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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: denverMU on March 23, 2019, 08:28:01 PM
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Since you guys know so much about college basketball, tell me if you would fire the coach with this record. Since you want to fire Coach Wojo with this record...13-19, 20-13, 19-13, 21-14, 24-10 with a NIT Quarter final and and 2 NCAA appearances. Very similar.
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Well wins versus appearances a little different. There is always more to look into. Talent of this team shows he’s a good recruiter but they should’ve performed much better given the team they had.
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Well wins versus appearances a little different.
Exactly. Two crap the bed appearances where we weren’t competitive beyond the first half.
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Since you guys know so much about college basketball, tell me if you would fire the coach with this record. Since you want to fire Coach Wojo with this record...13-19, 20-13, 19-13, 21-14, 24-10 with a NIT Quarter final and and 2 NCAA appearances. Very similar.
Hi, I'm mathematics. You are stupid.
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Sorry, I tried to fix but couldn’t.. both coaches had 2 appearances and no wins
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Hi, I'm mathematics. You are stupid.
Very thoughtful and intelligent response....just what to expect from Scoop
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Is this a serious thread? Meant to support Wojo?
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Very thoughtful and intelligent response....just what to expect from Scoop
You pick the guy you would vote for:
It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates.
Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two Mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.
Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.
Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, then when i remember and enough of you have voted, i'll post the real identities of the candidates
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Is this a serious thread? Meant to support Wojo?
This is what the few Wojo supporters left are reduced to.
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You pick the guy you would vote for:
It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates.
Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two Mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.
Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.
Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, then when i remember and enough of you have voted, i'll post the real identities of the candidates
I'm glad the internet reminds me I'm not actually all that dumb.
Then again, there's also the reminder that these people get to vote, which terrifies me. You probably even have a job involving more than flipping burgers. Big time yikes. Maybe it's more of a wash when this kind of stuff comes up.
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Yeah there’s no defense of Thursday’s game for Wojo. Good for him he will have a team that could totally redeem him despite his coaching.
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Very thoughtful and intelligent response....just what to expect from Scoop
what the hell are you trying to prove. either this makes no sense or i am drunk. maybe both
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I'm glad the internet reminds me I'm not actually all that dumb.
Then again, there's also the reminder that these people get to vote, which terrifies me. You probably even have a job involving more than flipping burgers. Big time yikes. Maybe it's more of a wash when this kind of stuff comes up.
Ah yes, you're right. His logic was sound, but mine is wrong.
Got it.
mocking, but no rebuttal, but you're the one who is embarrassed.
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DenverMU
Is this thread a joke?
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Trying to show Coach K had a rough start to his career too.
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I did not vote.
I do not like the idea of saying he should be fired, if he does not win an NCAA tournament game next year. I think, if that is the MU powers to be are thinking they should fire him now. My reasoning is we have no significant recruits to lose, if you fire him now. How do you fire him after next season, if he signs a great class this fall?
I am not saying we should fire him, but I do not think you should ever get to were you tell a coach do this next year or you are gone. That hurts recruiting.
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I did not vote.
I do not like the idea of saying he should be fired, if he does not win an NCAA tournament game next year. I think, if that is the MU powers to be are thinking they should fire him now. My reasoning is we have no significant recruits to lose, if you fire him now. How do you fire him after next season, if he signs a great class this fall?
I am not saying we should fire him, but I do not think you should ever get to were you tell a coach do this next year or you are gone. That hurts recruiting.
Because recruiting is only half the game in college hoops. Coaches have to coach.. otherwise, they remain assistants for twelve years...
Oops, I've said too much.
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My point is, I’m tired of all these people, who I’m pretty sure know less about college basketball than Coach Wojo has forgotten. At least 5 of which would have fired Coach K.
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We all know it's Coach K.
First, I wouldn't count his time at a Service Academy because they are unique.
As for Duke, he was in the Dance Years 4-5 before playing in the Title Game in Year 6.
Are you suggesting Wojo will have Marquette playing on the Last Night?
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My point is, I’m tired of all these people, who I’m pretty sure know less about college basketball than Coach Wojo has forgotten. At least 5 of which would have fired Coach K.
I get where you're coming from. But here is the rub. What was Duke basketball before Coach K? It literally did not exist on the map.
Go check wikipedia if you need some schooling on that.
Marquette though. We existed before Wojo. We were kings before Coach K coached a minute at Duke.
THAT is the issue.
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DenverMU
In all seriousness, can you explain what you are talking about? I am at a loss.
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I love that the title is so poorly written that it doesn't even make sense.
WoJo Is THe bESt COAch evEr!!! wE Are SoOo lUCky To hAVe HiM!!
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I love that the title is so poorly written that it doesn't even make sense.
WoJo Is THe bESt COAch evEr!!! wE Are SoOo lUCky To hAVe HiM!!
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/a9e748c8abfd91685d21e2a2c5fba7b2/tenor.gif?itemid=8617355)
Oh, we at spongebob memes now
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I get where you're coming from. But here is the rub. What was Duke basketball before Coach K? It literally did not exist on the map.
Go check wikipedia if you need some schooling on that.
Marquette though. We existed before Wojo. We were kings before Coach K coached a minute at Duke.
THAT is the issue.
Key word... “were”. In 1977.....42 years ago.
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Key word... “were”. In 1977.....42 years ago.
You want to change our identity?
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I get where you're coming from. But here is the rub. What was Duke basketball before Coach K? It literally did not exist on the map.
Go check wikipedia if you need some schooling on that.
Marquette though. We existed before Wojo. We were kings before Coach K coached a minute at Du
THAT is the issue.
Maybe you should take your own advice....I did
Duke 1977-78 NCAA Finalist
Duke 1978-79 NCAA round of 32
Duke 1979-80 NCAA Elite 8
Literally not on the map?
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I get where you're coming from. But here is the rub. What was Duke basketball before Coach K? It literally did not exist on the map.
Go check wikipedia if you need some schooling on that.
Marquette though. We existed before Wojo. We were kings before Coach K coached a minute at Duke.
THAT is the issue.
? He took over an Elite 8 team that was in the national championship game just three years prior. You're right, I doubt any college basketball fan knew Duke existed when he took over.
PS. Wojo is testing but has not yet exhausted by patience.
I see denverMU beat be to it.
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Ah yes, you're right. His logic was sound, but mine is wrong.
Got it.
mocking, but no rebuttal, but you're the one who is embarrassed.
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I think we agree on Wojo. But the "choose the president" game is too much.
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I think we agree on Wojo. But the "choose the president" game is too much.
That's the point.
Yeesh.
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Maybe you should take your own advice....I did
Duke 1977-78 NCAA Finalist
Duke 1978-79 NCAA round of 32
Duke 1979-80 NCAA Elite 8
Literally not on the map?
Exactly. It wasn't what it is now, but it was still one of the better programs in the country.
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Exactly. It wasn't what it is now, but it was still one of the better programs in the country.
So, logically, are you prepared to say that Wojo is on the same career trajectory as Coach K was at Duke in the 1980s?
I'll let you think on how absurd the original premise of this entire thread is before answering.
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So, logically, are you prepared to say that Wojo is on the same career trajectory as Coach K was at Duke in the 1980s?
I'll let you think on how absurd the original premise of this entire thread is before answering.
That's not what I said at all. It's absurd to assert I did.
But saying Duke literally did not exist on the map is the height of ignorance. You made a ridiculous statement & were justly called on it. I'm not doubling down with an equally ridiculous statement.
Right now I don't know where I am with Wojo. Could he be the next K or Wright? I suppose, I mean anything's possible. Is there strong enough evidence to suggest he is? I don't believe so. I thought this year would be the decisive "is he or isn't he" year. We got 3 months of "he is" followed by a month of "he definitely isn't." At this point, I don't feel like I know any more than I did a year ago, which is rather frustrating.
I'm sure he'll be here next year, so I'll continue to tentatively support him because I support the program, but after the last month I feel he's more in a "prove the doubters wrong" than "prove the supporters right" situation.
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Exactly. It wasn't what it is now, but it was still one of the better programs in the country.
They had a bump in performance under Bill Foster who had inherited a train wreck. We used to play Duke back then - those teams had Gminski, Spanarkel, Gene Banks.
One year they were #2 and we were struggling under Hank. We went to Cameron and beat them squarely. Al was calling the game and as the horn sounded Hank ran over to Al at the broadcast table and they did a high five.
It's funny but there was another Bill Foster coaching DI at the same time. That Bill Foster brought Clemson and Tree Rollins into the Arena. I think Marquardt was out from the car crash so we had Schlundt playing the 5. They beat us, barely, and The Tree went on to take Clemson to a Final Four.
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“pick the guy you would vote for:
It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates.
Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two Mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.
Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.
Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, then when i remember and enough of you have voted, i'll post the real identities of the candidates”
A is FDR
B is Churchill
C is Hitler
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Crash
Are you sure that W against Duke was at Cameron? Hank and the boys upset Duke in Madison for a big, big victory for Hank. I don’t know remember the win at Cameron, but I am an old man and getting forgetful.
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You pick the guy you would vote for:
It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts. Here are the facts about the three leading candidates.
Candidate A - Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists. He's had two Mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.
Candidate B - He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.
Candidate C - He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.
Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first, then when i remember and enough of you have voted, i'll post the real identities of the candidates
thought politics was banned here.
Anybody that slams down 8 to 10 martinis a day should belong in Beefeaters Hall of Fame
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I get where you're coming from. But here is the rub. What was Duke basketball before Coach K? It literally did not exist on the map.
Go check wikipedia if you need some schooling on that.
Marquette though. We existed before Wojo. We were kings before Coach K coached a minute at Duke.
THAT is the issue.
*stands and applauds* This is the grand slam of all posts right here. This poll is ridiculous...sure if you are at a program like Wofford or something, those records would be fantastic..and no way would you fire that Coach. This is Marquette, the expectations SHOULD be so much higher.
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what the hell are you trying to prove. either this makes no sense or i am drunk. maybe both
Maybe you are the guy that plows through 8-10 martinis a day.
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Crash
Are you sure that W against Duke was at Cameron? Hank and the boys upset Duke in Madison for a big, big victory for Hank. I don’t know remember the win at Cameron, but I am an old man and getting forgetful.
Don’t know where you’re getting one of Hank’s team beating Duke in Madison. That would had to have been NCAA’s. Never happened.
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Don’t know where you’re getting one of Hank’s team beating Duke in Madison. That would had to have been NCAA’s. Never happened.
I assure you it happened, as I was there.
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I assure you it happened, as I was there.
Yeah, it did. Feb 10, 1980. I stand corrected. WTH did they agree to play regular season game in Madison and not the Arena?!?
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Everyone wanted Mike Deane fired and everyone knew he could coach. The problem is that he couldn’t recruit.
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? He took over an Elite 8 team that was in the national championship game just three years prior. You're right, I doubt any college basketball fan knew Duke existed when he took over.
Uh. I did. Duke was considered a decent program. A step behind UNC and NC State in the ACC, but definitely a good program.
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Of course it happened, I was there. Duke wanted a neutral location and Madison was the choice. Far amount of excitement after the win and great time had by all.
Hey Hutch, you sure seemed pretty sure of yourself in your reply. Stick with me, I know my history.
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*stands and applauds* This is the grand slam of all posts right here. This poll is ridiculous...sure if you are at a program like Wofford or something, those records would be fantastic..and no way would you fire that Coach. This is Marquette, the expectations SHOULD be so much higher.
Stand and applaud.....for fake news...the reason we are where we are.
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I get where you're coming from. But here is the rub. What was Duke basketball before Coach K? It literally did not exist on the map.
I am pretty sure Duke had more all time wins than MU did the day Coach K was hired.
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You want to change our identity?
That was a long time ago. Embrace it, but Jimmy Carter was President to put it in perspective.
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I get where you're coming from. But here is the rub. What was Duke basketball before Coach K? It literally did not exist on the map.
You say some stuff too often without facts. Much like your NIT quips last year. Duke was a very good program, and very much existed on the map.
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This thread not only doesn’t prove anything but it doesn’t even have a valid point. And you have the nerve to sarcastically call others geniuses? That’s funny.
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*stands and applauds* This is the grand slam of all posts right here. This poll is ridiculous...sure if you are at a program like Wofford or something, those records would be fantastic..and no way would you fire that Coach. This is Marquette, the expectations SHOULD be so much higher.
Denver, your poll is wrong....more on that later.
Guru....And since the program was Duke and they were patient...oh that’s right, it was only Duke....they are like Wofford and should have fired him. The rest is history because they acted like grown ups.
Denver is wrong, but I understand why. In 1984 Coach K made it to the round of 32, but because of a bye. Only 48 teams made it then. They were the three seed and lost their first game to Washington. The next year they expanded to 64 teams, Duke again a 3 seed. Won the first game and lost to an 11 seed in Boston College in the second round.
Duke only won ONE NCAA game in Coach K’s first five years despite twice being a 3 seed.
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Crash
Are you sure that W against Duke was at Cameron? Hank and the boys upset Duke in Madison for a big, big victory for Hank. I don’t know remember the win at Cameron, but I am an old man and getting forgetful.
Mother Goose
You are absolutely correct! We played in Madison because the Arena was booked with something called the Sports, Travel, and Boat Show.
I had tix but socialized a bit too hard the Friday night before and missed the caravan we had to get to Madison.
I did watch the game on NBC, Al was doing color. As the clock was winding down Hank walked over to Al and they did a high five.
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I am pretty sure Duke had more all time wins than MU did the day Coach K was hired.
Hards doesn't know what he is talking about, which isn't the first time.
Duke had four Final Four appearances before K was even hired. That was top 5 all time in college history when he was hired. They were also national runner-up twice before he was hired. They were an excellent program. His comments were wrong.
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Of course it happened, I was there. Duke wanted a neutral location and Madison was the choice. Far amount of excitement after the win and great time had by all.
Hey Hutch, you sure seemed pretty sure of yourself in your reply. Stick with me, I know my history.
Brother Goose - I recall it was a scheduling conflict with something called the Sports, Travel, and Boat Show which had the Arena complex that whole week.
The only way to get the game done was to play in UW's barn. We did a reciprocal to Duke.
But i could be wrong. The night before we played Duke our crew went large. It was a big game, Duke was #2, and we were loitering in Madison to do some serious socializing deep behind enemy lines.
The morning of the game i was like Martin Sheen at the beginning of Apocalypse Now - naked, drunk, incoherent, bleeding from a thousand cuts... I never made it to Mad Town...
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