head above water at MU.

First, we have extreme MU tunnel vision here. We see warts where others don't. I mean, there is a pretty sizable minority of folks here who regularly rip our All-American guard, for crissakes.

Outsiders say, "Wojo took over a program that was down. In 2 years, they were 20-game winners with a McDonald's All-American playing for them, within 3 they were back in the NCAAs. He landed a few more top recruits, made some role players into good D1 players and nearly won a conference title. Clearly trending up. His players also have no behavioral issues, and his program seems squeaky clean, too."

Many Scoopers might not agree with some of the positives because they believe Wojo is the worst ever, but people see what they want to see, and there is some decent evidence to back up the positives. Many here were extremely negative about Buzz getting our job, but the MU hierarchy at the time saw what they wanted to see in him.

What cracks me up is that many of the same folks dumping on Wojo are singing the praises of Willard. Look up their records. I'm not sure how anybody could claim, based upon results and facts, that Willard has outperformed Wojo as a D1 head coach.

If Wojo had Willard's record after 5 years -- 82-80 overall, 30-60 BE, zero NCAA appearances, even though he went to SH with 3 years of head-coaching experience at Iona, where he also accomplished nothing -- Scoop would be going nuclear! Even after Willard finally recruited a decent class, he underachieved with it.

As for why Wojo would go to VT and leave behind a winning program he rebuilt, he'd either desperately have to want to get back to the ACC or be convinced that Marquette will dick him around on his contract (or both). I don't see it happening at all, but that's all I can come up with on his possible motivation.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Skip Intro on April 03, 2019, 09:11:25 AM
Buzz is gaining a reputation of early success, sustained annually for 5 or so years and then leaving when he may have a down season or two. There is a good chance he will succeed at A&M early and for a while. Then who knows?

I actually think he stays at A&M for a long time, barring a call from Kansas, UNC, Kentucky, etc.  He's proven that he can be successful in a tough conference, and I have no doubt he'll have similar success in the SEC.  His personality is 100% oil baron, so he'll play well with the fans and the school's monstrous student body.  This is where he was meant to be.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 03, 2019, 09:13:11 AM
The most insane thing I saw was VPI fans already worrying about Wojo leaving in 5 years to coach Duke.

That approaches Scoop insanity, but still doesn’t quite make it...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: mu03eng on April 03, 2019, 09:20:24 AM
I finally caught up with thread, the page and half of Jesus returning to basketball jokes was outstanding....the rest was a great study in Scoop people not being rational thinkers about the state of the program, the coach, or how all of this works.

Before the VT rumors "heated" up, there was stuff going around about UNLV coming for Wojo including burner twitter accounts popping up to tweet "rumors" at me about UNLV offering and UNLV blog people tweeting me about them "hearing things". That turned out to be nothing and it didn't even really reach Scoop. I think this VT stuff is the exact same thing but it sticks because we've got fragile egos around here and so the "fear" of being VPI's stepping stone or "dad abandoned me, of course my girlfriend is going to leave" syndrome. There is nothing to this story, it makes zero sense.

Best case scenario, VT blogs have a Benny B equivalent (or maybe it was Benny himself trying to top his Myron Metcalf stunt) who has gloriously trolled two fanbases because we are a bunch of insecure babies.

Worst case scenario, Wojo's people are spreading stuff out there in an effort to leverage a more valuable/longer/better extension out of MU.

No matter what, this does not end with Wojo at VPI.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU B2002 on April 03, 2019, 09:21:23 AM
If Wojo leaves just give his job to Stan Johnson.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 09:23:36 AM
Corey Evans weighs in with Virginia Tech coaching candidates.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/buzz-williams-leave-virginia-tech-what-s-next-for-hokies-

as does Jon Rothstein

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1113427549181423616

Wow, Corey Evans lists Shaka Smart as a candidate but not Wojo.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: mu03eng on April 03, 2019, 09:25:05 AM
Wow, Corey Evans lists Shaka Smart as a candidate but not Wojo.

Zero reason Wojo would be a candidate for the gig. Shaka is at least previously from Virginia.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 09:27:53 AM
As for why Wojo would go to VT and leave behind a winning program he rebuilt, he'd either desperately have to want to get back to the ACC or be convinced that Marquette will dick him around on his contract (or both). I don't see it happening at all, but that's all I can come up with on his possible motivation.

This is the primary thing I keep coming back to.  In my mind, it makes absolutely no sense for Wojo to leave for the VT job.  If he does, there is something very wrong at Marquette.  And perhaps I'm a complete homer, but I don't think that's the case.

Who am I kidding?  Of course I'm a complete homer.  But I still don't think there's some huge problem at Marquette that is going to drive Wojo away when he's presumably on the brink of a very special season.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 03, 2019, 09:38:23 AM
What's with Buzz? Tell me what's a-happenin'.

Ha, all of a sudden scoop is experiencing some technical difficulties...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: KampusFoods on April 03, 2019, 09:43:27 AM
Lots of "bare cupboard" talk on VT's boards. Buzz's calling card.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 09:43:34 AM
Corey Evans weighs in with Virginia Tech coaching candidates.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/buzz-williams-leave-virginia-tech-what-s-next-for-hokies-

Can't help but wonder what the VT fans think of this list:


While some of those guys might be good choices, there's really nothing in that list suggesting that VT is going to poach a Big East HC who was in the tournament this year.

Of course, that list could be totally and completely wrong.  But I suspect that the VT people are thinking bigger than a lot of the names on that list.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: forgetful on April 03, 2019, 09:47:53 AM
Lots of "bare cupboard" talk on VT's boards. Buzz's calling card.

Also comments on how good a job Wojo did of rebuilding the dumpster fire Buzz left behind.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: geps on April 03, 2019, 09:48:06 AM
Rothstein speaks, everyone settle...

“Sources: Seton Hall's Kevin Willard is expected to be a primary target to replace Buzz Williams at Virginia Tech. Hokies' AD Whit Babcock has been prepared for this departure and has had a list of potential candidates for weeks. #shbb“


Not good for the Big East continuing to lose coaches.  Becoming more and more mid major
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 09:49:04 AM
So for those who do not want to wade into the muck but want to understand the Wojo to VT rumors.

It started with the now famous series of flight tracker tweets. A Virginia Tech fan blog found a flight from Waukesha to Roanoke over the weekend. They concluded that the only reason that such a flight would exist is because Wojo is flying to interview for the Virginia Tech job. Keep in mind that Roanoke is an hour away from Virginia Tech and there is a private airfield in Blacksburg right off campus that any plane that could take off from Waukesha could certainly land at.

The same Virginia Tech fan blog then found a flight on Monday from Gary, Indiana to Blacksburg, VA. This time it was at least to the correct airport and the plane was registered to a VT booster. The fan blog then concluded again that the only reason a VT booster would fly from Gary to Blacksburg was to pickup Wojo for an interview. Or it was to pickup Wojo's family so that they could be with Wojo for the announcment. This of course ignores the fact that Gary is a 2-3 hour drive through Chicago traffic, so why the hell would they pick Gary as the pickup spot when there are dozens of airfields closer? It also ignores the fact that we have confirmation that Wojo was in Milwaukee filming Inside Marquette Basketball when this flight was supposedly taking him to Blacksburg.

Adding fuel to the fire of these rumors is the fact that Wojo deactivated his twitter account. VT fans think it is because he is job searching. Marquette fans think it is because he and his family was getting threats from twitter morons after the Murray State loss.

The rumors are now being continued by one person and one person only, Mr. Chris Arvin (https://twitter.com/chrisarvin_247?lang=en). He has not tweeted about any of his Wojo to VT rumors but he has been very confident on the private boards of VTScoop that it is a #donedeal. He claims to have a direct line to VT's AD and is very confidently proclaiming that Wojo is the next VT coach. Arvin describes himself as a "Basketball writer for VTScoop" on his twitter page and the posters there definitely treat him like an insider but he is not one of the official 247 insiders for Virginia Tech. No one else on VTScoop has claimed any inside information, they are all just following Chris' lead.

So really this comes down to this one poster on VTScoop. Maybe he does have a direct line to the AD and has some insider knowledge, though in my experience ADs usually don't hand that kind of information out to people and tell them they have free reign to post it on the internet. Or maybe this is a poster who has read enough tea leaves to convince himself that Wojo will be the next VT coach and is trying to make a name for himself by being the first person to call Wojo to VT. After all if he ends up being wrong he can always pull the "Mrs. Wojo didn't want to move to Blacksburg" card.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: geps on April 03, 2019, 09:52:21 AM

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Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 03, 2019, 09:54:47 AM

Just sayin', but someone needs to figure out how to quote someone's post and reply with something new......
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: geps on April 03, 2019, 10:00:08 AM
Just sayin', but someone needs to figure out how to quote someone's post and reply with something new......

Yes
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BCHoopster on April 03, 2019, 10:00:23 AM
Why would you leave a job when your best team on paper is next year, the next year he will be in demand if he does what we think the team will do.  Even if Markus
leaves, they might be a team instead of a one man band on offense.  I have seen Koby a few times, in some areas he is better than Markus, for sure passing and playing D, he is build, not like Elliott who is a rail.  I am just hoping a year off, will make him bigger and stronger and not take a step back like Cain did.  If Markus does leave,
I hope he can pick up some type of transfer, hopefully a wing that can play.  Missed on Chartonney, to bad.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 03, 2019, 10:01:57 AM
Why would you leave a job when your best team on paper is next year, the next year he will be in demand if he does what we think the team will do.  Even if Markus
leaves, they might be a team instead of a one man band on offense.  I have seen Koby a few times, in some areas he is better than Markus, for sure passing and playing D, he is build, not like Elliott who is a rail.  I am just hoping a year off, will make him bigger and stronger and not take a step back like Cain did.  If Markus does leave,
I hope he can pick up some type of transfer, hopefully a wing that can play.  Missed on Chartonney, to bad.

To be fair crean left before his best year since 03 (and on paper might've been a more dynamic team)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: pbiflyer on April 03, 2019, 10:03:05 AM
So for those who do not want to wade into the muck but want to understand the Wojo to VT rumors.

It started with the now famous series of flight tracker tweets. A Virginia Tech fan blog found a flight from Waukesha to Roanoke over the weekend. They concluded that the only reason that such a flight would exist is because Wojo is flying to interview for the Virginia Tech job. Keep in mind that Roanoke is an hour away from Virginia Tech and there is a private airfield in Blacksburg right off campus that any plane that could take off from Waukesha could certainly land at.

The same Virginia Tech fan blog then found a flight on Monday from Gary, Indiana to Blacksburg, VA. This time it was at least to the correct airport and the plane was registered to a VT booster. The fan blog then concluded again that the only reason a VT booster would fly from Gary to Blacksburg was to pickup Wojo for an interview. Or it was to pickup Wojo's family so that they could be with Wojo for the announcment. This of course ignores the fact that Gary is a 2-3 hour drive through Chicago traffic, so why the hell would they pick Gary as the pickup spot when there are dozens of airfields closer? It also ignores the fact that we have confirmation that Wojo was in Milwaukee filming Inside Marquette Basketball when this flight was supposedly taking him to Blacksburg.


You missed the part where they found another flight from Milwaukee to Gary! Picking up the fam. That makes it solid.

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 10:06:56 AM
To be fair crean left before his best year since 03 (and on paper might've been a more dynamic team)

Crean also had already been to a Final Four and left for a blue blood. This is in no way the same thing.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 03, 2019, 10:10:49 AM
Crean also had already been to a Final Four and left for a blue blood. This is in no way the same thing.

I agree when you add on those factors. Just pointing out that using the argument of leaving before your best year on paper alone isn't always the best way of looking at it
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 10:14:46 AM
To be fair crean left before his best year since 03 (and on paper might've been a more dynamic team)

But Crean left for a job that post people would have definitely seen as a step up.  I understand that VT is in the ACC, but it's not an obvious step up.  I know that Buzz went there -- but he didn't leave a great team behind and there was plenty of speculation that MU was messing with his happy.  In other words, the things that made Buzz's departure to VT understandable just aren't there in Wojo's case.  Also, Buzz leaving VT for A&M just shows that even though he did a great job there, VT isn't a destination job.

My personal opinion -- which certainly could be wrong -- Wojo's not going to leave Marquette unless it's a real step up or unless there is serious problems behind the scenes.  I don't think VT is a real step up and, notwithstanding the dissatisfaction of some Scoopers, I don't think there are problems at Marquette that would drive Wojo away at this time.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: LAZER on April 03, 2019, 10:18:56 AM
This is the primary thing I keep coming back to.  In my mind, it makes absolutely no sense for Wojo to leave for the VT job.  If he does, there is something very wrong at Marquette.  And perhaps I'm a complete homer, but I don't think that's the case.

Who am I kidding?  Of course I'm a complete homer.  But I still don't think there's some huge problem at Marquette that is going to drive Wojo away when he's presumably on the brink of a very special season.
If you're Wojo, why not see how high VT is willing to go?  Can he get $3.5MM from them?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 03, 2019, 10:42:45 AM

Best case scenario, VT blogs have a Benny B equivalent (or maybe it was Benny himself trying to top his Myron Metcalf stunt) who has gloriously trolled two fanbases because we are a bunch of insecure babies.


If Benny B is the Twitter flight tracker and/or Mr. Chris Arvin, that is next level stuff!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 03, 2019, 10:42:58 AM
So for those who do not want to wade into the muck but want to understand the Wojo to VT rumors.

It started with the now famous series of flight tracker tweets. A Virginia Tech fan blog found a flight from Waukesha to Roanoke over the weekend. They concluded that the only reason that such a flight would exist is because Wojo is flying to interview for the Virginia Tech job. Keep in mind that Roanoke is an hour away from Virginia Tech and there is a private airfield in Blacksburg right off campus that any plane that could take off from Waukesha could certainly land at.

The same Virginia Tech fan blog then found a flight on Monday from Gary, Indiana to Blacksburg, VA. This time it was at least to the correct airport and the plane was registered to a VT booster. The fan blog then concluded again that the only reason a VT booster would fly from Gary to Blacksburg was to pickup Wojo for an interview. Or it was to pickup Wojo's family so that they could be with Wojo for the announcment. This of course ignores the fact that Gary is a 2-3 hour drive through Chicago traffic, so why the hell would they pick Gary as the pickup spot when there are dozens of airfields closer? It also ignores the fact that we have confirmation that Wojo was in Milwaukee filming Inside Marquette Basketball when this flight was supposedly taking him to Blacksburg.

Adding fuel to the fire of these rumors is the fact that Wojo deactivated his twitter account. VT fans think it is because he is job searching. Marquette fans think it is because he and his family was getting threats from twitter morons after the Murray State loss.

The rumors are now being continued by one person and one person only, Mr. Chris Arvin (https://twitter.com/chrisarvin_247?lang=en). He has not tweeted about any of his Wojo to VT rumors but he has been very confident on the private boards of VTScoop that it is a #donedeal. He claims to have a direct line to VT's AD and is very confidently proclaiming that Wojo is the next VT coach. Arvin describes himself as a "Basketball writer for VTScoop" on his twitter page and the posters there definitely treat him like an insider but he is not one of the official 247 insiders for Virginia Tech. No one else on VTScoop has claimed any inside information, they are all just following Chris' lead.

So really this comes down to this one poster on VTScoop. Maybe he does have a direct line to the AD and has some insider knowledge, though in my experience ADs usually don't hand that kind of information out to people and tell them they have free reign to post it on the internet. Or maybe this is a poster who has read enough tea leaves to convince himself that Wojo will be the next VT coach and is trying to make a name for himself by being the first person to call Wojo to VT. After all if he ends up being wrong he can always pull the "Mrs. Wojo didn't want to move to Blacksburg" card.

VPI14?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 03, 2019, 10:44:40 AM
So for those who do not want to wade into the muck but want to understand the Wojo to VT rumors.

It started with the now famous series of flight tracker tweets. A Virginia Tech fan blog found a flight from Waukesha to Roanoke over the weekend. They concluded that the only reason that such a flight would exist is because Wojo is flying to interview for the Virginia Tech job. Keep in mind that Roanoke is an hour away from Virginia Tech and there is a private airfield in Blacksburg right off campus that any plane that could take off from Waukesha could certainly land at.

The same Virginia Tech fan blog then found a flight on Monday from Gary, Indiana to Blacksburg, VA. This time it was at least to the correct airport and the plane was registered to a VT booster. The fan blog then concluded again that the only reason a VT booster would fly from Gary to Blacksburg was to pickup Wojo for an interview. Or it was to pickup Wojo's family so that they could be with Wojo for the announcment. This of course ignores the fact that Gary is a 2-3 hour drive through Chicago traffic, so why the hell would they pick Gary as the pickup spot when there are dozens of airfields closer? It also ignores the fact that we have confirmation that Wojo was in Milwaukee filming Inside Marquette Basketball when this flight was supposedly taking him to Blacksburg.

Adding fuel to the fire of these rumors is the fact that Wojo deactivated his twitter account. VT fans think it is because he is job searching. Marquette fans think it is because he and his family was getting threats from twitter morons after the Murray State loss.

The rumors are now being continued by one person and one person only, Mr. Chris Arvin (https://twitter.com/chrisarvin_247?lang=en). He has not tweeted about any of his Wojo to VT rumors but he has been very confident on the private boards of VTScoop that it is a #donedeal. He claims to have a direct line to VT's AD and is very confidently proclaiming that Wojo is the next VT coach. Arvin describes himself as a "Basketball writer for VTScoop" on his twitter page and the posters there definitely treat him like an insider but he is not one of the official 247 insiders for Virginia Tech. No one else on VTScoop has claimed any inside information, they are all just following Chris' lead.

So really this comes down to this one poster on VTScoop. Maybe he does have a direct line to the AD and has some insider knowledge, though in my experience ADs usually don't hand that kind of information out to people and tell them they have free reign to post it on the internet. Or maybe this is a poster who has read enough tea leaves to convince himself that Wojo will be the next VT coach and is trying to make a name for himself by being the first person to call Wojo to VT. After all if he ends up being wrong he can always pull the "Mrs. Wojo didn't want to move to Blacksburg" card.

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Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Its DJOver on April 03, 2019, 10:57:13 AM
It may be difficult with no twitter for Wojo, but has anyone even heard if VT has even contacted him?  Buzz only went official today, but "sources" (take it for what it's worth) have said that Willard heard from them last week.  If Willard has heard from them, and the closest thing we've got is a flight tracker, I would say Wojo to VT is at a solid 0%.

https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1113455988542267392
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 03, 2019, 11:02:59 AM
April 3, 2019 | 11:49am
Kevin Willard flirts with Virginia Tech in potential Seton Hall exit
https://nypost.com/2019/04/03/kevin-willard-flirts-with-virginia-tech-in-potential-seton-hall-exit/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

A source close to Willard told The Post, “It’s a little serious,” but Willard does have reservations about leaving what could be a top-25 team next year. Willard is loyal to star guard Myles Powell, who has one year of eligibility remaining, and would return virtually his entire team, in addition to Florida State transfer Ike Obiagu and highly regarded four-star recruit Tyrese Samuel.

Per source, Willard has three years left on his contract and makes just under $2 million per year.

Willard never got much of a look from his alma mater, Pittsburgh, last year, as he had hoped. But this appears to be different. He got the most out of the Pirates this season, leading them back to the NCAA Tournament after graduating four core seniors and being picked to finish eighth, and was a runner-up in Big East Coach of the Year voting to Villanova’s Jay Wright.

Vanderbilt also reached out to Willard last week, sources said, but it has been reported Jerry Stackhouse is the leading candidate at the SEC school.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 11:21:24 AM
People..all this questioning why Wojo would leave?? Strange as it may sound, Coaches leave jobs sometimes for personal reasons that none of us are privy too. I mean, maybe Wojo and/or his wife don't like the city of Milwaukee or the cold winter?? Maybe he loves and has always wanted to be in the ACC before he went to Duke as Coach. Maybe Va Tech would throw a ton of coin at him that almost no one could turn down. Maybe he just wants something different. Point being, none of those things could be a reason, some of them could be, or all of them could be. None of us know.

It's not always as black and white as we all think it is. These Coaches are humans too...they have lives and families..Coaches could move to a "lessor" job for any number of reasons that don't make much sense to any of us, but to the Coach and his family, they make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 03, 2019, 11:34:15 AM
He isn't leaving. I will wager whatever amount of money you'd like.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: KampusFoods on April 03, 2019, 11:41:13 AM
He isn't leaving. I will wager whatever amount of money you'd like.

Nobody here thinks that he is. Guru is just saying that it's not as unreasonable as some people are making it out to be. I tend to agree.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silent Verbal on April 03, 2019, 11:50:29 AM
He isn't leaving. I will wager whatever amount of money you'd like.

If Wojo stays, it’s not out of some sense of loyalty to Marquette or what he’s built here.  It’s because he’s not a serious candidate for other high major jobs at this time.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warrior_2002 on April 03, 2019, 11:52:20 AM
I don’t believe Va Tech is a better job but in a better conference and it’s way closer to Wojo’s hometown.  Don’t see why it’s such a stretch.  And I don’t think it shows MU is messed up.  Very coincidental that 2 coaches would leave.  And this Chris Arvin (Va Tech scoop writer doesn’t seem to be backing away that it’s done as I read his forum posts.  Or is he a fraud?  I don’t know.  Does anyone else know?  Seems interesting. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 03, 2019, 11:53:22 AM
If Wojo stays, it’s not out of some sense of loyalty to Marquette or what he’s built here.  It’s because he’s not a serious candidate for other high major jobs at this time.

Could be both.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 03, 2019, 11:56:16 AM
If Wojo stays, it’s not out of some sense of loyalty to Marquette or what he’s built here.  It’s because he’s not a serious candidate for other high major jobs at this time.

My worry is Arizona after he has a successful 6th year here to go clean up their mess with a doubled salary vs. whatever we'd pay and a very long leash
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2019, 11:58:50 AM
I don’t believe Va Tech is a better job but in a better conference and it’s way closer to Wojo’s hometown.  Don’t see why it’s such a stretch.  And I don’t think it shows MU is messed up.  Very coincidental that 2 coaches would leave.  And this Chris Arvin (Va Tech scoop writer doesn’t seem to be backing away that it’s done as I read his forum posts.  Or is he a fraud?  I don’t know.  Does anyone else know?  Seems interesting.

Wojo is a grown man who hasn't lived in his "hometown" since he went away to college (unless you consider Durham his hometown).
That said .... way closer?
Milwaukee to Baltimore flight time: 1 hour, 50 minutes
Blacksburg to Baltimore flight time: 1 hour, 25 minutes

And that's assuming you can get direct flights from Blacksburg to Baltimore.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2019, 11:59:42 AM
If Wojo stays, it’s not out of some sense of loyalty to Marquette or what he’s built here.  It’s because he’s not a serious candidate for other  better high major jobs at this time.

FTFY
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warrior_2002 on April 03, 2019, 12:00:55 PM
Wojo is a grown man who hasn't lived in his "hometown" since he went away to college (unless you consider Durham his hometown).
That said .... way closer?
Milwaukee to Baltimore flight time: 1 hour, 50 minutes
Blacksburg to Baltimore flight time: 1 hour, 25 minutes

And that's assuming you can get direct flights from Blacksburg to Baltimore.

I guess you’re right.  Was just thinking it’s a state away.  But I hear you.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 03, 2019, 12:08:28 PM
Wojo is a grown man who hasn't lived in his "hometown" since he went away to college (unless you consider Durham his hometown).
That said .... way closer?
Milwaukee to Baltimore flight time: 1 hour, 50 minutes
Blacksburg to Baltimore flight time: 1 hour, 25 minutes

And that's assuming you can get direct flights from Blacksburg to Baltimore.

Since I had to visit Roanoke, VA in February I can attest that it is called Roanoke-Blacksburg Regional Airport.  It's still a 50 minute drive to Blacksburg from the airport.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silent Verbal on April 03, 2019, 12:10:11 PM
FTFY

I disagree.  I simply don’t think he’s a candidate for any other high major jobs at this time.  Aside from fan blogs and yahoos on Twitter, where is the evidence that other schools have reached out to him?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 03, 2019, 12:12:10 PM
He isn't leaving. I will wager whatever amount of money you'd like.

If he is, it's not to VT after driving to Gary!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 12:12:46 PM
People..all this questioning why Wojo would leave?? Strange as it may sound, Coaches leave jobs sometimes for personal reasons that none of us are privy too. I mean, maybe Wojo and/or his wife don't like the city of Milwaukee or the cold winter?? Maybe he loves and has always wanted to be in the ACC before he went to Duke as Coach. Maybe Va Tech would throw a ton of coin at him that almost no one could turn down. Maybe he just wants something different. Point being, none of those things could be a reason, some of them could be, or all of them could be. None of us know.

It's not always as black and white as we all think it is. These Coaches are humans too...they have lives and families..Coaches could move to a "lessor" job for any number of reasons that don't make much sense to any of us, but to the Coach and his family, they make a lot of sense.

I absolutely agree with you.  I don't know what motivates Wojo (and/or his wife).  As you said, none of us do.

That said, as we're wildly speculating about a situation none of us really knows a damn thing about, we can choose to assume that most people act according to fairly typical motivations, or we can choose to assume that they act according to atypical motivations.  I fully recognize that whichever choice we make, we really have no idea.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2019, 12:14:45 PM
I disagree.  I simply don’t think he’s a candidate for any other high major jobs at this time.  Aside from fan blogs and yahoos on Twitter, where is the evidence that other schools have reached out to him?

You didn't write "at this time" in your post.
Fact: Wojo won't leave for any high major job. Would you see him leaving Marquette for Oregon State or Penn State or Mississippi?
Also Fact: Wojo very likely will leave Marquette if a high major program he believes is better makes him a good offer.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silent Verbal on April 03, 2019, 12:16:27 PM
You didn't write "at this time" in your post.
Fact: Wojo won't leave for any high major job. Would you see him leaving Marquette for Oregon State or Penn State or Mississippi?
Also Fact: Wojo very likely will leave Marquette if a high major program he believes is better makes him a good offer.

Huh?  The post you quoted and “fixed” says “at this time”.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 03, 2019, 12:25:05 PM
Latest from VT Scoop  ;D

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/LongFormArticle/Coaching-Hot-Board-Virginia-Tech-Hokies-Basketball-130836308/#130836308_1
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 12:26:51 PM
Latest from VT Scoop  ;D

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/LongFormArticle/Coaching-Hot-Board-Virginia-Tech-Hokies-Basketball-130836308/#130836308_1

Who are they?  Behind a paywall for me.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 03, 2019, 12:28:09 PM
I absolutely agree with you.  I don't know what motivates Wojo (and/or his wife).  As you said, none of us do.

That said, as we're wildly speculating about a situation none of us really knows a damn thing about, we can choose to assume that most people act according to fairly typical motivations, or we can choose to assume that they act according to atypical motivations.  I fully recognize that whichever choice we make, we really have no idea.

Wojo took the Marquette job after being offered several opportunities through the years at high major schools. He choose Marquette, in part, because there is a clear understanding between Marquette and Wojo that they would stick with each other through thick and thin and with the understanding that a long term commitment is in everyone's best interest. Keep in mind Wojo's benchmark is Coach K at Duke. He seeks to replicate that consistency at Marquette. MU has his back as the administration believes consistency will breed success. Wojo's seat is not even warm.

Could things change? Of course. But for those of you that bet on things you should look elsewhere.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 03, 2019, 12:30:03 PM
Thought Exercise: Remove your Marquette bias. Would you leave the Marquette job today for the Virginia Tech job today?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 03, 2019, 12:32:51 PM
My worry is Arizona after he has a successful 6th year here to go clean up their mess with a doubled salary vs. whatever we'd pay and a very long leash

Yeah, this makes more sense to me than the VT rumor.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: T-Bone on April 03, 2019, 12:33:07 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif)
Doesn't really matter what's happening.  But it is happening.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 03, 2019, 12:33:20 PM
Who are they?  Behind a paywall for me.

Willard
Wojo
Marshall
Cronin

Arvin guy still seems to maintain Wojo in the lead and that Willard rumor is from coaches but the Wojo rumors are from inside VPI. 

Personally, I don't believe him.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 03, 2019, 12:34:55 PM
https://watchstadium.com/news/search-firm-predicting-virginia-techs-next-head-basketball-coach-04-03-2019/

Goodman's article. Wojo listed as "highly unlikely"
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 03, 2019, 12:39:59 PM
Willard
Wojo
Marshall
Cronin

I know the AAC is garbage but I still think Cincinnati is a better gig than VT.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Windyplayer on April 03, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
My worry is Arizona after he has a successful 6th year here to go clean up their mess with a doubled salary vs. whatever we'd pay and a very long leash
Heard Wojo's wife loves MKE winters so I think we're safe there.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 12:43:19 PM
I disagree.  I simply don’t think he’s a candidate for any other high major jobs at this time.  Aside from fan blogs and yahoos on Twitter, where is the evidence that other schools have reached out to him?

I know you don't want to believe it, but if VT managed to hire Wojo it would be universally praised by everyone other than Scoop's vocal minority as a very good hire for them.

That being said, I don't think we will ever get to find out.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 12:44:27 PM
Thought Exercise: Remove your Marquette bias. Would you leave the Marquette job today for the Virginia Tech job today?

Honestly, it's hard to remove the MU bias, but I don't think so.  Aside from being a better conference, I just don't see any advantage to VT.  And, I think it is worth noting that not all schools in a better conference are created equal.  VT is riding high right now because Buzz did a great job for them.  But they really have no strong history to suggest that they can sustain that. There are a lot of teams in the ACC that I think would be a step down from Marquette.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 03, 2019, 12:46:14 PM
My worry is Arizona after he has a successful 6th year here to go clean up their mess with a doubled salary vs. whatever we'd pay and a very long leash

Stan gets that gig
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 03, 2019, 12:46:20 PM
Thought Exercise: Remove your Marquette bias. Would you leave the Marquette job today for the Virginia Tech job today?
Nope. It shocked the CBB world when Buzz moved from MU to VT for a reason; MU is viewed as a better program nationally. MU has better tradition, fan support, facilities and similar ability to pay. VT is in a better conference but the Big East is still a top five or better conference.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2019, 12:48:58 PM
Stan gets that gig

Arizona is hiring a Marquette assistant with no prior head coaching experience as their top guy?
That would be like Notre Dame hiring Gerry Faust.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 03, 2019, 12:50:04 PM
no teal
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: KampusFoods on April 03, 2019, 12:50:35 PM
Nope. It shocked the CBB world when Buzz moved from MU to VT for a reason; MU is viewed as a better program nationally. MU has better tradition, fan support, facilities and similar ability to pay. VT is in a better conference but the Big East is still a top five or better conference.

It is a different landscape now. Despite his leaving, Buzz has left VT in a much better place than they were 5 years ago. And I would bet most people think less of Marquette NOW than they did when Buzz left.

Still, I believe MU is the better job, but they are much closer than many here choose to believe.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 79Warrior on April 03, 2019, 12:55:15 PM
It is a different landscape now. Despite his leaving, Buzz has left VT in a much better place than they were 5 years ago. And I would bet most people think less of Marquette NOW than they did when Buzz left.

Still, I believe MU is the better job, but they are much closer than many here choose to believe.

For sure. ACC is arguably the best CBB conference. Buzz has made VT very competitive. No reason to think another coach cannot do the same.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 12:57:01 PM
The rumors are now being continued by one person and one person only, Mr. Chris Arvin (https://twitter.com/chrisarvin_247?lang=en). He has not tweeted about any of his Wojo to VT rumors but he has been very confident on the private boards of VTScoop that it is a #donedeal. He claims to have a direct line to VT's AD and is very confidently proclaiming that Wojo is the next VT coach. Arvin describes himself as a "Basketball writer for VTScoop" on his twitter page and the posters there definitely treat him like an insider but he is not one of the official 247 insiders for Virginia Tech. No one else on VTScoop has claimed any inside information, they are all just following Chris' lead.

So really this comes down to this one poster on VTScoop. Maybe he does have a direct line to the AD and has some insider knowledge, though in my experience ADs usually don't hand that kind of information out to people and tell them they have free reign to post it on the internet. Or maybe this is a poster who has read enough tea leaves to convince himself that Wojo will be the next VT coach and is trying to make a name for himself by being the first person to call Wojo to VT. After all if he ends up being wrong he can always pull the "Mrs. Wojo didn't want to move to Blacksburg" card.

An update. Now Earvin is hedging his bets and saying that's hearing it could be Willard but Wojo still on the table. So I guess the "done deal" and "official official" talk he was saying before has changed.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 03, 2019, 12:58:17 PM
An update. Now Earvin is hedging his bets and saying that's hearing it could be Willard but Wojo still on the table. So I guess the "done deal" and "official official" talk he was saying before has changed.

Classic take a shot in the dark move. You're right and people will consider you an insider for years. Wrong and "things changed".
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: jficke13 on April 03, 2019, 01:00:44 PM
Classic take a shot in the dark move. You're right and people will consider you an insider for years. Wrong and "things changed".

Nailed it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 03, 2019, 01:01:23 PM
For sure. ACC is arguably the best CBB conference. Buzz has made VT very competitive. No reason to think another coach cannot do the same.
I don't think MU is vastly superior to VT but sustained success can be difficult, see UNLV, Utah, Georgetown, DePaul, etc.

Also, a lot of concern from VT fans about the state of their team next year regardless of who the coach is.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: mu03eng on April 03, 2019, 01:01:32 PM
We need a "it's not happening" gif

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/9ec54dd7b2907d70fb892ce050ad337c/tenor.gif?itemid=4670417)

Does this work? I didn't like the majority that were Trump based.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: mu03eng on April 03, 2019, 01:02:34 PM
Also, a lot of concern from VT fans about the state of their team next year regardless of who the coach is.

Maybe that's why Wojo takes the VT jobs, he really likes cleaning up messes that Buzz leaves behind and super duper enjoys rebuilding programs.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Its DJOver on April 03, 2019, 01:02:43 PM
An update. Now Earvin is hedging his bets and saying that's hearing it could be Willard but Wojo still on the table. So I guess the "done deal" and "official official" talk he was saying before has changed.

Based on a quick peek at the SH boards, there's some speculation that Willard is pulling a Buzz, and using this to get a pay bump.  He probably deserves it, and TBH it would surprise me if he ends up in Blacksburg, but with these things you never know until its #donedeal.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 01:02:50 PM
For sure. ACC is arguably the best CBB conference. Buzz has made VT very competitive. No reason to think another coach cannot do the same.

I agree, but sports is littered with unsuccessful teams that show marked improvement under a coach and then return to where they were after the coach leaves.  There's no reason that VT can't maintain the level where they are now, but it's also quite possible they'll quietly return to where they were before Buzz got there.  Personally, I hope not.  I like the ACC with some new blood shaking things up, and I'd rather it be VT than Miami, BC or most of the other teams.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: SERocks on April 03, 2019, 01:06:01 PM
Maybe that's why Wojo takes the VT jobs, he really likes cleaning up messes that Buzz leaves behind and super duper enjoys rebuilding programs.

I thought Buzz had someone on staff flush after he made a mess.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2019, 01:06:13 PM
Classic take a shot in the dark move. You're right and people will consider you an insider for years. Wrong and "things changed".

Wojo wanted the job, but his wife wouldn't let him take it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WhiteTrash on April 03, 2019, 01:06:49 PM
Maybe that's why Wojo takes the VT jobs, he really likes cleaning up messes that Buzz leaves behind and super duper enjoys rebuilding programs.
Ha! Well played. I guess we'll find out soon. I'd like Wojo to stay but I am very confident MU will be fine if he goes. They are some very attractive options for MU if he leaves.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 03, 2019, 01:08:46 PM
Wojo wanted the job, but his wife wouldn't let him take it.

Did she earn her MU academic tenure? 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 01:08:52 PM
Based on a quick peek at the SH boards, there's some speculation that Willard is pulling a Buzz, and using this to get a pay bump.  He probably deserves it, and TBH it would surprise me if he ends up in Blacksburg, but with these things you never know until its #donedeal.

As someone recalled up-thread (or in one of the other threads...who can remember), people were pretty surprised when VT hired Buzz away from Marquette.  That was an unusually good hire for little ole' Virginia Tech.  If I had to guess, I'd say they're likely to return back to what people normally would have expected for VT:  a solid mid-major HC or a top assistant from a P6 school.  They get a little bit of a "bump" in quality because it's the ACC.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TheREALwrk on April 03, 2019, 01:09:02 PM
So for those who do not want to wade into the muck but want to understand the Wojo to VT rumors.

It started with the now famous series of flight tracker tweets. A Virginia Tech fan blog found a flight from Waukesha to Roanoke over the weekend. They concluded that the only reason that such a flight would exist is because Wojo is flying to interview for the Virginia Tech job. Keep in mind that Roanoke is an hour away from Virginia Tech and there is a private airfield in Blacksburg right off campus that any plane that could take off from Waukesha could certainly land at.

The same Virginia Tech fan blog then found a flight on Monday from Gary, Indiana to Blacksburg, VA. This time it was at least to the correct airport and the plane was registered to a VT booster. The fan blog then concluded again that the only reason a VT booster would fly from Gary to Blacksburg was to pickup Wojo for an interview. Or it was to pickup Wojo's family so that they could be with Wojo for the announcment. This of course ignores the fact that Gary is a 2-3 hour drive through Chicago traffic, so why the hell would they pick Gary as the pickup spot when there are dozens of airfields closer? It also ignores the fact that we have confirmation that Wojo was in Milwaukee filming Inside Marquette Basketball when this flight was supposedly taking him to Blacksburg.

Adding fuel to the fire of these rumors is the fact that Wojo deactivated his twitter account. VT fans think it is because he is job searching. Marquette fans think it is because he and his family was getting threats from twitter morons after the Murray State loss.

The rumors are now being continued by one person and one person only, Mr. Chris Arvin (https://twitter.com/chrisarvin_247?lang=en). He has not tweeted about any of his Wojo to VT rumors but he has been very confident on the private boards of VTScoop that it is a #donedeal. He claims to have a direct line to VT's AD and is very confidently proclaiming that Wojo is the next VT coach. Arvin describes himself as a "Basketball writer for VTScoop" on his twitter page and the posters there definitely treat him like an insider but he is not one of the official 247 insiders for Virginia Tech. No one else on VTScoop has claimed any inside information, they are all just following Chris' lead.

So really this comes down to this one poster on VTScoop. Maybe he does have a direct line to the AD and has some insider knowledge, though in my experience ADs usually don't hand that kind of information out to people and tell them they have free reign to post it on the internet. Or maybe this is a poster who has read enough tea leaves to convince himself that Wojo will be the next VT coach and is trying to make a name for himself by being the first person to call Wojo to VT. After all if he ends up being wrong he can always pull the "Mrs. Wojo didn't want to move to Blacksburg" card.

Wow. Took you long enough, TAMU...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 01:12:13 PM
Wojo wanted the job, but his wife wouldn't let him take it.

Hey! I already made that joke!  ;D

After all if he ends up being wrong he can always pull the "Mrs. Wojo didn't want to move to Blacksburg" card.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 01:16:21 PM
TAMU

Are you saying there is a less than 10% of Wojo going to VT this season?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 79Warrior on April 03, 2019, 01:19:08 PM
TAMU

Are you saying there is a less than 10% of Wojo going to VT this season?

Wojo is NOT going to VT.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 01:20:16 PM
TAMU

Are you saying there is a less than 10% of Wojo going to VT this season?

I've settled on 0% chance.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Daniel on April 03, 2019, 01:23:08 PM
I’m sure a Wojo is aware of all these rumors.  Why not just come out and say he loves Marquette and is staying.... if he is. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2019, 01:24:56 PM
I’m sure a Wojo is aware of all these rumors.  Why not just come out and say he loves Marquette and is staying.... if he is.

Because those kinds of statements tend to backfire on coaches (see: I'll be here as long as they'll have me"). And because rumors of interest from other programs rarely hurts a coach, especially one who may be fishing for a contract extension.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Anti-Dentite on April 03, 2019, 01:26:33 PM
I’m sure a Wojo is aware of all these rumors.  Why not just come out and say he loves Marquette and is staying.... if he is.
Because he disabled his twitter account and there are no other ways to release a statement.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 03, 2019, 01:27:10 PM
No one who is connected in any meaningful way is reporting it anyhow.  If a coach dispelled every message board rumor he'd be making statements constantly.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 03, 2019, 01:27:32 PM
Because those kinds of statements tend to backfire on coaches (see: I'll be here as long as they'll have me"). And because rumors of interest from other programs rarely hurts a coach, especially one who may be fishing for a contract extension.

Elementary.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 01:52:33 PM
No one who is connected in any meaningful way is reporting it anyhow.  If a coach dispelled every message board rumor he'd be making statements constantly.

Not being condescending at all, but how do you know with 100% certainty the VT insiders that have been reporting it aren't connected in some meaningful way?? None of us know that for sure, do we??
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 03, 2019, 01:53:40 PM
Not being condescending at all, but how do you know with 100% certainty the VT insiders that have been reporting it aren't connected in some meaningful way?? None of us know that for sure, do we??

Because it's one insider and he's already backtracking on his statement.

I will concede that I don't know for sure. But there are FAR more reasons to be skeptical than to believe he has information of any kind.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Johnny B on April 03, 2019, 01:57:46 PM
Willard leaving is not good. The off chance wojo leaving when he hasn't had that much success is not good. The coach turnover for the big east is not looking good. You can not expect to maintain a strong conference when many teams finally have a solid year and they jump ship for a power 4. We need some of.the coaches to stay put long term if we want this conference to be where we hope it to be.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: oldwarrior81 on April 03, 2019, 02:02:07 PM
...so DePaul keeping Leitao is actually a sign of power for the conference?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 03, 2019, 02:04:36 PM
...so DePaul keeping Leitao is actually a sign of power for the conference?

Wait to see what happens with the CBI finals... if he hangs a banner Vandy might back up the Brinks truck
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 02:06:13 PM
All of this discussion/posts on Wojo leaving truly has me laughing out loud. There is not a program on par or better than MU that has any interest in hiring Wojo at this point of his career. I do not believe if Wojo's agents worked behind the scenes that he could make a lateral move right now. The folks talking Wojo to UNLV or Va Tech are not credible basketball sources.

I have spent virtually zero time on the Wojo watch and if I missed a college ball insider talking Wojo leaving, that is my bad. I'm a guy that would not be heartbroken if he left and have not even kept on the news regarding the potential departure.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 03, 2019, 02:07:22 PM
Heard Wojo's wife loves MKE winters so I think we're safe there.

Damn good intel! Really hope that's true
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 03, 2019, 02:09:05 PM
Willard leaving is not good. The off chance wojo leaving when he hasn't had that much success is not good. The coach turnover for the big east is not looking good. You can not expect to maintain a strong conference when many teams finally have a solid year and they jump ship for a power 4. We need some of.the coaches to stay put long term if we want this conference to be where we hope it to be.

Seton Hall went to a national championship with P.J. Carlisimo.  They went to the Sweet 16 with Tommy Amaker.  They now have gone to four straight tournaments under Willard.  There will be another coach, after Willard - whether this year or in the future - that will continue leading the Hall to success.  Frankly, a majority of Big East programs are built on a collection of coaches (not unlike us).  I'd be more worried about what happens to a program like Syracuse (once Boeheim retires), Duke (when Krzyzewski retires), Louisville (now that Pitino is gone) and to UConn (now that Calhoun is gone).  When you consistently reach the upper echelon of college basketball under a single coach, and then hand the keys over, it is far more likely that they return to earth (ala Indiana or UCLA) and have an unattainable goal of winning multiple national championships.

Hall is in great position for next year's team.  If they get an experienced and successful coach, I would be worried about them.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 03, 2019, 02:11:24 PM
I know you don't want to believe it, but if VT managed to hire Wojo it would be universally praised by everyone other than Scoop's vocal minority as a very good hire for them.

Yep.

All of this discussion/posts on Wojo leaving truly has me laughing out loud. There is not a program on par or better than MU that has any interest in hiring Wojo at this point of his career.

Hmmm.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 03, 2019, 02:13:29 PM
All of this discussion/posts on Wojo leaving truly has me laughing out loud. There is not a program on par or better than MU that has any interest in hiring Wojo at this point of his career. I do not believe if Wojo's agents worked behind the scenes that he could make a lateral move right now. The folks talking Wojo to UNLV or Va Tech are not credible basketball sources.

I have spent virtually zero time on the Wojo watch and if I missed a college ball insider talking Wojo leaving, that is my bad. I'm a guy that would not be heartbroken if he left and have not even kept on the news regarding the potential departure.

Virginia Tech is definitely interested. Goodman even reported so. It's just not going to happen. I don't know that you would consider them "on par or better" than MU, though.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 02:14:40 PM
MUeagle

Did not see Goodman reporting that. Saw a couple of other reports and no mention of Wojo anywhere.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: nyg on April 03, 2019, 02:19:26 PM
Goodman said nothing of the sort, just threw out a name.  Here is what he said in writing.

https://watchstadium.com/news/search-firm-predicting-virginia-techs-next-head-basketball-coach-04-03-2019/
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 03, 2019, 02:19:53 PM
Goodman said:

Steve Wojciechowski, Marquette – Would Virginia Tech pluck another coach from Marquette? Here’s the difference: Williams had worn out his welcome at Marquette; Wojo hasn’t. Marquette has the resources to match anything Virginia Tech throws his way, so I don’t see him leaving Marquette at the end of the day.

I don't know how seriously we can take this from Goodman, though. He made a major error of omission by not saying Wojo is the worst coach ever.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 03, 2019, 02:21:59 PM
Not being condescending at all, but how do you know with 100% certainty the VT insiders that have been reporting it aren't connected in some meaningful way?? None of us know that for sure, do we??


I should have clarified.  I mean national reporting types.  Not just supposed insiders on message boards.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 02:23:53 PM
That is a bit of a reach on the Goodman post. But, if that makes some believe other programs are chasing Wojo, enjoy.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Its DJOver on April 03, 2019, 02:25:19 PM
Willard leaving is not good. The off chance wojo leaving when he hasn't had that much success is not good. The coach turnover for the big east is not looking good. You can not expect to maintain a strong conference when many teams finally have a solid year and they jump ship for a power 4. We need some of.the coaches to stay put long term if we want this conference to be where we hope it to be.

3 of the last 5 coaching changes in the conference resulted from someone getting fired rather than leaving for (potentially) greener pastures.  Turnover does not necessarily mean downgrade.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 02:31:44 PM

I should have clarified.  I mean national reporting types.  Not just supposed insiders on message boards.

Fair enough, but I have been around long enough to know there are message board posters that post on MU boards that have had MU related info before National types have. Just saying, just because they are "message board insiders" doesn't mean their info is necessarily bunk.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on April 03, 2019, 02:35:11 PM
(Not so) Bold Prediction; VT doesn’t get their first, second, third or fourth option. They’re not getting Wojo. Not getting Willard. Not getting Cronin. Not getting Marshall. I predict VT settles for a non-name, name and remembers what their program is; a second tier ACC program
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 03, 2019, 02:39:24 PM
(Not so) Bold Prediction; VT doesn’t get their first, second, third or fourth option. They’re not getting Wojo. Not getting Willard. Not getting Cronin. Not getting Marshall. I predict VT settles for a non-name, name and remembers what their program is; a second third tier ACC program

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: drewm88 on April 03, 2019, 02:40:09 PM
(Not so) Bold Prediction; VT doesn’t get their first, second, third or fourth option. They’re not getting Wojo. Not getting Willard. Not getting Cronin. Not getting Marshall. I predict VT settles for a non-name, name and remembers what their program is; a second tier ACC program

I'm of a similar mind. Unless Cronin wants to jump to a better conference, or they overwhelm someone with $, I think the Wofford/UNCG tier is where their next guy will come from.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 03, 2019, 02:43:03 PM
I'm of a similar mind. Unless Cronin wants to jump to a better conference, or they overwhelm someone with $, I think the Wofford/UNCG tier is where their next guy will come from.

Ditto.  Buzz was a great hire for them, but I think history will prove that to be an outlier.  That's not to say they won't get a good coach and continue doing well, but I'd be surprised if they attract a HC from a team that is in the top half of any major conference.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NickelDimer on April 03, 2019, 02:43:43 PM

Yeah that’s probably more accurate
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MUfan12 on April 03, 2019, 02:52:24 PM
But, if that makes some believe other programs are chasing Wojo, enjoy.

Think it's the other way around.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 03, 2019, 03:16:35 PM
MUeagle

Did not see Goodman reporting that. Saw a couple of other reports and no mention of Wojo anywhere.

I may have overstated. Goodman threw his name out as someone VT may target. Not confirmed interest.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 03:17:19 PM
MUeagle

No program is currently courting Wojo.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: KampusFoods on April 03, 2019, 03:20:01 PM
MUeagle

No program is currently courting Wojo.

Of course, you don't actually know this.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 03:22:46 PM
Kampus

There are very few secrets in college ball. Again, if you believe otherwise, go for it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 03, 2019, 03:23:32 PM
I wonder who here is MIL74 at VTScoop. this is priceless:


Mil74 said... (original post)
Actually Hillbilly, I live in Wisconsin however, we don't have any money either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hillbilly, lol! Most of us have seen Making a Murderer.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 03:54:27 PM
I wonder who here is MIL74 at VTScoop. this is priceless:


Mil74 said... (original post)
Actually Hillbilly, I live in Wisconsin however, we don't have any money either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hillbilly, lol! Most of us have seen Making a Murderer.

Back to the transitive property, which in this case does hold...
$WI>$VA>>>>   IL<<<<<<<<<< unfunded pension obligations
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
MUeagle

No program is currently courting Wojo.

Sorry, Goose

I’m with the campus grocer on this one. That I don’t have proof kind of makes my point.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silent Verbal on April 03, 2019, 03:57:02 PM
MUeagle

No program is currently courting Wojo.

Yep.  Wojo’s supporters on this board are trying to make you believe otherwise, because when Marquette coaches are successful, they’re pursued by high major schools with job openings.  This has not happened for Wojo.

Shows that “23-4” and “Wright voted for Wojo as BE COY” and “top ten for a few weeks” and “objectively trending upward” and “potentially great 2020 recruiting class” don’t mean a hill of beans to anyone not on this message board.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 03, 2019, 04:07:32 PM
Yep.  Wojo’s supporters on this board are trying to make you believe otherwise, because when Marquette coaches are successful, they’re pursued by high major schools with job openings.  This has not happened for Wojo.


Again, you don't know that.  He could have been called and he told them "no."  I know you Wojo detractors think he sucks and no one could possibly want him, but if a school like VT got him, it would be considered a coup.  Get some perspective.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 04:12:36 PM

Again, you don't know that.  He could have been called and he told them "no."  I know you Wojo detractors think he sucks and no one could possibly want him, but if a school like VT got him, it would be considered a coup.  Get some perspective.

Right, for a school and program like Va Tech Wojo would be a coup...no doubt about that. For a program like Marquette?? Not so much.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 03, 2019, 04:14:59 PM
Right, for a school and program like Va Tech Wojo would be a coup...no doubt about that. For a program like Marquette?? Not so much.

Well he's here right now. They don't have to get him from anywhere.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 04:25:58 PM
Yep.  Wojo’s supporters on this board are trying to make you believe otherwise, because when Marquette coaches are successful, they’re pursued by high major schools with job openings.  This has not happened for Wojo.

Shows that “23-4” and “Wright voted for Wojo as BE COY” and “top ten for a few weeks” and “objectively trending upward” and “potentially great 2020 recruiting class” don’t mean a hill of beans to anyone not on this message board.

Fake News.

If you amended your last sentence to “don’t mean a hill of beans to anyone responsible for hiring a new head coach” even then it would be doubtful. As it stands it is patently false.

I have a friend who actually has an NCAA ring. His school recently hired an up and coming coach. You had better tell him that his alma mater’s boosters had never put Wojo’s name on a wish list.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 04:33:47 PM
Again, if VT managed to hire Wojo, it would be universally praised (other than the vocal minority on scoop) as a great hire for them.

That being said, I doubt we get to test the theory this season.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 04:39:19 PM
Again, if VT managed to hire Wojo, it would be universally praised (other than the vocal minority on scoop) as a great hire for them.

That being said, I doubt we get to test the theory this season.

The key part of your sentence is bolded...a great hire for THEM. For what MU's standards SHOULD be...he is so so.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silent Verbal on April 03, 2019, 04:40:58 PM
Again, if VT managed to hire Wojo, it would be universally praised (other than the vocal minority on scoop) as a great hire for them.

Maybe, maybe not.  Considering he’s had zero postseason success in five years as a head coach, I don’t think anyone would be calling it a home run hire.  But we’re each entitled to our opinion of what people would say.

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 04:41:26 PM
Again, if VT managed to hire Wojo, it would be universally praised (other than the vocal minority on scoop) as a great hire for them.

That being said, I doubt we get to test the theory this season.

Amen to you and auburnMarquette who actually have perspective, facts, metrics, etc...
...all of which you carefully mine and then refine into a finished product that is published on your own
respected blog sites...unlike the foot-stomping, reactionary gobbledygook the vocal minority spews here.

I cannot agree with auburnMarquette more when he admonishes that minority to “be careful what you wish for.”
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Oregon Warrior on April 03, 2019, 04:49:40 PM
I’m not advocating for him to stay or go but If he’s a great coach, why hasn’t the administration offered him an extension?

The lack of an extension seems to indicate the administration isn’t completely sold.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Johnny B on April 03, 2019, 04:51:16 PM
The key part of your sentence is bolded...a great hire for THEM. For what MU's standards SHOULD be...he is so so.
is this kinda stuff going to be your general sentiment all summer :)?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 04:59:02 PM
I’m not advocating for him to stay or go but If he’s a great coach, why hasn’t the administration offered him an extension?

The lack of an extension seems to indicate the administration isn’t completely sold.

Or it just means they are afraid of vocal minorities with money.

Hope that’s not the case, lest I refer you to the wisdom posted here earlier by auburnMarquette.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 05:01:08 PM
is this kinda stuff going to be your general sentiment all summer :)?

Look, believe it or not...I hope he absolutely kills it next year...that's the truth. With what he has coming back...there should be no more excuses. However, I am skeptical...because of how they finished this year, his lack of creativity offensively or defensively, and the fact that his legitimate top 10 team needed to win 1 game of 4 to win the BE title and couldn't do it. That's concerning...very concerning. What's even more concerning is the fact that he either didn't know how to fix their slide, or didn't know what caused it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 03, 2019, 05:02:55 PM
I’m not advocating for him to stay or go but If he’s a great coach, why hasn’t the administration offered him an extension?

The lack of an extension seems to indicate the administration isn’t completely sold.

I suspect you'd have no idea whether the administration has offered him an extension.
That said, if MU announces an extension, will that make him a great coach?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: jesmu84 on April 03, 2019, 05:24:23 PM
Look, believe it or not...I hope he absolutely kills it next year...that's the truth. With what he has coming back...there should be no more excuses. However, I am skeptical...because of how they finished this year, his lack of creativity offensively or defensively, and the fact that his legitimate top 10 team needed to win 1 game of 4 to win the BE title and couldn't do it. That's concerning...very concerning. What's even more concerning is the fact that he either didn't know how to fix their slide, or didn't know what caused it.

Ya. But you want to promote an assistant if he goes. Which is pretty mid-major/low standards/medocrity mindset.

So I'm not sure about your perspective
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: CountryRoads on April 03, 2019, 05:34:03 PM
It seems $3.5 million is kind of the number now for coaches just below the elite ones (buzz, hoiberg just signed for that). Could MU feasibly get to that number if need be?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 05:37:36 PM
Look, believe it or not...I hope he absolutely kills it next year...that's the truth. With what he has coming back...there should be no more excuses. However, I am skeptical...because of how they finished this year, his lack of creativity offensively or defensively, and the fact that his legitimate top 10 team needed to win 1 game of 4 to win the BE title and couldn't do it. That's concerning...very concerning. What's even more concerning is the fact that he either didn't know how to fix their slide, or didn't know what caused it.

I don’t know what you think caused it. I will tell you I think a perfect storm caused it. I think Markus was injured and/or finally feeling the effect of his advanced minutes. I think Sam, while fully healed from offseason hip surgery, was maybe dealing with some fatigue. I think mentally, they wanted that regular season crown maybe too badly, and their bodies simply could not give them the output needed to produce that result. Bad timing? You bet. I don’t doubt that Markus prefers winning over personal results...but when you single-handedly put the team on your back and hang 50s on opponents...it’s maybe hard for him to not abuse his green light. Wojo saw it all slipping away and maybe overcoached a bit, who knows. Was this not his first experience as a head of steadily climbing very near a tangible summit just as supplies were thinning? I’d bet he learned a ton from that last couple weeks. I’d also bet he applies what he learned to next year.

If you paid attention throughout, you had to see a well-oiled machine in the non-conference ranked games, followed by much of the initial 2/3 of the BEast, especially the games at Georgetown, at Providence, at DePaul. Did this machine sputter a bit? No doubt. Wojo felt that you don’t apply a fix which saps your guys of the confidence they earned all year. Maybe he should’ve applied a little more IZZO and a little less salve to our wounds. It’s a difficult calculus. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: esotericmindguy on April 03, 2019, 05:41:05 PM
It seems $3.5 million is kind of the number now for coaches just below the elite ones (buzz, hoiberg just signed for that). Could MU feasibly get to that number if need be?

Had buzz never left I believe he’d be at 3.5M all in. TV, Radio, salary, etc. I think he was 2.8 when he left
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on April 03, 2019, 05:55:57 PM
I hope VT gets Willard.  He'd be a perfect follow up to Buzz.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 🏀 on April 03, 2019, 06:24:36 PM
Had buzz never left I believe he’d be at 3.5M all in. TV, Radio, salary, etc. I think he was 2.8 when he left

He'd likely be above it by now with consistent success.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 06:25:12 PM
I don’t know what you think caused it. I will tell you I think a perfect storm caused it. I think Markus was injured and/or finally feeling the effect of his advanced minutes. I think Sam, while fully healed from offseason hip surgery, was maybe dealing with some fatigue. I think mentally, they wanted that regular season crown maybe too badly, and their bodies simply could not give them the output needed to produce that result. Bad timing? You bet. I don’t doubt that Markus prefers winning over personal results...but when you single-handedly put the team on your back and hang 50s on opponents...it’s maybe hard for him to not abuse his green light. Wojo saw it all slipping away and maybe overcoached a bit, who knows. Was this not his first experience as a head of steadily climbing very near a tangible summit just as supplies were thinning? I’d bet he learned a ton from that last couple weeks. I’d also bet he applies what he learned to next year.

If you paid attention throughout, you had to see a well-oiled machine in the non-conference ranked games, followed by much of the initial 2/3 of the BEast, especially the games at Georgetown, at Providence, at DePaul. Did this machine sputter a bit? No doubt. Wojo felt that you don’t apply a fix which saps your guys of the confidence they earned all year. Maybe he should’ve applied a little more IZZO and a little less salve to our wounds. It’s a difficult calculus.

I guess I have a hard time buying the fatigue argument to be honest. Plenty of teams run 7-8 man rotations and we didn't see them get fatigued. Hell Virginia played 6 guys...6 over 1 minute in their Elite 8 game vs. Purdue. I'm just saying and I guess I would then wonder why MU would be any different then the other teams that do it??
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 03, 2019, 06:26:46 PM
I don’t know what you think caused it. I will tell you I think a perfect storm caused it. I think Markus was injured and/or finally feeling the effect of his advanced minutes. I think Sam, while fully healed from offseason hip surgery, was maybe dealing with some fatigue. I think mentally, they wanted that regular season crown maybe too badly, and their bodies simply could not give them the output needed to produce that result. Bad timing? You bet. I don’t doubt that Markus prefers winning over personal results...but when you single-handedly put the team on your back and hang 50s on opponents...it’s maybe hard for him to not abuse his green light. Wojo saw it all slipping away and maybe overcoached a bit, who knows. Was this not his first experience as a head of steadily climbing very near a tangible summit just as supplies were thinning? I’d bet he learned a ton from that last couple weeks. I’d also bet he applies what he learned to next year.

If you paid attention throughout, you had to see a well-oiled machine in the non-conference ranked games, followed by much of the initial 2/3 of the BEast, especially the games at Georgetown, at Providence, at DePaul. Did this machine sputter a bit? No doubt. Wojo felt that you don’t apply a fix which saps your guys of the confidence they earned all year. Maybe he should’ve applied a little more IZZO and a little less salve to our wounds. It’s a difficult calculus.

Colt

Thoughtful analysis, generally plausible opinions. One nit I would pick is the "well oiled machine" meme. I think we were good, maybe even very good, but never top 10 good. Maybe on the edge of top 25 good (where Pomeroy had us). We were also very lucky. Down the stretch we had a few clunkers but also I think the "luck" element even out. We went from top 10 luckiest to the middle of the pack (#155) over the last 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on April 03, 2019, 06:38:39 PM
All of this discussion/posts on Wojo leaving truly has me laughing out loud. There is not a program on par or better than MU that has any interest in hiring Wojo at this point of his career. I do not believe if Wojo's agents worked behind the scenes that he could make a lateral move right now. The folks talking Wojo to UNLV or Va Tech are not credible basketball sources.

I have spent virtually zero time on the Wojo watch and if I missed a college ball insider talking Wojo leaving, that is my bad. I'm a guy that would not be heartbroken if he left and have not even kept on the news regarding the potential departure.

You started with claiming that you searched for Wojo moving rumors on the internet and that if there was any talk about it it's in the dark interweb that you didn't have access to.  You moved on to shooting down UNLV rumors as being fake news.  Then yesterday you were saying maybe Wojo really is moving on.  Now you're laughing out loud at the rumors.  And in the very same post that you claim you're laughing out loud at the rumors and claim there is no way Wojo could even make a lateral move if he wanted to, you say you haven't even kept up on the news regarding the potential departure.

You're all over the place.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 06:45:43 PM
wades

I probably spent 20 minutes over two days looking for VaTech news and found the one guys post. My post on maybe Wojo is gone I hope you knew was in jest. The UNLV rumor was a stretch, IMO and any VaTech talk is a bigger stretch.
To sum it up, I do not think Wojo has been on any short lists this season, nor will he be. From what I have heard, read or believe, Wojo is not a real candidate at any job in the country, aside from MU.
Again, if you believe otherwise, I hope it goes the way you want to go. In addition, my post yesterday was 1000000% a joke.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: wadesworld on April 03, 2019, 06:52:35 PM
wades

I probably spent 20 minutes over two days looking for VaTech news and found the one guys post. My post on maybe Wojo is gone I hope you knew was in jest. The UNLV rumor was a stretch, IMO and any VaTech talk is a bigger stretch.
To sum it up, I do not think Wojo has been on any short lists this season, nor will he be. From what I have heard, read or believe, Wojo is not a real candidate at any job in the country, aside from MU.
Again, if you believe otherwise, I hope it goes the way you want to go. In addition, my post yesterday was 1000000% a joke.

I guess I'm just confused.  Maybe it's my inability to comprehend the written word.  You literally wrote, "I have spent virtually zero time on the Wojo watch and if I missed a college ball insider talking Wojo leaving, that is my bad. I'm a guy that would not be heartbroken if he left and have not even kept on the news regarding the potential departure."  Yet you are so sure he's not on any lists or a candidate for any jobs outside of Marquette...all based on...spending no time looking into whether he's actually on any lists.

At least you admit you just spew stuff without actually looking into it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 07:11:55 PM
wades

I am sure he is not any lists because he has done nothing to be on a list. On previous coaching rumors I was far more interested because I believed there was a real story. Yes, I have casually looked to see if anything new popped up, but more in passing.

One last thing, I have spoken to people that told me there is nothing going at MU in regards to a possible coaching change.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: willie warrior on April 03, 2019, 07:17:54 PM
I don’t know what you think caused it. I will tell you I think a perfect storm caused it. I think Markus was injured and/or finally feeling the effect of his advanced minutes. I think Sam, while fully healed from offseason hip surgery, was maybe dealing with some fatigue. I think mentally, they wanted that regular season crown maybe too badly, and their bodies simply could not give them the output needed to produce that result. Bad timing? You bet. I don’t doubt that Markus prefers winning over personal results...but when you single-handedly put the team on your back and hang 50s on opponents...it’s maybe hard for him to not abuse his green light. Wojo saw it all slipping away and maybe overcoached a bit, who knows. Was this not his first experience as a head of steadily climbing very near a tangible summit just as supplies were thinning? I’d bet he learned a ton from that last couple weeks. I’d also bet he applies what he learned to next year.

If you paid attention throughout, you had to see a well-oiled machine in the non-conference ranked games, followed by much of the initial 2/3 of the BEast, especially the games at Georgetown, at Providence, at DePaul. Did this machine sputter a bit? No doubt. Wojo felt that you don’t apply a fix which saps your guys of the confidence they earned all year. Maybe he should’ve applied a little more IZZO and a little less salve to our wounds. It’s a difficult calculus.
Very good. The perfect storm excuse. Better than some of the others
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 03, 2019, 07:30:12 PM
wades

I am sure he is not any lists because he has done nothing to be on a list. On previous coaching rumors I was far more interested because I believed there was a real story. Yes, I have casually looked to see if anything new popped up, but more in passing.

I do not believe anything other than he'll be at MU next year, and I think the UNLV and Va Tech talk is garbage started by some anonymous message board posters or "reporters" throwing names out there, hoping they hit on one.  That said, while Wojo hasn't done enough to be on a list people are enamored with the Duke pedigree and will seek him out just for that.  Johnny Dawkins made one tourney appearance in seven years at Stanford, was fired, and was immediately hired.  Jeff Capel flamed out at Oklahoma, went back to Duke and is now head coach at VCU. Wojo moves up a few notches when it comes to coaching searches because he's a Dukie.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 07:34:11 PM
Billy

If Wojo was canned or on open market, he probably would get some looks. That is how the crazy biz works. I am strictly talking about the current situation. I cannot see how any on par or better program could sell their fan base on the hiring of Wojo. Programs want to make a splash, not trying to sell a hire to alums.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: mu03eng on April 03, 2019, 07:36:48 PM
I suspect you'd have no idea whether the administration has offered him an extension.
That said, if MU announces an extension, will that make him a great coach?

I'm fully confident the administration is/has extended him. I'm also fully confident that they aren't dumb enough to announce it now given the optics of how the season ended and/or all these silly rumors. The former would anger the fanbase the later would make it look like MU gives into "extorsion".

Wojo ain't going anywhere
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: tower912 on April 03, 2019, 07:39:38 PM
wades

I am sure he is not any lists because he has done nothing to be on a list. On previous coaching rumors I was far more interested because I believed there was a real story. Yes, I have casually looked to see if anything new popped up, but more in passing.

One last thing, I have spoken to people that told me there is nothing going at MU in regards to a possible coaching change.
Crean got hired again.  If Steve got fired, he would not be unemployed long.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 07:40:48 PM
Billy

If Wojo was canned or on open market, he probably would get some looks. That is how the crazy biz works. I am strictly talking about the current situation. I cannot see how any on par or better program could sell their fan base on the hiring of Wojo. Programs want to make a splash, not trying to sell a hire to alums.

Goose,

            That's the problem, for a lessor program like Va Tech, Wojo would be a "home run hire". That's the truth and their fans admit that. An even bigger problem is that MU as a program should be way way way above a Va Tech program...and yet Wojo is their Head Coach. The message that sends, to me, isn't a good one. MU was a MUCH better program, and a much more desirable place to be for Coaches when they were in the Old Big East...now, it seems to be a stepping stone league for Coaches..That's telling really, and it's telling a very sad story for a once proud program like MU.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 07:41:14 PM
Tower

First, sad to say, Wojo is no Crean. Secondly, I just said he would likely get looks if he got axed.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Goose on April 03, 2019, 07:42:57 PM
guru

Wojo is not a home run hire at any program of substance. We might be a stepping stone program at the moment, but not for Woj at the moment.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 07:44:34 PM
I'm fully confident the administration is/has extended him. I'm also fully confident that they aren't dumb enough to announce it now given the optics of how the season ended and/or all these silly rumors. The former would anger the fanbase the later would make it look like MU gives into "extorsion".

Wojo ain't going anywhere

So given what you said in the above..you're confident they extended him...let's assume that's true...then you say they aren't dumb enough to announce it given the optics of how the season ended...so...given that, knowing it would be dumb to announce it...why would you extend him?? Why extend a Coach with three years still remaining on his contract. Basically, if they know it would be a bad idea to announce an extension...then why the hell would you give him one to begin with...shouldn't that tell them, it's probably not a good idea??
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: tower912 on April 03, 2019, 07:46:28 PM
Tower

First, sad to say, Wojo is no Crean. Secondly, I just said he would likely get looks if he got axed.
I am confident that at the 20 year mark of his coaching career, that his record will be better than Crean's at the same point.  Not the highest bar.   
And Wojo isn't going anywhere for a while.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 03, 2019, 08:01:16 PM
Goose,

            That's the problem, for a lessor program like Va Tech, Wojo would be a "home run hire". That's the truth and their fans admit that. An even bigger problem is that MU as a program should be way way way above a Va Tech program...and yet Wojo is their Head Coach. The message that sends, to me, isn't a good one. MU was a MUCH better program, and a much more desirable place to be for Coaches when they were in the Old Big East...now, it seems to be a stepping stone league for Coaches..That's telling really, and it's telling a very sad story for a once proud program like MU.

Yes ... it is a stepping stone conference to becoming one of the highest paid coaches in basketball.

But I think this is not what you meant.

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/

2019 NCAAB COACHES' PAY
RK
1   Kentucky   SEC   John Calipari   $7,950,000   $9,276,643   $50,000   $50,000   $25,000,000
2   Duke   ACC   Mike Krzyzewski   $7,048,206   $7,048,206   --   --   --
3   Michigan State   Big Ten   Tom Izzo   $3,732,562   $4,157,562   $350,000   $75,000   $5,325,950
4   Virginia   ACC   Tony Bennett   $4,150,000   $4,150,000   $1,450,000   $450,000   $19,793,478
5   Kansas   Big 12   Bill Self   $3,881,857   $4,066,857   $525,000   $225,000   $16,112,000
6   Louisville   ACC   Chris Mack   $4,007,494   $4,007,494   $375,000   --   $12,000,000
7   North Carolina   ACC   Roy Williams   $2,281,778   $3,928,778   $1,020,148   $200,000   $8,862,132
8   Villanova   Big East   Jay Wright   $3,878,768   $3,878,768   --   --   --
9   West Virginia   Big 12   Bob Huggins   $3,850,000   $3,865,000   $640,000   $200,000   $8,040,000
10   Michigan   Big Ten   John Beilein   $3,800,000   $3,800,000   $250,000   $175,000   $3,000,000
11   Utah   Pac-12   Larry Krystkowiak   $3,572,500   $3,572,500   $280,000   $80,000   $12,750,000
12   Wichita State   AAC   Gregg Marshall   $3,500,000   $3,570,000   $838,000   $151,000   $15,000,000
13   Indiana   Big Ten   Archie Miller   $3,250,000   $3,250,000   $1,035,000   $125,000   $17,000,000
14   Tennessee   SEC   Rick Barnes   $3,250,000   $3,250,000   $700,000   $125,000   $5,041,667
15   Texas   Big 12   Shaka Smart   $3,200,000   $3,200,000   $795,000   $45,000   $13,800,000
16   Georgia   SEC   Tom Crean   $3,200,000   $3,200,000   $450,000   --   $16,000,000
17   Oklahoma   Big 12   Lon Kruger   $3,200,000   $3,200,000   $270,000   $25,000   $3,900,000
18   Baylor   Big 12   Scott Drew   $3,051,076   $3,062,445   --   --   --
19   Alabama   SEC   Avery Johnson   $3,062,000   $3,062,000   $450,000   $75,000   $8,000,000
20   Ohio State   Big Ten   Chris Holtmann   $3,013,750   $3,013,750   $390,000   $90,000   $16,960,938

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on April 03, 2019, 08:11:25 PM
Billy

If Wojo was canned or on open market, he probably would get some looks. That is how the crazy biz works. I am strictly talking about the current situation. I cannot see how any on par or better program could sell their fan base on the hiring of Wojo. Programs want to make a splash, not trying to sell a hire to alums.

It would depend what state the program is in.  Not that hard a sell.  Young coach, took team to NCAA tournament 2 of last 3 years, developed player into a 2nd team All American, picked to be one of the next young coaches to go to the Final Four, too 10 finalist for national coach of the year.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on April 03, 2019, 08:13:12 PM
I am confident that at the 20 year mark of his coaching career, that his record will be better than Crean's at the same point.  Not the highest bar.   
And Wojo isn't going anywhere for a while.

I think this is accurate.  Crean has taken on rebuilds at every stop.  If Wojo avoids that moving forward, he will have a better record.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 03, 2019, 08:17:36 PM
his legitimate top 10 team
Nope.

They had a great first 27 games, but were never a legitimate top 10 team.  Top 20?  Top 25?  Sure.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 08:18:21 PM
I am confident that at the 20 year mark of his coaching career, that his record will be better than Crean's at the same point.  Not the highest bar.   
And Wojo isn't going anywhere for a while.

Will he have taken MU to a Final Four??
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: tower912 on April 03, 2019, 08:21:00 PM
If he is at MU  19 years, probably.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 03, 2019, 08:22:02 PM
Will he have taken MU to a Final Four??

Nobody knows that. Not even you.

It only took Jay Wright 15 years and John Beilein 21 years (in D1; 31 years overall) to get there, so I think Wojo can and will do it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 03, 2019, 08:27:21 PM
Nobody knows that. Not even you.

It only took Jay Wright 15 years and John Beilein 21 years (in D1; 31 years overall) to get there, so I think Wojo can and will do it.

Remind me again...how long did it take Crean at MU to get to one??
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warrior Code on April 03, 2019, 08:29:01 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e5/45/19/e545197c356096f5ae3d1b0bc7ca07c3.gif)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 03, 2019, 08:29:40 PM
Remind me again...how long did it take Crean at MU to get to one??

It took Steve Fisher 7 games.  Maybe we should rename the Wooden award the Fisher award.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 03, 2019, 08:32:51 PM
It took Steve Fisher 7 games.  Maybe we should rename the Wooden award the Fisher award.

Yep. In guru's eyes, this proves that Fisher is the greatest coach ever!

I think he's available. Fire Wojo.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: bilsu on April 03, 2019, 08:39:53 PM
Colt

Thoughtful analysis, generally plausible opinions. One nit I would pick is the "well oiled machine" meme. I think we were good, maybe even very good, but never top 10 good. Maybe on the edge of top 25 good (where Pomeroy had us). We were also very lucky. Down the stretch we had a few clunkers but also I think the "luck" element even out. We went from top 10 luckiest to the middle of the pack (#155) over the last 4 weeks.
I agree a lot with you.
People thought we were better than we were. Mostly because Markus led us to early victories over Kansas St. and Buffalo. I do not remember the last time MU actually played no games against teams that made the Sweet 16. It would have to be before we joined the Big East. I did not see any team in this year's Sweet 16 that I thought Marquette was better than. They all seemed to me to be far better defensive teams than MU was.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 09:24:09 PM
Wojo has absolutely done enough to be a "home run hire" at a place like Virginia Tech. Only the vocal minority on MUScoop would think otherwise.

It is also true that being a "home run hire" for a place like Virginia Tech is nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 03, 2019, 09:33:39 PM
Wojo has absolutely done enough to be a "home run hire" at a place like Virginia Tech. Only the vocal minority on MUScoop would think otherwise.

It is also true that being a "home run hire" for a place like Virginia Tech is nothing to write home about.

Your guy Arvin (facetious) still is saying as of few minutes ago Wojo is still at the top of the list. I'll give him this, he is holding on tight to his circle jerk.

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/Coaching-Hot-Board-Virginia-Tech-Hokies-Basketball-130836308/?Page=5#M130861425


Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 03, 2019, 09:58:14 PM
Your guy Arvin (facetious) still is saying as of few minutes ago Wojo is still at the top of the list. I'll give him this, he is holding on tight to his circle jerk.

https://247sports.com/college/virginia-tech/Board/59428/Contents/Coaching-Hot-Board-Virginia-Tech-Hokies-Basketball-130836308/?Page=5#M130861425

Rookie mistake. You never want to be the last guy in a circle jerk
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 03, 2019, 10:06:54 PM
Rookie mistake. You never want to be the last guy in a circle jerk

And now here comes the back tracking...pure rookie stuff

Quote
I can’t say for certain that it will be him, I’m just saying that’s what I’ve heard. They very well could be right. Whit doesn’t let too much leak out.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 10:11:28 PM
Very good. The perfect storm excuse. Better than some of the others

Not an excuse. Just an observation. I can most definitely be wrong. I just think the line between success and failure at this level is razor thin.

 Ever bet on a horse race? Trip cappers know when the best horse didn’t win.

 Not talking NCAA. Murray State was better than us. You could replay those last four BigEast losses ten times and we could’ve gone 7-3 in each series. Maybe 5-5 as a floor. But to take all 4 losses. That takes a mental toll. The Nova game turned on a dime, the @Hall game a switch flipped on their star at the perfect juncture, Creighton took the air out of the ball and yes we didn’t adjust, and Georgetown caught fire from deep.

Wojo hadn’t seen a scenario like that since the early K back surgery. I’ll admit, it probably caught him by surprise. He played the back-off card and it backfired. I will be honest..I got his point, but I don’t like what he said at the selection show party....that even if we lost, these guys need to know they’ve had a great season. It was intended to loosen them up, but it introduced doubt.

I truly believe Wojo is a very good fit for our school. I’m cool if others don’t agree.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 03, 2019, 10:16:30 PM
Rookie mistake. You never want to be the last guy in a circle jerk

No offense, but I'll pass on the circle jerk entirely. Not that there's anything wrong with it. I guess.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 10:33:08 PM
It took Steve Fisher 7 games.  Maybe we should rename the Wooden award the Fisher award.

Other than seeing Joel Quenneville and Mike Ditka regularly at Arlington Park, I have only seen two other high level coaches enter the den of my fellow degenerates at the local OTB....

Bill Frieder was at my local Northern Illinois off-track facility twice in the same recruiting season. Former Packers coach Ray Rhodes loved playing the ponies and he would stop off on the way to visiting his daughter. When you talked to Frieder you got the sense as to how he could recruit well. Really down-to-Earth guy. After all this time, I wonder if he regrets the career move much?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 03, 2019, 10:40:45 PM
Colt

Thoughtful analysis, generally plausible opinions. One nit I would pick is the "well oiled machine" meme. I think we were good, maybe even very good, but never top 10 good. Maybe on the edge of top 25 good (where Pomeroy had us). We were also very lucky. Down the stretch we had a few clunkers but also I think the "luck" element even out. We went from top 10 luckiest to the middle of the pack (#155) over the last 4 weeks.

Lenny, thanks, and I agree about your luck element. I still cannot believe the luck (and grit) it took to win that game in Omaha. The surge that game gave us in the schedule was invaluable. We went on a great run thereafter. Unfortunately, we caught the flip side of some luck-gone-bad late in the season.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Herman Cain on April 04, 2019, 12:18:32 AM
So for those who do not want to wade into the muck but want to understand the Wojo to VT rumors.

It started with the now famous series of flight tracker tweets. A Virginia Tech fan blog found a flight from Waukesha to Roanoke over the weekend. They concluded that the only reason that such a flight would exist is because Wojo is flying to interview for the Virginia Tech job. Keep in mind that Roanoke is an hour away from Virginia Tech and there is a private airfield in Blacksburg right off campus that any plane that could take off from Waukesha could certainly land at.

The same Virginia Tech fan blog then found a flight on Monday from Gary, Indiana to Blacksburg, VA. This time it was at least to the correct airport and the plane was registered to a VT booster. The fan blog then concluded again that the only reason a VT booster would fly from Gary to Blacksburg was to pickup Wojo for an interview. Or it was to pickup Wojo's family so that they could be with Wojo for the announcment. This of course ignores the fact that Gary is a 2-3 hour drive through Chicago traffic, so why the hell would they pick Gary as the pickup spot when there are dozens of airfields closer? It also ignores the fact that we have confirmation that Wojo was in Milwaukee filming Inside Marquette Basketball when this flight was supposedly taking him to Blacksburg.

Adding fuel to the fire of these rumors is the fact that Wojo deactivated his twitter account. VT fans think it is because he is job searching. Marquette fans think it is because he and his family was getting threats from twitter morons after the Murray State loss.

The rumors are now being continued by one person and one person only, Mr. Chris Arvin (https://twitter.com/chrisarvin_247?lang=en). He has not tweeted about any of his Wojo to VT rumors but he has been very confident on the private boards of VTScoop that it is a #donedeal. He claims to have a direct line to VT's AD and is very confidently proclaiming that Wojo is the next VT coach. Arvin describes himself as a "Basketball writer for VTScoop" on his twitter page and the posters there definitely treat him like an insider but he is not one of the official 247 insiders for Virginia Tech. No one else on VTScoop has claimed any inside information, they are all just following Chris' lead.

So really this comes down to this one poster on VTScoop. Maybe he does have a direct line to the AD and has some insider knowledge, though in my experience ADs usually don't hand that kind of information out to people and tell them they have free reign to post it on the internet. Or maybe this is a poster who has read enough tea leaves to convince himself that Wojo will be the next VT coach and is trying to make a name for himself by being the first person to call Wojo to VT. After all if he ends up being wrong he can always pull the "Mrs. Wojo didn't want to move to Blacksburg" card.
I think you are overly obsessed with the VT circle jerk leader
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on April 04, 2019, 02:33:21 AM
he is holding on tight to his circle jerk.


That doesn't sound like an effective technique...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 04, 2019, 04:34:59 AM
I think you are overly obsessed with the VT circle jerk leader

It's quite funny that you're calling someone else obsessive. Should we bring up Kostas and Jeenathan?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 04, 2019, 08:54:38 AM
11   Utah   Pac-12   Larry Krystkowiak   $3,572,500   $3,572,500   $280,000   $80,000   $12,750,000

Ultimately, I took one thing of value from the last 4-5 pages of this thread. Larry freaking Krystkowiak is the 11th highest paid coach in the game? More than Marshall, Kruger, or Holtmann? For what? A few second place Pac-12 finishes and one Sweet 16?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: pbiflyer on April 04, 2019, 09:02:23 AM
One of the people on the VPI boards posted that his wife works for the university and saw Wojo on the Blackburg campus. Those total amateurs, no mention of whether he was wearing a boot or not!

https://virginiatech.sportswar.com/mid/11769560/board/vtbasketball/
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: PointWarrior on April 04, 2019, 09:06:07 AM
It’s even better - it was the coworkers of the wife who works at the university saw Wojo on campus. 

A bit dubious when they also said they saw him at 31 flavors...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 04, 2019, 09:07:16 AM
Wait why's he on campus? I thought he was held up in Gary?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: jutaw22mu on April 04, 2019, 09:21:26 AM
One of the people on the VPI boards posted that his wife works for the university and saw Wojo on the Blackburg campus. Those total amateurs, no mention of whether he was wearing a boot or not!

https://virginiatech.sportswar.com/mid/11769560/board/vtbasketball/

LOL they are also talking about Jay Wright in other threads.  Talk about delusional. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: SERocks on April 04, 2019, 09:23:21 AM
LOL they are also talking about Jay Wright in other threads.  Talk about delusional.

I pray they don't have access to any high buildings on campus once the new coach is announced.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 04, 2019, 09:29:19 AM
Ultimately, I took one thing of value from the last 4-5 pages of this thread. Larry freaking Krystkowiak is the 11th highest paid coach in the game? More than Marshall, Kruger, or Holtmann? For what? A few second place Pac-12 finishes and one Sweet 16?

Looks to me like they understand the value of consistency/longevity, want to make sure he stays for the long haul
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: willie warrior on April 04, 2019, 09:33:31 AM
If he is at MU  19 years, probably.
Pure speculation
Nothing in his record of performance demonstrate that "probably"
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 04, 2019, 09:35:53 AM
Looks to me like they understand the value of consistency/longevity, want to make sure he stays for the long haul

He's been there for 8 years, not 18. He has more seasons with no postseason (3) than he does NCAA appearances (2). In terms of one of these things is not like the others, his name sticks out like a sore thumb on that list.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 04, 2019, 09:40:00 AM
I think you are overly obsessed with the VT circle jerk leader

Ha, maybe. I didn't think one post would qualify as overly obsessed but I guess I did spend about 15 minutes writing it.

I would say the more accurate feelings I have are amused and offended. It is amusing to me that an entire board of people would take statements like "direct line to the AD" "done deal" and "official official" and not question the validity of the statements because he is a self proclaimed insider. It's even more amusing to me that not even a full day later, that same insider is rapidly backtracking his earlier statements but despite that, his credibility doesn't seem to be damaged with these people at all. The lemming effect is an amusing phenomenon.

I am also offended. It's one thing when people come onto a free site like MUScoop and claim to have insider knowledge. But 247 requires that you pay money for access to these "insiders". There are some guys on there with legitimate inside access to some programs, and they have others like Mark Miller who put out quality content about the high school basketball scene...but much of what they sell is false advertising.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 04, 2019, 10:06:41 AM
In a response to the VT post about Wojo on campus, this has it 100% correct.

In a world of a 100 million  cell phone cameras and social media, you do not set foot on campus unless you want the world to know you’re there.

In fact take a selfie on campus and post it yourself.

—————

When Whit met with Fu about the football job, it was off campus. When he met with Buzz about the job, it was off campus. These deals don't get done on campus. They generally get done in big cities where the two parties can blend in and your average person doesn't recognize them. That's the best way to keep the negotiations a secret.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: pbiflyer on April 04, 2019, 10:20:12 AM
LOL they are also talking about Jay Wright in other threads.  Talk about delusional.

It is funny to read their comments about Buzz now. They are coming to the realization that he is a phony when it comes to his lines about commitment, university like a family, etc.
It's like Deja vu all over again.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on April 04, 2019, 10:40:57 AM
It is funny to read their comments about Buzz now. They are coming to the realization that he is a phony when it comes to his lines about commitment, university like a family, etc.
It's like Deja vu all over again.

In their defense, we didn't realize it until it was too late either.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: cheebs09 on April 04, 2019, 10:42:31 AM
When did we first hear about Buzz to VT? I thought there weren’t any rumors until it leaked that he accepted. I’d find it strange they went from such a tight lipped search to now having this many rumors about Wojo.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: jsglow on April 04, 2019, 10:44:43 AM
In their defense, we didn't realize it until it was too late either.

Cause there wasn't a track record.  His MO is very predictable now.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 04, 2019, 11:24:56 AM
It is funny to read their comments about Buzz now. They are coming to the realization that he is a phony when it comes to his lines about commitment, university like a family, etc.
It's like Deja vu all over again.

The well was poisoned for Buzz at MU by the whole Pilarz/L Williams fiasco. Some of that falls on Buzz, but nevertheless he felt that MU's commitment to him had wavered and he was right. He also felt that the new Big East was a big step down and that the future here was murky. So, after leading us to our 2nd most successful run in our history he left. How that makes him a phony eludes me.

He went to Virginia Tech, a college basketball wasteland. He took them to the NCAA tournament 3 straight times, culminating in a S16 run this year. Most successful coach in their history, but isn't that about the ceiling for a program like V Tech? So he's going home to a program with a higher one. I never read anything about Buzz Williams saying he was at V Tech for life. I don't understand how taking a better job makes him a phony in this instance either.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warrior_2002 on April 04, 2019, 11:25:57 AM
So Wojo was just on the local rock station with Bob and Brian for their MACC Fund Radiothon.  I didn’t hear it and maybe it was a prior commitment he didn’t want to break but just more reason to show there is no truth to him heading to VTech.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2019, 11:36:49 AM
The well was poisoned for Buzz at MU by the whole Pilarz/L Williams fiasco. Some of that falls on Buzz, but nevertheless he felt that MU's commitment to him had wavered and he was right. He also felt that the new Big East was a big step down and that the future here was murky. So, after leading us to our 2nd most successful run in our history he left. How that makes him a phony eludes me.

He went to Virginia Tech, a college basketball wasteland. He took them to the NCAA tournament 3 straight times, culminating in a S16 run this year. Most successful coach in their history, but isn't that about the ceiling for a program like V Tech? So he's going home to a program with a higher one. I never read anything about Buzz Williams saying he was at V Tech for life. I don't understand how taking a better job makes him a phony in this instance either.

All his talk about loyalty and commitment to MU, and then going elsewhere when faced with real or perceived adversity, makes him no different than most other coaches. That's why I've never been "angry" at Buzz. He wasn't a special guy, he wasn't a bad guy. He was just another coach looking out for himself. That's the business. That's many businesses.

As for VT, he owed them nothing but 100% commitment and effort while he was there, and you're right, Lenny, he gave them that and the most successful run in school history. Again, he did what coaches do -- leave for greener pastures. He did what most of us would do or have done.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 04, 2019, 11:36:57 AM
The well was poisoned for Buzz at MU by the whole Pilarz/L Williams fiasco. Some of that falls on Buzz, but nevertheless he felt that MU's commitment to him had wavered and he was right. He also felt that the new Big East was a big step down and that the future here was murky. So, after leading us to our 2nd most successful run in our history he left. How that makes him a phony eludes me.

He went to Virginia Tech, a college basketball wasteland. He took them to the NCAA tournament 3 straight times, culminating in a S16 run this year. Most successful coach in their history, but isn't that about the ceiling for a program like V Tech? So he's going home to a program with a higher one. I never read anything about Buzz Williams saying he was at V Tech for life. I don't understand how taking a better job makes him a phony in this instance either.

Well that was the yarn he spun anyhoo
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 04, 2019, 11:50:35 AM
All his talk about loyalty and commitment to MU, and then going elsewhere when faced with real or perceived adversity, makes him no different than most other coaches. That's why I've never been "angry" at Buzz. He wasn't a special guy, he wasn't a bad guy. He was just another coach looking out for himself. That's the business. That's many businesses.

As for VT, he owed them nothing but 100% commitment and effort while he was there, and you're right, Lenny, he gave them that and the most successful run in school history. Again, he did what coaches do -- leave for greener pastures. He did what most of us would do or have done.

Yep, I think this is a Clear eyed post.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 04, 2019, 11:58:52 AM
The well was poisoned for Buzz at MU by the whole Pilarz/L Williams fiasco. Some of that falls on Buzz, but nevertheless he felt that MU's commitment to him had wavered and he was right. He also felt that the new Big East was a big step down and that the future here was murky. So, after leading us to our 2nd most successful run in our history he left. How that makes him a phony eludes me.

He went to Virginia Tech, a college basketball wasteland. He took them to the NCAA tournament 3 straight times, culminating in a S16 run this year. Most successful coach in their history, but isn't that about the ceiling for a program like V Tech? So he's going home to a program with a higher one. I never read anything about Buzz Williams saying he was at V Tech for life. I don't understand how taking a better job makes him a phony in this instance either.

Spot on
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: muguru on April 04, 2019, 12:07:49 PM
Spot on

I find it amusing that so many fans here are still so butt hurt over Buzz leaving, and less so but Crean leaving as well. On one hand, they feel jilted because in their minds how could any Coach want to leave MU it's a great job etc etc. Yet then these SAME exact fans, after the Coach does leave, throw out some of the most ridiculously small time names of Coaches they want to replace that Coach you could ever imagine. So, which is it?? Is MU a great job, or is it small time(like the names most suggest)?? I get amused by that.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 04, 2019, 12:08:24 PM
When did we first hear about Buzz to VT? I thought there weren’t any rumors until it leaked that he accepted. I’d find it strange they went from such a tight lipped search to now having this many rumors about Wojo.

I heard after the fact and remember laughing when my wife told me second hand. It just seemed wholly implausible at the time.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TallTitan34 on April 04, 2019, 12:16:05 PM
The well was poisoned for Buzz at MU by the whole Pilarz/L Williams fiasco. Some of that falls on Buzz, but nevertheless he felt that MU's commitment to him had wavered and he was right. He also felt that the new Big East was a big step down and that the future here was murky. So, after leading us to our 2nd most successful run in our history he left. How that makes him a phony eludes me.

He's a phony because he preaches all of his loyalty and family garbage.  Not to mention all of his "humble guy" crap.  Look at his twitter feed.  It 50% southern preacher 50% teenage girl.  This a$$hole includes his hashtag in his signature. 

Funny how his relationship with the administration goes south just before every departure.  UNO, MU, VT...




Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2019, 12:20:20 PM
I find it amusing that so many fans here are still so butt hurt over Buzz leaving, and less so but Crean leaving as well. On one hand, they feel jilted because in their minds how could any Coach want to leave MU it's a great job etc etc. Yet then these SAME exact fans, after the Coach does leave, throw out some of the most ridiculously small time names of Coaches they want to replace that Coach you could ever imagine. So, which is it?? Is MU a great job, or is it small time(like the names most suggest)?? I get amused by that.

What is small time?

Was Buzz small time? Do you think he accomplished a lot at Marquette?

How about Chris Beard at any point before TTech hired him? You have sung his praises repeatedly the last few days but it seems you would be outraged if Marquette hired a "small-time" coach with a decidedly small-time resume.

You know who wasn't small time? Shaka. He's worked out great for Texas so far. How about Cuonzo Martin? Definitely not small time. He used Cal and bolted at the first opportunity. Steve Alford wasn't small-time; did wonders at UCLA. Crean was no small-timer when Indiana hired him; it didn't take long for IU fans to want to dump him. Larry Brown? HUGE TIME! SMU might never win again. Etc, etc, etc.

If Wojo left today, and I could choose anybody available to replace him, Thad Matta would be my #1 if his health is good and if his heart is really into coaching basketball. He certainly is not small-time, and I'd welcome him to Marquette.

But if he said no or if it was determined his heart wasn't in it, and after a search the best we could do was a long-time top assistant like Wojo (or like Izzo once was) or a mid-major coach like Beard was 3 years ago, or even Stan from our own staff, I would accept it and encourage MU fans to give him a chance.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2019, 12:27:30 PM
Cause there wasn't a track record.  His MO is very predictable now.

Yep.

Fool me once....
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 04, 2019, 12:34:24 PM
All his talk about loyalty and commitment to MU, and then going elsewhere when faced with real or perceived adversity, makes him no different than most other coaches. That's why I've never been "angry" at Buzz. He wasn't a special guy, he wasn't a bad guy. He was just another coach looking out for himself. That's the business. That's many businesses.

As for VT, he owed them nothing but 100% commitment and effort while he was there, and you're right, Lenny, he gave them that and the most successful run in school history. Again, he did what coaches do -- leave for greener pastures. He did what most of us would do or have done.

Very well-said. Couldn’t agree more.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2019, 12:35:26 PM
The well was poisoned for Buzz at MU by the whole Pilarz/L Williams fiasco. Some of that falls on Buzz, but nevertheless he felt that MU's commitment to him had wavered and he was right. He also felt that the new Big East was a big step down and that the future here was murky. So, after leading us to our 2nd most successful run in our history he left. How that makes him a phony eludes me.

He went to Virginia Tech, a college basketball wasteland. He took them to the NCAA tournament 3 straight times, culminating in a S16 run this year. Most successful coach in their history, but isn't that about the ceiling for a program like V Tech? So he's going home to a program with a higher one. I never read anything about Buzz Williams saying he was at V Tech for life. I don't understand how taking a better job makes him a phony in this instance either.


I don't disagree with much of what you say...but I'm not sure the ceiling is higher at TAMU than VPI. TAMU has more NCAA appearances, but VPI has gotten farther (E8 vs S16). Neither has been a hoops powerhouse.

So what determines the ceiling? IMHO, it's the schools' commitments to sports, and conference affiliation. Both seem willing to pull up the cash wagon. And while the SEC is very good, it isn't as good as the ACC. And Buzz' history (MU to VPI) shows that conference affiliation is important to him - you said that yourself.

Frankly, I see VPI to TAMU as a wash (at best) in terms of program ceilings.

I think this is about Buzz just being Buzz. He loves being the savior, but once the initial glow wears off, he needs new digs....
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 04, 2019, 12:38:40 PM
In terms of history TAMU and VPI are a wash.

In terms of $$$, TAMU wins in a landslide.

I think the ceiling at TAMU is significantly higher
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 04, 2019, 12:39:54 PM
In terms of history TAMU and VPI are a wash.

In terms of $$$, TAMU wins in a landslide.

I think the ceiling at TAMU is significantly higher

That one team with Acie Law was pretty good!
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jockey on April 04, 2019, 12:41:47 PM
Ha, maybe. I didn't think one post would qualify as overly obsessed but I guess I did spend about 15 minutes writing it.

I would say the more accurate feelings I have are amused and offended. It is amusing to me that an entire board of people would take statements like "direct line to the AD" "done deal" and "official official" and not question the validity of the statements because he is a self proclaimed insider.


Not the entire board, but enough so that I am amused as well.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2019, 12:43:38 PM
In terms of history TAMU and VPI are a wash.

In terms of $$$, TAMU wins in a landslide.

I think the ceiling at TAMU is significantly higher


What about conference affiliation? Everyone says the ACC is always Duke and UNC and then a bunch of almost-powers that will never really surpass them...but the same could be said about UK and the SEC. IMHO, he's just agreeing to be one of the almost-powers in a different conference.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 04, 2019, 12:46:23 PM
In terms of history TAMU and VPI are a wash.

In terms of $$$, TAMU wins in a landslide.

I think the ceiling at TAMU is significantly higher

With Texas Tech emerging, Shaka needs to get out of Austin....especially with the Buzzard circling “nearby” (ok, Texas is big). Haven’t followed Texas recruiting, but isn’t the consensus that Shaka has mostly East coast connections? Wouldn’t VPI make sense given his success at VCU?

What do you see as the Texas hoops hierarchy in 5years? Who reigns, and how long will it last?

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: avid1010 on April 04, 2019, 12:46:33 PM
there's a problem with leaving if you made a promise to kids or co-workers...if not...feel free to go. 

when you decide to leave...there is a way to do so with class.

i think whether or not you feel you owe anything to an institution is up to the individual to determine. 

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 04, 2019, 12:54:16 PM
With Texas Tech emerging, Shaka needs to get out of Austin....especially with the Buzzard circling “nearby” (ok, Texas is big). Haven’t followed Texas recruiting, but isn’t the consensus that Shaka has mostly East coast connections? Wouldn’t VPI make sense given his success at VCU?

What do you see as the Texas hoops hierarchy in 5years? Who reigns, and how long will it last?

If I were VT, I'd be pursuing Shaka hard.  I have no idea if he'd go.  If he gets fired, well that obviously changes things and increases the likelihood.  If he doesn't get fired, that would be a really tough blow to your ego (and, presumably, to your wallet) -- to go from UT to VT.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2019, 12:58:40 PM
If I were VT, I'd be pursuing Shaka hard.  I have no idea if he'd go.  If he gets fired, well that obviously changes things and increases the likelihood.  If he doesn't get fired, that would be a really tough blow to your ego (and, presumably, to your wallet) -- to go from UT to VT.

But does Mrs. Shaka want to live in Blacksburg?  ;)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Skip Intro on April 04, 2019, 01:08:04 PM
With Texas Tech emerging, Shaka needs to get out of Austin....especially with the Buzzard circling “nearby” (ok, Texas is big). Haven’t followed Texas recruiting, but isn’t the consensus that Shaka has mostly East coast connections? Wouldn’t VPI make sense given his success at VCU?

What do you see as the Texas hoops hierarchy in 5years? Who reigns, and how long will it last?

No doubt that Buzz will succeed in recruiting the state - Shaka's going to need his East Coast connections.  I could see Shaka leaving for VT if he's having any hesitation about staying in Austin (or them keeping him on).  If he waits around another season, who knows what jobs are open in the "preferred" conferences?  BC?  Penn State?

I think Buzz has proven that he'll have A&M on the heels of UK within a few years, which is all their fanbase will ask for.  A no-brainer move for him.   
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 04, 2019, 01:27:13 PM
I think Buzz has proven that he'll have A&M on the heels of UK within a few years, which is all their fanbase will ask for.  A no-brainer move for him.   

I think so too.  I think Buzz is an odd bird, but I don't have any animus toward him.  This is a fantastic move for him, and I'd expect TAMU to improve rapidly and be very competitive for years to come.  I expect Buzz to settle in and stay at TAMU for a good long time.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2019, 01:29:59 PM
I could see Shaka leaving for VT if he's having any hesitation about staying in Austin (or them keeping him on).  If he waits around another season, who knows what jobs are open in the "preferred" conferences?  BC?  Penn State?

Marquette?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on April 04, 2019, 01:30:29 PM
I think so too.  I think Buzz is an odd bird, but I don't have any animus toward him.  This is a fantastic move for him, and I'd expect TAMU to improve rapidly and be very competitive for years to come.  I expect Buzz to settle in and stay at TAMU for a good long time.

He'll be there for 4-7 years and make bank at a blue blood when a spot becomes available.

Should we worry about Wojo to TAMU when Buzz takes over at Duke?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: StillAWarrior on April 04, 2019, 01:36:12 PM
He'll be there for 4-7 years and make bank at a blue blood when a spot becomes available.

I'll take the over.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
Should we worry about Wojo to TAMU when Buzz takes over at Duke?


Or Wojo to UGa when TC is gowne?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 04, 2019, 01:53:16 PM
I would be shocked if Buzz is still at A&M in six years.  His personality is one where is almost gets restless once he reaches a high-level of success.  I wouldn't be surprised if he followed a train of a thought where "I won now, so the expectations are higher; data shows those expectations are unlikely to be met, thus I should go to a place where I am valued before I get run out of here". 

Long-term, I envision Buzz having a similar collegiate career path to that of Lon Kruger - always moving on after several years at a program.  Buzz also has coached four D1 programs before the age of 50.  That is incredibly impressive/unique.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 04, 2019, 02:00:53 PM
I would be shocked if Buzz is still at A&M in six years.  His personality is one where is almost gets restless once he reaches a high-level of success.

I wouldn't be. I could see Buzz there for 8-10 years. Now that he's closer to home, I think he sticks until a really big job comes calling. UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, something like that. I think he'll be very successful at A&M and try to turn that into a blue blood job. I don't expect more lateral moves from him just because.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 04, 2019, 02:03:46 PM
Crean and Buzz are both fixers, not sustainers.  I honestly think Buzz prefers schools where hoops is #2.  He couldn't take the heat at the two stops where hoops was #1.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: dannyb334 on April 04, 2019, 02:04:39 PM
  Buzz also has coached four D1 programs before the age of 50.  That is incredibly impressive/unique.

And keep in mind he had decent success at 2 out of 3 already
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 04, 2019, 02:05:23 PM
Crean and Buzz are both fixers, not sustainers.  I honestly think Buzz prefers schools where hoops is #2.  He couldn't take the heat at the two stops where hoops was #1.

What is the second bball first school? 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on April 04, 2019, 02:05:39 PM
I'll take the over.

Fair, Texas people do love to get back to Texas.  I'm confident Buzz can be a hillbilly at any number of schools, though.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 04, 2019, 02:08:22 PM
What is the second bball first school?

UNO
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Scat on April 04, 2019, 02:10:36 PM
What is the second bball first school?

I assume he meant UNO.  The circumstances of Buzz's departure from UNO were so unique I don't think you can read much into it (other than that Buzz will bolt if things get difficult).
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 04, 2019, 02:12:52 PM
I assume he meant UNO.  The circumstances of Buzz's departure from UNO were so unique I don't think you can read much into it (other than that Buzz will bolt if things get difficult).

Yes. He threw temper tantrums at both when he didn't get his way.  Different stage, same behavior.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Pakuni on April 04, 2019, 02:20:15 PM
Buzz also has coached four D1 programs before the age of 50.  That is incredibly impressive/unique.

Puts him in elite company with Steve Alford and Oliver Purnell.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on April 04, 2019, 02:28:55 PM
UNO

Doc

But isn't saying UNO is a basketball first school like saying the Swiss Army ranks higher than the Swiss Navy?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2019, 02:34:02 PM
I wouldn't be. I could see Buzz there for 8-10 years. Now that he's closer to home, I think he sticks until a really big job comes calling. UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, something like that. I think he'll be very successful at A&M and try to turn that into a blue blood job. I don't expect more lateral moves from him just because.

I hear ya and generally agree ... except who's to say that a blueblood doesn't come calling waaaay before 8-10 years? If he's successful at TAMU in, say 3 years, and if the program is clean (or at least cleanish), a blueblood with big $$$ could go for him. Or he could even give the NBA a shot. It sounds ridiculous, but I wouldn't have believed it for Kruger or KO or Stevens, either.

But yeah, I doubt he makes another lateral move.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 04, 2019, 02:40:47 PM
Marquette?
:)  ;)
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jockey on April 04, 2019, 03:03:08 PM
I would be shocked if Buzz is still at A&M in six years.  His personality is one where is almost gets restless once he reaches a high-level of success.   



I agree. He not only gets restless, but also power hungry, which leads to conflicts with the higher-ups.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GOO on April 04, 2019, 03:17:36 PM
I agree. He not only gets restless, but also power hungry, which leads to conflicts with the higher-ups.
He needs an AD and President that will massage his ego, not be critical and let him do his thing.  Would anyone who has worked with him not say that he is difficult and thin skinned.  I wonder if he even sees himself that way.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on April 04, 2019, 03:29:25 PM
Wojo said today he is happy at Marquette, aware of the coaching carousel conversations. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 04, 2019, 03:42:33 PM
NM
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on April 04, 2019, 03:57:20 PM
Wojo said today he is happy at Marquette, aware of the coaching carousel conversations.

That’s exactly what someone negotiating a new job would say...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: BM1090 on April 04, 2019, 04:00:34 PM
Full quote:

I love where I am. I suppose it's a good thing when your phone is ringing and your name is being mentioned on the coaching carousel, but I'm happy with @MarquetteMBB.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: cheebs09 on April 04, 2019, 04:04:45 PM
I wonder if Buzz leaves for TAMU if he stayed at MU instead of VT and no one messed with his “happy.” For the record, I don’t disagree with some of it, but definitely the administration handled it poorly.

Did he turn down TAMU when he was at MU? Or was Oklahoma and SMU the main ones?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on April 04, 2019, 04:32:39 PM
I wonder if Buzz leaves for TAMU if he stayed at MU instead of VT and no one messed with his “happy.” For the record, I don’t disagree with some of it, but definitely the administration handled it poorly.

Did he turn down TAMU when he was at MU? Or was Oklahoma and SMU the main ones?

That’s an impossible scenario, as Buzz ensures someone messes with his “happy” every ~6 years.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jockey on April 04, 2019, 04:38:07 PM
I wonder if Buzz leaves for TAMU if he stayed at MU instead of VT and no one messed with his “happy.” For the record, I don’t disagree with some of it, but definitely the administration handled it poorly.

Did he turn down TAMU when he was at MU? Or was Oklahoma and SMU the main ones?

Isn't saying that no one should mess with his 'happy' the same as saying they should be kissing his a$$ at all times?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Windyplayer on April 04, 2019, 04:38:43 PM
Full quote:

I love where I am. I suppose it's a good thing when your phone is ringing and your name is being mentioned on the coaching carousel, but I'm happy with @MarquetteMBB.
I'm so glad this was in the 24th page of this thread.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Tums Festival on April 04, 2019, 04:53:19 PM
Of course he's happy here. He makes good coin and his bosses care more about having a clean program than one that wins at the highest level.

Full quote:

I love where I am. I suppose it's a good thing when your phone is ringing and your name is being mentioned on the coaching carousel, but I'm happy with @MarquetteMBB.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Marcus92 on April 04, 2019, 05:02:18 PM
It's possible Buzz messes with his own happy. He identifies with the underdog -- the one everyone's against, the one that's expected to lose. When he finds success and starts to get comfortable somewhere, that might just make him uncomfortable.

Who is Virginia Tech? Perhaps the ultimate underdog. Think back to when Buzz arrived. In the ACC and the college basketball world, VT is nobody. They have virtually no history of winning, with just 8 NCAA appearances between 1908 and 2014. They're a vagabond -- moving from independent status (1908-1921) to the Southern Conference (1921-1965) back to independent status (1965-1977) to the Metro Conference (1978-1995) to the Atlantic 10 (1995-2000) to the Big East (2000-2004) to the ACC (2004-today).

The Hokies were also coming off a 9-22 season in which they finished dead last in the conference (15th out of 15 teams) and had missed the NCAA tournament for seven straight seasons.

Buzz comes in and leads Virginia Tech to three consecutive NCAA appearances for the first time in school history -- including the first Sweet 16 since 1967. Suddenly, the Hokies aren't such underdogs anymore. They're not expected to lose. Instead, they're expected to challenge Duke, UNC, Virginia and Louisville at the top of the conference.

Buzz might be at his best with a big chip on his shoulder, and start to get restless without one.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 04, 2019, 05:06:56 PM
I hear ya and generally agree ... except who's to say that a blueblood doesn't come calling waaaay before 8-10 years?

Just the math. Roy is 68 & K is 72. Not sure either program would go outside the family, maybe UNC if Roy goes sooner. Cal is 60 & just signed a lifetime deal that will probably keep him at Kentucky at least a decade while Self is 56. I don't think he goes to UCLA or Indiana that are a shell of their former selves.

I suppose maybe Texas or Arizona could come calling, depending on how you rate those programs. Louisville if Mack fails. There just aren't that many jobs of that caliber, and UNC seems like the only one that might both come open & consider Buzz in that timeline.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2019, 05:35:53 PM
Just the math. Roy is 68 & K is 72. Not sure either program would go outside the family, maybe UNC if Roy goes sooner. Cal is 60 & just signed a lifetime deal that will probably keep him at Kentucky at least a decade while Self is 56. I don't think he goes to UCLA or Indiana that are a shell of their former selves.

I suppose maybe Texas or Arizona could come calling, depending on how you rate those programs. Louisville if Mack fails. There just aren't that many jobs of that caliber, and UNC seems like the only one that might both come open & consider Buzz in that timeline.

I know many people assume Duke will hire a former K player, but I'm not so sure anyone has proven they can keep the program where their fans expect it. And their history has been to go outside. K had no prior affiliation with Duke when they hired him away from Army and it worked out pretty well. And remember - this was a very solid program long before K. They had 4 Final Four appearances and 2 Players of the Year before he ever showed up, so they easily could have gone with one of Bill Foster's assistants.

We also need to remember that blue bloods generally haven't had great luck hiring former players. Larry Farmer and Walt Hazzard at UCLA, Matt Doherty at UNC, Mike Davis at IU. The notable exception is ol' Roy, but he had had exceptional success at KU...FAR greater than any former Dukie to this point.

IMHO - it's gonna take at least one Final Four (or at least something pretty damn close) for the Duke faithful to be fully on board with a guy like Dawkins, Collins or Wojo.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 04, 2019, 05:52:36 PM
K has been there 4 decades, so I'm not going to consider how they did business in the 1970s before they were a blue blood (they were a good program today, but not this) to be the way they'll carry on now. If K wants to pick his successor, I imagine he'll get that chance.

UNC definitely had the buyer's remorse with Doherty, I could see them going outside, but unless he dies on the job, I'd guess K will have a lot of say in who follows him.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2019, 06:02:32 PM
K has been there 4 decades, so I'm not going to consider how they did business in the 1970s before they were a blue blood (they were a good program today, but not this) to be the way they'll carry on now. If K wants to pick his successor, I imagine he'll get that chance.

UNC definitely had the buyer's remorse with Doherty, I could see them going outside, but unless he dies on the job, I'd guess K will have a lot of say in who follows him.


Yes, he will have a lot of say. But if he looks down the bench and doesn't think they have the guy, his say might be to look elsewhere. I'm guessing he's pulling really hard for guys like Wojo and Dawkins to succeed...partly because he likes them, and partly because he wants to make sure they're ready to carry the legacy.

If you had to guess which former assistant he'd pick if he retired tomorrow, who do you think it would be? I'd guess Dawkins, but he definitely has some question marks....
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 04, 2019, 06:12:42 PM

We also need to remember that blue bloods generally haven't had great luck hiring former players. Larry Farmer and Walt Hazzard at UCLA, Matt Doherty at UNC, Mike Davis at IU. The notable exception is ol' Roy, but he had had exceptional success at KU...FAR greater than any former Dukie to this point.

IMHO - it's gonna take at least one Final Four (or at least something pretty damn close) for the Duke faithful to be fully on board with a guy like Dawkins, Collins or Wojo.

Mike Davis played at Alabama, not Indiana. He got the job at IU based on the timing of What's Up, Knight's firing and being the top assistant at the time and did well enough to keep it.

Farmer actually did well at UCLA, but they were so close to the Wooden era nothing would have been good enough.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2019, 06:18:15 PM
Mike Davis played at Alabama, not Indiana. He got the job at IU based on the timing of What's Up, Knight's firing and being the top assistant at the time and did well enough to keep it.

Farmer actually did well at UCLA, but they were so close to the Wooden era nothing would have been good enough.

My bad on Davis.

As for Farmer being so closely removed from Wooden...the next Duke coach will have the same issue. Kinda like Hank did at MU - 5 tourneys in 6 years, and people were glad when he quit coaching.

Still curious who people think K will tab.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: texaswarrior74 on April 04, 2019, 06:19:11 PM
Just the math. Roy is 68 & K is 72. Not sure either program would go outside the family, maybe UNC if Roy goes sooner. Cal is 60 & just signed a lifetime deal that will probably keep him at Kentucky at least a decade while Self is 60......

I suppose maybe Texas or Arizona could come calling, depending on how you rate those programs. Louisville if Mack fails. There just aren't that many jobs of that caliber, and UNC seems like the only one that might both come open & consider Buzz in that timeline.

Buzz is in no way a fit for dook. I doubt he’d even be on their short list.

I don’t see Buzz ever at UNC, they will stay in the family and again is not a fit there. If Stackhouse gets the Vandy gig he would be heir apparent or possibly even Wes Miller if he gets a new bigger gig after his success at UNCG.

I can see Buzz at Kansas unless Self gets caught up in the current FBI/NCAA investigation and is released/replaced in the next year or two and his successor does well enough to stay around for a good while.

Going from TAMU to Texas would be a very slippery slope in this state and given TAMU’s penchant for going big or not going at all, he could be a king there if he is successful and decides to stick around.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 04, 2019, 06:22:30 PM
Isn't saying that no one should mess with his 'happy' the same as saying they should be kissing his a$$ at all times?

Or flushing his toilet.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 04, 2019, 06:27:53 PM
Or And flushing his toilet.

FIFY
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silent Verbal on April 04, 2019, 07:05:54 PM
Full quote:

I love where I am. I suppose it's a good thing when your phone is ringing and your name is being mentioned on the coaching carousel, but I'm happy with @MarquetteMBB.

First, where was this?

Second, why wouldn’t he be happy at Marquette?  He makes great money, gets zero heat from the media, and is under no pressure from the administration to do anything more than run a clean program and produce the fair to middling results we’ve seen.  He was probably laughing at Dixon for taking UCLA.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: avid1010 on April 04, 2019, 08:09:22 PM
First, where was this?

Second, why wouldn’t he be happy at Marquette?  He makes great money, gets zero heat from the media, and is under no pressure from the administration to do anything more than run a clean program and produce the fair to middling results we’ve seen.  He was probably laughing at Dixon for taking UCLA.
Yeah...wojo strikes me as the kind of guy that looks for a low accountability job so he can coast through life.  I question if he is our long term solution as much as the next...but acting like he needs accountability or to feel pressure from admin is just ignorant.  Im glad he likes MU...wish he would have won one more BEAST game this year...im proud of how he and the players rep MU off the court...hope we make another step forward next year. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 04, 2019, 08:33:23 PM
Of course he's happy here. He makes good coin and his bosses care more about having a clean program than one that wins at the highest level.

Bad logic in your post. It implies he too, and not just his bosses, care less about winning at the highest level than staying out of trouble and having good academics...

    MU
Basketball....

Be A+ and Safe
Everyday.

Slogans are just that. But they do help set goals and the culture. Pretty sure Wojo intended his slogan to encompass academics, athletics, and life in general. Oh wait...”as students, as athletes, as people.”
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 04, 2019, 08:44:25 PM
My bad on Davis.

As for Farmer being so closely removed from Wooden...the next Duke coach will have the same issue. Kinda like Hank did at MU - 5 tourneys in 6 years, and people were glad when he quit coaching.

Still curious who people think K will tab.

You never want to be the guy replacing The Guy. There are a few schools that are going to have to deal with this soon: Duke, UNC, Michigan State, Syracuse (though they probably hire Mike Hopkins).
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 04, 2019, 08:50:16 PM
You never want to be the guy replacing The Guy. There are a few schools that are going to have to deal with this soon: Duke, UNC, Michigan State, Syracuse (though they probably hire Mike Hopkins).

I agree. If K really has the softest spot in his heart for Wojo among all his assistants, as has been said..........he’s already advised him to be the guy after The Guy.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: forgetful on April 04, 2019, 09:42:12 PM
It's possible Buzz messes with his own happy. He identifies with the underdog -- the one everyone's against, the one that's expected to lose. When he finds success and starts to get comfortable somewhere, that might just make him uncomfortable.

Who is Virginia Tech? Perhaps the ultimate underdog. Think back to when Buzz arrived. In the ACC and the college basketball world, VT is nobody. They have virtually no history of winning, with just 8 NCAA appearances between 1908 and 2014. They're a vagabond -- moving from independent status (1908-1921) to the Southern Conference (1921-1965) back to independent status (1965-1977) to the Metro Conference (1978-1995) to the Atlantic 10 (1995-2000) to the Big East (2000-2004) to the ACC (2004-today).

The Hokies were also coming off a 9-22 season in which they finished dead last in the conference (15th out of 15 teams) and had missed the NCAA tournament for seven straight seasons.

Buzz comes in and leads Virginia Tech to three consecutive NCAA appearances for the first time in school history -- including the first Sweet 16 since 1967. Suddenly, the Hokies aren't such underdogs anymore. They're not expected to lose. Instead, they're expected to challenge Duke, UNC, Virginia and Louisville at the top of the conference.

Buzz might be at his best with a big chip on his shoulder, and start to get restless without one.

Buzz transitions from everybody is out to get his team, to everyone (in the administration) is out to get him. He has to feel the victim or little guy. You are right, he ruins his own happy.

Also, although VPI does not have a long track record, they were not bottom of the barrel. We were "team bubble watch" under Buzz for most of the time. We were on the right side of the bubble. The other "team bubble watch" was VPI, who was on the other side of the bubble because of weak out of conference schedules. Under Greenburg they were 170-123, for a winning percentage of 58%. Buzz was 100-69, for a 59% winning percentage at VPI.

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Oregon Warrior on April 04, 2019, 09:45:43 PM
Full quote:

I love where I am. I suppose it's a good thing when your phone is ringing and your name is being mentioned on the coaching carousel, but I'm happy with @MarquetteMBB.

Link?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2019, 10:05:43 PM
Yeah...wojo strikes me as the kind of guy that looks for a low accountability job so he can coast through life.

Why?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 04, 2019, 10:28:10 PM
Why?

Read the rest of Avid's post. Like you, he's not a teal guy.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: MU82 on April 04, 2019, 11:42:09 PM
Read the rest of Avid's post. Like you, he's not a teal guy.

Thanks Lenny. Just did as you suggested, and I see. I like it.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on April 05, 2019, 03:07:16 AM
You never want to be the guy replacing The Guy. There are a few schools that are going to have to deal with this soon: Duke, UNC, Michigan State, Syracuse (though they probably hire Mike Hopkins).

Hopkins isn't going anywhere. He will be at U Dub for years.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: avid1010 on April 05, 2019, 05:41:37 AM
You never want to be the guy replacing The Guy. There are a few schools that are going to have to deal with this soon: Duke, UNC, Michigan State, Syracuse (though they probably hire Mike Hopkins).
You do if you are really good and confident in what you do.  You dont want to be the school hiring the guy who flammed out following the legend....which tells me the school made a bad choice on who to hire when the legend left. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 05, 2019, 07:33:31 AM
Hopkins isn't going anywhere. He will be at U Dub for years.

Seattle >>>>>>>>>> Syracuse

Pressure to win <<<<<<< Syracuse

Conference competition <<<<<<<< ACC

seems like a no-brainer to me
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: The Sultan of Semantics on April 05, 2019, 07:34:59 AM
Seattle >>>>>>>>>> Syracuse

Pressure to win <<<<<<< Syracuse

Conference competition <<<<<<<< ACC

seems like a no-brainer to me

They may circle back to him twice like UNC did with Williams. Who knows what he actually thinks in the matter.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: PointWarrior on April 05, 2019, 08:29:28 AM


The Tech Lunch Pail
@techlunchpaild
Here's a final update on all of this. As I've been informed last night, the flight connected to VT was not being used in the coaching search. Simply coincidental timing and business being done. Timing of flights from Milwaukee area brought intrigue but nothing to it. Carry on


One of you much better at trolling, please go troll this turd.

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 05, 2019, 08:41:37 AM
You do if you are really good and confident in what you do.  You dont want to be the school hiring the guy who flammed out following the legend....which tells me the school made a bad choice on who to hire when the legend left.

Exactly you take the chance n succeed or fail.  You dont wait around expecting the next guy to fail, because at most blue bloods the next guy does not fail.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: onepost on April 05, 2019, 09:18:05 AM
I agree. If K really has the softest spot in his heart for Wojo among all his assistants, as has been said..........he’s already advised him to be the guy after The Guy.

the guy after the guy after The Guy**
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Bocephys on April 05, 2019, 09:27:47 AM
the guy after the guy after The Guy**

Where's Kyle Guy in this equation?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 05, 2019, 10:57:58 AM
Hopkins isn't going anywhere. He will be at U Dub for years.

"years," as in the remaining number of years Boeheim stays at Syracuse.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Not A Serious Person on April 05, 2019, 11:10:39 AM

The Tech Lunch Pail
@techlunchpaild
Here's a final update on all of this. As I've been informed last night, the flight connected to VT was not being used in the coaching search. Simply coincidental timing and business being done. Timing of flights from Milwaukee area brought intrigue but nothing to it. Carry on


One of you much better at trolling, please go troll this turd.

Amazing that one random idiot on twitter completely makes up something out of whole cloth (Gary is close enough to Milwaukee = Wojo is coming to VT!!!)  and, if you repeat the lie long enough, the circle jerk starts as it gets repeated and embellished by others that make up additional stuff (“my wife’s sister’s brother’s neighbor’s friend that works with the guy down the street saw Wojo on campus today!!!!!”).

It actually results in Wojo having to deny all of this.

Remind me again why social media is a good thing?

Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 05, 2019, 11:19:15 AM
Where's Kyle Guy in this equation?

Setting up illicit wedding registries.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 05, 2019, 11:43:27 AM
Amazing that one random idiot on twitter completely makes up something out of whole cloth (Gary is close enough to Milwaukee = Wojo is coming to VT!!!)  and, if you repeat the lie long enough, the circle jerk starts as it gets repeated and embellished by others that make up additional stuff (“my wife’s sister’s brother’s neighbor’s friend that works with the guy down the street saw Wojo on campus today!!!!!”).

It actually results in Wojo having to deny all of this.

Remind me again why social media fan boards are a good thing?


fixed for accuracy
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: WarriorDad on April 05, 2019, 11:52:02 AM
Anthony Harris of Va Tech has reopened his recruiting. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: pbiflyer on April 05, 2019, 11:55:05 AM
Anthony Harris of Va Tech has reopened his recruiting.

Ironic that they are complaining that he will probably follow Buzz to A&M.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Eldon on April 05, 2019, 11:59:49 AM
Amazing that one random idiot on twitter completely makes up something out of whole cloth (Gary is close enough to Milwaukee = Wojo is coming to VT!!!)  and, if you repeat the lie long enough, the circle jerk starts as it gets repeated and embellished by others that make up additional stuff (“my wife’s sister’s brother’s neighbor’s friend that works with the guy down the street saw Wojo on campus today!!!!!”).

It actually results in Wojo having to deny all of this.

Remind me again why social media is a good thing?

+1

I almost wonder if the "random idiot" is actually VTech psychology professor running an experiment of some kind.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: pbiflyer on April 05, 2019, 12:40:13 PM
+1

I almost wonder if the "random idiot" is actually VTech psychology professor running an experiment of some kind.

I think it is just a guy best described by the band Styx:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcKBmdfpWs
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on April 05, 2019, 01:37:04 PM
"years," as in the remaining number of years Boeheim stays at Syracuse.

One of my colleagues is a major benefactor of U Dub MBB. He actually has had dinner at Mike and Tricia's home in Madison Park. 

He hated Romar but loves Hopkins. He is pretty certain Hopkins will not go to Syracuse.

Is that 100% certain. Likely not. But it is first person intel as opposed to the wild ass guess of some chucklehead on Scoop.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/the-huskies-have-their-coach-of-the-future-in-mike-hopkins-but-theyre-just-getting-started/
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 05, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
Where's Kyle Guy in this equation?


And Guy Rodgers? Where is Guy Rodgers?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jon on April 05, 2019, 01:50:36 PM

And Guy Rodgers? Where is Guy Rodgers?

Underhanded free throws
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: avid1010 on April 05, 2019, 02:43:01 PM
One of my colleagues is a major benefactor of U Dub MBB. He actually has had dinner at Mike and Tricia's home in Madison Park. 

He hated Romar but loves Hopkins. He is pretty certain Hopkins will not go to Syracuse.

Is that 100% certain. Likely not. But it is first person intel as opposed to the wild ass guess of some chucklehead on Scoop.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/the-huskies-have-their-coach-of-the-future-in-mike-hopkins-but-theyre-just-getting-started/
Smart way to handle it with donors...TC used to openly discuss leaving...That was never a good business decision in my opinion...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 05, 2019, 03:12:02 PM
One of my colleagues is a major benefactor of U Dub MBB. He actually has had dinner at Mike and Tricia's home in Madison Park. 

He hated Romar but loves Hopkins. He is pretty certain Hopkins will not go to Syracuse.

Is that 100% certain. Likely not. But it is first person intel as opposed to the wild ass guess of some chucklehead on Scoop.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/the-huskies-have-their-coach-of-the-future-in-mike-hopkins-but-theyre-just-getting-started/

And one of my good friends worked in athletics at Syracuse. As he tells it,  Jimmy B told Hopkins to go make some money and get some experience so he'd be ready to take over the orange once Jimmy retires. He believes Hopkins will come home when the time comes.

Also not 100% but probably as good as any first hand Intel shared with the wild asses here on scoop.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Jables1604 on April 05, 2019, 06:19:00 PM
A buddy sent me this a while ago...
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: brewcity77 on April 05, 2019, 06:27:34 PM
Good lord they're doing anything they can to convince themselves Wojo is coming. That level of obsession...did we win a national championship I forgot about in the past 5 years?
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 05, 2019, 06:40:26 PM
  Geez, I hope his layover is long enough to get a samich at chick-fil-a or sumpin
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warriors4ever on April 05, 2019, 06:43:43 PM
You know I have no idea whether Wojo is staying or going, whether to Virginia Tech or anywhere else, but I will say that this entire thread and its links to the Virginia Tech tweets and posts has  been hugely entertaining.
Were we this bad when Buzz left? Will we be this bad if we are looking for a new coach (which I hope we aren’t? I really hope not.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 05, 2019, 07:28:43 PM
The Va Tech fans have been quite entertaining. They probably also think they’d have gotten Buzz even if he hadn’t been “encouraged” to seek other employment. ;D
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: fjm on April 05, 2019, 08:00:17 PM
Best tweets ever. I’ll be sure to hit him up around 3am tonight when I’m half in the bag to ask him where the flight tracker is
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: 79Warrior on April 05, 2019, 11:20:50 PM
You know I have no idea whether Wojo is staying or going, whether to Virginia Tech or anywhere else, but I will say that this entire thread and its links to the Virginia Tech tweets and posts has  been hugely entertaining.
Were we this bad when Buzz left? Will we be this bad if we are looking for a new coach (which I hope we aren’t? I really hope not.

Wojo is not leaving. Amazing you guys still go to visit their site.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: onepost on April 05, 2019, 11:51:51 PM
I spent the better part of Friday morning getting into it on Twitter with many Va Tech fans and Lunch Pail himself.
Should have been the bigger man but I just couldn't help giving them all a massive reality check.
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Warriors4ever on April 05, 2019, 11:58:17 PM
I'm just fascinated by the intensity.  As I don't do twitter, I'm just reading what people post here anyway. 
Title: Re: Virginia Tech Fans
Post by: Billy Hoyle on April 06, 2019, 12:24:20 AM
And one of my good friends worked in athletics at Syracuse. As he tells it,  Jimmy B told Hopkins to go make some money and get some experience so he'd be ready to take over the orange once Jimmy retires. He believes Hopkins will come home when the time comes.

Also not 100% but probably as good as any first hand Intel shared with the wild asses here on scoop.

Same here: one time hoops athletic trainer still close to people there and goes back frequently. Hopkins stayed around until Boeheim decided to extend to coach Buddy.